The Daily Zeitgeist - Trump’s Cartoon Logic, Dew The Hard Way 3.08.22

Episode Date: March 8, 2022

In episode 1099, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian Kyle Ayers to discuss Marco Rubio’s THIRST POSTING pics of Zelensky, Trump already teasing what his next administration would look like - W...AR CRIMES, Hard MTN DEW reviews are coming in… and more! Marco Rubio’s THIRST POSTING pics of Zelensky Trump already teasing what his next administration would look like - WAR CRIMES Hard MTN DEW reviews are coming in…   Never Seen it with Kyle Ayers LISTEN: Little Creatures by Jade CicadaSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:01 Hello, the internet, and welcome to season 22 227 episode 2 of the daily zeitgeist production of iheart radio this is a podcast where you take a deep dive into america's shared consciousness it's tuesday march 8th 2022 which means it's international women's day there it is there it is shout out to over half the population on the planet earth slightly overhead yeah amazing work amazing amazing work take it from a couple of guys keep your head down folks it's gonna be great well deserved one day of the year yeah it's a for like you know the whole women's history month right it's women's history month this month and then it's international women's day i feel like yeah the the programming could be more significant i don't know it's just weird how like the i think a lot of these like months that are like here's a marginalized
Starting point is 00:02:56 group here's a whole month and then it's like all right that's it All right. We've addressed it. Don't look into pay equity. Yep. All right. Well, my name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. What do we want? An end to clickbait. When do we want it? The answer will shock you. That is courtesy of Tim Reinvented.
Starting point is 00:03:18 At Tim Reinvented on Twitter. A rare protest chant, a.k.a. And I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. It's Miles Gray, a.k.a. Nugs Bunny, a.k.a. Elmer Budd, a.k.a. Daffy Dank, a.k.a. Split Fester Cat, a.k.a. Porky Pip, a.k.a. Roach Runner, a.k.a. Bonghorn Leghorn. Okay. Okay. Shout out to CWGBO and Not Enough DVDs Santa
Starting point is 00:03:48 on the Discord for that wonderful weekend. Oh man. Not Enough DVDs Santa. Great work from everyone on that one. I was watching season two. I think you should leave again over the weekend.
Starting point is 00:04:03 That Santa sketch. all time for me. An all time. Great. What is, what is it about? Is it, is it cosmic gumbo that cements it for you or just everything? It's also the action movie.
Starting point is 00:04:14 Yeah. The action part of it. Just how lazy the lines are really fucking kills me. And also I enjoy it as a fan of the Billy Bob Thornton radio interview where he demands that the guy not even acknowledge that he has an acting career. Yep. Yeah. All of the above form into one of my favorite sketches. Also, the Tim Robinson characters, which I hadn't watched, but that's like a free episode of I Think You Should Leave If You Haven't Checked It Out.
Starting point is 00:04:42 Oh, yeah. On Netflix. I Miss Jeff. I Miss Netflix. I miss Jeff. I miss Jeff. I miss Jeff. That and then when he goes to the gun store because he's been doing absolute paint jobs. Paint jobs.
Starting point is 00:04:53 Wherever he goes. Yeah. All right. Well, Miles, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by a very funny stand-up comedian, writer, actor, producer, and creator of Boast R uh compliment contest uh and never seen it a podcast where famous comedians rewrite classic movies they've never seen uh he's appeared on conan comedy central fuse at just for laughs created and hosted the podcast faking a murderer where he talked with eight comedians for eight
Starting point is 00:05:24 hours about the show making a murderer but did not tell his guests that he'd never seen the show but he also wrote and put on a satirical play glengarry glenn beck he's got so many projects that just like pitch themselves with the title or like one sentence uh and, also he's apparently cracked the code on Wordle, uh, cause he's gotten it on one guess every day for the past month. Uh, please welcome to the show, the hilarious Kyle Ayers! What's up, man? Sells itself with the, with the title is a nice way of saying fizzled out after one. Great shit, man.
Starting point is 00:06:03 I wanted to be AKA Tweedle Bird, smoke simity sam i love looney tunes oh yeah i think about now it's so fun but thanks for having me hey man let us in man you're you're posting up sick fucking wordle scores yeah putting on numbers like give us some tips here you know a lot of people are like this guy's on fire people so people do ask about this lots when i'm out at in public and um the thing is if you just know what it like if you just guess it right the first try right then it then it then you get that's how it works oh so much easier that way i know i i i just think i because i always think i'm like, what would it be today? And then I type that in. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:46 Hey, man. You've cracked it. It reminds me of the propaganda about Kim Jong-un that was like, he just hit a hole in one on every golf hole. I think he like golfed a 19. Like he thought, what would fool people? Where he's like, that par five I got in two. I got a two instead of one. Don't make it unrealistic.
Starting point is 00:07:06 I shot a 19. Do you plan on adding a 1 where you get it in 2? I think if there's a day, and this is a huge... What do you mean plan on? You mean if he's off? I have thought about it. If there's a day where the word is ado, I'm not going to get it. And I'm going to put my guy lost.
Starting point is 00:07:23 Because that's everyone's starter. Because I think that's everyone's first word yeah it all started when i jokingly said i got moist in one like i thought that'd be a funny word to be like that's my because it makes look like it's your starter word and now i just uh struggle for content yeah do people get pissed at you they're like every once in a while yeah people are have kind of caught on at this point but when i first started i was like 12 in and someone goes doubt it like after 12 i also doubt it you're like because i got to 11 and then when you surpassed me i was like hold on i tried i spent like three hours trying to get the quartal copy paste but the formatting is impossible when you erase the little squares
Starting point is 00:08:06 and they all move to different lines and stuff like that. I wanted to look like I was getting quartal in one every day as well. Yeah, which would be technically impossible. Yeah, so hard. So hard, yeah, yeah. Impossible to us.
Starting point is 00:08:18 The thing about quartal is you just got to guess all four words at once. At once, somehow. Come on, Jack. You got to be more confident, man. Back yourself. I know. All right.
Starting point is 00:08:28 Well, Kyle, we are going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell our listeners a couple of things we're talking about. We're going to talk about Marco Rubio, thirst posting, pics of Zelinsky.
Starting point is 00:08:39 Just, you know, he was asked for security purposes, hey, don't do this. And he was like, I'm sorry. I can't. I can't. Can't not be me, baby. What's more important than clout for old Rubio?
Starting point is 00:08:52 If he had gotten that dude killed, like that would have been that would have been an all timer. And yeah. And he wouldn't have said it was his fault. He would have been like, I don't know, man. I think the Ukrainian special forces really failed their president is probably what he would have said. He would have blamed the Cubans for some sort of mystical technology they have that targeted them. We're going to talk about, Trump had some interesting things to say about the war, war crimes, just generally what would be happening if he was in charge, which is a terrifying thought experiment
Starting point is 00:09:25 like for the rest of us. But for him, it it takes place in a Looney Tunes cartoon, actually, like his version of the war if he was still president. So it's good to see that, you know, his time in office has changed him and hardened him into a realistic adult human being. So we'll talk about that. We'll talk about, uh, okay. So it has happened. Hard Mountain Dew has hit shelves, uh, some test markets and the reviews are, will shock you. We'll go with that. All of that, plenty more. But first, Kyle, we do like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history? Oh, my search history. Oh my God. let me see the last thing that i searched i guess it was looney tunes characters so i could make those
Starting point is 00:10:11 puns uh i thought you loved looney tunes you're googling looney tunes characters the last thing i searched was why are why are there oscars and i don't remember if I meant like still or ever. Right. Like why the awards ceremony happened. Yeah. But it's just mostly because it feels like we're in a post-awards show world. Yes. Totally.
Starting point is 00:10:40 I used to look forward to the Oscars. I would love to win one if they're giving them out like Wordle Sports. But at this point, I don't. It's this month. It's next month. It already happened. I don't know. I think the peak Oscars for me, not even that I was so excited, but the last thing I participated in was wearing a tuxedo to watch the Osccars just as like a goof at someone's house that was
Starting point is 00:11:07 the year that moonlight showed up at their house for like a casual viewing party and a tuxedo yeah and no no they were asking everybody to dress up nice and i was like i thought it was like that uh i was like i'll go there like the baba duke to go to that normal halloween party that was really funny too great yeah but yeah. Yeah. But yeah, like, and then after that, I honestly, even then I was like, see, I don't even know why I'm here. And now you like, to your point, I don't really understand what it means to even give an award out anymore. I just, something happened, you know, I'm sure it's probably the only bad thing that's
Starting point is 00:11:39 happened from the pandemic would be this fallout about award shows. But it's, it is is i don't know i just i used to really i was like i'll guess them all and i'll see all the movies and i think i was looking it up to see like is there a movie i should watch but i don't know if it's because i'm not going to theaters maybe movie pass maybe i don't know what's going on it just doesn't feel like i don't maybe i learned too much about celebrities personal lives like through the pandemic and now i'm like oh well i don't you know i don't care and now i'm just sort of i don't know, maybe I learned too much about celebrities' personal lives, like, through the pandemic. And now I'm like, oh, well, I don't, you know, I don't care. And now I'm just sort of, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:12:09 Yeah. This month. Yeah, they're coming up, I think. And maybe I probably won't watch, but I'll look up and see what won and be excited if it's actors or directors I like. But other than that, I'm not sure. It feels like, it used to feel like we're in los angeles you feel like there's like this weight to them that i guess people just feel a little bit less maybe i'm seeing less people i don't know no i think it's just in general like this has always been an issue with awards is like when they really start departing from like what people are enjoying
Starting point is 00:12:40 and what they enjoy about something they don't like align with they're like oh yeah that makes sense i would want that award because these people are also thinking the same way now people like what got nominated what didn't get numb what who the fuck are these people voting and that i think that energy has just sort of completely made it you know i could definitely see that that factoring into how i feel about it all where you know just can are you throwing a popular movie a bone to keep us on for a little while or are you not acknowledging that movies people like are real if it's not just about like sometimes i see a movie trailer now and i watch it i'm like that looks like one you know what i mean like i had all the parts of oh the guy oh man i bet the situation with his parents influenced his life. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:26 Well, all right. There's another one of those. But I think you're onto something with that, Miles. I think it might have something to do with feeling like a disconnect between what gets nominated for awards and what people consume. And I think that's the hard part is how do you even what group could actually embody that where you're like, you know who gives out the awards that make sense this group of people over here and i don't even think like at that point is there even right any way if you look back through years of what one best picture it is rarely the movie you ever think about from that year anymore hereditary is like the example i can think of where it is but other than that it you really have to be like, what are you looking at?
Starting point is 00:14:06 Is that the movie that remains in people's zeitgeist in their brain? Oh, yeah. Shakespeare in Love? Very rarely. Yeah. Is everyone going back and re-watching Shakespeare in Love or do you re-watch Saving Private Ryan? Like, is it what movies... Saving Private Ryan. Or Crash. Sometimes they age even faster than that.
Starting point is 00:14:21 Like Crash, 20 minutes afterwards. Like Green Book, 10 minutes afterwards. I don't even know. That couldn't have been real. Green Book, 10 minutes afterwards. I don't even know. That couldn't have been real. Green Book looks like a Tropic Thunder trailer to me. And you're saying Hereditary should have won? Should have. It was great. At least that was the last time we were like,
Starting point is 00:14:38 that's the lasting movie from then. Don't mess it up. We even won here. They tried to not give it to the lasting movie and the people who won it were like, we didn't actually win, the good one did. They're trying so hard. I like La La Land, I shouldn't say that.
Starting point is 00:14:54 We do a thing every year when the nominees are announced where we talk about that it should be a five-year delay on the nominees. It's like the Hall of Fame for sports. Yeah, exactly. You get to see what's stuck around.
Starting point is 00:15:10 Oh, that's funny. But I personally, you know, I just think Hollywood's brightest stars need a night to come out and shine, personally. That's always been my stance. So it's, yeah, it's a mess. It will continue to be. For sure.
Starting point is 00:15:26 What is something you think is overrated? Hate following people. Oh. It's bad for your brain. Oh, right. If you're like, I didn't follow Marco Rubio. I could just look him up when I see everyone talking about him. Right.
Starting point is 00:15:40 But I just don't need to see the casual casual overflow of like following people just to like. Yeah, I only dunk on them in my brain and scroll. I feel like, yeah, the the people like I follow people like that. And it started out of this thing of like, oh, I should be able to like respond to tweets from this person on Twitter to get some jokes off or something. Sure. And then my will for that dissipates. Why am I just only looking at Ben Shapiro and right. This owns on my feet now. I know that is that I think he is the maybe the primary one that's in my brain when I
Starting point is 00:16:16 think about something like this, because I go, you know, everyone scream about something with him and I go look, I'm like, I have 800 common followers with this guy. Right. that's crazy to me but what are you just seeing you see the stuff that he clearly just wants attention for but you also see like uh him just tweeting like fun day or I don't know what he does but like right I doubt he tweets anything that casual but like you got to see him just promoting his podcast every day right who's the last what's the last uh hate fall did you have you been have you been cleaning up your follows?
Starting point is 00:16:46 Is that how you kind of got here? That is kind of what led me to this is I just kind of like going through and I'm just like, do I need, do I need to follow like both Lindsey Graham accounts? Yeah. Right. You have to. The person one that we,
Starting point is 00:16:59 remember we all, there was like an hour where everyone's like, is he funny? Right. And, but then I follow the actual one, like ran by the whatever, you know, people who work for him. I just, I got to stop. I got to stop.
Starting point is 00:17:13 There are good people who do the hate following for me. Like Cody Johnston is a great person to follow because he will bring to your attention anytime one of those people does something very stupid or anytime john krasinski has a burner account and is telling people who criticize his movies that he's six two and could beat the shit out of them it's yeah i i do not i do not have the energy or attention span to follow people. Are we going to breeze right by what's going on with John Krasinski's burner account about beating people up? Yeah, I feel like people missed this. So this is OK. You know, maybe it's underrated to hate following people because apparently I missed the whole John Krasinski.
Starting point is 00:17:55 Just follow Cody because he he caught this. It was John Krasinski. Like somebody went on a tear one day because people kept accusing John Krasinski of being a CIA op because he rebooted Jack Ryan with himself as Jack Ryan, except Jack Ryan's no longer just an analyst. Now he's also like a badass action hero. And people were like, all right, you're a CIA op. And he was like, you know, you better like stop saying that because Krasinski actually like trained with a military unit and he could fuck you up and then cody was just pointed out like hey so that that account was just created today are we gonna pretend this isn't john krasinski because it was an account that was created one day and just went around
Starting point is 00:18:41 saying the most self-serving like just picture like uh they're like we weren't sure if it was him or not but the only tweet the account had was looks directly at webcam and smirks that's right yeah i hope he's out here dunking on people who are trying to take down leatherheads yeah yeah i hope so because that is an underrated classic not to step on your underrated but i'm sure it was leatherheads the buildings because that is an underrated classic. Not to step on your underrated, but I'm sure it was Leatherheads. The buildings of football is an important thing to have. He does have the body of a prototypical athlete when the movie took place. Yeah, that's true. You don't have to go back that far to where he would have been the largest athlete on Earth.
Starting point is 00:19:20 That's true. 50 years before the advanced athletic athletic body of larry bird there was john krasinski i think about it sometimes you know we don't have to go back that far where we probably could have made the olympics and something if we tried like the three of us yeah oh yeah i feel like drop my body into the 30s yeah i'm getting i'm getting some i'm getting on some olympic team Right. You're telling me I couldn't out-swim the guy who played Tarzan? He won gold medals. Did he really?
Starting point is 00:19:51 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I just would have loved to play basketball in a belt and a polo shirt or whatever the fuck they played in back then. Like just a round leather ball with no seams. Just the innovation you would have had in the middle of the Olympics. You would have been like, what if we cut the bottom of the basket out?
Starting point is 00:20:10 Right. And they would be like, holy crap. I feel like, oh man, 1936 would have been tough, man. Are you looking up the records?
Starting point is 00:20:21 Yeah. I'm like, I'm like, damn, like, yeah, I'm not beating jesse owens that shit ain't happening maybe not even a thing you want to claim to be able to have done
Starting point is 00:20:30 yeah if i came on here and all i was doing was saying i could have ran faster than jesse really agenda driven all right let me go further back maybe 28 what happened in 28 let me see 100 years ago we all probably could have made the Olympics. Damn, I don't do it. I'm not running a fucking 10-4 fucking 100 meter. No. You got to maybe do something else. You got to do one in, like, more long-term athletic space.
Starting point is 00:20:57 The niche sort of thing. Like, what if you could do the high jump? The high jump world record was, like, 20 inches. Right. Yeah. You just, like, jumped over it. You didn't, like, do that floppy thing. Yeah. could do the high jump the high jump world record was like 20 inches right yeah you just like jumped over it you didn't like do that floppy thing yeah the high jump was just like just kind of jumped over something like right and while you're doing it you had to like salute the president it was just two kids holding a jump rope on either side and you had to jump over that you had to like you'd like twist your mustache
Starting point is 00:21:27 upwards over every hurdle during the steeplechase right ah this is i'm making my way and i got but that's a two second penalty for williams his monocle came out now he's just running in a little circle over and over again we saw williams gawk at a lady that's a four second penalty they're not married there was there was a good story from like the i think it was like 1900s or so like the first decade of the 20th century like paris had the olympics and people like got lost during the marathon run and like there was so much like smoke and coal ash and shit that i think somebody died so yeah they didn't really have their shit together back then it was more like hobbyists i never never understood the marathon as a thing where we're like the guy who invented it died at it yeah and now we're all like, ha ha ha, we can do it. Yeah. Now there's ultra marathons that are 100 miles.
Starting point is 00:22:27 What? Yeah, more. Whenever I see those people watch YouTube videos, you see motivational YouTube clips, and it's about some dude or anybody who's like, I ran 300 miles. You think I did it because I gave up on myself? And you're like, I don't know, man. I think you did it because you suffer from a very specific type of mental illness. Yeah, I would like to watch those videos with a therapist.
Starting point is 00:22:49 Right. Right. And be like, what are you really running from? And the guy just cries. Nobody's asked him that. You actually win the race because you just catch up to people one at a time and say that to them.
Starting point is 00:23:01 And they all just break down into tears. You just have pictures of their parents with you. Yeah. There's also like nothing that makes me more resolute in like not being a like a athlete or exercising and like, you know, very high levels because I see somebody say like, it's easy to run your first 80 miles. And I'm like, dude, fuck that. Right. The last 20. That's where it gets you.
Starting point is 00:23:25 Yeah, exactly. I can't drive a hundred miles without stopping. Right. Yeah. I'm like, is there a toggle bell? Do we have like one of these weird,
Starting point is 00:23:34 is there like that gas station that has the alien outside of it? Like I got to find something within a hundred miles. Hold on. We need some habanero jerky right now. That's the best jerky in the world. I'm also going to just say overrated. Hate following people on the street. Don't do that.
Starting point is 00:23:51 True. Where are you going, man? Where are you headed? What are you doing? Oh, one of those fancy walkers, huh? Okay. You think this is New York City or something? I'm going to tell everyone about this walk, but I'm going to be ironic about it.
Starting point is 00:24:03 Yeah. What's something you think is underrated? It's so funny that we ended up where we did with this talk because my underrated is listening to audiobooks while exercising. Yeah. I started trying to run a little bit. I like to swim and I like to bike, but running is, I hate it. I hate running. I hate it.
Starting point is 00:24:24 Yeah. Running is, I hate it. I hate running. I hate it. Yeah. And someone told me to listen to audio books while you do it because then you get excited to go do it again because you want to know what's happening in the book. Damn, you must be listening to some good audio books. I know. How long are you listening to The Fellowship of the Ring?
Starting point is 00:24:37 There you go. Which I have read, but it's just like, I want to get back into this because they're good at the book. Right. But it's just like, I want to get back into this because they're good at the book. So I think that that's a night it's helped me be a little more motivated to do the very minimal exercise that I am trying to do. I do that with movies to run. Like, I just need to give myself like something that's like a treat. I can't like do like a book I've been meaning to get to while I'm running. You know, it has to be.
Starting point is 00:25:02 You watch a movie while you run? Yeah. Oh, you're on a treadmill probably. No, no, no. No, I've been hit by a car five times in the last two weeks. You've got some sort of like head rig where it comes up in front of you. This is your hands-free running watch. You drive around Los Angeles, you'll see enough people watching TV while they drive.
Starting point is 00:25:21 Yeah. That that's not that far-fetched. It's like, it really uh blown up exponentially i feel like oh i saw a dude touch the skip intro button of the queen's gambit while driving i mean that's automatic that's pretty like you don't have time for that you're in traffic yeah it's like i gotta get to the narrative wait so you normally i see i can't run i just hate running i can only do it in the context of like sport, like when I'm like chasing after somebody or like playing basketball or soccer, like that I can run. But just like straight jogging, fuck that.
Starting point is 00:25:57 I hate that. I have just kind of started doing it and getting like a mile without stopping is a huge, huge thing for me. And I run so slow. kind of started doing it and getting like a mile without stopping is a huge huge thing for me and i run so slow the first one i just i try to not the first mile is the only one i'm doing but i literally hit a half mile and i turn around and go with the back and it's hard it's really really hard but it the third or fourth time it did was a little easier and i felt kind of like good yeah when people you talk to people who run like you're gonna get the runner's high it's like no i just run only a mile and then get regular high right works much better much more time efficient yeah running slow is is the key you gotta make
Starting point is 00:26:38 yourself run very slow and then you'll maybe start to enjoy it and and i tried at the beginning of lockdowns i was like fuck it like i gotta get. At the beginning of lockdowns, I was like, fuck it. I gotta do something. And I did it maybe for like a month. And then I was just like, this is just fucked up. I can't rule my kidding here. I thought I could do it. But now I'm biking.
Starting point is 00:26:58 Biking's the best. No one ever tells you, they never tell you, you're gonna need a knee brace. I'm 33 and I start running. I'm talking to my friend who runs a lot. And he goes, you're you're gonna need a knee brace right i'm i'm running 33 and i start running i'm talking my friend who runs like a lot and he goes you're gonna want to get a knee brace i'm like i'm not doing that i'll do this till it hurts and i'll quit like i'm not gonna i'm not pushing through gear i'm not gonna pay i'm not trying to do this consistently okay all right let's take a quick break. We'll be right back to talk Marco Rubio. Marco the Rubio.
Starting point is 00:27:26 Marco the motherfucking Rubio, which is how he's asked me to introduce him. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and LA-based Shekinah Church, an alleged cult that has impacted members for over two decades. members for over two decades. Jessica and I will delve into the hidden truths between high control groups and interview dancers, church members, and others whose lives and careers have been impacted, just like mine. Through powerful, in-depth interviews with former members and new,
Starting point is 00:28:14 chilling firsthand accounts, the series will illuminate untold and extremely necessary perspectives. Forgive Me For I Have Followed will be more than an exploration. It's a vital revelation aimed at ensuring these types of abuses never happen again. Listen to Forgive Me For I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. It was December 2019 when the story blew up. In Green Bay, Wisconsin, former Packers star Kabir Bajabiamila caught up in a bizarre situation. KGB explaining what he believes led to the arrest of his friends at a children's Christmas play. A family man, former NFL player, devout Christian, now cut off from his family and connected to a strange arrest. I am going to share my journey of how I went from Christianity to now a Hebrew Israelite. I got swept up in Kabir's journey, but this was only the beginning.
Starting point is 00:29:11 In a story about faith and football, the search for meaning away from the gridiron and the consequences for everyone involved. You mix homesteading with guns and church and a little bit of the spice of conspiracy theories that we liked. Voila! You got straight away. I felt like I was living in North Korea, but worse, if that's possible. Listen to Spiraled on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. How do you feel about biscuits? Hi, I'm Akilah Hughes, and I'm so excited about my new podcast, Rebel Spirit, where I head back to my hometown in Kentucky and try to convince my high school to change their racist mascot, the Rebels, into something everyone in the South loves, the Biscuits.
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Starting point is 00:31:29 Listen to Lucha Libre Behind the Mask as part of my Cultura Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you stream podcasts. And we're back. and we're back and yeah miles you pointed out that rubio was flex posting on uh his meeting with zielinski i had missed this because i also don't hate follow people yeah you know look the flex post we get it everybody's been guilty of it here and there maybe you got upgraded on an airplane you're like oh hell yeah i'm taking a picture look at my stinking ass in first class post we get it everybody's been guilty of it here and there maybe you got upgraded on an airplane you're like oh hell yeah i'm taking a picture look at my stinking ass in first class flex post you just maybe met one of your idols you want to take a picture with them put it on the gram
Starting point is 00:32:14 i get it little flex post got word on the first try a hundred days in a row you gotta get a little flex copy meeting wordle legend kyle air flick it up with me bro right or maybe you're on a zoom call with uh ukrainian president zlinski after the russians tried to assassinate him three times in one week and he's constantly moving around for his own safety as he leads his country's homeland defense flex post yes for marco rubio so steve danes and marco rubio both posted like screenshots of their zoom call with president zelinski uh over the weekend and this was like a huge call apparently it was like almost 300 senators house members and their staff they were always lenski so he was you know catching them up to basically like what the situation was on the ground, what kind of aid they needed, et cetera. And then Rubio just literally posted just like as if he took a picture of a laptop because you can tell by like the angle of it.
Starting point is 00:33:14 This isn't a screen. It's like I'm going to take photos with his phone. Yeah. Let me take a photo of computer. And it says on Zoom call now with President Zelenski. Right now at this moment. Right now. Steve Daines did the same thing.
Starting point is 00:33:29 Currently on a Zoom call with President Zelensky with like another, again, a crude iPhone picture of a computer. You know that he saw Rubio do it and he was like, no, I got to let everyone know. It's like letting everyone know you're at the party. Do you know what I mean? He's like, Rubio posted a story and didn't tag me. I mean, I got to let everyone know I'm here too. I mean exactly, because Steve Daines did post that, I believe, eight minutes later.
Starting point is 00:33:50 Which is probably how long it took him to figure out how to do a screenshot. He's like, what do you mean? Command shift four? What is the Apple button? Open Apple? I think this is an opportunity for President Zelens if you because i know
Starting point is 00:34:06 you're listening i'm not gonna say if he's a huge fan virtual backgrounds my man right yeah well throw the eiffel tower back there and throw putin off exactly with that looney tunes logic that we're gonna get through that he just pictures zielinski painting a tunnel on a side of a mountain to see if putin will drive a tank bro exactly if he had put china as the fake background yeah putin would have bombed china we get the thing that trump is gonna be talking about later on put a bathroom at the kremlin as your background yes wait a second we're on to something so this is like after, the ambassador explicitly asked attendees to this Zoom meeting. This is from one of the other senators who, like, didn't post and was just like, what the fuck's this guy doing?
Starting point is 00:34:51 Said, quote, the Ukrainian ambassador very intentionally asked each of us on the Zoom to not share anything on social media during the meeting to protect the security of President Zelensky. Appalling and reckless ignorance by two U.S. senators. Yeah. I mean mean the last part goes without saying but i it's it's weird because rubio who last i checked is not jason bourne went on i believe jake tapper show on cnn and just like everybody's just tripping okay wait tapper tapper asked him like yeah hey what what the fuck if some if everyone's asking you to go on tv to justify it i bet everyone's not tripping yeah it's not like they want you on there if you're it's like we gotta we need to find a way to get rubio on our show has he done anything out of step
Starting point is 00:35:37 you tweeted a photo of zielinski during the virtual meeting democratic congressman dean phillips said that the ukrainian ambassador had explicitly asked lawmakers not to share anything on social media until after the meeting ended just for Zelensky's security. Is that true? Was it a mistake for you to tweet that picture? Well, first of all, she asked that like 30 minutes into the call after I had already done it. The second is under the impression that no one knew that call was happening. You know, that call had been widely reported. Actually, the that call had been widely reported. Actually, the specific time had been reported. There were over 300 people on it.
Starting point is 00:36:09 All the call details had been emailed. So there was nothing secure about that call. And the picture is just a nondescript picture. It looks just like every of the other ones that you've seen out there publicly. So there's no risk posed. But, you know, you're always going to have a couple of people that want their name in an article somewhere and mentioned in the press. So, oh, you mean like you? You're always going to have these people who want attention for what they're doing that day.
Starting point is 00:36:32 Yeah. Those people coming after me, you know, just because you have some cool friends. I think they're just really haters, you know, because I think a lot of those people weren't on the call. So this is a brutal way to find out. I got Marco Rubio's haircut two days ago ago we'll see in that video him on cnn yeah he's i mean again i'm sure you're a data analyst you're an analyst so you know it's a nondescript room you know yeah what's the problem i also just love though too he's like well like the ambassador only said that like 30 minutes like into the call like i didn't even know until she said like that's not even fair i was too busy tweeting out to pay
Starting point is 00:37:10 attention at the beginning of the meeting so ridiculous you know he was said he was so excited to do that all day he knew he's gonna get on there he knew he's gonna post the thing about it and he just wanted the attention for being there you want to be invited and he got invited and yeah you know like there is part of me like i get i get the urge to take a picture and say like you're on a zoom call with the most famous human being on earth at the moment but that's if you completely remove all of the context as to why you are even speaking with this person and why they are even the most looked at famous person on the planet at the moment. Like, come on. I mean, I did a Zoom show with Colin Mochrie from Whose Line Is It Anyway?
Starting point is 00:37:52 And I had a pretty similar situation happen where I took a screenshot. Because I was so excited. I was like, and Zelensky is almost an even more famous comedian at this point. Like, some would say even more. Like, at this moment. Right, right. Not at peak, but at this moment you know right right not that peak but at this moment right yeah yeah like not if you take an average over the course of a lifetime
Starting point is 00:38:09 but yeah yeah see someone famous be like this is crazy this is the most famous guy and then you know what you think i am a sitting u.s senator but that's a i think maybe i don't attention. I think that's the whole problem there. The whole Russian invasion of Ukraine, like, has really brought out this, I think, and like their their entire job and the course of this country isn't like already predetermined unless you like change who they are entirely. So definitely really wants everyone to think that like Zelensky was like and Marco Rubio, how do we resolve this? Right. Marco Rubio like clicks the raise hand button and zoom and then is brought into the big clean. He's like, and Marco Rubio, how do we resolve this? Marco Rubio clicks the raise hand button in Zoom and then is brought into the big clean. He's like, yes, yes, thank you. You're on mute, Marco.
Starting point is 00:39:12 You're on mute. This dude was basically CC'd on a Zoom. You know what I mean? If not be CC'd on a Zoom. Marco, did you have something you changed from the little party streamer emoticon to hands clapping? I didn't know. Did you have something or you're just okay cool oh no no i'm just figuring out hot keys yeah hold on look at this
Starting point is 00:39:30 i can make my eyebrows look green marco rubio should have hey if he really wanted to make me laugh he should have made his taking a screenshot of zlinski and made that his wallpaper like he was sitting in the chair right or framed next to him he's like oh he's like right next to him nodding and he's like at meeting with zielinski and it's like shaking his hand even though zielinski just has his arms out like tim robinson in a sketch and his hands just like flat out it's like there's a sense of depth or anything he's like yes i'm hugging him bringing him a drink like you would see people making those little zoom videos of themselves delivering themselves coffee early and remember when zoom was fun yeah camera off returns in the exact same t-shirt that's the lids he's wearing that would be hilarious yeah puffing his chest up he's like
Starting point is 00:40:14 whoa twin day huh they're like oh shit rubio just tweets tfw all right let's talk about trump telling us you know how where his brain's at he he may be our next president he thinks he's going to be and he was speaking with some donors over the weekend in louisiana and he had a lot of thoughts on what is happening in Ukraine. Like he knows Vladimir Putin like the well, like so well. He's actually the homie Vladimir Putin. And this wouldn't have happened if I was president. He said, quote, I knew he says, I knew Putin.
Starting point is 00:40:58 OK, all right, Gautier. I knew Putin very well. He would not have done it. He would have never done it he kept saying this it's like same line over and over again when you're like okay but we already heard from john bolton last week on this and we saw with our own eyes you were actively trying to withhold aid to ukraine for your own like political gains and you also literally can't find it on a map so sure right what other ideas you got uh donnie and then he went back to one of his old
Starting point is 00:41:26 favorite you know tracks which is nato sucks and the u.s should leave we're paying too much money nato's nothing it's a paper tiger blah blah blah blah so he criticized you know the lack of like aggressive military response as if like their response from the all these other countries like yeah man just fucking destroy, uh, just destroy the country with like nukes or something. But he was really, really agitated that there wasn't like this huge show of like militaristic force.
Starting point is 00:41:52 And when people were like, yeah, that's still like avoid a literal overt world war. Now it's like a cold war world war where the West is definitely arming another country and being like, yeah, you know, we don't really want to get into it.
Starting point is 00:42:05 We'll just give you the shit to blow them up with. And, you know, because he didn't like that, he came up with a very clever response or idea. The solution was to paint F-22 Raptors with Chinese flags and have them, quote, bomb the shit out of Russia. And then he said, China did it. We didn't do it. China did it. and then they start fighting with each other and we sit back and watch that's literally that's a quote i just picture him saying all this and then it just pans over to nathan fielder who's like nodding his head like yes yes
Starting point is 00:42:37 paint the jets have them do it and then it's exactly it'll work perfect that is the like i guess it's a reminder of what it was like when he was the president. But like I had read that somebody tweeted that quote, like, and then we say China did it. We didn't do it, folks. China did it. And then they start fighting. Somebody had tweeted that quote. I had I had no clue if that was a joke or not.
Starting point is 00:43:00 Like I assumed it was because. Well, it's it was met with like uproarious like laughter and applause when he said that to the donors now my question there is is it like is it the kind of laughter applause where it's like holy shit i agree this guy's a fucking genius and i didn't think of that or is it more of like holy shit i can't believe this guy thinks that shit would work he's just kind of a goofy guy, you know? He just says stuff like that. I think they're just probably just like,
Starting point is 00:43:29 oh, God, I can't believe this guy's here. We'll talk about this while golfing. I don't even think anyone's paying attention. Right. Yeah, I think, yeah, people just go, I think they're used to being like, Trump says something, you cheer. But I'm sure there are also people who, you know,
Starting point is 00:43:42 people with very little knowledge about global military conflict is like, yeah, that's fine. I don't know if that's a war crime, which it is. I believe Trump is to rich people what his supporters are to him, where he thinks they love him and they laugh about him when he's not around, even if he helps them. Oh, because he's just useful to them. He's just useful to them, but he's a joke of a rich person to them you know what i mean he's right right right very and i don't know how wealthy these people were at the louisiana fundraiser or whatever but i imagine he doesn't talk to too many of his actual supporters because he finds that they're disgusting yeah look at him they he houses them in a airplane hangar and they get they get to see him there but it has to be
Starting point is 00:44:22 open air the second he leaves the room everyone's like, oh my god, that fucker. You know what I mean? This guy's... He is a joke to them as well. And I'm sure he was joking, but he's planning to run for president and was criticized for being like, for his take on Russia, so it
Starting point is 00:44:39 is just a weird thing to be joking about. Oh, for sure. He's never thought about anything Right He's never thought about anything before I hadn't thought about him in like a week Do you know what I mean He pops up so much less frequently now
Starting point is 00:44:56 And then every time he does pop up it's something like this And you're like he's going to win again Because in the interim The guy who's in there now has done nothing He said he would and told me to go back to an office. So, like, I think. Yeah. Also, hope you guys save them some money to pay those student loans back up.
Starting point is 00:45:14 My friend, the banks. It really is. I know he has trouble remembering things, but I didn't think he'd forget everything he promised so quickly. Yeah. Well, you know, one day at a time. One day at a time. One crisis at a time as they're like, all right, do we cut off the Russian oil and then have to figure? I mean, I think it's really convenient because now Democrats are, you know, rather than pointing at corporate greed and stuff, they're like, this war with Russia attacking Ukraine.
Starting point is 00:45:42 I mean, the inflation has gone wacky. We do keep getting caught up in wars every time there's almost an election. That's crazy. I'm not going to look into it. Nah, nah, nah. Better to not. Better to leave it. But again, I do want to commend Trump's legitimate Looney Tunes logic on how to defeat global powers.
Starting point is 00:46:02 Duck season, rabbit season of inciting war right i'm not familiar with duck season rabbits he's hanging up it's like when bugs bunny would hang up duck season signs over the rabbit season signs so elmer fudd would hunt the daffy instead of bugs right yeah this is him doing that yeah yeah the planes with chinese flags is hanging up duck season signs right yeah and we all know f-22 raptors i mean the prized possession of air forces across the globe oh wait no they're only they've never been sold outside of the u.s but okay sure put a sticker on it and now we're like you see vatami i mean like what's going on they're wilding i mean i think they stole our planes too yeah and there there are like you know there's a uh school of international relations the realist school where it's just you know might makes right and like you know we have to plan our
Starting point is 00:46:58 future in international relations with the ideal that like everybody you know as soon as a major power builds itself up and off they're going to come for us and china is in the process of doing that and so the u.s needs to make friends with russia not like provoke this war like i had somebody who like took issue with i think i was regurgitating a little bit too much of like the New York Times talking points on the, you know, Russian war invasion of Ukraine. And like they sent me a really interesting like lecture where this like professor from Chicago, University of Chicago is like talking about like how that decision to back Ukraine's involvement in NATO is really like the very beginning of this whole thing. And it was like very foolish. That all makes sense to me. The fact that Trump is
Starting point is 00:47:56 just said that the way to handle that is it's not even like that guy is thinking in chess and trump is thinking in checkers it's like so far below that he's like thinking in yeah looney tunes yeah checkers would involve like setting up a board yeah yeah and knowing where the pieces start it's like he walked into the middle of a checkers game and and farted on the board yeah right yeah it's like we call this dog poop sucker yeah and you're like what and then got lifted off the ground by the scent of his own fart and like started like when a pie is going and they smell the pie wave this is good that would be the perpetual motion machine yeah would be him just smelling it i mean a magnet in front of a car. Could it really be like not a bad visual metaphor for his entire life?
Starting point is 00:48:46 You know, just continuing to fail. He doesn't have to worry about his bone spurs acting up floating under the scent of his own fart. Yeah. Just farting his way. Alternative fuel. Yeah. All right. Let's take a quick break.
Starting point is 00:48:59 We'll be right back. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and L.A.-based Shekinah Church, an alleged cult that has impacted members for over two decades. Jessica and I will delve into the hidden truths between high-control groups and interview dancers, church members, and others whose lives and careers have been impacted, just like mine. Through powerful, in-depth interviews with former members and new, chilling firsthand accounts, the series will illuminate untold and extremely necessary perspectives.
Starting point is 00:49:49 Forgive Me For I Have Followed will be more than an exploration. It's a vital revelation aimed at ensuring these types of abuses never happen again. Listen to Forgive Me For I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hello, everyone. I am Lacey Lamar. And I'm Amber Ruffin, a better Lacey Lamar. Boo. Okay, everybody, we have exciting news to share. We're back with season two of the Amber and Lacey, Lacey and Amber show on Will Ferrell's Big Money Players Network. You thought you had fun last season? Well, you were right. And you should tune in today for new fun segments like Sister Court and listening
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Starting point is 00:51:58 we promise to avoid any black holes. Most of the time. It was December 2019 when the story blew up. In Green Bay, Wisconsin, former Packers star Kabir Bajabiamila caught up in a bizarre situation. KGB explaining what he believes led to the arrest of his friends at a children's Christmas play. A family man, former NFL player, devout Christian, now cut off from his family and connected to a strange arrest. I am going to share my journey of how I went from Christianity to now a Hebrew Israelite. I got swept up in Kabir's journey.
Starting point is 00:52:36 But this was only the beginning in a story about faith and football, the search for meaning away from the gridiron and the consequences for everyone involved. the search for meaning away from the gridiron and the consequences for everyone involved. You mix homesteading with guns and church and a little bit of the spice of conspiracy theories that we liked. Voila! You got straight away. I felt like I was living in North Korea, but worse, if that's possible. Listen to Spiraled on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. And Hard Mountain Dew, we've talked about its impending existence since it was announced. It was presumably birthed by the meme ability of having hard baja blasts like taco bell and you know pepsi
Starting point is 00:53:29 which are the same company i guess they they they're not fools they they know that this is like a a slam dunk but for execution all they had to do was nail that execution. Baja Blast is great because it has more sugar than regular Mountain Dew, which has a shitload of sugar, like has an illegal amount of sugar in most countries. And Baja Blast coming through being like, nah, let's ramp that up. We want this thing to be on the verge of being a solid with how much sugar we eat, sugar and caffeine. And then, you know, color it the color of miniature golf water and we're in business. And then hard seltzers are obviously, you know, coming on strong.
Starting point is 00:54:19 And yeah, I love Baja Blast. I love Mountain Dew. I have tried to stop drinking it as much as possible. I still have a six pack in the fridge at all times in case I need to celebrate. Behind a little piece of glass, you got to knock out to get to it. But I don't drink, so I will not be partaking in the hard do. So but I was I was eager. I was like, this is, you know, this is the evolution. Yeah, I think everybody hearing about it, everyone was excited. Whether you drink or you not like not, it's just like it.
Starting point is 00:54:56 Like you said, it's a fucking meme. You're like, oh, shit. Baja Blast is now like something that will lead to DUIs. Interesting. It's crazy that whoever invented this stopped yelling at their stepkids long enough to make it. So I think, you know, I like the idea of it, you know, and I was never being like, you know,
Starting point is 00:55:17 I can't wait to seek this out for my next, you know, imbibing moment. But, you know, I think my instincts are correct because we're starting to get some reviews uh the people at the takeout got their hands on some because for right now this shit is only available in like three markets in tennessee iowa and florida it's so funny where do people shoot shit in fields just to see and that's like for that's a friday shit in fields just to see and that's like for that's a friday right right okay now add some baja to and a mountain dew watermelon i got so many flavors and now we've got the market cornered and apparently retailers in those areas have said this shit is flying off the shelves like
Starting point is 00:55:59 like at a five to one ratio to their other products and i get that it's new and like we said it's a drinkable fucking meme like i would buy it just to be like hey come over and then i'm like yo i got that i got that blasted mountain dew shit people like oh okay you got that hard mountain dew yeah but i mean this is a great thing to bring to a party even still like right now i would love to order it at a bar where they make drinks that way way the bartender knows, no, no, no, I don't want anything you've learned. I want that one can. I want you to kill me. It really feels like Four Loko walked so Hard Mountain Dew could, I don't know, ride a jet ski in an appropriate area.
Starting point is 00:56:39 So Kyle, that's what you would think, right? That is the promise of the concept of this product yeah it has no caffeine and no sugar like what the what the fuck are they thinking like 100 calories though because we got to keep up with the other with the white claws of the world right but no you don't that's not your target like i know right nobody who is who is trying to combine their Mountain Dew drinking and getting fucked up is like, gotta check my blood sugar. Gotta make sure I gotta keep my blood pressure in check. No, I get it.
Starting point is 00:57:20 I'm part of the group of people who like to die by chemical food. I'm with it. I mean, this should definitely be an option. It's great that they have an option for, you know, people who have diabetes. It could be called Mountain Don't. Yeah. Or Hill Do. There's a lot of things they could call the lesser version of Mountain Don't.
Starting point is 00:57:37 Hill Do. I don't know what's smaller than a mountain. Plateau Do. But Hill Do. Hill Do. Hill Do sounds like a king of the hill nephew that you don't know about that's he'll do right but you know in this in this one right up from the takeout it's hilarious because they're you know their biggest complaint is there's so many fucking
Starting point is 00:57:56 artificial sweeteners in it that like they can't handle the fucking taste this one this excerpt this beverage which tastes like sprite consumed immediately after downing a tablespoon of bubble gum flavored amoxicillin they're they're setting up these different like man versus technology man versus society the whole article y'all need to read it's by lillian stone and it's a great work of yeah writing it says the man versus society conflict emerges in original dues, artificial, artificial sweetener content, as in the drink is so full of acid, soul fame, potassium or ace K and sucralose that I cannot enter society because I am farting so, so much. Black Mirror really did come true. uh black mirror really did come true by the way my gum of choice and i'm a big i like to have a chew every once in a while you guys i'm a big i'm a big chewer big league chew my gum choice is trident and they switched to one of
Starting point is 00:58:57 these artificial sweeteners that did contain something that fucked up your bowels like wow like for a little while. Yeah. I was just like, uh-oh. This is bad. What the fuck's happening? Wow. Chewing a piece of gum?
Starting point is 00:59:11 From chewing a piece of gum. The fallout of one rich guy being like, this could save us a hundred thousandth of a cent per pack. Yeah. And now everyone's farting. Painting toilets across the nation. So, yeah. They go on and and many other flavors the like the sort of verdict seems to be the same for all of them which is like this shit is a failure it tastes fake it tastes like medicine it's there's nothing pleasant about it it's barely
Starting point is 00:59:40 carbonated what are we doing damn i'm gonna to love this stuff. I know I am. You think so? I love medicine-tasting crap. I love it. I love medicine-tasting crap. When you read the thing and you're like, it tastes like the Sprite after you have the bubble gum amoxicillin, I was like, that's good.
Starting point is 01:00:01 I think they're trying to deter me, but I want that. That should be on the poster. I love Necco wafers i love the circus peanuts candy i love the crap oh wow taste and medicine taste and crap it's kind of amazing that they failed this i mean it granted like this is going to appeal to some fucking freaks like kyle just but i understand no but the because you that you you read about like what their food laboratories are like and you know they have these concepts of like mouth feel and you know mountain dew is i think one of the great you know triumphs of human soul destroying uh capitalism because it's just like so perfect at accomplishing what it's trying to do and then to like have that same team or i guess it wasn't the same team but like the same company designed something that falls this flat and like misses
Starting point is 01:01:03 what people like about Mountain Dew so badly. It actually gives me a little bit of hope for the future of America because it's like, oh, maybe we're not on rails towards just a world where- You know, maybe Mountain Dew's The Godfather, maybe Baja Blast is part two, and maybe the hard stuff here is part three. It's a little bit late. A lot of the people aren't good but you know standalone it might be alright it's not his fault Goodfellas
Starting point is 01:01:28 aka Topo Chico's Hard Seltzers came out around the same time I mean this it's like you said Jack it's like how does how does PepsiCo lose their way you know how did they lose their way
Starting point is 01:01:43 why didn't they stand up this sounds like the beginning to the biggest blow-off class at any college welcome folks to the history of Mountain Dew here at Glenview Community College economics class we'll be exploring how Pepsi lost their way it's brown it's one of the American school 203 the history of mountain dew folks i think this would just be a whole class about foods that aren't colors you've ever seen right this isn't a nature color but i mean like that's where you feel like they should know their market well enough like the like the marketing of like the can right even if you look at the graphics on the can, it's like a fucking bear is ripping off a mountain.
Starting point is 01:02:32 They're like these agro animals and shit on it. It looks like somebody who welds without a fucking eye protection or face protection on it. That's the energy I get from the cans. So to suddenly be like, but we got to compete with the 100 cal, zero sweetener, zero sugar added folks. Like, I just don't,
Starting point is 01:02:51 I think that's where they fuck up by just not being aggressively being like, it's basically pre-mixed cocktail with Mountain Dew in it. Yeah. I'm looking at these cans and it says that Mountain Dew
Starting point is 01:03:01 was actually invented to be a mixer when it was invented overall. Is that true? actually invented to be a mixer when it was invented overall. Is that true? Originally intended to be a mixer for alcoholic spirits. When Mountain Dew was created more than 80 years ago, the brand is returning to its roots in one of the first alcoholic versions of a major soft drink. Based on the origins and the original marketing around it, I would have to assume that spirit was moonshine? I mean, it's like, Mountain Dew
Starting point is 01:03:27 does taste like it was invented to make you not taste something else. Right. Yeah. It's like, I exist to cover up death. I never feel direct wiring from something I'm putting into my
Starting point is 01:03:44 body to my brain as directly as i do when i drink a mountain dew it's just like there's it's just so direct and like i don't know jacking into the matrix yeah i'm jacking into the fucking baja blast mainframe there's this comedian who lives in atlanta named andy sanford who has a joke about how he's getting too old to just be walking down the street with a bottle of Mountain Dew. You can't just have that in your hands after 30. Yeah. It's green. Yeah. I mean, I do look, I do look, I like to give somebody a quick up and down. If I see him cruising with a big old bottle of Mountain Dew, I'm like, hold on, hold on. Yeah. You might be worth talking to. I mean, you would be, you'd be doing a lot of, your eyes would get tired in the South,
Starting point is 01:04:26 man. That's, uh, yeah, that's just about everyone. But that's why I'm curious why people aren't, you know, rising up and saying, this is not our King. Our King is chock full of high fructose corn syrup and, you know, maybe drinking all the Mountain Dew is why they're not rising up. I mean, to Kyle, to Kyle's point though, they, like, I, I have to assume that they, you know maybe drinking all the mountain dew is why they're not rising up i mean to kyle to kyle's point though they like i i have to assume that they you know when they're picking a test market
Starting point is 01:04:50 they're just like looking at where sales for tannerite are like at their highest and right you know like going there tennessee iowa florida i just i feel like you the the mountain dew drinking populace is maybe not the the one you want to fuck with. Or maybe they are. Maybe they're all just. They might be looking at like Nielsen ratings for more reruns and then just releasing the hard Mountain Dew in those markets. All right. So this actually I wanted to quick sidebar want to put this in a category of pop culture things that you know listeners hit us with with your
Starting point is 01:05:26 answers to this question but this feels to me like a like obvious great idea that in execution sucked like my my other example that i could come up with in like the two minutes after between me thinking of that and when we started recording was like i feel like water world was like a cool great idea and then the execution wasn't quite there um i'm also stealing from the reddit thread because there there is a reddit thread that was like great uh great idea bad execution they called uh pointed to downsized that like matt damon movie about adults being shrunk uh down and i've always said that like that is shrunk shrunk down people shrunk down characters is a under exploited like movie idea like because we got honey i shrunk the kids which is now like outdated and it was for kids um and like the only adult version we've gotten is downsized i i guess maybe ant-man but it feels
Starting point is 01:06:33 like that but you want it like like inner space you want more like people got people got all tiny all of a sudden adults adults got tiny give it to me. Or they could be kids. I don't give a fuck. Just remake Honey, I Shrunk the Kids. No. You do feel like there should be as many Shrinkin' People movies as there are these other sort of heist movies. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:54 Yeah, yeah. Give me more Shrunk People. How often can we rob a casino? Like that, dude. I don't know. That captured my imagination. Who would be in the Honey, I Shrunk the Kids reboot? I think Andy Samberg plays Rick Moranis.
Starting point is 01:07:07 Yeah. You know what I mean? I don't remember any of the other... And then I think we're good to go, and we made it. That's enough to get you in. That'll get you in the room. Yeah. And someone plays a big giant ant.
Starting point is 01:07:18 That's the other part I remember when they were in the front yard. Freaked the shit out of me when the sprinklers come on. You thought that was somebody playing that giant ant it wasn't no miles that was a real giant ant they shrunk those damn kids shit i got laughed at when i when it was uh what do i want to be when i grow up project in kindergarten i said i want to be i want to be the performer that plays the ant and honey i shrunk the kids do you guys have examples of this? Like ideas that seem like, okay, that's going to be great,
Starting point is 01:07:47 and then they suck? The Hindenburg? Yeah, the Hindenburg is a great idea. Look at that. You can float around all cool. It has a renewable resource involved. Unfortunately, the renewable resource is fairly flammable.
Starting point is 01:08:02 The dirigible future that was promised where everybody's just fucking blimping around blimping around everywhere yeah blimping super underrated i think man i it's it's so weird because you say that i'm like man fuck with water but yeah i know it's bad and i guess that's why it's some i'm trying to think i'm like okay what did i i just wish there was they gave me just a little bit more. I feel like so many things are like that, but it's hard for me to pick something at the moment. I'm really into like the premise of these new Jurassic Park movies where like the dinosaurs got out. Right.
Starting point is 01:08:39 But like apparently those movies suck. Like apparently those movies suck. But like if we just live, just give me a world where we live in a place where, you know, there's a you have to be inside today inside like a metal cage caged home today because dinosaurs are like coming through like that. That's a fun future. What about mini discs? Yo, that's so I was literally gonna say that really what i'm like what did i because i had to think to myself i'm like what's something that i fucked with and it was a holdout for a long time like oh yeah insisting that this was gonna work and i yo i used to i used to make so many little custom mini discs and shit.
Starting point is 01:09:25 And I thought I was on, you know, there's the wave of the future until like burnable CDs and like CD drives became like, you know, ubiquitous. But I really, the mini disc felt like a, I don't know, there's some of the physical media that made a mini disc feel like, like what I was listening to was really important. The mini disc felt like you had evidence. Right. Like someone's handing you Intel, but it's actually a Switchfoot song. Wait, I don't think I ever paid attention to mini-discs. Just small CDs. No one did.
Starting point is 01:09:57 But that's because they were invented the same time as very, very early 128 megabyte MP3 players. Right. So they were replaced by nothing the cloud immediately yeah i mean because it was like you know this the like last dying farts of the physical media industry and be like what if you got this though and it's easy to just record on these they're like tapes but they're cds they didn't exist long enough to have the stuff everywhere where cds are still't exist long enough to have the stuff everywhere where cds are still kind of around because every cd players are involved blah blah
Starting point is 01:10:28 blah like a mini disc player was so niche its whole existence right i feel like in the food category pizza hut has dropped a lot of specialty pizzas on us that are like amazing ideas and then every time i have them they just taste like extra salt, extra salty pizza. For sure. I did have the Little Caesars Batman pizza calzone combination. You did? Yeah. Go on.
Starting point is 01:10:54 I do have my limited edition, the Batman art that says Little Caesars pizza on it. It is, it tastes, it's a little liquid. The whole thing kind of tastes a little too wet to be pizza or calzone. Yeah. What do you mean? Like too soft? It's like soft and runny and it all sort of mushes together. Sort of, you ever see that area where two oceans meet and one of them is a little brown
Starting point is 01:11:17 and the other one is blue? Yeah. And it's like, that's what the pizza feels like. You don't know what to do. Where you're like, shouldn't all this be? Shouldn't this just be mixing? And it's like, oh, no, the ingredients are bumping into each other in a weird way. Wow. And did you see the Batman or just?
Starting point is 01:11:31 Oh, no, I'm gonna go see that today. Wow. OK. I like to go in the middle of the day when there's less people around. Yeah. OK. Oh, that way you can get emotional in there and not feel bad. That way I can keep asking my girlfriend, which one's the Batman?
Starting point is 01:11:46 I like to do fun stuff like that. Oh, so he's Batman. You figured out a little ways in. You just like to do fun little, fun little gags. Like there's a, there's fun to be had in empty movie theaters.
Starting point is 01:11:58 Right. Oh, Batman. Like that sort of thing. Oh, I thought it was Batman. I'm hoping to figure out finally what happened to his parents right i'm just hoping this movie finally covers these same two fictional people i've seen
Starting point is 01:12:11 died nine times this century if they were like the fact that the joker jammed that in there was very i don't know but the the if they if they dramatize that scene one more time. It'd be so funny. I hope Robert Pattinson's Batman finds that out by watching one of the other Batman movies on an iPad. Because I know that it came up because there's something in the new movie that suggests that the timeline of his parents' death was 2001. And people were like, so that means that he was coming from, like they were coming from the first Fast and the Furious movie. Or, you know, Shrek or something like that.
Starting point is 01:12:55 If they just could have held off to have him leaving Twilight, it would have been like a perfect, perfect nod. And then I would be okay with seeing it again. Yeah. Well, Kyle, as always, a true pleasure having you on TDZ. Where can people find you, follow you, all that good stuff? I'm Kyle Ayers on Instagram and Twitter, and I have a podcast called Never Seen It, where comedians rewrite movies they've never seen. That's going to be coming back pretty soon. We got like Henry Zebrowski and Mara Wilson and some fun people who are going to be doing that. And, uh, but you know, follow me online. I'll post about it. Nice. Uh, and is there a tweet or some other work of social media you've been enjoying?
Starting point is 01:13:31 Uh, yeah, I, um, dang, this is fine. We just talked about this, so I don't want to do that.
Starting point is 01:13:34 I'm glad I wrote two down. So Ellie crime and all, I hope I said that properly. I might not have tweeted. So grateful for my spa treatment today. And then in parentheses held face above strainer while making Mac and cheese. And it's very relatable. Miles,
Starting point is 01:13:53 where can people find you? What's tweet you've been enjoying? Find me on Twitter and Instagram at miles of gray. And also the other pod for 20 day fiance with Sophia Alexandra, where we talk about 90 Day Fiance. Tweets that I like at Slappy, but it's with a V, S-L-V-P-P-Y. Tweeted, if you're stealing your first pair of AirPods, you are a responsible motherfucker for real. And I thank you.
Starting point is 01:14:18 I felt that. Are you stealing your first pair of AirPods? Yeah, yeah. It's also the panic of like, when I lost shit as a kid, my parents were like, okay, here's the new policy. It's one and done. It's like, but I need that. It's like, well, you shouldn't have lost that shit because it's expensive. I'm like, but I need my Police Academy handheld video game from Tiger Electronics.
Starting point is 01:14:41 That is a need. Huh? That is a need. You don't want to lose exactly uh another one is from uh shahana underscore sreeni shahana srinivasan tweeted you were searched 43 times on linkedin this week okay so where's my job which feels uh yeah it's always like what does that even mean and then uh steven monticelli at steven s-t-e-v-a-n z-e-t-t-i tweeted mike jones blowing on that indo gamecube nintendo 14 year old steven he gets me although have to pull your card there that was actually a slim thug who said that part it wasn't
Starting point is 01:15:20 mike jones on that song on tiffin anyway shout out to mike wow nice try that was your nice that was your message to that tweet that you were having you can find me on twitter at jack underscore o'brien a couple tweets i've been enjoying at twitter's bad boy tgb on twitter tweeted uh i'm at a cardiology convention in chicago and the keynote speaker is being arrested for murder that's a fugitive reference and adam serious tweeted me here's your 30th birthday card friend crying please stop one was plenty you can find us on twitter at daily zeitgeist we're at the daily zeitge on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, DailyZeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes. Footnotes.
Starting point is 01:16:11 We link off the information that we talked about in today's episode as well as a song we think you might enjoy. What Mileswood song do we think people should go check out? Oh, just some nice little beats that'll make you feel like you're in 1997 this is a track called little creatures by jade cicada and i don't know when i when i first heard this song it felt like something that would have been in like the movie like wild things or like uh intolerable cruelty or something where it just feels like those kinds of instrumentals where you just should like it's just to reveal a character.
Starting point is 01:16:45 And you're like, oh, they're cool because this song's cool. And that's the very specific idea I had when I heard this song. So this is Little Creatures by Jade Cicada. All right. Well, go check that song out. The Daily Zyka is a production of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. That's going to do it for us this morning. We're back this afternoon to tell you what's trending,
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