The Daily Zeitgeist - Trump Admin’s Only Popular Member Quits, 12 Years Left? 10.10.18

Episode Date: October 10, 2018

In episode 249, Jack and Miles are joined by visual artist and The Soft Spot co-host Meg Molloy to discuss the effects of Taylor Swift's political post, Kanye West's meeting with Trump, the false narr...ative that the republicans outmaneuvered the democrats, Nikki Haley's resignation, the fact that we only have a twelve year window to deal with climate change according to scientists, the disappearance of a journalist at the hands of Saudi's government, conspiracy theorists embracing the microwave attacking diplomats theory, Pizza Hut and Cinnabon joining forces, and more! FOOTNOTES: 1. Taylor Swift: Voter Registration Spike Follows Star’s Political Awakening2. Kanye West will meet with Trump at the White House to talk prison reform, violence in Chicago3. Haley: Kushner Is ‘Such A Hidden Genius That No One Understands’4. April 25, 2018 - Trump Gets Better Grades On North Korea, Quinnipiac University National Poll Finds; But Voters Say Trump Is Making World Less Safe5. Is Nikki Haley the most popular politician in America?6. Majority of top U.S. newspapers fail to mention landmark climate change report on their homepages7. Khashoggi Disappearance Is Part of a Ruthless Saudi Campaign to Crush Dissent8. Oprah, Rupert Murdoch, Harvard: Saudi Prince’s U.S. Tour9. Trump’s Publisher Pal Puts Saudi Propaganda Magazine in U.S. Supermarkets10. Saudi women's rights activist arrested as long-time driving ban lifted11. Trump Gives Dictators the Green Light12. Conspiracy Theorists Are Embracing A Microwave Theory About US Diplomats Injured In Cuba13. Pizza Hut and Cinnabon combine forces to make home cinnamon-roll delivery a reality14. WATCH: LION BABE - Rockets (Official Audio) ft. Moe Moks Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:16 For Wednesday, October 10th, 2018. My name's Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. Zeit with a zeit, da-bang, da-bang. Daily, daily, daily, said O'Brien, said Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. Zite with a zite, da-bang, da-bang. Daily, daily, daily, said O'Brien, said Jack O'Brien. That was courtesy of Hannah Soltis. And I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray! Miles be there for you when Trump does something wrong. Miles be there for you when they confirm Kavanaugh.
Starting point is 00:02:44 Miles be there for you and they confirm Kavanaugh miles be there for you and the entire Zeitgang too. I needed a harmony there. But anyway, that is a Friends theme song.
Starting point is 00:02:54 Shout out to Dragons or Down One. And you said, I only started a Twitter account just so I could
Starting point is 00:03:02 get an AKA shout out. You achieved it. So consider your thirst quenched. Oh man, I only started a Twitter account just so I could get an AKA shoutout. You achieved it. Consider your thirst quenched. I was hoping for some of the clapping parts. You need the whole verse. Not in the chorus. We're thrilled to be joined by the
Starting point is 00:03:19 very talented visual artist, writer, and co-host of the Saucepot podcast, Meg Malloy. Hey, guys. Hello. What's up, Meg? I'm super psyched to be here. We're super psyched to have you.
Starting point is 00:03:30 Thanks for joining us. So we are going to get a little bit more into who you are in a moment, but first we're going to tell our listeners a couple of things we're going to be talking about. Today we're going to be checking in with whether Taylor Swift accomplished anything by coming out and sharing her politics. Also, we're going to check in with the craziest meeting between a musician and a president since Elvis brought Nixon a gun while wearing a cape and tried to get himself hired as the head of the war on drugs, which wasn't a position. We're going to talk about the narrative that Republicans outmaneuvered Democrats in the Kavanaugh nomination, Nikki Haley's retirement, and the 12-year window we've been given to continue existing as a species. Basically. But first, Meg, we like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history that is revealing about who you are?
Starting point is 00:04:24 Meg, we like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history that is revealing about who you are? This is a good one. The last couple of days, I've been trying to figure out how to get my kid to not be scared of public toilets. So I've been Googling toddler toilet phobia. So that's me. So how does that work? Apparently, it's like a real thing. It's just like a trust thing or it's unfamiliar?
Starting point is 00:04:49 No, she just like won't do it. She stiffens her body and is like, I'll just hold it until I die. And apparently a lot of toddlers do that. But it's hard whenever you're out in the world and you don't want to just, you know, have to stop whatever you're doing and go home just so that your kid can use the toilet. A lot of kids have this problem. And I'm just trying to figure out how to solve it. So what are the tips? There aren't very many good ones. Oh, wow. It's basically-
Starting point is 00:05:16 It's like, just make them go. Yeah, no. It basically just talks about why they're scared, but I have yet to find any good tips. Online parenting advice. I know. Thumbs down. any good tips. Online parenting advice. I know. Thumbs down. Never anything good. I've never come across anything good or helpful. Okay, well if you have secrets, please at Meg over here
Starting point is 00:05:33 with your tips. If you know how to get your kid to use it's specifically public toilets, which I kind of get because they're pretty gross. I only do home to you. I was going to say, I know a lot of adults like that. I'm home field advantage. But that's only for number two. I only do home-feeling. I was going to say, I know a lot of adults like that. I'm home-feeling advantage. But that's only for number two. I could pee anywhere.
Starting point is 00:05:49 Or unless I'm in Japan, because public toilets in Japan are so clean. They're cleaner than my home, so therefore I'm comfortable there. But I think it's a cleanliness thing with some, I guess for me. But I don't know, for a child, maybe I've just held on to those things. I think it's the sound, the loud sound. But yeah, definitely I'm scared of. Oh, the flushing sound?
Starting point is 00:06:06 Yeah. Yeah. It is intense. She is not a fan of the flushing sound. Some public toilets sound like a fucking jet engine. Yeah. I cover my ears when I'm in an airplane, when I flush the toilet.
Starting point is 00:06:16 Yeah. Because I don't like it. Yeah. Since I was a kid. It looks like it will suck your soul right out of your body. Yeah. It's through your butthole. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:24 That's how it happens, right? Wasn't that like a myth they used to say as a kid? They're like, dude, you can't flush a toilet if you're sitting on it. Suck your butthole out. I know somebody who had their butthole turned inside out. It looked like a windsock. Oh, God. Sorry.
Starting point is 00:06:38 Sorry for getting so graphic. Well, hey, we're talking about facts. Is your daughter cool with other people's houses? Is it just public restrooms? She's not crazy about other people's houses, but're talking about facts. You know what I mean? Is your daughter cool with other people's houses? Is it just public restrooms? She's not crazy about other people's houses, but she'll do it. She'll be like, this is a nice flush. She'll ask me about what the flush situation is, but it's mostly public ones. So the flush really is.
Starting point is 00:06:57 I think a lot of it is that. Yeah. I get it, though, man. It's called potty training, not potty's training. Yeah, totally. She didn't learn to go on all these other toilets. I get it, though, man. You know, it's called potty training, not potties training. Yeah, totally. She didn't learn to go on all these other toilets. So maybe the advice is for in the future when you have young kids, get them trained on any number of models of toilets. Right.
Starting point is 00:07:14 Yeah, yeah. Just have like three next to each other. We're like, you got to go? Hold on. We're not going in there. We're going to go to Dodger Stadium. See what happens. That's right.
Starting point is 00:07:22 What is something you think is overrated? You know what? This is probably not going to be popular with the younger crowd, my age people, you guys maybe even, but I really hate social media. I'm trying to be better about it and engage more, but it just does not come naturally to me. Yeah. A lot of people are so good at knowing when to engage and when to post and
Starting point is 00:07:46 they're just so good at it and it seems so effortless and I'm just not like, I don't know, not as good at it. I think generally that is a sign of a mentally healthy person. Thank you. I think I will say that when it's a compulsion to like constantly post, I feel like that's a mentally unhealthy thing. Right. Like if you're forcing yourself to do it and like it's part of your career, I think that's good.
Starting point is 00:08:15 But I generally think, I don't know. And I think I'm saying that as an introvert who doesn't post very much on social media. who doesn't post very much on social media. I'm always so shocked when I'm sitting at like a restaurant or a bar somewhere and someone takes a picture of like their cocktail or their food before they even touch it. I'm like, it would never occur to me to have my camera ready to document whatever I was about to. Yeah, well, I think social media like that, it's created this like feedback loop, you know, obviously where people just need the validation that comes from just seeing the heart thing light up. And that feeds that behavior.
Starting point is 00:08:49 Because then it's like, oh, this is a beautiful car. It has a hibiscus flower in it. I'm definitely in portrait mode on this shit all day. And then all just to be like, I am having more fun than you. I know. Here's proof. And it's like, you can't actually be having that much fun if you're constantly thinking about recording
Starting point is 00:09:08 all of the fun that you're having. Yeah. I mean, I think for some people that is how they experience fun. Sure. Is by, you know, turning their life into a reality show that they're editing and producing for the rest of the world. Right. And, you know, they probably experience
Starting point is 00:09:23 it through, basically basically i wonder if people who are like that are able to just be like okay we're editing that memory out yeah you know i didn't really experience that because it didn't happen on social media do you know couples who have an entirely different existence on social media than they do irl i don't oh oh yes definitely you don't no i don't God. I know people who you thought they were the new sitcom of the perfect millennial couple. Yeah. And then you get in a room with them and you're like, what the
Starting point is 00:09:52 who are these people? Yeah. Because on social media they don't like each other? Oh, yeah. Everything is perfectly lit and it's like, throwback to this vacation. And I've heard the saying, it's the highlight reel of your life and it's true. And it's hard to keep that in mind and like participate in it and just achieve some kind of balance. Cause for a lot of people, part of your job, you know, kind of requires you to be
Starting point is 00:10:17 active on social media. Right. So yeah, I'm trying to do it without totally selling my soul, So, yeah, I'm trying to do it without totally selling my soul, like missing out on actual moments that happen. Yeah, it is a balance. I think if people are telling you like you have to be on social media, I think that's wrong. But if you like doing it and you have a healthy relationship with by all means, I know, you know, plenty of people on Twitter who use it as a joke writing mechanism. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, I think when you begin and I kind of got into that when I was even on break in Europe, and I was fucking on
Starting point is 00:10:47 IG all day, Her Majesty, my partner, she was like, what the fuck are you doing? And I was like, I felt a need to give people content, and then I was like, wait a second, let me just re-evaluate sort of what the reasons I'm doing it. If it's for self-expression or am I requesting
Starting point is 00:11:04 validation or like the, you know, the attention of others. You should have been like, this skepticism is not going to play with my IG fans. I'm like, you know what? I'm going to flame you on IG. Guys, this is a hater. Keep these people out of your life. What is something you think is underrated?
Starting point is 00:11:20 This right here. Polar seltzer. Okay. What? I was reading. Brought your own? I know. I did.. Polar Seltzer. Okay. What? I was reading. Brought your own? I know. I did.
Starting point is 00:11:27 I love Polar Seltzer. I know everybody loves La Croix or La Croix, however you're supposed to say it. It's called rat pesticide. Yeah, exactly. Pesticide spritzer. Cockroach. Cockroach, yeah. But I love Polar.
Starting point is 00:11:40 They have the weirdest, most- May I see the can? Yes. It's empty now. But they have the weirdest, most delicious. May I see the can? Yes. It's empty now. But they have the strangest flavors. I was just, they have one that's like Yeti Surprise. They have like, I know. They have like a mythical collection of flavors that just came out.
Starting point is 00:11:56 And I'm just like dying over these. Unnecessary. Unicorn Kisses, Dragon Whispers, Yeti Mischief. You appear to be drinking one called Lemon. I know. I went pretty basic in my flavor choice for today. What the fuck does Yeti Surprise taste like?
Starting point is 00:12:13 I don't know. I would imagine urine or something. They would have to tell you, right? Because they can't just be like, hey, Yeti Surprise. Right. Whatever the Yeti did. Oh, maybe it's like that Dum Dum, that lollipop where it has the question mark on the outside and you don't know what you're going to get. Or like the Yeti did. Oh, maybe it's like that Dum Dum, that lollipop, where it has the question mark on the outside and you don't know what you're going to get. Or like the white airhead.
Starting point is 00:12:29 Yes. Yeah. Oh, there's one called Pixie Lights and Minotaur Mayhem. I just, I don't know. And like Minotaur Mayhem is like, this is grapefruit. Right. Exactly. I'm sure that it is.
Starting point is 00:12:40 I'm sure it's some like plain flavor, but everybody loves LaCroix so much. It's become like such a thing. And I'm like, polar is where it's at. Hey, you know what? With flavors like that, I'm kind of digging the fact that it's so obscure. And even if it was just fucking orange. Right.
Starting point is 00:12:56 I prefer pixie whatever the fuck they were calling it. I know. Throw some razzle dazzle on that can and like give me a cool name. I'm into it. All right. All right. Polar from Worcester, Mass. I'll hit us up. LaCroix makes up their
Starting point is 00:13:08 imaginary flavors like, what's Pomple Moose? That's crazy. Moose? Some imaginary mythical type of moose? Never heard of it. Finally, what is a myth?
Starting point is 00:13:23 What's something people think is true that you know to be false? Oh, man. This one really stumped me. I think probably I'd have to go back to the social media thing and say that if your life looks good on social media or if you look happy, that's not really necessarily an indicator of how happy or fulfilled you actually are. Why don't you name names? Who are you name names? Honestly, myself sometimes. I'm like, wow. No, that's easy. Get messy.
Starting point is 00:13:52 Someone's handle. All the listeners can right now look this person and go, this is a lie. I mean, I guess that's true to a certain extent, right? Because we have control over what our perception is vis-a-vis these things. right you know you won't always have the most honest post of like feeling like shit today or whatever you might know yeah i'm smiling yeah it's a nice day right what can you
Starting point is 00:14:15 do just be honest y'all just be honest with yourselves it's all good we're there for you all right let's talk about somebody who's a little too good at social media. And that is one Ms. Taylor Swift. Her Instagram is really good, like almost too perfect. But she posted on Instagram. Cody Johnson did like a whole blog post about this back in the day. And she really is just incredible at Instagram. Really has a great eye or pays a photographer. I know. I was going to say, I wonder how much you make off of specifically doing Instagram.
Starting point is 00:14:51 Right. That's such a job, isn't it? I know. I love it. I would love to. I'm like, I don't want to make my cocktails look better than they are, but I'll make someone else's. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:01 In service of your ego. I'll lie about someone else's dinner. I'm going to art direct your life, basically. So Taylor Swift, as we mentioned on yesterday's episode, came out and explained where she's coming from on the political spectrum. LGBT rights and institutional racism and all sorts of things that her alt-right and white nationalist fans were probably not too excited to hear her talk about. They described it as a betrayal. Right. Oh, I haven't read about the blowback yet.
Starting point is 00:15:40 I mean, all you need to know is I think because she never said anything, it allowed those people to believe, well, she's surely an insane racist like we are. And then she came out and was like, systemic racism. I think people had like they just had meltdowns. I won't lie. I was like kind of assuming that she was a Republican. I was like, who doesn't speak up with a platform like this? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:04 No, I think we all did. And it was nice to see that she used her platform in a positive way. Yeah. So the end of the post really directed people to register to vote. She posted on the last day for registration in Tennessee. And apparently that worked. She really drove up registrations among people who are in the age group that her fans tend to be in. Yeah, because in the post, she's like, go to vote.org and figure out your voting situation, get registered.
Starting point is 00:16:34 And then they're reporting now that they had nearly 160,000 unique visitors in the last 24 hours since she posted. Their daily average was 14,000. Wow. And then on top of that, they had 65, nearly 65,000 registrations in the single 24 hour period since her post. And they said, just for context, that they had 190,000 new voters registered in the entire month of September, while 56,000 only signed in August. So she turned out more new registrations in 24 hours than they did in the entire month of September, while 56,000 only signed in August. So she turned out more new registrations in 24 hours than they did in the entire month of August.
Starting point is 00:17:08 Right. So, yeah, I guess she did move the needle, which is great. I mean, I think because she didn't. I think she has, what, 100 how many million followers? 112 million. Is that 112 million followers? Yeah. Woo!
Starting point is 00:17:23 That's a lot. That's a lot. We should aim for that. Yeah. That's a lot. That's a lot. That is a lot. We should aim for that. Yeah. That's a new goal. 112 million followers. Life goals.
Starting point is 00:17:35 But yeah, I think it probably helped that she really did not use like partisan language in it. Right. And just was like, although, hey, look, on the surface, clearly I'm progressive based on the shit I'm talking. Right. But I'm not going to say, hey, vote for the Democrats or vote against Republicans. Right. And hey, even if people registered that aren't voting for Democrats,
Starting point is 00:17:50 at least they're getting engaged. Yeah. I guess. Yeah. And I think among the age group, I think 18 to early 20s, they had more registrations than all other age groups combined by quite a bit. Just all in yesterday was a big day for registration. There you go. Wake up, kids.
Starting point is 00:18:09 I know. That's what we need. Wake up, kids. Time for school. We need more young people. Like, geez. Meanwhile, the president has a lunch meeting planned with Kanye West and Jared Kushner. I don't know. I don't have too much to say other than that it seems weird that the President of the United States is sort of taking advantage of this
Starting point is 00:18:30 prolonged manic episode and sort of dissolving of the sanity of Kanye West. He needs optics. He needs those good optics. Yeah. He needs to hold a black man's hand for camera going to these midterms. The whole Kanye thing just blows my mind. And that anybody is like, he's a free thinker. I'm like, no.
Starting point is 00:18:52 He's going through it right now. Something is wrong. He needs meds. He needs understanding. This is just crazy. I just feel like this would be the one time that Trump would meet with somebody. And afterwards, he'd probably look at Jared and be like hey he was kind of weird right
Starting point is 00:19:07 that was weird something different about him like that even he would even be like where's my friend Kanye I would love though you know in my bizarro fantasy dimension I live in from time to time I would love for Trump this is an intervention and he's like look my man we're worried about you people are worried
Starting point is 00:19:24 sick about you let's get you on these weapons get you back on your meds well that he was photographed in that like make america great again hat that he redesigned and then the colin kaepernick sweatshirt it's like this is not he's just having a lot of issues we talked about this yesterday of like how this is shifting more and more into a situation where like let's not make fun of kanye time anymore like oh this guy's a fucking idiot it's like i know this guy needs help he's i think he's sick and i think it's really sad that this is happening on such a public yeah large scale so hopefully this draws attention to the mental health issue in america yeah i mean he'll have to embrace it too, I think, a little bit, because he's always been like, I'm off my meds and I don't need them.
Starting point is 00:20:08 And it's like, hey, you know, you have agency, but at the same time, let's know about the best way to take care of yourself. Totally. Do you think he will bring the president a gift? Because you talk about Nixon and Elvis and how wild that encounter was. Elvis showed up with a handgun and wearing a cape. Was it loaded? No. I don't know. No, there's no way. Even a gun, forget if it's loaded or not. If walking into the White House
Starting point is 00:20:32 is a power move. Yeah, I think that's probably a no-go. I think somebody would probably intercept that pretty quickly. So Elvis never took a drug that he wasn't prescribed. And so he thought the Beatles were ruining America with all their like hippie pot smoking and LSD experimentation so that's what he basically called the meeting because he was so high that he wanted to talk to the president about other people using drugs and be more popular than him yeah yeah oh wow he was like come on man like make me the undercover head of the war on drugs type thing and i'll like go undercover and rat out the beatles i'll rat out like all these other musicians i'll go to like the next woodstock and like you know i'll wear a wire nixon was like this guy's
Starting point is 00:21:20 he was really selling him that shit yeah wow yeah hey. Hey, I'm going to rat out the Beatles. Do you think Kanye's going to try and be like, hey, I hate Canadian rappers, bro. How do we get them out? Right. Super producer Ana Hosnia pointed out that the only reason Nixon met with Elvis is because Nixon's daughter,
Starting point is 00:21:41 presumably Nixon didn't know who the fuck Elvis was. He's just been in a bunker, just licking his wounds from losing that election. so his daughter convinced him to meet with her and he was like well this is the last time i fucking listen to you yeah but i mean i just like the idea of him having to deal with hi elvis me like here's this gun right now i'm gonna be the fucking undercover guy on the war on drugs like all right please leave yeah so we'll see if baron's making trump meet with kanye or if kanye is uh poor baron yeah just being used as a political problem but not if he gets a bunch of free yeezys out of it
Starting point is 00:22:19 you know right he can he can be the coolest kid in school again. Right. Or maybe Kanye is just going to inform him that he's going to primary him in the 2020 election because he's going to run as a Republican. Wow, that would be dope. Just because he's like, I want to do the, you know, I'm about love. I want to do the honorable thing and do it lovingly. I want to look you in your eye and tell you, brother, I'm going to run against you. I'm going to primary you. But I do it out of love. Right. All right. We're going to take a quick break we'll be right back
Starting point is 00:22:48 definitely caruana galizia was a maltese investigative journalist who on october 16th 2017 was murdered there are crooks everywhere you look now. The situation is desperate. My name is Manuel Delia. I am one of the hosts of Crooks Everywhere, a podcast that unhurts the plot to murder a one-woman Wikileaks. Daphne exposed the culture of crime and corruption that were turning her beloved country into a mafia state. And she paid the ultimate price. Listen to Crooks everywhere on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This summer, the nation watched as the Republican nominee for president
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Starting point is 00:25:38 What was that? You didn't figure it out? I think I need to hear you say it. That was live audio of a woman's nightmare. This machine is approved and everything? You're allowed to be doing this? We passed the review board a year ago. We're not hurting people. There's nothing dangerous about what you're doing. They're just dreams.
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Starting point is 00:26:48 And I think it's just important because I was deep in that story enough to feel that way, right? Yeah, like how did they get that one? Right. And the truth is, given the proper context, it was always a Hail Mary that they would be able to defeat any Supreme Court nominee because the Republicans have the numbers in the Senate and they are willing to do anything necessary to get a Supreme Court nominee through. So, yeah, I mean, regardless of the... It's absurd. Yeah, and I think this is tying into the overall idea that the hearing and the testimony of Dr. Blasey Ford and Kavanaugh that everybody watched
Starting point is 00:27:39 launched this huge backlash that the Republicans are going to be bringing. But, Miles, you were saying that, like, most people vote. Yeah, you're angry. People that are angry vote. If you're complacent, you have no motivation to change your situation through voting. Which is how we got here. Think about the attitude of the fall of 2016.
Starting point is 00:27:57 Man, ain't nobody going to vote for this asshole. I know. Cut to. And now we're in a situation where if my goodness man progressive people liberals women all just people people of color they have an axe to fucking grind and yes again polling shows that democrats are doing very well but i think yeah definitely that because the progressive side took the hit in this hearing there's even more more, I think, energy behind it. And I think Republicans are just telling themselves that because they're looking at something off in
Starting point is 00:28:30 the distance and the sea coming towards them. And it looked like some kind of a wave. We don't know how big it is, but something will happen. And I just don't like this idea, like the outmaneuver thing. It's so clearly a way to try and paint this administration as getting a win. I know, I hate that. Because it was clear. It's like, you guys just made it very clear to any reasonable person that you really don't give a fuck about women, what women have to say,
Starting point is 00:28:52 that they could be telling the truth about anything. You're like, no, no, no, no, no. And yeah, now you want to make it like, yeah, well, we got them in and we outmaneuvered them. And really all you did was just- Like there was so much strategy involved. Yeah. No. The strategy was you have no moral sc Like there was so much strategy involved. Yeah. No.
Starting point is 00:29:09 The strategy was you have no moral scruples and you broke the rules. Yeah. Right. So yeah, congrats because you showed your ass. That's really all that happened. And I think that's just them trying to spin this tragedy, travesty, and a tragedy, a travesty like that. Yeah. And overall, the fact that the story came out that he was probably a sex crime, overall, that made him less popular.
Starting point is 00:29:30 It kind of heightened the support and enthusiasm among Republicans, but it made him less popular with swing voters and independents and Democrats. And yes, there appears to be a backlash to the Me Too movement, but that's nothing new. This just, I think, gave the people who are going to lash back about that movement an excuse to talk about it. It's like, you know, if patriarchy is a virus, you know what I mean? It tries to fight off any antibodies. And that's all that it's doing is trying to thrash and survive. Because there's even that woman who posted like,
Starting point is 00:30:07 here's my son. He's a sailor. Like that him too bullshit. And they're like, he refuses to go on solo dates anymore because he's afraid that feminists with an agenda are going to try and accuse him of something.
Starting point is 00:30:19 Then the sailor himself comes down and goes, pause all of this, mother. My mom is wacky. She goes extra on the fucking social media. I've never said anything like this to her. And it just kind of shows you, again, there's this whole culture wars aspect of it, too, that just played out in front of everyone. And also, like, a generation gap, too.
Starting point is 00:30:37 Yeah. Like, I think the people who are most concerned about the Me Too movement are people who are from a bygone era. Yeah, where they pulled shit and they're like, ooh, I don't want people talking about how I used to behave. Exactly. Or no longer accepting the shit that I had to go through in some cases. So Nikki Haley is out. She has resigned as the UN ambassador, which I don't know if it's a slow news day yesterday,
Starting point is 00:31:01 but apparently this was a big surprise and it's like being treated as a huge deal. Maybe I was just underestimating how big a deal Nikki Haley was. Well, she was pretty powerful when you think of our foreign policy as the UN ambassador. But, you know, it seemed like she was a little bit hamstrung with Mike Pompeo and John Bolton becoming like figureheads in that part of the administration. So I think a lot of people are pointing to like, is it because of that? Because she has less autonomy as a UN ambassador. Is it because she has financial woes, apparently, that we didn't know about? Or not woes, but she's trying to put two kids through college. You know, that $300,000 or whatever, three hundred thousand dollar salary isn't cutting it uh or does she have eyes on something bigger right i think
Starting point is 00:31:49 it's a combination of many of those things but from how everyone reports her moves as a politician she's very keen and clever and does nothing impulsively everything is for a reason and what was really struck me as interesting is that her resignation wasn't just like one of those things where you see a tweet get fired off and they're like, yeah, this person resigned. And then usually most of these people were like trying to sneak out the back door, hoping nobody ever noticed that they worked there. But this was like a big to do thing. They were in the White House and sitting next to each other and they were like, oh, she's the best. And she was saying, oh, we've done so much for foreign policy. It was like a love-in.
Starting point is 00:32:26 And not even Trump's nurse, Hope Hicks, got that kind of sending off when she left. I mean, granted, he did say a few words, but this felt very official. And it was just like, well, this is a real conscious uncoupling that we're doing. Yeah. Apparently, her approval rating is as high or higher than basically anyone else in the government. I think they said 63% of American voters back in April approved of her job performance versus only 17 who disapproved. you know, generally 7 to 12 percentage points underwater in similar statistics where, you know, over 50% of people disapprove of his performance,
Starting point is 00:33:14 and usually it's right around 40 who actually approve. So she's just way more popular than he is, and so I don't know if this is a bad thing she also broke with him on different things like his reaction to Charlottesville there was some other things where she I think the way he handled the North Korea situation Oh his Muslim ban she was not like on board with that and also the fact that he's just generally pushes back whenever they try and sanction Russia. She's not a fan of that.
Starting point is 00:33:48 Yeah. Just like rational things. The pretty big ones. Yeah. You know, the big ones. Yeah. I mean, I have a feeling she wants to run for higher office. People are saying maybe she's going to go into like bigger, you know, private industry lobbying.
Starting point is 00:34:02 She's definitely going to the private sector for now. But is it that she also has eyes on Lindsey Graham's Senate seat? Because if there is that midterm shakeup that they're talking about and Sessions is out and then Lindsey Graham's basically been auditioning for the last like two months, just completely throwing what little bit of character he had left like in the trash, becoming a full on Trumper that, you know, she's from South Carolina. She was the governor. Maybe she'll take over his seat. Maybe she really does want to run left like in the trash becoming a full-on trumper that you know she's from south carolina she was the governor maybe she'll take over his seat maybe she really does want to run in 2020 and she maybe knows that this maybe i'll get away from this sinking ship before i fully burn up with it i i there's so many things that we don't know one thing i did realize though i had no idea that
Starting point is 00:34:40 she was an indian american sequel yeah that she her real name is nimrata randawa and i had no idea that she was an Indian American sequel. Yeah. That she, her real name is Nimrata Randhawa. And I had no idea cause she passed this whole time. I had no one, like, I don't think I'd ever heard her speak about it, but yeah, that was a very interesting thing. I learned.
Starting point is 00:34:56 Where'd she get Nikki Haley from? She was called Nikki just growing up. Right. And then that's her last name is through marriage. Oh, through marriage. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:03 Yeah. Wow. Uh, super producer anna hosney i just brought up a picture of her and uh you know full indian garb yeah yeah wow that's surprising you think a woman of color would be a little more vocal in that administration right uh but you know it's you gotta tell the line in that administration. Right. But, you know, you gotta toe the line in that party. Her opposition to the Muslim ban makes a little more sense. Makes a lot more sense.
Starting point is 00:35:30 Yeah, a little more from identifying with immigrants coming from an immigrant family. But, yeah. We shall see. The thing I would really love, though,
Starting point is 00:35:37 is that she's playing Trump. She's like, oh, I'm gonna fucking primary you in 2020, but I'm gonna play you so good, you're gonna give me this beautiful send-off so in MAGA world, I'm still like a hero character.
Starting point is 00:35:48 Right, right. And when 2020 comes- But she's away, yeah. Yeah, she's like- Kind of playing both sides. Yeah, she's like, I see where this is going, and you might not even make it to 2020, my man. Right.
Starting point is 00:35:57 And then I'm going to come in with the broom and sweep up the ashes. I don't know, that's my Game of Thrones version. Both of her parents are Indian immigrants? Yeah, they immigrated to Canada first and then settled in South Carolina. Huh. Yeah. All right. Well, in less good news, I don't know why that was good news, but scientists-
Starting point is 00:36:17 Well, she's a war hawk, you know, it helps, but yeah. Scientists are giving us 12 years to do something about climate change. Yeah. And not really. Even they're like, it's pretty bad already. Like we're kind of fucked already. But we have 12 years before it is, you know, existentially. Like, you know, if we don't fix this, we're all going to die.
Starting point is 00:36:40 Yeah. Because that whole threshold, you know, of going between one and a half to two degrees Celsius above pre-industrial global temperature is sort of like they're saying, you know, that's our tipping point. And they're saying as we stand in the path we have in 40 years, it's going to be lights out, gorilla radio, irreversible climate change, basically. But if we act within the next 12 years to drastically reverse our carbon emissions, that there's a chance to keep it between 2 and 1.5 degrees Celsius change, which is that window that we can't really pass. Yeah. I think originally they thought it would be 3.2 would be the point of no return. And now based on the stuff they're seeing, it's closer to 2 degrees Celsius. Yeah. I just can't believe that anybody is doubting that this is an actual problem at this point.
Starting point is 00:37:30 Yeah. Or, like, just the level of threat that this poses to civilization and just humankind. Yeah. Oh, I think it's overwhelming to just tell, as an individual, you hear this and you're like, well, I take a reusable bag to the store and I have a hybrid. What else can I do? And you're like, see, the issue is they do a good job of making us, the regular people, the consumer, like it's our responsibility. I know.
Starting point is 00:37:55 When really it's the industries themselves that need to sort themselves out. Right. But they're saying that the biggest threat is going to be to insects are really fucked once the habitat changes. Right. Two degrees Celsius. They're saying that insects would lose more than half of their habitat. The bee population. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:17 Kind of count on them for a number of useful things. Yeah, and also just having summers where there's no Arctic ice and things like that. What's interesting about this though too is how underreported this study was. You know, Media Matters sort of did an analysis of like the top 50 in US newspapers
Starting point is 00:38:35 and who had it on their front page or who had it on their homepage as a story. And only 22 out of 50 publications had it on their homepage. God, it should be everywhere. Yeah. I mean, I do worry a little bit like with my own kid.
Starting point is 00:38:48 I'm like, I don't want to scare her, but I also want her to make as many choices as she can to live a life that, you know, sustainability. I am vegetarian. My kid's vegetarian because I do feel like industrialized farming is definitely a big part of it. But, God, I feel like it should be everywhere. It should be something that we're thinking about all the time. Right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:14 And it's odd, too, when they look at some of the cities that didn't report it, 10 of them are on the list of the cities that will be most affected by climate change. Yeah. Like their own papers aren't reporting it. And I don't know if that's a burying your head in the sand thing or the owners of the paper have ties to the fossil fuel industry. So that's just shit they don't talk about. Right. But I mean, it's like-
Starting point is 00:39:36 It's tough to face. Yeah. We need to. Yeah. When scientists are literally waving their hands in the air, they'll be like, yo, fucking 12 years. Panic mode, yeah. Or like, you know, we've been able to kick the can down the road,
Starting point is 00:39:46 but now we're really saying like, what the fuck are we going to do? I don't know. What's that like for you guys as parents? I always think about that too of like, because 20 years from now, right, if we keep fucking up, that's irreversible. Right. And you're looking at a world where the fucking summers are never ending, forest fires keep happening, the super storms keep happening.
Starting point is 00:40:01 fucking summers are never ending. Forest fires keep happening. The super storms keep happening. Yeah. And like you say, you want your child to know or be aware that they can have an effect. You know, do you want to tell your kids about this? Do you want to be like, yo, the fires could consume us? I don't know. I think it is kind of a, I mean, it's never not scary to be a parent, but right now, like
Starting point is 00:40:23 teaching my little girl, I mean, she's too young to really get into it. But when she gets a little bigger and I have to explain this whole Kavanaugh thing to her and how her experiences do matter and she should always speak up and she should not worry about being ridiculed. Things like that. You know, the climate change thing. It's just like a lot and you don't want to overwhelm your kid but you also want them to grow up with some level of awareness like you know what they're really facing you know yeah in the world today yeah we just keep like a low level of background noise of mad max films yeah yeah every time we're just in the house. And Roland Emmerich disaster flicks.
Starting point is 00:41:06 Yeah. They're like, all right, y'all seen 2012? Yeah, so he should be prepared. That he's learning how to make his own homespun clothing. Right. He's going to be a yeoman farmer. Yeah, no, it's really frustrating and it makes me super angry
Starting point is 00:41:22 because these are also, a lot of the politicians who are doing this have kids, have grandkids. I know. I think about that often. I'm like, how do you face your kids? Right. Well, they probably have a secret club for like a spaceship that everyone's going to fuck off to. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:39 They're like, it's cool. We're just going to blast you off into this thing. Yeah. I don't know. We've got this super cool bunker ready for you. So you don't need to worry about these normal people. Yeah. They'll rip each other apart on the surface.
Starting point is 00:41:52 We will be happier underground. Right. Like that Ben Folds Five song. All right. Yeah. They're probably talking about that Ben Folds Five song, right? I mean, it's a deep cut, but yeah. All right.
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Starting point is 00:45:54 yeah what is a real woke woke new leader yeah uh that i saw in my grocery store aisles it's like yeah oh and and you notice how there's no ads i think we were talking about that too wow magazine that had no ads in it yeah that must have cost a decent amount yeah so anyways we always suspected that maybe he wasn't as uh you know woke and chill as he was trying to come off during his world tour and we're starting to see some of the strongman tactics come out and the fact that he is part of this movement around the globe that is like strongmen coming to power and staying there via violence and abuses of power.
Starting point is 00:46:40 Yeah. I mean, he was very quick to lock up people who had anything even, even remotely negative to say about the regime or any of the policies. And this newest incident is a definitely an escalation of sorts. Uh, so there is this Saudi journalist named Jamal Khashoggi, uh, who wrote, who wrote for the Washington post and many other outlets and was a very vocal critic of Mohammed bin Salman, which would have made him a target. But apparently on last week... He lived in Turkey.
Starting point is 00:47:12 If he lived in Saudi Arabia, he would have been fucked, but he lived in Turkey. Yeah, just to be like, yo, you can't touch me over here. But apparently that wasn't the case. So he went into the Saudi consulate last week to get some papers filled out so he could marry a Turkish citizen. But he never came out. There's video of him entering the building. He's never left and he's been missing ever since. And many people are like, yo, he they fucking killed him in there. They kidnapped him in there. Something is going on. Yeah. Because suddenly this guy walks into the consulate and is out.
Starting point is 00:47:47 Yeah. And the Saudi government, they're like, oh, no, we don't know her. He left. Like, they're really acting stupid about it. And then Turkish President Erdogan is like, I need evidence. They're saying that they will search the building now. They don't know if there's going to be like a forensic sort of analysis or study investigation of the crime scene. But, you know, this is nothing new.
Starting point is 00:48:11 But this is just another example of how, you know, how things are working over there. And this just seems very, very aggressive because I think in the past there have been Saudi princes who have been in other countries who have been just sort of taken away back to Saudi Arabia. But this is like a whole, this just seems like a whole other level where we're talking about a man came into a building and then never left. Yeah. That's a pretty bold thing to play stupid about. Yeah. Right. It's crazy. This has been, you know, groups like Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch have been on top of Mohammed bin Salman. But like, it's very hard to know what's actually going on because there's never really accurate numbers from the Saudi government. Right. They they suspect that as many as 30 people have been detained since May,
Starting point is 00:49:00 just in May. Some people have been released. But then there are many more that they arrest people who they say have alleged ties to Islamic extremist groups. But everything is so murky that they really they still don't really know. What they do know is that if people are speaking up, they typically end up in prison or worse. And yeah, the U.S. hasn't really said much aside from like i think trump was like i've read some things i don't like what i'm reading yeah and that's again i mean we just have a very real buddy buddy relationship with saudi arabia that you know first off sprang from our desert thirst for uh crude oil but i was like you know it's turned into this relationship where we'll just
Starting point is 00:49:42 turn a blind eye because we need them as a strategic ally in the region. And they'll continue to push the boundaries a little bit. But, yeah, I mean, for all the times that Trump wants to complain about, like, human rights violations and things, I mean, like, look right there. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. pointing out that like his media blitz included like him meeting with bill clinton rupert murdoch oprah winfrey took selfies with movie stars and there was a new york times op-ed writer i forget which one where he was like mbs is the future of this country or is like you know talking about all
Starting point is 00:50:21 these wild like crazy ideas he has and that he was going to open the first movie theaters and let women drive. But then he arrested a bunch of women right before the ban was lifted because they still had something to say about it. Right. It's just, yeah. I mean, it shows you. It's like the kind of the shit Paul Manafort does is like,
Starting point is 00:50:43 hey, are we having image? That's what Manafort's whole thing so first he came to washington made lobbying like the number one business in washington as opposed to when it was just like a thing that politicians would employ here and there suddenly like after manafort got through with it every like it was the most important thing was to have highly paid lobbyists who would look out for your interests. And then he went abroad and started doing that for like people with war crimes, you know, like complete monsters. He would, you know, use these media tactics to whitewash these guys' reputations. And he was successful at it because our system is generally too clouded by things that – interests besides what is actually true.
Starting point is 00:51:34 Yeah. Shows you what a good magazine spread will do. It's corruptible. For people's public perceptions or that people will just be like, oh, he was in a magazine. I can't believe people named him the sexiest man alive this year. It's crazy. I did not see that coming.
Starting point is 00:51:48 So I wanted to check back in with the microwave theory about U.S. diplomats because, yep, there it is. Tell people what you think is going on. Well, so in Cuba, like right at the start of the trump administration uh diplomats started complaining of nausea and headaches and hearing these like loud noises and they started speculating that it was uh some sort of covert attack from some unknown uh weapon that you know our military had not scientifically discovered, like didn't know was possible.
Starting point is 00:52:29 Because the way the incidents were described, it would have to be like sound waves or it was more recently speculated that microwaves could do this because microwaves at the right frequency can cause like a clicking to you to hear like a clicking in your ear but i've from the start just based on having read a lot about like mass hysteria and i think they're called socially caused illnesses or something but basically i've always thought that's what was going on and so once the new york times wrote this article about how microwaves were a possibility this huge community of conspiracy theorists jumped on jumped on board and were like yeah see we've been talking about this from day one. So there's this huge community of people who claim about 4,000 different members across the United States.
Starting point is 00:53:32 Yeah, what do you call yourselves? They call themselves. Oh, they. They believe they're the objects of secret electronic attacks. And there's a worldwide association called freedom for targeted individuals so they all think that they're being that the government is like beaming them with microwaves and like attacking them wherever they go but because there's this like because because these diplomats uh claim that are starting to claim that like micro,
Starting point is 00:54:06 they must have been microwave attacks. It's given fuel to this fire of conspiracy theories. Because they can go, see? Right, that's right. So they started taking out, there's this one creepy billboard near Phoenix, Arizona, where it says contract stalking and electronic assaults. These growing crimes are
Starting point is 00:54:25 not being stopped. Inform yourself. Share. Demand change. Freedom for targeted individuals. So they call themselves targeted individuals. A 2016 study by a guy named David James found that of 1,040 people who reported being stalked in a survey, the 128 who said they were stalked by a group or a gang were all likely delusional. So that's a thing. Like one of the creepiest and saddest type of YouTube videos that you can find are people who think they're being stalked by gangs.
Starting point is 00:55:03 That's really sad. And they're like, see, that was the third time that person walked by today. And it's like, that's your neighbor. Sounds like some Kanye shit, honestly. Oh, absolutely. Do they have billboards? Yeah, they're putting up billboards. Do they explain like, oh, I worked on this thing.
Starting point is 00:55:21 That's why I'm being targeted. Or I worked with this politician. Or I know this secret about a bank or is it just like. Is there any reasoning or they just think they've been selected to be followed or. I think they just believe they've been selected I'm sure some of them have better reasons than others. Or maybe in their minds
Starting point is 00:55:36 they have a reason to I don't know. Yeah no I mean I'm yeah The visual I get in my head is of literal microwaves shooting like laser beams at people from the sky. Yeah. I like that. Just floating microwaves.
Starting point is 00:55:50 Just like that old screensaver. Remember After Dark? There's the toaster with wings screensaver. Yeah. Nope. Anybody? The one that went like up and down. It was just like toasters.
Starting point is 00:56:00 I imagine the microwaves with wings. Updated version. But these groups, because, like, these used to be isolated individual people. You know, the people who were paranoid and thought they were being stalked. But now social media has allowed them to, like, create support groups and find one another. And enable it even further. Yeah. And now they're getting, like, legislation passed. And now they're getting like legislation passed. There's in 2015, the city council in Richmond, California, passed a resolution that decried, quote, stalking by space based weaponry in solidarity with these, quote, targeted individuals.
Starting point is 00:56:36 I'm sorry. What, Richmond? You signed legislation that had the word space based what? What? Yeah. Space based weaponry. They thought they were being stalked by space-based weaponry. You know, they just heard from probably a handful of constituents
Starting point is 00:56:51 or, you know, one member of this group got to, you know, three other people who were like, oh, okay, that makes sense. Right, right. Wow, like legitimizing paranoia. Yeah, I mean, it's the same thing that is happening with, you know, anti-vaxxers and shit like that. So do you think like the legislators just like, you know, honestly, like what? It's not going to change anything for anyone if we sign this into law. They're like, let's just fucking do it.
Starting point is 00:57:19 So they leave us alone. Or do you think that the people were actually like, no, I believe this is important. I don't think anybody probably believes it. No, I don't think any of the people on the city council probably believe it. You can get anything passed through a city council. They'll just be like, all right, anyone object? Passed. Moving on to the next thing on our docket. The Zeit gang is now hereby recognized as an actual gang. Right. Perfect.
Starting point is 00:57:46 But yeah, so, I don't know. That's something I didn't know about, was that targeted individuals was something to look out for. This is from a writer at BuzzFeed News, Dan Vergano, who is even more on this whole thing as bullshit tip
Starting point is 00:58:02 than I am, and I've been on that from day one, but he's like, this is definitely mass hysteria. Right, right. So what do you guys call your group? Buzzfeed? Yes, Buzzfeed. It's called Buzzfeed. For the buzzing in my ears.
Starting point is 00:58:16 And is feeding my paranoia. I don't know why I'm getting, I'm saying there is no conspiracy. Yes, I know, Jack. Leave me alone. Miles, you and your group that have been stalking. Target is in the building. Target is wearing a black polo shirt.
Starting point is 00:58:33 What? Yeah. What's that? Pizza Hut and Cinnabon? That's what I said. That is what you said. You can hear the words being read. No, Jack.
Starting point is 00:58:41 I'm not feeding information into your head via microwave. But that was a really hard pivot in the paint, and we call that Pizza Hut and Cinnabon are joining forces. Now, we like to talk a lot about junk food on this show because it's our roots. It's in our DNA to eat the food of our people. Yes.
Starting point is 00:58:59 White America. Now, yes, Cinnabon, I don't know anybody who doesn't like Cinnabon. Just off top. You might not eat it all the time or seek it out, but I've never met someone who's had it or says, I don't like Cinnabon. And if you do, fine, whatever.
Starting point is 00:59:15 I don't like the taste of Cinnabon. Yeah, how could you not? And that's how I know I'm a true red-blooded American patriot, because I love Cinnabon. There's nobody who's like the anti-cilantro people who are like, this tastes like soap. I'm definitely one of those people. Are you cinnamon or cilantro tastes like soap? I am.
Starting point is 00:59:32 It's like poison to me. I cannot. It's a genetic thing, right? Yeah. It's a gene that you have. Well, anyway. There are people who hate almost everything but not Cinnabon. Oh, that's true because it's delicious.
Starting point is 00:59:43 It's sugar and butter. I'll ride for Cinnabon. Oh, that's true because it's delicious. It's sugar and butter and bread. I'll ride for Cinnabon to the day I die. It is the height of, that's a thing. There's this book, Salt, Sugar, Fat, that's all about the engineering of American food. And it's just like, it really is the height of scientific discovery merged with consumerism.
Starting point is 01:00:02 It's like a diabetes booby trap. Yeah, exactly. They are just targeting specific parts of your brain. They're testing mouth feel. Cinnabon is I think Cinnabon, Coca-Cola, and nacho cheese
Starting point is 01:00:16 Doritos are the three perfect foods that are just like, we're hopeless against these foods. How long do you think you could last on a diet exclusively of Doritos, Coca-Cola, and Cinnabon? Before your doctor goes, I'm sorry, you have to stop this. You know what? I like Doritos, but I love the Dorito Loco Tacos.
Starting point is 01:00:38 Hey, that's what I'm talking about. Well, I mean, now you're talking about vegetables. I know, right? There's salad in there. We're fundamentally messing up this experiment. We're talking about Doritos, Cinnabon. My question is, and I was writing this in the doc, I feel like every person has either worked at Cinnabon
Starting point is 01:00:53 or knows somebody who has worked at a Cinnabon. Oh, for sure. For me, it was Allie, my homegirl Allie. She worked there and used to hook me up crazy. She would even give me a bag of the icing. I know. How did we not get all of our friends that work there fired? I worked a bunch of mall jobs and
Starting point is 01:01:08 I remember my friend Lindsay would be like here's a couple cups. The tester cups full of icing. And I was like I'm ready to take on my eight hour shift. Woo! Yeah! I'm so high! Yeah but now anyway so if you're interested now
Starting point is 01:01:24 Pizza Hut. Now, you know, it's not my favorite pizza, but I like their buttery ass crust. That is a plus for Pizza Hut. $5.99. 10 mini buns. It's all there. Wow. Not a fan of Pizza Hut?
Starting point is 01:01:37 No. My least favorite. Call more than Papa John's. Yeah. What? I like it less than Papa John's. What the fuck just happened? I don't like Pizza Hut, man. I haven't had Pizza Hut in a long time. What? I like it less than Papa John's. What the fuck just happened? I don't like Pizza Hut, man.
Starting point is 01:01:46 I haven't had Pizza Hut in a long time. You don't like Pizza Hut? You like Papa John's more than Pizza Hut? I mean, I just dislike them both equally. They're both garbage to you? But I will, like, if I'm at, like, a, you know, meeting, a function, and they've got, I would be less excited that they had Pizza Hut than Papa John's. What about Domino's?
Starting point is 01:02:04 Where do you stand on Domino's? Domino's is our favorite fast food. Domino's podcast. Okay. I love Little Caesars too. Not the best pizza. It's more for sentimental value. That's funny that you don't.
Starting point is 01:02:13 See, I like the pan pizza from Pizza Hut. I think it's their marinara sauce. Oh, really? The sauce doesn't even register because that fucking crust is so buttery. Right, right. Just oily that I'm like, yes. But that's, we all know that. I love the Pizza Hut experience, like how they used to have like a pizzeria where it was like a salad bar and you could get the pitcher of Coke and stuff.
Starting point is 01:02:35 That was dope. But I just think they need to work on their marinara sauce. Wow. Or those big red plastic cups that used to be in all those restaurants that were like. Frosted. Yeah. Coca-Cola emblazoned on them. Yeah. Wow. Or those big red plastic cups that used to be in all those restaurants that were like... Frosted. Yeah. Coca-Cola emblazoned on them. Yeah. But anyways, I now have a reason to start ordering Pizza Hut because,
Starting point is 01:02:55 yeah, they'll bring you Cinnabon. Cinnabon. I like you respect the name, the pronunciation. Yeah. This is such an off thing, but do you remember the sketch that was like goth talk on snl that was molly shannon and chris katan where they were like two goth people yeah and didn't chris katan's character work at cinnabon i feel like he was like i had a bad shift at cinnabon that to me showed how no matter what cinnabon touched us all yeah universal oh yeah 100 it's crazy that the icing came in bags i'm just thinking back on that because it did come in like a pre-made like the sort of bag that like caulking
Starting point is 01:03:31 like yeah mix comes in anyways uh so wait you're you're saying that pizza hut will now offer cinnabon yeah so it's part of their delivery offering now so you can just you can really just never leave the house. That is a no-brainer. Because all these different pizza places have been offering, and by all these, I mean Domino's, have been offering- I know. I was going to say, you're talking about Domino's.
Starting point is 01:03:55 They always offer you the dessert. The cinnamon sticks, right? And I'm always like, why the fuck would I want your dessert? Right. That's just your breadsticks with sugar and cinnamon on it. You're not fooling me with this. You have recontextualized your dough into being a dessert. I'm just looking at what else they offer there.
Starting point is 01:04:13 Cinestix. At Cinnabon? No, no, no, at Domino's. They don't have the full menu? No, they do. So at Domino's, the dessert, they have cinnamon bread twists now. Not Cinestix anymore. Domino's marbled cookie brownie.
Starting point is 01:04:26 Oh, okay. And chocolate lava crunch cake. Yeah. But I mean, think about how smart that is. Like if they just like got something that was branded by fucking Oreo or Antions or something. Yeah. Pizza Hut got the Kingfish.
Starting point is 01:04:41 They got the Cinnabon. Yeah. You can't fuck with Cinnabon. Domino's has Krispy Kreme or something. Yeah, Krispy Kreme. That would be crazy. Okay, that would put them over it for me because I do love Krispy Kreme.
Starting point is 01:04:54 In the franchise wars have begun. Or like one of those cupcake companies that people like so much. All right. Well, Meg, it's been a pleasure having you thanks guys thanks for having me where can people find you on the social media that I'm trying to get
Starting point is 01:05:11 better at I am not super active on Twitter I'm the worst I just got a Twitter this year I'm mostly a lurker use it as a news source I always love seeing people with accounts with zero tweets. Hey, Lurker.
Starting point is 01:05:27 No, every once in a while. Only really when something makes me mad. Like when Trump does something crazy or this Kavanaugh thing. That's when you'll hear from me. So I'm Meg.Malloy on Instagram. I'm way more active on there. Or I at least try to be. And I am MooMooMeg on Twitter.
Starting point is 01:05:46 There you go. MooMooMeg. MooMooMeg. And is there a tweet that you've enjoyed in the past couple days? Not for positive reasons, but I did want to bring up the Trump's Christopher Columbus tweet. His spirit of determination and adventure has provided inspiration to generations of Americans. On Columbus Day, we honor his remarkable accomplishments as a navigator and celebrate his voyage into the unknown expanse of the Atlantic Ocean.
Starting point is 01:06:16 Wow. He crashed into America, motherfucker. Wow. He's a genocider. Yeah. I like, what a euphemistic description. Wow, right? So that blew me away pretty hard. That's pretty nuts.
Starting point is 01:06:29 He's like, why does that director get a day? Chris Colan? Oh, no, not him. Donald. Miles, where can people find you? Find me on Twitter and Instagram at MilesOfGrey. A tweet I like is from Auntie Donna Hugh.
Starting point is 01:06:45 And it's a quote tweet, retweet of a page six article. It says, like, it has a picture of Liam Neeson. It says, Liam Neeson says, horse in new film knew him from another movie. Wait, what? And then it just said, this is the love story
Starting point is 01:07:01 our generation deserves. I don't even know what that means. Just the idea that Liam Neeson would have been said, this is the love story our generation deserves. I don't even know what that means. Just the idea that Liam Neeson would have been like, this horse recognizes me. From Rob Roy or whatever the fuck. That's a pretty good Liam Neeson. You know, I just go off top. I just have to look at a photo and try and become him. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:20 You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. A tweet I enjoyed is from Rob Delaney, who, quote, Donald Trump Jr. tripping over baby elephant and lion skulls as he struggles to pull his true religions on to run to his treehouse to yell at Taylor Swift online. Thought that was an evocative image that was probably happening somewhere. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page on our website, DailyZeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes. Footnotes.
Starting point is 01:07:52 We link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode as well as the song we write out on. You can also find that information in the show notes. Miles, what song are we going to write out on today? Let's go out on a track from Lion Babe. This track is called Rockets. And again, this is a jam to get your big toe jumping and your hips pumping and pumping. No, that sounds weird.
Starting point is 01:08:19 Just dance to this in your car and have a great day. All right. We're going to ride out on that. We will be back tomorrow because it is a daily podcast. We'll talk to you then. Bye. Bye. We lit, we lit, yeah Fly high like I'm NASA Move my hips like a soft fly
Starting point is 01:08:53 I'm like butter on a lobster We lit, we lit Got me singing like I'm Chaka Moonwalking in Mekasa The young queen Cleopatra We lit, we lit We lit, we lit, yah We lit, we lit We lit, we lit, yah Relax, relax, relax, relax All these spaceships and rockets
Starting point is 01:09:28 Got me feeling high All my spaceships and rockets Fall into the sky Fall into the sky Fall into the sky Fall into the sky Fall into the sky Fall into the sky Congo with my Rasta
Starting point is 01:10:01 Maringue with the lobster We eat fishes with the pasta We lit, we lit Fin feelin' like a pop star Having dreams of a rap star The young king with the rap style We lit, we lit We lit, we lit, yeah We lit, we lit We lit, we lit, yeah All these spaceships and rockets
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