The Daily Zeitgeist - True Crime Snags Golden State Killer? Alexa, Raise My Kids 4.27.18
Episode Date: April 27, 2018In episode 136, Jack & Miles are joined by writer Robert Evans to discuss the Golden State Killer and how he was caught, a check in with the Bill Cosby guilty verdict, the peace talks between Nort...h Korea and South Korea, bloidwatch (the Clintons are drug dealers - who knew??), using the Alexa Echo as a nanny for your children, the house chaplain of the GOP being pushed out for being an actual good person, & more! Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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and journalist and hilarious comedy writer, Mr. Robert Evans.
Hey.
Yes, that was amazing.
A.K.A. Robert Evans.
Yeah, A.K.A. not the Robert Evans that everyone actually knows.
That was a poor Google-based decision.
I remember the first time someone had mentioned you,
I thought I was like the producer.
I think it's just unfortunate, you know, because you are very different.
You're very unique.
And you should have your own.
Yeah.
I produced Godfather 2, which is a very different.
Some say superior film.
Right.
Yeah.
And then, yeah, they don't know the documentary is coming out with you.
The Kid Stays in the Podcast.
Yes.
Yes.
Yes.
Robert, you.
Cool reference.
Solid.
For no one.
I look as I look around.
Lost eyes.
No, no, no, I got it.
Documentary now just did a spoof of The Kid Stays in the Picture.
That was pretty funny.
Thank you.
But yeah, that's a very good documentary.
Robert, you have a podcast coming out.
I sure do.
On this very network called Behind the Bastards.
But before we were working on this podcast together, you worked with me at Cracked.
You spearheaded new types of media at Cracked.
You created the personal experience section.
You went on actual overseas journalism trips, as they're called in the industry, by real journalists, probably.
Probably.
You went to Iraq.
Mm-hmm.
What was that like?
It was nice.
Cool.
Really good food.
Good weather, good food, you know?
Well, the weather was kind of garbage.
Yeah.
I'm gonna be honest.
Yeah.
Hung out with some Kurds,
shot giant anti-aircraft guns
on the back of Jeeps.
It was an anti-tank, anti-building gun too. It was like a
giant recoilless rifle. But like you see them shoot, like I've watched a bunch of people shoot
a bunch of rockets at this point. I don't think I've ever seen someone fire a rocket launcher and
not have a little bit of a smile on their face. Right. Like you can tell they're always really
digging it. Enjoying themselves. Yeah. Kurds are sort of the Appalachian folk of the Iraq conflict, right?
Like they're kind of like scrappy and can rig together a...
Yeah, that would be one comparison to make.
They live up in the mountains.
Everybody's constantly fucking with them, both in like Iraq and in Turkey and in Iran.
Right.
Like basically for the last like thousand-ish years have been fighting everybody who lives around them and like hiding in the mountains a bunch.
But they're nice.
They're great at cooking.
They're cool guys.
Yeah.
So half like Appalachian people.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I won't say which half it is.
I love my Appalachians.
Cool, man.
Behind the Bastards.
We'll talk about it at the end of the show.
But just real quick, up top, we're really excited about having it on.
What's the basic premise of the show?
Everything you don't know about the worst people in all of history.
So like we're talking about Saddam Hussein, but we're talking about his career as a romance novelist.
And I read his bizarre novels and review them for the crowd.
Like a very self-serious romance novelist.
Yeah.
Like he thought this was going to be what he was remembered for.
This was his. He considered himself a writer before he was president of Iraq.
Like that was his main goal.
Yeah.
Was to be known as a serious author.
Right.
Yeah.
And we recorded episode zero, which is out now that people can go listen to about Hitler's
long held struggles with farting.
Yes. And that's not a joke.
No.
No.
And also the fact that you see all these guys
on the far right, the alt-right now,
who look ridiculous in there.
The internet nerds who wear fedoras out in the world
like it's 1940 and they have leather trench coats.
Hitler dressed the same way.
Right.
He always had a fedora.
He always had a big leather coat, leather shorts.
Everybody thought he looked like a weirdo. Leather shorts? Leather shorts. Oh, I bet. He loved his same way. Right. Like he always had a fedora. He always had a big leather coat, leather shorts. Everybody thought he looked like a weirdo.
Leather shorts?
Leather shorts.
Oh, got it.
He loved his leather shorts.
That's a decision.
That's a choice.
And he carried a whip everywhere.
Ooh.
Yeah.
Zam zaddy.
Yeah.
I could walk around with his leather outfit and a whip.
Okay.
I feel like you could rock a leather outfit and a whip, Miles.
I could walk.
Yeah, I could definitely rock the leather shorts for sure.
I mean, I have leather shorts.
I have leather shorts.
You have leather shorts?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
They're real short.
They better be.
Nice, nice.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
I'm hanging out
the back of them
a little bit,
but you know.
Gross.
Hey, look,
you know,
you gotta be proud.
You gotta work
with what you got.
That's a direct Hitler quote.
Yeah, exactly.
I'm guessing
you haven't worn those in front of your mom
or else she'd tell you
no she made them for me
and then she was like fine
it's your decision to look foolish like this with your legs
but I guess I will knit this together
and also you have
a early episode
of Behind the Bastards about Hitler
the fanboy
yeah he was a big fan of this weirdo
Wild West novelist called Carl May
and based a lot of his strategy in World War II
off of these Wild West books written by a con man.
I was comparing Hitler to Kanye and Donald Trump.
We won't have a whole section about their love-in
that's been happening,
but my main point was that Hitler was a narcissist, right?
Oh, for sure.
I mean, yeah.
I don't think anybody could say.
And I think part of the Hitler story
and the story with a lot of these dictators
is that there's nothing more dangerous
than a frustrated artist.
It's a good thing that Kanye's seen success as a musician
because otherwise he would be leading a revolution
or something.
Or just a better dressed diamond in silk.
Right.
As my voice cracks.
I think I assume everybody knows about his narcissism,
but there's some great pictures of him like behind the scenes,
like posing in front of like mirrors and stuff,
like doing different facial expressions from his speeches.
And he was just, he was super into himself and his image and
stuff and the reason he didn't get married until like right before he died is he thought it was
super important that the women of germany see him as available because he thought that his sex appeal
to the women of germany was a critical part of his popularity like he just he couldn't he couldn't
risk alienating women by getting married it's, this is a mustache ride they can't refuse. Exactly.
They've got to know that Hitler's open for business.
The DMs are open, ma.
All right, Robert, what is something from your search history that is revealing about who you are?
I've been looking up a lot of Ragnar Benson books lately.
So I've been reading Man Trapping and Man Trapping 2.
And I've just been trying to find out as much as I can about this guy.
He's this nut who writes books about how to trap people.
trying to find out as much as I can about this guy.
He's this nut who writes books about how to trap people.
He's got a whole book that just lists how all of the different U.S. military armored vehicles drive and how to disable their drive sections with homemade equipment and stuff.
Wow.
This is why I love having you on, Robert.
Everybody's like, I Googled how to get rid of a wart or something.
Okay, this guy, he's creating the new manual to fight the government.
Oh, he wrote it like a decade or so.
He still writes stuff, but he keeps-
He's American?
Yeah, probably.
He says he lives in America.
Ragnar Benson's a pseudonym.
No one knows his real name.
This is what I've been looking up online is trying to find out about this guy.
Who is this?
Right, right.
Because from what I can understand, you'd expect maybe it's all lies. But, like, a lot of his books wind up in, like, military libraries because he's, like, he says his book Man Trapping was based on interviews he conducted in, like, Southeast Asia with, like, Vietnamese insurgents and stuff.
So it's not, like, nonsense.
He's getting, like, the holistic view of man trapping.
Yeah.
If you want to trap a man, Man Trapping is a great book.
Yeah.
He has two books on how to make homemade C4.
Well, Jesus.
What are you...
Is this shit?
He didn't capture it in the first one.
No, he didn't capture Mantrapping in the first one.
He's like...
Hardcore Poaching is one of his books.
Not the bullshit sissy poaching.
No, right.
You'll get in the other poaching books.
Mm-mm.
Ragnar Benschen's gonna teach you the serious ass poaching.
Mantrapping. That sounds like
aggressive pickup artist book. Man trapping
and man trapping too. Man trapping too.
Electric boogaloo. But I love
the complete lack of
metaphor here. Man trapping is about
how to physically trap men.
This is not... Yeah, you see that on the
bookshelves, you're like, huh, I wonder
that must be like a book about argument
techniques. Nope. No.
No, this is about how to
dig a hole and cover it up with leaves
style man trapping.
Are these books just available on the internet?
You can find places to download them
through torrent sites sometimes. You can also
buy them all. It's not illegal to buy
these things, although I'm 100% certain
if I wasn't on a watch list before
all of my Bensoning has gotten me on the map.
I'm sure just Googling it, it's like, what, what, what, what, what.
Yeah, yeah.
No, Googling your name actually will get people on a watch list.
Yeah, by the way, we're talking about Ragnar Benson and how mysterious it is that that's not his real name.
Robert Evans isn't your real name, which I learned like five years after hiring you at Cracked.
That is accurate.
Yeah, and we just won't go into it any more than that.
Wow, that's tight.
Yeah, Robert is...
Well, my name is Miles Gray.
Yeah.
So I'm boring.
No, I know.
We had a lot of background checks done on you, man.
Yeah, well, thank you, I guess.
Robert, what is something that is overrated?
Oh, yeah, I think fucking bombing is overrated.
Bombing?
Yeah, bombing.
Like on stage? No on stage no no no like
like what the military does like we've done it every time we've had a conflict it's never won
us a war like we bombed vietnam more than we bombed all of europe in world war ii didn't work
like bombing didn't stop north korea bombing didn't work in fucking iraq it hasn't worked
in afghanistan like it never works but we're always like, well, we've got a problem.
We better drop bombs on people.
Right, yeah.
But it's the humane way to fight a war, right?
It's the lazy way to fight a war.
I do feel like because of the outcry against chemical weapons that we've heard and completely
justified, there's been this complete skipping over of the fact that when you bomb someone,
people die horribly.
Pretty violently as well, yeah.
Yeah, I've got friends who are in Mosul right now who are going with volunteer teams
just digging up the houses that we bombed over the fighting with ISIS,
and they're just all filled with dead people.
Yeah.
Because that's what bombs do.
And it's like,
everybody's,
like,
chemical weapons are terrible,
but, like,
if you look at how most people have died in the Syrian conflict,
it's perfectly conventional
legal explosives.
Yeah.
And yet, you know.
And I also think
movies have misled us
in terms of what
explosions do,
because in movies,
you can actually, like,
surf on an explosion. Yeah. Like, an like an explosion will like push you across the room like a shockwave gust of wind like that shockwave doesn't just
like push you over like a gust of wind it actually will like it's called full body rupturing or
something all your organs yeah it bursts all your organs it just like will shred your skin it doesn't just make you like there's that uh mission impossible 3 trailer where he like a shockwave from an
explosion hits him and he like surfs it over like a gap in a bridge or something yeah and then like
keeps running because he's tom cruise and like he just would have like started bleeding from all his
pores and turned into a pile of human pudding yeah Yeah, it's not that, yeah. The explosion isn't to be used like an air ramp
in MTV Beach Blast.
Exactly.
It will fucking destroy your body.
But yeah, I think that there's part of us,
because we almost never see somebody die from an explosion
in movies, explosions are just a way to make a wall come down
for the most part, that when, when we hear that, like,
we're dropping bombs on places,
we don't realize, like, yeah, no,
people's skin is turning black and, you know,
their blood is boiling in their skull
and just horrible shit is happening.
I think the most accurate depiction
of how most Americans view, like, bombing is,
the scene isn't bombing, it's that scene in Team America
where one of the, the lady with the chain gun walks into that bar filled with bad guys
and also women and children and just fires randomly and only hits the bad guys.
Right, right, right.
Like, yeah, it's, but you actually like, I've watched the US bomb a city and it's just like,
oh, we're just dropping explosives on a town.
Like, they're not just hitting bad guys.
It's just like, oh, you're just dropping them everywhere.
You were in a town that that was happening on?
Yeah, I was in Mosul.
I was watching and I was watching US planes drop airstrikes like a quarter of a mile away,
like standing on top of a building, watching other parts of the town explode and then walking
through them later that day.
And it's just like, yeah, it's just random almost.
Like it's, I'm sure that they had a target they were going for, but it doesn't look targeted
when you're actually there. I think people still cling to that idea of the smart bombs,
including our president, who was like, believe me, these bombs are coming and they're so smart.
They're so smart. They scored a 1600 on the old SAT.
Yeah. They're smart in the same way that my GPS is when it refuses to route me off the 405,
even though it's a parking lot in the middle of the day.
Yeah.
California, dude.
The 405.
But we thought back during the first war in Iraq that you could, I think a defense department
official was like, oh, we could deliver this missile through a window.
That's the really evocative thing he said.
Like, we can, like, choose a window in a building to deliver this missile through.
And I think that just stuck with people.
They were like, yeah, we've got these smart weapons now.
Nobody has to die that doesn't have to.
And it's like, no, that's not how it works actually anymore.
No, and none of this stuff works as well as the movie show.
Like, night vision goggles, like, everyone thinks that there are there are like heat sensing. Everyone thinks that it's like this
allows for super precision work. I have a friend who got shot in the leg by Americans. He was an
American soldier who got shot in the leg by his own guys because they panicked and they were using
a heat sensing scope and they were like, there's guys in that building. Fire. Really? Yeah. And
they just didn't like, there was a fuck up on the radio over like where people
were supposed to be.
Wait, our body heat looks like their body heat?
Yeah, weird right?
I thought we would have like different body heat.
Red, white, and blue?
Stars?
Right.
What's something you think is underrated?
So my underrated thing I think is, and this is exclusively for men, but it's getting punched
in the face.
Finally.
Getting hit in the face. I feel like every time I watch someone like Ben Shapiro on TV,
I'm like, that's a man who's never been punched in the face.
Yeah, you learn a lot about yourself.
Yeah, not permanent damage, just like someone else.
I feel the same thing about the Trump boys.
That's never happened to them.
Nobody's ever like, even if they've been,
I'm sure those guys have done MMA classes,
but nobody's, they're probably getting paid $20,000 a session to not hurt them.
I think that means like assaulting a really drunk guy from behind at a party.
Right.
Yeah.
No, I feel like there's a lot of overconfident guys out there who have really just one hit in the face would widen their world.
And will also make you very aware that, you know, people can put their hands on you.
Yeah.
And what that's like.
And you might also have a little more empathy.
Yeah.
To know what that is like.
Yeah.
To be assaulted, to be manhandled, to be, yeah, it's...
To face sudden pain and not really be able to do anything about it.
To be just a little disoriented and helpless for a minute.
It's good.
God, I love that video of Ben Shapiro sitting next to the trans journalist
who just like, stop it, little boy.
And it makes him so scared.
Yeah, and he has been whining about it for years ever since.
Wait, what video is this?
He's like, you're not a woman.
You're a man.
Look at you, like to a trans woman.
And the trans woman is a journalist who also has like a military background and could
like literally fuck ben shapiro shake him right the fuck up and ben shapiro's just like talks a
big game and it's just like yeah you're you're not shit like i don't oh wow and then just knowing
that physiologically and then like the trans woman just like leans in to him and is like
just stop it right now.
You don't want to go down this path, essentially.
It's just, it is some real shit.
I read a column of his, and I think the column came from 2008 or 2009, where he's talking about,
I don't see why we care so much about civilian casualties in Afghanistan.
I don't care how many civilians die there if it prevents one American from dying.
It's worth it.
And I was like, yeah, Ben Shapiro should be punched in the face.
You don't understand the value of life at all., Ben Shapiro should be punched in the face. Yeah. Like, you should...
You don't have...
You don't understand the value of life at all.
Yeah, yeah.
So someone should hit you in the face.
Just a little bit.
Yeah.
Underrated.
I think the most pain he's been in is, like,
biting into a Hot Pocket too early
after bringing it out of the microwave.
And that's a pain he suffers every morning.
It burned the top of my mouth.
I'm going to complain about fucking liberals.
I'm going to complain about the fucking Sharia law and shit.
What is something you think is a myth?
What's something people think is true that you know to be false?
Oh, yeah, that raw meat's dangerous.
Uh-oh.
Yep.
Love raw meat.
Here we go.
Eat raw meat.
Yeah, eat raw meat.
Don't wash your hands after using it.
It'll make you stronger.
Yeah.
Salmonella is a lie.
Every night, this is my beauty secret, and I'm about to unveil it. It'll make you stronger. Yeah. Yeah. Salmonella is a lie. Every night, this is my beauty secret
and I'm about to unveil it.
Every night I like to go to bed,
I put a nice cold raw chicken cutlet
over my eyes
and I go to sleep
and that's how I stay youthful.
And no bags.
I'm seeing no bags under those eyes.
Just a lot of weird sort of pussy things.
Yeah, yeah.
But I call those beauty marks.
Yeah.
I feel like that's unrelated to the raw meat.
But yeah, I mean like in Japan,
like you know,
there's a lot of raw meat being eaten but it's like thin slices. It's like the kind of beef that you unrelated to the raw meat. But yeah, I mean, like in Japan, like, you know, there's a lot of raw meat being eaten,
but it's like thin slices.
It's like the kind of beef that you can't eat raw.
Like a carpaccio and shit like that.
I'm not saying go.
You shouldn't go to a cafe and be like, yeah, I want it medium rare.
Medium rare.
Yeah.
I don't know if I can co-sign this myth necessarily, but okay.
Why?
You've never, you don't eat a carpaccio?
You wouldn't eat a carpaccio? You wouldn't eat a carpaccio?
No, I've had carpaccio.
And I eat my steak medium rare.
I'm okay with that.
But Robert, what are you-
Very select circumstances.
I'm saying freaking out over raw meat is cowardice.
Because there are people who like, I know people who-
Oh no, you touched a chicken.
Let's fucking deal with it.
Yeah.
Or people who like, they say like, oh, I love steak.
And they get it so well done.
And you're like, what are you doing?
Or if they see a thing, they're like, oh, there's blood in here.
It's like, that's not blood.
Did you think you weren't eating an animal?
Yeah, exactly.
I want it to be gray and colorless.
Right.
All right, we're going to get into the stories of the day.
We're trying to take a sample of the global or national shared consciousness,
what people are thinking and talking about right now at the moment we record it.
And in the past couple of days, the Sacramento Police Department, I believe, has captured the Golden State Killer.
Now, who is that?
a cold case, but it was one that we had actually written about on Cracked a couple years, many years back, because it was just really some of the creepiest crimes ever.
First, the person started out as known as the East Area Ransacker or the something Ransacker.
He would go into people's homes and steal photographs of them.
And just when he was caught, he like would start crying in this like really high
pitched voice.
And then.
And then like run off.
Yeah.
And then basically run off.
But like just like really weird, like almost like an alien behavior.
But then he would like call people and be like, I'm going to kill you.
Whose houses he had like broken into and like this really creepy voice then somebody started like raping all these people and they started like
thinking it was the same person because of like a couple pieces of evidence connecting them and
then the person started murdering people and the way he would do it is he would like watch them
observe them for like weeks get their schedule down,
hide in their house until they were asleep,
and then come out with a flashlight and rape the women and occasionally kill both the women and the men.
And just really, really creepy shit.
Wow.
Would just gain access to people's homes.
And this was like in the 70s and 80s?
This was late 70s, early 80s. Yeah. And then it just stopped and nobody really figured anything
out. And then Patton Oswalt's wife, the crime writer, Michelle McNamara, who passed away in,
I believe, 2016, tragically and unexpectedly. She died in her sleep of, I think, an undiagnosed heart
thing. And, you know, she had a bunch of prescription medication in her blood that
might have contributed. But overall, you know, it was just a weird freak thing. But she basically
became obsessed with this story. And she was a really great writer and started writing about it and got a book deal
and uh you know started writing this book called i'll be gone in the darkness uh about this case
and prior to her writing about it people hadn't really publicized it there was like a single
unsolved mysteries episode about it uh but like they hadn hadn't even connected all the different details of it.
And she was the first person to name
him the Golden State Killer.
Prior to that, they had some weird acronym
like EAR or something.
East Area.
Ransacker. Yeah, yeah. It was like nobody
paid attention to it until she
started getting people interested in it.
So her book, she died
before finishing the book.
Patton Oswalt got a couple of her best friends
who are also crime journalists to finish the book for her.
And it went directly to number one
on the New York Times bestseller list
just like in the past month.
And like they were on a book tour for it.
And that's when Sacramento police solved the case.
So-
Great marketing.
Sacramento police are saying she had nothing to do with it.
Yeah.
But they're saying this at a press conference where they're calling him the Golden State Killer, which was like her term.
Her thing, right.
Wait, so is it conceivable that her book actually did put things together?
Or this was like an investigation that was really happening for a while.
I think it's conceivable and probably the actual truth that they were not pursuing the case in a meaningful way until she added,
like, yeah, made it famous again. So I think that's exactly right. There are 15,000 murders
in the United States every year, and one third of them go unsolved. So that's just like a huge
number of unsolved murders that are piling up.
And, you know, they just hadn't looked into this enough, basically.
And once somebody started looking into it and it became a New York Times bestseller or they knew a book at least was coming out about it, that becomes a top priority because you don't want to get fucking embarrassed.
Right. And then the book's like, I know who it is.
And the police are like, oh, OK.
I'm going to get a little conspiracy theory-ish on here, too.
Oh, here we go, here we go.
Because this guy, the Golden State Killer that they've arrested, was a former cop.
Right.
And so you have to think, if they didn't know exactly who it was, there were probably some signs that this guy might have been a cop.
Right.
And so maybe they figured, well, he's old, it'll be bad PR if we pursue this thread.
So maybe before the book came out maybe
they weren't trying all that hard right they were just like you know we always had a suspicion that
this guy was weird and the reason he left the police force was because he got caught shoplifting
dog repellent and hammers which one of the key ways the guy killed people was hammers and the
thing they could never figure out is how he would get past dogs and the way he would actually do it is he would just like lay in
people's yards and like get friendly with the dogs and like but sometimes he would have to
like spray the dog repellent to like keep the dogs from freaking out about him so he got caught
shoplifting and the police were like okay well we'll just like do a trial like a quick thing
this won't be like that big a deal for you.
And he was like, rather than that, I'm just going to quit, which was like really weird.
They were like, why would he just quit if he.
OK, Sergeant Stabsy.
Right. Just like super, you know, suspicious behavior that they just didn't look into.
This also happened with a crime podcast, Up and Vanished, where they started looking into this cold case.
I listened to, I think, the first eight episodes of that
and was certain I knew who had done it.
And that turned out to not be who had done it at all,
but they did solve it as this podcast was becoming popular.
And I think it's exactly what Robert said.
It's that once this becomes a big story,
it just moves that to the top of your
pile of shit to worry about um yeah it was funny because people were like how did you not know
about this like you lived in california i'm like the early 80s i was in the process of being born
right okay so i didn't know and also like i'm not like a huge true crime person but it seemed like
it was really big recently with a lot of people who are my favorite murder into true crime yeah yeah i went back to the my favorite murder archives to like find the
golden state killer episode that like i knew they had done an episode about it and assumed it was
like a year ago it was like three weeks ago they had done it and then they caught the guy but yeah
so the way they caught him is actually really interesting they caught him because people in his family had sent away their DNA to those DNA database
places.
23andMe and stuff.
Yeah, it wasn't 23andMe.
It was a different one and not one of the well-known ones.
I've never heard of it.
We don't need to plug them because they're not sponsored anyway.
Yeah, but they could.
They could.
But it wasn't one of those good ones.
It was some bad one. But anyway, so they were able to basically look at this cluster of people and be like,
OK, because they had his DNA from all the rapes he had committed, they were like, OK,
the Golden State Killer is in this family.
Oh, shit.
And then just by a process of elimination, we're able to be like, OK, this dude didn't
live in Sacramento at that time.
This person,
you know,
right.
Too young or shoplifting,
dog repelling hammers.
And then,
so after like doing all the process of elimination,
they thought it was this guy.
They went and like staked out his house,
basically did what he did to those families,
uh,
to his victims.
They like staked out his house basically did what he did to those families uh to his victims they like
staked out his house and then like when he put down a lollipop or like a fucking cigarette or
something like snuck up got it and took his dna and it was a 100 match fuck yeah fine police work
yeah exactly take them away toys i would like to see them just be honest and be like, yeah, it made us want to solve the case more.
Her book.
She definitely called out a bunch of suspects that didn't end up being the people who did it.
But that's like a valuable part of catching the guy.
Right.
It's chasing leads that don't go anywhere.
Right.
That helps.
And like, I think Patton Oswalt's right.
Cops are never going to give a journalist credit for anything.
No.
Especially when they're trying to sort of distract from the fact that, yeah, we caught this bad guy. He was
also a cop. Yeah, exactly. I haven't read the book. I've read passages of it. And she's a
fucking great writer. Oh, she wrote an article about it. Yeah. But it's beautifully written.
She is an amazing writer. She's very gifted. So worth checking out. All right. We're gonna
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And it is time to talk about Bill Cosby.
Love that guy.
What's he been up to?
So, yeah, the Cosby verdict came in.
He is...
Guilty AF.
Guilty as fuck.
This has really hurt my pet theory
that he was the Golden State Killer.
Oh, wow.
Shit.
He...
I don't know.
This isn't surprising to, I think, anyone in this room
that he was guilty.
No, no. not at all.
When 30-something people come forward with basically the same allegation.
But I do think there's a weird generational thing and sort of a changing of the guard story here.
Because he got away with doing this and with there being accusations that he was doing this for years.
I think when in the 90s, going into the early aughts, when the world was still run by a
generation of people who knew him as America's dad and the jello guy, and maybe most importantly
for white Americans during the 80s, the successful black guy who proved that systemic racism isn't a thing
and that people just need to pull themselves up by their bootstraps.
You shouldn't curse in your stand-up act.
Right.
As long as you're just clean and nice, everything's going to be all right.
Nice and respectable.
Right.
And this was actually Hannibal Buress kind of brought these allegations
back to the mainstream mindset in a stand-up act where he was talking about the hypocrisy of Bill Cosby, yelling at everybody to pull up their pants and be respectable and not use swear words when he's been accused of rape by 30 people.
And that started, along with a Gawker article, started people
talking about this again. But yeah, I just feel like there was this sort of myth that American
culture really wanted to believe in the 80s, that racism was over, that the Cosby Show helped them
believe in, and Bill Cosby helped them believe in and so you know they just
didn't want to let go of that and like well into the aughts there were like
these things called Q ratings where they showed you how the public felt about
celebrities and I think like Jordan was still like years after he had retired
still rated in like the 30s Cosby was rated in the 20s, and, like, nobody else was over 15
in terms of, like, how trusted they were as a public persona.
So it was, like, they're the two most trusted, most beloved figures,
like, still years after their career had been, like, super relevant.
But I feel like we've moved on from that,
both in a racial standpoint and also from like a, you know, I think the Me Too movement has actually made some progress.
Yeah.
Well, and clearly, like you say, generationally, like I think Hannibal Buress, like we're of that age, too, that we can look at shit like without the like, I guess the rose tinted lenses of nostalgia and kind of be like, yo, this is also some dark shit that happened.
We don't have to just dance around it or whatever.
Yeah.
It's weird how like the generational divide before he got convicted was between like whether
or not people would believe the allegations.
Because to me, Cosby was like, I had vague memories of him selling pudding pops and wearing
a sweater in like Christmas commercials.
And so I was not like when I first heard that like, oh, people have accused him of rape.
Like I didn't have any reason not to believe it.
But my parents like love to show when it was on.
I had this big argument with my mom over like, like they're just trying to get something out of him.
I'm like, there's like 60 of them.
What are they trying to do?
Get all the wealth and riches that America like.
Right.
And that shows you the sort of perception of him for people was like, oh, could not do wrong he's the dr. Huxtable dr. Huxtable
yeah I think there's a similar generational thing with how seriously we
take sexual assault allegations yeah and I think the me too movement changed a
lot of the way that you know we talk about these things in public and the
ways we talk about sexual assault and other sort of
sexual misconduct in public. But the fact that, you know, we're finally bringing this guy to
justice is, I think, a good sign. Yeah. At least a good first step. And I guess at least that
defense of like, they're just trying to get something out of them is no longer, that's seen
as like a really improper thing to say when someone is accusing
somebody of this kind of thing. Yeah. I think one of the most helpful narratives is just that we
started hearing from victims who were like, look, this is the most painful thing for me to talk
about. I don't want to talk about this. I'm just doing it to help protect other people, basically.
So yeah, I think what he's looking at, up to 30 years.
Up to 30 years.
I mean, has there been a sentencing date yet, or that hasn't been set yet?
I don't think there has been.
I don't think they have set it yet.
Well, he's looking at 30 years.
Up to 30 years.
The judge hopefully is not too permissive.
He let Cosby call the district attorney an asshole in court yesterday,
so hopefully he gets a little stricter.
And that could show you some softness on the judge's part,
that generation thing.
He's like, but that's old Bill Cosby.
You know what I mean?
Like, yo, this dude, he's a fucking criminal.
Justice has to be served.
Yeah.
All right.
And we also wanted to talk about some changes,
some big changes happening on the Korean Peninsula.
Yeah. Well, for the first time in a very long time, Kim Jong-un crossed into South Korean territory for a peace summit.
And they were announcing, holding hands like, hey, we're going to work together to, quote, achieve complete denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula.
And, Rob, you're pointing out that there have been peace talks before,
but this is kind of significant because for the first time that he's crossing over to the South,
because for the longest time, as people know, the Korean Peninsula has been divided along the 38th
parallel. So that is a big move. It's like peace propaganda because like everything was so thought
out and everything is so symbolic. And it's very interesting to like sort of read about the details of just sort of how meticulously planned this summit was.
Like this is the most Korean thing in the world.
Like there are these descriptions of because of the importance of the talks, everything at the summit was like loaded with all this minute symbolism.
The negotiation table is 2018 millimeters commemorating the year of the meeting.
The legs of the table resemble two bridges merging with the South Korean government said was to help bridge the psychological distance.
The chairs were made of walnut because it isn't prone to bending or warping over time.
Which that one just sounds like maybe they got a good deal on some walnut chairs and
tried to bullshit in some weird metaphor.
Nah, nah, man.
Some walnut industry propaganda.
Yeah.
But yeah, and the meal, like South Korean president Moon Jae-in, he got a John Dory
fish to eat, which is a Southeastern fish, presumably voiced by Ellen DeGeneres.
But it was one of his childhood favorites.
And Kim Jong-un had a Swiss meal because he spent part of his childhood in Switzerland.
And there was this dessert that had the Korean Peninsula painted on it.
And it got Japan hot, though.
Yeah, it had some islands that Japan had been like hours on and uh that they weren't okay with it's a point
of contention who's claiming these islands or whatever right but yeah i mean obviously you know
symbolism is like a big important thing of how they communicate so i guess it culturally makes
sense because in america clearly we know what donald trump's plan is literally just be like
hey you comfortable fuck you and walk out right so I guess it's interesting to show that the North and South Korean leaders
are trying to maybe show that they also want to take these kinds of peace
talks into their own hands,
uh,
exclusive of the United States and other outside countries and being like,
yo,
this is our,
like,
we're going to figure this out too,
that they're trying to hop in the driver's seat,
which could be interesting.
But yeah,
again,
this isn't the first time this thing has happened.
So we can't necessarily just throw up the balloons and say like, oh, here we go.
It's completely denuclearized.
But, you know, at least we're seeing something.
So North Korea first promised to denuclearize in 1994.
Right.
They promised again in 2005 to give up their entire nuclear weapons program.
2006 is when they tested their first nuclear weapon successfully. So this
is like, they've got a long history of saying like, yeah, we're totally down for denuclearization.
And then look, look at our nuke. Something seems a little bit different now.
Yeah. But we'll see. Again, because yeah, there is a pattern of saying, yes, we will denuclearize.
And then it's not, there's not exactly the most tremendous follow through.
Yeah. I mean, it's tough to say whether the thing that seems different is actually a
substantive difference or if it's just,
we're coming off of our president taunting their president and their
president,
then taunting us back and being like,
you're rocket man.
We're going to bomb you.
And he's like,
they're going to die in the flames of our nuclear weapons and shit.
Like if it's just like such a contrast that it seems different,
but yeah,
I mean,
this is definitely something where Trump was out front being like,
yeah,
because we've had past administrations have been played like a fiddle and,
but they can't fuck with us anymore.
They know that.
And so they're kind of coming to the table,
which doesn't seem
like that's possibly what's going on but it does seem like something has changed possibly that it's
just like well now both sides know that america is not a leader in the region or it's not right
like they don't have america like as strong a force in the region and so they have to like solve shit themselves
which might not be great for America in the long run but it would be better than having a North
Korea with nuclear weapons for sure if in fact they are willing to you know disarm yeah I think
we even talked about last week about and it's even possible that the new thing is that we've introduced a leader who we do not know really what they think or are not consistent.
So that's kind of shaking things up, too, that Trump may just be a wild card, too.
I don't know, though.
But at the very least, I'd rather be hearing about them holding hands, walking around the demarcation line than aiming artillery at each other.
than aiming artillery at each other.
Yeah.
Super producer Nick Stumpf was pointing out that on NPR,
John Brennan, who's the ex-CIA director,
who fucking hates Donald Trump and uses some of the most colorful language
to describe how shitty of a leader he is,
he even pointed out that, hey, you know,
it is true to a certain extent that sort of this appeasement policy
that the U.S. or the West has been using with North Korea
hasn't really been effective.
So perhaps you
could point to the fact that Donald Trump's just insane fiery rhetoric is like at least a shift in
discourse that you may be able to say, okay, maybe this did change how North Koreans were looking at
things. Yeah, I do think that it's there's a risk. And this is something like that happens in every
corner of politics where they intersect the US of like., of focusing on what we did and being like, okay, well, Trump obviously gets credit for this because it happened while he was president.
It's like, well, no, the Koreans have been negotiating the entirety of the time since the war ended.
Right.
This is like a very long stand.
It's kind of like us being like, look at how important America is, even when a shithead's in charge.
Right. We caused this thing to happen it's like well no maybe this would have happened no matter who was president because they've been negotiating this for decades right
right right yeah it's similar to like when i think kim jong-un met with like xi in china i think he
was even like yeah see what i did right so i mean yeah there's definitely this uh tendency to want
to be able to be like he oh, I'll hide it regardless.
Yeah. And that's true. Like even how you say, Robert, that we even as like Americans from a foreign policy standpoint tend to think that everything is being completely run at every single moment by the United States when other people do exist in the world.
It's a big world.
Yeah, at the same time, America is a big and important power in the world.
And especially when it comes to relationship with Korea and North Korea.
Yeah, but we can't discredit that other people are also putting in work. Yeah, and I think it's a very specific way of looking at things to be like, well, they're scared of America.
And therefore, it could just be like, they're like, well, America doesn't really have the same cachet that it had before.
So now we can negotiate a little bit more freely.
Yeah.
Well, and also like why would they be more scared of Trump than they were of Bush when their nuclear program was still getting off the ground and Bush was invading countries left and right?
Right.
Like.
Yeah.
No, I don't totally buy that either, but I just don't know necessarily what is going
on in the Korean peninsula yet.
So I don't have a alternative explanation other than they probably read The Art of the
Deal and they were like, this guy's a genius.
We need to sit down with him and just learn.
We saw him in Home Alone 2.
Right.
And we realized we got a star on
our hands. I mean, there are sanctions, obviously, that North Korea has been being starved to death
for years and years and years. So there's always the possibility that they were just tired of
starving, which I would be. There are all sorts of different explanations for it. But, you know, if things are getting better for the world at large, then more power.
We'll take it.
We will take it.
Because we do not need that section of the world turning into a war zone.
All right.
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which means that it's time for Bloid Watch.
So the covers of the tabloids are overrun with stories about the royal baby.
Yeah, cool.
Another baby.
This one is like, what, fifth, sixth in line, something like that.
And its name is Louie.
Okay, good for you.
They said named after Louis C.K.
So timely.
Well done, guys.
That is a weird line for the royals to take.
I know.
I kind of like it, though, because when I think royal and I think Louis, I'm thinking
of the Sun King, the most diva-ish male monarch in history.
Shout out to Cardinal Richelieu.
Wearing some fucking high heels around the palace and just being like, bitch, yes.
Yeah, looking with those little calf socks and stuff.
See, I would support the existence of monarchies if they still dress that way.
Yeah, like, for sure.
You need that.
Just to be like, look, bro, you're a monarch.
But all the time.
Don't wear regular people clothes.
When that one prince is, like, flying helicopters in the British Army, he still has to be dressed that way.
Oh, yeah.
Like, scampering over to his helicopter in the little booty shorts and stuff.
Oh, man.
Yeah.
Yeah.
New rule.
Yeah.
This is Bill Maher.
Bounce, bounce, bounce, bounce, bounce, bounce, bounce. Yeah, everything really is, actually, they're on every cover. Yeah. New rule. Yeah. This is Bill Maher. Bounce, bounce, bounce, bounce, bounce, bounce.
Yeah.
Everything really is actually, they're on every cover.
Almost.
Not on my cover.
Over here at the National Enquirer, we are talking good American rag.
We are throwing Michael Cohen under the motherfucking bus.
So it's Trump's fixers, secrets and lies.
So this is kind of an amazing thing that I saw multiple places on the National Enquirer is
that they are so confident that their readership only watches Fox News, that they can break news
that is just like the very basic stories that we've all been paying attention to for like the
past six months. Like they're like, so Stormy Daniels is a porn star who Cohen paid a hundred.
Like they're just telling the story of Cohen's role in this.
Wacky Stormy Daniels.
Yeah.
And they also talk about his role in the dossier, like in the meeting that Cohen allegedly had with Russian officials in Prague.
So they're just basically throwing him under the bus.
So we always should start this section out acknowledging that most of these are published,
including the National Enquirer by American Media Inc., which is run by Trump's best friend,
a guy named David Peckar.
What a pecker.
Exactly.
named David Pecker.
What a pecker.
Exactly.
Yeah, so basically he can use all these tabloids to just help Trump's media narrative.
So in this case, it's like, oh, yeah, Cohen's a fuck-up,
and Trump really never fucked with him anyway,
so, yeah, whatever he did is a lie.
Right.
They also are breaking the news that Facebook and Google
know a lot about you,
and you should be concerned for your privacy.
So yeah, it's just-
Face what in Google?
Google clusters, your favorite treat.
It's just basically breaking the news that we've all known for years.
Yeah.
On the National Examiner, which again, I feel like we should just stop buying because it's
only news for people over 70.
It's just like the final brave days of Loretta Lynn or like Queen Demand, Charles Divorce,
Camilla, or Daughter Tells All, the Larry Hagman only I knew.
Who's Larry Hagman?
I do not know.
I mean, only that person knew it.
Larry Hagman.
Oh, he was JR.
Okay, in Dallas.
Oh, shit.
I thought so.
Okay, that makes sense because that's the only reason. My first thing was like, was he in Dallas? Because he has a cowboy hat in the image. Anyway, don was J.R. Okay, in Dallas. Oh, shit. I thought so. Okay, that makes sense because that's the only reason.
My first thing was like, was he in Dallas because he has a cowboy hat in the image?
Anyway, don't know, don't care.
Moving on.
Title should have been the J.R. from Dallas.
Yeah, exactly.
But I think if you're old, you know Larry Hagman.
So this next one, In Touch, obviously they're doing their coverage of The Little Prince,
but on the side they say, Jimmy Fallon, is this drinking out of control?
I hope so.
Almost definitely, if they're asking that question.
I think we can just assume it's not.
Yeah, and of course, they put a picture of him mid-blink, so it looks like he's all bleary-eyed.
Right.
And then when they look in there, basically all they're saying is someone saw him at a Yankee game drink two beers real quick, and that's what they're basing it off of.
So, I mean, they don't quite describe the pace at which he drank them.
Like, I get if you drink two big-ass baseball beers back-to-back real quick,
like one after the other, like you're downing them,
then I may be like, ooh, you're trying to get a buzz off those beers.
But if he's just having two beers at the game,
maybe sort of in a spirited way, I don't know if you can just say,
oh, man, his drinking is O-O-C.
But, man man they got
a great picture for it right yeah exactly which is him sipping a beer right so again yeah his his
license shambles uh and i think they point to the loss of his mother as a possible factor in that
uh and then what else they got on us weekly just more fucking weird shit to draw you in like
a first lady milania doing it her way.
So you're like, oh, okay, so maybe during all the cheating and all these other weird things, maybe she's doing something right.
It's just about her life.
There's nothing about doing it her way in any way.
Let's see.
The other tabloids, not very interesting.
A royal baby.
And then really what I like to point to is the globe, right? So you can always tell because
David Pecker is Donald Trump's best friend that like how crazy the cover stories are about the
Clintons typically shows you how bad a shape Trump is in the news. So a few weeks ago, they were like,
Hillary Clinton has a brain tumor and she's dying. This week, they got it. Clinton's caught in double murder investigation.
Holy shit.
Now, when you open this story, it is insane.
Because what they are trying to say is that apparently this guy who has a Little Rock radio show, this guy named Doc Washburn, had a former professional wrestler by the name of Billy Jack Haynes on his show.
And he said that then governor of Arkansas, Bill Clinton, recruited him, quote, as a muscle for a rogue CIA drug running operation and ordered the deaths of Kevin Ives, 17, and Don Henry, 16, after they accidentally stumbled upon it.
So I guess Bill Clinton was moving crazy weight, a lot of yayo from Columbia in Arkansas in the 80s.
Clearly, it's about the Clintons, right?
But the way they talk about it is always framed as about Hillary.
So even this thing is about Bill Clinton ordering these sort of murders.
They say last December, 30 years after the innocent kid's death,
Haynes revealed he was hired by a, quote, criminal politician to ensure nothing was stolen from an August cocaine shipment
that he was importing from Colombian drug king Pablo Escobar.
So now you got Escobar
in the Medellin cartel.
And then it follows
the quote criminal politician
Hanes swore to Washburn
was Hillary Clinton's husband.
Also known as Bill Clinton.
That's surprisingly woke though
because it's always like
whenever you've got like
a notable man and woman
who are married.
Sure, right.
A woman's his husband.
Yeah, yeah.
A crime novel written by Patton Oswalt's wife.
Yeah, I actually, I support their wokeness in that.
Hell yeah.
And then so what they do is even more shocking.
Haynes claimed Clinton gave the order to finish off the boys in a chilling cell phone call.
He goes, we can't leave no witnesses, Billy.
You know, got to get rid of uh can't leave no witnesses
haynes says and i heard hillary in the background saying the same thing you cannot leave any
witnesses so first of all 1987 how many motherfuckers has cell phones right like that
you know what i mean that's already like a weird technological thing and also the fact that he has
to add the added incriminating quote from hill off the phone being like, leave no witnesses.
Make sure he hears me say it, too.
Yeah.
Okay, I'm going to do it.
If Hillary Clinton were not the most boring woman in the world and had been like moving cocaine and murdering people, she would have won the election.
She would have.
When Donald Trump was stalking her ass around that stage, she would have been like, yo, back the fuck off, homie.
She would have pulled out a switchblade.
She's like, I used to move wild white across homie. No, she would have pulled out a switchblade. Yeah.
She's like, I used to move wild white across the fucking border.
You do not want this shit.
What do you think I dye my hair? You want to know why Pablo Escobar is dead?
Motherfucking me.
You know why Bill's hair is white?
From all that fucking blow we was doing in the 80s, bro.
Back up.
So yeah, that's clearly not going on.
So again, shout out to the globe for really trying to distract people again to point the
finger.
No, it's Hillary Clinton's husband who is the murderer.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Very clearly.
So, cool Bloid watch this week.
All right.
A couple other stories we wanted to hit.
Yeah.
Alexa, raise my kids.
Hey, hey.
The new feature is coming out, I guess, called Free Time on the Echo.
And it's basically optimized for kids.
So you can just leave your children alone with a Echo and they can ask it all the annoying shit,
like why is the sky blue and stuff like that. So in this new feature, it will basically turn
your CIA surveillance tube into a child caretaker now. And like it will, you know, it can limit
access to shopping features or news or other explicit content.
And it also optimizes the voice detection for kids' voices because they're higher-pitched or kids say shit like Alexa or whatever.
So it'll know how to listen to children.
And now instead of just giving direct answers when you're like, yo, how many grams in an ounce?
It's not just going to say 28 grams.
It'll give the kids more context.
So it'll,
you know, it'll give you more detail. So it's like really explaining to a kid answers that they want to know. So you can just be in the other room, smacked out of your mind and let the
machine raise your children. And it also has a like magic word feature that will reinforce sort
of like manners because there've been a lot of like think pieces I've seen from parents being
like, my kids talk so rude to these AI assistants or whatever. So now it'll make you
say like, please. And thank you. So, Hey, parents throw your hands up in the air, wave around like
you just don't care because Amazon has answered your prayers. Yep. Yeah. That can't possibly
be a problem. No, no. Letting a tube raise kids. It seems like one of those things where it seems funny now,
but really, we will see these kids who were raised by,
not raised by, but got a lot of information out of Echo from growing up.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
I feel like the more power we give Amazon over the developing minds of children,
the better off we'll all be.
Yes.
Yeah. See you at high school graduation, Ramsey.
I'm not going to fucking deal with this kid.
Jeff Bezos is going to show up at his graduation.
Yeah, your house is just littered with these new echoes.
I'm like, what the fuck is this, Jack?
Yeah, these are my kids' new parents.
Don't talk to me.
Oh, and finally, I just want to bring up that Paul Ryan forced out the House chaplain out of his job, forced him to resign.
The Jesuit priest who like does prayers and stuff for Congress.
The original SJW, man.
Dude, got kicked his ass out and people are very confused why he like suddenly resigned.
And it's because other House Republicans started complaining about him.
And it's because other House Republicans started complaining about him.
Like when they were voting on like the tax scam, he like led a prayer that basically asked people to get back in touch with their humanity and consider what the effects were of this bill.
And they did not fucking like that.
So that was like one of the first complaints.
Then this Jesuit priest had the nerve to have an imam come in and speak to the House.
And they were like, no, no, no, this is bullshit.
So all these complaints really had to do with the fact that he was a person of God who was really trying to inspire the teachings of the Bible
in the most basic sense of like being compassionate and caring about people
and not like running immigrants out on a rail or being, you know, homophobic and other shit like that.
And like another thing, apparently he had an interview in the National Journal where he was like saying like,
yeah, like there needs to be more accountability in like Congress for like sexual assaults and things like that.
So these are the kinds of complaints they had.
And Paul Ryan caved and now this Jesuit priest has to resign.
Well, if I know my Jesus, there's two things that he was all about.
And thing number one was taxing the poor. Yes, if I know my Jesus, there's two things that he was all about. And thing number one
was taxing the poor.
Yes, that's true.
And thing number two
was he loved money changers.
That's true.
Money lenders, banks.
That's why he watched
the tax collectors' feet, right?
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah.
He's a big fan of that.
Yeah, I guess so.
And white people.
He loved white people.
Loved white people,
loved white Jesus.
Then that's it.
And then also,
they even warned him
a few months ago
where someone literally said to him,
stay out of politics, Padre.
Really?
Stick to the ghost stories about Jesus, bro.
God damn it.
Let me fucking steal from an entire generation of people.
Boom.
All right.
Happy Friday.
It's a good Friday.
Robert, it's been lovely having you, man.
Thanks for having me. It's great lovely having you man thanks for having me
we're so excited
to have you
on our network
where can people
find you
you can find me
on the twitters
at
at I write okay
two letters okay
you can find my book
on Amazon
a brief history of vice
and you can find
my podcast
behind the bastards
dropping on May 1st
and you can find
a new episode
every Tuesday
it's gonna be great.
We're going to talk about Stalin's drinking binges and all sorts of fun stuff.
Yeah.
Oh, my God.
It's amazing.
I'm even on an episode coming up eventually.
And I'm telling you guys, if you like history and you want to know weird stuff, I mean,
I consider myself like someone who likes history.
But Robert, your ability to dig up this stuff is second to none.
So, yeah, it's definitely worth a listen yeah and there's something about like
bad people like the bad
guys of history they're just like way more
interesting I think it's maybe because
well first of all they're crazy but second of
all we just like have to turn them
into just complete villains
so we cut all the interesting shit out of
their lives and yeah we dehumanize
them like I've spent most of the last two weeks for the episode we're about to record
looking through everything Osama Bin Laden had on his hard drives,
just hours and hours of watching it.
And it's nuts, but it's not like Bond villain nuts.
It's like the motherfucker had like 40 hours of Tom and Jerry videos.
Weird.
Hey, man, I'm sure because they didn't didn't have like access to other like entertainment.
So you got to load up them hard drives when you hide now.
Yeah.
No, Tom and Jerry, very violent.
Uh, and I think we can all now say that Tom and Jerry caused nine 11 for sure.
I've been saying that for years.
Yeah.
You have been saying that to a weird degree.
Yeah.
Like almost every time we give us Twitter, follow, uh, hashtag Tom and Jerry.
True.
Yeah.
Hashtag false flag. Hashtag Tom and Jerry. True. Hashtag false flag.
Hashtag Tom and Jerry.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But yeah,
it turns out reality is like Batman movies.
The villains are way more interesting than the heroes.
Miles,
where can people find you?
You can find me on Twitter and Instagram at miles of gray.
G R a Y not E Y.
Stop misspelling my name.
It's very,
come on people.
You can find me at Jack underscore O'Brien on Twitter. Ray, G-R-A-Y, not E-Y. Stop misspelling my name. It's very funny. Come on, people.
You can find me at Jack underscore O'Brien on Twitter.
You can find us at Daily Zeitgeist on Twitter.
We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram.
We have a Facebook fan page and a website, DailyZeitgeist.com,
where we post our episodes and our footnotes, where we link off to the information and sources of that information
that we talked about on today's episode. And we also link off to the song that we ride out on which miles what is it today today
let's do something from little dragon this is a song called clap clap i think come out like 2014
like four years but wow it's been four years already guys uh yeah just a great song uh i just it's got big little synth vibe to it
and i just really enjoy a little dragon and i want to end this week on some high energy i also
love big little synth i've always been a fan of their work uh all right that was my dad joke for
the week yeah it was hilarious uh all right we're gonna ride out on that. We will be back on Monday.
Talk to you guys then.
Have a good weekend.
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