The Daily Zeitgeist - Time For A Third Party? America Runs On Stale Fries 11.4.21

Episode Date: November 4, 2021

In episode 1023, Jack and Miles are joined by writer and host of Private Parts Unknown podcast Courtney Kocak to discuss Democrats Fail To Win In Virginia, Successfully Defeat A Socialist Mayor Though...! For the record: CRT fears weren’t that potent in this election, Americans food delivery habits, America’s Favorite Thanksgiving Sides and more!FOOTNOTES:≥ Democrats Fail To Win In Virginia, Successfully Defeat A Socialist Mayor Though!  For the record: CRT fears weren’t that potent in this election Some nice news from the election though Americans food delivery habits America’s Favorite Thanksgiving Sides LISTEN: Masego, JID, Big Boi - Garden Party Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:01 Hello, the internet, and welcome to season 208, episode 4 of Joe Daly's Eye Geist, a production of iHeartRadio. your podcasts. what international day we're dealing with oh if you didn't know it's november 4th that means national men make dinner day coming off the heels of national housewives day is also national chicken lady day and national cash back day don't know what any i don't know what the fuck chicken lady chicken lady who is that for it's honoring dr marthenia tina dupree for 12 years she worked as the second largest chicken worked for the second largest chicken restaurant in the world. Okay. I'm glad she has a day.
Starting point is 00:02:52 I think a lot of people deserve a day. Hey, look, is there someone in your community who elevates people around them? If so, celebrate them like others celebrate the chicken lady. Hell yeah. I mean, I know they blew up the chicken man in Philly last night, but I didn't know there was a chicken lady. Maybe they blew up the chicken man in philly last night but i didn't i didn't know there was a chicken lady maybe she avenged the shit that's that's a lyric from bruce springsteen
Starting point is 00:03:10 song anyways my name is jack o'brien aka jack to the maximum i am asking him would you like to bounce with a father that's jacking him that is courtesy of suburban panic attack and i am thrilled to be joined as always by my co-host mr miles gray miles gray democrats took another l so will they blame progressives this time not sure not sure but we shall see not interesting takes already coming out i think they will if i safe money is on yes they will of course I mean they have to there's no other way because otherwise they would have to arrive at the conclusion that they're
Starting point is 00:03:52 falling terribly short of everything and then do something so it has to be the progressives could it be me that's wrong no no it's the children it's gotta be the children hey don't no don't know nancy
Starting point is 00:04:06 don't think that blame the young blame the young people with their little green new deal or whatever it is yeah yeah well miles we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by a very talented tv writer podcast host and producer comedian and essayist she's a los angeles-based stand-up comedian. Sorry. That's a lot of jobs. Like, whoa, bitch, slow down. She co-created and produces and co-hosts the brilliant podcast Private Parts Unknown, comedy, sex, travel podcast, and is the lead producer of The Bellas Podcast. Her essays and writing have been published
Starting point is 00:04:39 in little small outlets, such as The Washington Post, LA Times, Bustle, Hello Giggles. She's written for Amazon's Emmy-winning animated series, Danger and Eggs. Please welcome the hilarious, the talented, Courtney Kozay! Hello! Hello! Thank you
Starting point is 00:04:58 for ruining my whole website. Yeah, yeah. That's what we do here. And now, and also, gallery about me and at... Greetings to the head navigation of the website. What's new? What's new, Courtney? Not much, fellas. It's been a long pandemic, but re-emerging. Just was in New York. Other than that, I've been working at my house. How is New York? What's good new york felt really normal i was there in september and then again in october
Starting point is 00:05:33 and i was like oh yeah you can just check vax cards and everything else felt good so yeah i feel like math mask adoption is pretty strong in new york city in my yeah because of the subway you can't get on the subway right unless you're wearing your mask so i feel like that right yeah frame of mind all right well courtney we're gonna get to know you a little bit better in a moment first we're gonna tell our listeners just a couple of the things that we're talking about today the democrats the democrats the things that we're talking about today. The Democrats. The Democrats. That's who we're talking about.
Starting point is 00:06:13 They failed to win in Virginia, but they succeeded in defeating a socialist mayor in Buffalo with a literal rubber stamp campaign. So we're just going to talk about the state of the Democratic Party, the state of progressivism. I am going to vent and get you guys' thoughts on where we're at, where we're headed. We will talk about some things that we learned that aren't necessarily the worst, like that critical race theory fears weren't that potent in most of the country, and some nice news, some wins for the city of Boston and Cincinnati. We will talk about, you know, the Defend the Police Movement. The Defend the Police Movement is getting more popular, but the Defund the Police Movement seems to be losing popularity.
Starting point is 00:06:57 It lost a yes-no vote in Minneapolis. So we're going to talk about where we head from here. We're going to talk about Americans' food delivery habits, America's favorite Thanksgiving sides, all of that, plenty more. But first, Courtney, we do like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history? Okay, so I looked up Philip Rodriguez last night to share a contact with someone. And he's a documentarian, and he does a lot of stuff on Latinx culture. And he was so nice. I randomly met him at a bar, and he just gave me advice, half-drunken advice for like an hour. I was like, this guy is so nice. So shout out, Philip. And then then before that i looked up an actress's
Starting point is 00:07:47 plastic surgery so one good one bad the duality of man yeah yeah shout out to this documentarian and also excellent wait you're trying to find before or didn't she or oh so you were suspecting or you're looking for a you were looking for answer, whether or not I think had been. Yeah, I suspected. And I feel like this woman's gone through a number of transformations. So but I'm not here to police women's faces. No, but just for your own curiosity, you're like, I want to make sure my skills of observation. Yes, correct. Because I feel like something has shifted. For sure. I pride myself in my ability to detect small shifts like that right right right like does is that a thing the
Starting point is 00:08:34 face can naturally do on its own i don't think so ages but forehead get tighter with age? Wrinkles evaporate. Yeah. So you've been able to kind of spot these small disturbances in the face. Yeah. I usually am like turning Sophia onto it. I'm terrible. This is private. That's funny because Sophia Sophia you're talking about Sophia Alexandra who I do for 20 day fiance with there's a there's a cast member there where people are hotly debating like what is happening to this person's face whether it's plastic surgery or not or just less stress or weight loss and it's just like one of I get the energy around that and she's been very like she's like trying to send me before and after. She's like, I don't know. Trying to.
Starting point is 00:09:26 It might not be. It just might not be. People's faces. It's one of our guilty pleasures. Yeah. It's a great, great parlor trick to be able to call it out. Right. No.
Starting point is 00:09:36 Except for that one time Demi Moore. Remember when she came out with her, with her new face right before she got with Ashton and people were like, what the fuck is this? Hey, that was. Was she in a time machine? Superior work, right. Yeah. Yeah. One of the greats. So that was work? That wasn't just like... Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:54 I feel like they put a dollar amount on that. Oh, did they? Nice. Yeah. Good for her. Yeah, it is tough to tell, like, because sometimes people just... Some people genetically age better than other people like salma hayek right yeah like what the fuck sometimes it's both you know yeah sometimes it's easier just be like that has like it's harder to be like some people will just be infinitely young
Starting point is 00:10:18 looking right i think that's a scarier proposition to some people than like no it has to be work that has to be where it can't just be these genetics are somehow on God mode. Right. What the fuck happened to me compared to that? Yeah. What is, Courtney, something that you think is overrated? Well, so I was thinking about this and then I saw that Brian Cox shaded Johnny Depp in his new memoir and he called him overrated. And I was like, yes, I feel like apropos of nothing, he just offered that up. And so I'm going to second that.
Starting point is 00:10:56 Yeah. The things he wrote in that were pretty amazing. I think we read it on here, but I do want to reread it just so people hear. Oh, you guys have already discussed? Well, no. Someone called the tweet out, I think, when it first dropped. That's right. Yeah, he's just shading a bunch of people. But I think specifically this quote really seemed to be an incisive observation. Brian Cox in his new book says, I mean, Edward Scissorhands, let's face it, if you come on with hands like that and pale, scarred face makeup, you don't have to do anything.
Starting point is 00:11:31 And he didn't. And subsequently, he's done even less, which is astray. I think that's a pretty, pretty strong takedown of the start of his career i would say that his captain jack sparrow performance is definitely not him doing nothing it's him doing he's doing he's doing a lot right right he's just doing a keith richards impression right i just love too that i in reading the quotes from brian cox i could like hear him yeah. It should have fuck off at the end of every Fuck off! Did you see the one where he was talking shit about Steven Seagal too? That was great.
Starting point is 00:12:12 He radiates a studied serenity as though he's on a higher plane to the rest of us. And while he's certainly on a different plane, no doubt about that, it's probably not a higher one. Yeah. The stories about Steven Seagal behind the scenes are truly amazing. Just somebody who left the planet the second they got even a modicum of success and fame and has been operating in a
Starting point is 00:12:40 different universe ever since in a way that is destructive to the people around him and just reality in general. Yeah. Steven. Steven. Ah, Steven. Steven. What is something that you think is underrated? This is so hard.
Starting point is 00:13:08 underrated. This is so hard. I'm going to say, okay, I'm going to do a shout out to Joan Forr is this 80 something year old woman we had on our podcast. She has, she wrote a book over the pandemic. It's called My Heart's Journey. And it's about her riding on a motor scooter across Europe in 1964. And it's so cute cute and here's the weird thing about it is like it illustrates how rapey the culture used to be it's like she's constantly being chased down by men or like being groped or like just there's all kinds of just subtle things in there where you're like oh my god right we've made a little bit of progress but anyway other than that a heartwarming book i sent it to my grandma this and wait did she write it like it's like a retrospective like she wrote it in her 80s she wrote it like recent you know in the last couple years she got bored during the pandemic and she
Starting point is 00:14:06 wrote about this like amazing adventure she went on and it was really amazing because that's scary i wouldn't do that get in a motor scooter by myself and go across europe 60s across europe no that's a challenge wait not safe is the is like blowing up? Like, is she just like, she's got her second wind? No, no, no, nobody knows about it. That's why she's underrated. Okay, okay. I like that. So if you are interested in a story about the 60s
Starting point is 00:14:34 or the story that was written by an 80-something-year-old woman or prior rapey culture, this is a good book for you. Wow. Joan F-O-o-r yeah the like up until the the 70s had a like there there's all these like very mainstream cultural artifacts from the late 70s and early 80s that are basic like blatant acts of pedophilia like there there are like i think it was brook shields was like a sex symbol as a like right child and like lulagone yeah there was this makeup or perfume ad that i commented on in my old crack show the spit take but it was like a woman dressed up as
Starting point is 00:15:21 like a you know child and in this thing and she was like licking a lollipop and she was like and the the ad said nothing sexier than a baby and then that that was just the ad and i i feel like when you go back and watch 80s movies and you have these like male characters being like well you know it's the 80s, women liberation. That's what they're lamenting. That's what's being lost in their opinion is their ability to just determine all sexual mores. It was consensual groping.
Starting point is 00:16:02 Yeah, yeah. Ah, she didn't mind. What? And also determine whether mustaches were cool or not. I feel like that was a thing that was lost at the end of the 70s and the end of the 80s. Things we lost. Yeah. Big mustache.
Starting point is 00:16:18 Big mustache America. Let's keep mustaches. We can get rid of the rapey. Yeah. There you go. Are you a fan of the rapey. Yeah, there you go. Are you a fan of mustaches? You know, they can be hot. Yeah, here and there. You know, check back on our Movember stashes.
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Starting point is 00:17:11 I look like a one because I did this in college and just looked like I was a 45-year-old stepdad. And that was before I was, you know, in my 40s. So I can't picture it. I'm excited. It's very strong and not great. It's not great. But we are going to be right back and talk about some news. How do you feel about biscuits?
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Starting point is 00:21:54 happened last night in virginia and you know the republican even though biden defeated trump by 10 points there a republican came through and defeated the Democratic incumbent. And, you know, we've talked in the past couple episodes about how this is being covered in the mainstream, that like this, this is the hope for the Republican Party, that they can take the parts of Trumpism that are helpful, discard the toxic parts and win a bunch of seats in the midterm. And that seems to have borne out. Right. Yeah. I mean, I think one thing to just keep in mind is like if you look statistically at Virginia and like since the 70s, there's only been one time a Democrat has won the presidency and then the the governor's
Starting point is 00:22:46 house didn't flip so right this is pretty much a like this is just a general pattern right i think especially like you know one in 11 that that feels like a this was going to be a pretty hard fought thing but yeah i don't i mean there's there there's a lot of work being done in Virginia to not have like a real policy for McAuliffe to like run on more than being like, Youngkin's a Republican, though. Right. So in like Trump endorsed him and we're going to buy a bunch of ads with the Youngkin's name on it. Just trying to be like, yeah, so Trump loves him. So McAuliffe. Yeah. Yeah, so Trump loves him, so McAuliffe. Yeah. Anything else?
Starting point is 00:23:37 And then in Buffalo, the Democratic primary earlier this year, a Democratic socialist, India Walton, defeated the incumbent mayor, Byron Brown. And so that was unacceptable to the establishment. And so they started distributing stamps with his name on them for people to put in the write-in part so that there would be no spelling errors and just to make it super easy, which seems like the sort of thing that you wouldn't get away with if you were not the incumbent and had been in power for four terms. But they did get away with it. Seems like they pulled it off. And so the Democrats are successfully defeating socialists, not successfully defeating Republicans. And this just kind of sent me down a spiral of I think Democrats would rather lose to a Republican than a socialist at this
Starting point is 00:24:28 point. It seems like because their entire identity is defining themselves in opposition to the Republican Party and socialism kind of throws everything out of whack because it forces them to answer questions about why they don't normally do things for their constituents. And so they are willing to, you know, get very creative. And in the case of the Buffalo mayoral race, you know, bring in a bunch of Republicans to vote for their candidate in order to defeat the Democratic Socialist. They think that a lot of the votes for the incumbent were Republicans who just came in because socialism evil. And yeah, it's it just makes me wonder, you know, as we're seeing the results in in the Biden administration of a Democratic party that is just defines itself in opposition to Republicans, but doesn't really stand for anything like it seems like more and more there it's becoming
Starting point is 00:25:32 clear that there is a absolute need for another answer. That's not the Democratic Party, but I don't know. Well, I think a lot of the discourse afterwards is it's never going to question the party or the manner, the way the government is set up or the system that we have. It's like, what? I mean, what happened with progressives are like, wow, white women really swung this thing for young can in the governor's race rather than. Holy shit. I mean, because, again, it involves a party completely self-owning by being like man we totally fucked up we're we promise shit and we don't deliver uh we have a very inconsistent platform we also have some of like the least compelling people leading the party
Starting point is 00:26:18 that really doesn't move the needle for younger people who are living in a pretty much like antithetical lived reality than the one leaders think they're in yeah so there's like a huge issue like in terms of just even like what the because like the face of the democratic party is nancy pelosi chuck schumer and joe biden right that's you know and to think that they can just kind of keep coming back to this and he'll go oh like the the speaker goat is back. Like that, that doesn't energize anyone at all or anymore. I mean,
Starting point is 00:26:49 maybe it did when they took the house, like in 2006 or whatever it was when Bush was in office. But at this point they're completely out of ideas and don't know how to speak to people and are still wondering what the problem is. And I think that's, what's really alarming. It's like, they just, I think slowly and slowly slowly and slowly like, yeah, we don't get it. We don't get it. Yeah. I mean, a lot of the responses I'm seeing are, you know, blaming,
Starting point is 00:27:19 like you were saying, like white women in Virginia for voting against their best interests. And I don't know, I like I think the missing ingredient that I hadn't fully been taking into account until like paying as much attention as we have been while doing this show for the past four years is and especially the past year when you have a democratic socialist candidate that like the mainstream media is really like part of the whole system that makes it impossible for there ever to be an alternative yes to the the big d democratic party yeah and you're just you know they treated the black lives matter protests the genuine like aggrievement and energy and grief, those coming from a nation that is being murdered with impunity, as, like, a radical movement that they're claiming scared people away. coverage where you know local news and even the new york times is portraying it as you know radical and leading to more murders and and then also like the way that the mainstream media like focuses on the small like culture war things about like tv shows removing blackface characters i just feel i feel like when you look at like if you just take a collage of all the new york times's coverage of the black lives matter movement since george floyd was murdered you would like get this melange of like radical protests that are that like ultimately are about like things that are impossible to
Starting point is 00:29:08 achieve and that like lead to a higher murder rate and right it's just like like i and then and then you know just the way that they cover socialism is also just a complete disingenuous fuck job. Yeah. It, I'm, I mean, this is also just, just beyond the media to the pattern of, Oh,
Starting point is 00:29:32 scary people of color. Yeah. That's just a fucking tactic that works all the time in this country. Unfortunately, like, you know, there's just as, you know,
Starting point is 00:29:43 especially with looking at how the BLM coverage works, it's, it's too, you know, there's just as you know, especially with looking at how the BLM coverage works. It's it's too if again, it's because all these things force reckonings and we're the country that cannot have to reckon with anything ever at all. So, you know, we're at this point, too, where like that, we're clearly at the end stage here of the most this two party system can do. The wheels are coming off. People need support. And the government, even with a party in power of everything, still can't do it. It's just like because there's all these blocks, too, without understanding. It's like, oh, do we really need to have a fundamental reconfiguration or renegotiation with how we see people's health care or how we see people's education or right to a domicile or shelter.
Starting point is 00:30:29 And that just it's some it's a conversation that's just too difficult for the established powers. So, yeah, I don't know if this is going to be, you know, like I think a lot of optimistic Democrat pundits are like, hey, man, this could be this. Now they're seeing what's going on. Now the Democratic leadership is going to see what's going on and now they're going to really do stuff. They're going to they'll figure it out. That's the good part of this is they can figure it out. I'm like, really? Because been a lot of opportunities and I haven't seen anything like that. And I haven't it seems like the Democrats are willing to fight for their ability to stay in power and then do nothing.
Starting point is 00:31:54 Like that seems to be what is ultimately their goal, regardless of what they say. Like stay in power, don't change anything, just keep the status quo. people just need to understand like really the larger point too is like the like the thing that is going to solve things is like the poison of the established powers now right so they're just in this impossible situation where they'll they can't embrace the thing that would spell their demise or their plat their platforms demise and i think that's and that's all we're watching where they're like they're unable to connect the dots because then they'd have to be like oh we suck we can't do this right you know so instead of like oh yeah yeah well hey man paid family leave man yeah two years of community college tuition free baby we got this uh 15 dollar minimum wage now to biden is pulls back on this b Biden pulls back on this. Biden pulls back on this. Right. Because, wow, it's easy to say that. And then you're like, OK, so to do that, we have to kind of fundamentally change some things about the tax code and some taxation
Starting point is 00:32:56 elements. Also, where our empathy goes, because it can no longer go to business owners and the people who are benefactors in terms of donations. So I think that has to be more of the norm that people sort of need to, at a baseline, need to understand rather than getting into like the back and forth, like, well, it's the Democrats, the Republicans, the messaging. It's no, we're at a point in society, we're at a point where we need major change, but we have people there that are completely, they're unable to change their operating system and it's incompatible with them. So I think the surprise has to end at a certain point and people have to like the larger discussion about is this the right thing at all and how can we change that?
Starting point is 00:33:35 Or what do we need to do as citizens to figure out how we can ensure these things or exert the proper influence to get people to, you know, come to the table to bring better outcomes for, you know, just general Americans. Yeah. I think climate's going to move the needle, I think the most, right? Because all these other things are things that we can ignore to a certain extent or like just put off nobody having insurance or put off minimum wage hikes or put off whatever. But when it's like, oh, we're having all these, you know, severe weather events or, you know, all these other negative outcomes, I feel like that is going to force the revolution needle a little bit more. It's the closest to the for those reasons, for sure, because it's tangible and it's very difficult to act like it's not some fantasy ghost concept that just like half the country believes in. But then you look at what's happening in Glasgow right now with sort of deals being made around climate change and you're like, oh, God, they don't fucking get it. No, I know. And again, because this is just like any just like our problems here or just as it relates to global warming, the people that are there to make the decisions, the the answer to the question spells the demise of the power structure that they've benefited from.
Starting point is 00:34:58 Right. There is it's that's just the absurdity of how leadership is running globally at the moment, because, like, again, with all the talk of like late stage capitalism and where we're at, it's like, yeah, the the momentum of all the good made to make things slightly more equitable for some people. But now, because it's been the same thing, like how can we extract the most with giving back the least, you know, it's, it's only creating this uneasiness across the country and the world where many people are starting to feel like, like, if you're not informed, it just, everything just feels like general unease and instability. But again, we're at a devastation of climate change because it is a problem that mostly affects poor people that aren't able to buy a island in New Zealand to go like weather the apocalypse on. Yeah. Or even just have like the, you know, the assets to say like, you know what, we're going to move. We're leaving this place. Pack your stuff up.
Starting point is 00:36:27 We'll put the rest in storage. And now we live in this country. Yeah. I think that's short-sighted though. Like I think that's going to catch up with people because it's not, it's so funny. I was at dinner with someone and he was like, oh, we're, it was horrible how he was saying it, but he was like, we're in that bracket, right? Like
Starting point is 00:36:46 we're, we're going to be able to escape it. And I was like, you are like a TV writer. You can, you know, like you're, you can't outrun this thing. There's not like, it's going to have a societal cost that you're going to wind up paying. Even if it's going to be like a tax that you could pay now and it could be less, or you could pay it later and you're're going to wind up paying, even if it's going to be like a tax that you could pay now and it could be less or you could pay it later and you're still going to have to pay it because you'll have to pay for your share in society crumbling basically to some extent. No. Yeah. And I think because like that mentality has been the way most people have been able to avoid the worst of like leadership or whatever is like, well, that affects a certain socioeconomic bracket.
Starting point is 00:37:30 Even if that's happening, there's a way for me to keep myself safe. And like, yeah, that thinking will take its place into the climate change discussion. But I think, yeah, like you're saying, people don't really have a rude awakening as, you know, more weather disruptions. That has been affecting the supply chain even right now. Right. Exactly. It's all those little things. Yeah. And I think when things get to the point where you have massive movements of people who are trying to escape things, you're not going to have, I mean, unless you're quite literally being like, well, I have jets and shit. Like it doesn't even fucking matter that. Okay. Maybe to you, God bless you. But for everyone else, you will realize that this is a larger question that we're
Starting point is 00:38:14 going to have to answer because the climate war will kick off when you have a group of people who are saying, I no longer live on a viable piece of land. I will die if I live here. So the only choice I have is to physically relocate. And then you're going to have people saying, well, we can't come here because we only got this much and we can't come here because we only got this much. We'll have to completely rethink what it means to live on this planet, whether it's like saying, well, you know what? We all need to pitch into a global thing to say, well, now if we have to relocate 5 million people from here, here's this massive global fund to say, well, now if we have to relocate 5 million people from here, here's this massive
Starting point is 00:38:46 global fund to say, okay, that's fine. Let's help build the infrastructure or house these people or feed them or clothe them and bring that out of everyone's pockets rather than, see, but what we're seeing now is draw the fucking castle doors up and try and say,
Starting point is 00:39:01 no, I can't get in here. Which is only going to, like, and that's where the real chaos is going to come. But that's where the, I, I'm not saying that nothing's going to change. I'm just saying as America exists right now, that's where the institutional momentum is, is like that company corporations and the extremely wealthy determined policy. that corporations and the extremely wealthy determine policy. And it's going to get real for them way later than it's going to get real for the rest of us. And I do want to raise the idea of,
Starting point is 00:39:35 a third party has always been something I've just rejected out of hand because I live in America. And I realize how absurd that sounds to most people, the idea of, you know, having a third party, but like something about this past year and Tuesday night's election has just like broken something in me. Like, I don't know. It just seems like the need for a unified and powerful, like democratic socialist movement that actually, like, takes the plight of poor people, the plight of people of color, the uncompromising climate policy, like, seriously, and, like, proposes policy that addresses it. seems i don't know what like it's just become so clear that when we let the ideas like like defunding the police replacing the police or supplementing the police with alternatives that
Starting point is 00:40:31 aren't scared armed white guys like running into mental health crises or like you know the green new deal or any socialist ideals like when those get laundered in the democratic party and the centrist media they by design get defanged they get turned into versions of themselves that are unappealing they get shit on in like the coverage and then like the results that get communicated to us and it just seems like that the system is more designed to protect against anything like that happening, anything like socialism happening in America than it is to protect against like a authoritarian white supremacist administration coming to power and harming people like that. That seems to be the lesser of two evils as far as the Democratic Party and the, you know, mainstream centrist media is concerned. Yeah. Well, it's always going to co-opt the language of the left, you know, right. To just say like because they did they did say all those things. Right. They just didn't do it. They just didn't actually take it.
Starting point is 00:41:44 Didn't do anything. They said they take it seriously, but they don't actually take it seriously. And I think that's the allure or the like intoxicating appeal sometimes of Democratic policies is that it it will put the sandwich board out saying, hey, today we are going to take these things seriously. Take these things seriously. And on the other side, it says, psych. And then that's why I feel like slowly, like you're saying, now you've come to a point where you're saying, I feel like I've been taken advantage of many times over. Or like this thing's like useless. Everyone arrives at that moment at a different time. And I think that's what's hard is trying to figure out, you know, the best way to begin to exercise that power in terms of like a pronounced or defined group of people who are sort of all moving in that direction. Also, isn't it as a robust media apparatus for leftist or progressive politics that aren't like on the fringes? You know, there's there's there's there's definitely a place for Democrats and Republicans to talk and say they're unfiltered, give their unfiltered thoughts. But where is that for people left of that?
Starting point is 00:43:05 Yeah. And I think that's also a huge problem because most people just don't have the opportunity to hear something like that either right i mean it does seem like the the fact that there is a generation that is more open to socialism than any past generation that understands media better than any of the people in existing places like at the you know new york times like that that there's something that could be done i i just like i don't that the current system just like doesn't is never going to let anything happen and we need something to happen and the republican The Republican Party was founded in 1854 as a radical abolitionist party, and it started winning states pretty quickly in the presidential election. But it was seen as a fringe party until Abraham Lincoln actually won the fucking white house and like that's it's a thing that can happen if you're facing like a shifting reality and we are facing a absolutely shifting reality in a crisis more than i think we have in the past hundred years really and i i just think like the time has gone like
Starting point is 00:44:24 there there is the need for it and just kind of assuming that it can't be done because it hasn't been done in the past hundred years is kind of no longer an option. Maybe it's like the perfect storm with like TikTok and, you know, a decentralization of how people get their news in a certain way that could propel a third party i don't know yeah well let's dream about it yeah i mean the face of the electorate is changing and the attitudes are i think we're just we're in an interesting middle period where there hasn't reached a tipping point numerically for enough people but also you have a lot of people who are turned off by politics too yeah because it's just like you know if you if you don't really if you're not as engaged you're going to be like yeah what they're going to say they're going to raise minimum wage all right they didn't like what's the right point yeah and
Starting point is 00:45:17 for so there's there's there's many issues and you know, but yeah, I'm optimistic because as you know, you're pointing out, Courtney, like younger people definitely are have their eye on it way more than I feel like we did at their age. Because we we had a relative period of seemingly OK stability, whereas if you're born in like after 2000 you've only seen like recession after recession and you're like what the fuck is this place right right yeah there were some you know silver linings in the shit storm that was election night for instance we critical race theory fears weren't as potent as i think people are going to pretend they were yeah in in a lot of the mainstream you know like right outside of dc they had some loudon county had some really wild school board meetings and protests and yet the democratic candidate won that district by double digits when you know the the republican candidate was like running on the ability to not allow people to read tony morrison
Starting point is 00:46:33 right yeah when that was the other thing yunkin did well was he he wore whatever mask in front of whatever audience that he had to right he didn't have to be consistent he'd be like yeah man we gotta we gotta get these pedophiles to stop drinking ad't have to be consistent he'd be like yeah man we gotta we gotta get these pedophiles to stop drinking adrenochrome to one crew and be like i really think that comprehensive immigration reform is necessary for me you know i mean like it was truly just this funhouse mirror candidacy but yeah like you're saying that wasn't you know loudon county okay it wasn't as pronounced of a win. There were some wins though, like in South Lake, Texas, home of Holocaust, both sides.
Starting point is 00:47:14 They took some seats there and also in a Kansas City suburb. There were some wins, but then there are also some like pronounced defeats like in Connecticut, Guilford, Connecticut, that has had also some wild anti-critical race theory school board protests the anti-crt candidates got shut out of their attempts to get on the school board there and in like iowa there were some right-wing candidates on this slate they called they called the wolves and warriors united all defeated all damn thank god yeah i wonder if that's a i wonder if that's based on the guy who goes around speaking to police forces about why they should feel okay about shooting people warrior yeah the warrior mentality and like he specifically like bases his instruction around a there are wolves and there are sheeps and all these people criticizing you are sheeps but you guys are the wolves and you got what who better to leave your young children with than a
Starting point is 00:48:11 loose collective of wolves and warriors actually i had that wrong it's he's the they are the sheep dogs and uh the wolves are the bad guys so oh i don't want to misquote him because he has some really interesting things yeah he's he's already got his back against the wall right now yeah but yeah i i there is a lot to say that you know i think a lot of people were looking heavily into that republicans like in those areas where they did win they're being like you see you see that was that was we did it with that but again i think a lot of the mood is just sort of the, just the lack of delivery on all things promised to people who voted for this administration. And also just an utter, it seemed like, you know,
Starting point is 00:48:53 I was reading some anecdotal stuff like on Twitter from people who were like involved in some elections saying that in the gubernatorial one, especially like there wasn't as much investment like in their ground game as there was for Yunkin too. And there was a lot of like just kind of ground game as there was for Youngkin, too. And there was a lot of like just kind of relying on the base to kind of do their thing. But at the end of the day, all everything's moot if no one is talking about the real problems. Right.
Starting point is 00:49:20 Because then this is just all fucking smoke show and not the hot kind. They did have to invest in all those rubber stamps up in Buffalo, so they couldn't exactly afford a robust ground game in Virginia. And, you know, Boston and Cincinnati elected their first Asian-American mayors in Michelle Wu and Aftab Parival. And both, you know, could be rising stars. I do worry about, like, continuing on a path where charismatic candidates we put all our hopes in them even though they're like part of a system that doesn't want anything to happen but you know michelle woo in particular has like some cool things to say about what she's gonna do so hey free public transit you know yeah like a few other policies i mean yeah and not just those mayoral elections like in tucson arizona where their senator kirsten cinema was said no to 15 minimum wage in tucson the city was like they voted for a 15 minimum wage cool great just doing the bare minimum i
Starting point is 00:50:19 think as it relates to what a minimum wage should even be because i think as we're if we're being realistic it should be like well like maybe fucking 30 dollars right and pittsburgh ed gainey became pittsburgh's first black mayor i mean there's there are little victories here and there but i think for now most of the punditry is around just creating like the doom democrat democrats are fucked thing and yeah go off mainstream go off don't criticize the don't let's not talk about the problems that might actually motivate someone to move in a certain direction just go like what went wrong with that guy was he too dull and boring and not appealing enough i don't know just take the logic from your sports section and bring it over to the election and talk about like wins and losses and misses.
Starting point is 00:51:09 That was a that was a clear own goal there that they really should have, you know, guarded against. Yeah. And don't don't bring any class awareness into it, please. For the love of God. What? What are you talking about? Like going to going to class in school? Don't know what you're talking about. Moving on.
Starting point is 00:51:29 Yeah, I got class, man. Yeah. I'm a classy motherfucker. I wear socks when I fuck. Why is that classy? Just a very odd person. I'm just envisioning. And you're like, dude, what?
Starting point is 00:51:42 There's silk. Yeah, there's silk. I have the sock garters. sock garters on yeah don't tell me i don't have class yeah all right let's take a quick break and we'll be right back hello everyone i am lacy lamar And I'm Amber Ruffin, a better Lacey Lamar. Boo. Okay, everybody, we have exciting news to share. We're back with season two of the Amber and Lacey, Lacey and Amber show on Will Ferrell's Big Money Players Network. You thought you had fun last season? Well, you were right.
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Starting point is 00:56:29 i i get like but sock garters for your business man sock garters yeah oh like do you remember like rendon stimpy that was the first time i saw sock garters was like on a character whose feet would just come into the frame and i was like what the fuck this what the fuck is that guy wearing i never see a man in a suit yeah anyway so i guess shout out sock garters still out here still available on amazon and then sock garter belt adjustable two packs dirty clip suspenders for your socks so you, you know, they're still out here. And you know what? I wear them, okay? I'm going to come out.
Starting point is 00:57:09 I wear sock garters and they're fine. I keep saying, Jack, they make socks with elastic on the top now, so you don't need them. Yeah. No, I like my socks to be straight leg, like straight leg jeans, just straight up. And they're just like, it's like having a hula hoop around each calf, you know? All right. Let's talk about Americans' food delivery habits. I think this is just always interesting whenever, look, we're not great admirers of Uber Eats, but let's be real. A lot of people are getting their food from different food delivery services.
Starting point is 00:57:44 And the data that they've released that Takeout published is there's some there's just some interesting fries. Not sure what that's saying about anything aside from I can't think of a dish that is going to show up like less satisfying than it ever could have. I think fucking cheese fries. I'm so confused by the. Yeah, there's another fry centric data point here, and they are the worst worst the worst things to get delivered what you're referencing is the most ordered item is french fries now this is my question is this by default because if you're going to order some other things like yeah man just get an order of fries or something or to get into the minimum sometimes you have to you know get something else oh just to hit the mini okay i see that too because i'm also thinking fries don't travel well it's only happened in a couple places where like like where you can tell
Starting point is 00:58:53 the people working there like no you need a ventilated container to put it in so the steam can escape and not just completely neutralize the crispiness from the frying. Right. I don't know. Then there's also really something interesting. They said like the most polite states, like in terms of people who would use please and thank you most in their instructions to the platform were Montana, Vermont, Oregon,
Starting point is 00:59:18 Idaho, and Washington. But they're doing that in lieu of tipping, correct? Yeah. Middle finger emoji and the words, thank and then they also said that the customers in asheville north carolina santa fe new mexico and the florida keys the most generous tippers now that's who i care about that's what shout out to those three locations yeah the florida key yeah is that because people is that because it's not
Starting point is 00:59:43 you can't be like broke and live in the florida keys it also might because people is that because it's not you can't be like broke and live in the florida keys it also might just be a it's probably that but there's a lot of rich people everywhere it also might just be a enormous pain in the ass for them to get the food like from oh yeah a restaurant yeah well there's like one way in and out so like you know oh they're like dude you had to take a ferry here's right yeah here's an extra nickel just show up on a fan boat out back with your order of cheese fries then they said uh in like picky estates in terms of people like the most intensive instruct special instructions connecticut new york new jersey illinois and georgia while the least picky were
Starting point is 01:00:26 in west virginia delaware utah south dakota and missouri hardly ever any special instructions from those people yeah i i would just say to them you can add special instructions that's something that i often felt weird about in the past, but I mean, it's fine, right? They'll get them like a third of the time. Yeah. It's worth a punt. That's why you just got to be polite.
Starting point is 01:00:52 Whenever I've had ever special instructions, which brings me to this next section where they were putting together like really polite or interesting instructions. And this one spoke to my heart as a spicy food eater who food is never spicy enough for him, this person and their special instructions. They didn't say what restaurant, but they just said this quote, instructions and this one spoke to my heart as a spicy food eater who food is never spicy enough for him this person and their special instructions they didn't say what restaurant but they just said this quote let's give this a try tonight please i like hot and spicy two exclamation points make me cry cry emoji and hot face cry emoji hot please make me hurt make extra extra extra burning super super hot and spicy six flame emoji
Starting point is 01:01:29 make it so spicy you would not even eat so spicy and i'm aroused i felt that for sure make me cry i'm like wow yes daddy i'm like what are you ordering to like bananas right what indeed what yeah or they're trying to murder somebody like in dumb and dumber you know why don't you have a tiny bite yeah my ulsa the the most ordered things being French fries, Amant sticks are on there, which another thing that is usually not good. I just have to like people, American restaurants, all restaurants need to like go do a ride along for a day at a Korean restaurant. a ride along for a day at a Korean restaurant. Korean restaurants somehow manage to let the food stay so hot when it arrives. They do such a great job with that.
Starting point is 01:02:32 And it's not because you live near Koreatown. I mean, it could be. It's like it only travels like a mile. They should try that. What are they doing? What's the secret, Korean restaurants? But it's not like it gets here quickly. So I don't know.
Starting point is 01:02:53 Maybe it is. Maybe it is just a matter of distance. But they figured something out. Look, I get mozzarella. Sometimes you just want to hurt. Yeah. But you want to eat just a fucking police baton that's been deep fried. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:03:12 That hurt my stomach. Sometimes you get the, like, when it's like, when they get real bad, you're like, oh, my God. It's returned to its string cheese state. Yeah. Just in a nice breading. Okay. Yeah. Bearded string cheese. It's not great.
Starting point is 01:03:30 Can we get to these Thanksgiving sides? Yeah, we should get to the Thanksgiving sides. I would just say one thing in defense of mod sticks is you can put them in the microwave and they'll be okay. Whereas fries, that doesn't work. No, toaster oven. I can kind of, if they're thick enough, you can kind of bring fries back to life in a toaster oven.
Starting point is 01:03:47 Air fryer. That might be what's happening. The rise of the air fryer. People are realizing you can just put a stack there. Fries, you can feed your dog. Mott sticks, probably don't want to do that. Yeah. Just another point of view. I don't want to upset my dog. My dog loves mott sticks.
Starting point is 01:04:05 No, that's fine. We'll always feed you mod sticks. I'm really concerned. And chili, right? You were saying chili and chili dogs. Chili, mod sticks, chili dogs, glizzies, an all-glizzy diet. You know, that's how Rimby gets down. All right.
Starting point is 01:04:20 Yeah. And then we have another food map. Yet another map with America's favorite fill in the blank. This time we are looking at Thanksgiving sides. I believe we have done this before in the past. I am curious if there's any carryover from the past, but let's get into it. What are we seeing here? What surprises us?
Starting point is 01:04:40 What are we seeing here? What surprises us? I mean, it seems like more than anything, baked potato or mashed potatoes seem to be one of the most popular things just across the board. What is really interesting to me that in Missouri and in Minnesota, the two big sides are charcuterie tray. Aren't you from Minnesota, Courtney? I don't think that's true. I am. Aren't you from Minnesota, Courtney? I don't think that's true. I am.
Starting point is 01:05:02 And I was like, are people looking up things they don't know how to make? Right. Or things they don't know what it means? Right. It's actually the stupidest states because people in California are like, mashed potatoes? How do I do that? Right. But I've never seen a charcuterie tray at a Thanksgiving my entire time in Minnesota, I don't think.
Starting point is 01:05:26 Right. Maybe that's family specific. I see like little finger foods, right? I've been to people's houses where like they'll do like some little stuffed mushrooms or like little things to nibble on to get you through to the main event. That's when I've been to like a very considerate person. And when I say considerate to people who show up high as shit and are very hungry already. Those kind of situations. Finger foods for sure.
Starting point is 01:05:50 But like, are we talking about like cheese cracker, little meat kind of shit? What are we doing? I don't see that. Yeah. They are more likely to have big like gatherings and charcuterie trays, something that's easy to Google because you don't even need like instructions. You just need a picture, basically. There's also another thing, too, where like there's levels to it. Right. Because there are people who are like, I've been to Europe. This is not charcuterie.
Starting point is 01:06:22 And then you'll go to Ralph's and shit. And I've seen some shit like boar's head charcuterie tray. And it go to ralph's and shit and i've seen some shit's like boar's head charcuterie tray and it's like loose salami and provolone so there's levels to it so they could just be like oh yeah meat and cheese tray right but the language is elevating it and i can for sure see my aunts being like yeah i know this this tray of like broken crackers that's a charcuterie tray no ma'am that's not i do want to give one piece of evidence that this map does know what the fuck they're talking about because hash brown casserole is a reigning champ in kentucky and tennessee that is something that i have experienced a shout out to marisa one of my longtime friends who makes that and she is from kentucky and it is fucking what is it because that i feel like
Starting point is 01:07:13 you should share it the recipe yeah yeah of all the things i was looking at on here that really caught my eye because i love that combination of words yes let me get off of the businessman sock garters uh board that i was just on pinterest board you're just because i i can't remember exactly what it is other than that it is fucking really good and like i usually eat three helpings so cracker barrel offers a recipe for a hash brownerole. It's basically cheese and hash browns. I think she has some like bacon in there or some. It's just so good. And it's crispy and soft and hot and always, always good. This is like a hybrid.
Starting point is 01:07:54 Like if mac and cheese and mashed potatoes fell in love. This would be their bi-side racial baby. Right. Yeah, yeah. this is fantastic yeah that one and then white gravy also caught my eye and i think it was at arkansas yeah but does that just mean country gravy i don't know yeah i guess so yeah that seems right it can't be like that racist right white gravy white fruit salad had me kind of disappointed. Who's going with fruit salad?
Starting point is 01:08:28 North Dakota. Oh. Well. Or side salad. It's like you guys, there's a lot of other days in the year. Idaho. You're the potato goat and you're out here Googling side salads? Yeah. They're sandwiched between Oregon and another square state with baked potatoes and mashed potatoes, Wyoming.
Starting point is 01:08:48 And they got side salad. Yeah. What's everyone's? Oh, and also interesting in Delaware, cauliflower mashed potatoes. OK. Yeah, Delaware. OK. Somebody's doing healthy.
Starting point is 01:08:59 What's everybody's favorite, though, unequivocally? Unequivocally, Iivocally i gotta say rolls okay okay this is a very popular answer florida yeah i love the states they're just like rolls has anybody ever seen baked potatoes as a thanksgiving side i don't know i think that is as a thanksgiving i feel like yeah you forgot a step it's mashed yeah yeahbaked potatoes I have seen, and those are really good. I think I'm going to go with hash brown casserole. And then my mom makes really good sweet potato
Starting point is 01:09:32 casserole. Just fucking drown me in casserole. There you go. I'm going to go mashed potatoes and green bean casserole. Mmm. Okay. I love stuffing and gravy. Just put all and green bean casserole. Oh, okay. I love stuffing and gravy.
Starting point is 01:09:51 Just put all, just drown the stuffing and gravy. Like I could just eat that. I'm fucking sick. I was trying to be creative with my answer, but that might be my real answer. Just stuffing? Stuffing with gravy, man. Yeah, that's my favorite because when I eat it, I leave that shit at the end.
Starting point is 01:10:06 It's so weird how I have like this deferred gratification strategy on eating a Thanksgiving plate. When I'm like, let me get the turkey down. Because that's like the least interesting thing to me. And then I move to the epic sides. And then I get finally for the last fucking the coup de grace. I hit the fucking stuffing with gravy. Now, another one that I've not seen in my experience or even seen like really depicted in media, in addition to baked potatoes, is stuffed mushrooms. But stuffed mushrooms, I'm very intrigued by.
Starting point is 01:10:40 Yeah. Yeah. I've had them before, just not as a not as a thanksgiving yeah wrong day right it's a great it's a great it's a great hors d'oeuvre i will say that i've because i've had that at one of those places like i said consider it considering the high people that arrive with already a ravenous hunger yeah who might be unemployed and didn't eat dinner the night before back in that day that was something something that I absolutely fell in love with. What is cornbread dressing?
Starting point is 01:11:08 Is that just stuffing made of cornbread? Yeah, it must be. That's Louisiana. Yeah. Okay. That sounds good too. This just made me hungry and excited for Thanksgiving. Honestly, Hashbrown, Zygang, please tweet at me.
Starting point is 01:11:21 I'll tweet something. Please hit me with your recipes for any of these things, because I'm really curious. Last time I asked for stuff on my birthday, I got some like amazing recipe ideas. If you got a hash brown casserole for someone like me who's about to venture into new uncharted waters, please help me out. What's the best way to do this? Well, Courtney, it's been such a pleasure having you as always. Where can people find you and follow you? It's so fun to be here.
Starting point is 01:11:48 I am at Courtney Kosak, last name K-O-C-A-K, on everywhere. Yeah, yeah. And is there a tweet or some of the work of social media you've been enjoying? Oh, yeah. I saw something from the Zeitgang. Zeitgang union members sound off. I'm just saying that vibing with Daily Zeitgeist, Miles and Jack is my other love language.
Starting point is 01:12:13 Solidarity, union strong, especially if followed by the Sophia 420 Day Fiance and Private Parts Unknown. Ay! Holler. Trinity of shows. They call that the Trinity. The Holy Trinity. And private parts unknown. Ay! Holler. Trinity shows. They call that the Trinity.
Starting point is 01:12:26 Yeah. The Holy Trinity. Yeah. Miles, where can people find you? What is a tweet you've been enjoying? You can find me on Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Grey. Also, the other show, 420 Day Fiance with Sophia Alexander, where we talk 90 Day Fiance. First tweet I like is from at Wavy's world wrld tweeting bro i hate when babies start acting brand new like motherfucker it's me i just saw you last week and we were best
Starting point is 01:12:53 friends don't do this to me which is interesting because you do have those moments where you're like this baby like we're vibing and then next time you're like right uh you're like, this baby, like we're vibing. And then next time you're like, right, you're still learning object permanence. That's fine. Next one is from Folake, at Folake, F-0-L-A-K-E, tweeted, LA be like, we're going to make a city so unwalkable you have to drive. While simultaneously giving you nowhere to park if you do drive. But if you find parking, we will give you a ticket. Feels pretty spot on and then miami bay tweeted i hope this email finds you face down ass up absolutely that's how i'm starting my way we like to email yeah let's see some tweets i've been enjoying. Brow tweeting tweeted,
Starting point is 01:13:47 Date, I'm an expert in genealogy. Me, mouth full of bread. How does he fit in the lamp? And then Juju tweeted, You changed. Bro, we were 13. Oh, shit. That's fucking real.
Starting point is 01:14:04 That is absolutely real. That's too real. Especially in male relationships. My God. You changed, shit. That's fucking real. That is absolutely real. That's too real. Especially in male relationships. My God. You changed, man. Bro, what the fuck happened? I was like, I was 17 and off my face on Xanax all the time. Things were not good. I can remember shit now.
Starting point is 01:14:18 Yeah. I'm a lot different now. Well, you can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, DailyZeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes.
Starting point is 01:14:34 Footnotes. We link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode as well as a song that we think you might enjoy. Miles, what song do we think people might enjoy today? I think another great collection of artists collaborating this is masego big boy okay and j and jit together on a track called garden party masego's got a great voice jit is a great lyricist and mc and you know big boy you
Starting point is 01:14:59 already know baddie daddy fat stacks b-i-g-b-o-i he is that same motherfucker that took them knuckles to your eye uh he is also on this track and like it's cool just to hear these you know newer artists with big boy and like some good forward-thinking melodic production it kind of reminds me of a potential outcast track without drink so well the daily zeitgeist is a production of iheart radio for more podcasts from iheart radio visit the iheart radio iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. That is going to do it for us this morning, but we're back this afternoon to tell you what's trending, and we will talk to y'all then.
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