The Daily Zeitgeist - Tucker Carlson Foiled By FedEx, The Biggest Story No One’s Talking About 10.30.20

Episode Date: October 30, 2020

In episode 747, Jack and Miles are joined by international journalist and host of the podcast Q Clearance Jake Hanrahan to discuss the conflict in Azerbaijan, the embarrassing debate for the Georgia S...enatorial race, Tucker Carlson blaming FedEx for losing "damning" Hunter Biden documents, Kim Kardashian’s lavish, private island 40th birthday party, and more!FOOTNOTES: Oh Dear, Jon Ossoff Debate Did Not Go 'Well' For Georgia Sen. David Perdue 'Damning Hunter Biden Documents Suddenly Vanish' In Azerbaijan Rocket Attack, a String of Explosions, Screams and Then Blood Why did an Oregon health official dressed like a clown read off the coronavirus death toll? Kim Kardashians Lavish Birthday Party: 'Read the Room' WATCH: slowthai - feel away ft. James Blake, Mount Kimbie Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:27 My name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. Jackula. Just kidding, guys. It's still me. I'm not the scary ghost. And I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray! With so many stories on TDZ, it's kind of hard being Jack and Miles a G. But we somehow, someway, keep saying shit like fuck Fox News like every single day. May I kick a little something for the Zeit gang? TDZ, shout out to Dan, to Instu, Roland Blunson.
Starting point is 00:03:01 I'm high right now because Jack and Anna ain't home. Okay, and this motherfucking, this fucking AK keeps going keeps going but i'm gonna just hit the chorus one more time i am miles g smoking homegrown looking up trending news faded with my mind on some hot takes and some hot takes on my mind shout out to you exlocutioner there we go a bit of a twist wow that's like some lingua franca type shit that's you know what i mean yeah exlocutioner xlu x e x l u okay so it's not like elocution no i mean who knows we don't know the origin of this name but we'll give them credit okay um miles it's election time. It's COVID time.
Starting point is 00:03:50 We're trimming down the format, getting right into all the shit there is to talk about. Today, we are talking about, you know, we're not usually a true crime podcast, but there is a mystery to solve. What happened to Tuckerlson's documents um we're going to talk about those explosive documents that went missing uh as well as just how the gop just can't quit this hunter biden shit uh we're going to talk about david purdue uh going up against asif in a debate we're going to talk about um the armenia azerbaijan conflict we're going to talk about the Armenia-Azerbaijan conflict. We're going to talk about Oregon, where their health official
Starting point is 00:04:29 announced COVID stats and clown makeup. And we're going to talk about Kim Kardashian's birthday, because that is important. The full spectrum. All of that. We might even get to Nickelodeon's presidential election for kids. But first, we'd like to introduce uh our guest in our third seat
Starting point is 00:04:50 uh he is a real journalist uh he is uh the host and executive producer of one of our newest shows q clearance he is the hilarious the talented the brilliant jake hammerhead what's up man yeah i'm good man i feel like i should start singing or something now but yeah yeah i'm good how you doing welcome welcome uh what's what's good man how how has your uh dive into the world of uh q clearance of the q conspiracy been treating your mental health first of all let me ask you know what it's it's like so tiring like constantly having to remind myself about all these weird terms that they've come up with um but you know what the deliberating thing with it once i just let go like how can they believe that how have they tied them two together when you let go and
Starting point is 00:05:44 just go okay they do that's it you just it's much easier you know you don't find a reason right right right yeah i always feel like when i'm listening to you kind of give people insight and like just you know it's a it's a great primer for the whole q conspiracy if you have a parent perhaps who's dabbling uh and you want to just explain it and like get that shit over with once and for all it's great for that um but i always feel a little bit of embarrassment because uh you are not american and this is a uniquely dumbly american product of our culture so just like hearing you be like yeah he's right he's motherfuckers we've got him now though we have like british q anons as well like oh hell yeah just like
Starting point is 00:06:32 everything else you know you give us that's bad we've exported that and taken it as well so yeah we've got you know we've got obesity from mcdonald's and we've got q anon now as well so it is what it is yeah but it's uh it's been definitely an eye-opener to see the way that you know this is accumulated online but yeah it's it's here to stay for the moment anyway yeah do you think a lot of people who engage in it are using it purely to sort of avoid a reality in which there is like systemic racism and a bungled COVID-19 response? Or do you think like, or is there a split of people who are so dedicated to this very narrowly that it's like, well, yeah, I know that stuff going on, but this Q stuff too is really, really.
Starting point is 00:07:15 I'd say the majority of people are very like hardcore dedicated to it. I mean, you'd have to be the very first prediction completely failed and didn't happen so to follow it from then on like you have to be but there are certainly i'd say even within them hardcore elements there's there's a part of it where it's just like i think with any conspiracy theorist like life is quite boring in a way you know what i mean like often often the the even when it's a corruption case often the details details are nowhere near as dramatic as it would be if it was on a film or whatever. So it's almost like they just spice up their life a little bit with just bullshit. You know what I mean? Unfortunately.
Starting point is 00:07:55 Right. And I can kind of see it. Spice up your life. Yeah. Yeah, pretty much. I understand in a way, but it's crazy. I understand in a way, but it's crazy. It turns the internet and just, you know, we have this endless amount of information and it uses that to like turn reality into the Da Vinci code, which is a thing that we know they loved. We know Americans love that shit.
Starting point is 00:08:19 Yeah. All right. I read that whole book, you know, when I was like 19. Yeah. And I got to the end and was like what the fuck did i do that for like yeah me too i had the exact same response time my uh i had relatives who really enjoyed it and i was it the only effect it had was maybe i'm like man they are kind of dumb um i felt like everyone's like for me all my white friends dads were reading the division yep and i was like all right i'm good on this and then all your white friends dads are
Starting point is 00:08:51 now q anon subscribers you know i might have to go back and do a little analysis there's something there may be some might be a connection there um all right jake we like to start off by asking our guests what is something from your search history uh that's revealing about who you are or what you're way i had a look actually just before um and it was it was pretty weird uh so this is weird one is a frazzle drip do you know what that is no that's the conspiracy theory from QAnons that there's a video of Hillary Clinton cutting off a kid's face and wearing it, which, yeah, it's fucked up. What a fun name for such a horrifying thing. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:39 So I looked that up. That sounds like a weird, like, drug term inside the sesame street universe it's something like that yeah what's wrong with oscar elmo yeah oscar got that frazzle drip yeah it was frazzle drip and then i looked again it was suicide drones and then the other was xanax which i wasn't looking for for myself. I can't remember why I searched that, but yeah. Yeah, that seems to be trending lately. I could do with some. Two mentions in a row.
Starting point is 00:10:12 Yeah, two shows in a row. Two days in a row, Xanax mentions. If we get a Xanax mention on tomorrow's episode, that's going to be the old trifecta. That means to go out and buy Xanax stock. Yeah, that means Glaxoxo smith klein will be our presenting sponsor they switched the samples sorry what was the second thing that you searched uh suicide drone yeah so can you explain what suicide drones are or why you were searching that
Starting point is 00:10:37 yeah well it ties into the armenia azerbaijan conflict there's a lot of them are being used some people call them loitering munitions which i don't know why i think you know it is by its very nature a suicide drone so it's like essentially a uav like unmanned aircraft but not like the kind of ones that you know obama and bush was sending out over yemen i'm like these are small ones right with like bombs attached them and they just i mean you see when they get the target they just fly into it right like imagine there was a little like like, it's like, imagine there was like a borrower and he was a kamikaze pilot. It's that basically.
Starting point is 00:11:12 Wow. And they're very, very like, I mean, it's just, it's almost impossible to get away from them. You know, like you've seen, you see footage of them and you just see it flying down and then it goes blank. Obviously that's when it's landed. But yeah, so I was just kind of researching them and just like fuck this is scary man yeah yeah and i'd imagine those are easier to kind of pull off and get your hands on right because it doesn't require a giant military
Starting point is 00:11:38 grade exactly well china and like america and israel they're all making their own. But I remember like in Iraq, ISIS were making their own, which they were just, you know, like a DJI or DJI, whatever it is, like the little drones you get off Amazon. You put it in your pocket, right? They would get them and they would attach like a mortar round to it. And they had like some mechanical arm. So they were, you know, there was a way they could rig it to let go. And they would just fly above people and just let go you know and then the water round would drop and that's what all soldiers were like just terrified of man because you know you hear everybody's running right right right yeah and i think the the the name is so like the euphemistic
Starting point is 00:12:21 loitering music munitions as if they're like teenagers smoking cigarettes. Like what the fuck? Like loitering munitions? Jesus Christ. There's so many things like that in conflict. And it's like, say what it is, you know? Yeah. Right.
Starting point is 00:12:36 I guess that's how we keep that military industrial complex humming. It's like, no, I don't make suicide drones. I make loitering munitions. That's right. Don't make this barbecue awkward. They do have the best barbecues, the military industrial complex. Oh, yeah. You go to somebody who works for Raytheon.
Starting point is 00:12:55 Woo, boy. They got the good shit. What, Jake, is something you think is underrated? I was thinking about this, actually this actually this is kind of a bit of an abstract one but i think it's underrated uh going on websites that aren't social media like i was talking to someone the other day and i was like you know mentioning and they're like why do you even have a website like what's the point anymore i was like what like there's so many you know there's so many cool websites still out there but all anybody does is just go on
Starting point is 00:13:23 social media now um so i think that's definitely underrated like you can find some cool message boards and stuff i i you know i grew up on the internet man and i i hate the way social media just ring fenced it all into this like argument but um yeah underrated going on other websites that aren't social media yeah what kind of websites you trafficking like what time you what are you heading to to get off the social media um horn hub no i'm joking um sponsor the show no like all sorts of stuff like i was reading a message board the other day about um bao fang radios and ham radio and stuff like that and it's really nerdy but i was just looking at it and it was so cool to just see them in their own little community completely detached from anyone else like there's no one chirping in and be like oh fucking nerds or like right right right you know vote now or
Starting point is 00:14:13 whatever it was just like yeah right like or some nazi or whatever it was just like these guys having some crazy like very uh nerdy conversation about ham radios and i i don't fully understand most of what they were saying but i guess i just got lost in it radios and i i don't fully understand most of what they were saying but i guess i just got lost in it you know and i was like oh right great yeah i do that sometimes with just like plumbing uh when if there's like a plumbing issue or like some issue i have to figure out around the house or like finding a uh a manual for something like you go into a forum that's like just super expert and it's like ah i feel like i'm in the 80s all the stuff right yeah yeah there's something really like nice about
Starting point is 00:14:52 it sorry yeah or you have a question you go into like a message board and you're like you know what i'm gonna i'm gonna engage this message board and i'm gonna dabble and like everyone's super nice like like doing like the most friendly mansplaining of an electrical issue. They're like, okay, let me walk you through this. I'm like, damn, this motherfucker had 15 minutes to type this screed, but very informative. And was very kind. Because other places, you feel like Reddit, you go to other places where there's communities going, you ask a dumb question. What the?
Starting point is 00:15:21 What, you just fucking found out yesterday about this shit? It's nice when you go to places and they want to share the info yeah i had a thing um on twitter i was like asking how to get a radio code for like this shit car that i had and this guy i'd screenshot it somewhere this guy was like kill yourself dickhead i was like okay thanks fucking crazy man i was like oh twitter is not the place to ask anything man no absolutely not i thought one of the best metaphors of the uh of that show uh that movie the social dilemma was them talking about um how like imagine if when you went to wikipedia like the page just changed depending on what they thought you wanted to read like that's and that's what your social media reality is and that's all anybody uses anymore like that's that's what's right that's what's fun yeah like there are times when i was like i thought
Starting point is 00:16:20 i used to be more into like street cars and i'm like that's just because at a moment i was scrolling a bunch of shit and it kept giving giving me like this information it's weird how i found like after watching the social dilemma trying to realize how much it was informing like what i was getting interested in like even very passively not that it was like i was getting you know radicalized on the internet but i was like oh i'm more into like you know nissan skyline gtr pics or things like that and then suddenly and now it's like oh do you like uh like fantastic throw blankets because i'm i was like cold in my house and i'm like i need a throw blanket but i'm like what happened to my skyline content i don't know yeah it's freaky shit's freaky
Starting point is 00:16:59 your taste in nissans has always been a little radical uh well you know that's the thing you know i had a cousin in j Japan who had a Skyline. People don't know this. They don't have them shits in the U.S. They don't know the beauty about that car. I mean, unless you feel like the fast-food franchise. The old Japanese ones, I love them. You know, like the old Japanese with the boxy ones.
Starting point is 00:17:16 Yeah, love them, man. Yeah, yeah. See, I see a sports car, and I'm like, fuck, that's horrible. I see one of them old-school 90s boxy Nissans. Love it, man. Yeah, yeah. With you on that. Especially those circular taillights the circular tail lights baby should look like a batmobile on a budget definitely uh what is something you think is overrated jake uh borat the second one
Starting point is 00:17:36 didn't it's like yeah it hits different very on the nose yeah or not all right it was very on the nose and i just found that like you know i could almost excuse the first one when it's like fuck i'm glad i'm not from kazakhstan because i would feel horrible but then it's like the second one when he's kind of trying to be like a little bit woke and a little bit clever politically but then also being like completely destroying kazakhstan's image it's like which part of the joke is that you know like and i love it i love a distasteful joke but it was like hang on you can't have it both ways right you can't suddenly be like oh i'm this you know this liberal guy bringing up this clever satire and also fuck kazakhstan from where i've never been you know
Starting point is 00:18:20 right because it's so right it's poor and i was a bit like no it's for me it's our, right. It's poor. And I was a bit like, nah, it's for me, it's not landing. I thought the door was great. I would have rather have watched just a film of Borat's kid, basically, you know? Yeah. Yeah. But,
Starting point is 00:18:31 um, I didn't know. I, I really, it felt very on the nose to me. I laughed once. And that was when they, when he did the Trudeau thing,
Starting point is 00:18:39 when the black Trudeau, that was funny. I was like, okay, this is funny. But after that, I just, I don't know,
Starting point is 00:18:44 man, I think maybe I've just grown up and just become cynical and a prick you know what i mean but for me it just didn't land yeah i laughed like the laughs i had weren't the same i used to have where i was like oh wow this is a really he's like examining the really fucked up parts of our society in this way before i was just like oh he's grossing this crowd out and that's fucked up and i was more laughing at that more than like this is brilliant because he's playing with like their feelings of of propriety or whatever i was like man this is just a gross out joke that was felt like a good prank but yeah like there was also i think given where we are now or as more people are
Starting point is 00:19:20 you know more aware of what the country is actually like it's just sort of like i don't know i just didn't need it you know like do i need borat to tell me like not really you know like maybe people do you know but for me i just wasn't the one man when you're neck deep in q research right but i never i realized i never really liked borat anyway i felt like ali g was a piss tape because you know sasha baron cohen is a very very um elite rich kid and he was like mugging off like british underclass kids and i was like okay and but i love bruno like i fucking i would love him bruno is so funny like i would watch that 100 times like i love that and all that does is just expose people's like homophobia you know it's not really hurting anyone else as far as i'm aware yeah yeah uh he yeah some some of the bruno shit
Starting point is 00:20:10 that he would do with just uh that not even like exposing homophobia just like the physical comedy of like be uh being like okay now express that to our hearing impaired viewers but like like go right with no words yeah yeah with no words and the guy just like put his hands up in the air oh shit that was maybe the hardest i've ever laughed at anything uh all right let's talk real quick uh about this georgia debate um senator david purdue uh which is probably not how he talks but uh so we'll go with that he's one of those senators you know who got caught dumping stock uh back in february uh but you know i think it's because he just had one of those wall street precogs in his basement who just knew when the market would crash and just told him and it wasn't
Starting point is 00:21:02 anything to do with his access to pandemic related research or information as a sitting united states senator uh that affected his stock dumping either way he was investigated for it it's a big deal he's running against john ossoff and right now they are in a dead locked race uh which a lot of people you know georgia has become more and more purple veering on maybe blue based on like, you know, the slight advantage Biden has, but that's with polls. And that's when like things like votes are counted. So we don't know what that means quite yet. Uh, but in this debate, John Ossoff, it's just refreshing again. Like I know there's a lot of things going on, but sometimes you just have to take a second to breathe when you just have like John Ossoff, who's just, you know, likable guy. And he's just doing that thing where he's debating like, you know, a Republican senator who is more just like a skin sack powered by Petro dollars.
Starting point is 00:21:52 And then you have John Ossoff, who's just going to be like talk very straight up to him. And this he just starts off with this one. And this had everybody on Twitter being like, oh, wow, this is this is a sad sad state of uh debate senator purdue would have been able to respond properly to the covet 19 pandemic if you hadn't been fending off multiple federal investigations for insider trading it's not just that you're a crook senator it's that you're attacking the health of the people that you represent you did say covid19 was no deadlier than the flu you did say there would be no significant uptick in cases all the
Starting point is 00:22:35 while you were looking after your own assets and your own portfolio and you did vote four times to end protections for pre-existing conditions. So this whole time, David Perdue, he's doing this thing where he's trying to be straight-faced even though he's getting fucking straight-ethered on the debate stage where he's like just like rocking back and forth.
Starting point is 00:22:57 He's like, I swear I have something to say if it weren't for this damn debate format, I'd be defending myself hey can i go ahead and lie real quick okay so what john ossoff just said is a fake okay that didn't i mean like it's really really bad so they go on later on he's saying like i i did vote for this and that and it just fell very flat then ossoff goes off on purdue once again
Starting point is 00:23:24 because dude purdue like a lot of these republicans now in the trump era are just you know they've they've left the dog whistles at home and they're just straight bullhorning their racism or anti-semitism xenophobia whatever phobia and john asaf also has some energy for that and just again dismantles him. This is so beneath the office of a U.S. senator. You've continued to demean yourself throughout this campaign with your conduct. First, you were lengthening my nose in attack ads to remind everybody that I'm Jewish. Then when that didn't work, you started calling me some kind of Islamic terrorist. Jesus. And then when that didn't work, you started calling me some kind of islamic terrorist jesus and then when that
Starting point is 00:24:06 didn't work you started calling me a chinese communist it's ridiculous and you shouldn't do everything that your handlers in washington tell you to because you'll lose your soul along the way senator eviscerate eviscerated in such a calm way yeah i love that shit is just um and purdue is just up there again looking straight ahead into camera like uh-huh yeah i guess i did do all this well yeah he was literally he was altering photos of asaf to make his nose look it was he's doing this like really blatant just nasty shit uh but you know we shall see uh what the good people of georgia decide on election day but it's it's definitely tightening and it there was really not much you know purdue could say to defend against that of just being like oh i don't know
Starting point is 00:24:58 so purdue has been in the lead and also feels like kind of closing the gap that sort of that sort of deal yeah like it's gotten tighter and tighter and tighter now and the other race with kelly leffler i mean she's she's the democrat is probably gonna uh is definitely making it to the runoff in january but yeah it doesn't look good for republican senators in the state of georgia at the moment all right well we're gonna take a quick break. We will. 24 hours. BPM 110. 120.
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Starting point is 00:29:40 cannot quit this Hunter Biden shit. They are back on it. Rudy had that interview with kennedy a couple days back in which he claimed he had explosive diarrhea or explosive evidence that shows uh uh biden's are in cahoots with a chinese spy master that was even hard to watch by rudy standards when we saw kennedy look at him and be like really rud, Rudy? And he really had that energy, Rudy, where he's like old man at a buffet insisting that his 17 year old coupons are still valid, like to the manager. Like that's what he sounds like when he's trying to spread these smears. And I was like, I'm, I'm telling you this, there's an expert that this doesn't,
Starting point is 00:30:20 I'm sorry, sir. And so, you know, Steve B bannon also another person who's been doing his best to bang the whatever conspiracy drums he can on his media appearances podcasts and now tucker carlson has i don't know i guess won the award for one of the saddest attempts at manufacturing a controversy uh because he claims he has these explosive documents that will just fucking put an end to hunter biden but here's the thing fedex stole them so um we should be talking about that it's it's such a weird dud of a thing that he did last night i'm just gonna play part of his opening is amazing um where he's really trying to let people know, guys, if it weren't for, well, I guess,
Starting point is 00:31:10 I can't mention that the guy- I would have a better show tonight if it weren't for- I can't mention that the guy who runs FedEx is a huge Trump donor. So he also won't call out FedEx by name. So he's in a really tough spot trying to smear whatever slash not get in the way of FedEx by name. So he's in a really tough spot trying to like smear whatever slash not get in the way of FedEx's business. But here is Tucker Carlson with his just a caper.
Starting point is 00:31:31 My executive producer, Justin Wells, and I were in Los Angeles preparing to interview Tony Bobulinski about the Biden's business dealings in China, Ukraine and other countries. So we texted a producer in New York and we asked him to send those documents to us in L.A. And he did that. The only copies this week, he shipped those documents overnight to California with a large national carrier, a brand name company that we've used, you've used countless times. FedEx. But the Biden documents never arrived in Los Angeles. Tuesday morning, we received word from the shipping company that our package had been open and the contents were missing. The documents had disappeared. Now, to its credit, the company took this very seriously and immediately began a search. They traced the envelope from the moment
Starting point is 00:32:15 our producers dropped it off in Manhattan on Monday all the way to 3.44 a.m. yesterday morning. That's when an employee at a sorting facility in another state noticed that our package was open and empty. Okay, so this goes on where he starts giving a play-by-play about how, like, he's like, They looked for it. They interviewed every single person who may have interacted with it. In the warehouse. Yeah. And then, so then he, so after all that, right, because this was all just a setup, presumably to be like, yo, Hunter Biden is on some bullshit.
Starting point is 00:32:48 But it just turns into like a FedEx lost our damning evidence. He kind of cuts to the chase towards at the end because we're like, what is this all about, Tucker? And then so now he's trying to, I guess, build some kind of conspiracy from this. Those documents have vanished. Those documents have vanished. As of tonight, the company has no idea and no working theory even about what happened to this trove of materials, documents that are directly relevant to the presidential campaign just six days from now. We spoke to executives at that company a few hours ago. They seemed baffled and deeply bothered by this. And so are we. Okay. On Wonkat, they're quick to point out, obviously, that I don't know if you remember, the lawyers for Fox are saying, Tucker Carlson is not a journalist. Okay. He just says some shit. It's like performance art.
Starting point is 00:33:34 So you can't actually hold him accountable by any sort of journalistic standard about what he says. So, yeah. Okay. Well, with that in mind, and I look at this, I'm like, what is that? It doesn't even make sense, right? If you had these documents, why don't you send a PDF? You wouldn't have made copies?
Starting point is 00:33:48 You wouldn't have scanned them in and sent a PDF? You wouldn't have... What the fuck? It only makes sense to people over the age of 65 who are used to a world where everything isn't digitized and immediately you know immediately backed up especially something that is like election altering uh and important it only makes sense if you're if you like your brain still exists in the early 80s basically right oh i'm surprised i mean again if it was that important tucker it feels like something you would actually say to an older parent.
Starting point is 00:34:26 You're like, why would you mail that? Just scan it. Take a photo or something. Don't send the social security card. It would literally be quicker to take a picture of every single page and send it. I haven't put something in the mail in 10 years without taking a picture of it with my phone. Like, I always do that because what if the mail loses it you gotta like have some evidence that you put it in the mail they didn't think to
Starting point is 00:34:50 do that um and i i think that raises questions about tucker carlson's show and whether they're in cahoots with the biden campaign um exactly because they're it looks like tucker carlson is willfully hiding evidence of, uh, improprieties that are occurring on the Biden side of things. So I don't know, maybe Tucker Carlson's a lib. I don't know what's going on, but it's all just part of this undying, just dedication to this October surprise where like, they're so rigidly still like locked into the Hillary Clinton mindset of like like let's get something with emails and the fbi and something else and then that's how voters will somehow ignore the last you know
Starting point is 00:35:33 three and a half four years of this administration or something like that right it's just not it's not working for them i would love to go out on the town with hunter biden like that's all i gotta say oh absolutely fun guy to go out with you know with Hunter Biden. That's all I got to say. Oh, absolutely. He's a fun guy to go out with, you know? Yeah. They're going after the wrong person, too. Hunter Biden is relatable. Most American people know somebody who's-
Starting point is 00:35:58 Yeah, or has struggled with any kind of substance abuse issues, and you're like, oh, man, right. That's not- Yeah, the whole of America. Yeah, exactly. But the way trump is talking about i was like this guy's a bum huh can you believe it joe biden said he loved his addict son what the fuck america you want this soft ass as a president you're like what the fuck most people statistically have probably encountered something like this in their life
Starting point is 00:36:20 more than even like half the other bullshit that he spews but i guess we should keep in mind too that rudy uh and steve bannon also uh have some legal liability so they would be doing their best to try and keep this president in office in case they needed some kind of pardon uh whether that's rudy's you know foreign lobbying work that has still gone unresolved or steve bannon's you know build the wall fraud uh festival uh where he's got like, what, $25 million out of thin air. So can the president like assuming there's not a massive polling error? I said I still am very worried about Pennsylvania and Pennsylvania is the swing state and the polling is like very tight in Pennsylvania. But just in the scenario where trump loses can he act more unaccountable like can he be like you know he's acted so far like he doesn't know that anybody like could be
Starting point is 00:37:17 paying attention and uh prosecuting him but like if he's a a lame duck president like just dropping fucking pardons left and right like he's gonna it's gonna be a sight to behold if yeah if we actually come to that point yeah and i'm sure there'll be some executive orders and things like that like spite orders on the way out if again that assumes that uh we get to tuesday and it's not outright rat fuck fest 2020 when it comes to counting ballots and things like that because we're already seeing uh you know a lot of tense uh you know ballot counters and things like that hoping that we get through this somewhat scot-free but yeah i mean uh who knows i don't think there's any limit to what he'll attempt especially you know we see what he looks like when he has his back against the wall and he
Starting point is 00:38:08 he does he will bring everything down with him yeah but pennsylvania is going to be a complete fucking rap fuck fest there because they can't start counting until the day of the election so it's going to look like uh trump wanting to blow out when everybody goes to bed on election night we'll see we'll see we'll see we'll see who knows hey come on now let's live in the present and then we'll deal with that shit when it creeps up on our doorstep yeah yeah uh let's talk about the uh armenia azerbaijan conflict i feel like the mission of our show is to look at the American zeitgeist, but, um, you know, we also, I feel like there,
Starting point is 00:38:49 there is generally a, like stories like this should be part of the American zeitgeist, right? Like the America should, should care more about conflicts that are happening overseas that, uh, don't directly involve uh the american military um yeah but yeah miles you you were pointing out that the la times has been doing some
Starting point is 00:39:12 reporting and uh it's kind of intersected with just stuff you're seeing with your own friends yeah i mean in terms of this conflict are for for in la you know the the most armenians living outside of armenia reside in southern california so i've grown up around armenian people playing sports with like hockey teams my high school my personal life uh my godchildren they're you know like we you if you're in la you know about the armenian experience and about month ago, I saw all the flags come out. Normally it's on April 24th marking the genocide, but the flag started coming out in force and I did not know what was going on. I started seeing this hashtag of ArtSocStrong. I'm like, what is happening? Then I look around and you realize that it's going off over this very contested
Starting point is 00:40:02 region, which Armenian Azerbaijan had fought over in the late 80s, early 90s. So from there, I was like, OK, so this is a hotly contested region. I've known it even like from soccer, because on Arsenal, we had an Armenian player named Henrikh Mkhitaryan, who's Armenian. We were playing the Europa League final in Azerbaijan. And it was very controversial because he was saying he did not want to play in Azerbaijan because of the Karabakh region. And so it was like, so I was like, damn, this is a lot of swirling around here. And now in the L.A. Times, because of the communities that are in this city, we are starting to see a lot of men and women leaving Los Angeles to go to Armenia to fight. to fight. Because for a lot of Armenians who have been displaced, they look at the reason being in Los Angeles or outside of Armenia as an extension of unstable relations in that region over their
Starting point is 00:40:51 lifetimes. And going back has been like a no brainer. Like there are people who are saying, I have to go back, even though I've only lived, I've lived in the US most of my life, my connection is still to this land across the world that I still feel the need to defend. And the more you look into it, it is just a harrowing conflict where people, the loss of life is just, it's massive. And we're not really talking about it in this country because A, I think for obvious reasons, there's an election going on. So now Americans, or at least the media goes, the only thing that exists is this horse race. But meanwhile, I'm looking at my city and I'm seeing a lot of pain. I'm seeing a lot of suffering.
Starting point is 00:41:34 I'm seeing a lot of hurt people. I see Armenian Americans getting all of their resources together to try and send back to Armenia to help people on the front lines of this conflict. And I'm just like, I think we're doing ourselves a disservice by ignoring it. I'm certainly doing myself a disservice by not talking about it because I see it affecting my community in Los Angeles and the broader, you know, in the globe. So I think, Jake, what's great about having you here is that you cover global conflict on your twitter feed i see you post a lot about this conflict as well so i i figured it'd be great to just from your
Starting point is 00:42:11 perspective give people a bit of uh background on this and just how quickly this is devolving yeah man i mean to give you this is grim but to give you an idea of how quickly this is devolving, I mean, it's what, a month old now, there's been one beheading, an Azerbaijani soldier beheaded an Armenian guy, filmed it, put it on the social media, and then the other day the Azeri soldiers kind of captured two Armenians. One was an old man who was in his 70s and the other lad was lad was like 25 they wrapped an armenian flag around them and then just executed them like shot them filmed it put that on social media and then there was footage the other day of uh armenian soldiers had killed an aziri soldier and like answered his phone and it was his family and they're like yeah your son's dead like to give my point is it's very very extreme very grim very fast you know what i mean
Starting point is 00:43:06 but it was always going to be this way because of the situation now they're essentially fighting over contested land and annoyingly you know the un has said oh well that land is kind of officially azerbaijan's so then everyone says oh well the un said we can have it and it's like who cares what the un said like the un ignores war crimes all the time you know what i mean right i don't think they're legitimate in that sense and then you've got azerbaijan with loads and loads and loads of money loads of money on military spending turkeys backing them up sending syrian mercenaries um to fight for azerbaijan they they've already parked two Turkish F-16 planes they just dropped a load of these suicide drones and then if you look at the Armenians like their spending is miniscule compared they're a very poor country in that respect and you've just got like
Starting point is 00:43:58 the whole community like you said just people just going and being like we have to go and fight I mean the prime minister Nikolai Pashinyan he said the other day like we'll fight to the end now like basically i think he realized no one is coming to help russia kind of meant to help armenia but they don't really care um so i think he just realized like we just you know we'll fight to the end it's not helpful talk but that's the desperation right like he's told everybody if you can pick up a rifle pick one up and go to the region so i think it's very weird to see that modern day kind of vibe that happening in these two countries and then for it to be mostly ignored um especially when it can you know i mean essentially you've got turkey which are helping azerbaijan a nato country um which
Starting point is 00:44:41 obviously america is a part of azerbaijan have literally said they want to genocide people like i'm not exaggerating they've literally said like officially like yes we will wipe them all out like we want to get rid of every single armenian on this land in fact in 2005 i think it was the foreign minister was in germany of all places and said you see what you guys the nazis did to the jews we want to do that to armenians literally said that it's official you can look it up so there's no kind of misconception about what is going to happen there and like you said earlier like you know genocide watch i think they put it up to level nine whatever that means but basically saying this is going to be very very bad if the
Starting point is 00:45:19 azeri soldiers get to where they're trying to go now i'm not i'm not trying to add like all the armenians are these you know complete angels they're not it's a war war's grim and nasty i mean today armenia used uh cluster munitions on people in azerbaijan which is a big no-no you know it's uh i think it's a war crime actually technically in the un's eyes i don't know so yeah it's grim but war is grim and war is fought by you know brutal violence but essentially azerbaijan did start this offensive a month ago you know i've been following this very closely for years not just now like um on my podcast popular front we did a we did a episode about nagorno-karabakh three years ago
Starting point is 00:45:56 basically saying this is what will happen if the war kicks off um and it you know we were right so it's very very grim it's happening very fast and like you said it's pulling in diaspora it's pulling in different countries where like you know russia has a base in armenia but they supply weapons to azerbaijan turkey nato everything so it's a big mess man and it's worrying it's gonna go bad i think and we're also even starting to see people like audition drones uh in this battlefield like we're starting to see this new like what the new era of drone warfare is starting to look like with like a lot because they're getting drones from russia or israel or israel or turkey and things like that where now it's like well uh it's it's also grim to see like how how things how quickly the fighting is even evolving technologically too
Starting point is 00:46:43 uh from like you know from the 90s we used to think of like oh it's like small munitions fire and like mortars and now we're talking about these kinds of drones and yeah it's it's really harrowing and i think for me what really breaks my heart is like i think in the u.s right we don't we we have an attention span for global suffering that is like very very narrow uh and but this is like one of those moments i think for especially for people in la if you know if you have your eyes open and know people in the armenian community like it's really fucked up to even think right these are people i grew up with who are now saying like yo my cousins just left to
Starting point is 00:47:20 go fight and i'm like didn't they grow up in the valley they're like yeah but this is the purpose now of our lives um and when you hear people say that my life's purpose has become very clear suddenly it you feel sick you feel awful you you wanted help you don't know what's wrong with your own country because there's you know we saw that there was a ceasefire broke brokered but that was that fell apart like within an hour i feel like there's been three three ceasefires none of them lasted more than like 10 minutes it's crazy right now and there's also like yeah i feel like azerbaijan has done a great job of uh you know greenwashing uh a lot of their actions around the world where you can see like some people aren't really talking about it with the full breadth of facts that they should be um and it's yeah that's another part that i think is
Starting point is 00:48:09 really fucked up is that people are also getting very you know unbalanced uh presentations of what the situation is you know you're right and and also because azerbaijan has a lot more money to spend on that you know the sock puppet accounts all of that influence in the media i mean jesus christ the other day the official instagram account of azerbaijan mcdonald's was promoting the war literally saying like go soldiers like mcdonald's like what the fuck um and the problem is you know people send me oh well you you're biased to this you're biased to armenia and i'm saying it's not biased to point out one side has literally said we want to genocide someone that's literally the truth if as if armenia does something bad we discuss it as well i say well why do they use you
Starting point is 00:48:50 know cluster munitions um but but when one side is literally saying we want to genocide you and the armenians have already been through a genocide which nato's second largest country or nato's second largest army uh turkey denies ever happened having done it like you gotta say this is not good like this is going very bad and you're talking about like you know you're seeing people leave from la well we saw something in europe last night a very a different reversal role i guess um the diaspora turkish and azeri community got together last night uh in leon and went on a lynch mob there was hundreds of them walking through the streets smashing things saying come out you armenian dogs and they just started
Starting point is 00:49:30 attacking like armenian people like this is crazy like this is seriously getting out of hand you know um and i'm not saying oh bad good there is no good and bad in war it's just all bad you know but at the end of the day you have to point out what's going wrong yeah it's no it's no use saying well what about this side what about that side when we're talking about literal genocide and i don't use that word lightly people always use that word and often it's it's like no that was a mass murder or it wasn't even that you know but this it could be you know like we said the government in azerbaijan is like yeah yeah we want to do a genocide like what can you do it's fucked yeah on the the limit of the u.s news consumers imagination
Starting point is 00:50:14 part of me thinks you need to like really put them in the position of the people in the war like one of the best uh ways that i've heard somebody get people to care about a foreign conflict was actually in robert evans's uh it could happen here because he was using like foreign conflicts as a metaphor for what could happen in the united states and i i just wonder like the way death of Stalin just made everyone an English speaker with like mannerisms and affectations that we could all understand culturally I wonder like if that's sort of how we need to be thinking about getting Americans to to care like even though it's it sounds incredibly dumb uh and like it well, if they're, if it's that hard to hold their hand, then like, you know what, maybe just fuck them.
Starting point is 00:51:10 But at the same time, it is like, so, I don't know. It's so easy to relate to if you just get past a certain point. I just think there's a short circuit that happens when they hear a foreign city name, they hear a foreign country name, and Americans, especially modern Americans, have lived their lives completely dissociated from being near any sort of war. Even the wars that America has fought have been distant and only happening on the news. And I think the American brain has just learned to just be like, well, that's something that happens somewhere else. I can short circuit that, turn it off.
Starting point is 00:51:54 But first of all, it's not that far from where we are at this moment politically. And second of all, I think there's a way to get them to understand like this is this would be like if you know u.s states went to war with one another like just like in terms of the size of the state in terms of the population like in terms of the interstate rivalries like uh they're not quite that bad. But we battle them out on stupid, like getting drunk and watching football games. But I do think that there's corollaries that could help make it make sense to people. Yeah, I know what you mean. I don't know enough about America really to think what the comparison would be.
Starting point is 00:52:41 But I know what you mean. And I think that it's not just America as well. I think for a lot of people, I understand, you know, like people working 60, 70 hours a week, like breaking their neck, they haven't got time. You know, you can't expect them to always do it. But like you said, it's like,
Starting point is 00:52:56 and I believe what I think you're saying is, I think if there is like hell going on in the world and you're in a peaceful place, relatively, you should should it's kind of you're obliged to at least know that it's happening i think you know just just to your fellow man your fellow woman right it's like you should know that these people are living through hell and that there's fighting going on but i've found that that's not a good enough way to get people to care for my work um the way i i've always approached it with my like reporting specifically
Starting point is 00:53:25 my documentaries is we spend a lot of time around the people it's not like go to the front line and then fuck off it's like no we you know when i was filming with kurdish militants we live with them we slept with them we ate with them not like that but you know what i'm saying we were with them all the time and you know when you see the documentaries it's like oh right they're just like me but they're just unfortunately in a place where war is on their doorstep you know these are young men and women that would rather be playing playstation or doing sports or going to school but unfortunately they don't have that um that privilege to do so so you know people have this idea like oh balaclava or gun or whatever and it, oh, the big bad guy or it's terrorism or whatever.
Starting point is 00:54:05 Often it's just people that are like, fuck, I'm going to lose. My mom won't have anywhere to live if we lose this land. And I think when you knock it down to that very basic level of how would you feel if your grandparents didn't have a house anymore? It's literally that. I mean, in 2016, there was a, what they call the four-day war. This Nagorno-Karabakh conflict between Armenia and Azerbaijan flared up again. Within four days, Yazidi soldiers beheaded a young Armenian Yazidi man and broke into the home of two old people and cut off their ears, which was like an old kind of brutal thing that used to happen in the 90s, know so it's that like imagine that happening to your grandparents right imagine that happening to
Starting point is 00:54:48 your friend like oh he's gone to war now they cut his head off or whatever you know or the other day or let's even the other side the other day there was a video of some armenian like gun butting a guy to death that they'd captured it's just horrific you know what i'm saying it's like it's so grisly and it's it's it's worth knowing like you know normal people are forced into these situations no one wants to be at war they didn't choose it but it is what it is yeah uh all right let's take a quick break and we'll be right back i've been thinking about you. I want you back in my life.
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Starting point is 00:59:36 Yeah. Claire Poche or Poche. It just feels, again, very 2020. This, it's, you you know public access tv uh she works for the oregon health authority and she's announcing covid statistics in like old-timey like boxcar clown makeup yeah and i'm just for people who were watching the video, but just imagine that the voice saying this is dressed in just a really cool clown outfit. As of today, there have been 38,160 cases of COVID-19 in Oregon, with 390 new cases being reported today. Sadly, we are also reporting three deaths today, bringing the statewide total for COVID-19 related deaths to 608.
Starting point is 01:00:28 Yeah. It's so strange. Everyone has so many questions about this. They're saying why, like at a certain point you'd be like, oh wait, hold on. Claire's about to do the announcement in clown makeup.
Starting point is 01:00:40 Okay. Tag in an intern or fucking anyone else. So it doesn't look like sort of how the u.s is responding to this like in a very like with buffoonery and like this disconnection to reality um and other people were like well you know it's like halloween so i get it many people like doing costume stuff what this video was recorded on october 14th so this is two weeks out so i don't know what's going on. It's just...
Starting point is 01:01:07 She not said what? No. Like when they were asked, the officials from the department were like, it's just a costume. That's it. That's all that was. And no other comment. She's wearing a costume. Yeah, I don't know. It's just so on brand for this year.
Starting point is 01:01:24 That visual. But yeah, just thought I had to bring that up because everything is so surreal. I thought this story was like about a piece of performance art where she was like being like kind of just this is what our government is, is like a complete clown show. But the fact that she's just been like, yeah, no, I don't know. I just thought it was some wild shit to rock in this video.
Starting point is 01:01:51 Yeah, well, I'm a clown, what? Yeah. Wait, what's the problem? Hold on, hold on, hold on. Get past it. This is a costume. Did you hear what I said about COVID infections? It's such a, yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:03 And even then, like, apparently in the full clip, Claire never talks about the costume. It's such a, yeah. And even then, like apparently in the full clip, Claire never talks about the costume. Like never is like, please pardon. You know what I mean? Like you'd feel like if you were aware, you'd be like, I'm terribly sorry about my appearance for this.
Starting point is 01:02:16 So I've just, or you would just be like, hi, camera person, just go to the person who's doing the sign language interpretation. Just focus on that. Maybe just give me a still photo you don't have to show
Starting point is 01:02:28 me animated but it's so weird it is what it is I mean this is legitimately a bit that Will Ferrell did when we were announcing the like joint venture podcast network we launched with him
Starting point is 01:02:43 oh right at the up fronts where like you announce like what your upcoming slate is to advertisers our ceo was like and here's will ferrell to talk about to announce something he just got on and did like a very straightforward like announcement of why he was excited about the podcast space but he had like very strange clown makeup on and never addressed it at all and it was like very funny but amazing bit yeah an amazing bit that this in the context feels yeah it feels contextually a little bit like a little bit of a stranger um use of of that bit um maybe she's trying to bring attention to her state or something.
Starting point is 01:03:26 Right, that would make sense to me. But you think she would tell you by now. Right, yeah. Unless she did it. Or you're really living that shit. She's too busy to travel in the rails with a bindle stick to...
Starting point is 01:03:41 Yeah. Yeah, maybe that was like she was making a big political statement but then her higher-ups were just like shut up and so she hasn't been able to explain it i don't know all right let's talk kim kardashian this is just yet another kind of glimpse into the world of celebrity it's almost like a portal from three years ago these famous very wealthy people are still living in the world that built them uh you know uh she got famous she got extremely wealthy doing shit like this like living a wild luxurious lifestyle giving us tours of her like 20 million dollar home uh that like has sinks without sick basins uh and and before like just a couple years ago that's what we pointed to. We were like, ah, that place looks weird rather than like, you know, just how brutally unequal our culture is, our society is.
Starting point is 01:04:55 But this this was especially tasteless. So Kim, for her 40th, took, I don't know, like 100 of her closest friends uh to a tahitian island probably spent millions of dollars doing this it looked like millions of dollars and then posted about it in detail on social media just loads of pictures of everybody partying together with no masks on except for the waiters who had to wear masks because they were risking their lives to uh you know wait wait on these people but yeah i don't know like she i understand the tone deafness because she built a career doing shit like this yeah but it's weird they they don't have they haven't gotten the note yet which is so odd they still think it's 2019
Starting point is 01:05:46 and like this celebrity worship shit is still you know at the like firing at the same level used to i think the imagine video was the first opportunity for a lot of celebrities to be like okay we need to shut the fuck up hide and not show uh reveal any dimension of how our lives are as like the hyper privileged, you know, luxury life leading people we are. Yet there's still like this thing where it's still like, there's still the flex, like the celebrities still need to do the flex and people don't, they're not reading the room. The flex is dead. The flex is vulgar and the flex has now become violent.
Starting point is 01:06:24 And by being like like i don't know 40 and feeling so humbled there's like i think there's a there's a moment in her like tweet thread where she's like i realize how most people in times like this aren't able to do that so i'm super humbled by my privilege as if that's like humbled by my, I'm humbly reminded of how privileged my life is. Oh, man, leave it alone. You know where she is.
Starting point is 01:06:49 I, um, I read today though. So where they had the, uh, the party, um, it per capita is the third worst place for having COVID.
Starting point is 01:06:58 So it's like, Oh shit. Yeah. So God knows how many people maybe have got infected and spread it. So who knows who after the back of it you know it's just irresponsible on so many levels as well you know even medically i think absolutely there's this i i don't know when they're gonna realize that like the the the balance has completely shifted in terms of like the aesthetic that people find appealing
Starting point is 01:07:25 and those they find just angering, you know? And when you have, when we're living in a country, especially the United States where the federal government has completely turned its back on working people and those who are unemployed or even only certain municipalities are like, okay, maybe we shouldn't evict people in a time where many people aren't able to work that to then flaunt this like private jet bullshit where like everyone's being like essentially just distills to we're so rich we can fucking erase everything that's happening in your poor people life existence and keep our shit going because guess what the show don't stop for a hoe uh we keep it going and like these people wear we'll wear masks because they're working people and god forbid we spend all this money to to act
Starting point is 01:08:10 like nothing's going on that we get sick it's just really i feel like the smart if you're smart if you're a celebrity because i know so many a-list celebrities listen to this podcast uh yeah just fucking hide because people are people's attitudes are changing very rapidly to the like this have and have nots culture we have and most people are not being like it would be sick if i had that most people were like i'm gonna fucking eat you yeah yeah yeah do you know what i noticed as well i think like i think you've really hit the nail on the head there um but but what i noticed especially amongst friends it went from realizing have and have not is actually us versus them you know i mean and i don't think that's necessarily a bad thing because
Starting point is 01:08:50 if you can use it to be like let's have a more just society let's educate people on there is another way or we can be fairer we don't have to be like hyper capitalist celebrity lunatics like i think this might be a good thing where people stop trying to obtain that wealth and celebrity maybe not but i think there's certainly people who have shot me have been like fuck like kardashian or fuck whoever whereas before i wouldn't have thought they'd said that so but no i agree with you completely man it's it's such a fucking death moment right when did when did she become famous like when did their family it was like during the 2010s like that's when because if you mean the sex tape well first she was paris hilton's she was paris
Starting point is 01:09:31 hilton's bff and she was getting in the background with a lot of club shots when paris was going to the party and they were like who is paris's new friend with the dark hair uh and they're like that's robert kardashian oj's lawyer's daughter kim and then the sex tape got her like her own lane and then from there you know one thing just led to another boom boom boom because for a while i think it was we were living at a point like in american culture where it was this easy to just dismiss all the ills of the of the country to just be like nah yeah maybe i were i'm being underpaid and overworked, but I go on, I pop on E and I escape to my world where, oh my God, Scott Disick is a mess and Mason is so cute.
Starting point is 01:10:13 And now when, as things just become more vivid about like how, what the actual, the sickness that exists in our country, especially with like the worship of material goods and items that you look at this and you're like this offers me no comfort anymore this actually is angering and to your point jake like yeah like it's hopefully will erode this like false class solidarity a lot of people have with celebrities by being like we'll leave her alone where now people are like the the replies to kim kardashian's that those tweets i think say it all where people are like hey asshole like i haven't seen my family in months because my they're elderly and i also can't afford to go there because i have no job but yeah do you on your fucking island um yeah i feel like when
Starting point is 01:10:56 we look back years from now like this period from like when paris Hilton became famous to 2020 will be the period that like looks very strange you know like that doesn't make because like in the 90s and 80s like I always talk about this like concept of like selling out being a thing that people thought was a bad thing and then like it just went away like people just you know like kurt cobain was like mortified that he was wealthy uh and like i think yeah i just think there's a returning awareness like we're waking up from this dream where it was just pure aspirational bullshit and now it's uh now it's back to reality like yeah in the early 90s people were like yeah you can sell out you selling out is a bad thing like that's that's not cool well
Starting point is 01:11:55 yeah i think we've just we've reached the end of the drug trip of like worshiping these status symbols you know right because we we completely burnt it out to the point where now it's like you see it that's all vaporware like it's not real it's just it was some shit to comfort you uh about maybe what your own future is and i think as more people get with their reality like man i'm not gonna be some fucking influencer driving around 900 lamborghinis like that's fucking stupid like i would just like to own a little piece of land and have my kids get educated and not have to worry about like my health care. Because right now I live in a country where I could be killed by the police, have no health insurance, and people are dragged out of their homes because they're from some other place.
Starting point is 01:12:34 Like that's what's becoming very real to a lot of people. So, yeah, I mean, you know, down with the Kardashian bullshit, you know, and we'll see what replaces it. kardashian bullshit you know and we'll see we'll see what replaces it something else that i just want to mention quickly is that i've noticed in my country in britain at least like class is becoming more recognized again you know when i was a kid class was a very big issue it wasn't about like you know it's like if you're a class whatever you're all together now a good thing that the kind of you know like the kind of woke celebrity stuff i know a lot of people are like fuck them like you know what i mean like you can't say that because you're so rich you don't know what it's like with me you know tim and yusef and whoever else you know so in my country i've noticed which
Starting point is 01:13:14 i think is a good thing you know like solidarity with each other like hey we're both fucking poor we don't need to hate each other it's them who are lying you know and i think i think that can only be a good thing personally so long as it's you know constructive right and i think yeah because for for all the people who are like man you know why you know why our situation's so bad in whatever ex-american city and they go like because of the immigrants or whatever i'm sure at a certain point they look around i'm like well where are the immigrants that have all that money they took from you because i'm sure comparatively you're doing much better than them so please explain where that money went i will actually i will challenge you to a thought experiment and look at how your bosses live and look at how the people
Starting point is 01:13:54 above them live because they might that might be where your money's going not these other downtrodden people that your bosses have very uh skillfully convinced you is the root cause of your lack of opportunity when the whole time it was them. And I think maybe that's what people are starting to see with the Kardashians. It was like, it was them. That's, yeah, fuck this. Yeah. And I mean, this has been the period of, you know, in addition to buying into that world of celebrity and like, yeah, we us and the woke celebrities are on the same side. of celebrity and like yeah we us and the woke celebrities are on the same side fox news has like given the alternate like you're saying miles the the immigrants took our jobs explanation and
Starting point is 01:14:33 hopefully we're coming to an end of that where like people aren't coming up with these like bullshit polarization ideas where we're just buying into uh well i'm i'm for the celebrities and you're for sean hannity and it's like no they're the same side and they can go fuck themselves yeah um jake it's been great having you man um yeah man thank you so much where can people find you follow you hear you all that good stuff um normally on twitter at jake underscore hanrahan that's my surname's annoying it's h-a-n-r-a-h-a-n um on my website jakehanrahan.com you'll see all my work there nice and uh is there a tweet or some other work of social media you've been enjoying yeah no yeah today i saw my friend posted it uh you know kowloon the walled city
Starting point is 01:15:25 um i think it was in hong kong like years ago they just kept building up and up and up and it was like a slum but it was like up you know and it was so cool and then someone found some rare photos and was just like tweeting a thread of that out today and it's just amazing it's knocked down now but uh yeah really cool man nice uh miles where can people find you what's the tweet you've been enjoying uh you can find me on twitter and instagram at miles of gray and also uh my other podcast 420 day fiance where i escape reality by diving into reality television uh as one is want to do uh okay now let's see a tweet that i like um let's go with this one from past guest Tamara Yahia at Dances with Tamas. She tweets,
Starting point is 01:16:09 My sister's watching the newsroom and thinks Jeff Daniels is Dave Coulier. She said, good for him. It's nice to see him doing a dramatic role. No one is correcting her. All right. Some tweets I've been enjoying uh uh there's there's one that's a visual thing that people can just find on my feed because I retweeted it from Rob Delaney it's just a video where he said this is insanely impressive it's a physical stunt that uh is very impressive people should should check it out Paula vegan
Starting point is 01:16:46 Alan former guest tweeted legends were just the loudest men at the time and then Patrick Monahan tweeted they call me mr. says thanks multiple times in the same email before signing off thanks before you send you're like fuck I got to get rid of a couple of these things. If I do have time to reread an email before I send it, yeah, it's usually to make it less profusely. Like, yes, sir. Here you go, sir. Thank you. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:17:18 Thank you. We appreciate it. Thank you for reading this. Have a good day. It's always a thanks sandwich. The first word is thanks and the last word is thanks. Thanks. And thanks for that.
Starting point is 01:17:28 Thanks again, Jack. Thanks. You ever send like a double LOL? Escalating exclamation points. Yeah, double LOL. Double LOL is just, ah. So many times, like, ah. There's times when I'm conflicted about using an exclamation point.
Starting point is 01:17:45 I'm like, do I really mean to be this excited about it? Or should I be real with them and use a period so they know where I'm at emotionally with this? Thanks. As opposed to, thanks. Yeah. Yeah. Totally different. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:17:59 But people do need to check out that Rob Delaney thing because it's the most I've been laughing at a tweet probably in months. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, DailyZeitgeist.com where we post our episodes and our foot
Starting point is 01:18:19 notes. Foot notes. Where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode as well as the song we ride out on miles what are we riding out on today we're gonna go out on a track by slow tie featuring james blake and mount kimby it's called feel away no he's from where i'm from slow ties from where i'm from oh yeah i mean look i love uk music i love all music so you know i've been on a i've been on a sort of uh drill kick recently as well uh but yeah this is this track's like it's got it all you got james blake you got slow tie
Starting point is 01:18:50 you got that mount can be feeling uh so this is called feel away because i think yeah we're just trying to feel away whatever we're feeling so good title for in a good time feel it away all right the daily zeitgeist is a production of iheart radio for more podcasts from iheart radio visit the iheartartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. That is going to do it for this morning. We'll be back this afternoon to tell you what's trending, and we will talk to y'all then.
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