The Daily Zeitgeist - The WeekTrend Report 8/28: Trump, Vivek, AI Writers, AMPTP, Bob Barker

Episode Date: August 28, 2023

In this edition of the WeekTrend Report, Jack and super producer Bryan discuss Trump's mean mugshot, the Vivek Ramaswamy Sunday news show dumpster fire, AI writing that continues to impress, AMPTP hir...ing a crisis PR team, the passing of Bob Barker, and much more!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me for I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and Shekinah Church. Listen to Forgive Me for I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:00:30 I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese.
Starting point is 00:00:39 Every great player needs a foil. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have
Starting point is 00:00:46 changed the way we consume women's sports. Listen to the making of a rivalry Caitlin Clark versus Angel Reese on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast or wherever you get your podcast. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. Hey, I'm Gianna Pardenti
Starting point is 00:01:02 and I'm Jermaine Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. There's a lot to figure out when you're just starting your career. That's where we come in. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in people who do, like negotiation expert Maury Tahiripour. If you start thinking about negotiations as just a conversation,
Starting point is 00:01:22 then I think it sort of eases us a little bit. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hello, the internet, and welcome to this Monday morning Weak Trending edition
Starting point is 00:01:37 of Weak Trend. I prefer the Weak Trend. Oh, oh, oh, oh. That's iconic. We, you know, it is an obscure Garth Brooks SNL episode sketch
Starting point is 00:01:53 with Will Ferrell as the devil. But we, I think we can just assume that everybody knows what we're talking about. I am Jack O'Brien and that is
Starting point is 00:02:04 super producer Brian Jeffries. Miles is out on assignment. He's scouring the old country. He's scouring the old country for the best snacks and the most magnificent views. Yeah, and it appears to be going well. He'll be back next week. Oh, he returns your calls.
Starting point is 00:02:28 Interesting. Yeah. I'm just tracking him on in some ways that he's not aware of, actually. Put some air tags on him. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He seems like he's okay.
Starting point is 00:02:43 The eagle is safe in the nest nest if you know what i'm saying anyways uh brian we're going to talk about uh some things that happened over the weekend but first we like to open with some overrated some underrated to let the folks get to know us a little bit better um my overrated is something i've mentioned before i think but it's so the quote you know you know what the definition of insanity is right brian you know what the definition of doing the same shit over and over again and expecting different results what the where did it came up with that einstein did dude according to everybody who quotes it apparently on the internet yes that's like when i googled this to be like all right so like where did this come from
Starting point is 00:03:32 people were like uh i mean we all think einstein said it but uh we can't actually find the sourcing do think he said wow there are a lot of there are a lot of images with that quote. Yeah. His face on it. Yes. Which is perplexing because that is a pretty good description of the scientific method. Yeah. Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results or at least like checking to see if they're different results.
Starting point is 00:04:14 Is the scientific method in in a nutshell yeah um so i guess every scientist is fully insane fully insane um or you know other things it's a pretty good description of is like we're practicing to get good at something it requires you to do the same thing over and over yeah when i was a musician i must have been insane you were yeah truly to practice all those hours yeah i feel like when it's used it's usually like a glib way of addressing like we all do we all do like you know people get in patterns of behavior that we can't seem to get out of. But I feel like it's not it's not because we're insane or dumb. Because behavior is really hard to change consciously. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:55 Perhaps the brain is like this incredibly powerful machine that we aren't capable of understanding with our conscious mind i feel like being a human is like being in one of those little hot air balloon baskets strapped to just like the most incredibly powerful rocket ship and like we don't know how to operate it necessarily that would explain why i'm constantly in a state of terror um because i don't fuck with the hot air balloons yes um but yeah it's and i i feel like be dismissing things that are happening in our brain is like dumb or insane glibly is not a good strategy like it's a it's always interesting it's not just like we'll keep doing it and i think i think probably we're also seeing people come up against this like in more of a public way because we have the problem of you know there are certainly problems that keep happening because of you know uh just guns being everywhere or you know the climate changing and there's nothing that we can do about it.
Starting point is 00:06:09 But again, it's not because we're insane or stupid. It's because we are in a massive system that is more powerful than us. And, you know, capitalism has taken a turn to no longer serving humans and we need to get out of that. But it's not,
Starting point is 00:06:26 uh, it's not our fault and it's not just like, you guys are stupid. It's the definition of insanity. Yeah. It's such a, it's one of those thought killing phrases that you can wheel out without thought to kill other thoughts that people might be having.
Starting point is 00:06:42 And, uh, yeah, yeah. It's the worst. It's one of the worst. Yeah. be having. And yeah, yeah, it's the worst. It's one of the worst. Yeah, and anything, I've seen, like, there's so many, like, the Einstein brand is so strong with dumb people.
Starting point is 00:06:54 People love ascribing quotes to him, Karl Marx, what's the, Abraham Lincoln, he's like in that club. Mark Twain. He's in that club of just the hottest quotables. Yes. That he never actually said. This guy was just dropping bars his whole life. That's mainly what he was focused on, was witticisms.
Starting point is 00:07:18 Yeah. If you're about to quote Einstein, just take a beat, double check, or just like, don't do it because what you're about to say probably originated with like a morning zoo radio DJ or a motivational speaker. Like that's who comes up with these quotes that everybody likes quoting. What's a, what's something you think is overrated? likes quoting. What's something you think is overrated? Something I think is overrated. I'm just going to go off
Starting point is 00:07:48 the cuff here, looking at the news page. Dolby Atmos, Jack? Dolby Atmos? It's completely overrated. It doesn't work. I don't know what this is. Well, it's a scam that
Starting point is 00:08:03 the Dolby cartel has come up with to sell you to sell you uh like 20 fucking speakers to put in your living room so you can do surround sound and it it it's supposed to like bounce sound off of the walls and it's supposed to make you feel like you're just surrounded by like whatever you're watching and it just it doesn't work and it's very expensive i've heard of surround sound it's like the surround sounds fine yeah the next step in surround sound is basically it's the next step in surround sound and it's really really it's truly overrated because it it doesn't work it surround sound works better i i know this is, but there are a lot of people out there spending way too much money on their little speaker setups. You need like 10 speakers for Dolby Atmos.
Starting point is 00:08:55 Okay. Which I think is too many. I don't see what's wrong with two. Too damn many speakers. Atmos, I was like, oh, Atmos, right. It's got to be, it's got to mean something. Like when you look it up, you'll always see like these, it'll always be an image of way too many speakers,
Starting point is 00:09:16 little tiny speakers in a room with like ghost lines coming off of it to denote all the sound bouncing around everywhere and that's just not how physics works um so yeah i think i think that's overrated i do have like a sound bar that's supposed to have it and it it just sounds like a sound bar you know it doesn't sound like I'm in Pandora, Jack. Damn it. That's what I was hoping for. At most, I'd say that shit is Tridash. Tridash. What's something you think is underrated? Something I think is underrated?
Starting point is 00:09:58 Well, this weekend I built myself a new computer, a new rig. So I'm going to say just doing it yourself. Just ordering parts and just taking the time. I was initially stressed out about the prospect of building a new computer, but it was actually really fun. And it saved me a shit ton of money. And, uh, yeah,
Starting point is 00:10:27 it was cool. That seems that like, you might as well be like, I built a car from scratch this weekend for, for me, that just, uh, uh,
Starting point is 00:10:39 good. That's it. That's great. Um, I will take that underrated and do absolutely nothing with it because i can't there's nothing there's nothing that you do do like you know uh you're like no i'm not gonna pay somebody to do that i'll do it myself you know oh yeah yeah no i do have that it's just not building a computer for okay so you're broad is you're really just plugging smaller things into larger things and then you just you screw everything down
Starting point is 00:11:05 yeah okay i uh pressure washed my back deck and that is one of the the great feelings what was so satisfying to just wash that watch that dirt disappear i love watching um uh videos like that on youtube of like pressure washing or laser cleaning. Yeah. Where like something is just like super bucked up and then it's just like this methodical like inch by inch. They're just taking everything away. It's so satisfying. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:38 My underrated is how unnatural the bodily action of jumping jacks is i i had underrated that before this weekend and then i uh watched my kids try to do jumping jacks in their taekwondo class and then i like tried to help them do jumping jacks and it is weird it's it's just like you know they're trying to like fit three jumps in in between like the leg spread. And they eventually got it. But yeah, whoever invented jumping jacks is pure evil. Like all that. Like, I just remember when I was a kid doing it, my internal organs don't like being jostled like that at all.
Starting point is 00:12:23 And it is very jostling. It takes about six jumping jacks for me to feel totally ill. It's just like, I'm like, oh, well, yeah, you have loose organs.
Starting point is 00:12:35 That's your, your organs wander around your body and around in there. It is. It is. That's one of those diseases that you see in old books where like old doctors are like well they had like a wandering i think wandering uterus was one of the ways that they found to explain women trying to think for themselves away but i do feel like it is a natural assumption it's like man if i like move around too much
Starting point is 00:13:06 like all the all the shit inside me is gonna like jostle around to get tangled up right well i mean you can feel it it's like you can i don't know there's all sorts of goop in there and i'd like bags inside my cage here in my like central torso section and like i don't want to jostle them around too much if that's cool i want everything to stay in the right orientation so no jumping jacks for me but just general i feel like it's underrated how much better we get at operating our bodies as we age like like our bodies get older and like worse for sure. Like my body is worse, like hurts more, uh,
Starting point is 00:13:47 in the morning than it used to. Like, I know how to do stuff. Like, there's like a lot of things that are like learning to ride a bike that you just like kind of pick up as you get older and spend more time as a physical being on the planet. Like, do you know what i mean like what do you like
Starting point is 00:14:07 in the bike example like when did you learn to ride a bike i learned to ride a bike oh no no no like when i was like six and then you like never forget it but like how to use a hammer how to like but i've uh started playing tennis again for the first time since I was like nine. And like, I've gotten better at playing tennis, like just by not by playing tennis, but just like by being older and like knowing what to do with my body and like having a little bit better, like hand eye coordination than I used to.
Starting point is 00:14:40 Now I know what you mean because yeah, there's, there's certain things I have an approach now that I didn't have when I was younger. Basically anything that's like motor function. Yeah, I definitely understand that now. I understand how my body likes to move. Yeah. And yeah, I just play to my strengths because, yeah, yeah, I am, I am very prone to, uh,
Starting point is 00:15:06 certain types of like injury, like pulling my back or something like that. So I have to move in a very particular way. Yeah. Uh, so I don't injure myself. And when I was a kid, I was just like,
Starting point is 00:15:17 get out there and just be like, ah, you know, just like be jumping off of stuff and like going wild. And yeah, yeah. Now I'm like okay yeah yeah like when you play pickup basketball there's this thing that like people talk about old man strength
Starting point is 00:15:30 where you like run into an old man and it's like a brick wall and you're like wait what the fuck like i thought i thought old people like got weaker and frailer with age it's not that they get like stronger they just like know how to do stuff with their body. It's like an old man knowing how to move your body. It's funny you mention that because when I was a kid, I used to ditch school or break into places, abandon buildings and stuff, and do a lot of hopping fences, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:58 And you would just throw yourself at the fence. And not that long ago, you'd just be up and over and it's nothing not that long ago like this year i crashed my drone in like this cactus patch oh no in a cat in a literal cactus patch and i had to hop a fence to go get it and i stood there in front of that fence for a good seven minutes like how the fuck am i gonna do this without injuring myself or or stabbing myself in the junk when i get to the top yeah like all those all those things you don't think about when you're a kid of like i'm just
Starting point is 00:16:38 gonna go over this fence i'm like um no i'm gonna plan this for like two hours before I even try to climb this fence. Maybe I was just a really uncoordinated little kid. Because I feel like I'd be better at that now than I was as a kid. I was just like, I don't know. I was uncoordinated. I never dove headfirst into water until I was an adult. So I think I was just like an uncoordinated careful little kid um that was my first time in a pool uh i i dove in headfirst and i did not know that they had deep ends
Starting point is 00:17:12 i had a just a mild drowning just mild yeah all right well those are uh not now you guys know us a little bit better brian is a tech whiz, flies fucking drones all over the place, builds his own computers. Sad, solitary man just tinkering, pottering around at home. Let's take a quick break and we'll come back and talk news. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed.
Starting point is 00:17:58 Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and LA-based Shekinah Church, an alleged cult that has impacted members for over two decades. Jessica and I will delve into the hidden truths between high-control groups and interview dancers, church members, and others whose lives and careers have been impacted, just like mine. Through powerful, in-depth interviews with former members and new, chilling first-hand accounts, the series will illuminate untold and extremely necessary perspectives. Forgive Me For I Have Followed will be more than an exploration. It's a vital revelation aimed at ensuring these types of abuses never
Starting point is 00:18:35 happen again. Listen to Forgive Me For I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradente. And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Or can I negotiate a higher salary if this is my first real job? Girl, yes. Each week, we answer your unfiltered work questions. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in experts who do, like resume specialist Morgan Saner. The only difference between the person who doesn't get the job
Starting point is 00:19:20 and the person who gets the job is usually who applies. Yeah, I think a lot about that quote. What is it like you miss a hundred percent of the shots you never take? Yeah. Rejection is scary, but it's better than you rejecting yourself. Together, we'll share what it really takes to thrive in the early years of your career without sacrificing your sanity or sleep. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is Season 4 of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese.
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Starting point is 00:20:45 sponsored by diet coke and we're back and the the mugshot dropped after we recorded our last episode last week so close like so close we were talking about the other mug shots of his crew there was plenty to talk about then they saved the best for last they did so it dropped i'm sure everybody's seen it he's scowling at the camera which you had predicted i thought he might do like a funny smile um because i feel like that is his strength is that like people think he's funny. It was a toss up, but yeah, it was either going to be smiling or mean mugging. And he, he's kind of hitting us with that,
Starting point is 00:21:30 you know, a little, a little bit of meanest of mean mugging. He's hitting us with a little bit of that Jack Nicholson, the shining looking through the eyebrows kind of thing. Yeah. Yeah. It's,
Starting point is 00:21:41 um, so first voice I hear when seeing this image is actually miles gray saying, Oh, you're a tough guy. Huh? Because he really, he really like, seems like he is going for,
Starting point is 00:21:58 I don't know. It, there, there's something that embarrassing about it. And I'm trying to like view it, not just as like somebody who obviously is critical, but like just, well,
Starting point is 00:22:09 he, he seems like he is like, all right, look tough. I don't know. I guess part of it is also just knowing that he spent a ton of time thinking about what he was going to do with this image. And his decision was like,
Starting point is 00:22:23 Oh my God, I'm going to look like really fucking mean, decision was like oh my god it looked like really fucking mean like tough you know what i'm saying like one of those big generals with the big muscly arms yeah i wonder i wonder what the conversation was like in uh like on his team yeah yeah just just here in the room because like there is there is a lot of chatter in those places i don't know if you've ever had your mugshot taken jack but uh i think i have actually yeah there's there's like a lot of chatter i remember i remember i had a mugshot taken and uh we were talking about will smith movies of all fucking things oh really when they gave you your mugshot
Starting point is 00:23:03 when they were talking about the decline of of will smith movies over over the over the years yeah i thought was really really weird but uh that's funny i'm like what what was going on in the room probably not discussing will smith movies he's got the red tie on of course course. Red tie, navy jacket, white shirt, American flag colors. What else would it have been? Right. But there were bets taken. I'm assuming nobody made a lot of money taking the red tie,
Starting point is 00:23:36 since that seems to be his favorite. I mean, that's just what you wear if you're Republic. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. The other voice I hear is, what is this a center for ants uh because that is the movie quote that super producer anna hosnier sent to our group chat um when the picture dropped and it feels spot on he does he looks like he's being like trying to be intensely like smoldering but it does come off as a little Zoolander II Zoolander ish yeah cuz he's he's sort of altered the way that his he holds his jaw usually he's in a bit
Starting point is 00:24:16 of a pout mm-hmm but this he's it's just lips are just straight across. Yeah. Squared up. Yeah. I, I am like, this is Maggie Haberman. You have one job. Get me behind the scenes of how, like what happened? Like how he must've practiced the hell out of this pose.
Starting point is 00:24:43 There are probably no less than 100 test photos taken before he went in to get the real one taken yeah he was probably a total diva when it came to preparation for this picture he brought his own lighting oh like he brought like some ring lights and shit i'm sure he at least inquired about it um but if anyone can ever get their hands on like the different looks he was practicing in the various photos yeah and he's like he's he seems less jowly maybe it's just because it's like a sort of top down angle well this is the other big point that i want to make is he has been losing weight over the past couple of weeks. I think like some people have speculated it's Ozempic, which is like the thing that rich people are doing where they take a diabetes
Starting point is 00:25:33 medication to lose weight. And like, it has some really bad side effects. I think it's like off the market, but I'm sure he has like an entire like medical school of doctors who are willing to give him whatever the fuck he wants whenever he wants it but yeah he seems like he has deflated like three sizes in this picture yeah his face definitely looks slimmer he's got cheekbones bones bafflingly um it's weird yeah maybe one on tb12 but i'm pretty sure he's been working with brady uh i'm pretty sure this is just ozempic and like ozempic the way
Starting point is 00:26:18 ozempic works is like i i think it like makes you just eat, which can't be great at a time when you have the stress of a presidential campaign and like 53 lawsuits. We also, the other news is that his date for one of his trials is going to be like the day before super Tuesday. It's like March 4th, maybe. So interesting.
Starting point is 00:26:49 Yeah, that's crazy um if that date holds it would come so this is a quote about the date uh if that date holds it would come right in the middle of the republican presidential nominating calendar and the day before super tuesday a crucial voting day when the largest number of delegates are up for grabs. This is one of his federal indictments, not the Georgia one. Also, after the debate, his lead slipped a little bit, but it's
Starting point is 00:27:15 so massive. When you look at the numbers, it's so new. Emerson Poll. That is a wide delta there. Yeah. He went from having 62 percent of the field in april 2023 to uh 50 percent uh after the debate and he had 56 like before the debate so they're saying it like dropped six percentage points and this is the lowest support to date yeah this is the lowest support to date. Yeah, this is the lowest support. And it's still he still has a majority of like the actual fuck. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:50 Out of like eight candidates, he still has the majority of votes. Now, does this speak to his charm or does it speak to how lame everybody else is? Oh, definitely how lame everybody else is. But I think also charm. It's just it's he does i look i hate to admit it but he does have a little bit of zazz oh for sure he does have a little bit of zazz that uh speaks to certain people it's just like it's just wild to me that you can have eight whole ass other people and And they got nothing to show.
Starting point is 00:28:26 They're bringing nothing to the table. Yeah. And they're all too shook to like oppose him directly. Yeah, they're too scared of him. DeSantis is in second place at 12 points. Jesus. Like back in January, he was at 29%. And now he's at 12.
Starting point is 00:28:48 And nobody likes him. No. Yeah. And he's still in second place. This is so wild. Yeah. The biggest kind of increase in support among Republican candidates was Governor Nikki Haley went from 2% to 7%. So it's just, it's really, Vivek, who everybody said won the debate, actually went from 10% to 9% after the debate.
Starting point is 00:29:15 Whoops. Yeah. I don't know. Guess you should have left out the second verse, though. Lose yourself. That's right. So I don't know. It's crazy time. This is going to continue to be we are just moving forward with him being indicted him you know having court dates and
Starting point is 00:29:35 everything that goes along with that uh mug shots and then he's also running for president and he's almost definitely going to win the i'm i'm excited jack because i've man if you had told me you know years ago that this is where we would be yeah um i wouldn't have believed i wouldn't have believed myself um it's very strange it's very this country is sick it's fully uh it's fully sick yeah the other thing that i think a lot of people were waiting on was his actual weight being revealed um but he like they just took his word for what his weight was i guess honestly like that i think that is just what happens because it's like, it's not like when you go to the doctor's office and they have like the little scale and the little,
Starting point is 00:30:31 like the little ruler that they put on top of your head, see how tall you are. Like they don't do that in jail. It's more of a DMV situation where they just take your word for it. Yeah. It's like, they stand you, like I think for height,
Starting point is 00:30:42 they just have like the little tape on the wall where it's got the markers for height. Right, right. Yeah, they just sort of like, they take your word for it. They eyeball you for weight. Well, whoever was doing the eyeballing was being very generous because Trump came in at 6'3 and 215 pounds, which is like what Muhammad Ali weighed in his prime yeah yeah no I'm not buying that yeah I don't I don't think so I think he definitely dropped some weight I would have probably taken the under um like what having seen him lose so much weight in the run-up to the mugshot which i also feel like that has to have been like he wanted to get in there for the mugshot because he thought he looked kind of good
Starting point is 00:31:33 you know yeah he's like it's like you know dropping weight i'm looking i'm young i'm pretty i hit hard plus he's got merch to sell jack yeah yeah there's a lot of uh a lot of mugshot merch you think he's gonna let everybody else make money off of this and he's not gonna make any yeah so you can you go to his website the featured products are uh the mugshot in color on a white t-shirt uh and the words never surrender written in i don't know what font that is a exclamation point underneath a picture of him surrendering my fucking brain my brain hurts yeah my brain hurts so much that never surrender yeah like they do have a beer koozie uh to answer your question oh hey all right but it will reject it will uh self-destruct if you put a
Starting point is 00:32:26 bud light in there they wow can't have that did they make the font on that make america great again hat like even bigger yeah the make america great again uh newest edition is massive but the whole the whole it looks like the hat is bigger too like it's like a giant like an oversized hat yeah it's a giant novelty surrender holy shit you just surrender yeah that's what they've gone with for their tagline for the uh for the mugshot is never surrender they've got on t-shirts uh they've got a signed poster. Never Surrender's signed poster is amazing. You can get him to autograph his own
Starting point is 00:33:09 mugshot. But the Photoshop work on his store is really... Because they also have the Never Surrender mug. But they don't do the curve. I feel like that's very basic. The image kind of curves around the curve. Like, I feel like that's very basic that like the,
Starting point is 00:33:25 the image kind of curves around the cup, but it just is a, like a photograph of a mug with just a flat picture of the mug shot on it. Yeah. There's, there's no, there's none of that distortion that I didn't even notice that. So these are not,
Starting point is 00:33:42 these are not made yet. These are just mock-ups. Yeah. Yeah that makes sense yeah they have the uh the bumper sticker which presumably would go on a the back of a car with a bunch of oh yeah that's definitely that's definitely a photoshop job there the the bumper sticker is the worst like they just took a photo like whoever is doing this learned photoshop in like 1992 and hasn't updated anything um it's really bad um anyways let's say let's take one more break and we'll come back and check in with uh some of the other things that happened this weekend. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult.
Starting point is 00:34:39 And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and LA-based Shekinah Church, an alleged cult that has impacted members for over two decades. Jessica and I will delve into the hidden truths between high-control groups and interview dancers, church members, and others whose lives and careers have been impacted, just like mine. Through powerful, in-depth interviews with former members and new chilling firsthand accounts,
Starting point is 00:35:07 the series will illuminate untold and extremely necessary perspectives. Forgive me for I have followed will be more than an exploration. It's a vital revelation aimed at ensuring these types of abuses never happen again. Listen to forgive me for I have followed on the I heart radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. lot of questions like, how do I speak up when I'm feeling overwhelmed? Or can I negotiate a higher salary if this is my first real job? Girl, yes. Each week we answer your unfiltered work questions. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer,
Starting point is 00:35:58 we bring in experts who do, like resume specialist Morgan Santer. The only difference between the person who doesn't get the job and the person who gets the job is usually who applies. Yeah, I think a lot about that quote. What is it, like you miss 100% of the shots you never take? Yeah, rejection is scary, but it's better than you rejecting yourself. Together, we'll share what it really takes to thrive in the early years of your career without sacrificing your sanity or sleep. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app,
Starting point is 00:36:27 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil.
Starting point is 00:36:50 I ain't really near them boys. I just come here to play basketball every single day and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is unapologetically black. I love her. What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game? And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better.
Starting point is 00:37:17 This new season will cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. And I guess we should talk about Vivek, who is still in, according to this poll, which polls are full of shit, but, um, you know,
Starting point is 00:37:49 still in third behind DeSantis and Trump, but not strongly in third. And in fact, like Mike Pence got a bump in support. Um, but Nikki Haley is also that Haley Pence, both around 7%. All of this is like such minuscule numbers.
Starting point is 00:38:07 I don't think any of it matters, but, um, so Vivek, because he was like kind of the loud voice at the debate, got to go on a bunch of the Sunday shows and just, you know, further expose himself as like a rich kid,
Starting point is 00:38:23 a huckster spouting mega extremist views in order to bolster his own career like it seems like a pretty straightforward playbook he's working from but networks they're uh you know they're susceptible to this shit they did it with trump and they're doing it again brian do you know what the definition of insanity is? Because these networks certainly don't. Don't forget about Dr. Oz. Vivek has Dr. Oz vibes for me. Yeah, yeah. He's just a brown Dr. Oz.
Starting point is 00:38:57 Yeah. Not really a doctor. Right. Yeah, but he's like a scientist because he made hundreds of millions of dollars off of scientists. So basically that's, that's how that works. That makes you a scientist too. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:12 Yeah. Exploiting scientists makes you a scientist. Yeah. But so I don't know. He was on NBC and CNN's Sunday shows, CNN with Dana Bash and then Chuck Todd. On CNN, he suggested that white supremacists are so rare in America that they're basically unicorns.
Starting point is 00:39:32 Chuck Todd obviously pointed out that there was literally a white supremacist who murdered, went into a grocery store and murdered three people because they were black targeted them because they were black uh did it with a swastika covered assault rifle uh in jacksonville uh over over the weekend and of course with that particular story ram swami was like oh we shouldn't politicize this thing here um after politicizing like everything else that came up uh he also said that if he were in mike pence's position on january 6th he wouldn't have certified the 2020 election he would have overturned the election which pretty crazy he definitely seems like a dangerous person uh you know it were he to get in power it feels like he has some uh
Starting point is 00:40:29 fascist tendencies so yeah it's fashy yeah yeah he's a bit fashy and uh he's uh he's also he just seems like a worm like just this spineless piece of shit who will say anything he needs to yes yeah yeah well let's uh there was this uh ai sports article that uh people were passing around over the past week that i just i continue to be very impressed by um the the writing prowess of ai and yeah genuinely worried for uh the writers out there you know that they're going to be replaced um you know after i saw that headline um a couple weeks ago uh that paired a picture of vinceughn with the headline, it's no big secret why nobody will hire Van Vought anymore. I was like, well, they're working on some next level shit. Because he changed his name to Van Vought.
Starting point is 00:41:32 That's the first thing. Can't find his ass. It's a terrible name. Yeah. But we have this sports article that people were passing around that just provides the least possible information in the most words it really feels like yeah again i just i keep coming back to like c minus like c student energy like it seems like it's trying to stretch the word count like a c student you know yeah i mean just this headline
Starting point is 00:42:03 i like when i first saw this in the doc i was i was like what the fuck is this word salad westerville north escapes westerville central in thin win in ohio school football action yeah just rolling right off the tongue you know people talk about a narrow margin in sports i I've never heard someone say thin win. In thin win is new. But I can see how they got there, right? Like, it's always like, oh, okay, I see what you're doing. Also, the game is not particularly close.
Starting point is 00:42:42 Like, a thin win would suggest that the game is close. I'm just going to read it to you. The Westerville North Warriors defeated the Westerville Central Warhawks. Also, Westerville, chill the fuck out. What's with the warm-up ring? They defeated them 21-12
Starting point is 00:43:00 in an Ohio high school football game on Friday. Westerville North edged Westerville Central 21-12 in an Ohio high school football game on Friday, Westerville North edged Westerville central 2112 in a close encounter of the athletic kind at Westerville North high on August 18th in Ohio football action. Hey man, they shot their shot. Yo, they shot their shot.
Starting point is 00:43:20 Wild. Uh, um, like the athletic kind is so funny a human never vetted this that is insane yeah so they it's just two attempts at an opening sentence are the first two sentences of this sports article close encounter of the athletic kind so it really is it's like i understand how people see like start to ascribe personalities to this because it's really you reading this you immediately like i don't particularly like find myself drawn to criticizing writing or like being like
Starting point is 00:44:01 but i but anytime i'm reading ai writing i do feel like i am a seventh grade english teacher you know just like reading a kid like just stabbing all over the place doing their best to try and write something that sounds writerly together yeah westerville north opened with a 7-0 advantage over westerville Central through the first quarter. The Warhawks trimmed the margin to make it 7-6 at halftime. Westerville North jumped to a 21-6 lead heading into the final quarter. The Warriors chalked up this decision in spite of the Warhawks' spirited fourth quarter performance. Oh, are you done reading that that because i fell completely asleep holy shit that that is
Starting point is 00:44:47 the longest short article i've ever heard someone read just stretch that word count stretch that shit it is a dispassionate reciting of just the events that happen there's no and even like not not really yeah you just have no sense of anything that happened like trimmed the margin to make it seven six it's like this is a story about numbers that like changed it has nothing to do with football change that's all they're doing but yeah i don't know it does say specifically you're reading a news brief powered by score stream the world leader and fan driven sports results in conversation so it is an AI tool
Starting point is 00:45:29 that they ended up taking the article down and seem to be reconsidering their decision that's their way of telling you that this is an AI article is by saying you're reading a news brief powered by score stream yes the world leader in
Starting point is 00:45:48 fan-driven sports resulting conversation i think it's pretty clear brian uh yeah i think i'm just stupid because yeah i wouldn't i mean i i can read between the lines but like why can't you just say that we're just we're trying out some bullshit for a while yeah and hopefully we didn't fire all our beat writers because this is a mess um but no they just fired all the good ones who would complain about stuff yeah they kept that one guy who who just doesn't give a single solitary fuck about anything yeah who's just like really excited for all the different ways that ai is going to impact the future of journalism yeah um well speaking of all the exciting ways ai is going to impact things uh the am ptp uh the studios the studio side of the holly's strike hired a crisis PR team.
Starting point is 00:46:48 They are the Washington, D.C. based crisis PR firm that was responsible for assisting the people during the pizza gate. They came through and yeah interesting yeah the levenson group previously worked with comet ping pong post pizza gate um and this is in addition to the studios two other existing uh media consultants so and they seem like they're already getting results because not long after that news was reported the new york times published a cushy article profiling their lead negotiator carol lombardini and yeah the article just like talks about how she's a got working class roots she's a baseball fan her job is incredibly difficult to like work with so many different companies that want to crush their worker spirits she's got a lot of a lot of different things to balance you know yeah yeah and then there's this like anecdote that she hangs out at chain restaurants such as cheesecake factory
Starting point is 00:47:55 and has been mocked by screenwriters as a result um which i don't i don't know that that's true but if it is like writers lay the fuck off come on we're um i think you know what i'm changing i'm changing my uh my overrated it's overrated to make fun of people for going to the cheesecake factory yeah like no one does that anymore yeah but i think they just like selected a single like social media post and are trying to make this person into a working class hero, despite the fact that her salary is $1.2 million. She's doing all right. A lot of cheesecake factory. Hey, she's scraping by, Jack. She's doing the best she can.
Starting point is 00:48:40 Yeah. But just anecdotally, I am seeing more people tweet things like okay the people who wrote rise of skywalker want more money like people you know pointing out bad movies and being like people who wrote this are the ones who want more money for what they do they should get less money um because movie bad yeah because i didn't like this one movie. So I don't know. Hopefully, it does seem like there is a concerted attempt to try and start getting a pro studio message out there, but it always feels kind of misguided and half-assed, and it doesn't fully understand the current climate
Starting point is 00:49:23 and how people actually learn about stuff. With that people actually like give a fuck about. Right. But I mean, she only made one point two million dollars and then had a bonus of three hundred and sixty five thousand dollars. So like if you were giving her a bonus like that, that was more than 30 percent. You're off. She's just make the normal amount of money. I wonder what she had to do to get a 30% bonus. I wonder how many
Starting point is 00:49:50 lives she had to ruin. Yeah. And then, finally, we bid a fond farewell to Bob Barker, who passed away at the age of 99 this weekend. Damn. He almost killing it.
Starting point is 00:50:05 He almost made it. I know. The two tweets that I feel like perfectly summed everything up. Louis Vertel tweeted, I cannot believe Bob Barker lived as close to 100 as possible without going over. And then Sirius Black at NICSUPR tweeted in honor of Bob Barker. And then it's a photo collage of chicken noodle soup,
Starting point is 00:50:28 a sleeve of saltines and ginger ale, which yes, that is. That actually sounds amazing right now. Yeah. Yeah. I don't feel good by the way. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:40 I'm feeling a little shitty and i could really go for chicken noodle soup saltines and a ginger ale yeah price is right is a higher level like as far as i'm concerned anytime i've had to watch tv during the day and it's almost always because i'm sick like price is right is so far superior to anything else that's on. Yeah, I used to watch Price is Right a lot when I was a kid. I always loved his little skinny microphone. Yeah. And that, in fact, stuck with me to adulthood because I own a skinny microphone in his honor. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:21 And yeah, he's one of the best to ever do it. Is your skinny microphone like orange or like avocado color? I feel like it's just like a similar style. But it's like I had him in mind when I saw I was like, I want that skinny. I want the Bob Barker microphone. People are also like creating a death feud between him and Betty White, who also passed away at, I think, 99. So he was famously an animal rights activist.
Starting point is 00:51:52 You might remember that he ended up every episode telling you to spay or neuter your pets. I don't. Yeah. It was a weird thing that he always dropped in at the very end. He also was really concerned with the living conditions of elephants in zoos. He's actually the reason that
Starting point is 00:52:09 there aren't elephants in the zoo in Toronto anymore. He lobbied really hard to get rid of them in Los Angeles also. There was an elephant in the Toronto Zoo that he personally paid $1 million to have moved to an elephant in the toronto zoo that he personally paid one million dollars to have moved to an elephant sanctuary which that's pretty wild very nice yeah i'm i'm vehemently
Starting point is 00:52:34 sort of against um zoos in general so yeah that's always nice to hear yeah this this one's so back in 2009 he clashed with betty white over the fate of billy an elephant at the la zoo parker wanted him relocated to a sanctuary but betty white was a quote staunch ally of zoos what the fuck betty white what you mean you're betting white zoo no that's such a bad position uh betty you know they used to put black people in zoos right right just saying i'm sure there are a lot of really nice like animal loving people who work at zoos i could see how it would but just overall to be like fuck that i like zoos and i like being able to go to see the elephants there but by the way billy is still living in the la zoo yeah man shout out
Starting point is 00:53:29 poor billy and it's still like a point of contention when we went to a children's birthday party at the zoo and there were protesters there shouting at people when they left uh for having like looked at billy and not freed him basically he made me feel bad there's people freeing an elephant getting just completely fucking trampled trampled yeah like yeah don't don't try and free an elephant yourself just just lobby for it guys yeah but in terms of any personal animosity between betty white and bob barker most of the reporting on the feud came from the national inquirer so who even knows if any of that shit's true but truly rip to a real king and batboy is real right batboy is definitely real yeah okay
Starting point is 00:54:21 okay cool yeah that boy's cool uh all right that's gonna do it for today brian thank you so much for for joining filling in for my pleasure you aren't on social media so i won't even ask people media so don't even ask so don't even get started uh yeah brian's famous catchphrase don't even go there um you. Brian's famous catchphrase, don't even go there. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. That is going to do it for us this Monday morning. We are back tomorrow with a whole ass episode of the show. Until then, be kind to each other.
Starting point is 00:54:59 Be kind to yourselves. Get the vaccine. Don't do nothing about white supremacy. And we will talk to you all tomorrow. Bye. Bye. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and Shekinah Church. Listen to Forgive Me For I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports.
Starting point is 00:55:47 Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Caitlin Clark versus Angel Reese. Every great player needs a foil. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Listen to the making of a rivalry, Caitlin Clark versus Angel Reese on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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