The Daily Zeitgeist - The President Is High On Steroids, Cobra Kai Is About Class 10.6.20

Episode Date: October 6, 2020

In episode 730, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian, Private Parts Unknown, and 420 Day Fiance co-host Sofiya Alexandra to discuss Trump's covid-19 shenanigans, The Secret: Dare to Dream, Cobra Kai,... and more!FOOTNOTES: Secret Service Agents Take Bullet From President The Trump White House as a Covid-19 Hot Spot Trump Didn’t Disclose First Positive Covid-19 Test While Awaiting a Second Test on Thursday 'Starting to feel good.' Trump releases new video from Walter Reed amid COVID battle Trump in Walter Reed Photo-Op Appears to Sign Blank Paper to Show He's Well and 'Relentless' WATCH: Burial - Archangel Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:59 Hear episodes of Rip Current early and completely ad-free and receive exclusive bonus content by subscribing to iHeart True plus only on apple podcasts hello the internet and welcome to season 154 episode 2 of your daily zeitgeist a production of iheart radio this is a podcast where we take a deep dive into america's shared consciousness and say officially off the top fuck the coke brothers fuck fox news fuck rush limbaugh fuck ben shapiro fuck tucker carlson fuck fondant and fuck covid 19 or or should i say covid 19 is fucked because the president has trojan horsed himself into your world covid19 oh you're done now your ass is grass
Starting point is 00:02:47 uh he he knows firsthand what it is yeah that's experience that's what you need you know you gave him a little you gave him a little bit and he's gonna take the whole thing down uh it's tuesday snoctober 6 2020 my name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. Dame Booty Drench. That is courtesy of Ryan Comer. And I am thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray! Yes, it's Miles Gray, a.k.a. Miles McDonald, saying, Yes, he's smoking trees. Watch him light that blood up.
Starting point is 00:03:29 Yes, he's smoking trees. Oh, oh, Miles is smoking trees. Okay, and that's just from my head now because, you know, slowly just throttling on and off the social media. You know, shout out to the a.k.a. submissions. I will check them probably tomorrow too uh but that one had to come straight from the dome you know like i said from the dome gotta keep these eyes off the the tweeters and shit miles what happened while i was gone man
Starting point is 00:03:58 what i don't know yeah i know we we recorded. Man, we'll get into it. I just think it's a night for a day. By the time this shit records, it's probably going to be like, we'll have to delete the episode and be like, all right, we're going to have to record something real quick just to keep up with it. Well, we are sure to be joined in our third seat by the hilarious and talented Sophia Alexandra.
Starting point is 00:04:29 Hey, I'm so happy to be here. Thank you for having me. Oh my God, we're so happy to have you. Great to see you. What is new with you? With you? Just, you know, having a happy Trump has COVID kind of couple days. I don't know. You guys feeling it? You guys feeling those Trump has COVID vibes? retribution uh for killing hundreds of thousands of people uh with his incompetence and dishonesty uh that there would be some karmic retribution people people definitely uh that felt like there
Starting point is 00:05:13 was a little extra hop and people step whether it be online or uh just out and about it just felt nice to smile this is the first weekend I didn't get drunk, you know, since forever. So that was really good. It felt real nice. Yeah. It was also like one of those headlines that didn't feel like it completely went against like the balance of the universe. Where like typically it's like evil man gets away with unseen levels of evil undeterred. And now it's like asshole who denies science got his.
Starting point is 00:05:48 And you're like, that makes sense. Right. Okay. The headline fucked around and found out. Yeah. Wow. I didn't,
Starting point is 00:05:55 usually he fucked around and didn't find out. So, uh, yeah, that there's, there is something there, but I don't know that it's all like, you never know what to feel good about this
Starting point is 00:06:05 i know that's why i feel like we have to savor this this moment because we don't know what's coming next yeah and it's just nice to feel happy for a second and even this could you know backfire it could yeah after oh in a million ways this could backfire that's why i'm saying let's just take a moment people are already using the timeline of him going in friday and out monday on this and three days later he is risen type shit yes you know what i mean like so that's you know i see another one of those terrible patriotic paintings coming like jesus trump elvis and they're standing on the body of covid it's it's trump lifting jesus up in his arms and he's like i've got it from here bro it's like the pieta you know where it's like uh mary holding jesus on her lap but instead it's
Starting point is 00:07:02 trump and he's holding jesus on his Trump and he's holding Jesus on his lap. And he's like, I got you, my man. I got through COVID. I'm sure I can bring you back. Yeah. There's somebody already painting that mural in Burbank right now, I think. For sure. I was thinking Trump bursting forth from Fauci's chest like a chestburster would be interesting. interesting i'm sure that uh that some of uh your fans the the zy gang can definitely hook that up that art seems within reach for us the scene outside of walter reed is apparently just all
Starting point is 00:07:37 sorts of next level like you know partying at the edge of the end of uh history type people just out there being like i would die for him and play an eye of the tiger of history type people just out there being like, I would die for him and playing eye of the tiger and running up and down the median while traffic whizzes by. There was this Washington Post article that was just like, man, he might be struggling, but his followers are just inspired. All right, Sophia, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell our listeners just a couple of things we're talking about. We're going to obviously talk about that
Starting point is 00:08:12 big story to which we have been alluding, the president testing positive for COVID, lying about it, then people around him getting it. Just a real microcosm of how his inability to deal with the facts around COVID-19 led to the national and global meltdown. We're seeing that in real time among his circle because everybody's getting it because he was like, don't tell anybody.
Starting point is 00:08:45 Oh, mom's going to be so mad. Don't tell anyone that I got it. We're going to talk about Pope Francis and not just because we're all praying for the president and invoking his name, but he came out with some spicy political takes. We're going to talk about some brain bleach, what we watched over last weekend
Starting point is 00:09:06 miles you you're down with the secret now it sounds like i've i've fully drenched my brain in bleach i don't know what's going on man but i'm i'm we'll see we'll see if the secret works by the end of this week um i made it through the first two seasons of Cobra Kai, so I will talk about that. Sophia, did you watch either of those? No, I did not. Instead, I started re-watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer. Okay. Well, we can talk about that as well.
Starting point is 00:09:38 All of that. Plenty more. But first, Sophia, what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are? Okay, so I've been watching the British Bake Off because it's so soothing. And then I was telling Max that one of the guys on it is from Little Britain, which is a British sketch show. And then I was telling him that my other favorite British sketch show is that Mitchell and Webb look. And then i told him that it has one of the best sketches of all time named number wang and so then i googled number to show him yeah exactly show him the sketch it is basically an absurd take on what a game show is
Starting point is 00:10:18 and it is really fucking funny and i know that like i'm gonna get along with someone if i show them number wang and they're like this is it or they already know it so yeah it's the first sketch that I ever saw that like got stuck in my head like a really good like song like it was like I couldn't that's a number wang that's a number wang like I just every time somebody would say something like that's a number wang uh in my head uh it's a great sketch. Everybody should watch it. Yeah, you should watch it. It's fully rhythm-based and just absurd and amazing. And Olivia Colman's in it. Oh, I didn't even realize that.
Starting point is 00:10:52 Yeah, she's one of the sketch players on that Mitchell and Webb look, and she's amazing. And one of my favorite other bits on that sketch is when they introduce themselves, or he introduces the the panelists and he goes uh this is uh so-and-so from somerset and this is so-and-so i'm not from some or fuck i fucked it up but they're always from the same place but he says it like they're from different places or uh yeah it's just great and then when they lose they get like a box on their head it's fucking dope i'm not gonna tell it i'm going to tell it. I'm ruining it. Don't spoil it.
Starting point is 00:11:25 I'm ruining it. What is something you think is overrated? Not celebrating Trump getting COVID. Because I had this conversation with my mom yesterday and she's like, yeah, you know what? I just wouldn't wish that on anyone, even my enemies. And I was like, that's what enemies are for are you fucking kidding me that's literally what they're for and then i was like that's funny but i'm like also like don't pretend you're better than like everyone like you've never wished death on anyone
Starting point is 00:11:58 really like you've never been in traffic okay you're fucking perfect i wish death on my favorite bakery yesterday and i personally have been keeping them in business alone the whole pandemic it was just because they closed an hour early and i didn't know and i was like fuck y'all you're dead to me now yeah i wish myself to die yeah i'm gonna go to your dumpster try and find uh some loose locks of hair from the owner so i can do a proper offering it really really burned this thing down you know so i'm just saying let's stop pretending we're better than this like you have wished for people to die before don't lie right personally like i i get the impulse to be like personally it's not good for you to like have that sort of you know uh anger towards someone but at this like this is you know we do the go back in time and would you go back in time and kill baby hitler thing i said the same thing to my mom i'm like how are you feel feeling sorry for
Starting point is 00:13:01 me he's a murderer and a rapist. I'm like, you would not feel bad about wishing death on Hitler? And she's like, well, Hitler is different. I'm like, not really, though. Yeah, and we know that he's going to try and use authoritarian methods to stay in power and mess with the election, at which point his followers,
Starting point is 00:13:21 who would die for him, as they've told us, are going to start know start harming people so uh this would be one one uh peaceful way out but uh you know it's not not my place to make that call you know so what stop my celebration yeah i i say everybody should should feel people gotta like yeah i don't it's it all it's i think it's just very different for however you look at it what what's been able to sustain you from like a uh karmic score level i think like on one end i feel like in a way like i was saying like, like, I was like, oh, this makes sense. Finally, a headline that makes sense, that doesn't defy everything that I thought was good about the universe and accepted science.
Starting point is 00:14:14 Then I got like 300 billion other things I'm worried about with the direction of the country that I'm also like, God, even even if the Trump nightmare ends, like there's just so fucking much like still left to undo so it's not like part of me is like i vacillate between like feeling that things are operating uh universally in some some uh right way and then the other time i'm just like still kind of like thinking of all the work that's to be done kind of getting overwhelmed so it's a lot you know you're feeling a lot at the same time. That's what this year is though. What is something you think is underrated Sophia?
Starting point is 00:14:53 You know I'm just here to beat the drum for Russian food. You know? Really fucking underrated. Russian food is delicious. And you should definitely look up how to make some of it because now is the time to make some delicious stuffed peppers you can make some delicious uh let's see i don't know what my
Starting point is 00:15:14 favorite dishes are but like they're always really simple and just they're uh my husband and i talk a lot about this on 90 day fiance that's all right now spreads and food just make you feel good and what a good time to learn about new food while you're locked inside so just check out russian food do uh olivier what's that what's your chicken salad yeah that olivier is our like um it's our potato salad and it's fucking dope we also have vinaigrette which is which is another salad um it's like a takeoff of olivia but it's with beets and it's not dressed with like mayo it's dressed with like um oil and salt and pepper but still great we've got a lot of colbasa that's really nice a lot of different kinds of cheeses
Starting point is 00:15:59 we have um really good tongue i know you guys are like gross but no it's amazing uh you guys want to check out all of our um different salted and um smoked fishes and this is all at a restaurant that you own right the way you're saying this you guys want to come out check out this you also do not miss out on the smoke i love it go to like a russian deli basically and load up on all of the things i just said and just try them and like even our desserts are dope we have this like amazing thing that's looks like um walnuts but they are made of cookie material and inside they're filled with like a condensed milk thing. Ereshki is what we call them. And they're so good.
Starting point is 00:16:49 I'm not even going to get into all the different cakes, which are all a billion layers, unlike so good. We put meringue in there. We put sour cherries in there. I mean, you name it, it's in there. Russian cake is the shit. So just here to beat the drum for Russian food. Yeah, yeah. I feel like there's a bunch of food that,
Starting point is 00:17:06 like Russian food, I feel like has a moment coming. Persian food, I feel like has a moment coming. Like we've barely scratched the surface. Like when you look back at, it was like the 90s, people were like, what about Chinese food? This stuff's amazing. What about that orange chicken? Italian food?
Starting point is 00:17:24 General so? Yeah, just the wave of people being like, Italian food's amazing, and then Italian food's bad for you. That was not that long ago. That was within my lifetime, and I'm old, but I'm not that old. Now people are like edgelords because they're like, have you had this kimchi stuff? Yeah. All right, cool? Glad to see things evolving.
Starting point is 00:17:50 Our pickled mushrooms are the shit. Sorry. America doesn't have a cuisine. We just cycle through discovering and adding. I think barbecue is one of our true things. Barbecue and soul food. I feel we're like the uh i think barbecue is like our one one of our true yeah that's right things barbecue
Starting point is 00:18:05 and soul food but like uh i feel like you know the the main thing that america is is the uh cheesecake factory menu where they just like add other people's cuisine and then load it up with cream cheese or mayonnaise um i was gonna say, Sophia, that no mayonnaise thing is not going to work out here, my friend, unfortunately. You need all mayo. No, I said, you know, there's two versions. Right, right, right. With a side of mayo, at least 50% mayo.
Starting point is 00:18:40 I like my chicken littles just drenched in mayo when I'm at the Cheesecake Factory. Speaking of little chicken, has anybody had the spicy McNuggets? Yep, I have. And speaking of American cuisine. How are they? They're actually spicy. I'm not going to lie.
Starting point is 00:18:55 Wow. But like the right level or? Like they're spicy. And I don't mean like they're actually so hot that I'm like, oh, shit. But they're spicy enough that I'm like, okay, they're not lying. Like at least as bright, like I could see an elderly white woman calling an ambulance for herself if she swallowed one of these.
Starting point is 00:19:13 So in that way, I'm like, okay. Are they black pepper spicy? Like what's the spice? It's got a little red tinge on them. So like when it looks like, you know, they're following the aesthetic of like hot chicken. Yeah, where it's like, you've seen fried chicken, but with red? Red.
Starting point is 00:19:28 Red is my favorite flavor. McDonald's McNuggets. The other thing I will have to say one more time, as somebody who's grown up eating nuggets, I don't know what the batter, it's a little more delicate when you take a bite. Oh. More delicate than when they're not red? Yeah, exactly. bite oh you'll see more delicate than when they're not red like yeah exactly when they're not red when they're brown then the like the chunks of cardboard just come off when you bite into it but this one it feels delicate like a lightly fried band-aid the chicken is the mcnugget quality like slurry
Starting point is 00:20:00 chicken right it's yeah yeah yeah oh they're not fucking around. No, not that crap real chicken. That crap real chicken they tried to give us with the chicken strips? No, but gotta be goo. Gotta be that PG, that pink goo. Yeah, yeah. The goo just hits different, you know? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:16 The goo. Mwah. There was a meme that was showing how the dinosaur evolved into the chicken, and then the chicken gave us the goo that created dinosaur nuggets. And be like, yo, full circle. And I was like, this is so sweet. Genius.
Starting point is 00:20:33 Finally, Sophia, what's a myth? What's something people think is true you know to be false? Okay, I don't know that this is false, but I looked it up because I was disturbed that this is a myth. So, okay, you guys know about coco the gorilla right and like how you know real smart gorilla 2000 words understanding like could could say or say quote unquote sign yeah a thousand and like she cried when robin williams died and shit like that you know best friends with mr rogers like this is like our most celebrated gorilla heroine that we have and
Starting point is 00:21:12 so okay turns out that she might not have known how to do any of that or a lot of that and was just like reinforced by like her handlers like for example when she would sign something that didn't make sense like she apparently signed nipple all the time which made me laugh a lot i was like maybe she was a comedian and they just didn't get her but she would just randomly i guess go nipple and then the um the the handlers would sign like you're being like that's silly. You're being silly. And then just like, try to get her, like, wait, I guess, for her to like sign something that they could assign meaning to sometimes. Right. So they were just saying like, the Coco thing, like, you might, we might have been idolizing the fucking wrong gorilla.
Starting point is 00:22:00 And like, maybe we should have been, we should, we should look to our other. Coco sucks. We should have found a better gorilla. We should look, look at our other gorilla heroes. Coco's trash, man. Dicks out for Harambe. Exactly. That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:22:15 Dicks out for Harambe is not a myth. And so, yeah, it just made me sad. That's interesting because like one of the earliest animal like there there was a thing where a horse new addition like uh not the band new addition but uh understood how to do mathematical addition uh i know a lot of people had bobby brown leap into their mind when i said that but no i mean it figured out addition but then it turned out it was all based on uh the owner of the horse being nearby and like going off of what the owners their responses were yeah yeah exactly that's how it was like doing this like stomp thing whenever they got to the right answers they
Starting point is 00:22:57 could like just sense because humans are more transparent than they think they are so yeah like sort of a more guess and check than like conversing with an animal that has consciousness that that is a bummer and then like i was like did she really cry for robin williams um because she apparently like signed signed like sad bad sad or whatever and then they were saying she might have just been going off of the fact that like all the handlers were really sad so she was like oh like we're all sad you know and yeah terrible like she didn't give a fuck about robin williams she was like he stole jokes i know this yeah i think coco also has some undiagnosed like hemorrhoids or something at the time as well that
Starting point is 00:23:44 they weren't quite connecting the dots on. So. Right. But yeah, I bet if she signed nipple at him, he would have known that was a great joke. I mean, it is like it's not dissimilar from children. learning words will you know they they figure out what words are bad and like what like heightens the tension in the room and then they'll repeat those words over and over and over again until uh you know to to get a rise so i mean that's probably where nipple's coming from i love that you just like dad analyzed the gorilla. Yeah. Well, no, I'm, yeah, I'm gorilla analyzing my kids.
Starting point is 00:24:29 Yeah. You show me, you show them those Coco tapes. Like, Oh dad, trying to get your kids into sports. You buy, look at Coco now. That's what you got to do. All right. Let's take a quick break and we'll be right back. All right, let's take a quick break and we'll be right back.
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Starting point is 00:29:00 Friday morning. Turns out he had tested positive with a quick return, quick turnaround COVID test. Rapid test. Rapid test on Thursday earlier. Still went to his... People on Wednesday were like, yo, he looks sick. Still went
Starting point is 00:29:18 to his thing on his meeting on Thursday where he didn't wear a mask, was spreading it around, and then was saying don't tell anybody come on let's keep it down keep it quiet oh boy I don't have shit you have it um don't don't tell them about my hair either it's not real don't tell them about that either or my money I don't actually I'm broke as fuck I'm broke as fuck I'm bald and I have COVID don't tell anybody any of those things. They don't know that about me yet.
Starting point is 00:29:48 There's one point where he reportedly said, am I going to go out like... Like his friend that had COVID in July. Yeah, his friend who died of COVID. But his doctors have been, I don't know, it's been a very interesting and exactly what you would expect from this administration, you know, show of banding together and just lying their fucking faces off, but not being good enough at it to get away with it. Yeah, that's the trouble with being a doctor, because like you kind of get into it to like be honest with people about their health so you can find out the best outcome for them rather than being like, no got into being a doctor so i could gaslight my patients with weird press conferences i do where i'm mad
Starting point is 00:30:28 evasive when people ask about the health of them um because we went from he's fine to then being like yo there's a is he on oxygen and then when the first press conference happened with dr conley he was like look y'all he's fine and do not ask if he's on oxygen because i'm going to be real evasive throughout this whole thing is not on oxygen right now so was he on oxygen uh he is not currently on oxygen i mean technically if he inhales that's oxygen so i don't know how you want me to answer that because it's all oxygen. That seems like a vague question, honestly. Does he breathe oxygen?
Starting point is 00:31:10 Yes. He is a human. Thank you for your time. Mark Meadows went off the record, pulled aside some reporters and like on camera was caught saying, hey, like, can we go off the record real quick? on camera was caught saying, Hey, like, can we go off the record real quick? And,
Starting point is 00:31:23 and in that moment, they say he told them that they were actually concerned, um, with the state of his health because his oxygen levels had gone down. They were like, Ooh, so they had to be very sure. Then the doctors came out and were like,
Starting point is 00:31:37 look, man, the reason we said all that stuff about the oxygen is we just wanted to keep the vibes up. Okay. Low. You know, patients need to keep uh
Starting point is 00:31:45 there's they're they're like you know positive thinking up so we thought if we lied to the whole country about it that probably really cheer him up i figured we could just you know what it works the fuck out of this covid thing if we do it all together they said they were trying to when asked why they lied they said they were trying to control the course of the virus which just basically means by lying at a press conference to get too down in the dumps. Viruses love lies. Be nice to him out of dying, which is always, you know, it's just circles and circles of gaslighting. Everybody knows viruses.
Starting point is 00:32:22 Trump gaslighting them back. It's a mess. Everyone knows viruses respond best to lying and flattery. And I think this is going to cure him. But I think that's basically a good metaphor for his entire presidency and all the people around him who enabled him. And then we're like the best thing to do would be just to like be be there to catch the really wild shit that he's going to do. Take the papers off his desk. But then he ultimately always has the last laugh.
Starting point is 00:32:53 He ultimately always, by destroying all truth around him that isn't the truth he wants to exist. He can kind of keep the momentum going. it's he can kind of keep keep the momentum going then the other thing that got everybody talking was then the doctors on time okay okay you got me he's on oxygen fine but only look a couple only real lightly though uh and then he's like okay and if i'm gonna be straight up we did have him on uh dexamethasone which is a store a steroid typically used for more severe cases of covid yeah that's what many people were like you that's not a good sign i'm not a medical doctor but i will play one on this podcast and say that's alarming um at the very least because then there are many people who were just like whether it was doctors and things like that saying like they're the side effects
Starting point is 00:33:43 aren't necessarily insignificant. Um, when you were on, when you're on this like program of medication and then on top of it, you know, like you have to factor in the context that this man is the fucking president. Uh, so there's it, we,
Starting point is 00:33:58 you know, it's like, they say things are good, but it's like, but also he's on this like really powerful medication that doesn't paint a good picture. So everyone has been rightfully pulled in like many directions and now it's to the point where the press is having trouble being like i don't even know if we can fucking trust
Starting point is 00:34:13 these doctors or anything out of the white house to be any indication of what the the health of the leader of the country is which the people have the right to know because this man is sitting on things like nuclear codes and you don't want him being on some dexamethasone trip uh because his tweets look real cool right now this is like when essentially like people didn't know forever whether castro was dead or not that is like so fucking alarming that we don't know what is going on with the health and well-being of the leader of this country it's so wild and like one of the things that i think people aren't talking about is uh how like the people that think he's doing well that is how steroids make you feel literally i took steroids when i was going through chemo and i would schedule
Starting point is 00:35:03 my stand-up shows on the day on those days specifically because I knew I could do everything. You know how you feel when the steroids. Yeah. I'm like, I'm going to rip this mic in half. She's like, you want me to see me chew this iron skillet? Yeah. People are like, that's not what comedy is. And I was like, I'll tell you what comedy is.
Starting point is 00:35:24 Yeah. Give me that skillet. You killed a guy. I remember tell you what comedy is. Yeah. Give me that skill. You killed a guy. I remember that. That was wild. Yeah. That was my closer for a long time. You broke him over your knee.
Starting point is 00:35:32 People don't, I think, know after the effect of the steroid wears off, you feel like shit. You feel as bad as you felt good if not more so and that like little like burst of strength and like craziness that you get where you might be like hey let's all get in this car and i have coven we'll drive around and i'll wave at the veterans that's exactly the kind of shit you do when you're on steroids right when i was on steroids for the first time i was like i don't know do i want to have eight kids? That probably sounds good. Right now? Like, yeah, fuck it.
Starting point is 00:36:07 Let's do it. I was like, in general, I should probably make that decision. I should probably tell my husband. We got to start working on it. You feel crazy. You feel strong. You feel like, oh, no one can tell me shit. It's honestly like a form of mania when you're on like righted up like that. But I mean, that is pretty standard
Starting point is 00:36:25 for this presidency. Right. Like yeah. Well there's so many waves of tweets and. But the thing is you don't know if it's the medication his own personality
Starting point is 00:36:35 because you could predict right even aside from the dexamethasone stuff because he was apparently pissed that Mark Meadows was out here saying like we're afraid for his life who the fuck said that he's like he did not like that so then the next step almost seems to make sense where he's like let me get my fucking secret service detail to get in a literally
Starting point is 00:36:57 hermetically sealed fucking vehicle this i'm not the the car is made to withstand a chemical attack so when them windows are up uh don't you don't you open up that window because there ain't no fucking antidote uh so all these people are like yo this is a fucking problem and you got me in this car because you need to go out there and wave at some gun humpers circle jerking outside the hospital so you can get your optics up like it's there were a lot of secret service agents off record being like this is not like this guy has never given a shit about us and uh still does not give a shit about us there has been president uh lbj once pissed on a secret service agent uh and then when asked why he was doing that said it was his
Starting point is 00:37:45 prerogative uh and that didn't come out until 10 years later because the secret service is typically like you know they'll do anything for the president because that's their job they will die for the president but in this case they're like yeah but he's just like needlessly fucking with us yeah he's needlessly just there's a difference you know like because so many on the right are like it's their job to die for the hive that's what they signed up for whatever he wants but it's one thing when they're there and their duty to protect the president from outside attack or aggressors or someone trying to an outside person trying to do the president harm versus the president basically coming out here saying like all right so here's the deal y'all you're gonna
Starting point is 00:38:29 get fucking sick because i say so like now they're being they're being put in a position by the president the president is now doing them harm he is already being it's just it's a complete uh like inversion of like the dynamic of who protects who or whatever and it's just it's chaotic the call cannot be coming from inside the house they're like that's not our job to protect the president from the president and also us from the president no that's not what we do right yeah it i mean i guess that like you know because i'm like what if he if he like put his hands on a Secret Service agent or something because he was just getting angry about some people like, I mean, that's their job, you know, is to be a punching bag when he's when he's just getting you when he's going through it is to help make him feel like a big guy. But it's yeah, it really it just you always kind of wonder when how much longer people could support him, right? Because now so many people are looking at their own situation where if you're a Secret Service agent, you're like, I might get COVID.
Starting point is 00:39:32 We're seeing, I might have lifelong complications because of it. I have to be quarantined for two weeks because of all this. It's I'm I'm curious when like enough people around him are starting to be like, yo, man, like we've we're at that point now where like we will just we're physically going to have problems by like, you know, staying on this ride for too long. It'll be like a fish out of water comedy where the Secret Service guy just like stomps out of the car and he like grabs one of the people from the side of the road who are like trump supporters and is like swaps out secret service now yeah you'll take a bullet for me now um yeah i i also feel like he has been exhibiting very uh high person behavior like he always does kind of but almost like more of a like everything is love type behavior i mean fucking steroids man he literally tweeted love and all caps exclamation point at one point over the weekend uh i feel like the let's go for a ride everybody let's get in the car we're going for a ride i don't give a fuck
Starting point is 00:40:38 about the risks get back to the white house and tell melania he loves her right like he's gonna do some wild shit people are not expecting and not wild in the way that he has been, but wild like, oh, thank you, Mr. President. Here's a dollar, Jimmy. Buy yourself a quarter of candy. I feel like that whole sequence leading up to him getting in that SUV outside of Walter Reed
Starting point is 00:41:04 was him in a robe with like tissue boxes on his feet and he's like come on let's go we'll get in the spruce goose let's get in and he's like sir and he's like he pulls a gun on the secret service he's like i said get in uh it really yeah it's very much like i mean the the the stream of consciousness tweeting is like it's just space force vote 401k vote religious liberty vote law and order vote it's uh like rizzoli and aisles vote franklin and bash vote burn notice vote okay i'm down but yeah there's a it's it's it's i don't know like that's where you realize like if he's also dealing like with that shakespearean moment where like he does feel like the walls are closing in and he's like trying what kind of bargaining he's doing in his own head what
Starting point is 00:41:57 it's just yeah but the tone is very different and yeah yeah i feel like it's the whole like it's like he's still vibing when he's tweeting that I think he's like in that love moment still he's like these people are with me they know what the fuck to do oh the molly's still hitting okay they're definitely letting the best the best news into
Starting point is 00:42:20 him and not the people who are like yeah this would actually be for the best if you just kind of went away um because he keeps feeling like i'll never forget it you guys you guys are the kindest the most beautiful people um yeah but you can just tell he like lacks the anger that usually animates him um right and he sort of comes off as listless in these videos uh where he's just kind of there's the one where he you know talks for four minutes about how well he's doing and how great it is and uh there's a moment where it seems like he's gonna throw up and then he like just swallows it back down
Starting point is 00:42:58 and there's the amazing photo op where uh he's just signing a blank white piece of paper. Just him with a blank white piece of paper, putting his signature in the middle of it, which might be how he does business. He might actually just be like, all right, now put a bill around that. I've done the signing. I've done the hard part. It's like the same way someone who's seen an EDM DJ do their job. You're like, I think they just go up there and they twist these knobs. Right.
Starting point is 00:43:26 So that's what I'm gonna do. And like his idea of being a perception is like, what do you do? You sit at a desk and you just sign papers and stuff. You're like, approved, not approved, next, great job. Would fuck, would not fuck. Yeah, fugly. Flagbush, don't like it. There are these two photos of him doing
Starting point is 00:43:41 that in separate rooms and like with separate backgrounds to imply he's so on the job. He's doing his job everywhere. And someone looked at the metadata and realized they were taken minutes apart. And so he's just walking from one room to the next feeling like, sign a blank piece of paper there. And over here, I'm going to be reading a blank piece of paper.
Starting point is 00:44:06 piece of paper there and over here i'm going to be reading a blank piece of paper and now let me get back to hitting them hitting that good ivy that decks that the well you know the other element of it too is right now we have uh kaylee mcananey the the press secretary positive uh kellyanne conway positive even kellyanne conway's daughter went on TikTok, like, my fucking mom gave me COVID, which is so wild. She fucking broke her mom having COVID before the media. Yeah, that's what Claudia Conway does. You know what I mean? So on top of that, all these surrogates now are scrambling
Starting point is 00:44:41 because the main people who would usually be on TV are sick, like Chris Christie. There's all so many senators from all because of that Amy Coney Barrett Rose guard, what they call the Rose Garden Massacre now, which is like apparently the top GOP super spreader event of the year. really, really trying to say things that maybe the president will see and then feel good about. Because I just want to play this clip of, you know, someone going on Fox and trying to say how actually the president getting COVID, like it's, that's like a wild advantage for him as a leader. So is that something we should expect with a best case scenario? The president leaves the hospital today, gets back out on the campaign trail. Will we see changed messaging when it comes to the coronavirus and will it move more
Starting point is 00:45:30 to a forefront of the president's messagings and key issues? Well, firsthand experience is always going to change how someone relates to something that's been happening. The president has coronavirus right now. He is battling it head on as toughly as only President Trump can. And listen, that of course, that's going to change the way that he the way that he he speaks of it, because it'll be a firsthand experience. But, you know, that experience, that experience of not only coronavirus, but being president of the United States. That's why you just see a different tone overall from him. But it's been law and order and it's been the economy. Does this become a key issue for your campaign? And he's talked about coronavirus as well. He's talked about it all. And listen, he has experience as commander in chief. He has experience as a businessman. He has experience now fighting the coronavirus as an
Starting point is 00:46:22 individual. Those firsthand experiences,e biden he doesn't have those he doesn't wow so joe biden doesn't he doesn't know the virus he doesn't know the virus he hasn't lived through it he hasn't fought it off um yeah i mean you can't fight that logic that is uh that's airtight you know when you find those pictures of Donald Trump in blackface, don't tell him he doesn't know about what it's like to be black in America. Okay. And that's why we stand with like, what is, what is this logic about? And actually, that's the reason I got breast cancer is I was like, I don't really understand
Starting point is 00:47:00 cancer. You know, it really helped. You're going to go in. I should probably get it. I should probably get it. And then yeah i should probably get it i should probably get it and then then i'll get it because before that i was making fun of people who had cancer all the time i was like fuck you you losers and then i got it and i was like you know what i'm gonna rethink that i'm gonna rethink that i think the most dangerous thing possible out of this is that somehow he
Starting point is 00:47:21 gains some shred of empathy that comes across to people yeah and that would act like you know i joke i'm like he's gonna be more racist and more violent but imagine like he really gets scrooged out of this thing and he's like oh fuck i've been living wild i gotta do something right those ghosts freaked me out i'm sorry herman i'm sorry herman and then he's like we gotta do right by these people he's like we gotta we gotta knock this thing out so i don't know it's everything is so unsettled this idea that he could be back in the white house i mean as we record this by the end of day monday seems like a stretch based on what they're saying about his other conditions but also seeing that this guy
Starting point is 00:48:05 just got a bunch of people to get into an airtight vehicle with him i have a feeling even if they said mr president you really need to stay like now fuck out of here i need to be in the white house to take some photos at the in the oval office right and be really sick there he's the most powerful person in the world he is now actively shedding like virus wherever he goes and he doesn't believe in science so that that is kind of a recipe for disaster for anyone who's uh who's around him on a regular basis um yeah but we'll we'll see where we end up it's what what it's as the 2020 tagline says it. It's what it's because he's who he's. That's right. All right. Let's take a quick break and we'll be right back with some brain bleach.
Starting point is 00:49:00 When you think of Mexican culture, you think of avocado, mariachi, delicious cuisine, and of course, lucha libre. It doesn't get more Mexican than this. Lucha libre is known globally because it is much more than just a sport and much more than just entertainment. Lucha libre is a type of storytelling. It's a dance. It's tradition. It's tradition. It's culture. This is Lucha Libre Behind the Mask, a 12-episode podcast in both English and Spanish about the history and cultural richness of Lucha Libre.
Starting point is 00:49:30 And I'm your host, Santos Escobar, the emperor of Lucha Libre and a WWE superstar. Santos! Santos! Join me as we learn more about the history behind this spectacular sport from its inception in the United States to how it became a global symbol of Mexican culture. We'll learn more about some of the most iconic heroes in the ring. This is Lucha Libre Behind the Mask. Listen to Lucha Libre Behind the Mask as part of my Cultura podcast network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you stream podcasts.
Starting point is 00:50:03 I'm Dr. Laurie Santos, host of the Happiness Lab podcast. As the U.S. elections approach, it can feel like we're angrier and more divided than ever. But in a new, hopeful season of my podcast, I'll share what the science really shows, that we're surprisingly more united than most people think. We all know something is wrong in our culture, in our politics, and that we need to do better and that we can do better. With the help of Stanford psychologist Jamil Zaki. It's really tragic. If cynicism were a pill, it'd be a poison. We'll see that our fellow humans, even those we disagree with, are more generous than we assume. My assumption, my feeling,
Starting point is 00:50:42 my hunch is that a lot of us are actually looking for a way to disagree and still be in relationships with each other. All that on the Happiness Lab. Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts. MTV's official challenge podcast is back for another season. That's right. The challenge is about to embark on its monumental 40th season, y'all. And we are coming along for the ride. Woo-hoo.
Starting point is 00:51:15 That would be me, Devin Simone. And then there's me, Davon Rogers. And we're here to take you behind the scenes of, drumroll please. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. The Challenge 40, Battle of the Eras. Yes. Each week, cast members will be joining us to spill all of the tea on the relentless challenges, heartbreaking eliminations, and of course, all the juicy drama.
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Starting point is 00:52:10 You know, New Yorkers have a reputation of being very tough, but it's not. It's not that way at all. They're very accepting. Jeff Goldblum. Are you saying secret fries? Secret fries. What? That's what you're saying? Yeah. And Kristen Wiig.
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Starting point is 00:52:51 Listen to Table for Two with Bruce Bozzi on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. And Miles, you watched the secret i watched cobra kai uh the secret i i gotta know what what is the secret just tell me the first of all shout out to zeitgang for helping me locate this film because i did not want to locate it. And then I cast my gaze upon this nightmare. So I don't I don't know where to start. First off, hold on.
Starting point is 00:53:36 Is this movie like new or old? It's new. It's starring Katie Holmes. Oh, OK. It's got to be new movies dude it's got yeah exactly you know katie holmes is only in new stuff uh but this film was with katie holmes josh lucas and it was like sort of the main dude and then like jerry o'connell plays like this dude who's like longing for her the long story short is she's playing a mother a widow who has three kids and they're in
Starting point is 00:54:07 some hard times you know nothing's josh lucas he's like one of those dudes where i could tell you you need to see his face and then you'd be like oh yeah josh lucas yeah he's like because i know handsome dude who was in a bunch of movie forgettable movies in the so you guys don't know either that's all I was checking no but it would be one of those things when you when you see him you're like oh this dude but you're like I didn't know his name was Josh Lucas because he's like a stock photo of an actor
Starting point is 00:54:36 did you see Ford v Ferrari did you see Sweet Home Alabama no and no and I do not recognize him he looks like a poor man's Kevin Costner. If you heard his voice, his voice kind of puts it all together. He's a Costner
Starting point is 00:54:51 Ryan, what's his name? Who's the real hunky dude? He's not hunky though. That's not important. No, Josh Lucas. He's real Ryan Jack O'Brien. No, he's a blend of... I see a lot of Costner.
Starting point is 00:55:08 I see a lot of Gosling. I think he's like a blend of Costner, Gosling. Costner. He's a Costner. Oh, yeah. Whoa. Yeah. Gosner.
Starting point is 00:55:17 That's Gosner. Gosner, Gosling. Wrapped up in a Gosner blanket. Yes. So this... So anyway, she's like... None of the things are going right for this family like they're stressed the kids like don't like their house the one one of the daughters is like jealous
Starting point is 00:55:31 that her classmates sweet 16 is gonna have a fucking have food trucks this other little girl wants a relatable shit yeah you know what i mean uh and and then one day uh in the midst of the chaos katie holmes like that like rear ends this guy in a truck and it's josh lucas and he's like so the whole thing is based around him being this kind of like mysterious guy and his whole like outlook is super positive she's like when she rear ends him his truck's fine but hers is like the bumper is off and she's like damn it ah i can't afford the bubble one he's like hey it's all. And luckily my car is not damaged. So let me help you out. And he like fixes her truck
Starting point is 00:56:06 and like they're hanging out at their house. And she's like, this man is beginning to learn a little bit more about her like life situation. And like, first, like, they're like, we want to have dinner. And she's like, we want pizza. And Katie Holmes is like, we can't afford pizza. She's like, that's right.
Starting point is 00:56:22 Cause we're poor. And like the Katie Holmes, like leaves the scene for a second. And then this Josh Lucas guy's like, look can't afford pizza. She's like, that's right, because we're poor. And Katie Holmes leaves the scene for a second, and then this Josh Lucas guy's like, look, just because you have no pizza doesn't mean you can't have it. If you just think a lot about pizza, you'll be able to get it. And it has this very barbarically distilled down version of the law of attraction, essentially. Like the most passive form, which is like,
Starting point is 00:56:43 just think about pizza, and it's and then fucking lit like clockwork what the heck's who's at the door oh hey i've got a pizza that that character literally described two pages ago word for word i have this exact order here for this family it's already been paid for don't even worry about it and they're like oh cool it came from mom's katie holmes boyfriend jerry o'connell and like slowly there's he's like all these moments where they're like oh my god it's like happening so it's magic wait jerry o'connell has money and he's not helping katie holmes but josh lucas is it's v weird like they're dating but like she's kind of like doesn't she's not really feeling jerry o'connell because he's like a herb anyway like you could tell he's like he's like one of his character pulls up in like a down vest and you're like all right get
Starting point is 00:57:28 the fuck out of here like you already jerry o'connell has huge herb vibes i totally get what you mean oh yeah yeah he's a herbivore and the whole thing with uh it's yes so he's like a rich guy but then lucas is an alpha i get it bro but all he keeps saying is all this like lame shit he's like no don't worry about it she's like look josh lucas like i can't just keep thinking like there's a hole in my roof i can't just think of a new roof to come by i have these bills it's not like a check's just gonna show up for the exact amount i need blah blah and then throughout the film you realize get the roof fixed a fucking check arrives for the exact thing but then there's like there's like a whole fucking twist which is that katie holmes husband died in a plane crash and josh lucas was with him on that
Starting point is 00:58:12 flight and he was the only person who survived that crash but also like took a patent that katie holmes dead husband had invented and improved it and like got and like started becoming wealthy and the reason he even found katie holmes was to tell her that he had put the patent in her name and she can expect checks to come in but because he was like kind of vibing with her he didn't tell her so it became like that typical rom-com thing where one character has been deceiving the other and then when it matters they're like you deceived me this whole time i don't understand and they're like but it was for a good reason i was on the plane that your husband died in and i stole his patent and then i it's
Starting point is 00:58:49 like it gets so convoluted and then seems like there actually is no good reason for the lie seems like she would have been really happy to hear all of that from just right at the beginning just straight up yeah without him trying to be like like quirky hippie guy or like saved her a lot of worrying and then he didn't even have to lie about the secret but the secret is not like the i have not read the secret i just live it uh like the president i don't read the books i just live the books and so i know the philosophy of the secret it's not that that if you imagine a pizza in your brain, someone's going to deliver a pizza, is it?
Starting point is 00:59:27 No, no. But there are many ways people preach the law of attraction. I think the secret is the most, I think, broad version and basically gets a lot of people hooked because they're trying to sell it to you as magic. Right. It's like, oh, the problem is your inability to communicate your inability to like
Starting point is 00:59:45 communicate your needs to other people it's that you just don't think about shit enough it's like no that's like a really weird way to describe like that's not self-help um because i do like on a certain level i do believe that there is a power to how you look at your own life not necessarily that like if i think about a PS5, someone's going to knock on my door and just drop one off. But I do believe in like, you know, that perception is reality, right?
Starting point is 01:00:11 And if you're in a negative head space and you're only looking at negative, like only thinking about what's wrong in your life, then your confirmation bias is only going to look for negative shit. And you'd be like, of course this thing went wrong.
Starting point is 01:00:23 Of course this happened. Of course I, but, and you get so much momentum going that yes that it feels like that's how your world is but at the same time i think like just i think an easier way to look at the secret is like you can also just sort of like try and look for the positive things that are happening to you and just be more aware of that rather than in a in a mode where like everything sucks of course it sucks of course that sucks to sort of like yeah some things suck but some things are good oh hey that happened that was cool oh that happened that was cool and then from there
Starting point is 01:00:53 you could very like i think it's really more about having more of a positive outlook and having positive self-talk more than like the magic of rear-ending some dude in a fucking ford f-150 who has a magical patent that'll get your daughter a pony and you a Range Rover yeah that's that's interesting um so that that sounds not worth watching it's I don't know bad good where like you're like oh my god I have to watch this I mean like I think look if you if you're feeling really shitty and you watch this, you'll probably feel good because it almost it feels like fantasy. You're like everything that's been going wrong for this person has been till one day. Everything that could go right does start going right.
Starting point is 01:01:40 And sure, like just the the act of watching the pendulum swing the other way may be like fine or whatever but i mean it's not like a good it's not even like a good romance film or anything like that plus you got to pay for it and put money into these people's pockets so like no it's a hard pass uh you don't you don't you don't need to you don't need to waste your time on it i think me telling you right now is fine it reminds me of pay it forward. Wasn't that like one of those like American self-help philosophy books that got adapted into a movie that was just basically like dramatizing a very simplistic philosophy, but like that didn't quite work out unless you're a fan of cinema, in which case pay it forward is one of the finest films of of our time and the thing the film does though is like they make josh lucas the way he talks be like man if i was like that i guess i would have everything because he's like so weird and cryptic like where he's checking out of a hotel and the uh the concierge uh the woman at the concierge she's like studying for her lsats
Starting point is 01:02:42 and he's like when he's checking out he's like hey good luck on your l. And he's like, when he's checking out, he's like, Hey, good luck on your LSATs. And she's like, Oh, I don't know. It's just so hard. It's just so overwhelming. I just think maybe I won't do well. And he's like,
Starting point is 01:02:51 Hey, Hey, Hey, can you see yourself being a lawyer? Take a second right now. Can you see yourself being a lawyer? Is that real? And she's like,
Starting point is 01:02:58 yeah, I can see it. It's, it's so real to me. And he's like, then so can I. And he like walks off and she's like,
Starting point is 01:03:06 wow, I don't know what the fuck that meant. But my face was smiling. Wow. I want to fuck that man. Yeah. So in the end,
Starting point is 01:03:15 I would say like, yo, like a cheap version is like just a less spooky way to do the secret. Try and just,
Starting point is 01:03:23 you know, change your negative self talk to more positive things try and look for the positive in your life i think that's a better message than like then saying like yo your life's bad and the reason is you're not wishing enough right right which is what i think actually i think the lesson is um your life isn't great because your husband didn't die in a plane crash uh next to josh lucas and leave him a patent that josh lucas could improve and then make a lot of money off of and then pay you back for the money you didn't have talk about a relatable circumstance yeah yeah we've all been
Starting point is 01:03:57 there come on everyone has this story in their life right we're honest you'll love it's jarring in the sense that that plot line comes in way too late in the film and you're like right what is this now like i just thought it was about a dude coming to this small town and changing people's lives and now he might be like then at a certain point like did he kill the hud wait what the fuck that would have been a way better movie i thought it was gonna be a horror when you were setting it up i was like oh shit and like is he the devil and then it's way lamer than that i wish it's like you've been thinking about him and i'm here to reunite y'all the secret we should write the secret as a horror i mean yeah i'm sure
Starting point is 01:04:39 that's that's out there right that's definitely a goosebumps book it reminds me oh that already was be careful what you wish for it was a goosebumps there you go all right so i watched cobra kai a couple weeks back everybody loves it it's great it's really great um it's so much better than it needs to be uh so much better than i was expecting it to be uh the basic conceit is that johnny is and this is this is the reality if you go back and watch the original karate kid daniel's kind of a drag is is where this uh reboot comes from it's like daniel's kind of annoying uh and kind of a dick and johnny also a dick but so they do they make one key change in the first one in the like original movie Johnny was a rich kid and now he's blue collar and that's not how America works actually America is like one of the most deterministic societies statistically
Starting point is 01:05:43 based on class but you know you get over this quickly and enjoy the hell out of the show but it's just noteworthy that what the rules of the reality they choose to change are like the the only reason that Daniel was actually sympathetic in the first one
Starting point is 01:06:00 was because he was blue collar and like the other kids were kind of dicks and rich kids um but they like basically explained it away by being like he only lives in a mansion because his mom like married a an abusive asshole who uh like was rich in the first place and then daniel Daniel is now like the, the, they have Daniel. He's, he's like a, a car dealership owner who like has exploited his teenage athletic success to become like a famous, like local celebrity,
Starting point is 01:06:40 which is a very real thing. Oh, wait. So they're, they're adults in it they're adults yeah oh yeah it's like them now yes sorry i didn't know that daniel larusso right so yeah i should have set it up better so it's just present day what daniel larusso would be doing what johnny would be doing and they flip it so that daniel's this rich guy who you know
Starting point is 01:07:03 his success in the all Valley Karate Tournament in high school has like put him on this trajectory towards everyone knows that's how you make money in America yeah and then Johnny's loss in the All Valley Karate Tournament has put him on a trajectory towards like now he's just
Starting point is 01:07:20 like a an alcoholic who does like odd jobs for people and is like he there's also like Billy Just like an alcoholic who does odd jobs for people. There's also Billy Zabka is a much better actor than I was expecting him to be. Who is that? Billy Zabka is Johnny. Oh, okay. Same actor.
Starting point is 01:07:45 Genuinely nails the role of a has-been 80s douche to the point that it kind of borders on like, wait, has he time traveled here from the 80s? Because he like the stuff he's unaware of is pretty, pretty wild, but he's great. He's like always calling girls babes and like, oh shit. It's, it's really funny.
Starting point is 01:08:02 So is the, and the actor is the same of him for him too? The actor is the same for both. That's really funny. And the actor is the same for him too? The actor is the same for both. That's so cool. So it's Ralph Macchio and Billy Zabka are the stars. Billy Zabka is really good. Ralph Macchio is really game. I appreciate that he was willing to be like,
Starting point is 01:08:21 yeah, this guy kind of sucks and like portray portray this role right yeah or maybe he like actually thinks he's the good guy i don't know but he's like yeah like in real life ralph he's completely misunderstood the script he's like this is great man this is great they're like he's such an idiot i like that i wish billy zabka if you're saying he was like so in the 80s there of a moment he's like hey hand me me my bum equipment tank top and gotcha pants so I can go out into the world. Yeah, more or less. He's full on.
Starting point is 01:08:54 He still dresses like a cool guy from the 80s. He has a beat up Camaro. Love it. Yeah, and Daniel is full on, has a espresso machine and like really nice mcmansion in the valley and uh is just the worst is always like drinking wine with his wife and being like darling you know he's just he's just like such a you know upper middle class douche um and like they made him be like basically how the 80s would like lampoon the idea of like the yuppie basically that now he's like the 80s he's that yeah right
Starting point is 01:09:32 right right it's it's interesting because it's yeah it like they totally flip it on its head where they're like yeah we re-watched this and like the guy who we rooted for is a fucking drag like i made me want to see like a ferris bueller reboot that acknowledges that he's like a right complete like american psycho style like capitalist uh uh sociopath or i think goonies is the one that's probably the most ripe for this sort of reboot. Because that town felt really lived in and the stakes of the universe were really fun. Ferris Bueller just ends up becoming a Supreme Court justice or president. Right, exactly.
Starting point is 01:10:17 I had always just the biggest crush on Cameron. Oh, yeah. I did not understand how him and Ferris' girlfriend didn't actually get together because they were like real normal human beings that actually you liked. And then Ferris was like, I don't know, like a weird...
Starting point is 01:10:36 I guess sociopath is right, but I don't know. I don't think that's even the thing. It's just like... Yeah, you're right. He would have been president. It's just like yeah you're right he would have been president it's just like a cult of personality of yourself that you're obsessed with he's just so obsessed with how great he is he thinks any way that he changes anybody else's life is like duh i get to do that and even that like he is ferris Bueller is like true white man privilege. Like he's like, I'm a fucking fuck with my school.
Starting point is 01:11:08 I'm going to get my friend to like fuck his dad's car up. I have a lizard brain. Everything's in service of my desires right now. I'll tell these people to ditch school. We'll go here. We'll go there. We'll do this. I don't give a fuck.
Starting point is 01:11:20 Watch me get in this fucking parade. I don't give a fuck. So, you know, in in a way like we all kind of need a little big uh bit of big ferris bueller energy uh but in the right direction because but yeah but i also see that as a guy who's like there are no limits to what i can do because i have the star in mario cut to you're running the country i want to rewrite ferris bueller where uh cameron and sloan get together. Yeah. Oh, and Ferris gets cucked.
Starting point is 01:11:47 Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He doesn't make it to the parade because he's like, shit, I don't think I'm a good person. I have a lot to think about. So basically the plot of Cobra Kai is that Johnny meets a kid who's like the modern day like underdog he's
Starting point is 01:12:07 like a poor kid who lives in the same apartment complex as him so he like basically has a miyagi daniel uh friendship with this kid who's really great like uh and then daniel meets somehow through a convoluted set of circumstances that's actually kind of believable johnny's like uh estranged son like to piss off his dad starts training with daniel and so then like they have these like competing karate armies by the second season that's amazing and they're just like fighting each other all over the place. Season two ends with like this massive fight where that I was like, wait, this is like everybody would get arrested. This is so horrible. And then.
Starting point is 01:12:53 Yeah, well, I won't spoil it, but it's it's good. It's worth watching, especially if you liked the original Karate Kid. Even if you didn't, it's pretty fun. I love the original Karate Kid. Oh, man didn't. It's pretty fun. I love the original Karate Kid. Oh, man. I watched that movie so many times. That and Jaws were like my origin texts. Another good one.
Starting point is 01:13:16 Yeah. So shout out to Cobra Kai and the people who made it. Made it really, you know, they just took the job very seriously. They weren't like, this is just a reboot of some shitty 80s movie. And the people who made it made it really, you know, they just took the job very seriously. They weren't like, this is just a reboot of some shitty 80s movie. They were like, you can tell they love the movie. There's like some stuff in there about how, you know, a toxic, you know, the John Kreese guy, like his the shadow he casts over the lives of like these guys who grew up under a toxic instructor or a toxic authority figure. It's pretty good. So, yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:52 Highly recommend. People should check it out if you want to ignore reality for a little while. Yeah, totally starting that. I need to put on my side-out crew neck sweatshirt. That's right. And just get it in. The side-out universe. Re get it in the side out universe. Reboot the side out universe.
Starting point is 01:14:11 Side out big dogs. Sophia, it's been a pleasure having you as always. Where can people find you and follow you? It's been so nice being here. Thanks for having me. You can find me on twitter and instagram at the sofia s-o-f-i-y-a and you should get my album father's day wherever you listen to albums yeah and is there a tweet or some other work of social media you've been enjoying
Starting point is 01:14:38 yes okay so as i was telling you guys about the Coco myth, the reason I was Googling Coco is because I saw this tweet and it made me laugh so hard. And the tweet was, cannot stop thinking about Coco the gorilla being asked to tell a joke and her signing, I love Ron, about one of the researchers. Can you imagine being Ron? Got a joke for you. It makes me laugh so hard. And then the follow up to that joke, the person wrote, what is it like to know so concretely that a gorilla just doesn't like you?
Starting point is 01:15:17 What is it like to be dunked on by a gorilla? What is it like to know a gorilla is thinking, oh, this fucking guy guy whenever you walk into the room so that made me just feel delighted Miles
Starting point is 01:15:36 where can people find you and what's a tweet you've been enjoying you can find me on Twitter and Instagram at miles of gray also you know you should come to this other podcast. I do with Sophia. Uh, fiance, you know, you know, if we, you know what time it is, you know, we're getting faded talking about 90 day fiance, our favorite non-reality reality show.
Starting point is 01:15:55 Uh, and also we have special guests. Check out the episodes on the podcast app. You will see, we've had Arnold Schwarzenegger on, we've had Jerry Seinfeld on like, you don't believe me scroll to the bottom. You will see Arnold's like Arnold Schwarzenegger on. We've had Jerry Seinfeld on. If you don't believe me, scroll to the bottom. You will see Arnold. They were on. Wow. Gaming the podcast algorithm and doing a wild impression.
Starting point is 01:16:12 They came on. So please stick around for those when they come out Wednesdays and Thursdays. I'm not really on Twitter, so I don't have a tweet that I like. But I do know because I've been following it. Okay, so Monday is transfer deadline day for European football, so a lot of moves happening. Oh, footy? Trying to get over the line.
Starting point is 01:16:33 Oh, yeah, mate. And the one that I'm really loving is Arsenal look to be signing a Thomas party from Atletico Madrid, but it was done in a way where we we kind of hoodwinked them so there's like a lot of great memes out where I don't know it doesn't make sense to anyone but I don't know if you know the meme that's like the old man where he's like call the ambulance and then like in one frame of the next one he's got the gun he's like but not for me uh there's a few arsenal ones like that so I like that energy right now so shout out the
Starting point is 01:17:01 gooners you know I mean and mean? And the Gunners, everybody. All right. A couple tweets I've been enjoying. Charlene de Guzman tweeted, oh, no, I'm on mushrooms and I can see everything. And Bria Sanford tweeted, imagining a Veep episode where everyone tries to get COVID to prove how much access they have to the president. Too real. Too, too real. But then they started probably getting petty over petty over like no you actually didn't get that from him i got it from him you got it different strain you got the common strain actually i got the president's strain um that
Starting point is 01:17:37 would be a good way to end veep as they all die from trying to get the hardest strain possible um and then hampton yacht tweeted just collabed with arby's on a new type of shitting Veep as they all die from trying to get the hardest strain possible. And then Hampton Yacht tweeted, just collabed with Arby's on a new type of shitting. Sunglasses emoji. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, dailyzeitgeist.com,
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Starting point is 01:18:20 I got to go. Look, we're all going back in time in some ways to try and soothe ourselves. I was just going through like I'm going through some old hard drives and stuff. And I'm just pulling up like old, you know, you have like the iTunes library and shit on a hard drive. And I was like, yo, I haven't listened to Burial in a minute. And if you don't fuck with Burial, this is this is that like london edm shit if you're like into the dark beats and stuff like hardcore jungle garage uh this is what burial is all about uh and this track archangel it's just like the hit i remember just being like in
Starting point is 01:18:58 college just being like oh my god i don't need the radio anymore because now i'm on this trippy euro shit um so yeah check this out it's just got it's like perfect parts like funky spooky and soulful so take that and put it in your ear take that assholes uh all right the daily zeitgeist the production of i heart radio for more podcasts from my heart radio visit the, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. That is going to do it for this morning. We'll be back this afternoon to tell you what is trending and all the things that have happened since we recorded this.
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