The Daily Zeitgeist - Trump is Captain E.O., Worst WAP Reactions 8.11.20

Episode Date: August 11, 2020

In episode 691, Jack and Miles are joined by producer and pop culture critic Joelle Monique to discuss Ben Shapiro reading the WAP lyrics, Trump's coronavirus executive order, media ignoring police vi...olence during protests, election tampering, election results being delayed due to vote-by-mail, how we are doing with our coronavirus response, Carole Baskin's thoughts on the WAP video, Walt Disney World cutting their hours down, and more!FOOTNOTES: Ben Shapiro reading the 'WAP' lyrics will make you laugh your 'd-word' off The top 3 unanswered questions about Trump's executive orders on coronavirus relief Full Navarro: Trump Is 'Hardest Working President In History' | Meet The Press | NBC News Kudlow: States can 'make room' for UI payments Violence, conversation breaks out at Back the Blue rally White House Says China Is Targeting U.S. Election With Cyberattacks, But Pelosi Says Threats From Russia And China Are 'Not Equivalent' FEC commissioner: 'Substantial chance' of no results on election night Five former CDC directors explain dire mistakes in America's coronavirus response - from sidelining science in favor of politics to 'sugarcoating' the severity of the pandemic Georgia high school reports nine coronavirus cases days after photos of packed hallways and students without masks go viral as local rep creates whistleblower hotline Carole Baskin Bashes Cardi B & Megan Thee Stallion's 'Lurid' Music Video for 'WAP' & 'Big Cat Pimps' Walt Disney World to Reduce Theme Park Hours Next Month WATCH: Merida’s Horse Gets Caught in a Balloon at Disney World Magic Kingdom During Small Princess Parade WATCH: Two Door Cinema Club - Something Good Can Work (The Twelves Remix) Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:41 Hi, I'm Akilah Hughes, and I'm so excited about my new podcast, Rebel Spirit, where I head back to my hometown in Kentucky and try to convince my high school to change their racist mascot, the Rebels, into something everyone in the South loves, the biscuits. I was a lady rebel. Like, what does that even mean? It's right here in black and white and prints. It's bigger than a flag or mascot. Listen to Rebel Spirit on the iheart radio app apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts hello the internet and welcome to season 146 episode 2 of your daily zeitgeist a production of iheart radio this is a podcast
Starting point is 00:02:18 where we take a deep dive into america's shared consciousness and say officially off the top fuck the coke brothers fuck fox news News. Fuck Rush Limbaugh. Fuck Buck Sexton. Fuck Tucker Carlson. Normally I would say fuck Ben Shapiro, but he has given us, he has bestowed upon us one of the great
Starting point is 00:02:37 verses that we've you know, it wasn't his original material, but the spin he put on it. I mean, it's the same way like how jay would use a lot of biggie lyrics in his raps and like it felt like an homage really right and some people you know accuse him of straight lifting them but i see them as an homage that ben shapiro was doing because he could be you know our next rock him i don't know. Yeah. Speaking of homages, it's Tuesday, August 11th, 2020. My name is Jack O'Brien, and my AKA is a bit of an homage to my favorite rapper, Mr. Ben Shapiro.
Starting point is 00:03:17 Jack O'Brien, AKA. Close your eyes because these thighs are really white and pasty. At this point, it's no surprise I'm really white and pasty. Miles Gray got them calves, but I am white and pasty. Hold up. WAP stands for what? Okay. Never mind.
Starting point is 00:03:33 My bad. That is Curious Sea of Mr. Austin T. And I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. Well, you know I play FIFA in the night. Drink cold brew in the day. I like to run to pass the time. Welcome to the Daily Zine. Welcome to the Daily Zine.
Starting point is 00:04:00 Okay, that was me doing a little Ray bubble on the organ. Shout out to Johnny Davis. Wow. Normally the trend AKA God, oh, yo, you and Christy Yamaguchi main and Hannah Soltis might have to do battle because now you're creeping in the traditional AKA game. I see you.
Starting point is 00:04:18 I see you. And I see you. Cage match. And then to fill out the final four, I'm drawing a blank on her name. It's been so damn long. But our original, the original AKA Goddess, whose name I'm drawing a blank on,
Starting point is 00:04:35 Chapman Rice will come in. There you go. Damn. See, I let you do it. You'll hear intro music coming in. Don't help him. Don't help him. He can do it.
Starting point is 00:04:42 He can do it. And you did. That's how I am with my four-year-old. Yeah. just let him let him answer it on his own and then he'll he'll have something to feel proud about uh which is also what the doctor told you uh you gotta give him some esteemable actions to give him to help him build self-esteem uh so just make him think uh he got that okay who's this for now? You or me? On the screen. Anyways, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by the hilarious, the talented, the brilliant, Joelle Moniz!
Starting point is 00:05:17 Oh my gosh, you honor me. Hi, guys. What's up? How are you doing? Welcome. Oh, man. So good to talk to you on mic. We talk so often off mic these days, but it's great to have you here.
Starting point is 00:05:30 Often in a conference call with an engaging or opening tune to just get everybody ready for the big call. It's coming. Exactly. Got it. I usually interrupt everything everyone sends. Yeah, let's circle back to that. But I wanted to... Because I'm good at my job.
Starting point is 00:05:48 I was like, Jack, I'll send you how I was struggling in quarantine. Do your listeners know that you're full boss? Are they aware that you go into boss mode outside of the show? I wear a suit the second the show's over and my selfie is taken. I get on an 80s suit. It's boxy. It's got shoulder pads. Gordon Gekko over here.
Starting point is 00:06:11 Slick back my hair. Classic. Joel, how are you doing in quarantine? Man, I got a hit show, so it's hard to complain, man. I got good friends who take me to gardens randomly went to this giant garden in pasadena yesterday yeah yeah did you go to the thing where they had the the speakers in the hidden in the trees that was my favorite part miles yeah i get high and i walk through there bro you were talking about quarantine activities that talking
Starting point is 00:06:42 forest i popped some edibles i was like my friend's like we're gonna go like up that big hill and i was like happy climbing i'm gonna stay right down here in these lowlands with the trees and this like ethereal lady singing to me and look at all the old couples in love oh my god if you like old couple watching that's the place to be yeah a botanical garden is like the original net and chill. I was like, I'd like to take you to a botanical garden. She's like, uh-oh. I know what that means. It was very scary.
Starting point is 00:07:11 This Karen lady, she was there with her kids, and she was mad that the lady up front didn't remember her. And she's like, yeah, well, it's really hard to have a face mask. Like we're not seeing a lot of people's faces, which I thought was the most legitimate excuse ever. And she was like, well, we're here every week. These are my kids. She named her children.
Starting point is 00:07:27 It was just like, you know, we see you. We remember you. And I was like, wow, lady, middle of a pandemic. This lady's probably getting $12 an hour. Can you just let her live her life? You don't remember my children, Descanso and Gardens? Named after this very establishment. I did it for a discount.
Starting point is 00:07:44 Yeah, it really is like one of the few you know i was i have not been going to many places like patronizing businesses and physical space but i was like botanical garden felt like the one thing where it's basically like they reduce capacity so you're basically walking through a park for money uh and i was like okay that felt like the lowest stakes i can do to kind of get out there and like see some see some shit so yeah i've only been for christmas and they do a pretty good light show type yeah yeah they do a great one that made me wish i still and look a little bit more affordable if you like the huntington gardens you know that's another one that's another bit of a flex over there but you know to each their own to each their own it's like a people
Starting point is 00:08:21 watching zoo kind of it's like yeah well man huntington gardens they got the whoo the fucking strong asian gardens like a chinese pavilion in a japanese area and i'm like taking my mom there and she's like in tears yeah so it's the culture other thing yeah asian moms love a botanical garden too let me tell you let me tell you all right uh joelle we are going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment first we're going to tell our listeners a couple of things we're talking about uh we're going to talk about how trump how fond trump is of the executive order uh you know he's supposed to be themaker, but hasn't hasn't gone that well. I want to talk about a couple of important conversations that non-fascists are losing to fascists. I want to talk about how there will probably be no results on election night.
Starting point is 00:09:18 Not even like we won't be able to quite call it yet, but like we might not have any results, according to the FEC commissioner. We're going to talk about carol baskin we're gonna check in with her see what she has to say about the uh video she got takes man you know i'm glad yeah we have our you know very important media critic carol baskin to you know step into the fray does it have something to do with the fact that Kylie was rocking the leopard print? You'll see. We'll get to it. Carol's got that. She has thoughts on the verses.
Starting point is 00:09:52 She thought Megan could have probably put a little more time into her verse, apparently. Yeah. She had a lot of takes. A little look behind the curtain. Miles is our Carol Baskin correspondent. He has his ear to the streets on that beat. We're going to talk about Disney and how their numbers have looked since they reopened.
Starting point is 00:10:12 Mount Rushmore and what that's going to look like after Trump wins the 2020 election. All of that. Plenty more. But first, Joelle, what is something from your search history that is revealing about who you are? Yeah. HP Lovecraft is all up in that B. I'm getting ready for Lovecraft Country, which is a black reimagining of a lot of HP Lovecraft stories set in the American South.
Starting point is 00:10:34 Misha Green, who you may know from the slave show that was on UPN on something. Oh, my goodness. Underground? Yes. Thank you. It's right there. Yeah, so Misha Green did Underground. She is amazing.
Starting point is 00:10:48 Black female showrunner, been working in the industry for a long time, written on some of your favorite shows. I think she got her start on Breaking Bad, if memory serves. Super awesome human. It teamed up with Jordan Peele to do this horror anthology series. I'm covering it for the AV Club, so I've been trying to become an H.P. Lovecraft historian before the show drops on Sunday, which
Starting point is 00:11:10 has been a daunting experience, but a lot of fun. Luckily, audiobooks is available, so I don't have to actually read all the books. I can read them through my ears, which is much faster and easier to take notes that way. And I'm kind of really enjoying the experience.
Starting point is 00:11:25 Besides his racist history and past, I'm sure. The show is definitely going to take on it. The man could write a book, man. All of his stuff comes from a scientific journalist sort of focus. And so it's all deep and dark and scary, which is definitely my vibe. And I've been reading a lot of Mary Shelley before this, and so it's kind of interesting to get back into the horror masters, the originators, and
Starting point is 00:11:49 see what that's about. When I heard her say that this is like Get Out meets Lost, or that Get Out and Lost made this possible, I was like, yes, please. I will be doing that. My arms just shot off my arm. I can tell you've seen the first two episodes
Starting point is 00:12:06 and whoa, it's so good. I've really enjoyed it so far. People are saying it's so great. I'm excited. What's the other HBO show that's just coming to an end that is there's like so much. Oh, Gary Mason? Yeah, is that good?
Starting point is 00:12:21 It's so good. Matthew Rhys, who people might know as the lead from The Americans, plays the saddest man in the world. Just that sad guy making his way through L.A. So very relatable. But also it's got like, you know, TV used to have the rule where you don't show the dead baby. When a baby dies, it's just like a mother's scream or like empty bassinet or something. So we're like, here's a dead baby with its eyes sewn open.
Starting point is 00:12:46 Episode one. You're like, what the hell? And that's the level of like drama you start off with. And it's a little, some people didn't like episode one. Cause it's like very dark. So much.
Starting point is 00:12:56 Yeah. Emotional levels. The show gets into you by episode three are addictive. It's really, really good. Yeah. DBs in the pilot. Damn.
Starting point is 00:13:08 DBs. That is, we talk so much about dead babies around here uh on the daily that we just have to call them dbs like just notes a lot of people pitch podcasts like this is not very interesting it's very uh violent but yeah it's interesting to always look at how like these remakes happen because I remember the Perry Mason. Who was our Perry Mason? The dude who had the white beard before. I knew it was a black and white show before the one in the 80s, Perry Mason. Doesn't matter. It's interesting
Starting point is 00:13:36 to see how there's every... This is another one of those franchises that's reiterating but in a cool next level way. Is that Raymond Burr? By our, you mean those of us who grew up in the 1950s? franchises that's like reiterating but in like a raymond burr next level way is that raymond burr and you by our you mean those of us who grew up in the 1950s is that uh no i meant the what is it 85 when did that one start oh was there december 1st 1985 oh yeah for 10 years yeah a decade of perry mason this is a miniseries. Also, he came
Starting point is 00:14:05 back. Oh, see, that's how ignorant I am about Perry Mason. I didn't even know it was Raymond Burr in the fucking 50s one. I knew nothing of Perry Mason other than that when I saw one of the original Godzilla movies, somebody was like, you know, that's Perry Mason.
Starting point is 00:14:22 And I just thought that Raymond Burr's name was Perry Mason. Oh, shit. All right. just thought that Raymond Burr's name was Perry Mason. Oh, shit. All right. Shout out to Raymond Burr. Shout out to the local film scholar, me. But it's real good. They decided to reboot it, and it's super dark and fucked up.
Starting point is 00:14:40 Joelle, did you watch Plot Against America? We, yes. Wait, is that the one with the the david simon based on philip roth's book about uh if lindbergh had yes was that good that one it was good like moving on so what do you think is underrated okay uh what is something you think is overrated joelle uh ben shapiro is overrated except for when he does dramatic readings of rap songs who ben shapiro oh man yeah the rapper fucking ben rap hero i mean wow rapper, fucking Ben Rapero. I mean, wow. Wow. It's the best dramatic reading I've heard in a long time.
Starting point is 00:15:27 Someone likened it to like a 93 poetry slam reading. And I got that vibe. I definitely did. He was very much articulating his words in a certain way to try to make you feel like what you were hearing was ugly instead of maybe one of the most beautiful songs ever written. Now, this whole whole thing his like analysis or whatever you want to call it takedown of the wap video what was his like jet what's his end
Starting point is 00:15:51 thesis essentially what is the reason that this video had to be put in front of his audience he is mad because like many parents he believes that all adults should be uh good representatives for children as opposed to just the human beings that they are uh you know cardi b and mcstallion are not necessarily uh for your nine-year-old you can shield them from that level of entertainment yeah but he was like you know this is what feminism is this is what they want and if you say anything else they're gonna get you and it's like ben i just want you to know that as a feminist womanist person i believe believe that they have the right to do this but that should not be the definition of women and that's all we're saying but i mean but there's some
Starting point is 00:16:34 whores in this house what is going on okay we'll just let's just play should we play a little bit of it yeah because i like i saw everybody getting their jokes off and i knew he had done it but actually hearing ben Shapiro go through rap lyrics is really its own thing. Here are some of the lyrics. You ready? Whores in this house. There's some whores in this house. There's some whores in this house. There's some whores in this house. Hold up.
Starting point is 00:16:57 I said certified freak seven days a week. Wet ass P word. Make that pull out game week. Yeah, you happen with some wet ass p-word p-word is female genitalia bring a bucket and a mop for this wet ass p-word give me everything you got for this wet ass p-word beat it up n-word catch a charge extra large and extra hard put this p-word right in your face swipe your nose like a credit card hop on top i want to ride i do a kegel while
Starting point is 00:17:25 it's inside spit in my mouth this p word is wet come take a dive um come take a dive um hop on with your pullout game week it was it's funny because his face he's almost like he's never heard someone's mouth get that nasty before right So he's doing that thing where he's like, get a mop. Oh, my God. Are they talking? Oh, no. And do a kegel while it's inside. Park a Mack truck in your garage.
Starting point is 00:17:55 Oh, God. Poor wife. If that's how scared he is of the word pussy, like what must. I don't know, man. My favorite person on Twitter was like uh yeah ben shapiro has three kids so this is proof that he's had sex at least as many times y'all are so mean and ridiculous but also what oh man i try to imagine be like so that we want you to read all of these words out loud i would have liked to have seen his very first reading of the lyrics right he
Starting point is 00:18:25 probably fainted right like this is what happened no okay you know what happened the the video started trending on twitter so he looks at what's trending he goes okay what's this he checks it out he cannot believe he sees it but first the first time he watches it he fucking he's loving it he's like oh fuck yeah making oh my god look at the titties are shooting water out from the fountain. And then someone's like, hey, Ben, have you seen this video? He goes, what? No. What's going on?
Starting point is 00:18:52 What? Show me this. What is this? Whores in this house. There are some whores in this house. Hole up. I certified for seven days a week that pullout game week. What is pullout game?
Starting point is 00:19:03 A couch? A pullout couch? Is it because they don't have an actual bed huh you know he has like a text thread with his other racist friends where they're like into this video for like weird like i don't know whatever it is it sounds accurate though yeah i'm upset by it but i also believe it he's like you know i love the custodial play lyrics you know i'm into custodian play so when he when she said get that mop and bucket i was like right away roger stone is into the that sort of stuff uh i'm sure i'm sure ben's got a real uh second second side to his uh interests that yeah wouldn't be reflected. This is a character he plays.
Starting point is 00:19:47 Somebody retweeted a whole collection of his tweets where he's like, bend the brim of your hat and pull your damn pants up. Just the most... Not even dog whistling, but just the most transparently
Starting point is 00:20:02 old man racist takes. It's just like... You can't man racist takes and it's just like i mean you can't actually like be that mad about that but he's tweeted the same thing like eight times so obviously he's just like he is a racism algorithm basically yeah i mean if he's shocked by these lyrics he'll be shocked to find out what people were inspired by his words do. We're talking about some dangerous shit out there. Anyways, Joelle, thank you so much for bringing this to our attention. You had to know.
Starting point is 00:20:33 I did. What is something you think is overrated? Underrated? Yeah, let's do that instead of another overrated. Ben Shapiro's rap game. Mick Jenkins, I think, is highly underrated. And I just want to be like, if you're in the mood for some conscious rap
Starting point is 00:20:52 that you maybe haven't heard before that sinks under your skin and moves you, but is also just good as hell, Mick Jenkins is where it's at. I've been listening to Sunkissed, which is maybe the best song about being black ever written, aside from any song Beyonce sings about being black, to automatically
Starting point is 00:21:10 is number one for me. But yeah, get into some Mick Jenkins if you need that in your life, which you do. And finally, what is a myth? What's something people think is true you know to be false? So my brother and I have been looking at new cars a lot lately,
Starting point is 00:21:26 and we always believed that if you got a red car, that your insurance would go up and you're more likely to be pulled over. Nah, that's a myth. That's not a real thing. Apparently white cars get pulled over the most, which I was like, why? We don't know why. That just happens.
Starting point is 00:21:41 But get a red car and enjoy your life is what I'm saying. Wow, I had no idea. I definitely had heard that before. That just happens. But get a red car and enjoy your life is what I'm saying. Wow. I had no idea. I definitely had heard that before. I also heard red cars just actually go faster. Is that true? Scientifically? Scientifically, always.
Starting point is 00:21:57 Yeah. It's just like the fire trucks. Any red vehicle is going at least 20 miles over the speed limit. The one I remember of that one was that red cars cars got in more accidents huh oh i doubt that's true too and so that was like a thing where people talk about it and i think people just were like well it's associated with more reckless behavior uh but i don't know they're they're this is like this is like that shit that like people talk about in the early 90s and like ends up being like an accepted fact for like 30 years and they're like we should have looked it up we should have just looked that one
Starting point is 00:22:27 up google came around sounds like big white car paint is behind this one big white or the man yeah that's right all right guys let's take a quick break and we'll be right back This summer, the nation watched as the Republican nominee for president was the target of two assassination attempts, separated by two months. These events were mirrored nearly 50 years ago when President Gerald Ford faced two attempts on his life in less than three weeks. President Gerald R. Ford came stunningly close to being the victim of an assassin today. And these are the only two times we know of that a woman has tried to assassinate a U.S. president. One was the protege of infamous cult leader Charles Manson.
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Starting point is 00:26:16 Dream Sequence is a new horror thriller from Blumhouse Television, iHeartRadio, and Realm. Listen to Dream Sequence on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. And over the weekend, El Presidente managed to lick off a couple tweets talking about how he's saving the people from economic strife and the buzzer baby yeah he's he got it in i i don't know it seems like he's just trying to do this all via uh executive order you know and doing the thing where it's like most of the time when these eos happen they're like these are all like legally dubious like you're again doing the thing where you're like okay well i know there's money in FEMA for hurricanes.
Starting point is 00:27:08 That's not going to be an issue this year. So we'll take that money and move it over here. And I was like, you can't do that, sir. You can't do that. Can't do that. Or I mean, you can say that, but it's functionally very hard to do legally dubious, sir. So the things that he was out here is like, got a four-point plan to bring people back. This is what's going on.
Starting point is 00:27:28 Okay, just give me a quick bump real quick so I can get this imagination off. The first one was deferring payroll taxes through the end of the year for Americans earning less than $100,000. Then deferring student loan payments through the end of the year. Discouraging evictions.
Starting point is 00:27:44 Oh, nice. Discouraging them. year discouraging evictions oh nice discouraging them discourage the evictions don't make it illegal or actually you know create some kind of language that actually will prohibit any kind of evictions are happening but discourage them and uh extend enhanced unemployment benefits for people but at a a reduced level of $400 instead of $600. So a lot of people are first of all like, I don't think the president can decide when these taxes are collected. Like that's a whole other thing you're talking about, especially like not without Congress. What are you doing? And so most people, their response to all of this is just like, oh, okay, fine.
Starting point is 00:28:23 But the thing that really makes it even shittier than normal well it's all shitty but even hearing his surrogates go out on like the shows to try and explain what these were to journalists and people who like read the eos and trying to explain back was so painful larry cudlow went on cnn and spoke to to Dana Bash. And Dana Bash is just trying to figure out what they mean by any of this. Like, what do you mean 1,200? Who gets 1,200? And was that over 400, 800? How are those payments made up? Larry Kudlow cannot answer. Just listen to this and tell me how good you feel about our government. It's going to be a form of economic assistance. Probably you'll get $800 total, federal and state. And if we get it going
Starting point is 00:29:07 September 1st, which is what the deadline looks like, that probably gives the workforce an increase in wages. What do you mean $800 total? $1,200. Well, at a minimum, we will put in $300 and the states will continue with their 400 bucks. But I think all they have to do is put up an extra dollar and we'll be able to throw in the extra hundred dollars. So it should be a total. It should be may not be in every case, because, as you know, we're talking averages. Some states higher, some states lower. But on average, Dana, it'll run to about $800. That's about $1,200 wage increase. The executive action says $400 and that the state would pay 25% of this. You're talking about some other money that I don't know about. Well, we, you know, we will.
Starting point is 00:30:01 Again, very simple. Like Dana Bash, you could hear when she goes, huh? But her face was sort of like this. He's just talking, well, at the very least, at least he's talking in $400 increments, $400, $800, $1,200. So there's some logic to these numbers, but still very unclear like what that means. And the thing they were getting at is that there's this whole, you know, sort of plan to have the states put up a quarter of this 400 payment so they would only have to put up 100 the
Starting point is 00:30:31 federal government comes into the additional 300 is what he was trying to describe and then they put in a dollar and then we're gonna show up with a few more and're going to make sure it's all taken care of, Dana. So that's all this is. And it's not even, it's just another way for like the federal government to hold this over states. We're like, oh, you can't pay that hundred? Oh, well, wait, what are you doing over here, blue state or whatever? It's just, it's all nonsense. And the president, again, trying to take care of, take credit for something that just doesn't really connect one more thing i feel like his executive orders are the equivalent of a tweet
Starting point is 00:31:11 that ends maybe that's something is that something oh yeah it's not fully thrown or like don't at me right you know i mean don't at me you get 1200 don't at me because i don't know what but just don't at me because it will fall apart upon further examination. Peter Navarro later that day went on to NBC's Meet the Press. And I just want to play this thing about there's this whole thing about discouraging eviction. And the way that Peter Navarro, like as Chuck Todd starts it off, he's like, that doesn't seem good that you're just merely just like guidance. That doesn't actually stop anyone from doing it. And Peter Navarro comes through with the brilliant defense.
Starting point is 00:31:51 Confident that every single one of those orders which cleared through the Office of Legal Counsel will stand up. If you look, for example, at the eviction and foreclosure language, in your opener there, you noted the words, shall consider. Well, that's how you have to write it, but everybody knows in that bureaucracy that you damn well should do it, and they will. Yeah. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:32:20 Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. Yeah, shall consider. Any company shall consider being humane to its employees or whatever. Like this. It's not that like we we've done such large bailouts on massive scales for corporations. And I can't wrap my mind around not being able to offer the same things to the citizens of our country. Oh,
Starting point is 00:32:56 it's very easy because then it becomes socialism when it's human cares and human needs that are met with government assistance. But if it's a faceless corporation it's called why i had to hook him up but we can't pay corporations if our citizens don't have money in their pot like it's just yeah i try and understand it from like a just a stupid level like if i don't go into the actual politics of it if i don't go into the actual math of it but just when you have a society that's run off of uh a place where you have to spend money in order to just be a living human being, I don't understand how we're supposed to make this. No one does.
Starting point is 00:33:32 Massive evictions are coming. I can't believe there's no plan. Like, every day I'm like, oh, I'm 30. Maybe I should be the adult and have, like, solutions. The cynical version is that the plan is for these people to go into foreclosure and then wealthier people who are liquid enough can come in and buy up all that, all those houses or banks can buy them up and then rent them back to people who will not actually own them. I mean, like, it's like it's just like a lot of wealth redistribution. Like, I feel like that's the only solution is that most of America will start to look like skid row in the next year and a half i mean so many i mean if you think about there's so many cities whose infrastructure has fallen by the wayside because of lack of funding like it's so many levels that it's not hard to see many places that already look like that but yeah i think that's where
Starting point is 00:34:17 again they i think because it's not as visible yet it's easy to just sort of do have this like kick the can down the road mentality because none of these people for damn sure know anybody who's you know underwater on like any kind of rent or mortgage or something and is in dire need of assistance yeah i i feel like visuals of like america looking like skid row like are not gonna are not gonna do the trick because it's so easy for the mainstream media to ignore any story that like really gets at the fundamental like flaws of the country flaws of the country like that's i actually i wanted to talk about these two stories i don't know i was just like taking a step back and looking at where we are with how the mainstream is covering them
Starting point is 00:35:05 as related to kind of when we first started talking about them, when the story kicked off. The two storylines being when people started protesting the lynching of George Floyd in the streets, if you had told them the net result would be that three and a half months later, the police and like police sympathizers aka like pro-fascist causes would team up to beat protesters with impunity and the mainstream media would just kind of be turning the other way like that that's just shocking the like it's just
Starting point is 00:35:41 taking a stock of where we are on that story it just seems like nobody pays attention as that is happening well like but we talked about this when all this all the uprisings and unrest began right is that systems like oppressive systems like this that they survive by the media not paying attention to it so only time we've gotten the media to pay attention was when there was looting of the stores which is even the story in chicago over the weekend not about why people were protesting in the first place so that is not the headline the headline is all the oh chicago what's going on over there it's so disingenuous because at the end of the day, they all rely on each other to exist. Like the media can't get too sober eyed on what the issues
Starting point is 00:36:33 are in this country or else people like then it stands to disrupt too many of the status quo, like industries and the way of doing business right now um and you know i'm sure with like many companies too there are plenty of people who work at jobs who are like yeah man that blm energy was was was something in at the in the beginning of june uh and the shit evaporated within two weeks uh haven't heard anything since it's just kind of one that's just sort of the pattern the rhythm of the country and i think that's why a lot of activists black people anyone who had really been keeping an eye on these kinds of issues were like don't do the thing that's gonna happen every time which is like just a little bit of something and then just enough to feel like we've done something to completely ignore it until it bubbles up again
Starting point is 00:37:22 and we have to actually not deal with it again i mean it's absolutely going to happen that way like we we exist on a six-year cyclical cycle of like oh here's the big bill that came out of the 16th the civil rights bill that was added to yes it was added like six years after that we see one of the worst regressions of american culture and you can see it in like like i i'm a studier of like entertainment and the ways we interact with it and like if you look at song of the south which is disney's like very racist depiction of slave stories and slave narratives uh it has its biggest box office break in 1986 when it does reruns and it's a very much a like cultural touchstone of like what was happening population-wise and thought process-wise of these people got too much freedom.
Starting point is 00:38:09 Wouldn't it be great to go back to the day and experience a time when people knew their place and slaves were happy to just have a job, which is just crazy. I can't believe it. I was just eating beans in the movie theater, and this teenager yelled at me for eating beans in the theater i just it is it is the wildest thing to me and i knew we were i knew we were fucked when um day like three of massive protests were outside and we see a bunch of people at the ritzy mall in beverly hills just eating staring at us like we're crazy we're going to protest and they're having tea in the middle of a pandemic and it was the most just jarring realization and i think it happened in brooklyn maybe three or four oh yeah there are there are some really interesting images of like the two americas basically
Starting point is 00:38:56 brushing shoulders right yeah shout outs to whoever was leading the the protest rants at that time because as they were passing the very fancy diner full of only white people started chanting like gentra gentra gentrifiers at them as a crowd of black and brown people walked down the street protesting for their rights so it's to me i like it's no justice no brunch was another one i heard people oh yikes yeah burn them um i i kind of feel like i've turned more into my father who 10 years ago when i was like i gotta protest and get in the streets he's like i don't understand what you're doing and i was like this is a protest for our rights and make change he's like they are not gonna
Starting point is 00:39:34 change darling and it's there's nothing at this stage that you can do other than try to like use the best of your light you know tony morrison who again i've been jiving with a lot lately had the the forethought to go hey me trying to tell you why your thoughts are racist is a waste of time and i feel like as like citizens i love what you guys do you guys are great at like bringing it down explaining it to like the average everyday person i feel like is as an american citizen right now so many of us are just trying to get through and the idea of moving away from I'm going to explain to you in detail why what you're doing is wrong as opposed to spending my time Toni Morrison spent her time
Starting point is 00:40:14 editing the great uh works of black people so she like she did the Muhammad Ali story which gave us a lot of inspiration going forward out of like being able to say no to our country when we believe in a righteous cause things like that so i don't know that's i'm trying to do that in my own bubble as an artist as a person working as a writer is just doing my best to focus on illuminating the the good parts of us as a community because i i think miles that we don't have a choice but to go through this again and again and again i think that's the american curse the but yeah and the world and it's again even like i said you know begging white allies to help because that again it doesn't change until we reach a tipping point of of white people um also feeling just as enraged by this and it's increasing but absolutely everything we're seeing we haven't reached we're not even close to that
Starting point is 00:41:03 tipping point yet shout Shout out to Portland. Make it work. Trying. Yeah, trying to. And then, yeah, but even to that Chicago story, another failure of the media to rather than saying, let's as let's, you know, as whatever journalists, whatever, whoever are journalists now putting the focus on what is actually happening and being honest with ourselves about what we are as a country like the major you know mainstream media is just sort of like oh and that's happening there i'm like let's not get too into it you know it's like sort of like uncomfortable like dinner conversation we're like oh what about your one son that like flunked out of school because they're partying too much like let's not talk about that right you know
Starting point is 00:41:42 let's just say he's yeah like he's um he's exploring his options right now uh rather than like saying like you know he doesn't have shit together maybe we were indulging him and enabling him to not do much but let's not really talk about that in the same way like the police would be like a group of police supporters rallied outside the courthouse like no these are cops who are also racist who came to help their friend out in court like you know there's a lot of just euphemistic de-racialized talk around things that are so inherently racial too that it really can obscure like what the meaning is for a lot of people if they're not fully checked in we saw that video of in the aftermath of one of the early uprisings of
Starting point is 00:42:22 the cops talking to like people who were white supremacists or you know on the right uh just like telling them what their plan was and like where to be in order to get in trouble off duty exactly fort collins over the weekend this past weekend there was a back the blue rally uh anti-racism protesters showed up to counter protest they were chased two blocks beaten severely by a gang of quote police supporters and then the cops showed up and arrested the victims of the beating that's the word we use now because i guess police already means racist so right police just rather than racism police supporters police like what what i mean this is why i think if you remember a couple weeks back there were a bunch of people like across the United States that were found hanging from trees.
Starting point is 00:43:09 They were all black. And then quickly, as we have seen during quarantine, speculation and rumor began to spread like, oh, there are like coordinated lynchings happening across the states. I'm not a big conspiracy theory person. I love reading about them, but I think oftentimes we're not that coordinated to pull off really grand conspiracies. But I understand why there was the thought, because it feels, and especially if you've read a lot of history about lynchings, there's a couple of really great books out there that have like first-person eyewitness recounts from Black communities about how they changed after like these lynchings happened it feels like we're days away it feels like we are days away from a public lynching that
Starting point is 00:43:48 will most likely go unpunished as we've seen like as we've seen happen time and time again and it's it's it's crazy because things are working the way that they're supposed to and i think that's what's most frustrating about it if you think about the cops and original intent to catch runaway slaves if you think about who supports them and why and if you think about the cops and original intent to catch runaway slaves if you think about who supports them and why and if you think about the fact that america's been on the same cycle for years and years and years it's just it's a matter of time before we see it again and it's uh state sanctioned lynchings have been happening yeah but i i do feel strongly that there seems to be like less people impacted by it less people seem to care. I don't know if it's just fatigue of it happening and we getting used to it or what. There's a consistent experience of
Starting point is 00:44:31 the bad thing being done out in the open, the horrifying consequence happening as a result of that. And because it's so straightforward, everyone's just like, yeah, I guess that happened. Like the other story that is totally different, but also feels similarly, like it's just been taken for granted that the fascists won this story
Starting point is 00:44:58 as Russia interfering. Whatever your political leanings, if you believe the actual journalism from the ground trump's 2016 campaign at least benefited from interference by russia he won't admit that those two facts and any democratic presidency would be between disqualifying and like defining uh and it's just been kind of like i realized because nancy pelosi was talking about russia interfering like a couple days ago and my initial reaction to that was all right move on guys who cares like it's an it's just like yo like yeah well because it says it's as wild as
Starting point is 00:45:41 being like i remember in the in the during the election when those stories started bubbling up. And I was like, get the fuck out of here. I remember I was gobsmacked at the notion that a presidential candidate was enlisting the help of a hostile, you know, whatever, rival nation to get elected. And then in my mind, it's like one of those things like damn there's no way this country's gonna let that shit happen like that just sounds like textbook anti-america shit you're gonna let russia come in here and fuck everything really like i felt like that was the one you know post-world war ii consistent sort of bogey country that like they could drum up fear of like with iran like oh russia too and then china for economic reasons or whatever but i could not believe i was like okay well that either that didn't happen or it happened
Starting point is 00:46:31 and they're gonna sort that shit out because that is so antithetical to what i at the time thought how they're like what the guardrails were but they were all there they were illusions yeah and it is really hard to think now that we're just sort of like yeah i mean at what point you know it's like it's like a truck hop the curb and crash through a gate into like uh like an elementary school and then got almost to like the kindergarten classrooms but there's so many tragedies happening along the way we don't know which one to address first like oh my god the driver was, it was asleep.
Starting point is 00:47:05 It's like, yeah, but then it hopped the gate and smashed through the wall. Like, Oh my God, the wall. And then what about the kids? Like,
Starting point is 00:47:10 well, it didn't get there. I'm like, wait, but the driver was asleep. It's like, yeah, but hold on.
Starting point is 00:47:13 It almost hit the kindergarten kids. And you, there's like so many steps that were like, you know, it's just so destabilized. Yeah. It's too, too many things all at once.
Starting point is 00:47:23 But I mean, if you look at the Mueller report, like the shit that gets described there is wild. It's just we moved on to the next overt act of fascism by the Trump administration before we fully digested the Mueller report because the, you know, Ukraine thing popped up. you know ukraine uh thing popped up so right and then people were like well they lost that news cycle and then that just became the story that i feel like yeah how we digested that more people i think also need to just get motivated to like if you can serve in public office and you have the wherewithal to do that consider it you know like i feel like if if we had an the wherewithal to do that consider it you know like i feel like if if we had an inexhaustible like just well of like qualified candidates to just like go in get voted out but like get shit done you know that's there are ways too people don't have the funds like to be a candidate you need to be like retired and have all of the time or be wealthy enough to have somebody
Starting point is 00:48:22 supporting you or be the kind of person that's a boundless level of energy plus a support system that'll get you like it is i mean i think it's admirable to to like want to encourage people to go in but there's still so many i think to your previous point there's just so many lines and boundaries to cross before we can like it feels like we can tackle any of the problems and i know that's such a downer note but i like i've seen people go through, like my grandmother was mayor pro temp for her community for like 10 years. And I know how much money and how much like actual time. And if you're like a parent of two children and you have a full-time job and
Starting point is 00:48:58 you need all of that to sustain everybody, how are you supposed to begin breaking into that process? You know? And on top of that, we have an education system that doesn't teach our children like how our government works i think people who are going to go run for office like no they have the ability to do that but i wouldn't necessarily get immediately discouraged by like the sort of like phone book biopsy version that jack talks about like on pod save america how like the dnc will, okay, who you got on your phone? Okay, you're too broke to run. Because we've seen plenty of real grassroots candidates
Starting point is 00:49:28 elevate and enter office without the traditional infrastructure of the moneyed industries behind it. All that to say is we're seeing multiple versions of what politicians are and the people who enter politics. They're the people who are just like, I want to be the most popular person in my part of the state and run for office. Or like, we just need more purpose driven things because they're far too few. They're far few people, not enough people who are able to at least just cut through all the dumb like wonk speak and like talking points and just get to the heart of the matter about like, we're hurting,
Starting point is 00:50:05 like we're hurting and none of y'all are give a shit. Listening to the BLM meetings with like the LA city council has been rather uplifting because those are people that are not just politicians, but active community members where I find myself turning more and more to be like, how do we actually incite action in not just like a manageable way, but in a tangible way. I think so many times,
Starting point is 00:50:28 like we got this big thing passed, people are like, when do I personally feel the impact of that change? And it won't be for a very long time. So to see like a lot of citizens who are connected, who have worked together to make very clear statements about like, what does it mean to defund the police and how they intend to like,
Starting point is 00:50:44 move this particular city forward. I think that's been the most uplifting thing to come out of this quarantine set of politics we've been under. Someone should make a podcast that's about how to affect change. Oh, wait, Joelle, you're working on one right now. I did, I did.
Starting point is 00:51:01 Like, what is power? Yeah, we're having a moment with Baratunde Thurston, who's much smarter about these things than I am and is a member of his community and connected to a lot of strong voices, if you want to understand how we reach this political moment. at least the first two episodes maybe the first three of uh how to citizen which is his next podcast which is like part salon part q a interview aspect of like what does it mean to be a citizen in america i'm learning a lot from him he's helping me be less of a downer about where our country is that there's a lot to be inspired by there and i know a lot of people are like yo this shit this shit is getting mad doomer up in here. You know, how to citizen and like the way Baratunde talks
Starting point is 00:51:50 about the issues that are going on, even his like point of view is very refreshing. So yeah, at the very least, you check out, we're having a moment. And this has turned into a very organic plug for the iHeart Podcast Network. Paying bills. Yeah, it does.
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Starting point is 00:56:27 So just that's something to mentally gird yourself for. And then- Which, I mean, isn't a bad thing. They're just saying there's just gonna be so many mail-in people now with the pandemic. It's just like how even the midterms and like Paul Ryan was like, I mean, I thought we were in the lead before these like votes got counted.
Starting point is 00:56:44 Right, but remember how that story started to go out as the, where was the blue wave? And it took like a month before people fully were like, yeah, there was a blue wave. Like the story was not full. And like people, there were races that were getting overturned.
Starting point is 00:57:03 If something like that happens where Trump's up and then votes are coming in late for Biden that give him the win, I think we're in some real trouble as a country because that will be litigated to hell. and then uh just one other uh doomy gloomy story before we get to uh carol baskin uh is just that that's georgia school that reopened with all those wild images they have i think nine cases uh that have been announced already and the student uh who was suspended for taking those pictures is now getting threats uh so shout out to uh that whole wave threats for a photo in a high school hallway what yeah because like you know it's just everything anything that threatens to disrupt this idealized like version of like trump's reality that some people have just full-on bought into because like that's the last like soothing blanket they have to wrap themselves in while everything is falling apart. So it's like, don't don't come at me with your takes about how this might be wrong.
Starting point is 00:58:14 So like even a student who's brave enough, not even brave, just being like, yo, I'm at risk. Look at this shit. I'm 15. This is the Internet. This is how we do shit like that. this is the internet this is how we do shit like that that is now seen as someone who needs to be threatened just shows you how fragile the mindset is for a lot of the supporters because anything that disrupts that is like like no you're threatening my existence now by taking a photo in a high school because that means that dr fauci was right and then that means dr donald trump is wrong and then if he's wrong what am i wrong about about? No, no, no, no, no. Fuck you. 15 year old child. I'm threatening, you know,
Starting point is 00:58:46 it's like, Ooh, Ooh, that is, I really thought the worst thing we had to deal with was being suspended, which I was like, what are you doing school? That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:58:56 I know they lifted, I know they lifted that, but it's just, I, what, what did you expect? Children have phones. Like,
Starting point is 00:59:02 I know. And, and of course everybody's going to be like, there's some bullshit going Like, I don't. And of course, everybody's going to be like, there's some bullshit going on. I don't. Oh, man, man,
Starting point is 00:59:09 it's crazy to me that people are like, it's not worth protecting the children or the teachers that work there. Get back to work. Things to do. And yeah, in, in standard, you know,
Starting point is 00:59:20 Fox news tactic for dealing with any sort of, uh, nightmarish behavior, uh, that's coming from their side. They freak out and talk about, like, Tucker Carlson made up a story where the New York Times was going to dox him, got the New York Times reporter doxed. But the right really is going in hard on doxing anybody who is revealing some fundamental fracture in the validity of their worldview, such as Fauci's daughters and family. It's the same thing. If you really fucked with JNCO jeans and you still wear Jinko jeans and there are some anybody who is being like yo dude them shits are whack you're gonna not fuck with that person like you're not gonna hang out with them and you're probably gonna surround yourself with other jinko jean wearing motherfuckers
Starting point is 01:00:15 or jinko jean enablers right much in the same way with like their racism and things like that it's like wait you want to make me self-aware about my race and get the fuck over there because i need to go to my soothing place of racist enablers and fellow racists so we can continue to be like yeah yeah this is it this is the ticket jinko jeans yeah it's just jinko jeans are cool so that that is a big difference yeah okay so i could have picked up yeah i could have picked a better one so i'll say uh a penicillin okay uh because that's bad uh well let's talk about carol baskin guys it's time to check back in uh with uh her take on that no one asked for well you know you don't you don't read my journal so you don't know that's true but uh she had some
Starting point is 01:01:03 thoughts on the web video she really did uh because the video had everything uh you know unnecessary cameos from kylie jenner just walking uh boob fountains we talked about that twerking uh and exotic cats enter carol baskin so her take is on in the video you see some exotic cats i believe some tigers and shit clearly um the video was not shot in a real palace with all that shit in there it uh most definitely was shot on a green screen uh so she says when talking about the cats quote uh my guess is that most people won't even see the photoshop cats in the scenes because the rest of it is so lurid oh carol so she starts it and it's like i was happy to see that it does appear to all be photoshopped green screened um it didn't look like the cats were really in the rooms with the singers in fact
Starting point is 01:01:56 probably most of the rooms were photoshopped in via green screen all right thanks so much i get most of my behind the scenes uh info from Carol Baskin. She gives really good insight into how they accomplish all these different things. She basically dragged George Lucas into starting Industrial Light and Magic. Right. Yeah. In terms of like changing visual effects. She was like, you can't just Photoshop all this stuff.
Starting point is 01:02:21 You can't just Photoshop this Star Destroyer, George, into your movie films. So the next thing she said is like, okay, thank God they're green screen. But that being said, you have to pose a wildcat in front of a green screen to get that image, and that doesn't happen in the wild. Okay, so it can't happen in sanctuaries like ours where cats have plenty of room to avoid a green screen. And then she puts a parenthetical or would shred it if offered access and could die from ingesting it. That tells me they probably dealt with one of the big cat pimps who makes a living from beating shocking and starving cats to make them stand in front of a green screen. That's sort of it. But I like how she is at least raising awareness of green screen
Starting point is 01:03:05 ingestion the risks of green screen ingestion for wild cats um because you know those darn cats like every cartoon i remember they would just be eating shredding up that chroma key green sheet for a green screen always always uh that's i mean that's great to hear that she's out here kind of piecing all that information together. Yeah, that's why it feels like a non-comment. Like, all she said was like, yeah, that looks like green screen, and I don't like that, and I'm good to cats. I'll say that, and they won't eat my green screens. Can I go now? I'm Carole Baskin.
Starting point is 01:03:41 Now that Carole Baskin has proven her expertise in Photoshop, do you think the police have to go back over her records when they open a case about her husband? Just looking at those documents. Right, right, right. She's amazing, actually. She is skilled. She really pulled a fast one on us. But yeah, I was hoping when she said lure it,
Starting point is 01:04:02 I'm like, ooh, come on, no, no, no. Avoid the cats. Now I want to hear Carol Baskin's conservative lady take on the WAP video. I can't even. See, now what is that viewing like? We know what Ben Shapiro's is. It was in secret, and he was feeling the video. But Carole Baskin, did she just see the cat, and then the rest of the time, she was like, oh, no.
Starting point is 01:04:21 It's one of the big cat pimps. I think Carole was really excited about the leopard zebra print. no it wasn't even zebra it was like a white tiger print stuff because you know she'd be wearing the patterns and i think she was like look at this style inspo you know she was ready she was like i really need like my white leopard bustier i have to get in on that fashion game she's about to go on wish and buy the wild chinese knockoff version and then she's gonna like her husband she's like honey get your mop and bucket out you know i love that print from the video to her credit she's i did not remember that there were wild cats in the video uh and i'm still not totally sure that's accurate okay Okay, yeah. I see.
Starting point is 01:05:05 White tiger, there it is. I think they're almost so purely, it's just one has just been inverted to create that symmetry where I'm like, yeah, they got out of that one shot. Yeah. This is the equivalent of your local snake guy being like, those snakes didn't look healthy
Starting point is 01:05:23 that were on their body yeah that one scene i think those yeah they were the ones that they were actually on set for as they said in their interviews because them shits were scary apparently but that is by no means picking a fight with snake people uh shout out to y'all i know you're terrifying and uh don't fuck with snake twitter they'll come in your mentions like a soccer player who just switched teams that's like the Don't fuck with snake Twitter. They'll come in your mentions like a soccer player who just switched teams. That's like the thing they always do. The snake.
Starting point is 01:05:51 You fucking snake. Anyway, sorry. Snake Twitter. Are you talking about Taylor Swift Twitter? Everyone. I just love when people really go in on the snake emoji. Because people who try and fuck with you with that snake emoji, they really feel like that's really tearing you down like the volume of snakes listen i get it go off enjoy we do it to like soccer players who like like robin van percy who played for
Starting point is 01:06:15 arson he went to manchester united that's a no-no so you're gonna get all up in your in your fucking mentions so intimidating it's It's violence, if you ask me. What do you think is, what would be an unnerving emoji to get? Like, just to get. In mass? Yeah. Because like, I'm like, the snake's too cute.
Starting point is 01:06:37 I feel like there's something like just more simple that is like actually like, oh, I don't know. That, you know what? Credit to you. You freaked me out. I feel like the violins because most horror scores are led by violins i just feel like why why are violins coming for me or violinists those people are dedicated to their craft that's a lot of hours
Starting point is 01:06:53 you gotta put in right i'm definitely petrified of violent community or if someone just hits you with like the the fried shrimp one over and over i'm trying fuck are you trying to say? What the fuck? Am I fried? Do I have an exoskeleton on my exterior? What is this? Let's check in with Disney because we are always concerned about our future overlord.
Starting point is 01:07:20 What is going on? We knew that they opened a few weeks back uh i'd seen some uh photo journals of people's days at the on on various disney rides that looked creepy uh and not fun but i i'm assuming that you know there there's enough disney fans out there to have made this a rousing success well yeah that was like the fear i think a lot of people had uh but it turns out that might not be it so magic kingdom and hollywood studios are now closing an hour earlier every day epcot and disney world uh epcot and then animal kingdom are like have their hours cut down by two hours.
Starting point is 01:08:10 And this is going to start at the beginning of next month, like through October, TBD kind of thing. And then on an earnings call, because, hey, that's where the real decisions are made, whether or not to treat people humanely. On this earnings call, they were like, we lost $3.5 billion from the parks being shut down. And you hate to see it. I mean, where is Disney going to come up with that kind of money? You'd never know where it could come from. So they're really struggling, thoughts and prayers. So they, yeah, it just turns out that surprisingly, there are far less people who are as reckless as we all thought there would be. Because we thought it was like, oh shit, here we go. People are just going to go. But I think when you really think about it, with the amount of international travel that's cut down for like the kinds of people who would go there or people
Starting point is 01:08:48 who would fly across country to make that a trip you're now just sort of like limiting yourselves to like pandemic deniers who live within driving distance of you know the park right which to be fair i know disney banks a lot on his like local pass holder community to like sort of cover its base um if you've ever been to disney out here in southern california oh you know it's a lot of families favorite place on earth and it's a fun time i'm not gonna lie there's liquor there it's a dream um but let's i will say okay so about disney parks being open one the dystopian footage has been way cool did you see the horse almost take out merida like two weeks ago that shit was wild i was like it's really happening like they had the balloon on its legs yeah we're getting so close to the to a zombie apocalypse like feel because i think
Starting point is 01:09:35 this is maybe the closest knock wood this is the closest sorry explain this to me what happened okay so sometimes the characters will be like riding through the park, right? So Merida is... On a horse. Yeah, right. Merida is a princess from Brave. That's a Disney Pixar princess. And she's on the horse and she has two people on either side like leading the horse. So it's supposed to be like a safety thing. Something spooks the horse and it starts bucking.
Starting point is 01:09:59 And the actress on the back is... She's doing her best to stay in character. She's like, whoa, okay. And then she like jumps down in her very princess way but then things get weird because now it's bucking and like rearing its back leg so she's like hoofing it the guys are like trying to hold the horse down and you're just like this place should not be open the horse knows he's aware it's a scary environment and then it was like a child's balloon got let go so then yeah and it was like one of those mylar balloons that had like a
Starting point is 01:10:26 like a like a weight at the end of the ribbon so like you know it's sort of hard for like a kid to like completely fuck their day up and let go so but the wind carried like this basically was like a bolo like old school hunting like leg snare that was like got caught in the horse's legs and you're like oh because you see the dad like oh shit he like realizes it's like gone he's like fuck and then the horse starts bucking he's like oh shit i don't know what happened there uh but yeah it's it really is the local pass holder thing man i used i thought ap was a gang when i saw those bumper stickers out here i was like who the fuck is ap like i remember ap from like that used to be asian pride like the 90s gang in the san gabriel valley i'm like what is their back and then you would Pride like the 90s gang in the San Gabriel Valley. I'm like, what is their back? And then you would see
Starting point is 01:11:05 like the mouse head and you're like, okay, this is for annual pass holders. Didn't realize that was like some it got that heavy. They are a bit of a gang, man. They know all the territories that you should hit and when to stay out of certain areas. They're familiar with the entire menu
Starting point is 01:11:21 and they're like the weird thing the weird video out of the disney world reopening was they released limited edition merch which is how you get a lot of annual pass holders to come on like a busy weekend where they typically wouldn't come they're like here's new merch bye bye bye uh you only get it now and you need to fill out your disney collectibles that store was great people were like piling on top of each other to get a t-shirt it's not like welcome home or some shit it wasn't even a good shirt. I was like, Disney has great merch.
Starting point is 01:11:47 That wasn't it. I don't understand anything about why you would come to this park unless you were there specifically to get drone footage of what it would look like if we actually had a zombie apocalypse. Thank you to those people who risked their lives and gave me some great Twitter content. I really appreciated it. I do wonder what the White Rabbits are up to right now.
Starting point is 01:12:03 The gang that roams Disneyland and like takes out other gangs yeah we never got to the bottom of what happened with that legal dispute because the gangs were like suing each other in court a while ago we need to just start our own Disneyland gang
Starting point is 01:12:18 I mean like we already got a zeit gang so like let's just take it to Disney you know what I mean and then like be like you know how racist this ride is fam get off which park do you guys own i see you guys fucking heavy with like tomorrowland maybe they've got good toy story rides over there yeah maybe and i like the what is it the what's the pizza place uh pizza pizza planet yeah or pizza planet yeah yeah yeah i fuck with pizza planet um i like the cars area but i also like overrun i like a little blue bayou you know i'm not gonna lie you know it's a peaceful spot you can't go wrong pirates of the caribbean exactly and i can eat my sourdough bread bowl
Starting point is 01:12:55 cloud chowder in peace and i yes i eat the whole bowl i'm not some fucking wasteful, wastrel who will only eat the chowder and then toss a fully fine sourdough bowl out. No, sir. I'm sorry. Y'all are going to have to wait 45 minutes for me to eat this whole thing. I don't care how hot it is. We're here in August. You eat the bowl first, which is really impressive. Yeah, it's very messy.
Starting point is 01:13:18 I eat it like an apple. Yeah. Like an apple. It's just pouring down your shirt. Oh, yeah. I mean mean as Megan yeah exactly what's that one uh
Starting point is 01:13:28 get your whiskers wet yeah as Megan the stallion says gobble me swallow me drip down the side of me and how I be eating that sourdough bread bowl oh my god you see the bread bowl saying that to you yeah it's like gobble me swallow me drip down the stomach yes sir thank you sourdough bread bowl don't mind
Starting point is 01:13:52 if i do yeah sorry joelle what were you saying somebody took the uncensored version of the music and put it over the video so we could enjoy it as it was meant to be enjoyed because you cannot understand what megane Stallion is saying in the censored version. You can't get into the jam if every other word is bleeped out. It's very annoying. Nobody's life got messed up because they heard the explicit version.
Starting point is 01:14:18 Ben Shapiro did. He was unprepared. Well, that's because he was not engaging with this material at a younger age. See, that's the problem. It shocked with this material at a younger age see that's the problem what was back in the day bt used to do run cut uncut uncut thank you uncut era how because this is i was telling i was when jack and i were watching like yeah this is like some uncut shit like this used to be i remember the fucking put it on the glass video i was like what is going on i'm a child but also uh people don't know they're asleep i'm put to channel 74 um it really yeah
Starting point is 01:14:51 we used to have that repository for videos just too this isn't even in a strip club okay you know you don't know what filth is this is they got they're owning their own shit like what's the problem here right and i should have been like excuse me carol baskin cat pimp i mean let's change let's change that terminology a little bit right yeah seriously work on that carol yeah work on that carol aside from covering the murders well joelle it is a pleasure having you thank you uh where can people find you and follow you uh yeah i'm joel monique you can find me all over the internet at joel monique it's j-o-e-l-l-e-m-o-n-i-q-u-e
Starting point is 01:15:31 and you do have a hit show that you uh made reference to earlier what what what is that tell us about that come check out fake doctors real friends i almost did uh donald fazan's oprah voice which is a classic and you can hear it every week when we take on a fan call. It's a Scrubs rewatch show with Zach and Donald, the stars of Scrubs. And yeah, we watch one episode, two episodes a week, and then they sort of recap the episode,
Starting point is 01:15:56 but mostly they're talking about their lives and weird things going on in the world. And sometimes we get really cool behind-the-scenes stories about Oliver Stone from John C. McGinley. Bill Lawrence, the creator creator comes on a lot and he tells us all about what he was thinking in the writers room it's a lovely fun show
Starting point is 01:16:11 Daniel who all of your fans know is also on the show he lends his brilliant voice to it I love it it's so great hey there cutie what's up Daniel just came back in the room looking like a precious look yeah yeah and you get to hear some joelle on there as well yeah a little bit a little bit is there a tweet or some other work
Starting point is 01:16:35 of social media you've been enjoying this morning kiki palmer tweeted if i started a millennial view who would you have on the panel and i was ready ready. I was like, I'm seriously going to message her and be like, so call me at iHeart. What can we do for you? Kiki Palmer is everything to me. She is the icon, the goddess. She's from Illinois, so she gets the culture. But also, she's funny. She has a southern alter ego.
Starting point is 01:16:59 She has pop albums. And she used to have a talk show. That's gone now, so I get why she's pivoting to a view like status she's ready kiki if you're asking me me i think jordan woods would be good on camera doing like opinion takes if not i bet she's a good interviewer if she's not i can make her a good interviewer how do we make this happen kiki palmer i want to see your version of the view i bet it would be amazing oh yeah yeah i'm a big fan too yeah you loved her in the old guard i'm an idiot
Starting point is 01:17:28 i can see jack could see me smiling like i was about to remember the whole time i jack was clocking me in the zoom call he was like oh boy i got it messed up i got it i'm old i'm old i am old as fuck and is that the same Kiki from the Drake song oh no is she riding and does she love him oh my god
Starting point is 01:17:55 that's all so believable I'm sure our audience you know somebody was like is that the same Kiki from Kiki Do You Love Me are you riding this you send it to her um
Starting point is 01:18:06 miles where can people find you what's tweet you've been enjoying oh man twitter instagram sometimes playstation network miles of gray i realize that some people aggressively misspell my name but get my handle right which is really upsetting because i guess it auto fills it's m-i-l-e-s g-r-a-y uh don'tG-R-A-Y. People. Don't worry about it. Let's just get past Jack. M-I-L-E-S. We paid too much in therapy to deal with this on air. Okay?
Starting point is 01:18:32 Just tired of it, Miles. Just sick of it. Just absolutely sick of it. They do it to my wife, too. They think her name is S-A-R-A. Well, actually, I'm not going to talk about her. But they do it to my wife, too, and it's annoying. My wife.
Starting point is 01:18:44 My wife. So let's now talk about... Oh, also, my other podcast, 420 Day Fiance. You watch 90 Day Fiance? You like it? You want to hear some of my takes on it with Sophia Alexander? Well, he's on grass. Hopping that one. On grass.
Starting point is 01:18:56 On that loud. On that gas. That thing on that dead body because it's stinking. That front row at the lake show because it's Jack Nicholson. Anyway, I used to call that shit nicknames for drugs. Anyway, some tweets that I liked. First one's from past guest Alan Strickland Williams, at Totally Alan.
Starting point is 01:19:14 He tweeted, Gary wet ass Busey. Oh, no. Oh, no. Oh, shit. Oh, my God. It's so stupid and then uh and then uh at helen she said if you have flappy bird on your phone don't delete it or you can't get it back i just love that because that's a tweet from what five fucking years ago basically when flappy bird people were buying phones that had flappy bird still on it so they could play the game. I went back with that one.
Starting point is 01:19:46 Oh yeah, that's right. They did get rid of that game, didn't they? Or it may have come back or whatever, but I remember at the time it was like the most coveted app that people were just buying phones because they still had whatever. Shout out to also a terrible reality. Some tweets I've been
Starting point is 01:20:01 enjoying at Brennan Baller tweeted, teachers used to really have beef with me like bro I'm 12 same what the fuck was wrong this one teacher I would say her name out loud but I'm not gonna do it I still hate mine to this day too
Starting point is 01:20:22 to this day Vanessa Gritton but I'm not going to do one. I still hate mine to this day, too, Miles. To this day! Vanessa Gritton, Zeitgang guest, hilarious human, tweeted, bidets have two settings, Neptune's playful kiss and you are a hand puppet now. You can find me on Twitter, Jack underscore O'Brien.
Starting point is 01:20:41 You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, DailyZeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes. We link off to the information we talked about in today's episode as well as the song we ride out on. Miles, what are we riding out on today? We are going to go out on a track originally by two-door cinema club but
Starting point is 01:21:06 remixed by brazilian like electro dj group the 12s they were popping like years ago and i was really fucking with all their like remixes like sort of quasi disco remixes um but in this one they're taking you know i don't know how much of a two-door cinema club fan you are i wasn't that big into it but this 12s remix is really dope. It's just got a lot of, you know, I think earlier in the week, we got to have the energy hype. And then like we start coasting into the weekend.
Starting point is 01:21:32 So this was still a little bit of hype, little toe tapping. Shout out to the people who send me multiple clips of Little Richard talking about making your big toe shoot up in my boot. He said it in multiple interviews, but the one I always reference, search Little Richard,
Starting point is 01:21:45 Jimi Hendrix, and that's where you see him flying off of some WHITE. Okay. That Jack Nicholson. Yeah, that front row at the Lake Show. All right. Well, I forgot to have the thing pulled up. Oh, sorry. I didn't even say the song.
Starting point is 01:22:04 And yes, rightly so. Super producer Anna Pozniak points out, what's the name of the song? It's called Something Good Can Work by Tudor Cinema Club featuring The 12s. Something Good Can Work. And you know what? It's available where most of your tracks are. No SoundCloud stuff this time. That sounds like something I would say while, like, a sentence that I started while I was half asleep.
Starting point is 01:22:26 Something good can work. Or that sounds like a thing where, like, your junior high basketball coach says when he's driving the van to your game. And it's like, and one of the kids in the backseat has the aux cable. And they're like, no more of that SoundCloud stuff, guys. The heck is that? All right. Well, The Daily Zeitgeist is a production of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.
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