The Daily Zeitgeist - Trump Goes Full 1984, WHAT DID YOU DO MILA KUNIS?!? 7.25.18
Episode Date: July 25, 2018In episode 197, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian Jamie Loftus (The Bechdel Cast) to discuss Tronc / Daily News Media Drama, Demi Lovato Update, Understanding the Cohen / Trump audio, the truth ab...out Almond 'milk,' Mila Kunis on Macaulay Culkin, new Netflix show 'Insatiable,' and more! Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Hello, the internet, and welcome to Season 41, Episode 3 of The Daily Zeitgeist.
For July 25th, 2018, my name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. West Virginia.
Jack O'Brien, take me home.
Country roads.
That is courtesy of Matt Burlingham on Twitter,
and I am thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray.
Here I go.
Here I go.
Here I go.
Again, Zeitgang, what's my weakness?
Jack O'Brien.
Chillin'.
Chillin'.
Miles, my business.
Yo, Gray, I look around and I couldn't believe this.
I swear.
I swear.
Jamie Loft is my witness.
Zeitgang had it going on with something kind of wicked.
Wicked.
Had to kick it.
Gonna end this AKA right here so we can start the show.
Thank you to at Pygmy Hippie Melissa Jordan for that.
That's a good one.
My blood pressure is through the roof right now.
That was insane.
Yo, this just came up on the Twitters.
And I was like, yo, they integrated Jamie Loftus into this AKA.
She's the guest.
Brilliant.
Boom. There it is. Hey, well, I guess I won't introduce ourus into this, a.k.a. she's the guest. Brilliant. Boom.
There it is.
Hey, well, I guess I won't introduce our guest.
Oh, shit.
My bad.
Jesus Christ.
Disregard.
Whatever you just heard is not what is happening.
Start it over.
Start the show.
What you're hearing is a lie.
Everything is a lie.
We are thrilled.
You really fricked yourself this time.
You really fricked yourself.
You self-cucked yourself.
Hey, we're thrilled to be joining our third seat by Lil Zam herself.
Jamie Loftus, how are you?
I'm good.
A.K.A. Ariana Grande.
A.K.A. Ariana Venti.
Yeah.
It's, you know, I'm just happy to be back home at the Hey Sluts, What's Up Network.
Yeah.
After a long trip out on the road.
World one tour.
It was eight whole days of magic.
I slept in five different airports wow
it was great i'm good at uh like curling up in a ball and making myself very small now do you go
under the seats or how where do you sleep when you're in an airport um it depends it's that
there's some where i'm like i'm just gonna find a corner and fall asleep on everything i own
there's other ones where i'm like i could'm just going to find a corner and fall asleep on everything I own. There's other ones where I'm like, I could slip underneath.
It depends on how high the armrest is.
Sometimes I can slip underneath it and then do a two-chair deal.
Depends.
Depends.
I met a woman when I was at a music festival.
Brag.
Thank you.
Amazing news.
This is at Outside Lands in the Bay Area, one of my favorite music festivals. Anyway, this woman, she said she carried around a dog bed with her, and she would sleep in a dog bed.
Oh, she could curl up that much?
Oh, that's great.
Yeah.
And she was like, it's easier to bring around than a sleeping bag.
I know it's just like the perfect circle for me to be full fetal and just chill on any surface.
I just put my little dog bed down.
And at first, I was like, what the fuck are you talking about?
Then she curled up in a dog bed.
I was like, okay, respect. She's like, no,
let me demo it for you. So maybe, you know,
we should work on some little Zam branded dog
beds for people to sleep in at airports.
There was a little, there was a real freak
on one of the Spirit Airlines, one of the
many Spirit Airlines flights I was on this
past week where there was this man who was
like, your neck looks tired. Do you want to borrow
my infinity scarf?
I was like, what?
Everyone on a Spirit Airlines
flight, first of all, is drunk when they
get on the plane. Right.
The only way to get through one of those.
Because, yeah, it's not guaranteed you're going to
land. And so, yeah, the guy
I was sitting next to, he was creepy
but not in the way you would expect
like he's just like your neck looks tired and i was like i'm um i'm fine and he's like yeah
do you want to borrow my infinity what is an infinity scarf it's like a circular like a tube
of fabric and he had a lot of them with him and there was no explanation offered as to why he had
multiple he's like yeah i got some extras. Because he was wearing two himself.
For an introductory price of $19.99.
You too.
You got any cash on you?
He's like, well, now that you've sullied my stock, you're going to have to buy that.
What an opening line, though.
Your neck looks tired.
I'd also be like, what are you, a fucking strangler?
Did he start reaching for your neck when he said that?
Yeah, is your neck firm?
Or what's going on with your neck?
Is it smooth or soft? Is it mushy?
You're like, oh, a strange man cannot be near my neck.
That is just the rules.
That is troubling.
Well, Jamie, we're going to get to know you even better than we already do.
But first, we're going to tell our listeners what they're in store for.
Today, we're going to talk about Tronk,
the company that just basically Infinity Wars-ed the daily news, just cut half the staff, made half of them disappear.
We're going to talk about Demi Lovato, who almost OD'd but was saved possibly by Narcan.
We're going to talk Mila Kunis.
Yes, don't laugh.
The very foreboding appearance on the Dax Shepard podcast.
We're going to talk about the Cohen tape.
We're going to talk about how the Trump administration is dealing with the difficulties caused by the tariff war.
We're going to talk also just a quick thing about the dairy farmers of the world who we keep bailing out and making sure that they stay living fat.
We're going to talk about Ivanka Trump's clothing line.
We're going to talk about Romanian hackers extorting restaurants via Yelp.
Zero one, zero one, zero one.
We got some special hacking news just for our guest.
We are going to talk about the Deadwood movie is happening, y'all.
And then we're going to talk about the series that we are all eagerly awaiting from Netflix, Insatiable.
But first, we'd like to ask our guest, Jamie, what's something from your search history?
Oh, this is something that has been filling my search history nonstop just so I can communicate with Miles.
The binary to text converter is in various phrases because I've been trying to look for better ones.
Some of them are slow.
So my search history is flooded with various binary converters so that Miles can place his Dunkin' Donuts orders with me before I arrive.
And so that's just various hacker searches.
I also looked up Ariana Grande's height because I wanted to make the argument that I could be two Ariana Grandes in a trench coat with a 40-pound horse tail that I stole.
So you did appear as Ariana Grande on Super Deluxe?
I did on an upcoming episode of Cheap Thrills.
And for people who follow you on social media,
you bore an uncanny resemblance to her in the photographs.
But yes, in person, I would imagine that you are probably twice as tall as her.
So much bigger.
She is 4'11".
She's 4'11", and you are 6'10".
And you are 9'10". yes i am so i'm that was really
fast math yeah i'm gigantic so uh no wait is that correct no i just like to say i was like hold on a
second um well actually no yeah i think i'm right reminds us all of that pre-911 world i get it man
um and we talked about this off air before.
And always in binary
because you've got to
keep those kind of
conversations encrypted.
We have to encrypt it.
Highly encrypted.
Yeah, and also you and
Miles are communicating
in ones and zeros
on Twitter.
Sometimes hexadecimal.
Okay.
Yeah, I mean,
it makes it up a little bit.
Right, because Jamie
is a hacker.
Stay encrypted.
We're polyglots.
We're all polyglots here.
And also for people
who think that this is an imposter on the microphone, because your voice does sound different.
I know, I sound husky today.
Are you afflicted?
Do you have some kind of sickness?
I got analog hacked.
Oh, wow.
I haven't figured out how to decrypt the common cold yet.
But people have been figuring it out.
I mean, I'll figure it out.
You had the reverse moment of Independence Day where Judd Hirsch was like, you're going to catch a cold.
And he's like, wait, what's that?
And like give the thing a virus.
It's like the most boring version of that.
That's where my brain is in 1996 or so,
whenever that was.
What is something you think is overrated?
Ooh, something I think is overrated is Tanya Harding.
I have to publicly renounce my standing of Tanya Harding.
I've loved her for years.
But I think I talked about it the last time I was here. I was going to go see a live screening of I, Tanya Harding. I've loved her for years. But I think I talked about it the last time I was here.
I was going to go see a live screening of I, Tanya,
where Tanya Harding was going to speak.
And not really surprisingly,
but just dots I hadn't connected myself,
Tanya Harding is an active Republican.
She knew her audience
and knew not to say that outright, but she said it in an interview
earlier this year that she would have voted for Donald Trump if she wasn't a felon, which is like
yikes on so many levels. But yeah, it was a bummer where, I mean, that is kind of the logical conclusion of the Tanya Harding story.
Like because she was kind of prevented from moving through the world and getting access to more education and all this stuff.
But yeah, she's a, you know, she's a, she's a MAGA lady and was basically up there all but actively saying like all lives matter.
And it just was a huge disappointment.
It was a real bummer and
I will preserve the version
of Tonya Harding in my head that I like
but just had to
realize that
she is not the person that I
hoped she'd become and so she
is overrated.
And you saw the movie what, like 14 times?
A million, yeah. I had Movie million. Yeah, I saw it.
I had MoviePass for one month, saw it nine times, unsubscribed from MoviePass.
Do you believe the narrative in the movie that she was uninvolved in the attack?
No, she did it.
I mean, she absolutely did it.
But that's kind of what I loved about her.
I like that she, you know.
Took things into her own hands.
Yeah, the scrappy, the young scrappy gal from an underprivileged
background narrative
is very compelling,
but, you know,
she's like in her late 40s now
and still has not
gotten in the correct lane.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So don't meet your heroes, guys.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Simple lesson.
What is something
that's underrated
besides Nancy Kerrigan?
I mean, she is a goddess
who walks among us.
Underrated is
always under, can't rate them enough, is the freaking Zeitgang.
Woo!
Oh, why?
Every single show I did, last week I did like 10 or 11 shows,
the Zeitgang was out for every damn show.
Really?
In every damn seat.
At least a couple people.
And for some reason, Philly is popping off.
With Zeitgang?
With Zeitgang, With Zeitgang.
It was great. I mean it was
so great to get to meet everybody
and talk to someone who was like, Jack O'Brien's my
freaking hero. That's weird.
Like, me too.
Cool.
But here's the thing, I met him. Don't meet your hero.
Don't meet your hero.
Big
All Lives Matter guy.
Don't let him on stage.
He'll say some problematic stuff.
Hey, man, Blue Lives Matter too, man.
That's pretty cool.
Preserve the Jack O'Brien that you love in your head
and never meet everybody.
The spit take guy.
No, but it was so great to meet everybody
and talk to everybody.
It was, yeah, the best.
That's awesome.
Way to go, guys.
That gang, you know,
we're internationally known and locally respected.
It's very true. Because it's a show of love, guys. Dyke Gang, you know, we're internationally known and locally respected. It's very true.
It's a show of love.
But really, they should be thanking us for introducing
them to Jamie Loftus. They should be thanking
me for working at Playboy and not remembering that
Jamie and I worked together.
I reposted that picture the other
day of Cooper Hefner
coming to my going away party
on a Segway. Did you see that?
Oh, okay.
What?
Wait.
For background, Jamie and Miles. So I used to work at Playboy doing their video content, and Jamie worked there too.
And at the time, I was on my way out, and I think Jamie had started.
I think we overlapped for maybe five months, four months, or something like that.
But our departments were never, because I worked at the magazine.
Yeah, you worked on that side of the office, and then I was with the digital freaks at the magazine.
I was like, dude, these guys are fucking losers.
Basically.
I was analog back then.
It was a simpler time.
Yeah, we didn't know we were about to be enemies.
But anyway, so Cooper Hefner is now running the company into the ground.
Because he's like, I think, 27.
He's like, bring my titties, please.
Yeah.
And he's like, Playboy's got to be like a sick lifestyle brain.
He's like, that's what we're going to have, like parties at Coachella.
And it's like, that's not the problem, dude.
So my last day, I did get laid off from Playboy on my birthday.
Cool.
And it was very chill.
But I really liked my coworkers that I worked with at the magazine,
and they were very nice.
And it wasn't their call, and they're like,
well, we'll throw you a
goodbye party slash happy
birthday party. So I got like the
saddest cake of all time. We were
downstairs in the bar area
with this really sad cake and
Lil Coop, because he's Lil,
Lil Coop comes up on
his hoverboard and he
rolls up. We've never met before.
He's like, hey, why is everyone looking so bummed out?
And my boss was like, we just had to lay off our employee on her birthday.
He's like, oh, bummer.
Took a slice of ice cream cake and just disappeared from my life forever.
But there's the picture of Lil' Coop on his little...
Oh, my God. He just rolled the fuck up. coop on this little oh my god he just rolled that
office gives me nightmares it was yeah it was a troubling office why was there an open bar 24
hours a day that was disturbing wow i don't know some really dark darkest timeline stuff going on
i just like the idea too that he would pull up to be like oh that's a bummer take a slice of cake
and then do like a 360 like a. Like a cool move on the way.
It's like, bummer.
Bye.
And it was just like one of those things where it's like,
man, we're not going to address that today.
There's too much going on.
That's amazing.
That guy is my new hero.
Cooper Hefner, pretty underrated.
I guess is the moral of this story.
And he's a tiny man that probably doesn't want anybody to know that, correct?
Right.
I mean, and I love La Petite Mail, but Coop, yeah, no, he's a very insecure La Petite Mail.
Right.
Who rides around on a hoverboard because it probably adds like five to six inches.
When you say small man, we're not talking about his height.
Right.
And finally, what's a myth?
What's something people think is true that you know to be false?
This was an exciting revelation I found out yesterday because i've
been struggling recently with i always have a a bun because i just can't think when my hair is
all the way down but that's a medical thing right you're telling me yes it's clint i it's and it's
fatal oh god yeah i have seven days to live it's really too bad i thought it's because we watched
that weird japanese tape but i was struggling okay. Okay. But then I've also recently been getting into bucket hats.
Unfortunately, it's really hard to have, you can't have both. Otherwise, you just look like
you get a big old lumpy head and your bucket hat's floating several inches above your head.
The myth is that you can have it both ways. And my dear friend, Michaela, who directs
Cheap Thrills, brought that to my attention yesterday by simply cutting a hole in a bucket
hat, much like the character Arthur cuts holes in his hat for his little aardvark ears. You can
have it both ways. Just cut a hole in the top of your bucket hat and just have
your stupid bun popping
out. Right. And
you can be a thinking woman
involved in the bucket hat community.
They say we can't have it all. They're wrong.
They're wrong. Common myth busted.
Now you have the bunkit hat.
Take a knife to your bucket hat
and then you get a bunkit hat. There you go.
Bunkit hat. Bunkit. Yeah, that's true because it was the first time you came, I remember, with your bucket hat and then you got a bunket hat. There you go. Bunket hat.
Bunket.
Yeah, that's true because it was, yeah, the first time you came, I remember the bucket hat, it was just like floating on top of your head.
I was like, huh?
A chilling image.
Well, it was the glasses that were the most chilling.
God, those glasses are so cool.
I forgot to bring them.
I found even tinier ones.
I found maybe the smallest glasses I've ever seen at this store that was clearly a drug front in Philly called
Fashion Store. Called Fashion
Store? Fashion Store. The only two
items they sold, it was tiny,
were the tiniest hacker glasses
like racks and racks and racks of
tiny hacker glasses and purses with
Michelle Obama's face on them.
Those were the only two items available.
Fashion Store, you gotta go.
Philadelphia is, in some ways,
like a third world country in certain places.
It's just very, you know, it has its moments.
The staff at Fashion Store was very helpful.
I was like, these glasses rule.
They're like, yeah.
They're irrepressible.
They're like, yeah, they rule.
Also, do you want some black Dario?
Would you like to buy an organ with your hacker glasses?
Hey, we get it.
All right, guys.
Let's talk about Tronk.
So this is the company that bought the Daily News.
And I think it was a couple years back and then fired half the staff earlier this week.
Basically kind of sliced the editorial staff in half,
sliced everybody in half.
It's fucking bullshit.
This is one of two New York tabloids,
the only one that's not run by Rupert Murdoch.
It's kind of a quirky paper that has some weird takes here and there.
But overall, this is something that seems to be happening a lot recently with big media companies coming in and downsizing.
And somebody who works for Deadspin, who they're owned by Univision, and Univision is in the process of rolling out a bunch of layoffs and downsizing and selling.
Univision's trying to hawk their companies. is in the process of rolling out a bunch of layoffs and downsizing and selling, you know.
Univision's trying to like hawk their companies.
Like they're just, they're like,
the last I heard of Univision, they're like,
yeah, they're trying to get rid of the onion.
I'm like, what?
Yeah.
What?
Come on.
Yeah.
We thought it was news.
If you don't know what to do with the onion, yeah.
Right.
And this Dead Spam writer wrote basically about a guy at Tronk who was the he resigned as chairman of the company because there was a sexual harassment allegation that was about to break.
So he resigned before it broke and Tronk paid him 15 million dollars to, you15 million on his way out.
To say, sorry, you're a sex crim?
Yep.
Right.
Yeah.
Yeah, the sex crim severance package that we've all become familiar with.
And the point the writer was making is just that he was saying things like, this is class warfare.
really wealthy people are basically they get tons and tons of the resources from these companies and the people who actually do the work get fired half of them right and i retweeted this article
and people responded they were like uh well legally that is their right to do that and
technically i'm sure that's correct but i think just in this person's sort of outrage, he got at a truth about, you know, that this shouldn't be normal. I'm sure it is normal in the business sector. I'm sure people who have a lot of experience with like venture capital are like, well, you've got to understand that it's a distressed asset. And, you know, he technically, that's what you need to attract the talent.
But in actuality, like just viewing this through eyes that aren't jaded by all that shit, like this is complete bullshit.
Yeah, well, that's the 1% view of what they did.
Right. It's like, well, we have to do that because we're just going to hemorrhage money.
Right.
Because we just gave this guy $15 million and then we post that we lost $14.8 million in the first quarter, unrelated, I'm sure.
And then you're like, oh, great, and then we'll just cut the staff here.
Yeah, and the whole legality argument flooding your mentions is totally bunk because it's like, what isn't it legal for one percenters to do?
It's like they can do anything.
That doesn't mean that it's right or ethical or good for the industry that they're a part of.
That's the thing.
It's really like the industry is getting fucked.
And we as a society are really going to get fucked by not having a functioning media in the not too distant future.
I don't know what the answer is.
Like if it's we start using taxes to pay for these media companies oh yeah donald trump
will definitely do that right well i i know that that like somebody mentioned that idea and
everybody on i think it was like a ringer podcast like shout them down we're like oh yeah that'd be
real popular with the people but fucking like local taxes pay for sports complexes and shit like that for, you know, what, to help morale or whatever.
What I think is going to happen is I feel like it's something that's already starting to happen anyways.
It's like people are just going to have to start doing some variant on the crowdfunding model to like support businesses and people that they trust
uh in order to have like a sustainable because it's like yeah any company that's like owned by
some sex crim who wants money which is most of them right well eventually uh because of like
the political climate they're in this like position where they can completely fuck over
their employees and industries with little to
no repercussion and i don't know i mean i it seems like there's like a lot of independent
like journalists and artists and and otherwise like taking to these different channels where
their audiences can find them and it's not a great living but it is a living for some people
i don't know i it it seems like that is like one
of the only ways to tell or a billionaire buys it you know right so bezos has the post and then
that biotech billionaire patrick shun shong what's it i'm i'm botching his name bought the la times
from trunk oh and like so that's like i guess that's, it's like our billionaire benefactors are now owning them.
But then that's, you don't want these billionaires
basically owning the newspaper where they're like,
well, then this is my version of reality
through the newspaper I own.
I think you almost need to be a sociopath
to consolidate that much wealth.
So I worry about that being our solution,
that we're going to let these billionaires.
I don't believe. Jack, they have winning attitudes. Oh, that's let these billionaires... Jack, they have winning attitudes.
Oh, that's true.
It might just be that they have winning attitudes.
I don't believe in ethical billionaires.
I just don't.
I really don't.
It's not possible.
Oh, really?
Oh, so Elon Musk is a bad guy?
Yeah, come on, guys.
Come on.
I'm sorry.
He hacked me with a tiny submarine.
But it didn't work because...
Well, the other thing, too,
I was reading about the daily
news also is like the remaining staff the new head comes in and he's like guys just give me 30 days
and i'm gonna show you that we're gonna put this thing in the right path and they're like why wasn't
there a fucking plan before you laid all these people off like what is going on they didn't have
a strategy they at the meeting where they announced the last to the people who weren't being laid off
they're like okay so what's the strategy moving forward?
And they're like, well, we're going to figure that out in the next 30 days.
So, you know, but this is a great company, exciting time in the media.
And then they hoverboarded out of the fucking room.
A room full of coopers.
Yeah.
Yeah, it sucks because when you see stuff like this happen happen too, it makes me worried for the future of journalism.
Not that the Daily News obviously isn't the pantheon of journalistic integrity.
Yeah, they're not muckrakers.
Although, you know, here with Boydwatch, it especially does hurt.
Boydwatch, yes.
but it just like it sucks to
see stuff like this happen
and know that
this means that
like a bunch of
young journalists
will be discouraged
from like
why even bother
and yeah
I don't know
why even bother
don't have an answer
don't bother
don't
cut a hole in your bucket hat
and move to the woods
bitch
and wear some tiny glasses
from a fashion store
from a fashion store
in Philadelphia
fashion store
please sponsor me.
All right.
We're going to take a quick break.
We'll be right back.
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assassination attempts, separated by two months. These events were mirrored nearly 50 years ago
when President Gerald Ford faced two attempts on his life in less than three weeks.
President Gerald R. Ford came
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And real quick, so up top, I think the top trending story yesterday was Demi Lovato and the fact that she OD'd and was taken to a hospital and she's apparently stable right now.
OD'd and was taken to a hospital and she's apparently stable right now.
Anytime this happens, I end up just going down a Google rabbit hole of all the different self-destructive celebrities and just reading about other people's addiction issues.
And I was reading up on this story and I actually clicked on a sidebar story that was something
cheesy. Like a literal ad worked on me that said, 60 celebrities who don't drink alcohol.
Jack's a bot now.
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Number 40 will make you cry.
And a lot of them were like Blake Lively and Kim Kardashian being like, I don't like the taste and it's bad for my skin.
So I only have it when toasting at weddings.
Like, I don't like the taste and it's bad for my skin, so I only have it when toasting at weddings.
But there were also stories that I didn't know about.
Famous people who have struggled with substance abuse and have now built a bunch of sobriety and really impressive careers.
I didn't know Daniel Radcliffe was struggling to get sober during the making of Harry Potter.
Oh, yeah.
Kendrick Lamar has been sober his whole career.
And then just in terms of overall health,
Rob Lowe, Gerard Butler, Bradley Cooper,
Dax Shepard, Jennifer Lopez.
A lot of these people who are either
inexplicably young looking or whose careers
are inexplicably good.
Are we putting Gerard Butler in there?
Yeah, I mean.
I mean, he gets checks at the very least.
No, no, yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Was he drunk for all of Phantom of the Opera
2004? I'm curious.
His career always
seems to, I'm like, why is
he still here?
That movie's guaranteed to do bad.
Yeah, he's always bad.
But he still
stays working. So I feel like,
I don't know, it's like inspiring in a very lame way that you can beat this thing.
Yeah, but what about Johnny Depp?
Well, yeah, that did not work out so well for him.
But I mean, he's still working.
Yeah, but I feel like the Rolling Stone profile on him is the nail in the coffin.
I mean, look.
It was brutal.
Disney still hasn't fired his ass.
That's true.
You know what I mean?
Even J.K. Rowling came to his defense.
Yeah, she's like, well, look, they settled it like adults, and we've already casted him.
Said it before, we'll say it again.
J.K. Rowling is lawful evil.
Lawful evil.
Anyways, Eva Mendes, Lana Del Rey got so ruined when she was 20.
These are people who, I'm saying like they are my artistic heroes.
Right.
There's people who it's like,
oh yeah,
that seems to be working out well for you.
And there are people who had big substance abuse problems in the past.
And I tend to just get a little obsessed with the romantic side of self
destruction.
Whenever a story like this is in the news and this garbage listicle was useful to get me out of that.
So I thought I'd pass it along.
Well, yeah, the stories about the Demi Lovato thing are really sad.
When I was working at Condé Nast, we did a video with her,
and she seemed pretty down, but was still trying to be pretty professional.
And then as you read the articles about this,
they were saying her friends saw were like, saw this coming.
And that's why someone may or may not have had Narcan on them to just that
they were like,
just very worried.
So please,
please,
please look out for your friends.
And also if you're struggling with,
with any kind of substance abuse problems,
don't be afraid to ask for help.
Yeah.
I'm a,
I'm a longtime fan of hers.
Really love her.
I think she's a great like artist a whole bit but she's
always been so outspoken about stuff like this too which is yeah i think is really admirable
the first thing i remember her being outspoken about was i want to say maybe 2014 2015 she wrote
this song about um when she like had a lot of like issues with anorexia and disordered eating
there's a song called skyscracraper. It's really good.
And then has since been very public and open and honest about struggling with sobriety,
which is really hard to do. And it seems like it's had a positive effect on her fan base.
And yeah, I hope she's okay.
I really like her.
She was on Barney.
That's crazy.
Barney.
She was on Barney.
All right. Let's crazy. Barney. She was on Barney. All right.
Let's get into the culture wars.
So the Cohen tape has dropped.
Hell yeah.
What did we learn here, Miles?
I mean, we just learned what we already knew, that Donald Trump knew about all these payments to these women to basically buy their silence or at the very least pay for David Pecker to buy their silence
via a catch and kill method of buying their story and never publishing it.
Who's David Pecker?
David Pecker is the owner of the head.
I think you mean David Chode.
David Chode of American Media Inc. who owns pretty much all the tabloids we talk about
on Bloodwatch except for I think InTouch.
That is owned by the Bauer Media Group in Germany.
Wild that you know that off the top of your head.
You know, we have to, we read the tea leaves over here.
Oh, that's great.
But yeah, so we find out that, yeah,
it's just a pretty clear recording where there's like,
yeah, and we're going to have to finance.
It's like, wait, what financing?
He's like, no, we're paying cash.
And then Michael Cohen's like, no, no, no.
I mean, it's not-
No, we don't pay in briefcases of cash.
It's not a fucking 1950s gangster movie. But it's just, yeah, it's just, again, I mean, it's not we don't pay in briefcases of cash. It's not a fucking 1950s gangster movie.
But it's just, yeah, it's just again.
I mean, I know, like, obviously the news, it's a big news item because it's like, oh, here's further evidence, like on tape of the president saying one thing and it really being another.
And his administration saying, oh, we don't know.
I don't know her trying to be Mariah with it.
But you clearly do.
We have the tape.
But this isn't new for anybody who is watching this president and going, okay, this is, yeah.
Yeah, and this is kind of, it's just another example
of this sort of gaslighting that's been going on
for the past couple weeks where he will say something
and then say he didn't say something,
even though there's a recording of him saying the thing.
And, you know, the New York Times saying the thing and uh you know the new york
times wrote the recording and the repeated statements it contradicts is a stark example
of how mr trump and his aides have used falsehoods as a shield against tough questions and unflattering
stories building upon his repeated cry of fake news he told supporters this week not to believe
the news right so there there was an extended trump jazz performance. Oh, my goodness. In Missouri.
He was at a VFW.
Missouri.
He was at a VFW thing.
Home field advantage.
And he dropped some heaters.
So I guess we'll go, as usual, when he gets to go on with his speaking, he doesn't know how to pronounce words or he's slurring his speech, however you want to look at it.
First up, he was having trouble with the word auxiliary.
Along with your outstanding
national auxiliary.
Uh-huh. Okay, thank you.
Then moving on. It's a
five-syllable word. I don't know what you're talking about.
I mean, yes, if you've never read the word before,
yes, you're going to be like auxiliary.
Yep. And then also
he was in Missouri, so he was having a little
trouble with that word. And members of
Missouri's congressional
delegation.
Oh my gosh.
Someone hit the Smirnoff ice too
hard this morning. Someone hit the
Big Mac too hard. And then
yeah, so then he got in, like then he did his usual
shit. He was talking about the Space Force and
no one gave a fuck. There was a point where it almost seemed
like, I think he had an interesting
view on a stealth fighter plane too.
How that works. We're ordering 147 new F-35 lightning fighters.
This is an incredible plane.
It's stealth.
You can't see it.
So when I talk to even people from the other side, they like the fact that you can't see it.
I said, how would it do in battle with your plane?
They say, well, we have one problem. We can't see it. I said, how would it do in battle with your plane? They say, well, we have one problem.
We can't see your plane.
Is he a John Cena fan?
Is that what's happening?
You know, when I talk to people on the other side,
what are you, a fucking ghost talker or something?
What do you think on the other side?
And then, yes, it got a little more.
So then, you know, he then started just sort of being, like, a little more more desperate about like, hey, guys, stick with us and blah, blah, blah, which is a little change of tone.
I mean, we are seeing the fallout from the Helsinki thing finally.
People have been saying for the past week, oh, see, this doesn't do anything to Trump's support from the right.
And that's probably true that Republicans are still going to be like 90% behind him. But just today, you're starting to see polls come out that have were fully reflective of
the Helsinki summit, they were, they started taking, you know, people's opinions after the
Helsinki summit, and like spanned the entire or their entire span was after the summit and you're starting to see a hit
to his approval and i think he is sensing that things have possibly changed yeah that even like
the people who are trying to delude themselves that this was good are starting to be like wait
a second or you like russia that much bro so then yeah so and then i think this was and this rally
took place before the tape dropped so So maybe he caught wind of it.
But that's another reason he really doubled down on the fake news thing.
So this is him talking to the VFW about being like, please stick with us.
But remember, they have the biggest, best, strongest lobbyists and they're doing a number.
Just stick with us.
Don't believe the crap you see from these people.
The fake news.
Yeah, the VFW also had a statement after that, like, we're really disappointed that the members cheered like that about his attack on the media.
Good for them.
Which, at the very least, thank you from the VFW, the organization.
But, I mean, when you're talking to a room full of octo and septuagenarians, at least from the crowd shots that I saw, it's a little tough.
At least from the crowd shots that I saw.
It's a little tough.
So then he went full 1984 and was just like, guys, the sky is red.
Water is dry.
Air is unbreathable.
And please don't, please ignore everything that's happening.
This is him just being like, news is not real.
The European Union, they're a big abuser.
But it's all working out.
And just remember, what you're seeing and what you're reading is not what's happening.
Uh-huh. Okay.
That sounded like a bad college boyfriend.
He's like, I don't listen to what people are saying.
I am not selling weed to kids.
You're on Facebook kissing her.
Yeah.
You have a shell profile.
What are you doing?
He's like, I do not.
I do not.
Don't.
They're haters.
Yeah.
Your friends are lying to you.
It wasn't me, defense.
Yeah.
Well, it's just, I mean, when you couple this all to like Rachel Maddow was pointing out
yesterday that there's been a lot of rewriting of history actively happening from the White
House.
Like during the Helsinki press conference, there was a guy from Reuters who asked Putin point blank. He said, President Putin, did you want President Trump
to win the election? And if so, did you direct any of your people to help with that? And Putin's
response is, yes, yes, I did, because he wanted to normalize U.S. and Russia relations.
So, yeah, this is something I totally missed. I knew a guy said, did you want him to win?
Right.
And his response was yes.
But there was an additional beat to the question that was, and did you direct anyone to help him?
And he said yes.
And then, yeah, the fact that the White House and the Kremlin both edited that out.
Everything else I think was pretty much in there.
But this one question on the White House version, they just took the transcript would read like whatever Putin's answer was from the question before.
Then the next question is, and did you direct them to help him, which is like doesn't make sense.
And then you just see Putin's answer.
Yes, yes, I did because he wanted to normalize U.S.-Russia relations.
And then on the Russian government's official transcript recap, like word-for-word transcript of the press conference. That question is not even there.
And the answer is not even there.
Oh, that's also sound.
Yeah.
Like Maria Butina, who is the spy who infiltrated the NRA and stuff like that.
And her like male American counterpart, this guy, Eric Paulson, I think, or Paul Erickson
is who they believe she was cavorting with their Wikipedia pages like were like massively
whitewashed over the weekend
and then wikipedia was like yeah well it's wikipedia so we can just change it back but also
the account that was doing it is how to like it was linked to a sister account for the russian
version of wikipedia so like their act like this is an active ongoing thing of trying to obscure
what's happening and none of this shit, it just looks worse and fucking worse.
And yeah, that's the thing that's really worrying is that like the White House is just straight
up trying to obscure like facts this aggressively in our face.
And like, we're just like, huh?
I mean, I don't know.
The only comfort I have there is like they're so bad at doing it.
Yeah, they're getting caught every time.
Every single time.
I mean, unless there's stuff we don't know about.
Now I have my little tinfoil hat on sticking up through my bucket hat.
Thank you.
Thank you for cutting a hole in it.
Yeah.
Well, that's the hack.
But yeah, I mean, he went on and brought the rally around and, you know, got people cheering
for the wall and stuff and telling and also telling people, you know, those farmers, hey,
don't worry about the tariffs that I imposed that caused the soybean industry like a huge dive in the price of soybeans.
Because the administration is going to be paying farmers $12 billion to ease the pain of all this self-inflicted pain that's been caused by the president.
Or as we call it, hush money.
So they stop complaining before the midterms
to be like, yo, this president is fucking up the farmers too.
Right.
When we think about corruption in America, we tend to think about like suits and ties
and guys in back rooms with scars and mirrors full of cocaine.
Please stop describing me.
And we're just, yeah.
And we're just, yeah.
But I think, you know, we tend not to think about the farming industry as like a corrupt thing. And for a lot of America's history, there are small farmers who get screwed, but there are also farmers who get huge bailouts from the government.
And this is one example.
bailouts from the government. And this is one example. They're trying to pass $12 billion in emergency subsidies to farmers whose businesses have been hurt by the president's trade policies.
Well, luckily, it comes out of a Depression-era program. So Congress doesn't have to approve any
of this. Oh, really? Yeah, they can just be like, yo, boom, there's a check, 12 bills.
But a lot of people are looking at the soybean industry. There's a lot of large farming operations for soybeans. So then a lot of people, there are a lot of Republicans are looking at like the soybean industry is a lot of large farming operations for soybeans.
So then a lot of people like there are a lot of Republicans are like, yo, this is not what farmers need.
And also, like you're just picking soybean farmers over small farmers who grow fruits and vegetables who like are all you know, everyone is being affected.
But you're you're mainly picking out the people who are getting truly damaged by these retaliatory tariffs coming from china
but yeah just throwing money at the problem doesn't solve the issue because these farmers
or these industries like they've been spending years trying to open china up to be like yo buy
all of our soybeans so like we have someone to sell to and just be like yo here's a check here's
a rebate coupon for the bad business and that's so transparent too where they're only throwing money
at people who have a strong case against them.
So it's just clear where the actual priorities are,
which is just not getting into trouble.
Right.
And I'm sure there's political reasons, too,
that these are people who they need to vote for.
Oh, 100%.
Yeah, and I mean, you know,
these are farmers who are getting screwed
by the president's terrible policies
and still choosing to support him.
But, I mean, it's not their fault that they're getting totally screwed by his policies.
But I guess the corruption I'm referring to is my number one villain of recent American history, the dairy industry.
Dairy farmers, you guys.
Dairy farmers, you guys.
This is kind of a stupid thing,
but they've successfully lobbied to get it so that nut farmers can no longer call almond milk.
Oh, my bad.
Right.
Nice.
Sick.
Sorry.
They can no longer call almond milk or cashew milk
or any of the nut products milk.
So they're going to have to call it water.
Nut water?
Yeah, nut water
or fucking nut juice.
Like all the gross
creamy nut juice.
Why don't they just call it
milk?
Almond milk?
Hey, do you want a nice cold glass of
milk?
It sounds like milk.
It just sounds like
milk. That just sounds like, yeah, you're just malp.
That's an insane concession on behalf of the government or for the government to make on
behalf of dairy farmers.
Because first of all, these are healthier products than the ones that the dairy farmers
are selling.
Right.
But they're just making it easier.
So this is something that goes back to World War II.
I've talked about this before on the podcast,
but it's such an insane thing that I-
The British coal gas study.
Right, no.
So there were dairy rations and milk rations
and meat rations during World War II.
And that was like one of the only times
that heart disease dropped in America
was when people were eating less dairy and less meat.
And then once the rations were over, they just kicked back up to normal levels.
And the dairy farmers just were like, okay, we will pave over that.
Shut the fuck up, everybody.
Oh, I didn't know that.
That never happened.
You talked about that?
Maybe not.
I know you talked about the 80s push for cheese to be on everything.
Then when people started wising up to the fact that it was bad for you again in the 70s and
started drinking skim milk, they
had this excess of dairy
fat. So they
started all these campaigns to sell
cheese and you got cheese
ads that were just straight up
for cheese on TV.
And this was all subsidized by
big dairy and also by the government.
They also like unloaded
the milk fat in our food
by like you know giving it to
the fast food industry. But yeah
there was just a cave full of
milk fat and they were like what the fuck are we
going to do with all this milk fat. And so
they like started making deals
with food manufacturers and
you know fast food places and that's why Domino's pizza is 90% cheese, technically.
Hell yeah.
The size of these industries compared to the USDA and the things that are supposed to be giving us nutritional insight is just insane.
It's like the budget for the nutritional departments are minuscule.
So it's not
a fair fight.
You pay them to put a stamp on
your food. Yeah, yeah, this is FDA approved.
Yeah. I'm coming off very
health, like LA health nut
this episode. I mean, yeah,
Creamy Nut Juice, the Creamy Nut Juice advocate.
What are they going to call it?
What's the-
I don't know.
What's the solution?
I'm sure they'll fight it in court.
It's just crazy that they're like, no, you guys, this isn't fair to the fat industry.
The industry that sells you fat.
Right.
So.
As someone who has chugged a gallon of milk-
You are a milk fan.
Multiple times.
Not anymore.
Not after chugging a gallon of milk a couple times.
And that'll really ruin milk for you forever.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And that was skim.
So this is an advertisement for a nice hot glass of Mark.
Of Mark.
Mark.
Nut Mark.
Nut Mark.
Nut Milk.
Nut Malk.
Nut Malk. Malk. Hey,. Nutmilk. Nutmalk.
Nutmolk.
Molk.
Hey, you got a glass of molk?
Really hot, please.
Hot molk.
Heat up that molk.
Oh, gross. You get nice warm glasses.
Shut the hell up.
Oh, wow.
Miles has made like five references to Happy Gilmore today.
I can't stop.
I feel like I'm like hanging out with my college friends.
College?
Like I'm 10 years old.
I've regressed.
Should we do a moment of silence?
Yeah.
Speaking of industrial titans who have been unfairly discriminated against,
Ivanka Trump's clothing line has shut down.
No.
Her exclusively beige and beige pink clothing line has been closed down.
Where am I going to get all my flesh-toned
clothing?
No. I want to look nude but worse.
I know. I know.
But I, yeah, she,
I remember, like, someone wrote up to, like,
Ivanka Trump has ruined Millennial Pink.
Like, forever.
Yeah, like, people were getting so on
that shit. I mean, it makes sense.
The fucking, the shit was never good.
And then once her, and then her father's presidency just made the fucking entire brand radioactive for people.
Yeah.
And none of it's even made in America.
It's literally made in China and Indonesia.
So, what's good?
Nothing.
Sorry you can't have a beige poncho anymore, you psychopath.
Yeah.
That'd be an interesting art piece to do,
where you just go when you find them at the bargain price stores
and just create some kind of monstrosity sculpture out of the clothing.
I don't know.
A bunch of kids in cages.
Guys, conceptual artist Miles Gray checking in right now.
Wow.
All right, we're going to take a quick break to work on that art project.
We'll be right back.
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And quickly, we wanted to check in with our hacking correspondent,
Jamie Loftus.
Hacker news.
Beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep.
So an Italian restaurant and lounge
in the Washington area.
I may have just fucked up the doc.
Noticed an uptick in one-star reviews
on their Yelp page with accusations
of terrible service, food poisoning.
I'm sorry, did you say accusations?
I think you mean hack-usations.
Oh, damn.
I mean, I don't know why I'm presenting this.
I don't know why I'm talking.
I am missing so many opportunities for hacker puns.
But yeah, so basically they found out
it was Romanian hackers who then do this to extortionate those ratings.
And they basically want to be paid to stop ruining these people's businesses.
This business just got a Facebook message that was just like, $900 and the bad reviews stop.
That's fucking brilliant.
Yeah, and when they went to the police, they were like, yeah, we're seeing a lot of this.
But what's crazy is Yelp needs to figure out how to fucking sort this shit out.
Yelp's had enough time to figure this out.
Yeah, there's clearly campaigns, good or bad, to just tank a business's Yelp score with just reviews for the fuck of it.
Although, if I may, just a little hacker instinct here, maybe Yelp is run by hackers.
And that's why they're hacking themselves. just a little hacker instinct here. Maybe Yelp is run by hackers. Oh, wow.
And that's why they're hacking themselves.
We're going to have to edit this out because I'm not putting myself at risk.
If they're getting a cut of the restaurant's money
to be, and so they're hacking.
So you see when you think about it, computers.
And that's how I know you are one of the,
our generation's greatest hackers.
Clicking.
Uh-huh.
Go on.
No, clicking.
Keystrokes.
Keystrokes.
Malware.
Spyware?
Malware.
By the way, when I sat down at the microphone today,
Jamie complimented my Microsoft mouse,
and she was very serious.
I really meant it.
She's like, nice hardware, bro.
Is that your hardware? Is that your hardware?
Is that your hardware?
Oh, cool, cool, cool, cool.
Yelp's also in the news because they announced that they're going to start showing restaurants
health information, which I thought meant how much fat and calories and shit were in
there, but it's just like there.
Are you an A rating, B rating, C rating?
Which is its own extortion racket.
Have you ever done an about face when you've walked up to a restaurant and saw that it had less than an A rating, B rating, C rating, which is its own extortion racket. Have you ever done an about face
when you've walked up to a restaurant
and saw that it had less than an A?
No. I fuck with B rated
restaurants. I've gotten a
C rating. Is it
like legally, I have to admit it's legally
required that it's prominently displayed
because if you walk into a C restaurant,
you gotta walk past the sign.
It's dark.
I wonder, is a C-rated restaurant allowed to operate at that point?
I think C is allowed.
I think C is the bottom of it.
It's like there's only one piece of rat feces that we saw on the food.
It feels like you're taking, this is a Ratatouille-style operated restaurant.
The rats are in the hats, and we're making stew.
Let's see what happens.
All right, guys.
Now, we have a new mystery that we need your help solving,
Zeitgang.
Or Starlykind.
So Mila Kunis was on the Dax Shepard show,
I think it's called.
Armchair expert, I think.
We don't need to say that.
Or as I call it, pfft.
Right.
Talking about her past relationships,
and Miles, can you give us a direct quote of what she said about her relationship with Mac?
So she dated Macaulay Culkin for like eight years.
I had no idea.
And then as they're talking about relationships, they get on the subject of her and Mac Daddy.
And this is the full quote from this thing.
I fucked up.
I was an asshole in my 20s and I'll be the first to admit it.
And that's something
that took me a long time
to come out
and be like,
yeah, you know what?
I was a dick
and accept it
and I own it.
And it's fucked up what I did.
It's fucked up what I did
and it's fucked up how I did it.
What?
Let me finish.
When I got to be single,
I said,
I just need to figure myself out.
Genuinely need to know why I did I just need to figure myself out genuinely need to know
why I did
what I did
and like
regroup myself
as a human being
what did you do to him
holy shit
I don't know
when you say
and it's fucked up
what I did
it's fucked up
what I did
and it's fucked up
how I did it
that whole like
stream of constant
it's fucked up
how I did it
is so crazy
because it's like it suggests a violent act.
Yeah, or just the most grotesque deception.
God, some theories were Macaulay Culkin's grandma's ashes were put into his coffee for eight years.
Eight years, could have been one.
So he consumed in entirety his grandma.
His entire grandma in his morning cup
because Mila Kudus, she doesn't
know why she did what she did.
And how she did it was fucked up.
I don't,
if she was like me in my 20s,
she probably told McCoy, hey, let's go meet my family.
And then that was a lie, and then
just went to Chipotle and broke up with him.
Miles, that's horrible.
That didn't happen.
I was broken up with at Chipotle, though.
Oh, really?
She didn't get you there by saying, let's go meet my family.
Actually, she did.
Hey, you should meet my folks.
You should meet my family at this Chipotle.
Hey, where are they at?
Where's your food?
I'm not eating, but we need to talk.
What?
And then I cried listening to the song Bodies
by Smashing Pumpkins on the double disc album,
The Melancholy and Infinite Sadness.
Oh, yeah.
I thought you were saying, like,
let the bodies hit the floor.
No, the first line is Billy Corgan going,
love is suicide.
Subtle. I used to go to, there was when i was dating someone uh this is a couple years ago there was a restaurant that we would always break up at we broke up a million
times and it was always like this one restaurant if he was like we should go to modern eats i'm
like i'm about to get dumped don't show up jamie always show up food's good and then we would break
up every like four or five
different times. And you only ate there
when you broke up. It was just like, alright,
we better head back there. Yeah.
Like, oh, modern eats, I mean, at least, well,
it's already been ruined for us because we only
break up here, so may as well enjoy the fries.
Oh, man. That's like Serpico,
right? Yeah. Or I feel like I just
meant that one moment where he yells, I can shout
anywhere. Meet me at felix's anyway um well in better news yes the deadwood movie is finally happening yes
i'm excited did you watch the show jamie no okay well deadwood is about a little town what south
dakota i think uh whoa not a fan of south dak. Not a fan of South Dakota. That was Andy.
That is our guest producer, Anderson Lichterman.
We may go just paper this over as I go.
So it takes place in this town, Deadwood, which is in South Dakota.
When it was an unincorporated territory.
Yes, exactly.
So it was just no laws really.
What era?
It was like 1800s?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like the late 1800s.
And yeah, it's just a great show.
It's got all kinds of unsavory characters.
It has Warren from Something About Mary in it,
as you may have never seen him before.
That always blew my mind that he was in it
playing Swearengin's right-hand man.
But yeah, HBO announced that finally
the movie is going to go into production this fall.
No jokes.
It was all rumors up until now, but they said it's happening.
And I think the fans deserve it because if you watch the show,
the climax is the ending of the show.
There's about to be a showdown, and that's the last episode,
and you won't see what happens.
It's like all these titans of business and tycoons people,
they hire these giant outfits of violent people.
Weren't they hiring Pinkerton cops?
Pinkerton cops and stuff to come in and basically try and take the town over so that they can get all the gold out of the ground.
And it's like them versus all these people who have been fighting each other for the entirety of the show are now like kind of together against this outside force.
And it's like cool American history is like coming into it now.
And then it ends.
Yeah.
Because they didn't know it was going to end.
They thought they were like, well, this show is amazing.
This would be a good season cliffhanger.
And instead that was the last episode.
Yeah.
It's because the show cost too much.
It's also written in this like heightened almost Shakespearean, crossed with swearing English.
It's really worth checking out.
So they're going to finally tell us what's up.
Although they won't talk about what the movie's actually about, sadly.
Oh, really?
They won't reveal details about that.
It's about modern day Deadwood. What? It's like Swearingen's Kid. It's about what the movie's actually about, sadly. Oh, really? They won't reveal details about that. It's about modern day Deadwood.
What?
It's like Swearingen's Kid.
It's a cartoon.
What?
Because it is Santa University.
It's actually Santa.
It's covered.
It's a working title for Santa University.
But it's not the production that we're most excited about.
No, no, no.
Hitting the airwaves.
Because that would be
the new Netflix
series, I believe,
called Insatiable. The new
epic. Yes, and
I guess, should we just play
a condensed version of the trailer first
so people can get an idea that
this is one of, and thank God
that this is a body positive
show for tweens, teens, and young adults to really just, you know, to push into a new era of acceptance.
So this is a condensed version of the trailer for Insatiable.
Fatty Patty's huge.
While my classmates were out losing their virginity, I was at home stuffing another hole.
It smells like bacon.
It's her mouth.
Morning.
Hello.
Every day I wondered, how much more of this can I take?
Then it hit me.
Someone punched you.
Now what?
Look, Patty's hot.
Having my jaw wired shut lost me more than just my summer vacation.
Oh, this is like every great high school movie ever made.
Now I could be the former fatty who turned into a brain.
Okay.
What?
So, if you didn't get it, that was about an overweight high schooler who is just ridiculed for her weight.
She's called Fatty Patty.
And then a homeless man punches her in the mouth.
Presumably for being so fat.
Probably.
God.
And she has to get her jaw wired shut. And then because of that, it catalyzes dramatic weight loss.
So then she comes back in the fall hot, because hot means not overweight.
The only part of her that doesn't lose weight are her extremely plump lips.
Yes.
And also she does still come back the actress Debbie Ryan, so I would argue not hot.
And then there's this weird Asian girl who went,
Fetty Petty got hot!
And I was like, yo, leave the shrill Asian woman voice alone.
Netflix.
Wildly offensive.
And then also she slaps the only woman that she strikes is a woman of color.
That same Asian girl in the trailer.
Well, Asian girls are mean.
We can all agree on that. I mean, I by an asian girl yeah uh not my mother with one
yeah my mother abandoned me yes and this just woman with a hella giddy background just raised
me as her own and so shout out to you uh anyway but yes so uh jm one of our writers just pulled
out like the one sentence synopsis that's been going around the marketing material
this is this series the series stars debbie r Ryan as a high schooler who was bullied for being overweight
before losing weight when she's forced to get her jaw wired shut
after being punched in the face by a homeless man.
Woo, doggie.
Just like what?
It's one of those so horrendous.
It just checks every single box of like, okay, it is racist.
There are class issues.
It is fat shaming.
It is just everything about it is like, oh, this is, we've got, we've got a full.
And you were saying this earlier, Miles.
I think it's totally on point.
Like this show must have been greenlit right before.
You cannot do this anymore.
Yeah.
Like, I think it's probably fair to say this is finished production a year ago, maybe.
Yeah. Just a little bit. They were this is finished production a year ago, maybe. Yeah.
Just a little bit.
They were maybe wrapped and then they're like, oh.
Oh, I thought you were going to say like in the mid 60s.
A year ago, huh?
Like there was like a similar, like more nuanced.
This is just like ridiculous.
But there was like a similar situation a couple months ago with the Heathers reboot show that ended up getting like put on the shelf because it was in production before it was
like, oh no, we're not making shows about
school shooters. No, we're not
doing that.
Again, way too late
for them to be coming to that realization.
Right, right. It's just bizarre.
Oh, but this one was really bad
and those kids
had press conferences, so we're not going to do
school shootings anymore.
Did you see the Debbie Ryan defense of this show?
No.
Debbie logged in, gang.
Debbie logged in and she was like,
I used to have body issues
so this show is freaking fine.
She said, I was drawn to this show's willingness
to go to real places about how difficult
and scary it can be to move through the world in a body, whether you're being praised or criticized for its size, what it feels like to pray to be ignored because it's easier than being seen, which is a very fat, shaming comment in the first place.
And also it's like, bitch, you are in a fat suit for most of this show.
Where do you get off saying literally anything?
Disney Channel.
The message isn't uplifting to anyone who might be in that situation.
It's like the solution
to your problems
is to not be fat.
Right.
Not to embrace who you are.
Not to say,
I don't give a fuck
what you think.
This is who I am.
Deal with that.
It's just like the main takeaway
is like this act of violence
against a woman
for no reason
changed her life
for the better
and made her hot.
It's the Zoltan of this movie
or like whatever the fuck
that thing is
that changes that kid into Tom Hanks.
Oh, yes.
That is Zoltan or Zoltar?
Zoltar.
Just getting punched in the face
by homeless dudes.
That thing really freaked me out in Big,
that Zoltar machine.
Really?
To me as a kid,
when I watched that shit
as a fucking four-year-old or whatever,
I was like,
oh, shit, dude. That shit looks weird with the red eyes and all that.
It always creeped me out, the scene when he becomes Tom Hanks
because he wants to be big enough to date that girl who's like 13.
And then there's a part where he's like wistfully goes back to his hometown and is like sitting on the street as Tom Hanks watching that girl.
And it's like, yo, dude, are you thinking about making your move?
You creep.
What the fuck's going on?
Anyways, Big's a great movie, though.
And so is Insatiable.
I can't wait to check in on Insatiable.
I can't believe it's a full series.
Holy shit. They must be shitting
themselves trying to figure out what to do with it.
There are petitions being like,
yo, knock this shit off. There have been
numerous articles. Over 100,000
signatures.
When you
go to the Netflix website,
what they do now, the overview
is, a bullied teenager turns to beauty pageants as a way to exact her revenge with the help of a disgraced coach who soon realizes he's in over his head.
Oh, that's a totally different show description.
Yeah.
God damn it.
Yeah, they cleaned it up.
And then they're like, oh, this show is offbeat, cynical, and dark.
Yeah, and fucking problematic but based on their keen ear
for what is problematic and what isn't i'm sure the disgraced coach is like he got me too'd but
he got screwed over yeah or something he's like man these kids gotta stop complaining right right
uh because i think there is one scene where the the teacher like doesn't recognize her because
she's gotten all hot yeah and he's like uh we're still missing patty or she's like i'm here and he's like no she isn't
suck on that lollipop just like a trope that's been used against women in movies for like it's
so boring this is a weird twist on it but just like the you know the take off her glasses trope or like
the second she changed
everything about herself
and stopped reading
all those books
she was really hot
and it's just like
ugh
ugh
if only there was
a perfect podcast
to cover such a thing
oh I don't know
have you guys ever
heard of this
soy good podcast
oh soy good
it's soy good
called the Bechtel cast oh yes and it is the Bechtel cast it is fucking blowing up you guys ever heard of this soy good podcast? It's so good. Called the Bechdel cast.
And it is the Bechdel.
It's fucking blowing up.
You guys pretty freaking good.
I highly recommend it.
Yeah.
Jamie,
where else can people find you off of this podcast besides at standup shows
and on the Bechdel cast?
Well,
you can find me on the mainframe all day,
every day.
You can find me on twitter.com at Jamie Loftus Help, Instagram, Jamie Christ Superstar.
And I got a new show coming out on Super Deluxe called Robot Takeover.
It comes out in two weeks.
Oh, dope.
That's great.
Is that the Roomba thing?
Me and a pile of Roombas, baby.
Yep.
Yep.
Spend the next two days with Roombas.
So that'll be, look forward to that.
Oh, yeah.
We're shooting in a bunker tomorrow. Oh, shit. Like uh it looks i'll show you it looks chillingly like a
bunker okay okay yeah we'll look at that we'll look at it uh is there a tweet you've been enjoying
uh this is from a twitter user slash person i like quite a bit her name is chrissy malazzo
um and she made me laugh this morning by tweeting, I wish people would stop telling me stories about people who aren't hot saying dumb things.
It's only funny to make fun of dumb hot people.
Regular dummies is sad.
Read a fucking book.
And she's at Chrissy Malazzo, M-I-L-A-Z-Z-O, on Twitter.com.
Wow.
Wow.
Wow.
Wow.
That was terrible.
My wow was really bad.
Really?
Disclaim that for my own sake.
Jesus Christ.
Because I crossed over to Waka Waka,
and then when I went back to Owen Wilson,
I was still a Muppet.
Keep digging this hole.
I'm loving it.
Miles, where can people find you?
You can find me on Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Gray.
And a tweet that I liked more has to do with just sort of the $12 billion hush money payout that the farmers are getting.
It comes from Senator Chris Murphy from Connecticut.
Because I'm like, as I hear about it, I'm like, $12 billion can probably do a lot better than just going to big agribusiness.
But he tweeted, he said, $12 billion in payoffs for farmers to blunt the political cost of
tariffs.
Crazy pants.
Just saying.
But for $12 billion, you could build A, 500 new public schools, B, hire 250,000 teachers,
or C, pay for a million kids, a million kids to go to college for a year.
So anyway, that's cool.
What?
Yeah.
Yeah.
So, I mean, not like a funny one, but yeah.
I learned.
You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien.
You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien.
A series of tweets I've been enjoying are from David Christopher Bell,
a hilarious writer from Cracked, from the Cracked days.
He has just been dropping in some,
I get the sense that he's rewatching a bunch of old X-Files because he's just been tweeting things like,
Fan Theory, the reason no one ever believed Mulder
is because the X-Files only showed us rare times he was right,
but skipped over all the countless and violent takedowns
of alopeciac children and elderly sleepwalkers.
Another tweet was, Mulder, unprompted.
Sheriff, do you believe in shape-shifting?
Sheriff, this is a funeral.
Actual X-Files dialogue.
Oh my God.
And then one other is just a picture
that he took of a screenshot from the show
that is a file drawer that is labeled X-Files.
And he says,
Mulder's X-Files are completely uncategorized and literally just have the words X-Files printed on every drawer.
I just like their response.
This is a funeral to anything.
That's my new response to everything.
Hey, do you think we should start calling milk Mark?
This is a funeral.
This is a funeral. This is a funeral.
Apparently, breaking news,
Trump has decided to delay
Putin's trip to the White House
quote, until next year after
the witch hunt is over.
Also, shut the fuck up, because the thing
was, the Kremlin was like, yo,
we don't know if we want to go.
So he did the, we're going to dump you before you dump me.
He's like, well, I actually
dumped you in my head.
Yeah.
Worst college boyfriend
of all time.
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Footnotes.
We link off to the information
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in today's episode
as well as the song that
we ride out on.
Miles, what's that going to be?
Oh, I was playing this little Kendrick Lamar deep cut and I was like, ooh, what's that?
What's that?
What's that?
What's that?
And this is from, so a few years ago on Black Friday, Kendrick Lamar and J. Cole wanted
to release some albums.
It's called Swimming Pools.
Yeah.
Oh.
Whoa, pour up drink?
So, yeah, this is from Black Friday a couple years ago.
But anyway, Kendrick Lamar rapped over a J. Cole beat from A Tale of Two Cities,
and then J. Cole rapped on a Kendrick Lamar beat.
But obviously, Kendrick is gold.
So, yeah, his version is much more fire, more fuego, and his lyrics are amazing,
except for the one part where he says Kanye West for president. That one didn't age too well, my guy, but that's okay, Kung Fu Kenny, except for the one part where he says, Kanye West for president.
That one didn't age too well, my guy,
but that's okay, Kung Fu Kenny,
because for the most part, you're on point.
So yeah, Black Friday.
Kung Fu Kenny, Kenny.
All right, we are going to ride out on that.
We will be back tomorrow because it is a daily podcast.
Talk to you guys then.
Bye.
Bye.
Wow.
Wow.
Wow.
Wow. Kendrick Lamar, the people's champion, a man of more for analysts. Career damaging versus meditating when candles lit.
I like my raps extra prolific.
Some freestyling, no lunch tables and park benches.
And I won't mention my 10,000 hours in training while juggling game banking.
My balance in what's tremendous.
And now we look at the competition as quick submissions.
They tapping out before we even get a chance to miss them.
What this about?
Is it money or skill?
Maybe it's both.
And I got large amounts of it.
It's real. You see, my oath is very unbreakable my style is never mistakeable i can see y'all incapable to be the god mcs you know me well ridiculous venomous hating my heart the sinister
run for cover my lineage prove itself i'm rolling deep in their paper like two adeles before scholars
i float tired and virgin lips we here to shake the game up, and you're flying through turbulence, everything
is high stake nowadays, that's how I
play nowadays, it's like an eight ball to the face
nowadays, I'm laced nowadays, my gun is
off the waist nowadays, it's seven figures
in retainer for the case nowadays, I'm talking
higher power every other hour, since
Eddie Bowers and stash boxes and lead showers
breaking the padlock and the dead coward
dying a thousand deaths, entire lion surrounding
self-repaired, watch a nigga, you share a profit
This is what they want, I'm the one
This is vintage from, 1990 some
I'm the son of the pioneer that got you near the sun
Play with him, bet you better all voting for Donald Trump
I'm yelling Mr. Kanye West for president
He probably let me get some head inside the residence
I'm in the White House going all out
Bumping college dropout.
God bless Americans.
Nothing more influential than rap music.
I merge jazz fusion with the trap music.
I mix black soul with some rock and roll.
They never botched me and I'm David Blamey.
Now you hoes.
Oh yeah, let's go there.
My DNA is DMT.
I'm so real.
My jewelry now is wilder than the know ya.
A locomotive.
Couldn't track me down in my co-wrap.
Running this shit with four pair
Son of a bitch, I might demolish your bitch right in front ya
Chico, what have you done ya?
D-Bo, I love it when ya
Mississippi to California
It gets annoying ya
Niggas wanna deploy him
And bitches wanna adore him
But industry shit ain't for him
Probably thinkin' it's for him
Only want me
Swallow the key and kickin' the dart
And never leasin' my foreign
Mr. Valak, Victorian
Studied the game before them
Listened to you abort him Bet you rappers support themied the game before them, listen till you abort them
Bet you rappers abort them, till the grave I deport them
Corporations extort them, I'm snapping off my endorphins
An alien mighty morph in my radius, rather gorgeous
100 bill to the doorman, 100 million my fortune
They call me back in the morning, you're racing against the tortoise
Pace myself is important, lace myself with the wisdom
My playing isn't me, no miss, I'll pay the man for performance
Saucy hollow my garments, Jimmy Kendrick's performing
This fuckin' studio haunted
I tell a bitch, don't sweat me
I kill it so, fuckin' beat if cold, let me
Eve should've never set the instrumental
Every time I start writin', I get sentimental
This shit is just not fair
But why the fuck should I care?
The story of your life here
Two young stars was born and y'all go die here
Oh lord, gotta be the M
Billboard list need to pop down
But number nine make sure he lives on, yeah
Gucci, Gucci, pussies in a trance
Every day a celebration
But even the valley peak to me is not validation
Nigga, there's TDE and my doggies be salivating
Salary's better ratings And casualties all around me
But maybe do demonstrations
Murder my allegations
And burning my finger traces
And turning my power pages
And earning royalty payments
I'm sorry you're not relating
This party is reservations
I kill it so motherfucking beat it
J.Cole say it
My nigga each at the instrumental
I gotta slay it
I gotta lay it
Gotta show your fuckers
I'm not to player with the records.
I've been my favorite king.
Come to the fucking place.
Wow.
Burning my leather.
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