The Daily Zeitgeist - Trendy From The Block 5/18: TikTok, Galactic Starcruiser, Andy Warhol, Ron DeSantis, Dodgers, Jennifer Lopez

Episode Date: May 18, 2023

In this edition of Trendy From The Block, Miles and super producer Becca discuss TikTok getting "banned" in Montana, Disney closing the Galactic Starcruiser experience, the Supreme Court ruling agains...t the Warhol Foundation, Ron DeSantis' latest glut of anti-trans bills, the Dodgers uninviting the Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence from Pride Night, and Jennifer Lopez lamenting the hard life of her children!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me for I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and Shekinah Church. Listen to Forgive Me for I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is Season 4 of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry.
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Starting point is 00:01:36 i'm still i'm still trendy from the block that's a that's a that's j-lo because we're gonna be talking about j-lo in a little bit uh and i'm Miles, and I'm joined here by Becca Ramos. How are you, Becca? Hello, hello. I'm good. Okay. Were you nae-nae-ing there? No.
Starting point is 00:01:53 I'm just moving. You were kind of doing a bit of a... Or is it like a single lady, maybe? Why is she always dancing? And I'm like, I don't know. Are you always dancing? Yeah, I'm just always moving. Like, I'm always like...
Starting point is 00:02:02 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, right, right. You're dynamic. You're dynamic. You're mercurial. Yeah, I'm just bumping all the I'm always like, Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, right, right. You're dynamic. You're dynamic. You're mercurial. Yeah, I'm just bumping all the time. Well, good to have you. Let's talk about some of the trends that are happening right this moment. Montana's trending because Greg, Greg. Yeah, you know Greg over in Montana. Governor Greg Gianforte, who I believe body slammed a politician many years ago in a previous campaign. Anyway, has banned TikTok in Montana. Now, what that means.
Starting point is 00:02:29 Yeah, I was going to ask you. How is that possible? Apparently, it's going to take effect in January. And it's naming TikTok. They're basically prohibiting the app from operating within state lines. So it also outlines potential fines of $10,000 per day for violators, including app stores found to host a social media application. I don't know like how you're going to,
Starting point is 00:02:51 I don't know how you do that. And many more than that. It's like, how are you going to win a lawsuit that doesn't that, where this is clearly like infringing on people's like first amendment rights. Yeah. I just have so many technical questions of say you are someone who
Starting point is 00:03:07 resides outside of montana you happen to visit montana let's say on a bachelorette party because it does seem like ladies are going to montana lately uh you go and so you're not allowed to use tiktok while you're in montana even if you don't live in montana like is it any person visiting montana it's and or is it like the apple store will restrict downloads in montana like it won't have it on the apple store of if you like see now you're asking too many technical questions this is just a drum up sense to me in this yeah it's just to keep the steady beat of, you know, Chinese suspicion going in the government, because as he even says, it's to protect Montanans and their data from the Chinese Communist Party. Sure, man. Sure.
Starting point is 00:03:57 Good luck with that, man. Like your kids hate you. That's pretty much what's going on there. So, yeah, good luck with that. I mean, like, that's already like a can of worms. Like when we were talking about, even when they were talking, like they had the dumb idea in Congress to do is like,
Starting point is 00:04:10 how? Yeah. Also like people, like people are making a living off of that shit. Yeah. What the fuck are you doing? So we'll see. I mean,
Starting point is 00:04:18 again, it just feels like more, you know, more red, red state, red meat. You know what I mean? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:24 Even the mommy bloggers you know they're making i'd argue very exploitative money off of tiktok so yeah yeah exactly um so let's see what else is trending the star cruiser is trending the star wars galactic star cruiser in orlando is closing this fall sometime in September. My dad's collapsing to his knees right now. Is your dad also a Star Wars man child like me? Oh, 100%. Let's go.
Starting point is 00:04:53 Best believe. Can I take your dad? Yes, he would love that. I'll go with your dad. Absolutely. Okay, cool. Because all I know is- As a Valley kid himself who is a Star Wars man child,
Starting point is 00:05:02 he would love to go with you to Star Wars. Yeah, I mean, because this is like, to me, I'm like, oh, shit, the fucking clock is ticking. Because I was like, oh, shit, I want to do that. I mean, it's expensive. That's the only thing that I'm like, ugh, bro, I don't know. Yeah, my parents went two years ago. It was, I think, summer 2021. So they did get to experience it at least one more time before it all ended.
Starting point is 00:05:25 Oh, he's been on the Star Cruiser? He went on the hotel thing? Oh, yeah, absolutely. Did he dress up the whole time he was there? No, he didn't dress up the whole time. Oh, man. Yeah, I mean. He's not that committed, you know, but he likes to go enjoy and take photos.
Starting point is 00:05:40 I will say this. Holly, who hosts Stuff You Missed missed in history class massive star wars fan she describes herself as a rabid star wars fan she says i have rabies i think she's been on that shit like three times and every time i ask her i'm like yo how lit it she's like it's the best fucking place i've ever been and she dresses the fuck up it's so weird all they're saying is like we're closing it and we love that we had this bespoke boutique experience and we were going to apply what we've learned here to like other experiences for people to know again i'm like i hate when i become such like a hoe for star wars but i'm sorry i want to live on a spaceship and i feel like they had a few because my parents were a disney family i know
Starting point is 00:06:22 sorry i'm sorry did you see that fight that happened at Disney? What? Did you see that fight, that fist fight that broke out where people want to take pictures in front of like the little garden thing, like the little flower display? Yo, these people were scrapping. This one dude beat the brakes off another dad. Oh my God. No, my parents go.
Starting point is 00:06:39 It makes sense. Or they used to go like every year, every other year. It's like the only family vacation we go on because my dad hates traveling so we always go to disney world and they do like the whole nine yards like we stay on the property we do the mail plan we eat at the restaurants so you know my parents are like all about this kind of stuff and i feel like they've had a couple of these themed hotels that have been hit or miss but i feel like this is one of the ones that was like it was a wait list to like get in and like rents and yeah stuff because they have another one that is um over by magic kingdom i don't remember what that one is and then they have like the
Starting point is 00:07:14 polynesian um right right right yeah so i'm shocked that they would after the anticipation of this star cruiser to shut it down yeah Yeah. I mean, it must, I'd imagine knowing how businesses operate. It's that they don't want to, it's too expensive or something, or it's not making enough money. But I, I can't believe that. Cause I feel like again,
Starting point is 00:07:35 there's whatever. I don't know. Unless you think from a spectacle place, like they are transitioning to more Marvel stuff and they might change it into a Marvel hotel. I don't know why, like you can still look you fucking capitalists you can still make money off of us literally we'll still throw our fucking dollars at you because we want to pretend that we are fucking han solo and shit i don't know man i don't know it's too much it's too much too much uh zeitgang if you've been in
Starting point is 00:08:05 his bullshit and underrated or overrated let me know because then that'll probably free me my dad took pictures and he didn't stay at that one they always stay at the one that is connected to epcot where they can like because they like that you can take this little ferry to um hollywood studios and oh yeah you could walk to epcot, it's the perfect location to be the most central, I think, to all of the parks. Right. Because it's, like, only a 15-minute bus ride to Magic Kingdom.
Starting point is 00:08:31 And, obviously, the Animal Kingdom is the farthest way, but that's because it's, like, legitimately, like, far away from everything. Yeah, I don't remember which one it is, because it's, like, Boardwalk or Broadway. There's, like, it's on the Boardwalk one. Right. They always stay there.
Starting point is 00:08:45 But I think they went and visited, because you can eat at the different restaurants you know there's a restaurant in the star cruiser so they I think had reservations there so they like got it I don't even think you can even get a fucking reservation now yeah no no they stopped like after kovat and like I think after my parents went that was the last time that Disney's like customer experience is really good even then my parents went, that was the last time that Disney's like customer experience is really good. Even then my parents were like, we don't know if we're going to go back to Disney for a while because it was such a bad like customer experience. They had taken away a lot of the privileges for people who are loyal, like Disney folks.
Starting point is 00:09:18 I mean, we've talked about in TDZ where like you spend all your money going here and now they're like having this expensive thing for like the park passes and like you can no longer just like like get access to certain things without paying an extra premium they're not doing the meal plan anymore they're not doing reservations it's just like right a lot of stuff all right well it is what it is it is you know whatever whatever i'll i'll just i'll just get really high and watch star wars or some shit and it'll be enough uh what else the supreme court is trending because they've been making some some actually you know decisions that make it seem like people are on to them that they are a fully politicized body of bribe-taking freaks uh but this time they came down on the right side of you know a photographer's copyright suit so this is from a photographer by
Starting point is 00:10:05 the name of lynn goldsmith who took a picture of prince but andy warhol then used like that image to make art and basically they ruled in lynn goldsmith's favor this photographer uh 72 that the that warhol's images did not constitute a fair use under copyright law we know about that as creators without you know apparently Is it transformative, etc.? But this is going to reverberate through a lot of creative industries because essentially what it's saying is like, yeah, man, if you have copyrighted work and other people are trying to flip that shit,
Starting point is 00:10:36 especially in the age of AI and stuff, you may be able to claim some, seek some damages there. So, yeah. Which is great. It's a great move, move i think for artists and creators even though this is a case that is like from the 80s question mark i wonder what brought it to the supreme court as of late or like has it been on the docket for that long i don't know it's probably just i have i wish i knew how any of it worked all i do is i just make stuff up on the fly i don't
Starting point is 00:11:03 even know who clarence thomas is to be honest i think he's cool i don't know uh he's black so he's cool right no yikes oh no he's not doing right but oh no wait wait skinfolk and kinfolk no please clarence no please what am i reading wait i did a whole i did a whole behind the bastards uh episode series on him yeah that's right i remember now he sucks. All right. Let's take a quick break and we'll be right back to talk about some other like one interesting thing and then two sucky things. But I'm sorry. That's what's trending.
Starting point is 00:11:33 We'll be right back. I'm Jess Casaveto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and L.A.-based Shekinah Church, an alleged cult that has impacted members for over two decades. LA-based Shekinah Church, an alleged cult that has impacted members for over two decades. Jessica and I will delve into the hidden truths between high control groups and interview dancers, church members, and others whose lives and careers have been impacted, just like mine.
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Starting point is 00:15:06 A few other terrible don't say gay bills. And one of the worst transgender bathroom bills ever of all time goes to Ron DeSantis. The way this bill is worded is that basically if a cis person is in a bathroom with a transgender person and they they're like i don't know this person might be trans an employee can tell the transgender person to leave and if the person does not leave for any reason they will be charged with criminal trespass that this is like it doesn't even work like what like essentially it's like you can't even use a bathroom if you're trans absolutely it's absolutely fucking nonsense but again he's on a tour right now because he's really i don't again because he's not like charismatic and like he kind of looks dorky in pictures he's trying to go for full cruelty full pain as you know how he's going to differentiate i guess from trump uh but my god like every every
Starting point is 00:16:06 fucking bill that he signs gets fucking worse and worse and worse to the point you're like when when are you just going to do like summary executions in the street yeah i mean in it's kind of the point i mean obviously it's been very much in the media of like disney battling desantis right now but an article as you were about, that just popped up of how Disney is shutting down like a billion dollars worth of business in Florida because of all of DeSantis' bullshit. So, you know, it's like a weird battle that I'm glad Disney is fighting.
Starting point is 00:16:38 You know, they could be doing more in other areas. But again, it's a bad situation when you're like, who do I root for what the fuck i feel like larry david in that palestinian chicken episode when i'm yes which what who am what who why uh so yeah i mean oh my god i may may his reign last for not long please please. Yeah, get out of here. I mean, but it sounds like a lot of Democratic operatives are starting to feel a little bit better about, you know, their potential for wins in the states. I mean, I've seen those maps. They are carved up and cut up against the odds.
Starting point is 00:17:28 But hey, whatever needs to happen, because I know it's like like most states, you know, it's like it's not everybody there is a desantis fan a lot of people just fucking end up caught up in the fucking culture wars that their stupid ass governors want to throw down because they want to pump their little presidential peepees up before they run for the primary yeah i mean it's the same i would say florida's in a similar boat as uh texas has been with greg abbott for years and years and years and years there are a lot of people in te in Texas that are not his fucking biggest fan as they should not be because he is absolute fucking vile vitriol of Texas. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:54 Yeah. Again, it's like even to like, I know people who live in Texas that are not Abbott fans and they're just kind of like, I don't, I, this is fucked up.
Starting point is 00:18:03 Like I don't even, and now, especially to a lot of people who, you know, Latin X Hispanic people, they're like, they the fuck they're just kind of like, I don't, I, this is fucked up. Like, I don't even, and now, especially too, a lot of people who, you know, Latinx, Hispanic people, they're like, the fuck, they're like signing bills that are trying to outlaw like brown people. Like, do I, should I live here? It's horrifying. I mean, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:18:15 He's actually horrifying for like, to the level of DeSantis is for Florida for trans people. Greg Abbott for years has been terrorizing Texas. Oh yeah. I mean, think of how he just vilified like those people who were killed by the guy who was like shooting his gun he's like well they were illegal immigrants it's like wow uh but again they're they're speaking for a rapidly dwindling audience of people um so you know the next step is just full-scale fascism um what else the dodgers i gotta say la dodgers what in the fuck are y'all doing this is a fucking shame it's ashonda rhymes the la dodgers on wednesday
Starting point is 00:18:56 they were giving an award to the sisters of perpetual indulgence which is like this group a fundraising group lgbtq activists like they activists. They dress up as sort of like campy Catholic figures and things like this. But what they do is they fundraise for great causes. Because of the outrage of people like Marco Rubio, and they're like, this is an anti-Catholic extremist group, and they're about indoctrinating your kids, et cetera, et cetera. Also, they're like into about indoctrinating your kids etc etc you know like also that you know they're like a charity like drag group the dodgers are removing them from their annual pride night that makes me sad because of fucking creep ass right wing pressure this is not fucking florida
Starting point is 00:19:36 man this is whatever i mean i wish i could say better about the owners of the team but that's clearly their decision and they felt uh it's not worth it to us to, I don't know, actually recognize a group that's doing good simply because they're in drag and you have enough. Screaming Twitter avatars telling you that this is bad, such a fucking bad look. And again, like just on the heels of talking about Rhonda Santus, like this is the time when you, if you have the ability to, to, to do this, to platform people or to, to align yourselves with them, you should be doing it rather than fucking caving to these, these really, really terrible people to put it lightly. That's a euphemism. Really, really terrible people is a euphemism.
Starting point is 00:20:17 That's the best I'm going to do right now. Um, but yeah, so cool. But yeah, so cool. We'll see what charity or like what group they're going to replace for like their sort of like community hero award, which is what the group, the Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence, we're going to receive. But yeah, we'll see what they do. Just shows you like, man, shit is shit is going backwards. It's sliding, which is why we have to be very on top of it as just like people to be able to like call it out as soon as you can with what with whatever voice we can um and then jennifer lopez is our final trending topic um she she recently gave an interview about how she is wracked with guilt that her fame makes her the life of her twins max and emmy just so quote unquote hard and she says quote i did
Starting point is 00:21:08 that to them which feels a little bit like you're patting yourself on the back like that's how lit i am my life is my life is so good i mean my kids live so hard my brand is so powerful that my kids are like up and miserable and i feel bad for them you know but i did that you know you know me i'm jenny from the block shout out to those kids though uh but i get it she she like overall it's more just like you know the interview more reads about like how she's just really as a parent wants to protect them and like this is one thing because being the twin children of j-lo and mark anth, you know, they got a lot of attention. I do wonder because, I mean,
Starting point is 00:21:48 not that I am following J-Lo's social or anything like that or keeping like super tabs with her besides like the stuff that goes like incredibly viral. Yeah. I don't feel like her kids are that much in the spotlight. I, because- Me either.
Starting point is 00:22:03 Not to call J-Lo or not jaylo uh not to call mark anthony like a debbie dab but he is a man who's had four ex-wives who has six children okay he is spreading his seed far and wide and is he that involved in all his kids lives right right it's not like they're running on tour with Marc Anthony, being bothered by Marc Anthony's fame and life. And J.Lo, I feel like, has so many people on her team. And she keeps a pretty low profile for her kids that I have a hard time imagining their kids' lives as hard as maybe the psychological terror that I'm worried about the Kardashian clan's children. Right, right, right. Exactly. What is North going to be like growing up i don't know yeah we don't know i mean i can only man i don't know man i'll tell you this and i i like i talk about this a lot like
Starting point is 00:22:57 in the part of la i grew up in i know kids that were stars themselves as kids. And I know kids who were the children of really famous people. And sometimes like some kids are able to be healthy and have like their own way out of it. Sometimes if you live under a shadow, it can do all kinds of shit to your ability to like carve out your own identity. And it can take a very long time trying to figure out who the fuck you are
Starting point is 00:23:21 because everybody's like, you're so-and-so's kid. And yeah, i don't know i mean i i can see how it's tough but like at the end of the day uh j-lo did that to y'all j-lo did that yeah that's what she said she said i did that i mean like is it so funny how like i love how that one line is being like illuminated like and i and i did that to them by being so fucking famous you know what i mean i could have i could have stopped but no you heard about i know and i and if the rumors are true i don't let the help look me in my eye and i did that to them too and i did that because i am that all right j-lo you know good for you i'm glad uh i'm glad you did that though good luck to your kids good luck to them yeah max emmy if
Starting point is 00:24:04 you want to come on the podcast let us know we'd love to hear all the dirt or just you know we can just kind of have like a big open love fest and just kind of we can we can be here for you and hear what's going on babies they're not i think they're like 14 or something like that they're pretty yeah yeah yeah that is a weird that is a tough age though too like when people are like yo your mom is fucking hot like yeah can you imagine what people are saying you know what i mean i don't know or like your dad's has creepy eyes your dad like really loves women he's really just like out here huh do you even know your siblings i don't know that could be traumatizing yeah again max emmy into the show.
Starting point is 00:24:45 We'd love to hear from you. Let us know. Do we have it wrong? Because I'm, look, I'm ignorant and I'm willing to own that. And she's a Leo, you know? So it's like...
Starting point is 00:24:51 Who, J-Lo? Yeah. Rawr. Okay, let them know. Well, that's going to do it for us today on the trending episode. We'll tell you
Starting point is 00:24:57 what's trending tomorrow, obviously, for that part. But we got a whole episode coming up for you on Friday. Please enjoy the rest of your Thursday and get ready for Friday because we're almost there and the weather looks great right now. I love that.
Starting point is 00:25:11 And I hope it is where you are too. Until then, be kind to yourself, be kind to each other, be safe scientifically, medically, and stand up to all kinds of discrimination. And that's including this damn fucking homophobia and transphobia that's running roughshod through the nation right now.
Starting point is 00:25:26 Cause it's, it's nonsense. And I think most of us realize like, well, stop fucking around with our friends and neighbors. All right, y'all. We will catch y'all later and take care of yourselves. Bye. Bye. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult.
Starting point is 00:25:56 And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and Shekinah Church. Listen to Forgive Me For I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. Every great player needs a foil. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game.
Starting point is 00:26:30 Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Listen to the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. On the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Elf Beauty. Founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. Kay hasn't heard from her sister in seven years. I have a proposal for you. Come up here and document my project. All you need to do is record everything like you always do.
Starting point is 00:26:54 What was that? That was live audio of a woman's nightmare. Can Kay trust her sister or is history repeating itself? There's nothing dangerous about what you're doing. They're just dreams. Dream Sequence is a new horror thriller from Blumhouse Television, iHeartRadio, and Realm. Listen to Dream Sequence on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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