The Daily Zeitgeist - Trump-Free(ish) Wednesday: Giant Hornets, Hungry Skin 5.6.20

Episode Date: May 6, 2020

In episode 624, Jack, Miles, and Jamie are joined by the author of OMG WTF Does the Constitution Actually Say? Ben Sheehan to discuss Elon Musk and Grimes new baby, Neil Gaiman and Amanda Palmer's br...eak up, murder hornets coming to America, skin hunger, the top recipes people are searching for, Wendy's running low on beef, and more!FOOTNOTES: Elon Musk and Grimes welcome a baby boy Tom Cruise And Elon Musk Working On Action Movie To Be Shot In Space: Report Amanda Palmer’s Patreon Subscribers Found Out About Her Breakup Before Neil Gaiman Did Invasive giant hornets have been spotted in the US for the first time The 5 Most Horrifying Bugs in the World 'Murder hornets' have arrived in the U.S.—here's what you should know Trump and His Infallible Advisers Skin hunger helps explain your desperate longing for human touch 6 Reasons America Is Starting To Pay For Cuddle Parties Chicken Recipes, Bread Recipes Among Most Popular Coronavirus Cooking Searches Across America Meat Shortages Leave Wendy’s Diners Asking, ‘Where’s the Beef?’ WATCH: Melody's Echo Chamber - Shirim Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:14 Listen to Rebel Spirit on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hello, the internet, and welcome to season 132, episode 3 of Der Daily Zeitgeist, a production of iHeartRadio. This is a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness and say, officially, off the top, fuck the Koch brothers and fuck Fox News. It's Wednesday, May 6, 2020. My name's Jack O'Brien,
Starting point is 00:02:40 a.k.a. In the town where I was born, lived a man who'd quarantined. And he told us of his life in the time of COVID-19. That is courtesy of Rich Jefferson. And I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. Fuck my life, is this genius trying to end this quar? They start spending much sooner.
Starting point is 00:03:16 Don't give a fuck on the Shiro White Boomer. Nice. And we're back from a technical glitch. Miles just rocked that AKA so fucking hard that the H6 started not just buzzing in his headphones, it started buzzing out loud. Oddly to us. It was just like, ah, what the fuck?
Starting point is 00:03:40 See, and it happened again because this technology is so unpredictable so uh yeah i was gonna say uh taylor fleming uh inspired that aka uh to do a papa roach one and then i just had to i just something the lyrics were calling me in a different direction yeah i should have probably just took his aka as written see i learned my lesson yeah Well, we're thrilled to be joined in our third seat by our choir co-host, Lil Zam herself, Jamie Loftus. Hey, Jamie. I hear the Zoom call going with Miles and Jack OB.
Starting point is 00:04:15 Zeitgeist. And maybe he'll talk to Daniel too. Yeah, maybe. Ana Hosnier. But you all know what to do with those hot topics and Twitter trends. Oh. You're sighting again. Do, do.
Starting point is 00:04:34 Thank you. Okay, that's from Jeff Crisco. I got 500 versions of this, and I thank everyone who wrote me a version of the Frasier AKA that I requested. everyone who wrote me a version of the fraser aka that i requested um and also to everyone who was my i i got a couple different menchies being like jamie don't you know that kelsey grammar has bad politics i'm like yeah i've seen him of course he has bad who doesn't my favorite bad thing about kelsey grammar is that he broke up with his wife on the phone though camille no on no like an earlier oh really an earlier i think so or what was it oh yeah so he's just like a pile of broken women
Starting point is 00:05:15 behind him basically yeah he's a bad man but frazier's a good show experiencing the camille breakup uh through beverly hills uh real housewives of beverly hills was it was very like he just went to do a show in new york and like stopped talking to her essentially he's so then maybe it was camille that he broke up with over the phone maybe she would have been lucky to get a phone breakup and he she didn't get a breakup at all. He just stopped talking to her. It was not cool. The Galaxy Brain take here is that we stan David Hyde Pierce
Starting point is 00:05:52 and Kelsey Grammer is an unfortunate accessory to the whole Frasier operation. Of course. Of course. We are thrilled to be joined in our fourth seat by first time guest, the hilarious Ben Sheehan. I am so thrilled that this started off with Papa Rich Parodies, and I can only imagine that puddle of mud is really disappointed to have been left out of this.
Starting point is 00:06:15 They'll get there. They'll get there. I don't know. I don't know that. No, you're right. We don't know. Ben, how are you doing? We're doing okay.
Starting point is 00:06:23 We're doing okay. You know, going on week I don't know 7, 8 of quarantine Yeah what are we? Sick of everything we're eating pretty much Is I think where everyone is Yeah
Starting point is 00:06:35 I don't count Is it 8? Is it 7? It's probably close Let's see 1, 2, 3, 4 5, 6, 7 seven eight yep start your dance start your dance routine because it's five six um yeah i'm going full out on this core now that's uh yeah i would
Starting point is 00:06:58 have had no idea i got i that that's good to know though are you just eating kind of the same thing is that why you're saying you're kind of getting into the boredom of the food? What's going on? You said that first. I know. Well, look, I'm saying that I may have a limited range of things that I can make. And you're going to the same store over and over. You're kind of falling to your routine.
Starting point is 00:07:21 And I think it's on me. It's really, really, this is me talking to myself. It's my responsibility to either expand the grocery stores or to expand my slate of things to make. What do you, I mean, give me an idea. What's your thing? What are you making over and over that is starting to? Also, I'm saying I'm making this, but really this, my girlfriend is a very, very skilled chef,
Starting point is 00:07:41 and she makes way better food than I do. So this is me talking to myself and my shortcomings i'm reminded of every day um really big on uh you know the uh uh the right mix of additions to a smoothie you've got your frozen fruit but it's like adding a little bit of ginger adding a little bit of honey adding a little bit of the right powder something to kind of spice it up a little bit this is intense this is like some high level stuff i don't even fuck with smoothies but more power to you a powder i can't even imagine like what maca powder a little um there is we got this is that the green one i don't know just some shit people i know who live in tapanga tap Canyon, talk about it. We got some... Miles calls it maca, but it's matcha.
Starting point is 00:08:29 We got some random mushroom powder in the mail, and that I don't really... I mean, not just sort of like a regular dietary supplement powder, and I'm not entirely sure it does anything, but we're experimenting with it. We're seeing where it goes. Yeah. Experimenting with mushrooms. It's a great time to do that during Quar.
Starting point is 00:08:44 And are you publicly dating Jackie? I am publicly dating Jackie Johnson. So we can mention that is past guest. You can mention that. Double J. It's a fan favorite. First actually got me hand washing much better the last time she was on the show because I think her myth was about hand washing, about how long you actually.
Starting point is 00:09:01 Yeah, that's right. And that was months before. So in a way, i owe her my life i mean maybe she started this whole thing just so that she could uh be right about get her be right about that wouldn't put it past her jackie michelle all right well ben we're gonna get to know you a little bit better in a moment first we're gonna tell our listeners uh what we're talking about today we're talking about the new spawn of grimes and uh her boyfriend uh yeah i don't i don't know how we're pronouncing the name it's uh it's it's joey yeah is it joey that's anthony i think isn Anthony? Is it really Anthony? Oh, God.
Starting point is 00:09:45 That's so amazing. I hope it's Anthony. We're going to talk about that. We're going to talk about giant killer hornets. We're going to talk about Trump saying we're safe to work, aka saying working people are expendable. We're going to talk about skin hunger. Hunger for human skin. It's delicious. working people are expendable. We're going to talk about skin hunger. Hunger
Starting point is 00:10:05 for human skin. It's delicious and crispy when prepared correctly. We're going to talk about what recipes people are searching, Wendy's being out of meat, and Demolition Man.
Starting point is 00:10:22 J.M. McNabb, our writer, re-watched it for us so we wouldn't have to. And apparently it's kind of a eerie rewatch right now. But first, Ben, we like to ask our guests, what is something from your search history that is revealing about who you are? My most recent Google search history is John Ratcliffe, who is the new nominee to head all of Trump's intelligence. And they just found out that he follows a whole bunch of conspiracy accounts on Twitter,
Starting point is 00:10:52 like QAnon and shit, even where he's like one of two followers. So he likes to follow bots and he's going to run our intelligence. Bot enthusiast. Bot for bots. Botanist. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:06 Now that the world is teetering on the brink of just all out societal breakdown, let's bring in the guy who believes in Q. Well, that's what you need, I think, to work for the president is you have to be able to reject reality just in the blink of an eye. So I think that's now the only prerequisite to work in the White House. How willing are you to shapeshift in your mind
Starting point is 00:11:31 to adapt to whatever narrative you need to be true for your ego? Now I kind of feel like Q would have been a better name for the musk baby. Q musk? Q musk. Q musk. If Q musk, that's fun. And Musk. Ooh. Q Musk. Q Musk. Q Musk. If Q Musk,
Starting point is 00:11:46 that's fun. And he musk. Isn't that the meanest thing a parent can do to their child is like name them a pun? Right. That's so horrible. I knew a kid named Justin Case when I was in elementary school. That's so mean. Did you really?
Starting point is 00:12:00 Yeah. Justin C-A-I-S-S-E. How horrible. There was a kid at my summer camp whose name was Harley Davidson, but his dad's name was David Davidson, and so he could say that he is also Harley David's son. Whoa. And it was like this three-level thing where I was like, I don't know why you introduced yourself like this, bro. I'm just trying to get some fucking cream of wheat in this cafeteria line
Starting point is 00:12:29 he like gave you the dissertation when you're like hey miles what it's like okay well here's what you gotta understand it was a kid it was a kid in his bunk it was like that thing where like i only knew one other kid at this camp and i was like hey what's going on and you're like are they weird too and he's like there's this kid named harley davidson but he's david's and like he was saying it to me as if that was the thing he shared when like all everyone's meeting each other the first night i was gonna say if that's your life you never need to develop a personality really just just say that just say that every time your name yeah yeah it's like being tall you never have to develop a personality you just yeah uh fuck you tall people uh ben what is what is uh something you think is underrated i think uh underrated is knowing how the government works civics education
Starting point is 00:13:24 is wildly underrated. And that's kind of something important to you. It's something very important to me. Well, last week, they do this evaluation, this study, the Department of Education every four years, and they basically test all the eighth graders in the country to see how good they are at different subjects. And for 20 years running, eighth graders, only less than a quarter of them are proficient in civics.
Starting point is 00:13:49 So 24% over the course of the last 20 years have been consistently proficient in civics. So think of all the people who are now of voting age who don't understand how the government works. And that's a lot of people. It's almost like it's by design or something it is then you don't think it is then you don't know how to properly ascertain or diagnose a problem within the guy i don't know whatever i could be on some weird shit or something we gotta make i think you're kind of right on the money actually i mean we used to have these classes in the 60s and 50s and 60s people took classes like uh foundations of democracy and civics and American
Starting point is 00:14:25 government. And then there are all these protests. And they led to the Civil Rights Act and the Voting Rights Act and the 26th Amendment, allowing 18-year-olds to vote after the Vietnam War. And then I think people were like, it's too much. So we cut it back. And now we don't have those classes anymore. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:41 Now it's just like a history class that's full of bad info. Yeah. Yeah. Textbooks written by friends of the board yep exactly do you think it is actually like have people looked into that is was there an actual like by design we shift money away from education i'm sure i'm sure it's hard to like trace that back but um it's hard to trace that back but there is there is this sort of i've been researching it a lot i can't find a direct cause in terms of like why after the 1960s we stopped teaching this or how quickly but specifically in the last 10 years there have been a couple really shitty policies that made it fall
Starting point is 00:15:22 even further down in terms of like priorities. So in 2002, No Child Left Behind basically gave all this money to states if they, you know, increased scores in math and reading. And so all these other subjects became less of a priority. And then Common Core in 2010, basically the same deal. So today, only eight states require a year of government or civics education at some point between kindergarten and 12th grade. So you have been researching all this stuff because you knew you were coming on Daily Zeitgeist. That's exactly right. No, I mean, this is something that is a passion of mine and is kind of tied into the work I've been doing.
Starting point is 00:15:56 But I think this is something, you know, when you're in the middle of a pandemic and you're like, who the fuck has the power to do what? It's helpful to know, you know, where I can put pressure on to get what I want. You know, it's sort of, it does feel like it's by design that we don't know this stuff. Right. Absolutely. I mean, I think the one way you just look at how the education's been defunded
Starting point is 00:16:19 is you just look at the budgets every year and you say, okay, it got slashed this year and what got an increase and you can start to see like i mean that's like the only sort of raw way to look at it every year to see like you know one of the last budgets devos and trump were proposing was gonna like slash education like seven billion or some shit right and also having somebody who wants to do who is the head of a department that they don't want to exist. Like having somebody running the Department of Education who doesn't want that department to exist is a pretty big sign. It's like, yeah, so in charge of the DEA
Starting point is 00:16:53 is now Scarface. And you're like, what? And you have a book about this, right, Ben, that you just published? I do, yeah. It's called Oh My God, What the Fuck Does the Constitution Actually Say? And it's basically a normal sort of language tone translation paraphrase of the constitution so that we don't all have to parse through this weird old english
Starting point is 00:17:14 that's hard to understand and we can just get the underlying information in sort of a normal you know direct tone right and are you do you tackle like are you gonna do you tackle, like, are you going to finally tell me, like, how I can tell a cop to fuck off because I'm a sovereign citizen? I mean, yeah. I mean, yes, absolutely. You know, basically, that's the whole idea of the Fourth Amendment is that shit, like, stop and frisk. And, you know, you have to have a quote unquote reasonable idea. I mean, it's been really interesting to see, you know, Bloomberg and the idea that he wouldn't get any pushback for something that is clearly unconstitutional. I mean, there are all these rights that we need to know that we don't necessarily know and that are constantly taken advantage of in many ways. So yes, the answer is
Starting point is 00:17:58 yes. We have rights that we don't know are being violated and are brought up in a system that tells us about our rights only one year through the whole process typically it's the very last year where you could give a fuck about anything anyone's telling you because i feel like most people get like their heart like their government class or whatever senior year of high school or at least in california it was like that so a lot of the government class yeah yeah i took oh i didn't get i had ap government and but the civics class was like very relaxed oh let me tell you something did not pass that ap test you want to know why because i'm in fucking no it's senior year and i don't give
Starting point is 00:18:36 a fuck anymore so half the time i was i was literally getting kicked out of my ap government class for farting too much like out loud and disrupting the class. That's where my head was when they're telling me about inalienable rights and shit like that. I took the only history, well, I took a history class every year, but I did the IB classes where you just- IBS?
Starting point is 00:19:00 Yeah, where they teach you about your butt. I took a two-year class on like the history of russian communism and then i never learned what happened quote-unquote past the civil war in the u.s i got some big old blind spots whoa yeah they didn't even tell us what happened in the civil war i don't even know it was a cliffhanger who won i was like i gotta be honest i don't know how the civil war ended it It's not over, man. Right. And you're like, and based on what I'm seeing now, I think the South won.
Starting point is 00:19:30 Yeah. There are so many studies that are terrifying because there are, I mean, we joke about this, but there are thousands upon thousands of students today who think that the outcome is way different than it actually was or couldn't even tell you who won the Civil War. I mean, these textbooks, I have no idea what the fuck is being distributed throughout this country. States, right.
Starting point is 00:19:50 It's about the economy. Yeah, it was just an economic disagreement and a war of Northern aggression. That's it. Miles, I love that you had a moment in school where your two different career paths met in class. It was a government class, and you went into government immediately after school, and then you got kicked out for farting, which is hilarious,
Starting point is 00:20:18 and you did leave government to go into comedy. So just an interesting preview of your adult life. That's why I bring these truths to you, Jack, so you can help me parse through them. What is something
Starting point is 00:20:34 you think is overrated, Ben? National polls for president. They don't matter. They don't. And yet I'm addicted
Starting point is 00:20:44 to them. We are. Why don't they matter? We are. Why don't they matter? Because we don't matter. They don't. And yet I'm addicted to them. We are. Why don't they matter? We are. Why don't they matter? Because we don't vote nationally for president. We vote with our state. So it's great that somebody gets the highest percentage in a national poll,
Starting point is 00:20:57 but it's not of any bearing, really, on how we vote. And I think it's just media companies wanting to addict people to like a horse race and being oh this person is 10 points ahead oh now they're down four point i mean it's just basically a way to get us to pay attention to you know shit to sell ads and i think that we should just scrap all national polls for president and pay attention to state-specific polls because I think that would be more helpful. Yeah. Yeah, pollsters are... I still love to send myself on a downward stress and depression spiral by watching Trump's approval ratings
Starting point is 00:21:35 stay stable as he completely just destroys our country. Yeah. That's just how I like to burn my calories then but those like public opinion political research strategy firms that you know get tons of money from everybody from you know the parties themselves to lobbyists and industries like it's such a fucking racket that like when i like there when i used to work in politics like i've i saw like one of the you know pretty significant pollsters for the for the democratic party like at work and i was like how much are we paying for this like because like i mean like that our clients were like wanted to
Starting point is 00:22:17 use this person and i was like trying to doing the math i'm like this is the most like lame focus group i've ever seen that wouldn't even if i saw this i'm like i wouldn't trust what's happening in here half the people are checked out and are just like there's there yeah there's so many i think pieces to the polling that we don't see too that at times you're just sort of like sometimes people look like they're just agreeing with what other people are saying in a room when you have like focus groups i get phone polling works much different but like when people begin to do those sorts of research, it's very it's fun to see. But also you get to see a lot of people make money.
Starting point is 00:22:50 Focus groups can be so bunk, too, because it's just like usually it's like just people who like need money quickly and they'll answer. However, is the easiest way to get out of the room. Like I did focus groups in college and I was just like, I don't know. I just know I get fifty dollars at the end of this. I'm not trying to get into a the room. I did focus groups in college, and I was just like, I don't know. I just know I get $50 at the end of this. I'm not trying to get into a conversation with anybody. Do you like chips? I'm like, I love chips. If you just say yes to everything,
Starting point is 00:23:15 you can get out of the room very quickly. Right, and it's also like you can see, like I've done focus groups with renewable energy, and it'll be like in a city like Pasadena, which, you know, has like a mix of conservative and liberal people. But if the blend is off in the room and there's a majority of conservative or liberal, most people aren't going to want to be like an outlier in that group setting. So your results just be like, yeah, these people basically agree with what we're saying. And you're just like, that's not nuanced enough. But anyway. Yeah, you're subject to that. Yeah, focus groups are a nightmare. I mean, you're subject to like the whims of the person running them. But also, yeah, peer pressure plays a factor. And to be
Starting point is 00:23:57 honest, like, I kind of wish national polls did matter. I don't personally support the electoral college. I think it's bullshit and it's unfair, and we should have a national popular vote for president and make things more fair, but the system that we have now, it's just sort of become a way, these polls are just a way for news organizations to addict boomers to tuning in
Starting point is 00:24:17 every hour. Hey, and millennials. And millennials. It's not just boomers. Finally, what is a myth? What's something people think is true, you know, to be false or vice versa? Many people think that we have the right to vote for president and we don't.
Starting point is 00:24:35 We don't have the right to vote for president. It's up to our states to let us vote for president. Basically, they can decide how the electors were chosen. And for the first hundred years of this country, we didn't vote for president, basically they can decide how the electors were chosen. And for the first hundred years of this country, we didn't vote for president. State legislatures decided how they wanted to pick the electors and they did that. It's only been since 1880 that we've actually been allowed by our states to vote for president. And what makes me very concerned right now is that in the middle of a pandemic, as we are changing how we vote and, you know, talking about voting by mail, there isn't anything to stop states from taking that right away and saying, well, we're going to let the legislature do it. I mean, it would lead to massive protests and basically an uprising, but we don't actually have the right to vote for president and citizens.
Starting point is 00:25:20 That sucks. Comforting. Yeah. You'd think that they'd be more out there with that one. They're like, just so you know, you actually don't have the right to vote, so let's fucking chill. It sounds like a nice thing to save
Starting point is 00:25:32 until the very last second to tell everybody. Yeah, yoink. They're like, well, we slipped and we dropped all the envelopes into a fire, but the good news is you never had the right to vote to begin with. Yeah, so don't worry about it anyway. all right guys let's take a quick break and we'll be right back this summer the nation watched as the republican nominee for president was the target of two assassination attempts separated separated by two months.
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Starting point is 00:30:46 i was just gonna make that same comparison oh my god clear one-to-one i don't know what you're talking about do you think this baby is gonna grow up and do something terrible my guess is yes i don't know it could be, I've met the sons of very famous men. Rich people. Yeah, and they're typically never trying to ever be like their dads at all. Like every son of a comedian or actor or athlete that I've ever met, they're all very much trying to just not be the thing their dad is known for. I think the best case scenario for this is that this child is very boring
Starting point is 00:31:28 and like is only interested in the most boring shit ever. And it's just a dull, dull, dull kid. I hope this is the next James Blake. I think that's the best case scenario for all of them. Yeah, that's true.
Starting point is 00:31:40 Yeah. For all of us. Yeah. I just want to see this kid at a piano go sip just all that pain out there. You know what I mean? And we're just like, I don't know, ex-Archangel, whatever the fuck this kid's name is, Anthony, really just made me feel something.
Starting point is 00:31:56 Between this and the Amanda Palmer, Neil Gaiman divorce news, you're just like, oh, the messiest couples are coming out to play this week, and I'm exhausted. What is that? It's a whole, the thing is, I like Neil Gaiman. I think he's a great writer.
Starting point is 00:32:12 Helped you get back on Twitter, I believe. Twice. Twice, okay. For some reason. Love that, appreciate that. Yeah, so he, for a very, for I think almost 10 years, he's been married to a musician who I really liked in college. And then I think I kind of grew up.
Starting point is 00:32:28 But her name's Amanda Palmer. I liked her music in college a lot. She's about, she's had a lot of, I mean, if you Google Amanda Palmer controversy, there's, she's done some shit where like, just kind of like shady, like not paying her opening acts. Like she's had a lot of missteps over
Starting point is 00:32:46 the years uh labor wise but has this like radical honesty vibe that she can kind of slither out of anything um and so anyways they broke up and amanda so she's radical honesty which basically means she shares a lot of information with uh about her life without checking with people first and so i guess it's she and neil gaiman i don't know what the situation is i don't know whatever they were poly they broke up she's quarantining with their kid in new zealand he went back to the uk and then i i think it seems like just based on the vibe of the tweets they've been exchanging that they neil gaiman was assuming we're not going to talk about this and then Amanda Palmer wrote about it on her Patreon
Starting point is 00:33:29 blog. That's not all makes sense. As I searched, she likes to use the hard R N word. Okay, so she has a troubled past. She's done some fucked up. It's a mess. This tweet though is what i was talking about earlier
Starting point is 00:33:45 because i didn't know what it meant but it just made me laugh because i don't know what it means it said amanda palmer divorcing neil gaiman on patreon is tiger king for ukulele goths yes yes i saw that too there's uh it's like it's annoying from so many angles my my tweet my favorite tweet that i saw about it i'll cite it later but it was like, can't wait to see Helen and Bonham Carter play the vampire that Neil Gaiman inevitably writes a book about about his divorce with Amanda Palmer. There's going to be some exhausting miniseries
Starting point is 00:34:15 about this whole thing. I don't know. It's just the most exhausting couples are coming out to play this week. Well, shout out to Anthony. What does her music sound like? If you had to compare it to somebody. It's like performance art music.
Starting point is 00:34:31 It's like singing about important issues, not very well. I'm sure someone will come for me for that. But I was into that shit in college. And then I was like was like wait this woman is like maybe not maybe not so great because i were actually i was in college and during that whole scandal where she didn't pay anyone she paid she was like oh i'm looking for opening acts for my national tour and she had like raised a million dollars on kickstarter for it and she was just
Starting point is 00:35:02 like yeah i pay in beer and hugs. And I was like, I don't know if I fuck with this person. So, you know, a messy week. I had not heard of her before this divorce story, but she sounds almost... Hopefully this is a boon for her. Everything you've said about her makes her sound like Trump.
Starting point is 00:35:24 She's like radical honesty and can get out of anything. Hard R N word. Doesn't pay anybody. Like that's all like the things Trump is most famous for. It's very presidential. I remember her as being one of the first artists that really like went full on the independent route where she was basically it was like a few years after everyone was like
Starting point is 00:35:50 the RIAA was like suing everyone's grandma for you know downloading Frank Sinatra on Napster and people were uh um saying that you know record labels are gonna be here forever and it's gonna be you know it's it's still the future and she was like no I'm good I can do it with like you know a few hundred fans I'll just sell my music directly and make money on streaming and touring and i feel like she was i mean i didn't know any of this other shit i mean she sounds like a nightmare but um this this stuff like i guess economically she was you know kind of a ahead of the curve i guess visionary economically she she definitely like she was like i think the first person to raise a million dollars on Kickstarter.
Starting point is 00:36:25 She was early to the Patreon wave. But she does give off those narcissism vibes and those how-can-I-possibly-do-something-wrong-if-I'm-radically-honest vibes. So, you know, don't Google her. Save your time. Your time is valuable. you don't need to google amanda palmer at this time yeah jack tell people what they should be googling uh let's google giant killer hornets instead um this is this is something that so i we wrote about this back in 2008 it cracked that there are things in Japan called
Starting point is 00:37:06 giant hornets that kill 40 people a year sometimes with just horrible painful stings as their name suggests like giant they're the size
Starting point is 00:37:22 of like a thumb they are like 3 to 4 times the size of like a bumblebee. And bumblebees already look like they shouldn't be able to fly because they're so big. These are just like they're somewhere between a bee and a bird. And they are fucking so metal. So yeah, they can sting through a beekeeper uniform. they are fucking so metal like they so yeah they can sting through a
Starting point is 00:37:48 beekeeper uniform they have like armor piercing stings so the weird thing is it really has the vibe of like the famous media panic of the African killer bees that were supposed to like invade America from the south
Starting point is 00:38:03 and just take take over our country. It's probably going to end up being overblown. At the same time, these are real, and all the details about them are details from a horror movie. Was the reason it came back was because of that clip All the details about them are details from a horror movie. Was the reason it came back was because of that clip of the mouse getting stung to death by the hornets? Because this has been a thing on the internet for a while, whether it's articles about it or that one clip, or most people, probably their first interaction is that video where
Starting point is 00:38:42 they go into a beehive and just- And just there's body parts flying everywhere. It's fucked. Just completely annihilate it. Well, no, Miles. So the reason this is back, unfortunately, is because in Canada and Washington, beekeepers were finding their hives of bees with all their bees having their heads ripped off. And they were like, oh, that's not good. That means that we might have giant Japanese
Starting point is 00:39:16 hornets in America. And sure enough, a couple were spotted. And the way that they're talking, like the insectologists, that's not the name, but the people who pay attention to insects were like, yeah, so we're probably going to be okay. All we need to do is find these giant hornets, knock them out, put electronic collars around them, follow them back to their underground hive. No. Yeah, follow them back to their underground hive. No. Yeah, follow them back to their underground hive and destroy their colony. It's like... I want to... This sounds like a good movie.
Starting point is 00:39:53 Sign me up. They're so big. Yeah, no. I just like... I still can't get over their size. Like just the... You could just... They're like half the size of a palm.
Starting point is 00:40:04 Yeah. Yeah. i didn't realize our bees heads are falling off that's all i think of is these big poor beekeepers literally this is literally from the cnn report beekeepers have reported piles of dead bees with their heads ripped off i can't like that's horrifying they horrifying. Even reading that first report where I'm like, oh, this is a little dramatic, where it's like getting stung by this hornet feels like a hot metal being injected into your veins. I'm like, what?
Starting point is 00:40:36 No, we've all been there. I know. I can't even imagine. I've never been in a Saw movie. I don't know what that feels like. Right. Ben, are you a very outdoorsy person? Oh, I was.
Starting point is 00:40:52 I can't stop thinking. I'm not a particularly religious person. I'm like bare minimum Jew, but I feel like, from what I remember of the 10 plagues, we're 20 in with uh deadly disease and some version of locust so i'm sort of looking at the rest of the bingo card wondering what's next oh yeah well i like bare minimum jew as the uh as the uh an alternate variant on the bear Jew from Inglorious Bastards. Bear minimum Jew. Well, yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:27 If these are the plagues in the words of the Passover song, Dayenu, it would have been enough. This is enough. So if they want to call the plagues off now. We're good. I'm good here. We're good. Message received.
Starting point is 00:41:43 Don't try to take them out yourself if you see them, said entomologist Chris Looney. That is a fucking line from Jaws. That is a line from a horror movie. Don't try to take them out yourself. And in this film, inevitably, there's a small B plot, or just a scene where you see these re renegade assholes who are drunk who are like man we're gonna go fucking kill those hornets ourselves yeah and they're absolutely
Starting point is 00:42:10 destroyed by them yes um don't be surprised if you see small children just being carried away uh and i guess you will be able to see the the giant hornet carrying them um what anyways go ahead no i'm like is there any like is there any rhyme or reason like that someone could like their tips or it's like you probably don't want to be in this area or around this shit they're just sort of like hey bro i don't know but if you see him fucking run for your life is that just so fortunately uh and just kidding none of the there's not a single detail on this that is fortunate. So like with a bee, like there's a big old honeycomb hive that like you see hang from a tree and you can like hear them.
Starting point is 00:42:56 These things burrow underground. So you can just like be walking around the ground and step into a nest of these and then you're fucked. So, yeah. Oh, my. There's just like no good news on the giant killer Japanese hornet front. So, yeah, one wrong step and you could descend into waspy hell. Yeah, maybe the Bible was like onto something.
Starting point is 00:43:26 Yeah. This is the phase right now. This is my hot take today. Maybe they were onto something with that Bible. I don't know. I don't know, dude. Maybe they... I'm just gonna throw it out there. Alright, guys, let's take a quick break. Jamie, you have to leave us. It has been a pleasure having you for these two
Starting point is 00:43:42 acts. I gotta go breastfeed Elon Musk's baby. Okay. Good luck. Because Grimes' breasts are dry. Well, no, Grimes, she lactates like electricity. It's bad. Oh, it's plasma. It's dangerous for the baby. It's plasma.
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Starting point is 00:47:56 Voila! You got straight away. I felt like I was living in North Korea, but worse, if that's possible. Listen to Spiraled on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back, and we're starting to hear about something called skin hunger, and that's not just me
Starting point is 00:48:22 when I order KFC. Am I right, guys? The skin is delicious. No, I actually noticed this in... So I was talking about that New York Times article, the Frank Bruni column, where he was interviewing this COVID-19... This woman who had predicted COVID-19.
Starting point is 00:48:44 And it ends with her just being like like it's all just a very like matter of fact she's an expert she's giving these really like intelligent interesting decisive takes and then that uh interview ends with her just being like i really want to hug someone i i just need a hug for three sentences just talking about how badly she wants to hug someone. She's like, even if it was just for five seconds, I just want to hug someone. Yeah, I don't know. It's a real thing that people are going through for sure. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:17 I think also just we're lucky enough to be sheltering with a partner. So it's a very different experience and like with my single friends and like other like co-workers i've had in the past i've caught up with the ones who are isolating alone like it's really it's like you said it's really hard and it's boils down to like just just some kind of touch and a lot of this whole idea of skin hunger now is you know a lot of experts like this is another lot of this whole idea of skin hunger now is, you know, a lot of experts like this is another part of this whole social distancing thing we also have to talk about because it has effects overall because, you know, we're all social animals. So we need
Starting point is 00:49:54 that touch. We need that feeling of like feedback of community from other people around us. Like it's the same reason why babies who are in neonatal intensive care like need like skin contact and skin contact so vital for children um and what they're they're you know they're just wanting to let people know like yes this is very normal uh but it's also something that we need to take care of ourselves because it's hard to do you know if you don't have someone around so you know the the problem is we're in an era where like video and audio we can beam fucking anywhere in an instant right but the haptic you know the touch senses and things like that we're just absolutely there's just nothing for that um so you know we're all i think a lot of people are trying to start struggling a bit to try and feel like in their own bodies a bit
Starting point is 00:50:43 and get that sort of stimulation. And this is something that there was even like, there's like a business, and I've read articles about this, I think even last year that there's like, I don't know if it's an app or it's just people on Craigslist, but like people just like requesting someone to cuddle. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:00 Like these like cuddle opportunities, cuddle parties. Bag It Cracked, Robert Evans interviewed people who had like started a whole business yeah like these like cuddle opportunities cuddle parties bag it cracked uh robert evans interviewed uh people who had like started a whole business based on cuddle parties and it was like they had the cuddle party circuit and it was all like there were all these rules to like keep it just you know so that strangers were all just like taking care of their skin hunger in this new reality where we don't have a lot of people to interact with like physically uh because we're all you know we were already interacting over phones and you know now like even more so i did yeah i was just thinking about like i think like i feel like there's people at the grocery store who have i would say hungry
Starting point is 00:51:47 eyes oh great song q patrick swayze i feel like there's just like that need and it's not necessarily a sexual thing but it's like a human contact thing where people are just like more likely to like make eye contact with you and like acknowledge you just because they're there's just like a profound loneliness oh yeah and like absence of human contact i've never said hello to so many people i pass on the street ever in my fucking life i've never had so many older white people go out of their way to say hello to me in my fucking life it's just yeah i think we all feel it man like we all we all know we're doing what's best by staying inside but then when you go out it's almost kind of like hey man cool like ah yeah and it's gonna be weird because there's
Starting point is 00:52:41 going like i think people are ready for this release to happen where it's like, and now the quarantine's over and we can all go out and hug each other and go to cuddle parties. And it's like that isn't going to happen until there's a vaccine. And for the next couple of years, it's just going to be a process of there's going to be an process of like, you know, there's going to be an uptick in your community and then like the hospitals will get overwhelmed and we'll have to go back to social distancing for a little while. And then the, you know,
Starting point is 00:53:17 virus rate will go down and then we'll go back out there. And it's just going to be, there's not going to be that satisfying release, unfortunately. Yeah. In China though, they're saying there's this thing, it's like a phenomenon that consumer analysts are saying was called revenge spending. That was happening because as things are being eased, a lot of people are trying to spend a lot more money right away. They've just been sort of cooped up. and that's been one way people have been releasing their anxiety rather than like traveling so much it's just been happening through like consumption um so i think yeah whatever it is we're all gonna find our way to try and feel normal but like that thing even you say about touch like there's even studies about
Starting point is 00:53:59 how like getting a pat on your back before a task, like had a, an effect on people's performance to like something like that. And so, you know, they say, obviously a pet helps if you have a pet. Great. Because, you know,
Starting point is 00:54:12 being able to hold something, there's warmth from it. You can massage it. And they, you know, there's studies that say massage is just as pleasurable for the person applying the massage as the same person receiving it. And then exercise just so you can get your feet
Starting point is 00:54:25 circulating a bit you know fucking massage your scalp maybe put some lotion on like just do you know just love on yourself yeah touching yourself i feel like there's something like that doesn't count i feel like yeah as much as like i i just yes i i want people who are you know quarantining by themselves to have like some sort of outlet but at the same time that like we should find a better uh solution for them i mean just have like uh that sucks man if we can sooner find people who have like antibodies just have like the pro hug squad to be like real bro you got yeah like i'm not don't worry about me man the hug immunes yeah yeah the hug immunes yeah inevitably there will be a documentary about
Starting point is 00:55:10 those heroes that group of heroes but yeah i mean the thing you were just talking about about the pat on the back like that is we i've talked about it before but there's a study that shows that nba teams that touch do better and that's why you see all the NBA players touch each other's hands. It's not even like giving a five. They're literally touching hands, like they're passing a charge from one person to the other just before a free throw or at a timeout or something like that. It's like that improves performance.
Starting point is 00:55:42 That improves camaraderie. And just think of the poor NBA teams, not touch out there, not having anybody to touch hands with. Just that one creepy coach was right, huh? Yeah, exactly. Yeah, the guy who kept hitting you on the butt and being like, good hustle out there. And you're like, bro, I don't even play for this team.
Starting point is 00:56:04 What are you talking about bro i'm bro i'm the uncle of the kid on the field just love love love the commitment love the hustle and you're a security guard the guy uh did we cover the guy who would jump on people's backs and give them like he wanted to get piggyback rides from people so he would like that was his kink. And so he would go to high school sporting events and like when the people were celebrating, he would run up and jump on their back. And it was because. Oh, my God. It was because that was his kink. And so it's a very dark story.
Starting point is 00:56:51 But he eventually got arrested. Oh, but he was sexually aroused hopping on those backpacks. I don't know if he was sexually aroused, but I think people were creeped out enough. I mean, that sounds like a like a really terrible sketch idea like someone to be right yeah dude and a guy like he loves it so he like cruises sporting events to find people yeah people imagine you like hit a game-winning shot and your teammates are celebrating with you
Starting point is 00:57:23 and then like someone's on your back and you turn around and it's a stranger you're like yeah yeah yeah you're gonna see a lot of high schools like start to like throw the final pass and like miss the final shot on purpose for the safety of their fellow comrades they just like look off to the side and the guy's licking his lips and he's like he only likes victory they're like but he actually becomes like a really good like sabermetrics analyst because he's like finding he's identifying teams that have a high propensity for like clutch wins yeah loves a game seven loves a game seven where did all that wasted oxygen go i know let's talk about the recipes that people are searching for ben are you cooking at all i know you said that uh jackie was cooking and you were uh doing a little bit of stuff have you been googling any recipes
Starting point is 00:58:21 looking up any any new uh foods that you're preparing? I mean, I'm going to start, and I'm not just saying this because the question has been posed to me, but this was something I've been thinking about these last few days to really expand my palate and my contributions to this household. It is intimidating, though, to be living with somebody who is such a skilled cook because I feel like it's always going to be put up against that. And I just have to really speed up my expertise in a, in a short amount of time to compete. Yeah. Does she, does she like grade you on a curve or is she like, really, this is, this is, this is how you're going to prepare chicken? We're starting, we're starting,
Starting point is 00:59:00 I'm getting accolades for, for effort and initiative at all, which sort of feels like a little pedantic, but it's fine. I'll take what I can get. She's a fine Texan woman. I can't see her giving you the smoke right away. It's like the stuff that she makes, and I'm four months in, five months into being vegan, and this has been an interesting adjustment period.
Starting point is 00:59:21 But the food that she makes is like, I mean, like everything from tacos to pizza it's i i if i had known years ago that vegan food or i guess the word is plant-based now uh to taste like this i would have not made jokes about it i wouldn't have had a problem with it i would have been like a dumb idiot about it because it's truly it is the amount and maybe it's because we live in los angeles and maybe it's we have access to great ingredients and great restaurants but it is it is i i just realized i guess this quarantine is teaching me the more i eat of this food like how much anti-vegan propaganda and like jokes and shit that i just accepted my entire life whereas in reality it's like no you can make some pretty
Starting point is 01:00:00 amazing delicious shit and all the stuff that like approximates what you were eating before yeah everyone needs that moment where they can humble themselves eating a plant-based meal and you're like uh that was so fucking good and yeah let go of my like caveman idea of like what food is because western media told me i eat the fucking meat to feel like a fucking man. Love meat though. I love plant based food. The best stuffing I ever had was like a walnut mushroom stuffing like
Starting point is 01:00:35 Thanksgiving that we had with like my sister's sophisticated vegan friends. I was like Christ here we go. They're going to push this vegan food on me but that was my moment when I was like oh christ here we go yeah they're gonna push this vegan food on me but that that was my moment when i was like oh this is better than any thanksgiving food that i've ever had the like they fucking crushed it so hard and for people who might be a little weary try and find good junk food vegan junk food because that is a great gateway food to open your eyes.
Starting point is 01:01:05 You'd be like, damn, like, cause you know, it doesn't, it's not always like healthy. Like you're drinking a raindrop with one grain of place. No, it's fucking, there's some, the junk food is probably some of my favorite. That one Mexican spot we go to. What's a good junk food that they make? Remember that wet burrito we'd have?
Starting point is 01:01:22 Oh yeah. That's nearest near the office. I don't want to say exactly, but it's out here in Los Angeles and they have a wet burrito we'd have? Oh, yeah. That's near the office. I don't want to say exactly, but it's out here in Los Angeles. And they have a wet burrito that I would have told you has all kinds of dairy in it. But we digress. The top recipes. We do digress. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:36 So let's talk about the top things people are searching for. Oh, by the way, speaking of Texas, I started making huevos rancheros with american cheese and that's like that that i admit took it from mexican to tex-mex in my mind i was like yeah that's a good to yeah or you might catch somebody's hands in the wrong kitchen if you came out with some i was just out i was out of the uh shredded cheese that we usually use. Got it. But yeah, the thing that's interesting is the over the most popular recipe overall in the United States overall is drum roll banana bread. I feel I have myself had banana bread already during this quarantine. I've been the recipient of banana bread. I don't know how many else have made it.
Starting point is 01:02:23 I haven't. I haven't had any banana bread. Oh, well, pardon us. Ben, where are you from originally? What state are you from? I want to tell you your state's most searched item. I was born in Washington, D.C., and I lived there for seven or eight years,
Starting point is 01:02:37 and then I grew up in Maryland. Oh, okay. What part of Maryland? In Bethesda. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah. Her Majesty's from Tacoma Park. Oh, nice.
Starting point is 01:02:46 Maryland, top recipe there, salmon. This is another thing it's been very common there's like a few things that are through lines I've seen like bread is like a very popular place like in New England like Maine uh Massachusetts I think New Hampshire everyone was like searching bread but then other places were a lot of places were searching salmon. New York, the most searched recipe. It makes sense because it's the last 30 days and Passover just happened. Haroset for your Passover, your Seder plate.
Starting point is 01:03:13 Both Carolinas searched for pound cake. I must know because I know we have North and South CAC site gang. What's going on? What am I missing? Do I need to know how to make this? It's a lot of bread. It feels like a very weird,
Starting point is 01:03:27 like depression chic move. I don't know. With all this talk about this being a new depression and like bread lines, like why would people, we have so many food options. Why would people go? And it's like, no, I guess, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:03:39 This is like comforting for people. Yeah. New Mexico, they searched toward the highest search recipe, tortillas. Florida, margarita. Yeah, dude. That checks out 100%. And California's was snickerdoodle, which seems very specific.
Starting point is 01:03:58 That's the one result that has me kind of scratching my head about this whole thing. And I'm like, really? Yeah. of scratching my head about this whole thing and i'm like really yeah i i do wonder like i on on things where they isolate different states like top search i feel like a lot of the times they're doing something statistically to like add variety i feel like a lot of states would have the same recipe if you didn't like tweak it in somewhere yeah well 20 were just lurking up hamburger or hamburger meat which i'm was curious like what someone was trying to achieve by searching that like are they recipe right well that's what i mean like are they making their own blends of like
Starting point is 01:04:39 chuck and brisket and like what are they doing are they going that right wild on it or are they are they trying to figure out like how do you make a hamburger is this based on google searches what is the criteria okay through google i just imagine like people trying to get like you know it just feels like it's it's a big deal to get on any list these days just trying to get your pr out there i imagine like snickerdoodle somehow found their way to get on this list and yeah search yeah right big snickerdoodle all right and finally uh speaking of hamburger meat it turns out wendy's is is struggling they're out of beef yeah the the mistake some locations are yeah they made the mistake of uh of selling only fresh beef in their restaurants.
Starting point is 01:05:25 Bad move, assholes. Yeah. Because now that the domestic beef supply chain has been disrupted and because CEOs are unwilling to spend the money to properly protect their employees, Wendy's is having to cut beef from the menus at some of their restaurants. Which must be an awful feeling for people who
Starting point is 01:05:50 like when you have a fast food place you go to and it's been dependable and you pull up and that thing is not there. I don't wish that on anyone except Donald Trump. Yeah. What's his order at McDonald's?
Starting point is 01:06:07 It's like Big Mac. Big Macs. And then the other one's just like the good part of the pizza, which is just the cheese and toppings, not the bread part, which is so childish. But again, look, bottom line is you don't protect workers, you don't get beef. So.
Starting point is 01:06:20 Yes. Super producer Anna Hosnia is saying his order is filet. Oh fish. Huh? Damn weird choice. I wonder if he ever rocks the mix surf and turf. Yeah. Double quarter pounder with the filet inside. Well,
Starting point is 01:06:35 he's a man of taste. He is a man of taste. And that taste is sodium. Well, Ben, it has been a pleasure having you on The Daily Zeitgeist. Where can people find you and follow you? You can find me on Twitter and Instagram at ThatBenShian.
Starting point is 01:06:53 All right. And is there a tweet or some other work of social media you've been enjoying? Yes, I want to shout out this tweet by Allison Rosen. This is not coming true because it turns out that Kim Jong-un, as far as we know, did not die and was replaced by a body stunt double. But it says that if Kim Jong-un's sister takes over, North Korea will have a female leader before we do. Hope she's likable. Miles, where can people find you and what's tweet you've been enjoying oh you can find me twitter instagram playstation network miles of gray also on my other podcast
Starting point is 01:07:32 for 20 day fiance talking about 90 day fiance the the great show uh that's absolutely nourishing our trash souls uh some tweets that i like yes Yes. Let me allow me to scroll down. First one is from Sean Paul, Shana Paul. He was quote tweeting somebody who didn't even tag him and just said, Sean Paul did not have to go so hard in the early two thousands like that with like stank face emoji and the flame emoji. And he just comes back quote
Starting point is 01:08:05 tweet all caps i did okay thank you shauna paul um and then another one uh jack and i don't know if ben if you also loved i think you should leave now um but this is a great reference to that show uh this is from at claire lizzie uh claire claire lower uh where it's two images. The first one just says, Grimes gives birth, welcomes first child with Elon Musk. And then the next image is from that like baby beauty pageant sketch that they did on the show. And so it's the one that had like all the biker shit, the baby called Bart Harley Jarvis.
Starting point is 01:08:39 And then the captions just say, hard rock music playing, audience booing. Perfect. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. Some tweets I've been enjoying. Noah Garfinkel tweeted, the millennium has been fucking awful. Rhea Butcher tweeted, hell hath no fury like a white person mildly inconvenienced uh megan gailey tweeted i've done everything i can for j crew uh and
Starting point is 01:09:13 perfect uh they're going bankrupt and then lb hunk tears tweeted just a great name being a fuck rather than a marry or a kill is nothing to brag about it's the lowest commitment kill is the highest commitment which is why it's the biggest compliment yeah and then finally Mario girl
Starting point is 01:09:38 17 tweeted what's the matter baby you barely touched your Baja blast I got that sent to me quite a bit What's the matter, baby? You barely touched your Baja Blast. I got that sent to me quite a bit by Zeitgang, and I appreciate it. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, dailyzeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes,
Starting point is 01:10:03 where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode as well as the song we ride down on miles what's it going to be today uh this is a track from french artist um band but a melody melody's echo chamber uh and this track is called shirim s-h-i-r-i-m and her music's really dope, very, like, psych, pop, rocky, but really interesting production. So it's got a little, you know, got a hip tang to it. So check this one out from Melody's Echo Chamber. All right.
Starting point is 01:10:37 Well, The Daily Zeitgeist is a production of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. That's going to do it for this morning. We're going to ride out on that hip tang. My second favorite flavor of tang
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