The Daily Zeitgeist - Trends! How Many Of Them Are There? 6! 3/14: Law Roach, Scream VI, Ranch Ice Cream, The Little Mermaid, Google

Episode Date: March 14, 2023

In this edition of Trends! How Many Of Them Are There? 6!, Jack and super producer Becca discuss the retirement of Law Roach, Scream VI, Ranch Ice Cream, the newer, darker 'The Little Mermaid' trailer..., and Google's (rushed) Bard integrations, and Jack finally trying ChatGPT!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me for I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and Shekinah Church. Listen to Forgive Me for I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradenti. And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. There's a lot to figure out when you're just
Starting point is 00:00:39 starting your career. That's where we come in. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in people who do, like negotiation expert Maury Tahiripour. If you start thinking about negotiations as just a conversation, then I think it sort of eases us a little bit. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports.
Starting point is 00:01:04 Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's basketball. And on this new season, we'll cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio apps, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. Hello, the internet, and welcome to this episode of Trans. How many of them are there?
Starting point is 00:01:37 Six, courtesy of Super Producer Brian. Yeah, I'm Jack, and I'm thrilled to be joined by super producer, Becca Ramos! Hello, hello. What's happening? You know, it's chilly here in New York City. It's going to snow, apparently. But it's not sticking. It's just windy and cold.
Starting point is 00:01:59 Right. And that's the worst kind. I know. At least give me something to show for it. Yeah. If you're going're gonna snow fucking snow have us be able to get a picture new rules um yeah all right uh should we tell the people what's trending let's do it i think we must i think we must uh of course, one that I brought to you and had to explain to you.
Starting point is 00:02:26 Of course, of course. Iconic stylist to the stars, Law Roach, has announced his retirement. Question mark, question mark, question mark. Question mark. Well, I'll take it, Jack, even though you graciously explained this all to me. Yeah, so I explained it to you. I want to see how well you learned it um so yeah la road styles of the stars famously on that hbo max legendary uh but also i think most famous for styling zendaya but also meg the stallion
Starting point is 00:02:57 hunter schaefer ariana grande kerry washington celine dion priyanka chopra lindsey lohan and many more he announced his retirement over Instagram over the politics, in quotes, lies and false narratives of the industry.
Starting point is 00:03:11 People think it's, has something to do with what happened at the Louis Vuitton show this past week, but unclear what all went down. That was my theory,
Starting point is 00:03:19 but yeah. That was Zach's theory, of course. I looked at the video or I was trying to find the video. Couldn't find anything about it. I just kept hearing rumors about this, like, snub at the video i was trying to find the video couldn't find anything about it i just kept hearing rumors about this like snub at the louis vuitton show like zendaya was sitting front row who's now a brand rep for louis vuitton and like had to pull up a chair to have la rote
Starting point is 00:03:35 sit with her front row so not sure what's going on there but i would say i'm very sad to see him go in the industry i think he's really broken barriers into what is the beauty standard of Hollywood. I think he's really been a fashion architect as he likes to describe himself, but he's also just like, I think a stylist that really understands the lexicon and history of fashion.
Starting point is 00:04:01 He really loves to bring back vintage looks. He's really attuned to what the person he's styling wants, but also the historical moments that they're participating in. And just, I don't know, he makes art. I like look at some of these red carpet looks and they are, you know, they're pretty women in pretty dresses.
Starting point is 00:04:23 But when Law Roach wrote style somebody it is truly art so i will be sad to see if he really is officially retiring it seems like the comments everyone is like what are you talking about like all his celeb friends are like no no notably naomi campbell's like absolutely not we're not doing this so hopefully naomi can bring him back i will be really sad to see him go i hope that means he'll still be on another season of Legendary. I love Legendary. And for the people, so they know, what is Legendary? Legendary is a show on HBO Max. Like the famous show, Ryan Murphy's Pose.
Starting point is 00:04:54 It is that, except an actual competition show. Yeah, like a reality competition show. Law Roach is a judge. Keke Palmer's been a judge. Megan Stallion's been a judge. They have a couple famous ball queens of the era as judges so definitely a fun show it's bringing ball to i think the popular culture if you're not a part of the queer community you probably don't know too much about ballroom
Starting point is 00:05:17 culture but it's really fascinating interesting amazing art and you should look at it but i also want to say last thing uh go check out meg the stallions look from the vanity fair party at the oscars it was his la roche's latest styling choice and it was perfection truly awe-inspiring the i will say i looked through uh you know this is this is not necessarily the thing that i am the most up on i looked through some iconic looks created by celeb stylist la roach from uh an outlet a journalistic institution buzzfeed.com and uh known for their listicles the the work is great the like i have very very cool iconic looks that you know i don't always get fashion fashion doesn't always get me um but la roche and i yes mutual appreciation he's a big fan of mine um also love that la roche like it
Starting point is 00:06:14 the out loud sounds like it's gonna be french but it's just the word law and the word roach la roach scream six has arrived dropped on all of our asses this past weekend and broke the records for the scream franchise so i was curious to see what was going to happen here because in the trailer it broke some age-old slasher movie conventions, some things that to me seemed like lots. The slasher movie villain usually isn't pulling a gun out. I've always thought it was funny to just imagine Jason Voorhees just holding a handgun, a revolver on someone. You're right. I never really thought about that. They don't really hold automatic weapons.
Starting point is 00:07:06 And the other thing that has always been confusing to me, and I think also it's very interesting to try and puzzle out why this is the case, because the majority of the film-going population lives in cities for the most part, just because the majority of populations in the united states i think live in cities or at least a huge sizable chunk now i'm getting nervous that i have that
Starting point is 00:07:30 wrong but i think yeah like that's who you're trying to reach generally with your film are those cosmopolitan young people and yet the movies are never set in cities and horror movies set in cities generally like don't do that well like my explanation is always like there's just something spooky about the the woods or even the suburbs they'll let you do the suburbs but it just like doesn't translate to the city generally but scream six seems to have gone city. And both of those conventions may not, uh, hold up anymore for this new generation because in the trailer, he pulls a shotgun out.
Starting point is 00:08:14 Um, and also it like happens on a New York subway. Like there's a scene on a New York subway train. So interested to watch this one. Also, one of the reviews for the film made the claim that the scream franchise is like the fast and the furious franchise that they've gotten better with each installment which is shocking to me i i stopped it too i assumed they got worse like other
Starting point is 00:08:41 horror films um so the idea that they've only gotten better since Scream 2, I'm intrigued. And people seem to really be enjoying this one. The reviews are solid. The B.O. is boffo. So I've got to hand it to the folks at Scream. They're really doing it. I mean, I definitely want to see it.
Starting point is 00:09:04 I'm a Jenny Ortega fan I definitely feel like watching this trailer looked really good I have not seen I think the rest of the screams or I might have seen them in passing I definitely have seen all of the scary movies like I saw scary movie was introduced to my life before scream was so um yeah i don't know but i'm intrigued i i heard it was good i had a friend go see it this morning my partner saw it on saturday he really liked it he was like i gotta go watch scream 5 now so and he's also a big fast and furious fan so maybe there's a correlation there interesting um anyways uh i'm looking forward to seeing that and happy as a moviegoer someone who one of my favorite things to do in the world is to go and sit in a movie theater and watch a movie
Starting point is 00:09:54 uh i'm happy anytime movies are doing well at the box office me too yes ranch ice cream uh there so there is a company called van lewin it is spelled van leewin uh l-e-e-u-w-e-n but i've been told very forcefully that it's van lewin and not van leewin like i pronounce it yes um but they want you to pronounce it they they have that conversation built into their name they're like we're gonna spell it, they have that conversation built into their name. They're like, we're going to spell it this way. So that not only do you, are you intimidated by us?
Starting point is 00:10:30 Like seeming a little like avant-garde with our ice cream flavors, but someone is correcting you when you try and say our name. So you feel worse about yourself. It's giving French. It's giving, it is giving French and it is spelling French as opposed to La Roche. So Van Leeuwen has been making these challenging flavors.
Starting point is 00:10:55 They've made Grey Poupon. They have made pizza flavored ice cream. They have made mac and cheese. And now they're dropping the Hidden Valley ranch on us and this is disrespectful at this point it's so i have to suspect because you you said that you go to these stores i do they have them in new york they're a big chain in new york there's a few in the Brooklyn area where I live. I love their Marionberry ice cream. If I'm at a corner store and they have Van Leeuwen, I'm checking for the Earl Grey tea. Oh, that's such a good flavor. And the Marionberry, those are the two I rotate between. Oh,
Starting point is 00:11:39 and also the Honeycomb. Those are the three I rotate between. But I never see these crazy flavors, not even in store so earl grey tea that sounds very subtle to me it's like a it's it's got the really strong hint of the earl grey tea flavor but it's like kind of like if you were to have um a london fog latte like an earl tea latte it's got that creaminess, but like subtle tea flavor. And it almost is like refreshing because of the way the tea hits, like almost like a mint is in the feeling, not in the taste. So that's not for me.
Starting point is 00:12:16 That's, I'm going to need, I'm going to need chunks of something. You got to put some tea bags in there that are made out of, made out of honeycomb or something like that. But anyways, I suspect that we saw Jenny's do this a couple of years ago tea bags in there that are made out of made out of honeycomb yeah or something like that but anyways i i suspect that we saw jenny's do this a couple years ago with the everything bagel ice cream flavor yeah but that one was they were actually putting that out i have tasted it it does taste good because it's cream cheese flavored and very sweet with a little bit of the everything bagel seasoning in there to kind of you know confuse the senses a little bit of the everything bagel seasoning in there to kind of, you know,
Starting point is 00:12:46 confuse the senses a little bit. But this sounds like they'd make one batch of each of these. Yeah. Put out the press release. Everybody gobbles it up because there are a bunch of shows like this out there that are just suckers and nobody has to taste it and they don't even need to make it taste good would be my guess. Do you think it's like a brand partnership vibe?
Starting point is 00:13:09 I mean, the fact that Hidden Valley is involved. Yeah, like, cause it was Kraft Mac and Cheese. So is it like these brands are like, okay, we know Van Leeuwen is very famous and also very good at making ice cream. What if we, you know, increase our brand share by doing a brand collaboration with Van Leeuwen? Yeah. I mean, if they are getting the brands to collaborate, then I'm guessing they have to make it taste good. And so my theory is shot
Starting point is 00:13:37 and I'm happy to be wrong about that. I would love it if somebody reached out and was like, the ranch ice cream is amazing. I would be down with that. As opposed to mac and cheese, pizza. Pizza, for some reason, sounds like the worst one to me. Yeah. Like, just, I don't, I'm not a huge fan of cold pizza. I know you can eat it, but why would you? Okay, see, I do, not that I love a cold pizza, but I'm just such a pizza slug that I'll eat pizza like any form. If it's on form but on the counter for a day i'll eat it like if it's in the fridge i'll eat it if it's
Starting point is 00:14:09 warmed up i'll eat it like i will eat pizza any form so i don't know it just reminds me of frozen pizza like eating frozen pizza you're right and that's not fun. I hate doing that. You can't do that. Yeah, when I'm fending for myself on the weekend, I'll eat a frozen pizza without cooking it, but that's not something I'm proud of. Do you think it tastes like a Lunchable? Well, I've never tasted the Pizza Lunchables. Okay, so
Starting point is 00:14:38 I guess, you know, you maybe missed that one though. Because of this very thing. I've seen pizza made, and I'm like, that doesn't look good until it comes out of the oven. I've seen pizza made and I'm like, that doesn't look good until it comes out of the oven. I guess if it tastes like a Lunchable, I'd eat it. Because I did eat those many times growing up. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:54 Stay tuned for tomorrow's episode where we talk about how Lunchables are coming to school cafeterias starting next school year. All right, let's take a quick break. We do have a new Little Mermaid trailer to talk about. A couple other things. We'll be right back. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together,
Starting point is 00:15:30 we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and LA-based Shekinah Church, an alleged cult that has impacted members for over two decades. Jessica and I will delve into the hidden truths between high control groups and interview dancers, church members, and others whose lives and careers have been impacted, just like mine. Through powerful, in-depth interviews with former members and new, chilling firsthand accounts, the series will illuminate untold and extremely necessary perspectives. Forgive Me For I Have Followed will be more than an exploration. It's a vital revelation aimed at ensuring these types of abuses never happen again. Listen to Forgive Me For I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:16:15 Hey, I'm Gianna Pradente. And I'm Jimei Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline, a new podcast from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. When you're just starting out in your career, you have a lot of questions. Like, how do I speak up when I'm feeling overwhelmed? Or, can I negotiate a higher salary if this is my first real job? Girl, yes.
Starting point is 00:16:37 Each week, we answer your unfiltered work questions. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in experts who do, like resume specialist Morgan Saner. The only difference between the person who doesn't get the job and the person who gets the job is usually who applies. Yeah, I think a lot about that quote. What is it, like you miss 100% of the shots you never take?
Starting point is 00:16:58 Yeah, rejection is scary, but it's better than you rejecting yourself. Together, we'll share what it really takes to thrive in the early years of your career without sacrificing your sanity or sleep. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese.
Starting point is 00:17:31 I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really near them. I just come here to play basketball every single day, and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is unapologetically Black.
Starting point is 00:17:51 I love her. What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game? And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better. This new season will cover all things sports and culture.
Starting point is 00:18:08 Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. And we're back. And new Little M mermaid trailer is out it's dark when we're underwater they were like the thing that we are going to make realistic is you can't see shit have you ever been to the bottom of the ocean very dark um so we're gonna we're gonna stick with that. Um, and then the parts that aren't at the bottom of the ocean, not as dark. So they're just like, wait,
Starting point is 00:18:48 we're choosing to not suspend disbelief around this one issue. Uh, Sebastian, we finally get to see Sebastian speak. Um, it's, it's not, there,
Starting point is 00:19:00 nothing has been done to assuage my nervousness about how this character is going to come off. Yeah, they gave you just a very brief moment of Sebastian and a pelican. Is that the bird it was? I'm not sure what that bird was. Yeah, seabird of some sort. A seabird of sorts. A seabird of some sort. A seabird of sorts.
Starting point is 00:19:34 We do believe that they have kind of tried to learn from the past few movies of how do we animate animals to make them look realistic, but also talk like humans. And I think they are closer than ever with this trailer. It felt like they looked like animals, but they looked like animals that could emote. And that's... Oh, did they, too? Wow. I feel like the bird looked like it emoted looked like animals that could emote and that's oh did they you know wow i feel like the bird looked like it emoted okay yeah the bird was giving some attitude sebastian seemed like they were cutting around they were not seeing a lot of like close-up shots of them like reaction shots where they get emotional um they seem to be Reaction shots where they get emotional.
Starting point is 00:20:13 They seem to be compensating for Sebastian's lack of facial emotion with a over-the-top voice. Of course, which we were worried about. But we'll just have to see it to believe it when it comes out. I felt like Melissa McCarthy looked really great as Ursula. Halle Bailey looked incredible. I felt like she was looking really great and seeming like she was going to nail this role. Javier Barden as Kim Triton. Sure.
Starting point is 00:20:35 Let's do it. Love it. Fun. And we both agree Prince Eric is ugly. Okay. I did not say that. I said he does not look enough like pete sampras which is my for some reason i've always associated eric with pete sampras because they were famous they were
Starting point is 00:20:52 at their peak at the same time and i just feel like he should look more like pete sampras but yeah he doesn't he's not i don't know i'm sorry it does feel like there there needed to be a larger hotness quotient. He's not giving prints. You know what I'm saying? He's giving like youth, like a young adult. Very youthful. But he's not giving prints.
Starting point is 00:21:12 Very youthful, yeah. We're going to find out this person is like 14 years old. I know. And I feel bad. I'm going to feel really gross that I ever even compared him to being hot. Not hot. I'm like, no, no, no. Don't cancel me, please.
Starting point is 00:21:23 I know Halle Bailey's over 18. Please don't cancel me please I know Holly Bailey's over 18 please don't make it weird but I just think there are like very regal like in theory if you're gonna be a Disney prince like there's a regalness to it and he's just not giving regal you know he seems spunky
Starting point is 00:21:37 he seems like a young kid he seems like he could be played by Tom Holland not worth giving up your tail for okay and your voice yes probably the originally animated prince eric also not worth that but finally google has announced an ai feature in gmail google docs and more to rival microsoft um is theirs named bard is that what they're calling theirs or i think so did that go by the wayside uh so i don't know clippy it'll do it will be
Starting point is 00:22:14 a paper clip that pops onto the side of your and honestly maybe i'll switch back to microsoft if that's the case i need clippy's help yeah but it's uh yeah i have experimented with chat gpt and by that i mean asking it five questions and apparently it's all about how smart you are at interacting with the chat gpt and i am not smart at interacting with chat gpt So send me some queries that I should be hitting chat GPT with that'll provide good reads. But yeah, it seems like in our team chat here that I was the only one with the existential dread of what it means to be ruled by AI. But, you know, I would love everyone to prove me wrong. I just think in terms of the future of art and reading and writing, I don't like chat GPT. I'm worried that we're going to become more literate. everyone to prove me wrong i just think in terms of the future of art and reading and writing i
Starting point is 00:23:05 don't like chat gpt i'm worried that we're gonna become more illiterate people aren't gonna write anymore and i don't like it probably true probably yeah like write me a dating profile let me see what happens journalism degree okay you know i don't know but i just don't like that i worked really hard on that degree and now people can just like input papers in chat gpt write me a dating profile i think that's the only useful way to use it to do the dating profile okay and then they wrote a dating profile for themselves hi i'm chat gpt and i'm here to tell you a little bit about myself. This is not going to work. But anyways,
Starting point is 00:23:46 uh, I'm not as nervous as I was when that one person was like, it tried to get me to kill my wife and leave my wife for her. Um, so yeah, well, Becca, it's been a pleasure having you as always.
Starting point is 00:24:03 Where can people find you? Follow you. You can find me and follow me at X Bccsramos on all platforms and at Mil Mundos and Bushwick every other Saturday. All right. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. That's going to do it for us this afternoon. Back tomorrow with the whole last episode of the show. Until then, be kind to each other.
Starting point is 00:24:23 Be kind to yourself. Get the vaccine. Don't do nothing about white supremacy. And we'll talk to you all tomorrow. Bye. Bye. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradenti. And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. There's a lot to figure out when you're just starting your career. That's where we come in. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in people who do,
Starting point is 00:24:54 like negotiation expert Maury Tahiripour. If you start thinking about negotiations as just a conversation, then I think it sort of eases us a little bit. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and Shekinah Church.
Starting point is 00:25:30 Listen to Forgive Me For I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is Season 4 of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. Every great player needs a foil. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game.
Starting point is 00:25:53 Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Listen to the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Elf Beauty, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports.

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