The Daily Zeitgeist - Trend Reznor 2/8: M Night Shymalan, Hannah Montana, Bitcoin, Kevin Garnett, Gorilla Glue

Episode Date: February 8, 2021

On this edition of Trend Reznor Jack and Miles discuss a new M Night Shymalan movie coming out called "Old", Miley Cyrus' Super Bowl performance, Tesla buying $1.5B in Bitcoin skyrocketing the value, ...Kevin Garnett saying Basketball has changed and is more "saucy" now, and updates from Gorilla Glue Hair Girl. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I'm Dr. Laurie Santos, host of the Happiness Lab podcast. As the U.S. elections approach, it can feel like we're angrier and more divided than ever. But in a new, hopeful season of my podcast, I'll share what the science really shows, that we're surprisingly more united than most people think. We all know something is wrong in our culture, in our politics, and that we need to do better and that we can do better. Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts. In 1982, Atari players had one game on their minds,
Starting point is 00:00:35 Sword Quest, because the company had promised 150 grand in prizes to four finalists. But the prizes disappeared, leading to one of the biggest controversies in 80s pop culture. I'm Jamie Loftus. Join me this spring for The Legend of Sword Quest. We'll follow the quest for lost treasure across four decades. Listen to The Legend of Sword Quest on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, fam. I'm Simone Boyce. I'm Danielle Robay. And we're the hosts of The Bright Side, the podcast from Hello Sunshine that's guaranteed to light up your day. Check out our recent episode with Grammy Award-winning rapper Eve on motherhood and the music industry.
Starting point is 00:01:19 No, it's a great, amazing, beautiful thing. There's moms in all industries, very high-stress industries, that have kids all across this world. Why can't it be music as well? Listen to The Bright Side from Hello Sunshine on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Daphne Caruana Galizia
Starting point is 00:01:40 was a Maltese investigative journalist who on October 16th, 2017, was assassinated. Crooks Everywhere unearths the plot to murder a one-woman WikiLeaks. She exposed the culture of crime and corruption that were turning her beloved country into a mafia state. Listen to Crooks Everywhere starting September 25th
Starting point is 00:02:01 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Of all time. Who gave us that? Mr. Miles? Oh, man. This one came all the way from Discord from Rory the Scrivener. Rory the Scrivener. Dynamite. Classics. How come you like, you a big Trent Reznor fan? You a big Nine Inch Nails guy? No, it's just funny.
Starting point is 00:02:37 I'm actually not at all. I love Trent Reznor. I love Nine Inch Nails. I love all the scoring he does with Atticus Ross. I think the shit is so good. That's definitely one of those dudes who I feel like I just would have loved and just missed. Yeah. I have all the overlapping things, but I just never got into it.
Starting point is 00:02:55 Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was doing this thing. I was trying to get Her Majesty into Lost because I've got her buy-in on Lindelof IPs after watching Watchmen. Wait, are you a head like all the way to the end i've i watched lost all the way to the end but i didn't like not in i wasn't like heavy in it at the time like i i was one of those things where i didn't like all the people that i knew who said lost was a good show like in 2004 i was like yo just because y'all like it i'm not watching it and then i was like yo i was i remember i was sick, and I borrowed the first season on DVD,
Starting point is 00:03:27 and I blew through that shit, and I was like, damn. This shit's cheesy, but they know how to write those hooks. Anyway, I was just thinking how much better Lost could be if it had the Leftovers soundtrack underneath it, or even the Watchmen one, because there are moments where the soundtrack just doesn't hit. No. And I think it was like Peter Giacchinoino whoever did the score but when you got uh trent resner versus like whoever is
Starting point is 00:03:52 doing soundtracks at like a network yeah probably not comparable how yeah how haunted are you because trent resner is a ghost basically yeah i never i i dropped lost in season i think it was three or two when like they started they were like there was an episode where something happened in the second episode there the next episode was just that same thing happening but from a different perspective i was like man they're just spinning their wheels fuck this oh that was probably maybe like when they were opening the hatch. Yeah. It was like right after they opened the hatch.
Starting point is 00:04:27 And, but then like there, there are different people who watched it all the way to the end, who I respect, who are like, you gotta watch it to the end. Like Cody Johnson still is like, it's a masterpiece and like has his way of explaining all the different stuff. right. And I respect his opinion but I still
Starting point is 00:04:48 it's a lot of time to invest. Yeah I mean it's not going to be a look it's like anything it's we're probably going to lose momentum and that's and then we'll then we'll snipe at each other about well you started watching the other episodes when I wasn't watching so what was I supposed to do I'm like okay fine fine fine we'll find a new
Starting point is 00:05:04 show. Watching Better Call Saul very good uh still watching that yeah i like that one my wife was out of town for a couple weeks so i i took a break but we're back at it and it's real good um all right what's miles what uh welcome back first of all this is gonna be the first time we'll hear you yeah yeah i'm back baby back baby never lost uh and this is going to be the first time people hear you back. Yeah, I'm back, baby. Back, baby. Never lost. And it's great to have you back. Let's tell the people a couple of the things that are trending. There's a couple Super Bowl sort of residue stories.
Starting point is 00:05:37 We talk more in depth about the Super Bowl on tomorrow's full lap. But as of right now, M. Night Shyamalan is trending because he dropped a trailer for his new movie during the Super Bowl. And I don't know. I guess people are freaked out and intrigued by it. It strikes me as very, I don't know, I getting real the happening vibes from it but uh just like sort of a silly concept that you're like well it's shamalan so he'll probably pull it off and then it doesn't come together but that could just be me yeah i don't i mean we i don't know the super bowl i had it on half the commercials looked like normal commercials to me, like when I could hear that we were going to a commercial break.
Starting point is 00:06:28 But yeah, Shyamalan, good for you, Mr. Shyamalan. You know, do your thing. Keep riding off the strength of the sixth sense. I mean, that's also kind of the thing I love about M. Night Shyamalan is that he's still just coasting off the strength of a couple movies early on. And somehow people have completely forgotten the L's along the way. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:50 Yo credit where it's due. Yeah. Daniel O'Brien, who I used to work with at cracked had like told me about this theory that I don't think he came up with it, but he talked about it. The, this idea that some artists
Starting point is 00:07:06 are always trying to write the same novel over and over again, and some are always doing different things. There were two different versions, but I feel like M. Night Shyamalan is one of those people who's always trying to write the perfect version of the same thing but he kind of perfected
Starting point is 00:07:27 it the first time around so like he doesn't really need to yeah uh but anyways the the movie is called old oh let me guess like the birds we're gonna make old scary um and it's people are at a pretty beach um and it's like a one of those hidden beaches but then like like the beach one of the kids goes missing and then the kid shows back up and the kid is like 25 now he was seven when he went missing he's older oh fuck off what come on what sort of magic is at work here what's he trying to say shamalan yeah that we can't stop time and we're mortal what the fuck uh yeah i i will wait to see what other people i'm still hopeful every time a new m night shamalan movie comes out that people are gonna be like yo it's amazing. He did it.
Starting point is 00:08:26 I remember the happening. I remember seeing the trailer. I was like, okay, this is fucking weird. And then I remember my friend just gave me the weirdest explanation. I was like, I remember back in the day when people went to movies, they were like, yo, I just saw it fucking happen. I was like, oh, was it good?
Starting point is 00:08:39 And like, man, it's the fucking trees or some shit. Don't worry about it. It's fucking dumb. And I was like, what? And that's all I know about the happening is my friend be like, it's the fucking trees or some shit. Don't worry about it. It's fucking dumb. And I was like, what? And that's all I know about the happening is my friend being like, it's the fucking trees or some shit. And I was like, okay, I don't care.
Starting point is 00:08:49 Just how sort of casual and incredulous they were. And Mark Wahlberg as a scientist. So shout out to y'all. Hannah Montana slash Miley Cyrus, who rumors have it are the same person uh but they are uh she she is trending because she i guess did a super bowl opening show i was i was a little confused as to like were the people who sang the National Anthem bigger stars than I realized?
Starting point is 00:09:26 Because it was like a country singer and an actual singer who I wasn't that familiar with. I don't. Look, I barely watched the game. Right. So I didn't even know. The last time I paid attention to the national anthem was on Lady Gaga. I sang it and I had a prop bet on how long she would go. Right.
Starting point is 00:09:49 Yeah. Yeah. So I apologize to whoever. Guessing she hit the over? Oh, hell yeah. She hit the over. So 2018, Pink. 2019, Gladys Knight.
Starting point is 00:10:01 2020, Demi Lovato. 2021, Eric Church and Jasmine Sullivan. Huh? I don't know who, who, who that is. Who's Jasmine Sullivan. She was the one who was a really good singer.
Starting point is 00:10:15 And then Eric Church was just playing guitar and just twanging his way through it. Oh, who say it was the, uh, national anthem performance equivalent of the bruce springsteen jeep commercial let's bring in oh got it the two americas together can't we all just get along and can't we all just forget about de facto white supremacy yeah keep crossing over that but
Starting point is 00:10:41 anyways uh this got people talking about like mileyiley Cyrus would be a dope halftime show next year. And that's still like kind of that's the one thing that still holds up. I still will watch every halftime show. I still like the conversations around it. Even though the weekend was like not everybody was fully on board. It was still fun to like hear people's takes on it because it's actually like a an elaborate you know piece of live it's just a weird form of annual american pageantry like there really isn't another thing where it's like cram all this bullshit into one day and it's like
Starting point is 00:11:20 we've got it all guys getting concussed fucking bombers that will fly over and make you think, are they going to drop a bomb on us? I don't know, but that's what's cool about our military. Then have some stars come out who might be struggling with addiction and a big dance number. You know what I mean? Then someone has to call out a corporation by name at the end of the game. It's everything. It's got it all oh did that happen i actually didn't watch the post game did did tom brady say i'm going to
Starting point is 00:11:51 disney world and drinking some budweiser on the way and my u.s air right exactly ticket all right maga y'all brady out deuce uh bitcoin is trending uh because uh elon musk bought like 1.5 bills as uh we call it in the billionaire game uh 1.5 billion dollars of bitcoin and that caused bitcoin to shoot through the roof um yep about like 14 you know is this gonna be a thing now where... It's going to be a kind of shitty headline. But yeah, the stock market is now... Because one interesting thing happened on the stock market, now it's like we are treating different stocks like... I don't know.
Starting point is 00:12:41 They're interesting inherently. I don't know they're interesting inherently um right i don't really care i know i know bitcoin and cryptos are like more interesting than uh like just regular stocks according to dudes who would love to talk to you about cryptos for a half hour but i don't know i just this is a new era for me where and a lot of the people who want to talk to you about stocks are just people who are like uh just rise and grind dude we're just gonna get my hustle on you got to make that paper type shit and i'm just like so bored by it i don't like that paper paper paper i mean yeah look cool shout out to all the aspiring gazillionaires. Yeah. Yeah. Because it's like that thing where like, it's like when one person found out that like the
Starting point is 00:13:29 Princess Diana beanie baby was worth a lot of money. Right. And they were, oh, she's fucking beanie babies. It's like, well, you know what? It's late, bro. It's late for that. You just found out. The stock market beanie baby.
Starting point is 00:13:39 You just found out about Dogecoin. It's too late. You should have gotten in when that shit was fractions of us but you know what uh i think it's weird because i feel like on one side a lot of the traders and like wall street traders like it's it's all chaos but i have a feeling it's going to inspire a lot of naive people to enter stock the stock market just because of like this one sort of anecdote about like regular people getting rich without like really picking apart the nuances of how like predatory wall street trading can be
Starting point is 00:14:12 yeah the end of that story is the regular people all got shut out by like the relationships between the app and the brokerage houses and like people got screwed and and the message that the media takes from that is well people must be interested in uh stock market stories um but i guess they are because this is number one trending thing on google i mean i'm not gonna lie i feel like every person i know has talked about it whether it's a joke or people who are legitimately interested in the stock market but it has been coming off of everyone's lips i think because there is something there's a deeper appeal in that like this collective action helped fight like just fuck over a hedge fund and that whether they're in it for the bit or the coin man uh jokes some people are just coming straight from your lips bro straight off
Starting point is 00:15:08 the lips uh kevin garnett is trending uh now for a story i do care about uh kevin yeah so what what did kevin garnett have to say he's trending because he basically said, I don't know if people from my generation of the NBA could actually play in today's league. Truth. And he gave it up. You know, because a lot of, what if Kevin Garnett was guarding Joker? No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:15:41 And now in this New York Times article, because he has a book coming out, so a great time for him to give an interview. But his quote is really interesting. He was saying, like, you know, the league's changed. I'll read you this thing because if you're a basketball fan, this will be really interesting to you. Quote, 20 years ago, guys used their hands to control players.
Starting point is 00:15:57 Now you can't use your hands. That makes defense damn near impossible. Can you imagine not hand-checking Michael Jordan? No. The fact that you can't touch players gives the offensive players so much flexibility. Defensive players have to take angles away and stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:16:10 But if you have any creativity and ambition, you can be a great offensive player in this league. He talks about how Dirk came through with his one-legged shots and things like that, and Joker's kind of iterating on that. And now he's saying, and Steph curry revolutionized things with being able to shoot it from distance with such consistency claim clay thompson dame
Starting point is 00:16:29 lillard these guards changed the game i don't know if even the guards from 20 or 30 years ago could play in this time right here it's creative it's competitive it's saucy you'll get dropped a motherfucker will cross you over and break your acl these days the game is in a great place um i mean this is by far the truest thing that i've heard an ex-player say about the just the way the game progresses it's not to say that if kevin garnett was you know 22 today he wouldn't be in the league his game would just be different because he came up on a different version of basketball that is more advanced it's right like yeah sure like bob koozie will get fucking served and you know whenever like i get that or like bob mcadoo like what do you want to
Starting point is 00:17:15 talk about like we yes you transported them in a time machine from their their era of the league to today yeah they wouldn't be shit but they would have grown up at a time when the game was different like now any 22 year old grew up knowing about kevin garnett's game knowing it's the same way that like people are like well animal house isn't funny to me anymore like that is kind of true for me, but that doesn't change the fact that that was funny at the time. It's just that Chris Farley's shit was built on top of Jim Belushi. Not Jim Belushi. John Belushi's shit. And so that stuff is less funny to me in the present moment.
Starting point is 00:18:02 It's like all basketball athleticism like it's they're improving training they're improving everything and they're learning by watching yeah like you're not gonna watch tape of bill russell and be like oh shit like you know what i mean like yeah he was dominant but there's just another level of dynamism in the game now and like it's truly i remember i remember like in the era of you know the m1 mixtape becoming really popular and i was like yo like this is how the what where the fuck is this skill in the nba and not that it's the same game but like we're starting to see more of that like excitement of and expression offensively and dribbling with all that like it feels like
Starting point is 00:18:43 it's evolving yes like kevin garnett sees it like it's moving past this other thing um and it's just becoming like you said someone could cross you up bye-bye acl and that's just where we're at right now people are dangerous out there on the court nice with the ball so protect yourself yeah that's what i mean the fact that lebron is still the best player in the league is wild to that that makes the fact that because he started out in a league that was totally different and has right improved his game and pushed the game forward as he improves his game like that yeah that's what i'm saying there's only a few people i can think that could play now right yeah alan
Starting point is 00:19:22 iverson could play now he couldn't play the same way no and kevin garnett couldn't play the same game but he would probably be able to be like a knockdown three-point shooter like yeah and it's just athleticism like imagine what happens with with alan iverson being forged in the fires that the players of today are but whatever that's just a weird thought experiment that we'll reserve for our video game fantasy lineups that we put together yeah the speaking of video game fantasy though the like over the weekend steph curry was playing against uh uh not i'm luca donchich and that game was wild he was pulling up not like from like almost half court he was pulling up like standing on the logo at half court on a fast break and draining threes from like half court it's really next
Starting point is 00:20:13 level shit okay when damian lee was like fuck up little boy i was like this is great i love this shit talking uh and shit talking though i would be interested in a purely shit talking league. Because that's one thing that it doesn't matter where the game's at. If you're sick with your mouth, you know what I mean? I'm curious to see how someone will get in someone's head. I bet there could be something really interesting to be like, nah, man. Get all the epic shit talkers together. Because Michael Jordan, you can only imagine what
Starting point is 00:20:45 he would say to people now who michael jordan oh yeah michael jordan although michael jordan i was less impressed with like when you see him talk shit behind the scenes it's just like because he's so cool and the best player ever people give him an extra like benefit of the doubt because like the stuff he was saying was actually not cool like but he's just deadly you know yeah um like when he was playing those coin games with the the security guards the security guards like their shit talking was better than his it's just oh yeah that's true the one dude with the perm the dude with the perm yes legendary and then finally uh gorilla glue still trending we talked weed uh last week's episode uh joelle and tess and i i believe talked about a young woman who uh did a sort of a psa on i think it was tiktok where she was like do not put
Starting point is 00:21:49 gorilla glue in your hair um because that is it is not like i guess there is a hair product called gorilla snot um oh yeah she has another product called can't believe it's not glue or something like that uh something along the lines of like this is basically glue for your hair and she was like gorilla glue is not neither of those products you should not put it in your hair right it has been and she like kind of showed her hair and it looks like you know like a a toy's hair like it just looks like straight plastic. She's like, it's been like this for, uh, we all hairs, um, over the weekend.
Starting point is 00:22:28 And she showed a picture of herself in the, uh, hospital, like trying to get this taken care of. And now she may be, uh, suing gorilla glue or, uh,
Starting point is 00:22:41 you missed, I don't know, but you misused their product, correct? Yeah. but uh you missed i don't know but you misused their product correct yeah what you mean this valvoline 10w30 motor oil ain't mouthwash like what what what case do you have i mean like when it says it's not for topical use like i get you trying to you need the fucking wild spike that's harder than fucking you know stalagmites in the antarctic but like what i don't know so one of the things is that the gorilla glue comes in a spray form which i was a little
Starting point is 00:23:12 confused by why why does it need to oh so it's almost like i'm naive there's a lot of confusion who would have thought look honestly i thought home depot sold hair care products y'all not here i mean they sell snacks at the front yeah right so all right well good luck to them um you know but i think the confusion comes from the other two brands sure the hair products that talk about glue and talk about gorilla like that is going to this is what the trial is going to sound like. Right. Your honor. It's that there's other products using gorilla or glue.
Starting point is 00:23:52 And then it, it coming in a spray form, which most hairsprays are sprays. Your honor. Uh, I rest my case, right? It doesn't,
Starting point is 00:24:04 it doesn't, it's not gorilla glues fault though. Probably is what, is what they're going to It doesn't. It doesn't. It's not Gorilla Glue's fault, though. Probably is what they're going to end up at. I would imagine. Yeah. I mean, I can't. Whatever. Like, especially if it's a good look to everybody.
Starting point is 00:24:14 The person trying to sue a corporation that's in America. Come on. Come on, buddy. Come on, pal. We make even when they have a good point, like in the McDonald's coffee thing, we make a joke of those people. Right. I was thinking one last thing about Kevin Garnett. Me and my boy Chris, we used to wear rubber bands like Kevin Garnett.
Starting point is 00:24:36 Yeah, because I remember in Slam, he had an article when he just got in the league out of Farragut Academy. He was like, yeah, like I wear rubber bands because I couldn't afford jewelry. fairgate academy he was like yeah like i wear rubber bands because i couldn't afford jewelry so these are like there to remind me like that i that i can ice my wrist now but also like just to remind me of like where i come oh shit i used to wear two rubber bands shout out kg except when you were on the celtics hoe uh i used to wear rubber bands too i think i actually wore it before him though oh shit all right let him know all right well miles uh once again great having you back that is gonna do it for uh this afternoon we are back tomorrow with the whole last episode of the show until then be kind to each other be kind to yourselves wear a mask wash your hands stay inside don't do nothing about white supremacy
Starting point is 00:25:24 and we'll talk to you all tomorrow. Bye. Bye. I'm Dr. Laurie Santos, host of the Happiness Lab podcast. As the U.S. elections approach, it can feel like we're angrier and more divided than ever. But in a new, hopeful season of my podcast, I'll share what the science really shows. That we're surprisingly more united than most people think. We all know something is wrong in our culture, in our politics, and that we need to do better and that we can do better.
Starting point is 00:25:56 Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts. In 1982, Atari players had one game on their minds, Sword Quest, because the company had promised 150 grand in prizes to four finalists. But the prizes disappeared, leading to one of the biggest controversies in 80s pop culture. I'm Jamie Loftus. Join me this spring for The Legend of Sword Quest. We'll follow the quest for lost treasure across four decades. Listen to The Legend of Sword Quest on the'll follow the quest for lost treasure across four decades. Listen to The Legend of Sword Quest on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:26:33 Hey, fam. I'm Simone Boyce. I'm Danielle Robay. And we're the hosts of The Bright Side, the podcast from Hello Sunshine that's guaranteed to light up your day. Check out our recent episode with Grammy Award winning rapper Eve on motherhood and the music industry. No, it's a great, amazing, beautiful thing.
Starting point is 00:26:53 There's moms in all industries, very high stress industries that have kids all across this world. Why can't it be music as well? Listen to The Bright Side from Hello Sunshine on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Daphne Caruana Galizia was a Maltese investigative journalist who on October 16th, 2017, was assassinated. Crooks everywhere unearthed the plot to murder a one-woman WikiLeaks.
Starting point is 00:27:21 She exposed the culture of crime and corruption that were turning her beloved country into a mafia state. Listen to Crooks everywhere starting September 25th on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

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