The Daily Zeitgeist - Trend The Nominees Are… 1/23: Oscars, Newsmax, Trump, Biden, New Hampshire
Episode Date: January 23, 2024In this edition of Trend The Nominees Are…, Jack and Miles discuss the 2024 Oscar nominations, Newsmax's defense of Trump's Nancy Pelosi/Nikki Haley flub, Trump's "Iron Dome" jazz solo, and Biden no...t being on the ballot in NH!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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hello the internet and welcome to this episode of trend the nominees are oh my name or aren't
jack or aren't miles we're talking about snubs and flubs as well as the noms.
This is
Dirty Daily Night, guys!
Oh, shit.
Working on my shit.
I'm trying to get a job with flubs.
Oh, man. Your teeth aren't white
enough. You need more of a bad
tan and hyper white
teeth. Yeah, my teeth whitening budget
would be make it actually a
loss leader yeah what about some highlights jack you think about some highlights in your on my teeth
none yeah just every other tooth just frosted tips just do some frosted tips on your canines
oh man good i never did highlights or frosted tips or anything.
Wow.
But I feel like now might be the time, don't you?
Just Guy Fieri with Fieri stuff.
Go Fieri on their ass.
Hell yeah.
Why not?
Hell yeah, brother.
Hell yeah, brother.
Here we are. I am Jack.
That is Mr. Miles Gray.
Yeah.
The man with the frosted tips.
Yeah.
The man with the frosted tips. The man with the frosted tips.
I had him in 99.
On his soul.
Did you really?
I had like a, the barber I went to was like this Japanese dude who was older who didn't know what frosted tips were.
So he gave me like a really wild, like a terrible, it just looked bad.
It wasn't what like the white kids had i looked like
i had a bad perm or some shit and like yeah the shit got discolored or something but anyway it
was cool for a minute the the perm is uh is big in first grade right now for the for the boys
what do you mean they're not getting boys yeah they're getting perms. No, they're not. They're getting the wave. They're getting the little Korean perm wave thing.
Yeah.
What?
Yeah, man.
No.
Yeah.
Children's are getting the K wave perm?
Yeah.
It looks good.
Wow.
Wow.
So, hey, but we're not here to talk about children's haircuts.
We're here to talk about people with frosted tips named Ken.
Yeah.
Because that is who got nominated.
A number of surprises.
I was a little surprised that Leonardo DiCaprio's teeth acting.
Teeth acting to acting.
Old Gompers?
Didn't get nominated for best actor or even
best perma frown
for killers of the flower moon
I mean look buddy they
didn't make good for what is it
revenant yeah they were like alright
you got your they're like get the fuck out of here
dude like we're done with you
I think it's kind of the energy with DiCaprio
right now it's like don't worry about it
man like there's nothing you can do that'll get you up here again.
Why are you still here?
We gave you your thing, dude.
Like, what, also, why do you still have those prosthetic teeth in?
Oh, those aren't prosthetics.
See, every other time I put prosthetics in.
Oh, these are my real gompies.
I got my teeth highlighted for all the other films.
Yeah, these are my real gompies highlighted for all the other films yeah these my gompies
yeah so no gompers uh to be nominated although they did uh give prosthetics uh acting nomination
for bradley cooper and maestro he was nominated for best actor which but not director. But not director. Sorry. The director category is interesting.
I was pretty surprised.
I'm not alone.
Greta Gerwig did not get nominated for Best Director for Barbie.
Yeah.
There were a record three films directed by women that were nominated in best picture uh but only one of them
was nominated for best director that's interestingly i hate like for whatever reason i just like i'd
always like i'm like why doesn't the best director also why aren't they immediately tied to best
picture you know what i mean i always talk about like the the weird when spielberg won for
best director but then uh shakespeare in love won best picture in like 98 and i was just like
what oh that was just a fantastically produced movie yeah forget who produced that but uh genius
is who i am max oh that's right was it yo No, I think it was. That was the movie that like, you know, everyone was like, oh, you this is all just about like a well run campaign. And Miramax and Harvey Weinstein just like politicized that one somehow. I forget exactly how they did that. Let's see. Also. So the other film directed by a woman besides Barbie was Past Lives, which was one of our favorite movies or one of my favorite movies of the past year.
And it was nominated for Best Pitch, not Best Direct, though.
Just this.
It's too much.
It's too much.
I think this is just such a weird thing. This like, especially with Barbie and the sort of like the weird wonky nominations there.
Like it's,
I actually didn't get nominated miles.
I'm not sure if that's all right.
Yeah,
they didn't.
I know.
Okay.
And I lost four and I lost $4,000.
Fuck.
Fucking upside down
on this. Oh, man.
I don't know why I take these wild prop
bets. They just don't make sense.
I don't know why. I had a
feeling about Wonka.
I'm upside down on this Wonka shout out.
Yeah.
So, I don't know. Best picture
of the nominees are
American Fiction, Anat nominees are American fiction,
anatomy of a fall,
which I saw highly recommend Barbie,
the holdovers,
uh,
which has picked up a lot of,
uh,
moment in the past,
uh,
kill the flower moon,
my stro up in Heimer past lives,
poor things.
And of course the zone of interest oh which i have not
seen yet but that that is on my list that i walk around with in in my hand watch these goddamn
movies oh yeah what else may december didn't get much did it may december didn't get much
um just original
original screenplay which i thought it was based on a true story uh i mean it was definitely
inspired by true event yeah yeah yeah yeah no no acting awards despite the fact that it
very easily could have um uh i was just like listening to uh the like an interview with the writer and how like
everyone was like i don't know about this script and basically i just took a dump on it
now it's at least like academy award nominated fucking script now i can see how people would
have looked at the idea for that script and been like wait it's about what yeah it feels like a you're
like this isn't an idea this is a lifetime movie but it's about the making of a lifetime movie
yeah and it was i saw it i was actually aside from uh julianne moore's inconsistent lisping
um i felt that, yeah.
I thought her performance was incredible.
Oh, I thought it was great, but at times
it was just a little distracting when she would
suddenly have a lisp and then
not another. She would really
remember it suddenly. I'm like, you don't have to do
all that. You're a great actress,
Julianne Moore. We love your crying face.
We love your crying face.
But yeah. Maybe that was the character character maybe the character was putting it on oh makes you think makes you think and
charles melton was also very good like he very much like played had this energy of like this
stunted adult who was in a relationship with a young man yeah yeah yeah who probably shouldn't have been in a full
blown fucking relationship with someone that was their teacher yes um but yeah it's uh i don't know
man shout out to lily gladstone though first native american gladstone nominated for best
actress so yeah people uh a heavy favorite in the category so we'll see what one person on twitter
really wanted bow is afraid to be nominated for visual
effects because of its giant penis monster okay spoiler alert yeah i got to see it for the first
time because of this outrage um and i'll just say uh that's not what my penis looks like. It's a weird looking penis.
I think it's normal looking.
Okay.
All right.
Maybe it's like a very old elderly person.
It's a Rorschach test.
It's all about what you see when you look into it.
Oh, you see a penis there?
Wow.
Interesting.
I see Krang from Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.
That's what I thought I was looking at, was a little Krang.
From the live action Ninja Turtles movie.
Yeah.
But yeah, people,
I think the main big snub takeaway
people are upset about is Greta Gerwig.
I would agree with that.
I think she has proved herself
across multiple movies.
She does not seem to miss.
This was a hugely high level of difficulty,
and she absolutely nailed it like if you
just like looked at somebody making a
Barbie movie was like the take
heading into the year and
then like the degree to which that was a
massive hit and also just like critically
and artistically very
successful I feel like
maybe like
just taking the whole thing outside
of the context again if we did the oscars five
years later yeah or you know you might be like god that was incredible that they were able to
pull that off but right right now we're inside the you know because of a stupid you know the
way the media operates we're inside a narrative about the narrative.
Yeah.
Like about the horse race of the Oscar nomination.
A fantastic observation from Brian, the editor.
He said, I like that there are two movies nominated featuring white guys doing horrible
things with bombs on Native American reservations who then have to testify in court for the
last 45 minutes.
It's like the new way to get a nomination.
Dude, just doing this fucked up stuff with bombs
on indigenous land, and then a court scene.
And it's a fucking...
You got it.
That's true.
That's amazing.
And only one of them acknowledges that it's bad, really.
Yeah.
All right, let's take a quick break,
and we'll come back and
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And we talked on yesterday's episode about how Trump was getting Nancy Pelosi and Nikki Haley confused.
Like, looking back on that quote, I'm not even sure which one he's trying to talk about like he starts in on nikki haley
presumably because she's his rival but then he like switches mid-sentence to january 6th it's
just like it's less like he has he's calling someone by the wrong name and more like his
brain is like melting and he's like merged them as two people in his brain like it is it is
different from just accidentally being like
oh shit i meant the other person's name and more like he thinks for a moment that they are the same
person right yeah it's it was very interesting um on newsmax they really were like came to his
defense for that flub um and i just gotta play this greg kelly on fucking news
max explains like he actually fucking meant it dipshits which is the fucking wildest way to
defend that but here's his explanation as to what's going on all right let's pretend for a
moment now i don't think this is the case that he made a genuine mistake here that this was let's pretend it wasn't a gap right campaigning having to defend himself in crazy trials all over
exactly crazy let's look at the names for a second nancy and nicky haley all right they both
start with n's they both end in vowels both the first name and the last name the names arguably are rather similar okay nancy pelosi nicky haley yeah yeah
yeah yeah yeah go on greg sure but i think he actually meant to say nicky haley he said it on
purpose and the fake news fell for it so he goes on wait what dude let me explain so he goes on and he plays all these clips of people
being like what the fuck was that is this dude all right um and he comes back and then he he
really has to he really lays it out for you like the whole kaiser soze of it all um so you can see
how the friggin mainstream fucking fell for it hook line because this is an audio medium i do
have to just describe to you guys that he has a look on his face like he is a five-year-old who
is about to tell the punchline to the funniest joke they've ever heard like 100 really is like
i got one here folks i got a heater baby And the reason was farts in his brain.
Okay, here's him coming back as to exactly why this was 4D genius chess.
All right, but here's the deal.
They all had to say later in their reports that it was Nancy Pelosi who was offered the 10,000 troops.
It was Nancy Pelosi who was actually charged with security.
So that, in a way, affected the message that he wanted out there. Because when he says Nancy
Pelosi was in charge of security, nobody pays any attention. But when he says Nikki Haley is,
and he said Nikki Haley three times, I don't know. What do do you think it's kind of like when he said
we're gonna build a wall and Mexico is gonna pay for it so I thought there would be more there um
no no but it's kind of like when they when he said that thing that he wasn't able to make happen
uh yeah that was a terrible idea and a thing he apparently did try again hey he fucking look
what they got he got all these fucking halfwits saying nancy pelosi now but right the thing is
sure that's exactly how it was handled by the mainstream media they were like uh actually it
wasn't nicki haley it was nancy pelosi who did the inside job that caused january 6th i mean oh no you got me i've been trumped again uh so then he like he but he's
been sort of compounding on this idea of like is he like look joe biden ain't a spring chicken
either but like the now we're starting to see them like stack up they're they're they're happening
with higher frequency frequency with trump um and on Monday, he had this very interesting explanation
of the Iron Dome missile defense system
that is deployed in Israel.
Yeah, this one's actually, like,
I learned some things about how that system works
and just, like, technology in general
that I didn't know before.
It's actually a very intricate, high-tech system.
And he just, I guess i do have to credit donald
trump for being able to sort of break down these sort of complex uh technological systems in a way
that every person can understand so here's his uh description of how the iron dome works these are
not muscle guys here they're muscle guys up here right not on the r8 not the brain they walk to a
seat ding ding ding ding ding ding, ding, ding.
They've only got 17 seconds to figure
this whole thing out, right?
Okay. Missile launch.
Pshew. Boom.
Uh-huh.
He's like playing Simon.
He's playing.
Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding.
Hitting just various buttons in front of him
like he's a DJ. Then shoot the missile. It goes out in front of him like he's a dj then shoot the missile it goes out in
front of him does a little nazi salute and then boom it explodes gone out of your life out of
your life also he's like we got to build one on our border too and it's like from all the rocket
attacks that we're under like even that part like even examine the idea that he thinks there needs to
be some kind of like rocket intercept system uh on any border uh but anyway that's one of them
and then there was this other quote where he was just really like while there was like this like
weird eerie he was doing that thing again where it's like weird q anon music playing as he gives
like a fucking bizarre monologue he was just just lamenting the fact that America has become an institute of death.
Death penalty.
We'll hear him.
Wait, I'm sorry, what? Don't you understand?
Well, I guess allow me to hear it again, Jack, and then maybe I'll have a better thought on this.
But let's just hear from him now.
Which is incapable of solving even the smallest problem.
The simplest of problems we can no longer solve.
We can't do anything.
We are an institute and a powerful death penalty.
We will put this on.
We have...
Wait.
We're an institute?
We are an institute and a powerful death penalty.
We will put this on.
Yeah, and then he just said,
we will put this on.
And then I don't...
Yeah.
We will put this on a T-shirt
to sell as campaign merchandise.
At one point,
he also is quoting Donald Trump.
At one point,
that's what President Donald Trump says.
Yeah.
He went third person on us out of nowhere so again it's like we're sort of like in this weird place where like obviously
we've just been very dismissive of it because it's sort of like i don't need any more negatives
against donald trump to convince you that he's completely unfit for office yeah but there is
this like weird thing where the mainstream media does,
like both parties don't want to go all in on,
I don't know if these octogenarians are the sharpest butter knives
in the drawer here because it opens either party up to me like,
well, what about your guy?
Yeah, we both have the same problem.
It's like, well, this guy might not be doing too hot upstairs.
And he put it in the talk.
Yeah.
I don't think he's doing too hot upstairs right now.
Or maybe it is too hot up there.
Yeah.
It might be.
Yeah.
I don't know.
It's just like kind of trying to understand like where we're at with how we speak about
this, because this isn isn't this isn't ideal
at all like to have a guy who can't even he's like not making sense in a consistent way aside
from just saying like the same five sort of you know um grievance politics sort of things that he
has over and over but going third person he's got the q anon monologue. It's a lot. We're getting a lot right now.
I do love that
for him to respect someone,
he has to
just on the Iron Dome thing,
he was like, they're not big muscle guys here,
but they're big muscle guys in his brain.
In the brain. Exactly. They don't have
Christmas hams here. They have Christmas hams
up here. They might actually look kind of weak,
but then you'd be surprised when they blow you up.
When they sit down and go,
shoot, bing, ding, ding, ding, boom.
17 seconds, missiles, boom.
Truly the mind of a five-year-old in a lot of ways.
I'm surprised.
I'm sure someone is going to actually break down
how the Iron Dome thing works.
And he's like, that first bing is actually this.
The second bing is the operator
deciding when to or what to deploy the ordinance against and then that being cord like he actually
explained it very perfectly um uh actually that is exactly how it worked they show a video and
it's just a guy going down being like bing bing bing bing bing it's like an actual dude out there so he's like
i love working on iron dome bing bing bing bing shoot boom missile bing bow that's right this is
what our tax dollars go towards all right well we do have the new hampshire primary tonight uh
you know it's happening now it's we'll see what happens with trump and haley so biden's not on the ballot which was
kind of like there there's a disagreement we we've talked before about how the dnc
wanted to change the order of the primaries because yeah to help him because last if you
remember last primary in 2020 new hampshire he didn't even get 10 and it was like a whole thing everyone's like
uh-oh this is a fucking l right that's when he called i forget who was he remembers when he
called a lady a lying dog-faced pony soldier i do remember that i don't remember who it was
yeah that was that was like the dark night of the soul for the biden campaign yeah exactly
and that was in new hampshire so
because they have insisted now to make south carolina the first you know like they're like
no no south carolina is the first and our primary calendar dnc insisted on the dnc like new hampshire
was like well we're still holding it and basically what happened is they're like okay well we're
ignoring you and we're not even gonna file in the early voting contest which feels like a bad choice
on their like because it's just going to give the media the ability to create this narrative
where like the democrat the biden might be in trouble like yeah you think the media is going
to be like that he wasn't really on it like yes no you fucked up by not getting him on the ballot
like because there's
there's definitely two schools of thought there are people who are like it's fine if like he
doesn't win there it doesn't mean anything and other people like that's a bad look yeah if you
go in there as a incumbent yeah and then people are like well i guess dean phillips is our new bay
um but you know i'm not even like upset about it in the sense of like god this proves that like
they don't have their shit together because i don't ultimately think it's going to matter
i'm annoyed that it's going to create an annoying narrative for the next week and a half that
doesn't ultimately matter but we're going to have to hear about how biden's in trouble look at like
how poorly he did in new hampshire you know like yeah it's
maybe i mean maybe maybe so many people so like now they're being like uh could you actually write him in please sir uh we just don't embarrass him don't embarrass us yeah please president um
yeah so but he he's not going to be on the ballot we'll see how he performs but it really feels
that you know,
the mainstream media loves nothing more than a Dems and disarray narrative.
And this is going to give them a good opportunity because it is a real fuck up by the DNC.
Right.
If,
yeah,
if it's anything less than like over 50,
if it's less than 50% of the vote,
they're going to,
they're probably,
you'll start seeing some people be like
i don't know but then but also like but let's not talk about trump jazz at all like dems and
disarray uh trump can identify whale on cognitive exam yeah and it this story might end up being
about this robo biden call that we'll get into a little bit more uh at a future episode but yeah um
yeah we mentioned it on the today's this morning's episode but yeah we're already in the era of
deep fake audio robocalls yeah they're gonna like create a captcha for phone calls now where it's
like they like give you a like blade runner style robot test test, which is a great idea.
I'm excited about that.
But anyways, weird times.
Very strange that Biden's not on the ballot for the New Hampshire primary.
Feels like a bad bluff by the DNC that is going to get called, unfortunately.
We'll see.
We'll see. we'll see you know we'll see we'll see hoping my good friend nicky haley makes some noise in new hampshire for you john i will
you know what's wild though too speaking of the dnc because i told you my mom
is the one who like has put my number down yeah so i get all the dnc the one they fucking sent recently
it was so fucking aggressive it said seriously with a fucking question mark we hand selected
you for the 14th amendment survey but you didn't even respond it's only eight questions oh my god
yeah they use my mother's name and everyone like your mom's fucking name out your robo mouth, motherfucker.
What is this shit?
What kind of tactic is this?
Seriously?
Seriously?
What's your fucking problem, man?
Seriously, Miles' mom?
We hand selected you.
Like, oh, fuck off.
That's crazy, man.
Anyways, what a time to be alive.
Well, we'll see what happens in New Hampshire.
Yeah.
And we will talk to you all tomorrow.
We'll be back with the whole last episode of the show.
Until then, be kind to each other.
Be kind to yourselves.
Get the vaccine.
Don't do nothing about white supremacy.
And we will talk to you all tomorrow.
Bye.
Bye.
Bye.
See y'all tomorrow.
Bye.
Bye.
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