The Daily Zeitgeist - Trendy and the Zeits 3/31: ITDV, Delta, Nipsey Hu$$le, Trump

Episode Date: March 31, 2021

On this edition of Trendy and the Zeits Miles and Joelle Monique discuss International Transgender Day of Visibility, Delta's CEO backpeddling on praise for Georgia's new voter suppression law, the 2 ...year anniversary of Nipsey Hu$$le's death, and Trump's plan to start a social media platform. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:09 Well, let's give you the episode name first. Welcome to this edition of Trendy and the Zites. Trendy. Trendy. Trendy. Trendy and the Zites. Okay. Shout out to Pat P55 on the Discord for that one nice job pat sir elton john inspired aka uh
Starting point is 00:02:32 i'm i'm miles and i'm i'm joined by the wonderful joelle monique here to co-host you know what i mean like look things got dodgy with the last ta jamie loftus look she quit because she said i was too checked out. I apparently smoked too much weed for her to think I'm a serious teacher. And I, anyway. Jamie only says nice things, how dare you? Do not slander Jamie. People know that.
Starting point is 00:02:55 People at this point, if you didn't know that, welcome. Well, then if you didn't know that, welcome new listeners or people who just started listening. Thank you for being here. Joelle, also, thank you so much for being here oh thanks for having me i'm excited to to talk today's trends with you it's gonna be yeah it's a mix of all kinds of things well today is the trans day of visibility uh so that is a huge huge i couldn't have come at a greater time considering the number of anti-trans bills that are being filed all over i believe arkansas now has the i guess fucked up title of
Starting point is 00:03:27 being like one of the most inhumane states to trans people um and the sports shit i don't know how many times i'm going to be saying this and i know diet gang you get this shit and you can tell everybody else it's this is not a problem that has to be solved so many trans people already competing it's not like just as themselves loving their sport loving putting the time in 100 successful but not necessarily dominating like it is just you could just let trans people live their damn lives and we could all just be happy together it is wild to me that we would knowingly revoke uh children's rights and access to health care uh because somebody else is worried about what's happening with it leave that's that child's body it's between them their doctor and their parents leave them the hell alone yeah but
Starting point is 00:04:17 and again it's and it's such a slippery slope because again this is another thing that you're gonna it's just gonna invite all kinds of gender policing that is only going to cause more problems and more oppressive policies uh that is just you know fucking absolutely uh antithetical to yeah we know 15 51 of trans kids consider suicide of that 51 i think it's like 46 49 percent have attempted um if it's it's it's upsetting that we we can't just support people and live their lives how they want to live them but uh this is Trans Day of Visibility which is you know it was kind of created in 2009 as a counter to Trans Day of Remembrance. Trans Day of Remembrance is like here are the men, women, genderless folks we have lost because of their trans identity. But Rachel Crandall in 2009, who's a Michigan based transgender activist and the executive director of Transgender Michigan was like, listen, we need a day of just visibility of like just being able to see each other, see ourselves and other people and be able to, you know, sort of have the same day like the lgbtq
Starting point is 00:05:26 community has and like we have coming out day um this is sort of a transgender specific coming out day or just acceptance day which is like a beautiful idea but yves reese wrote this really interesting piece on junkie.com and since neither miles nor myself are trans i wanted to kind of give some breath and space to an actual trans writer, talk about their experience. The title is called When Trans Visibility Comes at the Cost of Trans Safety. They quote the undying poet Ann Boyer's exoneration of cancer narratives. And basically, this is visibility. And Boyd explains doesn't reliably change the relations of power to who or what is visible, except insofar as visible prey are easier to hunt.
Starting point is 00:06:24 So, like, and I kind of want to talk to you about this idea of like, obviously, and the author Yves goes on to explain that they think that trans visibility is like a great thing like it's really awesome being able to see other people come out as trans healthy veds recognize their transness and help them to transition but like there's also it's safety is an issue not everyone can come out so basically if you're trans and you're out here uh and you're not ready to be fully out um or you can't safely come out or for whatever reason you just don't want to go there yet like in the same way that even if you're not out you know coming out day is still for you i think that trans visibility is still for you even if you're not yet ready to be visible and i would definitely check out yves's piece it's really beautiful as we talk about their experience um i'll read a little quick quote here.
Starting point is 00:07:07 My experiences far from unique trans identifications have skyrocketed in the wake of the trans tipping point. That was when Times declared the tipping point and put Laverne Cox on the cover of their magazine. In Melbourne, the Royal Children's Hospital Gender Clinic has seen a significant growth in referrals, raising from three in 2007 to 250 per year in 2017. Similar trends are evident overseas. A Gallup poll of 15,000 Americans released in early 2021 found that Generation Z, born between 97 and 2012, is the queerest generation yet. Hey, babies! I love my queer babies! Welcome to the world. Y'all
Starting point is 00:07:41 are beautiful. One in six identifies as LGBTQIA+, with 1.8% of Gen Z specifically identifying as trans. This is a big jump for millennials, of whom one in 10 are LGBTQIA+, and 1.2% are trans. Among baby boomers, only one in 50. But as I discovered, and I'm still quoting Yves here, but as I discovered last December,
Starting point is 00:08:02 visibility comes at a cost. Getting a few trans people on the screen is not the same as trans liberation. For a marginalized minority like the trans community who face disproportionate rates of violence and discrimination, visibility alone is not an inherent good. On the contrary, it can in fact render us more vulnerable
Starting point is 00:08:17 to harm, as border-worn being visible makes trans people easier to hunt. So yeah, some things to be thinking about on this trans visibility and on top of that you know as like allies you got to think that uh there's another poll saying that only about 25 percent of americans know personally know someone who's transgender meaning the other three quarters are probably relying on what they're seeing in media to inform their concepts or ideas of what a transgender person is. And yeah, like, so on top of that, it's important that the representation that we're
Starting point is 00:08:52 sending out there is, is, is actually appropriate and not something that is going to other someone. And also that also is incumbent on other people and knowing that only 25% of the country, even if you do not know someone that is trans like you also have to know that you're because of everything we're seeing you may intersect with somebody who's talking some transphobic nonsense and be prepared to be able to like stick up for people and say no like what you're saying is completely wrong like there's not a world in which i need to begin saying, oh, what the fuck is wrong with these people? Unless they are literally pose an existential threat to my existence. Then, I mean, then we understand you have to pick your battles here and there.
Starting point is 00:09:35 But short of having your life or body physically harmed, like definitely feel free to just be like, hey, trans kids are not having, quote unquote, gender affirmative surgery at the drop of a hat. Like, this is a long process. There are qualified officials who can navigate these situations that they don't need your, I'll just be frank, your Bible or your opinion to help determine the best health care for this individual. It's unnecessary. You're getting in the way and you're doing a lot more harm than good. It's foolish. I have a lot of friends. I've had a lot of queer friends
Starting point is 00:10:11 who were living a very queer lifestyle who are now coming to terms with their transness. There's a lot that even in the queer community, we're still having to learn. A lot of cis queers are still learning and developing and making amends for past mistakes it is a whole community that is is just now becoming visible and mainstream and in that there you know there's a lot of danger but also hopefully a lot of love and a lot of
Starting point is 00:10:38 light so try to be the love and the light that you want to see exactly and try and be somebody that you that any oppressed person would be thankful that you want to see exactly and try and be somebody that you that any oppressed person would be thankful that you were there to be an ally uh and really educate yourself that's the biggest thing i mean you can only read and so many other things but like really try and educate yourself on as much as possible especially like things like language because those are evolutions that like you know i'm myself have to constantly we all are going through because we're trying it's always changing so you have to be aware you have to keep educating yourself don't get comfortable and satisfied and think you know like i did my work in 98 you know i'm like well no no we've come a long way since then yes sir but anyway uh moving on georgia delta that is trending
Starting point is 00:11:21 because people like action maybe will there be um ed bastion who's the ceo of delta that is trending because people are like action maybe will there be um ed bastion who's the ceo of delta which is the based in atlanta um one of the you know obviously because of that that hartsfield jackson is a huge travel hub because of delta being based out of there um before in regards to this bill he said some ceo type shit of how he was like oh yeah i mean i know i've been kind of quiet with it but quote the bill has improved considerably during the legislative process sir do we have to fight you that seems unnecessary but you can get us all out back yeah we're you can meet the whole state of georgia outside your office right at some point uh so he rightfully got his ass torched because people were like what the fuck are y'all doing and then on top of it many other ceos of georgia
Starting point is 00:12:10 based companies have not spoken up in a direct way coca-cola is hezy hezy with a home depot i mean i don't expect much from them because they're so but at the same time as national businesses you do like where are you standing on this? Because this is the most regressive, restrictive voter suppression bill that we've seen in ages. If Coca-Cola was a real one, they would bring bottles of what is it? Dasani Coca-Cola owns. I just have them online. No, they shouldn't.
Starting point is 00:12:39 Don't disrespect them with Dasani. You know, I mean, give them Coca-Cola. You know what I mean? And if they want, maybe give them cash to buy better water than dasani it's not disrespect people trying to exercise their democratic right with bottles of dasani um but then he did come out and says this now quote i need to make it crystal clear that the final bill is unacceptable and does not match delta's values the right to vote is sacred it is fundamental to our democracy and those rights not only need to be protected but easily facilitated in a safe and secure manner it's evident that the bill includes provisions that will make it harder
Starting point is 00:13:07 for many underrepresented voters particularly black voters to exercise their constitutional right to elect their representatives that is wrong i feel bad for the black person who had to write that i know or who obviously the black person who had to vet it like okay is that good i'm sorry to make you do more labor mad i'm sorry to create more labor for you in this time but see i'm i i was about to read bell hooks but i didn't have time so i'm still kind of filling out my critical race theory mind um he goes on to say quote i know this result in georgia has caused frustration anger and pain for many members of our delta family that's an understatement. I commit to you that as we move forward, Delta will continue to do everything in our power
Starting point is 00:13:49 to hear and protect your voice and your rights, both in Georgia and nationwide. So what are you willing to do exactly? Upend the country or upend the company and say, okay, well, we're not going to, we're not operating out of here anymore. Are you willing to go that far? Because that's what it's going to take, I'm pretty sure, because you're dealing with a party who knows it's the fourth quarter with three seconds left, and they're going all in on this voter suppression shit.
Starting point is 00:14:18 I would just rather you just not say anything, because it's so clear to me that you're not going to do anything. Right. It's not in your best interest to do anything. So you're just going to keep your money tight. It's relatively cheap to operate out of Georgia. It's why we see a lot of companies choosing to work there. Don't say anything like please just leave black people alone. We don't have time to deal with this. And your wishy-washy, blasé, corporate family jargon. It's boring and it's pulling focus from where it needs to be. We have in here that a prominent group of 72 black business execs have begun circulating a letter
Starting point is 00:14:58 telling corporate America they need to be unequivocal and opposing this legislation. Not just unequivocal, but like, you need to put your money where your mouth is. I really tired of people being like well we stand for this let me get five black people from your corporation far above minimum wage and let's hear what they have to say right like let's like right what's your executive board look like oh uh give me one second to photoshop that real quick right right right right right Antoine get in here and just like squat down in front oh wait no actually can you just make my hair curlier
Starting point is 00:15:29 you know I mean look we have all these people professors and all these people in academia or the other one who was like afro-cuban or something I can't remember that person's name but they also got wild with it
Starting point is 00:15:46 yeah there's uh this is an existential threat again this is another existent to to extinguish or to try and tamper cut back the uh access to you know easy voting and to just you know uh fuckery free voting that is truly the kind of shit when you keep people from voting, it allows for more racist goonery to occur that will just actively erase everyone's fucking priorities. Because it's not just going to be people of color.
Starting point is 00:16:15 It's going to eventually be... I mean, it's already people of color. It's already queer people. It's already the entire LGBTQ community. It's already indigenous people. It's already Muslims. It's already Asian people. It's already muslims it's already asian people it's already uh hispanic people it's already immigrants so everybody if you're if
Starting point is 00:16:31 you're if you're fortunate enough to not be in that category in this country it will eventually it's going to be at your door too in some way or another because the on the right they're not having shit except for runaway greed and power that is defined by their toxic Christian masculinity or whatever the fuck it is. They do not care about your coal plants. They do not care even about your white neighborhoods. If they can make some money off and turn that thing into a highway, they'll do it tomorrow. Like, you're not safe. You're just most likely to vote for them right now.
Starting point is 00:17:03 Yeah. And that's what they need to stay in power. That's why I it you know america is a rotting you know loaf of bread some people unfortunately are surrounded by the green mold and other people think that just because they're part of the loaf doesn't have the mold on it yet that they're all good it's like no motherfucker you're doing the same thing it just hasn't got to you yet and if you say idly by it will they decided to build us said you can't give water to people where their lines are typically
Starting point is 00:17:29 10 hours long. You can't get a drink. You cannot step out of line. And they signed it under a painting of a plantation. With all white men in the room. It was the most brutal, blatant display of like
Starting point is 00:17:50 political racism and for people to not be outraged and the fact that what we're mostly seeing is black women be outraged and then of course prosecuted or I should say prosecuted but jailed and arrested and harmed over it it's just like here we go again i really i don't know it's very exhausting to be a black person post obama post you know rainbow coalition post civil rights post suffrage where you just think like all these movements are helping no they're just centimeters they were smoke they were smoke bombs to to keep the glacial pace the same, you know, because if the if the tempo got too quick, unfortunately, the country is not with that. And that's what we are have forced to face every day. Let's talk just another thing.
Starting point is 00:18:39 Today is the anniversary to your anniversary of Nipsey Hussle's passing. His murder. Yeah. And it's just like it's a wild to think that that was two years ago right um but also like it's it just the people still i i i'm it's wild to see how much more popular he's been getting posthumously um like i was listening to last i was watching the latest season of last chance you and like they had his track on there and i was like oh my god like see and i but i get it that it was taking
Starting point is 00:19:07 place in la and you know he's the la guy so on top of that just the i also just see how many people have you know for good or bad obviously he's he was a you know staunch capitalist we saw him do the you know our proud to pay thing when he sold a thousand mixtapes for a hundred dollars a piece out of his trunk and sold out um he knows what it is but he also poured that back into the community and was actively trying to improve the areas he was from it should yeah it's it's interesting to see how people are like sort of modeling after that in other cities too where people are starting to feel some duty uh to their their home their hometown their neighborhood and if they can see that there is something that they can contribute positively
Starting point is 00:19:50 to that that they are it doesn't always have to be money it may just be like i have a skill or some knowledge i want to impart on everyone and they do so yeah just rest in peace yeah yeah i think there's a lot of that going around particularly with social media sort of allowing the local celebrity hero to reach a global local status which is that like oh we know this person reps that neighborhood and a lot of us enjoys that person um and therefore maybe we can help their hood and i think that's really beautiful i think we'll probably start seeing pop smoke coming up soon his uh first and last movie is about to drop. Apparently he was just stunning in it.
Starting point is 00:20:30 He's a 21-year-old kid with so much promise. Not just a great rapper, not just a great actor, but by all accounts that I've heard, like a good person. And so, you know, it sucks that we're still plagued by these sort of senseless, violent tragedies. Yeah. you know it sucks that we're still plagued by these sort of senseless violent tragedies um yeah but it's also incredible to see with limited time how much good can be done and how much awareness can be brought to a community in need so yeah it's in peace yeah man pop smoke i mean dude that bringing the you know doing that brooklyn drill sound okay uh and finally on twitter hashtag trump social platform rules is trending uh because i you know how this shit starts it's you'll never find the thing where it's like you're seeing all the positive shit on it it's just uh a bunch of people dunking on it with all kinds of just dumb memes about what you know how trump's social platforms is probably a hot no hot
Starting point is 00:21:25 clan orgy uh over chat if you look at look at the hashtag it's just uh a barrage of horrible memes like really terrible quickly put together not very poignant memes oh what a mess yeah it's the one thing you do see are like people who are like no like um i'm all this like liberate something they're like well there's no child pornography no censorship of peaceful law-abiding viewpoints challenging the mainstream no racism no new world order sycophancy i mean he's like in other words not like twitter it's great i mean it's all who knows what the hell's going on over there i'm trying to find anything of value in this hashtag this year and uh no there's nothing real one i don't i can't everything seems kind of off um let's see nope i do like this like meme of where it's just Trump gesticulating wildly with his hands.
Starting point is 00:22:27 And it's, I love the poorly educated. I don't know why that makes me laugh. But it does. They're great. Love them. Absolutely. Fantastic. So, yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:37 Good luck on that other, whatever, watering hole for people who actually don't have any idea how good this country could be. All right. Well, Joelle, thanks for stopping by. It was good times. I'll see you tomorrow. Tomorrow's episode, we got a banger for you. We might continue the streak a few more days. Keep it hot. We will. Until then, y'all, please
Starting point is 00:23:00 wear a mask. Wash your hands. Please try and be safe. If are have access to a vaccination you know let's do let's get that shit done baby it's not that painful it's amazing go get it i did it it was totally worth it i feel better already hey let me get up let me get hey let me hold half a vaccine real quick um also yes guys and do all that stuff be safe and more importantly be a good ally if someone is on some fuck shit, discriminatory nonsense, don't be somebody who doesn't say anything.
Starting point is 00:23:30 You know, you don't have to fuck somebody up, but at least speak the fuck up. Because most people, just like we saw where that, unfortunately, that Asian woman was stomped out by some random attacker in New York. People stood idly by and watched it happen. And that shit is so disgusting. A security guard, like, ugh. Yeah. Please do not stand idly by.
Starting point is 00:23:51 And, you know, consider your own safety, but please, please, please. That's how we're going to fucking show people that people of good conscience outnumber the fucking evil doers. So until then, peace and blessings. We love y'all. Take care. Bye.
Starting point is 00:24:04 Bye. the fucking evil doers. So until then, peace and blessings. We love y'all. Take care. Bye. Bye.
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