The Daily Zeitgeist - The Weekly Zeitgeist 1 (Best of 11/13/17-11/17/17)

Episode Date: November 18, 2017

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Starting point is 00:02:13 My name is Jack O'Brien. And, yeah, this is a highlight reel of some of our best moments. It's a show made up of some of our favorite moments from the five episodes we released this week. some of our favorite moments from the five episodes we released this week. So if you missed one of the episodes, if you are just looking to catch up, or maybe if you're recommending the show to a friend, this might be a good one to start them out with. So, yeah, hope you enjoy it. And without further ado, this is the Weekly Zeitgeist. Jamie, what is something that's out there in the Zeitgeist that you think is incorrect based on your personal experience as a human being?
Starting point is 00:03:00 Yeah, I think that people have been saying for a long time hamsters are a pet for children, but I think that they're a pet for single adults. All right. Wait, that they're inappropriate for children? Like a children can't handle having a hamster? No, that's like walk me through this it's like it's it's i think it's like sort of an entry-level pet for kids like i have i have no so many like people who when i say let's let's just say in theory i have a hamster that i'm literally obsessed with and uh and and every time i tell people that they're like oh yeah i had a hamster in the fourth grade but then i accidentally lost it and it burned up in the sun. Or like terrible things happen to hamsters in the hands of children. Every hamster story I know.
Starting point is 00:03:33 And like it's just about a child doing something terrible to a hamster or losing it. Or the hamster doing – usually it's the hamster doing something terrible to itself. You know who should be taking care of hamsters? Hamsters? Adults. Adult women. Yeah. There you go. I'm a hamster lady, not. Adult women. Yeah. Yeah. There you go.
Starting point is 00:03:45 I'm a hamster lady, not a cat lady. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. I'm dignified. My hamster was literally booked at the Hollywood Improv last weekend.
Starting point is 00:03:52 That's good hamster care. Legitimately booked? Legitimately booked on the main stage. Under which name? She got bumped. I don't know. Theo Vaughn does
Starting point is 00:04:02 a hamster joke and they were like, oh, Jamie, you got a hamster. Bring your hamster and then we'll show Theo Vaughn the hamsterster joke, and they were like, oh, Jamie, you got a hamster. Bring your hamster, and then we'll show Theo Vaughn the hamster. It'll be very exciting. And I was like, oh, cool. My hamster's booked on the main stage before I get fucking booked.
Starting point is 00:04:15 So I brought my hamster. You'll get your time. You'll get your time. Dude, my hamster will, too. Yeah, exactly. Let's get into the news. The Justice League's out today, you guys. This is a big event movie, big tentpole.
Starting point is 00:04:28 Came out, it is November the 17th, and everybody's been marking that day on their calendar. Not me. Justice League Day. I'm all about Marvel. This is the tentpole movie that most snuck up on people, I think. People were like, wait, it's out now? Right. I feel like Wonder Woman just came out just came i mean it came out in june and also it's a weird time to drop a movie that is clearly going to be critically reviled uh because all their movies
Starting point is 00:04:55 are except for wonder woman and they didn't bring the wonder woman director to do this uh and they're dropping it like at the beginning of Oscar season. Right. It's not a good time. Yeah. It seems like they should have been showing us previews for this, and then it's coming out in June or something. It was crazy, because this was like a slow-boil, obsessive PR campaign.
Starting point is 00:05:17 I feel like the last two Comic-Cons, they would show the things, and people were like, ah, losing their shit. Right. And yeah, now we're here, and I feel like that that momentum has definitely subsided a bit right i also it's just weird that aquaman is like just being his superpower is now like just getting thrown around by stuff like because he's not like there's no
Starting point is 00:05:38 water like in the main battle like so i mean this is all just based on the preview but it just seems like his whole thing is they're just like all right let's throw aquaman at someone or something um anyways uh so the rotten tomatoes rotten tomatoes continues to be a magnet for controversy for being just a site that collects reviews and like has no editorial voice other than collecting reviews and uh in my conspiracy theory also like sort of changing whether something is fresh or rotten uh depending on what's the number where it becomes fresh at 60 i believe really all right well that's generous i don't know i mean i i just i just ask the other people around town i'm like what do you think you know i mean most movies i don't I'm not too excited to see anyway.
Starting point is 00:06:26 Yeah. You're a man of the people. That or just like, I just get a lot of anxiety in a movie theater. Yeah. I don't know how I want to frame it quite yet, but... I fucking... That's my favorite place to be in the world.
Starting point is 00:06:38 Movie theater? Movie theater. Love movies. Well, I'm back into movie theaters now because at Universal, every seat is a recliner. I'm here for that kind of movie. I could probably endure any terrible film if I'm in a nearly horizontal state.
Starting point is 00:06:53 I'm too fidgety. I'm a talker. I'm bad. In the movie? Yeah, I'm a big talker. And every time I try to find someone, I'm actively seeking a movie talker in the Los Angeles area to see movies with me because people hate it. What are you talking about? Are you like, wait, what's happening right there?
Starting point is 00:07:09 Or are you just like, yeah, so what's up? Oh, so he the Iron Man? Well, because every movie is a superhero movie and they're all interconnected. So there's a lot of leaning and there's a lot of questions. I'm like, what's this guy? His name is Chris what? Because they're all named Chris. Yeah, that's true. There's a lot of questions. Right, right, right. I'm like, what's this guy? His name is Chris what? Because they're all named Chris. Yeah, that's true.
Starting point is 00:07:27 And it's very confusing. So anyways, Rotten Tomatoes did not reveal that the Justice League movie had a rotten score until... Of what, like 39%? 40% at the moment. It went up 1%. Right. So they delayed the the reveal they said it was because they are launching their own sort of siskel and ebert show where during the show it
Starting point is 00:07:52 is revealed what the count on the movie is uh which seems like it's just going to drive a lot of traffic to metacritic um like it's right it's an interesting idea to like sort of make it an event where you like find out if something's rotten or fresh. But Metacritic is already a superior, like, aggregator of reviews. Alligator. Alligator. It's a superior alligator of reviews. And so I don't know.
Starting point is 00:08:17 But the conspiracy theory is that they're both owned by the same giant mega company. I think it's Time Warner. Yeah. So, like, Time Warner owns Warner Brothers, and they also own Time Inc., which owns Rotten Tomatoes. And so the idea is that because they noticed that Justice League was not getting good reviews, they were like, all right, we'll create this show just to hold the score back from the public. But I think it'll do fine, I'm sure. Because it's one of those movies, I think, just for the spectacle, people are just going to be like, whoa, all of them in one movie?
Starting point is 00:08:56 Yeah, and logistically, people are going to need stuff to do with their families this coming week. They're like, oh, how can I not talk to these people for like, I mean, this movie's got to be 45 hours long also oh my god yeah batman versus superman was so fucking long i tried watching it three times and i fell asleep i'm not even joking 20 minutes in each time i don't know how that happened and it's not look i know i'm like team marvel but like i honestly wanted to try and watch it all the way through because i like the idea of Batman vs. Superman. Just couldn't do it.
Starting point is 00:09:26 Even Wonder Woman, which is a great movie that I really liked, is too long. They're all too long. One man on the street piece of reporting that we can do for you folks being out in Los Angeles. Two of the three people on mic here, I don't know, I actually haven't asked Miles, have run into the actor who plays uh aquaman also plays uh cal drago oh jason momoa yeah yeah i met him like before he did game of thrones and he was just like my friend's neighbor really around that dude is just like yeah i saw him tuesday i think he used to live near ucb like franklin it feels like you're in a room with a
Starting point is 00:10:04 character from a movie when you're around that dude he's like giant and it feels like you're in a room with a character from a movie when you're around that dude he's like giant and looks exactly like he does in the movies he is uh oppressively hot yeah just yo his eyelashes i mean i don't know if it's latisse or genetics but i think it's genetics yeah i think that i think he's just accidentally like that. Why is everybody so weird around me? So, yeah. So there's that. But it seems like the movie's not that great. We'll see.
Starting point is 00:10:34 Should one of us go see it? Yeah, I mean, we're going to have to. Other movies that are out this weekend, Roman J, Israel, Esquire, Denzel. My mom can't stop talking about that movie. She loves it? She saw it, yeah. It My mom can't stop talking about that movie. She loves it? She saw it, yeah. It's hovering at 55, which makes it rotten.
Starting point is 00:10:51 Well, who knows? I think she's also a Denzel fan. Yeah, who's not a Denzel fan? You have to see it. Especially in the mom community. Yeah, but she'll ride with Denzel, I think, to the end of the earth. It doesn't matter what the movie is. It's like, oh, it's great. Yeah, it's great.
Starting point is 00:11:03 Man on Fire? Yeah, beautiful. Man on Fire? Yeah, beautiful. Man on Fire is great. That real stinky one, the taking of Pelham 1, 2, 3. My mom has that on DVD. Whoa. On heavy rotation. That is a lot.
Starting point is 00:11:17 And the new Pixar movie is, unsurprisingly, at 97% that early reviews are in, and it's apparently... Which one's that one? Very good. Coco. It is about Day of the Dead type. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. It has a Day of the Dead aesthetic on the poster. All of my information on this movie is coming from the poster.
Starting point is 00:11:39 What else can you tell me? Right. There's a guitar that features heavily. Anyways, we're going to take a quick break and we'll be right back. What's something you think is underrated? Underrated? I really like your first one. Ryan Reynolds?
Starting point is 00:11:58 Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So I'm going to go ahead and take a step back and say that I think Ryan Reynolds is finally appropriately rated. Because I've been a fan of Ryan's for so long. And when I saw Just Friends when I was a kid, I was like, where's his eight movie deal? Right, right. This is the funniest, most charismatic, amazing. And I remember being like, this guy is a star. And no one realized it. This guy is a star. And no one realized it.
Starting point is 00:12:25 This guy is a star. You're saying that like as a kid. Yeah. This kid's got something. This kid's got something. Get him an A picture deal. Yeah. I thought he was,
Starting point is 00:12:35 I was expecting so many more comedy films from Ryan Reynolds. Right. And I don't think he got appropriately rated until Deadpool. When Deadpool came out, everyone was like, oh, this guy's a star. I'm like, I've been saying that for years. He doesn't disappoint, honestly.
Starting point is 00:12:52 It's just always quality content. And then I personally think that because he's so attractive, we're just like, ah, he's some hot dude. But no, he's very talented and very funny. Do you think it's because he's so handsome people aren't taking him seriously as like a comedian and be like that's a comedian and now they're like no you're the handsome guy yes yeah i think i think so i think because i thought just friends was phenomenal i thought he was so funny right and people were just like oh it's a hot dude playing a hot day it's like no right that guy's actually really funny he's got comedic chops he's got and he proved those chops in Deadpool comedically and as an action star.
Starting point is 00:13:27 So I don't know. I think he's correctly rated now. Yeah. But I think for a long time he was underrated. I feel very weird about like – I have some weird feelings about Ryan Reynolds because I'm like – I don't think his wife is good enough for him, which makes me feel like – Blake Lively? Yeah, Blake Lively.
Starting point is 00:13:42 I'm like, yeah, she's not like – I agree. Which makes me feel like... Yeah, Blake Lively. I'm like, yeah, she's not like... I agree. Because she did like... She had a fashion line or something that was all about plantation style, southern style shit. And she wanted to get married on a plantation and shit.
Starting point is 00:13:57 I was just like, yo, she doesn't seem... I don't know. Like Reynolds appropriate? Who do you think is Reynolds... Who is worthy of Ryan? Alanis Morissette. What? Wasn't that their first?
Starting point is 00:14:08 Wasn't he married to her at first? What? I don't know about that. Yeah. Ex-fiance. Wow. Ex-fiance. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:15 I had no idea. Yeah. So, I mean, that's what I'm saying. Like, he's like the sort of dude who's like, he seems smart enough to like. I think you should be with Ryan. Jack. Like, I'm not going to say it, but. say it but no i know i know people have said that you deserve i play basketball you toss the lob up now let me tell you you should be with ryan reynolds all right it was december 2019
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Starting point is 00:15:40 How do you feel about biscuits? Hi, I'm Akilah Hughes, and I'm so excited about my new podcast, Rebel Spirit, where I head back to my hometown in Kentucky and try to convince my high school to change their racist mascot, the Rebels, into something everyone in the South loves, the biscuits. I was a lady rebel. Like, what does that even mean? The Boone County Rebels will stay the Boone County Rebels with the image of the biscuits. It's right here in black and white in the prints.
Starting point is 00:16:05 A lion. An individual that came to the school saying that God sent him to talk to me about the mascot switch. As a leader, you choose hills that you want to die on. Why would we want to be the losing team? I'd just take all the other stuff out of it. On the segregation academies, when civil rights said that we need to integrate public schools, these charter schools were exempt from that. Bigger than a flag or mascot.
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Starting point is 00:18:41 like holding him to the sword and then Republicans sounding outrage, but asking like just really basic questions with the tone of outrage. Right. It's like, Mr. Sessions, you would agree that a FISA court order would, and then just like tumble in.
Starting point is 00:18:53 It's just something about unmasking, which is like a total non thing. Right. While like other people like Karen Bass were like, Oh, what about this report on the black identity extremists? Oh yeah. I think we actually have audio, don't we?
Starting point is 00:19:06 Yeah, so, like, for example, I think, you know, Hakeem Jeffries from New York was asking, you know, like, you know, why don't you, you know, lay to rest some of these accusations against you? And, you know, Jeff Sessions had a pretty coherent response. Now, who's responsible? I say, who's responsible for this unwarranted attack on my person? So, you know. Approved. I think we should, yeah, disclaimer, I think C-SPAN owns that clip. Right.
Starting point is 00:19:32 But yeah, I think we're allowed to. Yeah, so he was definitely, he was definitely, got very animated at times. So, you know, because Jeff Sessions, his testimony has evolved over the course of this year. Although he said, my story has never changed. I've just added to it, which I think functionally means it's changing. It is not. Pay attention, boy. I'm cutting, but you ain't bleeding.
Starting point is 00:19:55 Exactly. And I should have just took that as an answer. But, you know, I'm a snowflake cuck. Is that not specific enough for you? Yeah, exactly. I'm a snowflake cuck. That's not specific enough for you? Yeah, exactly. Yeah, it's to the point that I'm almost tired of seeing him sort of gasping for answers.
Starting point is 00:20:16 Yeah, there was a lot of... A lot of vocal fry. I can't... This one is very interesting to watch slowly play out because that's how justice moves real slow. So he's been stuck in this quicksand. Jeff Sessions represents what I miss about the political world that I came up in, that I deeply disagree with his point of view. I think his views on the world are detestable and really kind of gross. But I respect him as an intelligent person.
Starting point is 00:20:44 And I think he actually has some respect for the same institutions I respect. But it's we just have a different worldview. I mean, I feel like the Trumps represent this disgusting, stupid and like anarchy, destroy everything good or bad. They're just not I am not used to engaging with that kind of perspective i missed the george w bush days where i just totally disagreed with a person politically but didn't actually believe they were out to destroy us all because somebody called him old like right that i missed that and it's amazing to watch sessions the old scott old style republican caught in the old style trap of justice right he's not stupid jeff Sessions is actually a pretty, like,
Starting point is 00:21:25 one-on-one is a decent person. Just ask Al Franken. He is incredibly intelligent, and he knows that there's no getting out. He can't get his legs out. He got his feet in by just endorsing, and then the sand just started creeping up. And the last time he testified, he knew he was
Starting point is 00:21:41 waist-deep and it was over, and now it's just his little dumb head sticking up like, well, I don't remember. Like, yeah. Right. Yeah. It's all about not remembering. I do not recall is. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:50 Yeah. We'll be on his tombstone. Yeah. Right. I've been in Georgia for two months. Atlanta is great, except that it's in Georgia. I had so much fun out there and it really is a beautiful place. But when I think about sessions, I can't help think of thinking about what it was like to be there. Like, I'm gay. You can read me from 100 yards away. It's pretty obvious. I'm a big, giant lady with tattoos and short hair. Like, you know, I feel like I was throwing up some red flags when it came in the South. And I try not to approach people with, like, fear in my heart that they're going to do something terrible to me. But, like, it's hard not to approach people with like fear in my heart that they're going to do something terrible to me, but like it's hard not to, which is part of why immediately after the election, I got a tiny dog.
Starting point is 00:22:29 And I take that tiny dog with me everywhere. It's a very positive relationship. It's done wonderful things for my mental health, blah, blah, blah. But in the South and everywhere I travel in a red state, I just let her lead by like six inches. And that determines how people are going to treat me more than anything they might assume about my lifestyle or my person. So it would be all these little old ladies, like, walking in rural Georgia with my tiny dog, and people I would be terrified of, especially older women, like, hardened, southern, older women, who might look at me and think, what the fuck are you doing in my town?
Starting point is 00:23:02 Look at my tiny dog and just melt into butterpats. Just like,el look at this tiny sweet how old is this little oh you're okay oh she's just a darling i would vote against your rights in a heartbeat look at your little pressure you're gonna burn in hell bless your heart look at your tiny dog and it's so confusing because these are people jeff sessions reminds me of these people there's kindness they know how to be kind they know how to meet you to your face and make you feel welcome right and i don't know if they understand like that that yeah but i the person you're being nice to and the person who you don't want me to get married and you think I'm going to die in some hellfire or whatever. Like, how is who how do you do that? Like, how are you so kind at the micro level and so cruel at the macro level?
Starting point is 00:23:52 Yeah, it's a very confusing dichotomy. And I'm still struggling with it as I travel around the country, which I do for stupid work, telling dumb jokes. I just don't. It baffles me. And I'm so thankful for my tiny idiot dog, because for the most part, what I see first in people is kindness. And it sort of dissipates some of the fear. But, like, I don't understand the Jeff Sessions who is the guy whose wife knits blankets for the new children, like, for anybody in the Senate who has a grandkid or whatever. Right.
Starting point is 00:24:18 And who's the guy who's like, I don't know, black people are bad, I guess. Right. Like, who are you? How do you do that? Right. Like, I don't know, black people are bad, I guess. Like, who are you? How do you do that?
Starting point is 00:24:30 How could you cradle a newborn black baby from somebody that you know in the Senate and like treasure it? And then that same day pass some dumb loans like, I don't know, they smoke crack and I guess they're bad. Right, right, right. Yeah, the South is a really beautiful, like mysterious, interesting place with there's a lot of hateful people there, too. The isn't different right have some frito pie i go to church i believe you're an awful sinner like it's not it's still frito pie though right i just want to translate the kindness that is all over this country on a micro level and encourage it to get a little bigger go a little macro with it do you think it has anything to do just with the fact that sometimes, like, you know, meeting a gay person, it's like, and it's abstract to them. So it's easier to just sort of rail against them.
Starting point is 00:25:10 Never understood that like I did before I drove through rural Georgia. There is nothing there. It's gorgeous land, really beautiful. No advertisements, no billboards, no noise, no nothing except for signs for churches. That's all that's there. Big billboards for churches, signs pointing you to a church, and this picturesque, super rural landscape. I've never been in a place that looks less like television.
Starting point is 00:25:30 They go home to this beautiful place. They open their door, and then they sit down like the rest of us, and they watch stupid TV all day just like we all do. But their world is so different from the world that we show them in media. I live in Los Angeles. When I walk outside, it looks like 10 shows that i could watch at any given moment like down the street they film part of twin peaks across the street from my house like everything looks weird and surreal in real life to me right but i never understood what conservative meant more than
Starting point is 00:25:58 when i was driving around in those towns recognizing what people are trying to conserve right oh i get it. They're conserving the past. A gay bar here would be seriously different because an Applebee's here would be controversial. Like, I get it. You got a ways to go. Right. But it wouldn't harm you.
Starting point is 00:26:14 But I understand how it would be like that all, everything you're showing me is different and scary every time you turn on the television. It's like, oh, yeah, I get it. Yeah, Modern Family is probably a pretty alarming program for you right it's i didn't that never resonated as truly i always thought conservatives were just kind of like i did have a bias or some assumption that it was some kind of meanness or like right something they just didn't get very which is why they hate us liberal elites or whatever they don't get it they don't understand they haven't read howard's in or whatever but i drove through where they live and saw who they are.
Starting point is 00:26:48 And like, yeah, we're, you know, the media certainly projects a different picture of what everyday life is like from what I saw there. Yeah, for sure. And I can see it being like, don't tell us we're dumb. Don't tell us we're idiots. Don't tell us we're bumpkins. Right, right, right. They're not any dumber that's for sure
Starting point is 00:27:06 totally not they're they're very smart people person for person way nicer right that's true like i when you first meet them like they are willing to give you the benefit of the doubt that's it just about i mean i i did a thing in a trump rally where i was talking to people outside and no everyone was kind at first until you begin talking about politics. So like most people, they will still, they have that basic humanity and everyone does. And again, it's just, again, people have very
Starting point is 00:27:33 different worldviews and it's easy to vilify or create an other when you haven't really met these people in the flesh. And it's on both sides, you know, the same for the way some liberals tend to just sort of look at conservatives like, oh they're fucking dumb and blah blah blah it's like no like we're we're people just coming from very different realities and we're just trying to this is the process of trying to reconcile these two things absolutely it's picking your poison in los
Starting point is 00:27:56 angeles you could have an interaction that's like get out of my way bitch i believe you should have every right that i do in the south it would, please come in. I would love to offer you dinner. And also your future is eternal hellfire. Like, I don't know. I don't know. Very confusing. So the Philippines is one of the most social media involved countries in the world. Like they're very plugged in from a social media perspective.
Starting point is 00:28:26 And Duterte is also, like, really plugged in on social media. And I don't know. They both have, like, there's just so many similarities between them. Like, a journalist in the Philippines, like, a couple years ago was like, there's no such thing as a slow news day in the Philippines since Duterte arrived. Then it's like, yeah, that is exactly what Trump's rise was like. They both have like a deep abiding hatred for President Obama based on like a single perceived personal slight. Like Obama had a single meeting with Duterte and he like got really pissed about it's not totally clear.
Starting point is 00:29:03 He spends all his weekends on his home island which is very like reminiscent of mar-a-lago it's like uncommon for the filipino leader to do that but he is like no this is where i'm comfortable um so i i feel like i don't know i it did make me wonder is this like a personality type that is just going to have an advantage in our era of social media just like by being sort of just filling up all channels with their you know outsized personality defects will that just be sort of how things go until we alter whatever the algorithms or something? It's hard to know. Right. But I know like initially he had a really high approval rating, like 91 percent.
Starting point is 00:29:53 But now, like, I think they're what, like, like, like 16 months or so in to his presidency. Like his support is starting to wane because they're seeing like this is not. Well, I mean, I think so. saying like this is not well i mean i think so like to answer your question yeah like uh a charismatic rich piece of shit who doesn't really do anything and only cares about his own interests and is in power just to accumulate more power and money like that that's not a new type but it's certainly aided by the era of social media because now it's um it's harder to cover things up so instead of just being quiet about the murders and shit you do, you just yell a bunch about other stuff and distract people constantly so they don't notice that you're exploiting them. Right.
Starting point is 00:30:31 Or you yell about your own murders but make yourself sound tough so people buy it. Again, in this Time article, it's a very unique ecosystem that he's operating in because, know for example the former president joseph estrada he was sentenced to like life in prison for plundering like like almost like more over 80 million dollars and then he was pardoned by his successor and now he's the mayor of manila or at the time of the writing of this article he's now the mayor of manila and it gets like worse there was a congressman uh who was serving two life sentences for raping an 11 year old girl won re-election twice from jail and like was able to play tennis on the court he built in like a maximum security prison okay philippines is next level america yeah it's like it's like so
Starting point is 00:31:18 like you know they're so they're like 10 years ahead of us this culture of impunity is i think is also like you know combining that with his personality type. It just it sort of makes sense. Yeah. Straight up. Trump probably went there to be like, how can I make this happen for me? Right. What do you hook me up, dude?
Starting point is 00:31:34 Yeah, it does. I do worry about him getting some ideas like being like, it's OK. He can't process anything. Right. But going back to the Facebook thing, like the guy who invented loudspeakers and like It's okay. He can't process anything. people were able to project their voices into like huge groups of people was essentially what led to the rise of fascism. So like, I do wonder if we're sort of not paying enough attention to, you know, the role of Facebook and like how social media allows you to just get, uh, allows a person with a big forceful personality to like, get right into people's veins you know yeah
Starting point is 00:32:25 but going back to uh so this specific trip uh it opened with duterte bragging about uh the first time he murdered someone he oh cool so just like prison right said at the age of 16 i killed somebody i stabbed him only because our eyes met uh which which actually kind of sounds like the intro to Liquid Swords. Yeah, Liquid Swords. Fucking Trump probably pooped his diaper. Right. I'm not that tough. That's so cool.
Starting point is 00:32:54 And it ended with Duterte singing a song, like a Filipino love song, that he claimed was requested by Trump. And I think we have audio of that, if I'm not mistaken. It's beautiful, really. Yay! Please don't hurt us. Nikola Nikola Nikola said that was at the request of the president the commander-in-chief of the united states commander-in-chief so this sounds like a david lynch movie like this whole clip it could have come from fucking blue velvet yeah what a terrifying party to be at right now i gotta pretend i like that shit yeah you gotta laugh at that guy's jokes loud
Starting point is 00:34:01 you're the best boss it's like that scene in Sopranos when he looks around and everybody's over-laughing at his jokes. And he's not sure if they're just sycophants or he's actually killing it. What, I'm like a clown to you? Yeah. But yeah, I mean, going back to... Obama would be very careful
Starting point is 00:34:20 about just how he sat or how he shook the hand of another foreign leader because you didn't want to go too far or not far enough in terms of how you conduct yourself on like diplomatic visits and trump is like requesting love songs and having love songs sung to him by a guy who's going to go down in history as like one of the scariest, like most murderous dictators of our time. It's because Trump doesn't look at himself as a representative of the people of the United States or the government of the United States. He walks around like he's like he was voted most popular dude in America.
Starting point is 00:34:56 Right. And that's like his responsibility. He's like, hey, man, we're having a good time. I'll wear this shirt. Oh, yeah. They were matching shirts. That's also worth checking out. I mean, I'm sure that wasn't necessarily his call, but they all are wearing fun matching shirts.
Starting point is 00:35:13 All right, we're going to take a quick break and we'll be right back. How do you feel about biscuits? Hi, I'm Akilah Hughes, and I'm so excited about my new podcast, Rebel Spirit, where I head back to my hometown in Kentucky and try to convince my high school to change their racist mascot, the Rebels, into something everyone in the South loves, the biscuits. I was a lady rebel. Like, what does that even mean? The Boone County Rebels will stay the Boone County Rebels with the image of the biscuits. It's right here in black and white in the prints.
Starting point is 00:35:46 A lion. An individual that came to the school saying that God sent him to talk to me about the mascot switch. As a leader, you choose hills that you want to die on. Why would we want to be the losing team? I'd just take all the other stuff out of it. Segregation academies. When civil rights said that we need to integrate public schools, these charter schools were exempt from that. Bigger than a flag or mascot.
Starting point is 00:36:11 You have to be ready for serious backlash. Listen to Rebel Spirit on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. It was December 2019 when the story blew up. In Green Bay, Wisconsin, former Packers star Kabir Bajabiamila caught up in a bizarre situation. KGB explaining what he believes led to the arrest of his friends at a children's Christmas play. A family man, former NFL player, devout Christian, now cut off from his family and connected to a strange arrest. Christian, now cut off from his family and connected to a strange arrest. I am going to share my journey of how I went from Christianity to now a Hebrew Israelite. I got swept up in Kabir's journey, but this was only the beginning. In a story about faith and football, the search for meaning away from the gridiron
Starting point is 00:36:59 and the consequences for everyone involved. You mix homesteading with guns and church and a little bit of the spice of conspiracy theories that we liked. Voila! You got straight away. I felt like I was living in North Korea, but worse, if that's possible. Listen to Spiraled on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. MTV's official challenge podcast is back for another season. That's right. The challenge is about to embark
Starting point is 00:37:27 on its monumental 40th season, y'all, and we are coming along for the ride. Woohoo! That would be me, Devin Simone. And then there's me, Davon Rogers. And we're here to take you behind the scenes of drumroll, please. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. The Challenge 40
Starting point is 00:37:43 Battle of the Eras. Yes. Each week, cast members will be joining us to spill all of the tea on the relentless challenges, heartbreaking eliminations, and of course, all the juicy drama. And let's not forget about the hookups. Anyway, regardless of what era you're rooting for at home, everyone is welcome here on MTV's official challenge podcast. So join us every week as we break down episodes of the Challenge 40 Battle of the Eras. Listen to MTV's official challenge podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Starting point is 00:39:03 Subscribe now and listen to the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast on the iHeartRadio app, on Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. What a break, huh? What a break. We have fun. So we wanted to talk about one of the creepier things we've come across on the Internet that is apparently taking up a huge portion of the mind share of our fellow human beings based on the view count.
Starting point is 00:39:35 So it is a channel called Toy Freaks. Toy Freaks. So this is there's been some controversy on YouTube kids lately. The New York Times recently wrote an get him to sit still for, we will show him YouTube kids. And it's just like a long line of videos that are cartoons or, you know, educational in some way. York Times pointed out that there were also things that had somehow slipped past the filter that, you know, featured familiar characters and grotesque scenarios. Do you believe that on the Internet? No. Familiar characters and grotesque.
Starting point is 00:40:35 But, like, one was the Paw Patrol dog. One of the Paw Patrol dogs committing suicide. One was Spider-Man urinating on Elsa from Frozen. Just, like, weird animated shit right that on the in the thumbnail it's like oh it's like hulk and spider-man playing with elsa and then when you watch it it's this like dark like weird thing that if you were a kid you'd just be mad confused right but um so there's another set of videos that is apparently controversial that i forget how we even stumbled across it. So YouTube has gone through and tried to clean up videos, but these videos, the Toy Freaks account still falls under the kids category.
Starting point is 00:41:31 To get you in the right mindscape, like imagine if John Waters made a children's movie for seven dollars and you kind of get the idea. It's like gross out humor, weird costumes, like really over the top behavior. And it generally just like feels like the sort of nightmare you'd have if you like as your brain melted from uh 108 degree fever like it's just really really weird yeah and i think what's really kind of off about these like so in this channel specifically toy review channels and that genre of youtube videos are very popular and mostly it's like kids unboxing new toys and playing with them and like other kids love watching that because it's pretty innocent because it's just like oh wow i'm watching this kid play with the christmas morning you get to exactly then you start getting into these channels that like walk this really weird fine line so in this channel specifically it's this
Starting point is 00:42:18 father uh i don't see a mother ever and it's and his two daughters they're like six and eight roughly and the whole time like he has the his and his two daughters, they're like six and eight, roughly. And the whole time, like, he has his daughters acting like babies. Like, they're wearing onesies and have pacifiers and, like, pigtails. They throw tantrums. And one of their biggest videos, so it's kind of like this odd line of, like, forced infancy, where these little girls are clearly not babies, but they're meant to act like babies. And yeah, Lacey,
Starting point is 00:42:48 you're looking at me with the craziest looking at, oh, let's, let's like look at a clip so you can kind of understand like what this is even kind of about. Yeah. So Lacey is seeing all this for the first time. Okay.
Starting point is 00:42:59 Live reaction, Joe. Oh yeah. Right. Live Reaction Show. Ew. He has a blender halfway full of milk, and now he's putting a banana in it and calling it a banana shake. And going, ooh, that's going to be good. Ooh, that's going to be good. The first time that Miles was watching this on his computer, I was like, why is Miles watching porn in the office again?
Starting point is 00:43:21 Right, it sounds like porn. No, I'm just joking. This is some freaky shit. No, look, I went to those court-mandated class. Stop doing that. So a lot of the imagery is just really, really fucking dark. So why are we talking about this video? Because it is insanely popular.
Starting point is 00:43:41 One video where they go to a grocery store has 670 million views. They go to a grocery store and one of the girls exclaims that she has diarrhea. So that's, it also has like weird scat humor and like weird sort of combinations of like baby stuff, but then
Starting point is 00:43:59 like gross out stuff. But to put that in perspective, 670 million views. If it were a TV show, it would be 40 times more popular than game of Thrones. Right. And no one's ever heard like no adult.
Starting point is 00:44:15 I mean, I, I, I did not know about this till a friend of mine pointed out to me. Right. So this is, yeah, it's a phenomenon that is,
Starting point is 00:44:23 is just gone completely under like the radar of most people. Do we think these are kids watching this? That's what we can't figure out. So that's why we are trying to figure out, like, who is this for? Because, yeah, like, Lacey still has the craziest look on her face. I can't take this look off my face. Oh, my God. I got to take a shower.
Starting point is 00:44:40 That's not right. Who is this man pipping at these little poor children? I know. And then they're, like, always he's like spilling stuff on themselves they like put right in their mouth and then pretend to vomit and spit it out and it's like it it could be that like this just my initial thought was maybe this is for a very specific like developmental span in like children's development, like maybe from 24 months to 27 months, like your brain is just broken enough that this is like what you need to see or something.
Starting point is 00:45:16 But all parents like the comments seem to be as baffled as us. So we're like, it's not clear who's really watching it's a pedophile's wet dream that's it's weird so that's the thing is like because it hasn't translated to the zeitgeist at least openly like nobody really knows about it it makes you wonder if that's what's going on if it's like secret like viewership yeah and i think you know there are a lot of people have talked about this channel like they repeat their essays written about it on medium uh which you know like to quote it they're they're saying like a lot of the activities in the video which many many viewers feel border on abuse and exploitation if not crossing the line entirely including videos of
Starting point is 00:46:00 the children vomiting and in pain and there was another write-up saying that like you know in these videos there's a lot of disturbing content like they're just like this odd fetish vibe of like fathers putting the young daughters under extreme pressure and pain and stress and anxiety and just basically filming it and you know like one of their like latest videos uh at the time was like the following his little girl into the bathroom and film her as she's crying in severe pain with like blood flowing from her mouth and her tooth coming out and another one is like he jumps the two girls while they're taking a shower and dumps a bucket of frogs into their tub while like filming them and you know this is like weird voyeurism yeah i don't like the clothes they're
Starting point is 00:46:39 wearing he got him in like baby thought clothes those pajamas were tight as hell uh-uh i know what's happening here they need to get that man. They need to pull him to his house. He has like a weird vibe too. Like he's, I don't know. When he was making that smoothie, he was like, oh, it's going to be so good. Right. And at times he has a pacifier in his mouth and he'll mimic like the sort of like emotions
Starting point is 00:46:58 of a child. It's really, really weird. And another thing too is like when you look at the tags you know some people are suggesting that some of the tags in the videos like when you're searching they kind of align with bdsm and fetish culture like by using terms like freak daddy and bad baby and these and yeah and these and like these discipline themes it's just it's a very very odd thing and like you know but the thing is with youtube because this is in the considered like a child category they can monetize this kind of stuff and there's you know if you look at
Starting point is 00:47:30 websites like social blade who do like analytics on channels some of the estimates that their channels worth is between 1.2 and 16.3 million dollars right ad revenue right so like on the conservative end they're making like a million dollars a year. Right. This looked like Lindsay Lohan childhood. Right. I don't approve. Yeah. It really seems. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:47:53 It's difficult to imagine what things are like when the camera turns off. But it seems like it must be a very strange life for those kids. And this also kind of like earlier this year, there was this whole controversy in May of this channel called Daddy of Five, where this dad basically lost custody of his kids because his videos that he was posting were, like, he called them pranks, but the courts were like, no, this is straight-up child abuse. Right. calling it a prank like really tormenting his kids mentally like having his sons like slap his daughter and and like being like oh it's cool to hit your sister but like not all women but if it's your sister it's fine it was just very disturbing and like like they got found out and this is you know this is all kind of a lot of this stuff is now coming to the surface because already their most popular video i think has been taken down off YouTube. Yeah. The grocery store one where one of the girls says she has diarrhea.
Starting point is 00:48:47 I was assuming it was because they actually go into a grocery store and film in a grocery store, which is like the one if you've ever made like a student film, you know, the one thing you can't do is just like show thousands of brands and like logos. But and they also go into a McDonald's at one point. So I'm assuming that's why that one was taken down. Also, these kids don't have any rights to this material. It's not like when you have kids in television where now
Starting point is 00:49:14 there's so many protections against them and trust funds and stuff for money and things like that. These kids have no access to any of this money. They're not in a union. Their dad's just making all this money off of them. And they're going to grow up with no consent of this stuff they're not in a union their dad's just making all this money off of them and they're gonna grow up with no consent of this stuff like the the real question is kind of like you know like are these actual just fetish videos masquerading around as kids videos yeah i mean another we compared it to game of thrones but to compare it to some other youtube videos that have
Starting point is 00:49:41 been extremely popular and have like made a splash in the zeitgeist. So Double Rainbow, everybody remembers that the guy who's just clearly on mushrooms and freaking out about seeing two rainbows and Rebecca Black's Friday song. Those videos have 44 and 114 million views, respectively. These videos, like every one of the videos, like so many of the videos just dwarf that like they write a lot of their videos have tens of millions of views, more than Rebecca Black's Friday song. was saying that he, you know, when he went and watched this, he got an ad for Legos, presumably because his computer was listening to him and he actually does collect Legos. But he's like, does is this what Lego wants?
Starting point is 00:50:36 Like, do they want their ads running before content? When he said the Lego ad ran before a video where the dad films his daughter taking a pee on the other daughter because she wets her pants while sitting on the other daughter's lap. And then she's like, I'm going to have to potty train her. Oh, my God. So, yeah, I mean, again, there's a lot of fetish-y videos that masquerade around is information like there's there was another uh mom on youtube who got under some scrutiny because she has like a breastfeeding channel and they allow certain breastfeeding videos on youtube as like you know informational yeah but this woman would like breastfeed her kids and talk about having sex or like telling people to like you know go to her paypal to make like custom content and that was you know people like this is just you're exploiting your kids and like
Starting point is 00:51:23 just very disturbing stuff. And the thing to go along with advertising on YouTube, they've had a very interesting year because earlier a lot of advertisers left YouTube because they didn't realize their ads were being served in front of straight up racist, really inflammatory content. And they were like, wait, we're not paying you to serve our ads in front of this kind of thing. And they cracked down. And then a lot of creators on YouTube were complaining that like, Hey, this is taking a shot to our revenue. And then now with this, you know, it's like, I, I wonder if these companies who are having their ads served on this would maybe take a look at this and say, do we want this? But you never know because the way it works is with these ads, like Google determines on which videos to serve the ad just based off all their information they have. So it's not that Lego would say, hey, I want this in front of it.
Starting point is 00:52:13 It's because the algorithm is like, we can find someone who this fits the demographic and their viewing habits on YouTube. This is probably the best ad. I mean, I do keep coming back to the idea that this might just be a home run for a very specific developmental bandwidth. Right. Because the only other time I've been just floored by the number of YouTube views on something was just this really terrible series of computer animated things that were like kids songs, computer animated. And they're terrible. Right. To the point that I was like, no, we're not showing them this we'll just show sesame street and i guess that's one thing if if that's what's going on and like parents are showing their children this because they're like
Starting point is 00:52:56 entertained by that like children are also entertained by things that are developed by actual professional child psychologists and you know know, experts like Sesame Street and, you know, a lot a lot of children's entertainment that is like by the professionals. I feel like that's one place where it might make sense to actually kind of keep that barrier of entry up a little bit so that we're only dumping stuff into our' brains that has been sort of filtered through somebody with some expertise. Yeah, not older kids play acting like they're babies and like in just really odd situations. Well, they're being directed by an adult. Right.
Starting point is 00:53:33 It's not even like the kids are coming up with this stuff. And that's what's sick to me about it. It's like, is he telling the daughter to pee on the other daughter? Like, what? Yes. Not that like she's actually pe peeing but like it you know it's made to look like you know she wet herself while sitting on her sister's lap right or whatever so it's just all like the situations are weird yeah like it so again it walks this very fine
Starting point is 00:53:54 line of like yeah you could see it as this guy just has a weird you know uh aesthetic sense for his videos and also who knows if this is serving a darker purpose so yeah so uh we'd love to hear from you guys anybody who is familiar with this and who has watched it and has some familiarity we won't judge we're just curious like who who's watching this and why this these videos have so many views or uh if uh you're the guy who makes them, uh, you, you weirdo, um, let, let us know.
Starting point is 00:54:27 Uh, we're, we're just curious. We won't judge. Uh, you can get us at the daily zeitgeist on Instagram or at daily zeitgeist on Twitter. Uh,
Starting point is 00:54:36 and then our Facebook page is the daily zeitgeist. So yeah, we are curious, but it makes, it makes sense why I think it's like developmental sweet spot because to fully formed adults watching it, we're're like this is fucking weird as fuck yes at best yes i think it's because it's being made by a fully formed adult if this was like two girls with a camera and they just let them write free and then someone uploaded it to the internet i'd be
Starting point is 00:54:58 like oh yeah totally kids but the fact that there's a grown-ass man in the bag come oh yeah you don't know that's that's not right. It's his gaze. Yeah, it is. It's coming from an adult, an adult gaze. Yes. So, I mean, I guess it's just another example of what we were talking about earlier with, you know, Twitter having to call the herd of people who they verified. It's like, you know, the Internet, in theory, great. And I'm always pro free speech. But there are these uses of the Internet that are bubbling up that are pretty troubling and, you know, might need to get dealt with. All right. So we're going to take a quick break and we'll be right back. How do you feel about biscuits?
Starting point is 00:56:02 Hi, I'm Akilah Hughes, and I'm so excited about my new podcast, Rebel Spirit, where I head back to my hometown in Kentucky and try to convince my high school to change their racist mascot, the rebels, into something everyone in the South loves, the biscuits. I was a lady rebel. Like, what does that even mean? The Boone County rebels will stay the Boone County rebels with the image of the biscuits. It's right here in black and white in print. A lion. An individual that came to the school saying that God sent him to talk to me about the mascot switch is a leader. You choose hills that you want to die on. Why would we want to be the losing team? I just take all the other stuff out of it.
Starting point is 00:56:28 Segregation academies. When civil rights said that we need to integrate public schools, these charter schools were exempt from that. Bigger than a flag or mascot. You have to be ready for serious backlash. Listen to Rebel Spirit on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. It was December 2019 when the story blew up. In Green Bay, Wisconsin, former Packers star Kabir Bajabiamila caught up in a bizarre situation. KGB explaining what he believes led to the arrest of his friends at a children's Christmas play. A family man, former NFL player, devout Christian, now cut off from his family and connected to a strange arrest.
Starting point is 00:57:11 I am going to share my journey of how I went from Christianity to now a Hebrew Israelite. I got swept up in Kabir's journey, but this was only the beginning. In a story about faith and football, the search for meaning away from the gridiron and the consequences for everyone involved. You mix homesteading with guns and church and a little bit of the spice of conspiracy theories that we liked. Voila! You got straight away. I felt like I was living in North Korea, but worse, if that's possible. Listen to Spiraled on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:57:48 MTV's official challenge podcast is back for another season. That's right. The challenge is about to embark on its monumental 40th season, y'all. And we are coming along for the ride. Woohoo! That would be me, Devin Simone. And then there's me, Davon Rogers. And we're here to take you behind the scenes of, drumroll please.
Starting point is 00:58:07 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. The Challenge 40, Battle of the Eras. Yes. Each week, cast members will be joining us to spill all of the tea on the relentless challenges, heartbreaking eliminations, and of course, all the juicy drama. And let's not forget about the hookups. Anyway, regardless of what era you're rooting for at home, everyone is welcome here on MTV's official challenge podcast. So join
Starting point is 00:58:31 us every week as we break down episodes of the Challenge 40 Battle of the Eras. Listen to MTV's official challenge podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Fantasy football fans, the NFL season is here and now is the time to get ready to dominate your Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. you need to absolutely steamroll your fantasy league and bring home a championship. You don't need to spend hours each day breaking down every stat and every stitch of game tape to set a winning lineup. That's our job. We'll provide all the insights you need to set the best lineups each week. All you need to do is listen to the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast when it drops five times a week.
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Starting point is 00:59:50 my dad told somebody he had cancer to have sex I said so what I said so what did she do what did she do when you didn't die he's so trifling he's like watch out for men they're bad and we're back another great break by the way.
Starting point is 01:00:05 Another great break. So, all right. We have a couple updates from stories from earlier this week. The Meek Mill story. We talked about how he had this, like, wacky judge who was harassing him, trying to get him to re-record Boyz II Men's Unbended Knee and just do all this strange shit. cord boys to men's unbended knee and uh just do all this strange shit uh jay-z wrote an op-ed talking about uh this story in the new york times today and there are a couple details we missed so uh you know we had heard that he had been arrested in the last year which were violations of his probation which sounds bad um but so one arrest was for an altercation at a St. Louis airport.
Starting point is 01:00:45 But when video of the altercation was released, all charges were dropped because it clearly wasn't his fault. And then he was arrested for driving recklessly in New York, which I imagined he was. They said it was for popping a wheelie on a dirt bike. I imagined he was doing wheelies in Times Square, like in the middle of traffic. No, it was actually on the set of a video during a video shoot. He uploaded a video of himself doing a wheelie to Instagram and a cop was following him and like watching his Instagram and saw the video and, you video and used that to arrest him. So they're clearly out to get this dude.
Starting point is 01:01:30 The judge, who we've already talked about, is crazy and just looking for any excuse to be in a room with Meek Mill so she can tell him who she thinks his manager should be. She was trying to get him to switch management to a friend or a relative of hers. She is actively to get him to switch management to like a friend or a relative of hers. She is actively fucking with him. And Jay-Z's editorial was about the fact that, you know, probation is used to a lot of the four point six five million Americans who were on some sort of parole or probation were black, which is obviously way disproportionate to how many black people there are in the country or like what portion of the population they are. So, I don't know. He says black people are sent to prison for probation and parole violations at much higher rates than white people, which, you know, isn't
Starting point is 01:02:26 surprising, but it's still pretty troubling. And, you know, so this Meek Mill story also seems to be about a bigger kind of trend in the justice system. And there's some studies actually just came out, I think, this week, just confirming what most people already knew, that men of color inordinately face much higher sentences than their white counterparts. Right. And so this is the second time that Meek Mill has been sent to prison for parole violations. So Jay-Z points out that Meek Mill was around 19 when he was convicted on charges relating to drug and gun possession, and he served his entire eight month sentence.
Starting point is 01:03:03 So he did his time. And Jay-Z says now he's 30. So he's been on probation for basically his entire adult life. And with this infraction, the judge sent him to prison. But the prosecution, the prosecutor in the case, which prosecutors are not known for being like friendly, The prosecutor recommended no additional jail time. They were like, no, this is not a big deal. And the judge sent him away to prison. In 2014, the judge ordered him to take etiquette classes. He was jailed for five months for like some perceived slight.
Starting point is 01:03:43 And, oh, it was because he performed out of state without her permission and you know he's trying to make a living as an artist uh and according to meek mill he spent much of that five months in solitary confinement which we'll do a future segment on solitary but uh just according to everybody who knows stuff about like human torture, that that is like the worst thing you can do to a human being. And he was sent to solitary confinement for months at a time because he performed out of town. And this judge was trying to make a living. Right. to make a living right um one bit of good news for meek mill is apparently uh the judge has set a bail hearing for him on november 27th so he may be allowed to be freed on bail pending appeal after you have to thanksgiving yeah which you have to imagine has something to do with it
Starting point is 01:04:37 well yeah i mean because you know it's been reported that the fbi was uh investigating this judge because of her asking meek Mill to switch his management company. They're viewing that as an extortionate demand. Oh, okay. I feel like you can't do that when you're a judge. You can't do it that way because it is extortion. So that's cool of the judge to consider letting him go after he's spent Thanksgiving in prison. All right, that's going to do it for this experiment in the weekly Zeitgeist.
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