The Daily Zeitgeist - True Crime Bad Detective, AMC Theaters Make Monopoly Moves 02.07.23

Episode Date: February 7, 2023

In episode 1417, Jack and guest co-host DJ Danl Goodman are joined by writer and comedian, Maggie Maye, to discuss… Is Police Incompetence Why We Like True Crime? The Supreme Court Is Too Old For Th...is S**t (Basic Security Precautions), AMC Is Charging More For Non-S**tty Seats and more! US man cleaning out late grandmother’s apartment shot dead by police The Supreme Court Is Too Old For This S**t (Basic Security Precautions) Supreme Court justices used personal emails for work and ‘burn bags’ were left open in hallways, sources say AMC Is Charging More For Non-S**tty Seats Maggie Maye's Venmo: @MaggieMayehaha LISTEN: Yum (Jon Casey Edit) by HamdiSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me for I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and Shekinah Church. Listen to Forgive Me for I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradenti. And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. There's a lot to figure out when you're just
Starting point is 00:00:39 starting your career. That's where we come in. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in people who do, like negotiation expert Maury Tahiripour. If you start thinking about negotiations as just a conversation, then I think it sort of eases us a little bit. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports.
Starting point is 00:01:04 Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. Every great player needs a foil. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Listen to the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese on the iHeart on the iheart radio app apple podcast or wherever you
Starting point is 00:01:25 get your podcast presented by elf beauty founding partner of iheart women's sports hello the internet and welcome to season 274 episode 2 of their dailies i guys stay production of iheart radio this is a podcast where we take a deep dive into amer's shared consciousness. It's Tuesday, February 7th, 2023. My name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. P-L-U-M-P-R-Man. P-L-U-M-P-R-Man. P-L-U-M-P-R-Man. Hey, you, look at my legs. You might like them because they're such big, strong legs.
Starting point is 00:02:03 That is courtesy of Lex Lugie little timely METH OD man Reference there because that that was performed at the Grammys a couple nights ago Of course modified to talk about my plump juicy legs The thing that I must enjoy bragging about these days. You got great legs. Thanks, man. That means a lot.
Starting point is 00:02:28 Hey, bro. Those legs are sick. Wow. The name Plumpers was created by Blake Wexler. Oh, hell yeah. He's going to burn in hell for having created that word. What a ledge. All right.
Starting point is 00:02:42 Well, that voice you're hearing, a very special guest co-host, one of the EPs on this very network, the king of sting, that bitch on Twitch. It's DJ Danil Goodman! What is up, Zyte gang? How is everybody feeling? It's your boy, DJ Danil, a.k.a. Mr. Steal Your Aerial. We are back in the building. We're here to have some fun, do a little podcasting.
Starting point is 00:03:03 Jack, how you doing? I'm doing all right. I'm a little... Heck yeah. Steal your aerial. It's a Rocket League thing. Sure. All the heads will know. Yeah, of course.
Starting point is 00:03:12 The heads will know. That's what we're here for. Here for the heads. Well, Dana, we are thrilled to be joined once again by one of the funniest writers and comedians out here doing it. You've seen her on TV, stages across America. She's written for Netflix's History of Swear Words, a local periodical called The New Yorker, I believe. Have you heard of it?
Starting point is 00:03:33 She's at the point in her life when she's deeply calmed by miniatures. Welcome back to the show, the hilarious, the talented, Maggie Mae! Yay! Yay! Yay!
Starting point is 00:03:46 I cheer for myself. As well you should. As you should, exactly. Self-esteem. That's right. That's what I, instead of having self-esteem, I like to just say the word sometimes. Self-esteem.
Starting point is 00:03:59 Self-esteem! I figure sometime it might catch on. But how are you doing maggie you do have miniatures behind you so does that mean you're yeah i'm pretty good i'm doing all right yeah this is a just like the best place in the house to record so it's nice to be able to see the reflection of my house behind me yeah it's a great mini house thank you any any new developments in the world of the miniatures that are happening in your in your household um let's see this house is pretty much done so i'm
Starting point is 00:04:33 starting up a cafe my oh yeah my dolls are gonna have a cafe pretty soon amazing nice and uh i'm thinking about there's like a lot of not custom, but like newer, I guess, custom kind of dolls coming out like the inspiring women and stuff. And I'm kind of thinking of getting them and unboxing them and putting them into the new things, which is not what you're supposed to be doing. Those are like stuff that you put in a little case. In a vault. Yeah. Just in case, you know, something goes awry and you need to sell it. Right next to your
Starting point is 00:05:08 Beanie Babies. Yeah. I'm just going to take them out and spread them loose with all my loose dolls. Yeah, I love it. There you go. Is all the miniature stuff handcrafted or how much of that is made versus acquired? So, see the dolls
Starting point is 00:05:23 and the stuff that comes with them is all made. And I also got, like, super into these mini brands that are the, you know, tiny little brand name things. But there's a lot of stuff that I make on my own. Like, I don't know if you can see the bathroom down here.
Starting point is 00:05:40 That is so cool. The toilet back there is a Glade plug-in that i repurposed amazing that is really cool i love that so it looks like a fancy toilet oh also a glade plug-in toilet would probably be a successful product yeah that sounds huge yeah smells tight electrocute a couple people but otherwise i feel like that would work really well yeah like don't you want a toilet that smells like mountain breeze or whatever yes yes i do all right maggie we're gonna get to know you a little bit better in a moment first we're gonna tell our
Starting point is 00:06:15 listeners a couple of things we're talking about we're gonna talk about police incompetence and true crime we're gonna talk about the supreme Court incompetence and being just too old for very basic security precautions. They're like, we don't know what the heck happened with all these document leaks. We just leave our sensitive documents in a bag in the hallway. For real. It's called a burn bag. And some of them actually do the thing and like shred the stuff in the burn bag.
Starting point is 00:06:45 And some of them just leave it in the hallway because they're old, old people who just they're not built for it. That's we are going to talk about. We might talk about Hogwarts legacy or you might have heard us talk about that yesterday on the trending episode. Oh, did you already? Oh, dang. No, man, you would. Oh, Dan. No, man. You would... Oh, my God. Dan, I'll...
Starting point is 00:07:07 Oh, God. Cut that. We time travel, sir. We time travel on this show. We record the trending after the thing. Justin, please cut that. It's an embarrassing miss by me. I have an EP to say.
Starting point is 00:07:23 What are you talking about? So foolish stays super producer justin has darn it decreed that it stays and i i'm gonna second that please tweet at me i'm embarrassed amc is changing their policy to charge more for seats that aren't shitty, which is cool of them. Miserable. Yeah. Awesome. We'll talk about that. Plenty more. But first, Maggie, we do like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history?
Starting point is 00:07:59 Other than the inspiring women dolls, which I feel like I already talked about, I was searching for work from home gigs. I'm looking for another side gig and I would like to do that from home. There you go. I don't want to be leaving my house, putting on pants, you know, nothing. I just want to be home. I'll take care of whatever data entry
Starting point is 00:08:18 or whatnot y'all need to do and close my laptop and be done with it at the end of the day. Love that. I feel like my life could use that kind of structure of the day. There you go. Love that. Love that. I feel like my life could use that kind of structure, you know? I love that for you. And I love that for the inspiring women dolls as well.
Starting point is 00:08:32 I'm going to take them out of their boxes just to be working. Yeah. Day-to-day jobs. That's right. What are inspiring women dolls like part of a brand? Like, is it Barbie? Is it an American Girl doll? Yeah, it's Mattel.
Starting point is 00:08:46 And so they have like Bessie Coleman, who was the first Black woman to have a pilot license to fly a plane. Then Madam CJ Walker, who was the first Black woman millionaire. Nice. Ruining all of our edges, but she got that money. I'm not mad at her. My edges will never be the same, but I'm not mad at her my edges will never be the same but i'm not mad at her for it what is something you think is overrated uh honestly restaurants
Starting point is 00:09:13 oh okay i never went for this i never went back after the pandemic because i'm naturally a germ foe and i never felt really comfortable about, you know, people just handling my food. I've worked in restaurants. I've seen, I didn't seen some shit. Right. And I worked at a restaurant recently and just stuff that I wash when I cook, they weren't washing when they cook. So I was just like, I don't understand why. And I, I mean i mean i'm a good cook i'm not going to sit here and you know lie to y'all say that i'm not i'm a good cook so i just don't like to i i just don't want to be out there subjecting myself to you know who knows what y'all have on here that you didn't wash off and that you didn't clean and you know have the meal
Starting point is 00:10:05 not be as good as i know i can probably do at home yeah that's not everyone won't skank punk probably rock my shit but i mean the rest of y'all pgi friday don't try it with me yeah yeah i will say i went to a uh a i will not name this place i'm not trying to drag them but i went and got k barbecue at a point that felt safe during the pandemic and i just got a glimpse into the kitchen where i was like that doesn't look right i'm not okay with this yeah and uh me thinks that it had something to do with a little pando slide if you will yeah just being understaffed the yeah yeah just people trying to like make do with way less or trying to undersell or rather underpay their overworked staff. It's just like, this is too much.
Starting point is 00:10:54 I don't vibe with this at all. When it gets to that point when it's like, oh, well, it's good enough, that's when I'm out. That's a bad sign. Good enough is not you know good no i feel like i'm the only person i've talked to who like worked at a restaurant and just got a whole new appreciation for how good restaurant food is like i i loved the restaurants i ate at i was like yo give me more of these fries they are so good i think it was also i like worked at a time when i was like young and very
Starting point is 00:11:25 hungry all the time and so i was just like working around this food that looked delicious and just like wanting to eat it off of the customer's plates the entire time i was around it i was just so i just came away i worked at a an ital restaurant in Kentucky. So this is not going to be Lexington, Kentucky. This is not going to be your finest dining establishment. I came away from that shit. I started as a dishwasher. I was a busboy. I came away from that just being like, man, Italian food is so fucking good.
Starting point is 00:12:00 That was my takeaway. Maybe I wasn't paying close enough attention or just don't have a proper appreciation for how hard germs are going to kill me one day but around here like oh man can i have a bite of that lasagna rito yeah that looks good wrapped i didn't know we didn't know italians are wrapping it now kentucky has an interesting relationship to ital Italian food because they also have like the only fast food Italian restaurant that I'm aware of. Like drive through Italian restaurants called Frizzoli's. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:38 They have like baked ziti. Like the pasta is always. Drive through? Yeah. Drive through baked ziti. Drive through pizza. Like the pasta is always through. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:43 Drive through baked ziti. Drive through pizza. Like it's just treated as yet another fast food establishment down there. It's just another thing they could do. Yeah. Yeah. That's that's sitting in the rack for like 13 hours all day. Just sitting under a heat lamp like, yeah, you want the baked ziti?
Starting point is 00:13:00 It's actually good. I mean, it's not it's not good, but it's better than you would expect. I think what we're learning is I have wildly low expectations for my food. I like to say you have a wide palette. How about that? You have a wide palette. A wide palette that goes up and down the ladder of quality.
Starting point is 00:13:18 I think that's a good way to be. I support that. As a matter of fact, Jack, I'm turning the story around. Good for you. Don't go to frizzoli's until you tried it there we go i'm with that i'm with that and when i lived there in the 90s there there was like a competitor a fast food italian chain so i assume this was like something that was happening nationwide but everyone else is like no what what the fuck are you talking about no one's gonna like eat pasta out of a drive-thru that's so so strange hey hey let
Starting point is 00:13:45 they who has not eaten taco bell cast the first exactly okay yeah it's all none of it's convenient right come on come on no we've all been there is right that's really funny that is genius honestly i'm worried that that instagram's gonna hear that and be like, you know, we need to incept that into some Italian restaurant's brain. I've unleashed a beast. Some pizza yolo
Starting point is 00:14:13 just woke up in a hot sweat. Did you guys fuck with stuffed shells ever as a kid? Yeah. The pasta shells? Sure. Yeah. I made them. I made them like a month ago. Okay. Oh, okay oh nice yeah what were we stuffed with what are we talking about cheese with let's see it was a seafood situation so i could crab and shrimp beautiful okay yeah beautiful frizzoli's could never
Starting point is 00:14:39 i think i was caught dead just having a sense memory of having stuffed shells from frizzolies and being like, this is not good. I think they were wise enough to not take the shell side of it to a seafood component of what is being stuffed in there. They were just like, nah, it's ricotta, friend. That's all you will find in these shells yeah ricotta is my usual no they don't you can't like do that the next day you know no absolutely not i've done uh stuffed shells with with just like ricotta and parmesan sitting in a whole bed of tomato sauce and it's like you eat them once and you're like that was way too much cheese and then they sit in the freezer for like a month and you're like that was way too much cheese and then they sit in the freezer
Starting point is 00:15:25 for like a month and you're like you know what yeah i'm never gonna eat these again okay i think my issue is too much sauce too it's just like yeah the way the way i've seen them prepared it's just in a vat of sauce that you you need some free breadsticks which frizzolis will give you so stop that shit up so just saying maggie what is something you think is underrated uh underrated i think is venmoing your black friends and cohorts on black events and holidays and celebrations hell yeah that shit is lit and it's tight and it never gets old never gets old and always pays getting a venmo that's like sorry for my ancestors i'd never get tired of that you get that a lot does that happen a lot
Starting point is 00:16:12 not enough yeah exactly i think this is a call to action more than anything it's always fun it's always good i remember once uh was it black history month or was it juneteenth it was something and i like jokingly was like, I will absolve you from your white guilt for today. And a bunch of people sent me Venmos and I was just like, okay, my child, you're one of the good ones. And it was, you know, I got some the next day too.
Starting point is 00:16:38 And I wasn't like, this is over. I was like, no, this is tight. Like this just happened, you know, Black History Month should be the time that you should be Venmoing your black friends out of nowhere because who doesn't like to get a venmo out of nowhere i will put you on a subscription service where you can venmo me daily yeah daily subscription follow your heart i mean follow your heart get the patreon going support support should be constant let's be real the white guilt patreon exactly the white guilt patreon
Starting point is 00:17:06 I know you felt absolved last month but this month what have you done anti-racist this month thank you alright Maggie Mae's Venmo will be in the footnotes prominently displayed
Starting point is 00:17:22 there you go top footnote top footnote all right we're gonna take a quick break and we'll be back to talk about some news i'm jess casavetto executive producer of the hit netflix documentary series dancing for the devil the 7m tiktok cult and i'm cleo gray former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and LA-based Shekinah Church, an alleged cult that has impacted members for over two decades.
Starting point is 00:18:02 Jessica and I will delve into the hidden truths between high control groups and interview dancers, church members, and others whose lives and careers have been impacted, just like mine. Through powerful, in-depth interviews with former members and new, chilling firsthand accounts, the series will illuminate untold and extremely necessary perspectives. Forgive Me For I Have Followed will be more than an exploration. It's a vital revelation aimed at ensuring these types of abuses never happen again. Listen to Forgive Me For I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:18:37 Hey, I'm Gianna Pradente. And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline, a new podcast from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. When you're just starting out in your career, you have a lot of questions like, how do I speak up when I'm feeling overwhelmed? Or can I negotiate a higher salary if this is my first real job? Girl, yes. Each week, we answer your unfiltered work questions. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in experts who do, like resume specialist Morgan Sanner. The only difference between the person who doesn't get the job and the person who gets
Starting point is 00:19:14 the job is usually who applies. Yeah, I think a lot about that quote. What is it like you miss 100% of the shots you never take? Yeah, rejection is scary, but it's better than you rejecting yourself. Together, we'll share what but it's better than you rejecting yourself. Together, we'll share what it really takes to thrive in the early years of your career without sacrificing your sanity or sleep. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark vs. Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game.
Starting point is 00:19:57 Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really near them. Why is that? I just come here to play basketball every single day, and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is unapologetically black. I love her. What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game?
Starting point is 00:20:19 And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better this new season will cover all things sports and culture listen to naked sports on the black effect podcast network iheart radio app apple podcast or wherever you get your podcast the black effect podcast network is sponsored by diet coke And we're back. And so I had a connection. I was reading about police in Ohio shooting and killing a 28-year-old who was cleaning his dead grandmother's apartment out. And a neighbor saw him and his parents in the grandma's apartment and called the cops,
Starting point is 00:21:08 which don't do that. What do you think you're preventing? The police then claimed that this kid ran from them or this man ran from them, started using his minivan as a weapon. They released the body cam video on Friday because that's the day they drop incriminating video now, I guess. But now they're like saying we did nothing wrong. Like the video is like very shaky and dark. cam video on friday because that's the day they drop incriminating video now i guess but now they're like saying we did nothing wrong like the video is like very shaky and dark and it's
Starting point is 00:21:30 impossible to tell what's happening but that's the only kind of video that gets released it's like we'll release the video it's like you can't even see anything so congrats on doing your job i suppose but police are like under a national spotlight and just can't stop shooting people to death for no good reason. And I don't know if it's because the national spotlight is not critical enough or it felt like the national media coverage of Tyree Nichols was like, all right, well, they system is a fucking crime against humanity and needs to be dismantled immediately. So in that, I heard an ad for a true crime podcast that was just quote after quote of victim family members being like, they told us she'd be home and not to worry about it. The police completely dropped this lead. The police forgot to interrogate the most important witness and it occurred to me like that is all that true crime really is like i've heard a lot of people speculate about why true crime is suddenly very popular and i'd never really connected it to the rising awareness of just wide ranging police incompetence,
Starting point is 00:22:45 which is like deep and thorough and wide ranging police incompetence. Like serial is the story of the police completely fucking up that investigation up and banished was a massive hit true crime podcast. And it's the story of like the police fucking up that investigation to the degree that I suspected they were involved in the killing and covering something up after the first season. And then like because there was pressure put on them to solve the crime because they were kind of implicated, they solved it. And it was just like something unrelated. But that's how incompetent they were, is that they appeared to be like hiding something.
Starting point is 00:23:24 That's how incompetent they were, is that they appeared to be hiding something. And I just, I wonder if that is why true crime is seeing this massive surge in popularity at this time, when we're also starting to get just more and more evidence that the police tend to fall between completely incompetent, like we talked about last week, how they solve 2% of violent crimes that fall to them, and themselves racist and like violent predators. And so like true crime just tells stories that are more accurate to lived experience, which is that. I don't know. I think movies and TV shows really still have this idea of a safety net and that like you have to outsmart the police like the standard is the police are going to like catch the criminal or investigate it and it's just not it's not the case, I feel like we live in a heavily DIY culture.
Starting point is 00:24:31 Right. And seeing that these crimes are not getting solved and then knowing that the people who we have tasked to solve these crimes are not doing it or that they're wholesale fucking up or whatnot, that leaves a whole new opportunity for people to go diy their own crime right which is pretty much serial like you put whatever crime you want on your pinterest like i solved this like if the police can't do it and this person with a podcast can do it what's to stop you know amy and Miss Gogan from saying, well, I could do that, too. I can do that.
Starting point is 00:25:06 Anybody who watches, like, what's going on or watches what's unfolding, you know, our authorities are inept. And, you know, I've got a microphone and Internet connection. Like, anyone feels like they can solve a crime. Right. Truly. Right. Truly. the world really is you versus the criminal because the police are not an effective, like they're, they're certainly a wild card that can be introduced, but they're not actually doing an effective job of solving the crime.
Starting point is 00:25:54 They're just solving it. If attention gets drawn to it, that's the, that's the really frustrating part about the, about the, how much more technology and how much more money we put into policing. And just like, honestly, like warfare and surveillance and all of that in general is that like, about how much more technology and how much more money we put into policing. And just like, honestly, like warfare and surveillance and all of that in general is that like,
Starting point is 00:26:09 I would not hope, but would think that we'd be more on a minority report side of things at this point where like, we're not predicting crimes, but the fact that we need to so desperately chase people down and inflict violence on them, when you can probably, and again, not really not really like an advertisement for police but the fact that you can probably find people after the
Starting point is 00:26:31 fact and approach them in a more like safe and structured manner and like you know we are so surveilled that like why do we have to resort to the only the most violent ways to apprehend quote-unquote criminals when what is happening could just be like looked at maybe 12 hours later and then figured out and been like oh maybe we didn't need to actually like chase this person down with a car and like cause a 10 car pileup because we were on like a police chase or something like that like it is just so surprising that we have not thought to work smarter and simply are like shoot more people that's the that's the result of this yeah i don't know it's it's a mess i feel like i would not be surprised if there was some agreement between local news police and like advertisers that like you have to get into one chase that like lasts two hours every every couple
Starting point is 00:27:27 months in los angeles because that is like still a stop everything everybody turns on their tv to watch what's happening i think that falls into the category of like would would be shocked but not surprised right like the fact that the fact that you see cops out there looking for speeding tickets starting on like the 20th of every month like everything has a quota there has to be x amount of thing and it used to be because you know we need money for certain thing or it's still that but it's just now it's like well that quota also applies to how much news coverage certain things get and if we're not covering the police enough, then the public don't think blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And it's like, this is deeply sad and deeply disturbing.
Starting point is 00:28:10 But not surprising. But it's also in those situations where, like, during the whole defund the police thing, we had so many different ideas of who could take their place. Like, call in mental health people, call in these people, call these people instead of the police. So those like high speed chases and stuff, like who are you going to call for that?
Starting point is 00:28:32 Right. Right. That's a good question. So that's the kind of thing that you have to show to show that the police are necessary. Cause who's going to, you're going to call a mental health professional into start yelling stuff over a bullhorn.
Starting point is 00:28:44 It's not going to work. So there's a couple cities. believe dayton ohio uh another place where i lived and uh milwaukee wisconsin have both experimented with just not chasing just not getting into police chases because people kept getting hit by police cars and just like you said like yeah we're trusting that they'll be able to track the person down later or that it's not worth it too because when you engage in a police chase like you're putting so many people's lives at risk it's like so much so much so. All right. The Supreme Court, there's a mystery that is like, I don't know, an investigation that's happening into the leak of the Supreme Court's Roe v. Wade overturning, which is like the one thing about that decision that no one gives a fuck about that I know that I can't imagine anyone giving a fuck about but supreme court marshall uh which is supreme court marshall is like a great nba nickname somebody needs to come up with but it's also an official name an official title that someone named gail curly has and supreme court marshall gail curly came up empty and couldn't figure out how the draft opinion leaked which made people be
Starting point is 00:30:05 like wait why why how how could you like these are super locked down yeah documents like how would you not know lockdown how would you not know who leaked it like how could you not chase it down and i think part of me has the conspiracy theory that you know it was one of the conservative justices leaking it in order to you know rip the band-aid off and get people get give people an idea that it was coming which i think it did end up rather than being like one giant day of like fury where everything was like culminating and it came out came as a surprise there was this day where it was like this might probably definitely is going to happen but it was like deferred so i do think i don't know so one theory would be that they're just not doing a good
Starting point is 00:31:00 job of chasing it down because the white conservative men and women who you know do that job get away with whatever the fuck they want to but they're also saying that the information like the the security around documents and just everything at the supreme court is about what you would expect it to be if you just took a selection of a bunch of other like 60 to 80 year olds. And we're like, here, keep keep close lock on these. And like, you know, I guarantee at least one Supreme Court justice has all their passwords written on a little index card like that's taped to the side of their desktop computer in their office,
Starting point is 00:31:45 you know? Yeah. But a number of Supreme court justices just use personal email accounts for sensitive transmissions instead of secure servers because they're old as hell and slow. Like it was literally described as slow to adopt new technology. I'll tell you what happened. One of these Supreme court justices called their grandkid
Starting point is 00:32:05 or something because they got locked out of something. And they had all of that information up on their computer. And they were like, what? Roe versus Wade is going to what? Deal Reddit. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, that is too. It was a dumb mistake on someone's part and then someone saw it and someone was like i'll i'll leak this i'll make it good yeah well i'll leak it real good i think this is more and more a reason why there needs to be an age cap on all political jobs because if you don't know how to work technology at this point you are not to be trusted with the nation's secrets or major important decisions or any of that shit. If you can't remember or know a way to remember your
Starting point is 00:32:48 email password, you gotta go. That's no good. That's no good anymore. We can't have that. We simply cannot have that. Just putting something in the trash folder on your laptop isn't gonna cut it. Grandpa, you have to empty recycle
Starting point is 00:33:04 bin. Exactly. How it's actually gone. Well, have to empty recycle bin exactly how it's actually gone well it's in there no no it's not i don't believe in recycling you need to take it out of your computer that doesn't matter i've been looking for the trash bin so the justices use these things called burn bags which contain sensitive documents that are supposed to be destroyed but their use of that has no standard protocol so some of them make sure that they're taken away to be shredded while others just leave them lying open in a hallway for anyone to take nuts just a bag of sensitive documents that are like labeled sensitive like you don't put them in the burn bag unless they're sensitive. And they just put them in the hallway.
Starting point is 00:33:46 See, that's how every burn book got caught in junior high. Right. Someone didn't wait to hand it off to someone. They just put this little spiral notebook that said burn book right on the front. Right. And someone came along and just confiscated it. Did we not see Mean Girls? Exactly.
Starting point is 00:34:04 Did we not see Mean Girls? Did we not see Mean Girls? Come on. Learn from our media. Please. They're too old to see it. You're right. They're too old to see it. They don't know about the Lindsay Lohan classic. Thank you. They're like three generations too old to have seen it. You're right.
Starting point is 00:34:20 You're right. They know nothing about Gretchen Wieners. Come on. They also have VPN access that allows them to print documents from any computer. And they don't know what that is. Making it difficult to track copies. So there's just no...
Starting point is 00:34:36 It's not a question of how did this one thing leak? It's like, how is everything not leaking? Is basically what this report revealed.'s it's shocking also why why do they have sensitive i think all their stuff needs to leak like the supreme court like what do they need to keep secret i want to know what y'all are voting on i want to know what y'all do it in the day-to-day because honestly i don't know what my taxes are going to. Right. Truly. It really feels like every Supreme Court interaction
Starting point is 00:35:06 is just like some sort of hearing about something that we see a five-minute clip of on C-SPAN like the next day. And it's like, so you guys meet for five minutes once a month and like that's the whole job? Because that's what it feels like. Right.
Starting point is 00:35:18 That's what it sounds like. I'm very with you on that one, Maggie. A hundred percent. Yeah. And the fact that they're even like doing this investigation is so wild that they're just like, well, how did they find out what we're doing in our important meetings? It's like, that's weird. health care and ability to live of half of the population you're you're gonna be mad you're you're gonna go with the who told you that response the how dare you how dare you uh walk
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Starting point is 00:39:22 And so movies are back or they're not depending on like which article that you're reading. But AMC Theaters is on the verge of becoming a monopoly. big year where like everybody else went out of business and they were the only theater that had the scale to really stay in business and do well they're using that to possibly buy like arclight cinemas if they haven't done that already i think they're planning to and like there's just not cineplex i think is the other one that is on its way out. So they just have massive scale now. And that means what we've learned from other things like Ticketmaster, when a company becomes a monopoly, they stop giving a shit about what their consumers want. And that means policies like this one we just learned about. AMC Theaters just announced that it will be charging more money for seats that don't suck.
Starting point is 00:40:27 This is such bullshit. Yeah. Well, Nicole Kidman doesn't monologue for free. Okay. Facts. Yeah. And where else are you going to get to see a movie except for any other movie theater? There's like nothing they do that's better other than i guess the amc like guests or
Starting point is 00:40:45 the amc monthly pass some people really ride for the nicole kidman thing we're all pretending to enjoy it like ironically but it's not good and yeah but this is what three minutes at the beginning of a movie it's not all of a sudden like well i go to amc theaters to see this thing that i've watched on youtube 10 times already and it's been parodied on SNL. I'm not going for that. That's just like a little cherry on top for my getting to go. Yes, Nicole. Thank you. I'm okay if you have a phone
Starting point is 00:41:14 if you have a full volume phone conversation during that part of the movie. You just want to I think we can start being rude to AMC and Nicole Kidman. Tracy, it's the Nicole Kidman pot to AMC and Nicole Kidman. Tracy, it's the Nicole Kidman pot. It's the Nicole Kidman pot. It's my favorite pot.
Starting point is 00:41:29 Oh my god. Okay, but I'll see you after the movie, right? Okay, okay, I gotta go. It's bootleg movies just of that part. That's what I'm downloading on the Pirate Bay. They're rolling out, the program they're rolling out is called sightline. They're doing it in New York,
Starting point is 00:41:47 Chicago and Kansas city. It's such fucking bullshit. It feels like the, like the three cities that existed in like the 1800s. Those were like the three Americas. Hot damn Kansas city. I'm going to Kansas city, ma,
Starting point is 00:42:02 but to eat a t-bone steak uh but it will be expanded to all domestic amc locations by the end of the year and it's gonna have so we're talking three different seat pricing choices only after 4 p.m and not on tuesdays so don't worry all you tuesday movie movie goers no no word on how the full moon affects things but standard sight line the seats that are the most common in auditorium and value sight line basically the front row like the ones that are like you you can't watch it you can't really watch the movie without thinking about what you're doing and be like, I think his jaw just looks really big because that part of the screen is so much closer to me than the top.
Starting point is 00:42:52 And, but then there's preferred sight line, which means seats in the middle where you can see everything almost like you're sitting at home watching it on TV. Oh, the thing that they're trying to compete with oh jackie said the magic word also in my humble opinion like there is a price that you pay comfort wise by choosing a seat with a better sight line because movies these days sometimes it's packed theater and wherever you're
Starting point is 00:43:17 sitting is like you're sitting next to somebody but you are choosing to be close to another person who may or may not respect your personal space may or may not be very noisily chewing on something or like unwrapping their bag for five minutes in the middle of us watching avatar the person who sat next to me during avatar but like you are paying a price by being in one of those better sightline seats anyway so the fact that you have to pay more to maybe have less comfort when you're watching the movie, just because supposedly your sight line is going to be better to a huge 30 foot screen is bonkers to me. That is complete ludicrous ludicrous ludicity is ludicrous.
Starting point is 00:43:52 Anyway, ludicrosity ludicrosity. Thank you. Thank you. The wild part to me is that they're just openly admitting some of these seats are going to suck. We are charging you $ 14 for a seat that might suck ass that's and honestly if it doesn't take off and if people are like no we're not going to
Starting point is 00:44:12 this and they can't sell out this they're going to make those seats suck more yeah the the fact that they've named the program sight line which is like the thing that, that just means like I have a unobstructed line of sight, like the most basic thing that you can ask for in any, you know, consuming of an event or a piece of media, a sight line. And they're like, yeah, that's we're, we're taking it real bare bones here. We'll give you a line of sight maybe if you pay extra yeah ridiculous yeah preferred
Starting point is 00:44:51 sight line all of a sudden you're gonna be like why does every single seat in the front row now also have a pole in front of it yeah right why was this necessary why do I have to look around this already shitty seat that
Starting point is 00:45:08 y'all sold me? The sombrero row and then they're discounted behind the sombrero row. That's really funny. Maggie, as always, such a pleasure having you on The Daily Zeitgeist. Where can people find you, follow you, all that good stuff?
Starting point is 00:45:26 I'm on all the socials under Maggie Mayhaha, but May is spelled M-A-Y-E. Yeah, yeah. And is there a tweet, a work of media that you've been enjoying? I was reminded of this in a tweet. It's Jenna Friedman's show, Soft Focus. Someone posted a tweet where she just, and she does this to every idiot on her page, she just will barbecue them with their own words.
Starting point is 00:45:57 And it's just a big, some people out there are scared, they don't even know what they're scared of. And some people out there are scared they don't even know what they're scared of and some people are out there are hateful and scared and they're not even using logic as their northern star they're just out there spreading all kind of hate and so she just like very calmly and very logically you know unwraps it for them that they're kind of also the problem and their heads just explode it's it's the best right soft focus soft focus there we go nice great show dj daniel goodman where can people find you is there a work of media you've been enjoying always baby um my name is dj daniel you can find
Starting point is 00:46:41 me on twitter instagram twitch tiktok regrettably at dj underscore daniel d-a-n-l look we got to make this micro content somehow and put it out so lord knows i will be posting it on the chinese spyware that is tiktok for everybody to view one time and then never comment on or interact with further and i do have a piece of content that i like from podcast legend dana schwartz yeah chris martin it's is it the same one same one yeah it is a picture of chris martin from the granny grammys and it says chris martin looks like a toddler named writer at a preschool that costs fifty thousand dollars a year and it's him he's wearing a sweater with a very looks just like a very poorly
Starting point is 00:47:28 it's a child's drawing of the planet earth a moon and he's wearing just way too big of a beanie for his enlarged you know baby cranium yeah that is just way too big and um he just looks like a very small sweet little child yes who yeah who has delicate sensibilities because delicate baby goes to the delicate baby skin because he goes to the the best school a waldorf school where they the i think like waldorf schools the the toys like aren't allowed to have colors there's one of the schools where the toys are wooden and not allowed to have colors have you what there's one of the schools where the toys are wooden and not allowed to have colors i swear to god i'm a boy fifty thousand dollars a year to work yeah exactly unpainted yeah oh my god anyway that's the real toys the dirt in our fields. That's, yep. Yeah. Horrible.
Starting point is 00:48:26 Julia Clare at OhJuliaTweets tweeted an image that I'm pretty sure is a real meme from Turning Point USA. And it's an angry, you know, Gen Z millennial slash, you know, young man who's making a face like he smelled something bad or something or is mad and not a great actor. And he's saying, my rent went up again. We need to raise taxes on those greedy capitalist landlords. And then there's a pretty girl down in the second half of the meme. And she's saying, maybe if you let them keep more of their money, they could afford to let you keep more of yours oh my god julia clare folks i am laughing it's just a very interesting point of view perspective on how capitalism works that you just need to let the rich people keep more of their money. That will make them less greedy and more nice to you. Did a real person tweet that?
Starting point is 00:49:31 Yeah, yeah. Unfortunately. Turning Point USA is like a, it's a movement that's like funded by the Kochs. Like they picked this kid, Charlie Kirk, out of obscurity. And we're like, here is a young person who seems to actually like believe conservative things we will fund his career to the tune of like millions of dollars a year and oh shoot do they do a work from home option you really might want to look at it but the turning point usa is like their his institution where it's like we memefy all the sick like edgelord right-wing takes that
Starting point is 00:50:08 other people aren't willing to do and yeah it's bad it's just bad bad world it's very bad yeah bad world i'm gonna go rage look this up yeah turning point usa yeah all those like daily wire and like all those all those right-wing places are funded by billionaires. Like they are not in and of themselves profitable and they're not funded by people who are like, one day they will be profitable. They're funded by people for the same reasons
Starting point is 00:50:39 that like the government and dictatorships fund propaganda because they want to get the content of those ideas out there. And there's no other way for them to do it other than to create propaganda on their own behalf. Anyways, you can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. You can find us on Twitter
Starting point is 00:51:00 at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, dailyzeitgeist.com, where The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, DailyZeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes. Footnotes. We link off the information that we talked about in today's episode as well,
Starting point is 00:51:14 as well as Maggie's Venmo, as well as a song that we think you might enjoy. Super producer, Daniel, do you have a song that you would like to recommend? Yeah, I could pop one off real fast. So there is an artist named John Casey who I've been digging a whole lot. He just did an edit of a song called Yum by another artist named Hamdi. It's on Spotify, wherever you listen to music.
Starting point is 00:51:39 Search Yum, Y-U-M, the John Casey edit. John Casey spelled J-O-N space C-A-S-E-Y. John Casey, absolutely incredible artist. Fantastic beats. It's also one of those songs that it's like the buildup sounds heavier than it is. But then you get to the chorus, the drop, whatever you want to call it. And you are just grooving. So I hope you enjoy Yum, the John Casey edit.
Starting point is 00:52:03 I love their brands. Yum brands? Love Yum brands. Yeah. Some of our greatest, you enjoy. Yum. The John Casey edit. I love their brands. Yum brands. Love Yum brands. Yeah. Some of our greatest, you know, KFC, Pizza Hut, Taco Bell. The Habit. I didn't know that they owned The Habit, but now they own Hamburger Habit. That changes everything.
Starting point is 00:52:19 We're actually going to have to rerecord this episode with that piece of information in mind. I wasn't ready for that one. Yeah. All right. Well, The Daily Zeitgeist is a production of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app at Apple Podcasts or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. That is going to do it for us this morning.
Starting point is 00:52:36 Back this afternoon to tell you what is trending and we will talk to y'all then. Bye. Bye. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and Shekinah Church. Listen to Forgive Me For I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app,
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Starting point is 00:53:49 I'm Carrie Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. Every great player needs a foil. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Listen to the making of a rivalry, Caitlin
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