The Daily Zeitgeist - THE Stairs, Under (GO)Pressure 10.24.19
Episode Date: October 24, 2019In episode 501, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian Maddie Connors to discuss the scariest haunted house in America, Bill Taylor's Ukraine testimony, the GOP panicking, the 2020 election polls, NBA ...headbands, Menghazi with Cuba Gooding Jr., the Joker stairs, and more!FOOTNOTES: Scariest haunted house in U.S. requires 40-page waiver, doctorās note, safeĀ word READ: Taylorās Damning Testimony On Ukraine Pressure Campaign Fox News breakinā our the Big Guns to defend the President. Ukrainian leader felt Trump pressure before taking office Republicans storm closed-door hearing to protest impeachment inquiry Wednesday's intro: Mitch McConnell says he doesn't recall talking to Trump about call with Ukraine Florida Poll Inexplicably Excludes Bernie Sanders The NBA's Headband Revolution Is Here Whatever they said Cuba Gooding Jr. did.. he did that shit! Joker Stairs Named Religious Destination on Google Maps Joker fans, it sounds like the Bronx really doesn't want you to come to those stairs An Afternoon at the Joker Stairs, New Yorkās Newest Tourist Attraction AOC remembers being told to āstay awayā from the Bronxās āJoker Stairsā Joaquin Phoenixās Hysterical Story About āCruel Teenagersā Heckling Him On The Joker Set WATCH: D33J - Nothing Left feat. Deb Never and Shlohmo (Official Video) Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Hello, the internet, and welcome to Season 105, Episode 4 of
The Daily Zeitgeist, a production of iHeart Radio.
This is a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness
and say officially off the top, fuck Coke Industries and fuck Fox News.
Yeah, fuck you too.
It's Thursday, October 24th, 2019.
My name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a.
Jackin' Around Like a Bapkin.
O'Brien got too many napkins.
Hot takes comin' out like flapkins.
Old Snapkid takes one hit of green in his hands, dancing around like plapkins.
That is courtesy of Freddie Bidet.
And I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray.
I'm a fart maker, windbreaker, pants shaker.
Please don't send me to the dean.
You're a fart hater, stink slayer, fun taker.
I can't hold it in, oh no, no.
Wow.
Fire.
Oh, fire.
So appropriate.
Down below, look.
Smelly man.
You let the listeners in onto a little part of your life where you farted so much in your AP economics class,
the teacher sent you to the dean.
And lo and behold, crispy meme donut comes through with a Pat Benatar heartbreaker.
Also, shout out my really good homie from high school who,
this is a completely side story,
I had a friend who got fully naked when he was taking shit in high school.
He would put his school uniform on the door of the stall and we would smash that shit what was i mean i understand you want to you don't want your shit to get like
toilet water no no no even in his own home we lived together right too after high school like
we were roommates too had to always and no necklaces no nothing huh anyway his dad was
in pat better and that's what's on it oh shout out to him a lot of a lot of connections right it's appropriate that you guys were friends i guess
who you with your infamous farting abilities farting with the an inability to shit naked
yeah i know other people too and i've talked about this on the show my friend's other brother
he has to have a towel on his lap yeah or my other friend has to have the shower yeah i know i have
friends just the shower and towel on. I have friends just like that.
The shower and towel on the lap?
Shirt off, I think, was one of my friends' towel on the lap.
I've heard before.
I don't see a towel on the lap.
I think it's to cover...
The stink from getting between your legs?
Yeah.
It's coming up.
It's coming up.
It's coming up.
It's there.
I don't know what that is.
Dude.
Okay.
My bad. The gorillas, fam? I don't know what that is dude okay my bad well I'm
thrilled that we opened the way we did
with a first time guest
we're thrilled to be joined
by the hilarious comedian
Maddie Connors
hi thank you so much for having me
thank you for being here
yes I'm sure especially now that you've
heard us talk about farting.
Did the poop talk?
Are you okay with that?
Oh, please.
I love it.
Do you know any people with weird farting or pooping styles?
You know, I grew up with a father, and that's huge.
Yeah, that's huge for me.
That's huge.
You might know him, Master Fartman.
Yeah, nothing I can think of off the top of my head.
Okay, great.
I'll talk to someone later.
Didn't mean to put you on the spot with that.
Name someone now with a weird hat in the back.
No, I mean, you just outed your dad as somebody who farts.
You must be mortified.
All right, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment.
First, we're going to tell our listeners a few of the things we're talking about.
We're going to check in with what is deemed the scariest haunted house in America.
It's in Tennessee.
And you have to sign a 40-page waiver to go there.
And watch a two-hour warning training video.
Seems like too much.
We're going to check in with what we've learned since Bill Taylor's testimony.
We're going to check in with what we've learned about how the Ukrainian leader felt about those calls that he had with the president.
The perfect, perfect.
Perfect.
It was perfect.
How the Republicans are feeling about this whole impeachment inquiry, how they're totally not panicking.
A couple interesting takes, one from Dick Toilet, Matt Whitaker, on abuse of power.
One from Mitch McConnell on what he thought about Trump's perfect, perfect phone call. And yet another from Trump's attorneys in Manhattan arguing that he could, in fact, shoot someone in the middle of Fifth Avenue and they wouldn't be able to do shit.
They literally said that in court.
We're going to check in with the NBA conspiracy theory we worked through, Miles came up with today.
We're going to check in with another edition of Mengazi.
Mengazi.
And the Joker stairs, our new national monument, the stairs from that dancing scene in the
Joker.
Makes more sense.
We've taken a dump on the Statue of Liberty at this point.
But first, Maddie, we'd like to ask our guests, what is something from your search history
that's revealing about who you are?
Great.
I recently Googled, are parrots allowed in hospitals?
Because I was visiting a family member in the hospital, and there was a parrot there.
Truly every day I was there.
There was, like, a patient who had a parrot on her shoulder every day.
And I was going to narc on her.
Wow.
Yeah, it was, like, a weird, like, WeWork weird like we work space she had like a parent was just
um you know at the hospital yes he was like the parrot was inside the hospital every single day
day i was visiting like on the floor on the hospital floor out here just on a shoulder
and it was of a patient another patient must be a support parent yeah maybe i googled that after i
was like do they count? But I was like,
what happened to dogs?
Like, we can just
bring dogs back.
Yeah.
So the parrot
really bothered you, huh?
You're like,
what the fuck
is this parrot doing
in this motherfucking hospital?
Not a fucking pirate ship.
It really felt like a zoo.
It felt like a weird...
Yeah.
Yeah, I'm just curious.
But, you know.
And did you find an answer?
We don't know.
No, no idea.
You didn't even do, like,
the thing to, like,
the nurse, like, around and me like, huh, that's
some of that paradigm.
I can't imagine that's legal, right?
Right?
That's got to be a concern.
Maybe you should throw that one out.
I should have tweeted at the hospital.
That would have been the next step.
Yeah.
At Delta Airlines.
Right.
At whatever hospital.
There's a fucking Macau in here.
Macau, rather.
Macau is the gambling island, I know.
So, Maddie, why do you hate birds?
Oh, I don't hate birds.
I'm not...
Interesting.
It's interesting.
I think they're dirtier than cats, right?
Birds are dirtier than cats.
Yeah.
Probably.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't like birds because they look like dinosaurs.
Right.
I mean, most animals are dirtier than cats.
Cats shit in designated areas or can be taught to do that.
Self-cruel.
I don't know.
Birds love to shit everywhere.
I have a bird Twitter in our mentions.
Yeah.
I know.
I didn't mean to come out as anti-bird.
I didn't really mean to.
No, they're coming for you, Maddie.
We cornered you.
They're coming for you.
What is something you think is underrated?
Underrated.
Talking on the phone. Everyone hates to do it, but I really like it. Thank you. What is something you think is underrated? Talking on the phone.
Everyone hates to do it, but I really like it.
Thank you. Bring it back.
I've heard that recently from
somebody else, another young person
who's into talking
on the phone and can't get friends
to do it. I have friends that if they get
an unknown call, they'll just send it to voicemail.
I always pick up.
You always pick up? You are a scammer's dream. I know it's like i don't know why i wasn't so afraid it feels
like you know to pick up a number you don't know yeah i typically it's weird i at this point most
people just text all the time right um and i just have a rule if your number is not saved in my
phone i'm not picking up yeah Yeah. Nine out of 10 times.
It's a fucking robocall or like telling me about some rebate that the state of California is giving for solar panels.
I'm like, bro, this is not me.
Do you have the new iPhone setting that sends all unknown calls that aren't from your contact list into like directly to voicemail?
No, that's a new setting that I had on.
And I was like, wow, this is so much more
peaceful. But then I did one of those things where you can like, you're on hold and you have
them call back and got like six voicemails. It was like, your voicemail is 95% cell phoned.
Exactly. Do you guys call your friends to catch up with them or do you like?
Yeah. If they don't live in the state, like around the phone call is really the only way you
can like speak to somebody like you don't.
Yeah.
You can't get a lot done in text.
Right.
And also, you know, at my age, being an elder millennial, we grew up talking on phones all
the time.
So like to me, that's more normal than texting.
Yeah.
So.
Yeah.
FaceTime, though.
That's when you get a FaceTime.
You weren't expecting.
It's so scary.
Yeah, that's a lot.
It's violent, I would say.
To be honest, if I'm like high and have no shirt on and you're FaceTiming me,
ooh, no, no, no, no, no.
Yeah, I think that's maybe a good rule in general
is never FaceTime somebody without texting first and being like,
hey, want to FaceTime?
Down to FT?
Down to FT?
Yeah.
DTFT.
I've noticed myself FaceTiming like my sister
and she just like won't answer ever
unless I do the text first and like set up a time.
Oh, wow.
Yeah, I think that's probably a good rule for myself.
I need to just stop randomly FaceTiming my sister.
Boundaries. Exes or, you know. I would like just stop randomly FaceTiming my sister.
Boundaries.
Or exes or, you know.
I would like build a home that would make my cell phone inert.
Right.
And I could only use a corded phone, telephone.
Yeah.
Just to be like, have that like sort of go back to simpler times when I'm in my own space.
I'll have a computer up fine.
Very Scarface.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Thank you.
With the globe that says the world is mine.
Right. Yes.
Or yours, whatever one it was.
What is something you think is overrated?
I don't love hot tubs.
I'm not a hot tub person.
Yeah.
Go on.
What do you mean?
I don't love being hot in general, and I feel like-
You're so modest.
Yes.
And I feel like being in hot water, it's a lot of skin cells.
I know it's disgusting but it's true
it's like skin cells
it's dirty
yeah you don't want to be
in body soup
yes and then bring it back
to my father
he's someone who regularly
passes out in hot tubs
like because
he gets too hot
you're dead
damn
I was like
it gets so hot
he's like fuck
I don't want to see
fucking hot tub
we're all worried
I really feel like
it's a Harrison Ford like suicide attempt thing where he's
like,
I just passed out on accident.
It wasn't on purpose.
Right.
Yeah.
But a lot of the times you're just thinking all this body lint.
Yeah.
You can see it in the water when it's floating.
And I've never been in a hot tub with like clean people.
It's always like,
you know,
guys I knew freshman year of college.
Right.
Right.
Who are like using this as a bath.
Yes,
for sure.
They're like, why do you keep scrubbing your arm under the water? They're like, nah, I'm just year of college. Right, right. Who were like using this as a bath. Yes, for sure.
They're like,
why do you keep scrubbing your arm under the water?
They're like,
nah, I'm just feeling myself.
I'm not exfoliating here
in the fucking hot tub.
I once was in a hot tub
with a guy who's eating red vines
that got wet from the hot tub water
and continued eating them.
I'm okay with that.
I'm okay with that.
Yeah, to be honest.
I'm trash.
I'm not saying that he's right.
I'm saying I'm disgusting. Yeah, that doesn honest. I'm trash. I'm not saying that he's right.
I'm saying I'm disgusting.
Yeah, that doesn't do anything to me.
Because you know what?
In my mind, chlorine.
Yeah, exactly.
And I'm like, what's a little skin cell
between friends or strangers at a holiday inn?
It's basically like pre-softened for you a little bit.
Also, you know, actually,
I'm a little more upset about the,
I don't like red vines.
In a hot tub. I don't like, just in general. I'm not a big red vines fan. So I'm like, more upset about the I don't like red vines in a hot tub
I don't like
just in general
I'm not a big red vines fan
so I'm like
Twizzler
yeah
catch me in Twizzlers
that have been dipped
and submerged in a hot tub
red vines you can use
as a straw right
yep
disgusting
yeah that's again
that's an abomination
was he doing that
that would be
drinking the jacuzzi water
through a red vine
like a hot tea
I wish can you stop every time you drink Drinking the jacuzzi water through a red box. Like a hot tea.
I wish.
Can you stop ah-ing every time you drink the jacuzzi water?
He kept saying, that's the tea, sis, and we'll drink the hot tub.
That's the tea, sis.
He's like, oh, fart snorkel.
It's where I fart and I try and get the air bubbles underneath the water.
Okay, just me?
Yeah.
All right, well.
Person tea or person soup, either not feeling it yeah um well but i like but i get that but this feeling of a hot tub is nice yeah like a hot bath maybe
yeah see that's why you're like are you an ice bath person you say you don't like
because i'm like an athlete right yeah yeah i mean i would do lukewarm i'm like a big
lukewarm really wow so do you do cold showers? Yes Wow
Do you guys?
No
In the summer?
Yeah
When the like ambient temperature is hot
I'm like I don't need to get this hot
Right
I have to be very uncomfortable to do a cold shower
Really?
Very
Yeah I don't like cold showers
Even with your sweats
You don't feel like
That's not the hack to be like
Chill body now
I think maybe because my body showers itself
In cold sweat
It's already self-regulating.
I've never
really gotten overheated to the point that I needed
a cold shower. It feels so good to walk
in a cold shower. It feels like taking an Adderall.
It's like you're ready.
We'll see when it's cold and you have
a freezing bathroom and take a cold shower.
That's a level of shivering I'm not
willing to do. You only do that if
you're punishing yourself or-
Yes, or trying to sober up.
Trying to sober up before a podcast recording.
That's right.
Miles's clothes are completely drenched.
Always drenched.
I'm always got half washed off,
ax body wash on my neck.
Do hot tubs need more chemicals than a pool
because bacteria would form more easily?
And you sweat in them, too.
I don't know.
Pool zeitgang.
Pool maintenance zeitgang.
I know some of y'all out there, because we've talked when I was trying to maintain chlorine levels.
What's the rule?
Do you need more?
Need more chemicals for the soup?
Are they worse for you?
Worse to drink?
Worse to drink, yeah.
Through a red bun?
Well, I was going to say, like, in Japan, right, like, there's a lot, their bath culture
is very big there, but you have to clean your body before you get into a tub.
You can't just hop in and soup it up with your dead skin.
It's like Wii Spa.
Yeah, exactly.
Like, you know, we respect, because you get, like, people clock that, and they're like,
I ain't getting in that fucking bath.
All this shit floating around.
So do, exfoliate the fuck out yourself yeah and i remember as a kid there was like this japanese
scrubbing cloth i'm sure all asian people have it i remember you still fucking at the beginning i
didn't understand why she was like buffing my skin down to like the new parts right and then as i
realized earlier on i was like oh it's exfoliating and you gotta kind of put some elbow grease into that sometimes gorgeous do you guys go to
WeSpa a lot
are you WeSpa fans
I'm not
same
I feel like that's
like the first thing
people do when they
get unemployed
is go to WeSpa
for a day
put in hours at WeSpa
or go like late
yeah
just chilled like
for like deep into
the night
like after hours
it's good self-care
good self-care
what is a myth
well now I'm afraid
because I have spent
so much time talking about my father already.
But it was about my father.
That I have a father.
I have a father.
I was lying.
My, like the apple fall, fall, wait.
The apple.
Apple doesn't fall.
Yes.
Far from the tree.
So my dad is a sommelier and works in wine.
I hate wine so much.
I won't drink it.
I won't smell it.
I feel like it tastes like battery acid.
Rebel.
Yeah, it's really weird.
I think it's probably like a weird psychological thing
where I just grew up watching.
How many siblings do you have?
I have one sister.
Are you the older or the younger?
Younger.
Okay, you're the youngest.
Yeah.
And you're pushing back again.
And your older sister likes wine.
Yes.
Wow.
Interesting.
How did you know that?
Thank you.
This has been my TED Talk.
Wait, so do you like other forms of?
Yeah, I drink cocktails, but I won't drink wine.
Oh.
Yeah.
Huh.
It's just, you just can't, is it, the first thing you're like, I don't like it, but do
you think if you stripped away, does your dad like wax on and on about wine all the
time?
Yeah, I think it's because like when I was a teenager, I couldn't go in tasting rooms.
My dad would like leave me in the parking lot
when he would taste.
So it's time to neglect.
It's not good.
Does this see your dad falling in a hot tub?
Just falling asleep in a hot tub
with a big glass of warm red next to him.
He's just avoiding my mom by going to wine tasting.
He's like, I don't like it.
I don't like the culture
okay
fantastic
hey
that's
you're right
yeah
that's cool
so are you
like you
when you're
at Thanksgiving
are you the only one
not drinking wine
yeah
yeah I think so
yeah
is that a rule
to have wine
I guess yeah
well no
I was just wondering
like family wise
right
yeah
well no i just feel
like when i think about it there is wine like because even on my my like my dad's side their
wine didn't start coming in the picture till like later on right before there wasn't a lot of wine
on the table right now i think they they think they made it or some shit it's so scary when
someone like finds wine when they turn like 54 right. Look, to be honest, I was a little bit ignorant about wine.
I thought there were only four kinds, red, white, screw top, and cork.
Actually, five and box.
And then I went to Italy for the first time.
When I was in Tuscany, I went to the San Bolognano winery,
and I fell in love with a Chianti that...
To say it may be tasty.
There's this haunted house in Tennessee
that, far from any winery,
probably close to some whiskey distilleries.
You know what a haunted house would be?
A world without this Chianti that I have.
Oh, shut the fuck up.
Because in a way...
So there's this gentleman
mccamey uh who owns and operates uh what claims to be the most terrifying haunted house experience
in america claims well uh let's see tough guy he follows the people through with a video camera
because they will like try and sue him because they're so fucked up so it's
the exact nathan for you bit where he was like you're gonna make your your haunted house pop in
because you're gonna be so scary people sue you yeah it's basically that it is that's the exact
premise that nathan offers the haunted house owner yeah Yeah. That episode. Okay. He films every tour. He then publishes the results on his YouTube page.
I haven't had a chance to watch the hours and hours of footage of people
walking around in the dark.
But yeah,
it just seems,
it seems next level.
He makes you watch a two hour video.
On what?
Like how to be scared?
Yeah.
I think basically.
Or like primes you?
Yeah, you're not allowed to.
There's all this long list of like you can't touch the actors,
you can't do any of this stuff, and then primes you to be scared,
which I wonder if that like he also talks in this article
that's like a profile of him from the local news about hypnosis.
So I wonder if like part of the video is priming you like to be scared
like in particular so that that when you go in, everything that you're hearing in the dark becomes something really frightening.
Hold on.
Are they waterboarding people in here?
I'm watching this clip.
This woman is covered in blood crying.
Yeah.
Someone has a hand around her throat?
No.
Yeah.
Is that her own throat?
Yikes.
Or is that him?
It looks like the dude holding the camera.
It looks like a dark-ass POV porn video.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's really kind of the vibe you get.
He is, he's never drank, taken an illegal drug, or sworn.
He's never even had a cup of coffee.
So he's like this.
Oh, boy.
He's like Trump.
It's Mitt Romney.
Right.
He's the...
Yeah, he's the...
Teetotaler who's getting his jollies
by pouring blood on women
and strangling them on camera.
Yeah.
I think that might be what we're dealing with.
But you can experience it for yourself.
What's this challenge I'm reading?
Yeah.
He will, I think, pay you... I think there's a $20,000 prize
if you can make it all the way through the haunted house.
Oh, shit.
There's something like this in San Diego too, actually,
where it's supposed to be the most immersive, disturbing experience you have,
and people come from all over the country to do it because it is so fucked up.
being experienced you have and people come from all over the country to do it because it is so fucked up and it's sort of the same thing where you're just you're basically being like mentally
tortured for right like eight eight hours straight and people are like oh yeah it was great and other
people like i don't know i shouldn't have done this um it sounds like quantanimo it sounds right It sounds very... Right. Yeah. And apparently he deducts money from your $20,000 prize if you curse.
So...
Aw.
Aw, shucks.
Right.
Yeah.
So you just have to keep it 100% PG as somebody's like waterboarding you with fake blood.
Just looking at this preview video is on his channel.
I'm like, this is all kinds of bad.
But I get it.
I mean, like if there, but I get why there's so many people who I know who are into this
shit.
Like they're like, I want to get fucking freaked the fuck out.
Yeah.
Not me.
I wonder what that is.
Like what that is internally.
What?
If you just like didn't have a lot of adversity, you're like, I want to be scared.
Oh, right. Yeah. That want to be scared. Oh,
right.
That's for white people.
Yeah,
truly.
Like you're like,
man,
I would love to have like all kinds of existential threats coming at me.
Right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean,
when you think about it,
like our like whole nervous system was shaped at a time when we hadn't fully
escaped the food chain.
So we are like,
we were built to experience life altering fear,
like on a regular basis.
So people probably who are too bored,
I think you're right.
Just go and seek it out.
For women,
you can just walk home at night with headphones in.
Right.
And it's the same experience.
Yeah.
I think that's his other fun challenge.
That's next year's haunted house.
The headphone challenge.
Yeah.
Oh, boy.
Well, Ross McCamey, good luck to you, sir.
Yeah.
I hope, man.
I'm going to dig in a little bit more.
I want to see how fun.
Because it sounds like it's basically saying you're going to sign a waiver and an indemnification agreement where I will abuse you.
Yeah.
He says a common fear people share is water.
So like somehow he's turning water into a haunted house attraction.
Why not like enlist in the army if you're going to, you know?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Because.
Dude, he's doing shit like duct taping people's eyes shut, like wrapping it around their heads.
I'm more like, what about the back of your head?
All that hair you'll pull out.
Yeah.
That's good hair back there.
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Do you guys go to Burbank for the haunted houses there?
No, there's one in North Hollywood I went to last year that this dude has.
And he was so stoked.
He's like, I save all my money to do this for the kids.
Yeah.
For the kids. And I was like, ugh. But he was like, but you could tell save all my money to do this for the kids yeah for the kids
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And we have a little bit better visibility than we did yesterday
into what Bill Taylor's testimony was
it's been called a smoking
cannon smoking cannon
fucking everything
direct line connecting
Trump to the withholding of
military aid for
political gain I mean he basically
just destroyed every
argument that they the GOP and the
White House were using to defend his actions he had I mean, he basically just destroyed every argument that they the GOP and the White House were using to defend his actions.
He had I mean, look, it's you knew it was bad when his opening statement was 15 pages long.
Everything we know about his testimony is from this 15 page opening statement that The Washington Post got their hands on.
So we don't know what the fucking testimony is.
We know what the fucking opening statement was. And the opening statement was enough to say, basically, he was it starts off
saying, well, when I took over for Maria Ivanovich in Ukraine, I realized that there were there was
a traditional diplomatic channel people are using and this, quote, irregular one, which is basically
Rudy Giuliani and company doing their own shadow foreign policy. And then he said, oh, yeah, Gordon Sondland told me that Trump wanted Zelensky to publicly declare investigations into Burisma in the 2016 election or there was nothing.
Right.
And Gordon Sondland, if you remember, we were talking about last week, his whole thing was to go up there and be like, I never thought that.
I don't know anything about this.
I'm just a guy who paid a million dollars to be a diplomat. And as it says in the statement,
it was the most damning testimony I've heard, Debbie Wasserman Schultz said.
He drew a very specific line from the president to withholding foreign aid and the refusal of a
meeting, and that he basically wanted to put Zelensky in, quote, a public box by making these statements public about these investigations.
So, I mean, Gordon Sondland is probably a deep shit too now.
He's probably going to have to come back and be like, sir?
Yeah.
Did you lie to us?
Right.
Because you said you didn't know a fucking thing.
But all this-
Is he testifying under oath?
Like, would that be-
Yeah, yeah.
This is under oath.
That's why this is so damning.
This is Bill Taylor who is like an army officer, career diplomat, fucking served.
He was a Bush II appointee.
This is not like someone they can, I mean, we'll see if they try and be like,
this guy's deep state or whatever.
But this dude's just fucking calling them as he saw them.
And I think one of the biggest things, though, too too is that it truly just lays bare that like
Rudy Giuliani and Donald Trump knew exactly what they were doing they were directing all these
other people to do it there's there's just no way to deny this anymore so who knows what the
fucking testimony was what his actual deposition was like right because this is from the fucking
pre-typed up statement he submitted right and this is all relevant and important because it is Trump
cheating at the 2020 election. Yes. That's important. And also, again, when you look at
the knock on effects, if the if if it turns out Ukraine was the one meddling in our elections,
then Russia's off the hook and no more sanctions. Right. And if Ukraine, because we've completely
made them feel destabilized in terms of like the
dependability of American military aid, that would make them closer to making a deal with
Russia to end the conflict and probably give up part of Crimea.
And then again, once that conflict's over, oh, now there's no more invading Crimea sanctions
for Russia either.
Right.
So there's like down the road, these things play out.
They all always they do
benefit russia but again that's neither here or there because really if we're really focusing on
what this actual thing is it's just a complete uh you know corrupt act right that's the stuff
that's going to come out like a couple years down the road is like how it all tied into
yeah if it happens and you know we. I mean, yeah. Yeah.
Also kind of putting the lie to Trump's argument that there wasn't quid pro quo
was Ukrainian officials are coming out and being like,
oh yeah, we totally got the subtext of that phone call
and every phone call that we've had prior with Trump.
There was the phone call that we have the memo
kind of outlining, but there was also an earlier phone call where Trump called to congratulate him
on his election that they actually make reference to in the phone call we saw in the memo and where
we don't know specifically what was said, but Zelensky had to call a group of advisors into a meeting on May 7th and basically be like, well, what do we do here?
This is Trump won't give us aid if we don't do this bullshit investigation.
So, yeah, it's basically, you know, they're just confirming from their side exactly what Taylor was saying.
Yeah, it's i mean
it was very quiet yeah from the gop after this because they did not they didn't know what the
fuck to say uh but you know who didn't know what to say who's that was acting attorney general
former acting attorney general uh matt whittaker aka dick toilet yeah um the man if you don't if general, Matt Whitaker, a.k.a. Dick Toilet. Yeah.
The man, if you're a new listener, you know the lore of Dick Toilet.
Are you aware, Maddie?
Do you know his story?
He was a football player.
Where did he play?
University of Wisconsin, maybe? Yeah, something like that.
I don't know.
I don't want to defame the Badgers like that.
But anyway, he designed a toilet for people with big balls.
So your balls don't go in the toilet water.
So he was like, he's like, this is something we need.
He like tried to make a patent.
I think he did patent this dick toilet.
He's an innovator.
He became attorney general before William Barr.
Great.
So that's why I call him dick toilet.
He was on Laura Ingram's show because, again, they're saying the fallout from Bill Taylor's testimony was essentially, oh, yes, he was abusing his power for his own political gain.
It was a total abuse of the power of the office of the president. And he just gave us because we don't we can't they can't defend anything.
This is what his rebuttal was. Abuse of power is not a crime.
Let's fundamentally boil it down to, you know, the Constitution is very clear that this has to be some pretty egregious behavior.
And they cannot tell the American people what this case is even about.
They have to do it in secret. Hmm.
case is even about right now because they have to do it in secret um whoa where do we start with that abuse of power isn't a crime not a crime of how about corruption right how about extortion
not a crime not a crime okay i guess i guess not nope uh he this is but i mean this is where this
is where they're at right this is them trying to change the goal line by saying that, you know, it's not a crime.
Therefore, he shouldn't be impeached when that's not the definition of what.
That's so lit.
Right.
It's also crazy when he's like, the American people can't be told what this is about.
Right.
Yeah.
They are being told what it's about.
And you don't like it.
So you're just trying to be like, they're arguing the words now because they can't argue,
they can't defend the actions.
So they have to look at everything else around it.
And I think that's the biggest sign when you have no,
like really intellectually non-bankrupt argument.
You have to have technicalities.
Yeah.
And that's sort of where everything is at.
And which plays in even more to what happened on Wednesday when Laura Cooper, who is basically this Pentagon official, was the deputy assistant secretary of defense basically for Russia, Ukraine and Eurasia, was going to give private testimony again.
This is all normal because even suddenly they're doing it in secret.
First of all, these are bipartisan hearings.
So there are Republicans in there and they have the exact same amount of time to ask questions as the Democrats.
Right.
They're not being like, all right, all the Republicans, fuck off real quick.
We're going to do our secret Democrat shit.
Right.
They're in there.
As if they have no secrets, too.
As if they've never done anything.
Right.
So it's just.
And again, this happened with Benghazi.
Yeah.
Like it was.
And guess who?
Everybody cooperated with subpoenas from Mike Pompeo at the time and Trey Gowdy's circus
show.
But now suddenly when this is just the typical refrain from the Republicans, when it's their
turn to be held accountable, not even that Benghazi was a real.
Anyway, that's a whole other thing.
But that now it's their turn to answer for shit. oh this is fucking this is just so corrupt i don't fucking
so what happened was obviously bill taylor's testimony was awful um for the administration
and all their spin and so this woman laura cooper was going to testify
fucking a group of Republican congressmen.
They barged in to this closed door testimony to physically stop her,
her deposition.
They fucking like barged in to this fucking thing.
Stormed the castle,
stormed the fucking room while they were doing this.
Also,
what an incriminating way to prove that she's correct.
If they're so threatened by what she has to say
that they're going to physically like stop themselves.
Yeah.
With cell phones.
Because first of all, these are all happening in a skiff.
And we talked about skiffs were a big thing when Mar-a-Lago initially
because Trump wasn't using any way to say what they call
a sensitive compartmented information facility.
Right.
Because you don't need any information getting out of there.
You can't have cell phones in there.
It's like for truly to be like in this box, nothing leaves this room.
Right.
And it was a big deal in Mar-a-Lago because he wasn't using one.
Yeah.
Or like fucking talking about it outside of one.
Yeah.
Exactly.
He was treating it like an Italian restaurant where he was just like doing business.
Yeah.
People could overhear him talking about foreign policy and whether the world was about to end.
So they essentially hopped into this thing and immediately Adam Schiff and the witness, Laura Cooper, there.
He's like, let's get the fuck out.
This is ridiculous.
Right.
And then Matt Gaetz had this cool like thing where
he was like oh this is just you know they're doing everything in secret and this is just so corrupt
right that we had to violate all these rules and act completely unethical to stop this thing that
is completely legal and lawful right so again very chill what is their argument like are they're claiming because nancy pelosi hasn't held a vote
or something like that well essentially their whole thing is that it's happening behind closed
doors right that's the thing that's why even when you heard dick toilet say and it's all happening
in secret right that's been this other thing they're saying like why is it all secret why do
they got to do all this closed door like like's a grand jury or something? Like they're investigating something.
Now, with Nixon's hearings, I remember in that podcast, Slow Burn, when they were talking about like public sentiment changing over the course of time.
It was public hearings, like basically this process happening on television that changed everybody's mind.
Do you remember, was that the Senate or was that this process, the House inquiry?
I don't know.
I mean, I know eventually a lot of the reporting says that they are going to start publicly doing these.
Yeah.
I think for right now.
Because from the other side, it feels like we're getting these huge revelations, but they're coming out
in like drips and drabs.
Because I think
what they're doing is
when they know it
and they go public,
they want to be able
to present this information
in a way that can catch
whatever lame defense
the Republicans have
like off guard.
Because like the Fox News
will still have to show
the hearings, right?
Oh, yeah.
I mean, who knows how far they'll go.
Whereas the only people who are reporting on the drips and drabs of bad news for Trump that are coming out of these hearings are fake news.
Yeah.
AP and Reuters.
Reuters.
No, even yesterday, right, After Bill Taylor gave his deposition,
Jim Jordan came out
and all the reporters
trying to be like,
oh, what happened in there?
And he was ashen faced.
Oh, really?
And did not say anything.
Yeah.
So then that shows you something too.
Because Democrats will come out
and they were like,
I can't really tell you what I saw,
but whoa.
Right.
Joey Lawrence.
Whoa.
It was fucking wacky in there.
And so I think when you see these people and a lot of the even a lot of the descriptions of the reactions of the Congress, the congressional members during Taylor's deposition or a lot of people just being like just reeling.
Yeah. So and I think the other thing, too, is just like Trump the day before was saying, you know, the GOP really needs to step it up.
They got to get more aggressive and defend me.
I think this storming of the skiff
is that sort of outward demonstration
to his bootlickers.
Of allegiance.
That they're like, you see what we did?
We just barged in on this closed door hearing for you.
It also feels like such a business-y succession vibe
where it's like you're just walking into meetings
and conference rooms and be're like, stop.
Yeah, that's how business meant.
He watched that.
He's like, how do we get Logan Roy on our side?
He's like, Mr. President, that's the actor Brian Cox playing a part.
What?
Oh, fuck.
But I mean, so he also came out and talked about how Mitch McConnell was totally backing him on his version of it.
So, yeah, that was October 3rd, right, when this shit was coming out with the transcript.
Like, I think right after the memo had come out.
Just listen, this is a thing of something Trump said October 3rd, trying to drag Mitch McConnell to his defense,
and then Mitch McConnell on, I believe, Tuesday or Wednesday.
I read Mitch McConnell's statement yesterday, and he read my phone call.
And as you know, he put out a statement
that said that was the most innocent phone call he's read.
And I spoke to him about it, too.
He read my phone call with the president of Ukraine, Mitch McConnell.
He said that was the most innocent phone call that I've read.
I mean, give me a break.
OK.
This is someone asking Mitch McConnell.
That his phone call with the Ukrainian president was perfect and innocent.
Do you believe that the president is having this Ukrainian situation?
We've not had any conversations on that subject.
So he was lying about that?
I don't recall any conversations with the president about that.
I don't know her.
I, who?
No.
Yeah.
That's, again, I mean, in the past, you know, Mitch McConnell is more than willing to provide cover.
I don't know.
I don't know what this means.
provide cover.
I don't know.
I don't know what this means.
If you're,
if you got your,
it's Mueller time, a mug and hat on right now,
you're probably,
but that's the,
that's it.
Right.
But I don't know.
I think it's definitely clear that he's distancing himself from this.
Right.
So take that for what it is.
But at the same time,
he's also just saying,
well,
you'd have to ask him.
I don't recall.
So it's not,
it's still weaslly. The most innocent
phone call is such a funny phrase, too.
The most innocent phone call I've ever read.
Can we actually explore that?
What would an innocent phone call be?
I read dozens of phone calls a day.
And this is up there
with the most innocent of them.
I mean, you know my hobby is to
go through phone transcripts of the most innocent
transcripts. This was like a baby lamb.
Right.
Innocent.
Perfect?
I don't know.
Like, there was no stumbling.
Yeah.
I mean, it's just Trump speak.
It's just he only has access to a handful of words.
Right.
But I just, I want to live in that world, right?
Right.
Where someone goes, oh, fuck yeah, Mr. President.
That was a fucking perfect fucking call, dude.ives holy shit yeah that was fucking perfect you asked him how
he was at the top right yo i said was you said his name right and then you're like dude i think
your wife is a really lovely person oh my god what low bar man perfect dude born on third thinking
he hit a triple dude born on like fourth yeah
he's like it's a new base and only the rich can get two right yeah we'll see just another
check-in with the 2020 election one more just little piece of evidence on the bernie blindness
thing there was a poll of head-to-head matchups. They did Biden versus Trump, Warren
versus Trump, Buttigieg versus Trump, and Kamala Harris versus Trump. And then they also did Biden
and Warren versus Pence, but nowhere to be seen, Bernie. Like that they just didn't show the
results? Yes. Or that they didn't even bother to get. They didn't ask the question. Oh, so they don't even have the data.
They tested the three of the top four and also Kamala Harris, who has plummeted.
And they were like, so somebody asked them, they were like, why didn't you test Bernie?
And the person's explanation was that Buttigieg is surging, which it turns out that story was kind of a media narrative.
He's been polling around 13% in Iowa steadily.
And people just were like, well, now that he kind of had a good debate
or a debate that got a lot of media attention,
we're going to pay attention to the fact that he's been polling at 13%.
And Harris has stalled.
And so he was like,
we just wanted to see what it was like
people who are surging and stalling,
except, like I said, Buttigieg isn't surging
and Harris hasn't stalled.
She's plummeting, basically.
She's like in the realm of your Beddows and Bookers.
Like she's not really there anymore.
But Sanders, I mean, it's just they don't think that Sanders is a legitimate candidate.
They're like, eventually he's going to go away.
So let's just ignore him until he do.
Well, then he has plenty of supporters who don't need those polls to know that they're into the movement that he's representing.
Well, you know, it's like Larry Agron.
Isn't he having like the most attended rallies right now?
Like his rallies are huge.
Bernie had the highest, the biggest rally.
I mean, it was when he announced AOC or when AOC announced her endorsement.
Well, it was publicly at least because she had done
it on Twitter, I think, before.
So that also probably
helped that it was AOC in
New York.
Either way, I mean, he's going to draw a fucking
crowd. Right, yeah.
I don't think he's the frontrunner
and in fact there was a Biden
poll that came out that
put him back way out in front.
And granted, it was only one poll, but it was pretty significant.
And one that's not a complete garbage poll.
So things may be stabilizing for Biden.
It's just weird when, I don't know.
He just needs a couple more town halls and he'll fully show his ass Biden.
Or like a bloodshot eye.
Yeah.
And it's over.
Just blood pouring into his eye.
His teeth just turn black in the middle of his sentence.
You're like, oh my God.
Yeah.
But yeah, like I said, I'm not like a Bernie Stan.
I just do think it's noteworthy when the media has this blind spot.
Miles, you were talking about a
documentary you saw. Well, there's this documentary from 1995 called Spin. And it's just a lot of
footage from the 1992 campaign, presidential campaign. It's a lot of like raw satellite
feeds and stuff. And there was a candidate, Larry Agron, who he was from Irvine, California. He
wasn't like the most compelling guy, but, you know, a lot of this stuff, he was like,
you know, we have a lot of urban issues, like in terms of funding the cities, like our cities
are crumbling.
And he was sort of like one of the things he's talking about was reducing defense spending
to put that into like city infrastructure support programs.
And the media completely erased him from the campaign.
Yeah, you don't you wouldn't be able to know.
You'd think it was Jerry Brown and a few other people running like with bill clinton for the democratic nomination
but he was full-on like being cropped out of photos like when he only got one interview he
was polling at the same as other candidates and even better than some and being not included in
debates to the point that he was like showing up screaming like i should be up there what the fuck
is this right um and you know i mean that was a very different landscape now because people are
i think much more savvy now but there is this there is this sort of like gatekeeper class in
the media too that does this sort of thing yeah and i think it's just a little it's it's just
disingenuous i think just journalistically to to completely ignore something i mean not that
pollsters are journalists but like if you're going to be doing some kind of analysis, why not make it meaningful?
Yeah.
And I just think that they have their own opinions about who has a realistic shot.
And from the beginning, you know, that guy in 1992 was somebody they were like, no, he's got no shot.
Yeah, he was arrested for trying to get on the debate stage because he's like, I'm polling as the same as this guy.
Like, I have 4%.
He was in front of a couple of people by the end.
Yeah.
We found out it's burning the whole time.
Well, he actually ended up like, if you know like Orange County politics,
he got into this whole thing where like he developed,
there's like this huge park thing that was being built.
And it was just an utter like financial disaster.
So I wouldn't say he was necessarily like the same kind of figure,
but probably be an example of how like,
you know,
the media can squeeze you out.
Well,
but they're looking out for us.
I mean,
they knew that this guy was a total fuck up.
Well,
and there was a thing too,
where he's like,
he was complaining about the media coverage and he's like,
well,
you don't have enough media coverage to get media coverage. Right. Right. It's like that thing where you're applying for a job and he's like, well, you don't have enough media coverage to get media coverage.
Right.
Right.
It's like that thing where you're applying for a job and it's like, well, we need someone with more experience.
Like, I need this experience.
What?
Right.
I need the experience to get.
This doesn't make sense.
Right.
Do you think social media has made that better?
Because he can like self.
Yes.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You don't need TV.
I mean, there was only one way to get out there like
radio tv or newspapers right they don't have tiktok fucking twitch and twitter and fucking
all this shit because marion williamson i feel like was largely grassroots through people who
thought she was funny like i probably got find that found out about her through twitter right
yeah yeah for being the jokey orb candidate yeah and. And I mean, I do, you know, I was talking about how this is something that you could argue happened to Trump in 2016.
And he was able to get past it, I think, at least partially because of social media and Twitter.
Well, he was like a, but then it became a funny, like a joke worth covering.
And that's when it changed a little bit.
But like, you know what, Let's see what this asshole.
Can you believe this guy?
That's sort of what the coverage was.
Can you believe?
And then it eventually became that they were like, you know, I'm not saying he had an unfair disadvantage like once the election got to the general election.
But just at the beginning, I think people were like, well, this is never going to happen.
Should have been Jeb, huh?
Right.
Please clap.
Please clap. Please clap.
Yeah.
And then there was also the fact that the news networks like knew he was good TV.
So they put him on.
And when he hosted SNL and like late night embraced him.
Right.
And Jimmy Fallon tussled his toupee.
Right.
All right.
We're going to take another quick break.
We'll be right back.
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My husband's just like, sometimes I'll be eating and he'll just be looking at me.
I'm like, I'm just eating.
Like, I don't know how else to chew.
Table for Two is a bit different from other interview shows.
We sit down at a great restaurant for a meal,
and the stories start flowing.
Our second season is airing right now,
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that are intimate, surprising, and often hilarious.
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In 1982, Atari players had one thing on their minds.
Sword Quest.
This wasn't just a new game.
Atari promised $150,000 in prizes to four finalists.
But the prizes disappeared.
And what started as a video game promotion
became one of the most controversial moments
in 80s pop culture.
I just don't believe they exist.
I mean, my reaction, shock and awe.
That sword was amazing.
It was so beautiful.
I'm Jamie Loftus.
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a podcast about the fall
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This summer, the nation watched as the Republican nominee for president was the target of two assassination attempts, separated by two months. These events were mirrored nearly 50 years ago
when President Gerald Ford faced two attempts on his life in less than three weeks.
President Gerald R. Ford came stunningly close
to being the victim of an assassin today.
And these are the only two times we know of
that a woman has tried to assassinate a U.S. president.
One was the protege of infamous cult leader Charles Manson.
I always felt like Lynette was kind of his right-hand woman.
The other, a middle-aged housewife
working undercover for the FBI
in a violent, revolutionary underground.
Identified by police as Sarah Jean Moore.
The story of one strange and violent summer.
This is Rip Current.
Available now with new episodes every Thursday.
Listen on the iHeartRadio app,
Apple Podcasts,
or wherever you get your podcasts.
And we're back, and so is the NBA, you guys.
The Lakers played the Clippers the other night. What a game.
It was a very good game.
This is the new-look Lakers with Anthony Davis.
The new look Clippers with Kawhi Leonard.
Paul George looking like he's one of the Oscars.
Right.
The fuck was that outfit?
All right.
It's opening night.
I get it.
Yeah.
Wasn't he wearing a tuxedo?
Like a fucking shimmery tuxedo?
Whatever.
That's fine.
There was also a new look for the NBA's, the headwear of the players.
Yes.
This is a thing I've noticed as a man losing their hair.
And as your hairline starts running for the border of the back of your skull.
Right.
You know, the headband can be your best friend.
Can obscure your hairline.
Okay.
Just like these hats do.
Right.
And I suspect, I don't know what it is, but the NBA headbands seem thicker than they have over.
They've gotten thicker.
Thicker, like wider.
The width of them.
They used to be like you'd see in the 80s aerobics videos.
Like kind of a little head.
That's what we thought a headband was.
We saw that shit that people were rocking in the 80s and 90s.
And then we got like nearly full on beanies that they're wearing like a muffler.
Right.
Because I'm like, is because Nike's making a lot of the accessories now,
are they accommodating LeBron James' weird hairline?
Right.
Because part of me believes it.
Yeah.
He's like one of the star players.
He needs the headband.
He needs the coverage.
Because the plugs aren't working that great.
Yeah.
Anyway.
Big headband.
The big headband industry.
From Big Headband.
Yeah.
Big Headband.
No one talks about it. headband no one talks about it
who no one talks about it oh yeah except for i think it's just me and joe rogan right now
i really have our eyes open to this shit but yeah there's something about it too i just i
because i remember when i was rocking on the headbands when i had a healthier head of hair
uh in the early 2000s they were they were thin they were a lot thinner like jason ter, when he was rocking a headband, he'll be like, what the fuck is this?
A nice bandage?
Yeah, Jason Terry's headbands were very thin.
Anyway.
Boogie Cousins rocked some very thin headbands.
But yeah, it's almost like they stretched the same amount of fabric out because it's
like a very thin but wide headband.
Yeah.
Well, for a while, they were rocking like the bandana.
Right.
Like, what was it?
Wasn't Jimmy Butler wearing one? Yeah. And then they made him take it off. They were calling
it something. I forget. Like the karate headband with the knot in the back. Like the tie back.
Yeah. Like get your Nadal on. Yeah. You know what I mean? So they are regulating headbands in the
NBA. Just not the width. Yep. But hey, look know I salute the I salute the bald kings
of the NBA
yeah
and LeBron looked a little
like a step slow
yeah look
it's the first
it's the first game
first game
come on man
come on
AD looked good though
yeah AD looked good
Kawhi is a
robot
in Japanese
Kawhi means
like scary
yeah
so think about that
they knew what they were doing when they named that dude.
All right.
Let's check in with Mangazi real quick.
Oh, yeah.
Cuba Gooding Jr. has now been indicted on another sexual misconduct charge.
This is a third woman.
There's also this footage that recently, I think it's been around for a while,
but only recently made its way to the mainstream.
I may have been just out of nowhere.
I don't know.
This clip.
This is Cuba Gooding Jr. at a club, gets on mic.
They're like, get that dude over here.
It's Cuba Gooding Jr.
Hey, everyone, Cuba Gooding Jr.
Why don't you say something, Cuba Gooding Jr.?
This is what he says.
Hold on. Bring that man he says. Hold on.
Bring that man up here.
Hold on.
Somebody suck that baby's dick.
Somebody suck that baby's dick.
Yeah.
What?
In what context, sir?
What, sir?
I believe every, I mean, wow. What the fuck? I don every... Wow.
I don't even know what to say about that.
It sounds like a voicemail before a rap song.
Yeah.
You have one message at 8.43pm.
Somebody suck that baby's dick!
You cue the beat.
Yeah.
Also, Nelly also had to settle with an accuser
of some sexual assault accuser in the UK, too.
So what the fuck is going on?
Anyway.
Yeah.
Because Cuba Getting Junior, at first, it was like this one like surveillance tape that people were pointing to that like people were like, oh, God.
Yeah, he's getting weird and handsy.
Yeah.
And then multiple people have been coming out. And then actually on that Twitter thread that had that video, other women who are like,
I've been in a nightclub with Cuba getting junior and he's a sexual assaulting trash.
Like he was squeezing my butt and doing all kinds of weird shit saying, can I do a line
off your butt?
Yeah.
Yikes.
Anyway, snow dogs to that.
Yeah.
It seems like he's just hammered.
Like every time you see him, there's a video of him a couple years ago interrupting Aziz's set
where he went on stage when Aziz was performing.
He was like, you're pretty funny, was giving him feedback on his set.
He went up on stage to tell him?
Yeah, yeah.
So, oh, he's just one of those dark drinkers.
Yeah, he's gone.
A wily energy.
The black box stops recording the flight information.
And you might as well be Oceanic Flight 613. where he's gone a while. The black box stops recording the flight information. Right.
And you might as well
be Oceanic Flight 613.
He's just waking up
in the morning like,
oh, I hope the baby's
OK.
What have I done?
Yeah, that's that's
what we got.
I'm sorry.
Flight 815.
God, I really showed
my eyes.
You look like a fool
from Lost.
All right.
Let's talk about our
new national monument.
The Joker stairs are now a tourist destination.
It's an actual location in the Bronx.
It is the scene from The Joker where he's dancing down the steps
after he has stopped taking his medication and is now a good dancer.
And they play that Gary Glitter.
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na, na, na, na, taking note of the stairs, like where it is, put it on Google Maps, designated it as a religious site on Google Maps.
What the fuck?
And now it's basically a full fledged tourist attraction.
Yeah, the photos of the video clips I've seen, it's almost like you can't actually achieve the thing you'd even want by going there.
Right.
Because there's so many people.
Like you kind of want an uninterrupted, like a clear frame when it's just you on the steps.
But it's like 70 people on the steps.
Yeah, people are showing up at 9 in the morning now, which that's early.
And it's weird.
Like when you hear people being interviewed are just like, you know, someone's just so powerful about these steps, man.
Yeah.
Look, I get being a fan of a movie.
But it's funny because on Desus and Mero's Showtime show, they were like, dude.
Mero was saying, he's like, how dare they take tourist photos on a place I once smoked angel dust.
And he's like, yeah.
And Desus was like, I've seen people get thrown down those fucking steps and now it's like a
full on tourist site and AOC spoke
out against it right? I believe
so. She said it's good that they're getting
like attention to
the Bronx and like that's cool
but that people should
maybe be careful
in that specific location
and that she doesn't want it like fully crowded but yeah
apparently that location during the actual filming of that scene joaquin phoenix reported that
teenagers uh from a nearby apartment were yelling fuck you, Phoenix.
Yo, your dancing is trash.
I kind of like that they knew who it was, too.
Fuck you, Phoenix.
Right.
Wow.
I mean, you know, there you go.
You're in the Bronx and you're trying to dance all the steps.
You're going to get some smoke from the nearby people in the buildings.
Yeah. I just, I'm trying to think of any place from a film
i would be that excited to go to like truly because like there was something you can see the
the reverence yeah that people are treating those stare that those steps with right and i'm trying
to think of any if a film has been like you know what what, bro? We gotta fucking go there. Right.
It's also not like
good or interesting choreography.
It's not like impactful.
Right.
Trash dancing.
Yeah.
But yeah, I don't know.
Like what if you,
what's the,
like if you went to the real Amityville?
Amityville?
Oh, Amity Beach?
Yeah.
Amity Beach, whatever.
What's the fucking shit from Jaws?
It's Martha's Vineyard.
I've been there, man.
But is it called Amity,
is that the real place or did they change the name? Amity Island is not a real island. it's Martha's Vineyard I've been there man but is it called Amity is that the real place
or did they change the name
Amity Island
is not a real island
it's Martha's Vineyard
oh see
yeah
but which
yeah
or maybe that weird
sea world
from the other Jaws
that had the
when the
the shark
right
that would be dope
I would love to see that
but I don't
I don't think that place
actually exists
real Jurassic Park
maybe
like
the island from Jurassic Park is La Nubar yeah it doesn't I don't think that place actually exists. Real Jurassic Park, maybe? Like the island from Jurassic Park.
Isla Nubar?
Yeah.
It doesn't, I don't think, really exist.
No, because they say it's off the coast of Costa Rica.
And I've asked many people if it's a real place.
And I was laughed at.
And yeah, they say there's not really dinosaurs.
I was in Sacramento once and accidentally saw the blue house from Lady Bird.
And I was like, oh!
I like screamed.
Really?
Yeah, it was very cute.
Did it feel religious? Yes. It did? Yeah, I had a seizure. I was like, oh, I like screamed. Really? Yeah, it was very cute. Did it feel religious?
Yes.
It did?
Yeah, I had a seizure.
I saw God.
Yeah, fantastic.
Yeah, you started speaking in tongues.
You're like, I was prophesying from up there.
What about the Rocky Steps, Jack?
Don't care.
You don't care.
But that's just because I've always-
Oh, yeah, you're also in Philly too.
It's not familiar.
It's familiar to you.
It is familiar.
And yeah, it's just too, it's already,
and it's like saying
uh would you be blown away by the statue of liberty from ghostbusters 2 it's like no that's
a national and are we using a nintendo controller but like the art museum stairs in philly are
pretty well-known monument already so yeah well i know anna when you went there for that podcast
thing you you pay proper respects up the stairs. Right. So, hey, somebody respects Rocky.
Yeah, the only thing I feel like places where I would feel emotional are probably have to do with sports, sadly.
Really?
Yeah.
Like what?
The first time I went to Highbury.
Don't know what that is.
Okay.
Well, that's where Arsenal Football Club.
Got it.
Storied.
Yeah.
Thank you.
Storied a footballing ground.
That felt really good. But that's the only thing I was like, damn, man, this is where itoried. Yeah. Thank you. Storied football on ground. That felt really good.
But that's the only thing like I was like, damn, man, like this is where it all happened.
Yeah.
This is it.
And Once Upon a Time in Hollywood is really satisfying when they do like the neon signs.
Yeah.
Arclight.
We love it.
We know.
Yeah.
Right.
Yeah.
Once Upon a Time in Hollywood is actually a good one.
They do a lot of like real world locations.
But it's funny.
I was even like when they went to Casa Vega to get all fucked up.
I'm like, I've been going to Casa Vega. So I don't know. It's like, locations. But it's funny. I was even like, when they went to Casa Vega to get all fucked up, I'm like, I've been
going to Casa Vega.
Right.
So I don't know.
It's like, you know, it's all, I guess it all depends.
It all depends.
Yeah.
Oh, if I could maybe go, I don't know, something from Starship Troopers, if that existed in
real life, I'd get excited for that.
Yeah.
There are some places from the original Star Wars, like those, like.
Like where Tatooine was supposed to be.
Yeah.
Desert little like pod houses are real.
That would be dope to just happen upon.
In New Mexico?
I don't think they are.
I think they're in North Africa somewhere,
like in Morocco or something.
Or Algeria?
I don't know.
So Vulture actually sent a reporter out to visit the stairs,
and they found a ton of tourists.
Tunisia, sorry.
But a lot of them weren't even fans of the movie. They were just like into
the meme.
Oh, so it was just for the moam.
Right. Yeah. Damn.
Which suggests it'll probably go away
pretty soon.
I mean, yeah.
Hey, look, you know, if you're just
trying to hop in on the viral trend,
do some good fucking
do some good parody shots man right because
i saw a lot of people doing like the weirdest most awkward poses trying to like mimic the joke i was
like okay uh-huh but this is i guess it's also like maybe this truly is like this one of those
manifestations of sort of where societies come right where it's there are people who don't even
actually engage with the original artwork that
you know that drew people there they're there because of the social media likes and attention
it will garner them right and that's what the draw is might not even be an emotional attachment
to the film it's like now i'm about to get like 40 likes on this right so it's also interesting
because i often like reference movies i realize I've never seen, but it's
in the lexicon where I hear people talk about it.
Right, right.
Or if you hear a quote from it, I will say it without knowing.
I'm referencing a larger scheme.
Yeah.
Like what?
I constantly quote Fight Club, and I don't realize it until five months later.
It's really scary.
You've been doing it for five years.
Wait, what do you mean?
What do you say?
I will say weapons formed against me will not prosper because like that's what i've
heard people say and then be like oh fight club right and then i'm like oh god i've got to stop
of course it's fight because it's like signifying a larger incel culture that i'm not aware of right
they're like yeah you fuck god you're on like a tinder date whoa dude she gets it weapons formed
against me will not prosper.
Is that a fight call?
You find yourself saying that a lot?
Yeah, hold on.
What's going on?
That is like some hardcore shit.
Yeah, what I do is I black out and I get these fist fights underground.
That's pretty dope.
Oh, other famous stairs, though, where I went to college, the Exorcist stairs are right there.
And people, that's a big tourist
destination yeah someone made the point that in movies
this year stairs have been resembling
like class structures so like in
us when she goes downstairs and in parasite
similarly when they go down the stairs
it's like a big theme in movies
right now right yeah huh that's
interesting hey wake the people up
you know yeah
anyway oh wait that's that's from the Bible actually Isaiah That's interesting. Hey, wake the people up, you know? Yeah. Huh.
Anyways.
Oh, wait, that's from the Bible, actually.
Isaiah 54, 17.
Wake the people up.
No weapon that is formed against you shall prosper. That's the most embarrassing thing that's ever...
Actually, it's so good to meet one of my fellow Christian sisters.
That's even worse.
The King James Version.
Yeah.
I mean, get beat up one day.
You're like, yeah, you know, I love that other hot take from Fight Club.
Thou shall not kill.
No, no.
For God loved the world so much that he gave his only begotten son, I mean, Tyler Durden.
WWTD.
Well, that was an old blog site.
Right.
What would Tyler Durden do?
What happened to that guy? Yikes. he's okay well maddie it has been a pleasure having you
thank you so much it's been so fun uh where can people find you um i'm on twitter at personally
rich okay yeah that's good that's me all right personally yep and i run a show at lyric that
actually jamie loft is is gonna do um called You're Gonna Love This. Okay. Yeah.
Nice. Dang, really?
Yeah. November 8th.
Okay, come through. Hit it up.
See Jamie. See Maddie.
And is there a tweet you've been enjoying?
Yes, I just pulled this up.
A tweet from
K. Austin Collins. Watchman?
Absolutely not.
Or watchmen, rather, question mark. Watch man? Absolutely not. Or watch men rather, question mark.
Watch men?
Absolutely not.
That's good.
Miles, where can people find you?
Twitter, Instagram, at milesagrey.
Tweet I like is from at nice underscore n underscore normal.
It says, I fucked a guy that's now dead from being old.
Oh, God.
That's such a weird sentence.
And another one from Dana Donnelly, at Dana Don Lee.
One time I hooked up with a guy who at 4 a.m. said, okay, here's the deal.
If you leave now, I'll call your Uber.
But if you sleep over, you have to call your own Uber.
And then I dated him for an entire year.
I love Dana so much.
She's great.
Yeah.
A couple tweets I've been enjoying
Alana Hope Levinson
tweeted
emotionally unavailable
people love texting
in all lowercase
wow
and then Nick Weiger
tweeted this
said re-upping
Alvin Gentry's story
about meeting
Buzz Aldrin
from 7 seconds
or less
Alvin Gentry
is a
NBA basketball coach so the story is a quote from Alvin Gentry is an NBA basketball coach.
So the story is a quote from Alvin Gentry.
So it's a full moon, beautiful night, says Gentry.
And I'm trying to think of something to say to this famous guy,
and finally I say, Buzz, damn, you ever look up and see the moon
and think to yourself how people stare at it all the time
and write poems about it, and you walked on it?
You walked on it you walked on it and buzz looks
at me and shrugs and says no fuck no wow no man fuck no man i believe you get your ass kicked for
saying something like that no somebody ever told you you got the case of the mondays
no i think that's exactly what I pictured
as Dedrick Bader in Office Space.
No, man.
Fuck no.
He is a fucking wild card, that Buzz Aldrin.
I know, Buzz Aldrin.
Watch out for him.
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My favorite unit of measure.
Oh, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
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