The Daily Zeitgeist - Undercover Boss Ben Affleck, Tenants’ Rights Organizer Elon Musk? 01.17.23

Episode Date: January 17, 2023

In episode 1402, Jack and Miles are joined by writer, comedian, and co-host of The Bechdel Cast, Caitlin Durante, to discuss… What DeSantis and the GOP Get Wrong About the Culture Warzzz, The Rick a...nd Morty Guy Was Arrested For Domestic Assault... 2 Years Ago, Twitter Employees In Singapore Were Thrown Out Because Elon Stopped Paying Rent, Ben Affleck Is Apparently Working For Dunkin’ and more! What DeSantis and the GOP Get Wrong About the Culture Warzzz The Rick and Morty Guy Was Arrested For Domestic Assault... 2 Years Ago Twitter Employees In Singapore Were Thrown Out Because Elon Stopped Paying Rent Twitter Employees Escorted Out of Singapore Office Twitter sued for $136,000 in overdue rent at San Francisco office as Musk's wealth shrinks What’s Gone at Twitter? A Data Center, Janitors, Some Toilet Paper. Ben Affleck Is Apparently Working For Dunkin’ Why Were Ben Affleck and J. Lo at Dunkin Donuts? WELCOME TO DUNKIN'... Can I Take Your Order??? How Ben Affleck became an accidental Dunkin' influencer LISTEN: Wildfire by SHYGIRLSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:26 podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts hello the internet and welcome to season 271 episode one of the production of iheart radio this is a podcast where we take a deep dive into america's shared consciousness it's t Tuesday, January 17th, 2023. Oh man, that's cool. What's up? Just that day. I'm stalling because I... I thought you just saw something problematic on January 17th. It's International Mentoring Day, National Classy Day.
Starting point is 00:02:02 For some reason, the image for National Classy Day is of the late Betty White. National Bootleggers Day and National Hot Butter Rum Day. Hot butter and rum? That's just rum and butter? I always know that. I've heard the term. But that's just what? Rum, butter, and hot water or cider?
Starting point is 00:02:23 I do not need to do all that for an excuse to i feel like so many of the drinks back in the day were like but this one's healthy it's like just an excuse to drink rum in the morning or something this one has clarified milk in it you're like what have you ever seen that i had one like last year. It's good for your proteins. Oh, yeah. No, clarified milk punch is a real thing. Clarified milk, just like when the milk curdles and separates, you pull the clear part out. There's like a process to clarify the milk. It's kind of wild.
Starting point is 00:02:56 Like, it's a very in-depth. They did a milk clear before Pepsi did Pepsi? Crystal Pepsi? They did a crystal milk? In a way, crystal Clear Pepsi was biting off the Clarified Milk Punch trying to come up yesteryear. Well, my name is Jack O'Brien,
Starting point is 00:03:12 a.k.a. Potatoes O'Brien, a.k.a. Taters O'Bing Bung, and I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray! I said don't speak, his race is what you're saying. So please stop
Starting point is 00:03:27 white-splaining. Don't tell me you're diverse. Don't speak. It's racist what you're saying. And your food's unseasoned. Don't tell me you're diverse. Okay, uh, thank you so much
Starting point is 00:03:44 Salvador Jolly to that don't speak. Salvador Jolly killing it as of late. You know, people, there's so much energy in this Discord with these listeners. You know what I mean? That I plan to join soon. Okay. We're waiting. It's okay, though.
Starting point is 00:03:59 It's in the plans. Good, good, good. Miles, enough fucking around. We're thrilled to be joined in our third seat by one of the great TDZ guests, a very talented writer, stand-up comedian, podcast host of, I don't know, the Bechdel cast. Heard of it. Which takes down the patriarchy one movie at a time.
Starting point is 00:04:17 Also happens to have a master's degree in film. Yep. And the most anagrammable name in the English language. So depending on whether you've been given their name in an assortment of Scrabble tiles, you may know her as Latin dancer UTI, nine-tit Dracula. But in our hearts, she will always be the Durantula. Caitlin Durante! Oh, what an introduction that I have to ruin by saying I do not have a new anagram this time.
Starting point is 00:04:49 Well, we can just get you a Durantula. Yeah, sure. What do you think of the Durantula? So that was a nickname that everybody wanted to give to the NBA player Kevin Durant. And he was just like, no thanks. Oh, I thought that that name stuck. I mean, people say it, he he was like i'd rather not if you'd you know why because he's like caitlin is a much better much better fit i don't even
Starting point is 00:05:14 have a fucking associate's degree in watching tv how am i gonna step to that yes and i i give off such spider-like vibes what are what are those uh arachnid vibes you give off i'm trying to i'm trying to pinpoint it um prickly silence prickly exterior prickly interior everything in my house is covered in cobwebs so many eyes so many eyes so many limbs yeah just up in a corner just chilling in the top corner of the room just scaring people to the corner yeah and when you start moving i do get goose flesh just like the way there's something uncanny about the way you move that gives me uh goosebumps it's like a video that's called that track i like the way you move but it's just a highlight tape of spiders moving
Starting point is 00:06:04 yeah i don't know That's just for us. You don't like spiders? Wow, you had a reaction right there. I fuck with spiders. I just pictured a bunch of spiders moving like this. Pass. Spiders are
Starting point is 00:06:19 the coolest thing to re-remember exist and watch a nature documentary on and like, you know, like, or like, I guess another way to put that would be get high and watch a nature documentary about, but like just hitting your brain all over again.
Starting point is 00:06:38 And it's like, wow, it's so weird that these, like if, if they didn't exist like a it would take the greatest mind in horror film to to invent conceive it. So they're like such great hunters. Why do they have so many eyes? What?
Starting point is 00:06:56 So many legs. But yeah, they're so good at killing things. They're like pound for pound the best at killing things in on the planet. And they're also the scariest looking thing. I love and i embrace i love that for them i love that for them it's just there is there is a limit some some are too freaky and you got to be like i'm sorry you can't be in here others i'm like let it rock such as tarantulas because little spiders are creepy enough then you have ones that are the size of your hand. Did you know kids that had pet tarantulas?
Starting point is 00:07:28 I thought that was like a specific kind of kid. Like I knew two kids that were like tarantula havers and they were both boy scouts and like one joined the military and the other almost joined the military. Right. Yeah. I only knew
Starting point is 00:07:44 my man Buzz from Home Alone. Home Alone, yeah. Piece of shit in real life, but... Daniel Stern, the scene where he has a tarantula put on his face, you could not pay me any amount of money.
Starting point is 00:07:59 Like, he's the best actor in Hollywood for... When his eyes... He should have won the Oscar. Yeah. It's the eyes crossing that really gets for me. I'm like, he is living in that one. He's never been the same since.
Starting point is 00:08:12 I wonder if like anyone who went in to like read or, or audition for that role, they were like, okay, just so you know, you, you're going to have a tarantula put on your face. And they like,
Starting point is 00:08:21 that's how they evaluated. Right. Right. Or if they're just like, you're hired. And also, by the way, a tarantula is going on your face and they like that's how they evaluated right right right or if they're just like you're hired and also by the way a tarantula is going on your face right and then he had to like come to terms with that role was originally cast as daniel day lewis then it went to deniro then it went to pacino and they all said no to the tarantula so that's how they ended up with stern yeah bottom of the list i mean i wonder if that's something you have to be up front with with
Starting point is 00:08:44 certain people they're like look i'm cool with full frontal nudity or whatever, but I don't fuck with spiders. It's in your contract. I do not do spiders. I do not do spiders. Don't even fucking send me on a spider audition. I don't care how much money they make. better moment first we're going to tell our listeners a couple of the things we're talking about today we're going to talk about ron desantis and just the latest on i think after he was the one big part the the the highlight of the non-existent red wave the midterms everyone was like this is the future of the republican party because he gets the culture war right he does it right this guy so we're gonna just look look at that but check the record on that one we are going to check the record on the rick and morty guy justin roiland who is a predator and a horrible person and
Starting point is 00:09:40 we've known that for a couple years but they're like just now reporting it it seems like so we'll talk about that we'll talk about what's going on at the twitter office in singapore oh no we're going to talk about ben affleck working for dunkin donuts like at the drive-thru we'll talk about that plenty more but first caitlin we do like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history? I just Googled mythological sea creatures, specifically sea creatures. Question mark. Three question marks. Please don't be real. Please don't be real.
Starting point is 00:10:20 We already have spiders. I can't deal with krakens. No. We already have spiders. I can't deal with krakens. Because I'm writing a pilot. Wow. So brave. Got to. So cool of me to do. And it's a fantasy show because they're all the rage right now. right now and i realized i know a bunch of mythological land creatures but i was like what about the sea ones right you got mermaids okay hold on let me try and think okay mermaid i'm trying to even think but also like mermaids are like half human so i don't even know if i would count that like a kraken i think is the only thing i could crack and I got like, I know there's like the sea serpent that is like the,
Starting point is 00:11:08 um, right. It was basically an or fish. They saw an or fish and we're like, that's gotta be a fucking monster. Right. Basically correct. But yeah,
Starting point is 00:11:17 this is the episode where I just repeatedly tell you that I believe in monsters and then I'm blown away by nature documentaries wait so what are the what are the other ones yeah because i'm i'm i too would have to google this well sirens yes but don't sirens kind of take on a human form right or do they yeah right um so i i wanted specifically like very animal like ones and there was a small list i didn't recognize any of the names except for the kraken and then i didn't look into it further because i decided wait a minute this is fantasy i can make my own shit yeah seriously so then i just invented a bunch of mythological sea creatures man imagine like a transmedium spider.
Starting point is 00:12:07 No, don't even put that out there. Sea spiders, those exist, don't they? No, but that can be like, yo, I could get down here. I can get down on land. It doesn't matter. I don't have to be in one place. Like a crab? Sea spider. Do not recommend.
Starting point is 00:12:20 They look like spiders that have been dead for a long time. Oh, like they're kind of like. They're kind of like wormy. Ew. No. Nah, nah. Spiders with wings, I think, is what. So are you thinking up any cool stuff?
Starting point is 00:12:34 Yeah. It turns out it's not that important to the show. I was just being so thorough. Hell, you got a world built. That's part of it. Right. Yeah. But I did invent several land critters.
Starting point is 00:12:48 Okay, cool. And you'll just have to watch my upcoming show. I will. That's definitely going to be made and go on for eight seasons at least. At least. So be on the lookout. But you got to catch the first one because that's, yeah, there is a lot of lore to these creatures. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:06 If you jump in episode two, you might as well just stop. Don't bother. It's dense. Scariest sea animals for me, since you just asked. You ever seen one of these Japanese spider crabs that are... Jack's top monsters number five you ever seen one of these things what is it
Starting point is 00:13:28 spider crabs the size of a small SUV that shit is wild also coconut crabs again sci-fi monsters exist on reddit I saw a clip of a hermit crab that had used an old abandoned doll's head as its shell.
Starting point is 00:13:46 And it was the freakiest fucking picture. Yeah. Like this little doll's head going like. I am seeing a photo of an adult man holding a Japanese spider crab and it's enormous. It's too big, right? The legs are like six feet long at a minimum fully extended it's like victor wimbing yama length on these sons of bitches but is that a basketball player i only know about he is tarantula yeah this is actually helpful because he's going
Starting point is 00:14:20 to be like the most famous person on the planet in three years but he's currently 17 and a french basketball player who is like seven foot five and very good all right what is something you think is overrated caitlin i think that almost every oscar buzz movie of this season is overrated i did not care for all the things that are getting awards buzz your fablemans i didn't think it was that good yeah i babylon wasn't a fan oh babylon thank you sorry about it yeah i did not like Babylon. Babylon hurt me. It was painful. It was painful. You got Tar. I mean, a lot of these things are movies that I recognize as well-crafted pieces of cinema,
Starting point is 00:15:18 but I guess they just weren't for me. I agree with Tar, although I feel like i need to watch tar tar is the only one that i was like i need to watch that again because i i i didn't i just felt kind of confused by it so i i need to watch it uh but i i stupid that is not true top gun maverick people it was all the rage i was i was somewhat underwhelmed by it elvis i thought was frankly a turd did you watch that with us did you come no i know i wasn't able to oh yeah you couldn't come to that that's wow that was fun but holy shit what a nightmare avatar i thought was clunky wow but you were an avatar you're you're an avatar head or no jamie avatar head it's jamie more so than me but i generally tweeting about the first
Starting point is 00:16:16 one yeah despite its many problems and if you want to hear about mine and jamie's opinions on them as well as our guest on that episode of the bechdel cast ali naughty uh you can go over and check that out but we don't actually acknowledge other podcasts on this yeah i'm so sorry i'm so sorry we'll not allow it what's a podcast yes yeah you wouldn't understand then you've got uh oh even like Banshees of Ed Sheeran, which I don't think that's what it's called. Banshees of Ed Sheeran. Ed Sheeran. It won a bunch of Golden Globes recently.
Starting point is 00:16:54 And while I liked it, and it's probably my favorite of this list of buzzy movies, I don't, I would not put it as best picture. I think the one exception, or there's a handful of exceptions. Everything Everywhere All at Once is probably the best movie that came out last year, or at least my favorite. And that should have gotten more recognition. Wait, that movie was your favorite movie of the year? Let me tell you why Everything Everywhere All at Once isn't that great. I was talking about people who have those takes where they can't just be like yeah man that was a fuck that was the best thing i saw i mean not that everyone has to conform to that opinion but you see people battle like they're just embrace of it to differentiate
Starting point is 00:17:36 but yeah yeah people love to be contrarian and so do i yeah i get it, you don't that much. I try. That was me being contrarian to you. Oh, funny. Got him. Got your ass. Just admit real quick that I got your ass and then we can move on. You got my ass. Ever since his kid pantsed him at the grocery store
Starting point is 00:18:02 he's been trying to reclaim his dominance. Can we just admit it and get it over with? Get it over with. Okay. Is this leading up to an underrated that we're... It is. Okay. Drum roll, please.
Starting point is 00:18:16 Unless you have other awards favorites that... No, not really. Okay, so those are the main ones. Everything Everywhere All At Once, good, but everything else kind of overrated. What is something that you think is underrated, Caitlin? Okay, it's another movie. Puss in Boots, The Last Wish. I heard it was really intense.
Starting point is 00:18:38 Rocks. And every person I say that to, they're like, really, are you sure about that? And I'm like i'm i have a master's degree in screenwriting yeah yeah i'm sure it's well done it is well done did you see it at least i saw the first 45 minutes and it became too scary for my both my four-year-old and six-year-old when when goldilocks and the three bears get involved and they are just, their presence in the movie is like Anton Chigurh in No Country. It's just like they are a force of nature that is coming.
Starting point is 00:19:12 And I think it stressed my kids out a little too much. It is a little bit more adult than your average children's family movie. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. But it's, so it exists in the Shrek universe. It does. It's very Shrekian.
Starting point is 00:19:29 You are a noted fan. Yeah, Shrekian. And yeah, I mean, the animation style is very similar to the animation in Spider-Man Into the Spider-Verse, which is one of my favorite movies of all time. So it's visually really cool the story is just like tight and solid and it has good themes and messaging and the characters are fun and and it's puss in boots what can i say my my kids did it left an impression i'll say that because we've had the conversation where they make me tell them all of the ways he died. It's a lot about mortality. So he is on his the premises.
Starting point is 00:20:12 He is on his ninth final life miles. And so he has to go to a retirement home and like just like back away because he can't be a cat of adventure when he only has one one life left to live. But they do a quick quick very fun run through of all the ways he's died and that blew my kids fucking minds man they were and then they kept being like okay so what was the third way puss in boots what was the fifth and like they were disappointed that i didn't like have this committed to memory immediately so am I Jack do you have it you got it
Starting point is 00:20:49 one of the ways he died was at the running of the bulls and then I had to explain to them like why people do that and then they were that there's no good explanation for that but you've even been to España so you couldn't even you couldn't even leave like let me tell you a little bit about yeah i guess i still couldn't yeah they didn't connect with them
Starting point is 00:21:10 yeah because some people you know they want to feel alive by almost being dead right they're like what what do you mean anyways all right well i'm glad to know that that has entered the canon with you know i'm not i'm not saying it's on the level of paddington 2 or you know some of the shrek movies but it's history will determine that but it is good i always love a good caitlin durant a like this movie that's being slept on and thought of as a non-serious children's movie is actually needs its own criterion collection. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. All right. Let's take a quick break. We'll be right back.
Starting point is 00:21:58 I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and LA-based Shekinah Church, an alleged cult that has impacted members for over two decades. Jessica and I will delve into the hidden truths between high control groups and interview dancers, church members, and others whose lives and careers have been impacted, just like mine.
Starting point is 00:22:33 Through powerful, in-depth interviews with former members and new, chilling firsthand accounts, the series will illuminate untold and extremely necessary perspectives. Forgive Me For I Have Followed will be more than an exploration. It's a vital revelation aimed at ensuring these types of abuses never happen again. Listen to Forgive Me For I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:22:58 I've been thinking about you. I want you back in my life. It's too late for that. I have a proposal for you. Come up here back in my life. It's too late for that. I have a proposal for you. Come up here and document my project. All you need to do is record everything like you always do. One session, 24 hours. BPM 110, 120. She's terrified. Should we wake her up? Absolutely not. What was that? You didn't figure it out?
Starting point is 00:23:26 I think I need to hear you say it. That was live audio of a woman's nightmare. This machine is approved and everything? You're allowed to be doing this? We passed the review board a year ago. We're not hurting people. There's nothing dangerous about what you're doing. They're just dreams.
Starting point is 00:23:46 Dream Sequence is a new horror thriller from Blumhouse Television, iHeartRadio, and Realm. Listen to Dream Sequence on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. How do you feel about biscuits? Hi, I'm Akilah Hughes, and I'm so excited about my new podcast, Rebel Spirit, where I head back to my hometown in Kentucky and try to convince my high school to change their racist mascot, the Rebels, into something everyone in the South loves, the Biscuits. I was a lady rebel. Like, what does that even mean? The Boone County Rebels will stay the Boone County Rebels with the image of the Biscuits. It's right here in black and white in print. A lion. with the image of... It's right here in black and white in print.
Starting point is 00:24:23 A lion. An individual that came to the school saying that God sent him to talk to me about the mascot switch. As a leader, you choose hills that you want to die on. Why would we want to be the losing team? I'd just take all the other stuff out of it. Segregation academies.
Starting point is 00:24:40 When civil rights said that we need to integrate public schools, these charter schools were exempt from that. Bigger than a flag or mascot. You have to be ready for serious backlash. Listen to Rebel Spirit on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back so one of the big stories in the mainstream media the big assumptions that everybody's going with that i'm sure is probably wrong in some ways that like trump's over and desantis seems to be their chosen successor the man who's going to lead the conservative movement going forward. Look how good he did in last election.
Starting point is 00:25:26 And he own us in culture war. Yeah. The end. That's it. He knows how to win the culture wars. He knows how to own the libs. And that's, that's exactly why people vote for him because they don't care about what
Starting point is 00:25:41 their actual lived experiences. They just want him to make libs. Scola. No. So, you know, a lot of it, again, because they don't care about what their actual lived experience is. They just want him to make libs go like, no. So, you know, a lot of it, again, they say it's this strength of picking battles of the culture war to engage in. And, you know, the fact that he goes after public education for being too woke or that his policies are meant to dehumanize like LGBTQ people is like the reason for him doing so well in the state. And that further resonates with the country because he's doing the culture war right is kind of the thinking like and that can extend to everywhere because this gets everybody going.
Starting point is 00:26:15 We've seen it in these town hall meetings and things like that. So, yeah, a few things. Yes, he did well, but that isn't because he decided to be like a vile human. If you look at some of the down ballot races, the message that kids are being groomed to like take a dump in a sandbox isn't like a winner at all. And like in reality, you know, when you look at certain areas like there's a school board election result that showed just how unpopular it was to ban books and bullying gay and transgender kids in Polk County, where he won almost 65 percent of the vote, like which was five points better than in the state. But if you when you look down in that county for Republican school board candidates, including one of DeSantis is chosen, they collectively took less than 47% of the vote against their Democrat and nonpartisan opponents. So that's like, like, you're starting to see like,
Starting point is 00:27:02 it's not quite moving the needle in this gigantic way. And then in November, huge, like, you're starting to see, like, it's not quite moving the needle in this gigantic way. And then in November, huge, like, you know, with a very Republican electorate, they voted down this, like, pro-censorship, dark money-backed Republican school board candidate with 56% supporting her opponent, who was a public school advocate. So people were like, oh, this person who's going all in on it, were like, yeah, maybe the person who's like, we need, like, properly funded schools so, like, the buildings aren't were like, oh, this person who's going all in on it or like, yeah, maybe the person who's like, we need like properly funded schools.
Starting point is 00:27:28 So like the buildings aren't like in ill condition, you know, like that kind of stuff seem to work more even with a heavily Republican area. And I don't want your I don't want buildings to fall down on you and your children is. Fuck you. Bring it down on you and your children is fucking whoa fuck you what bring it down on me now what bury me alive i will survive and you know like you look at even around this like the country right in west virginia they voted down a constitutional amendment that like they're like these republicans are like look give us to like you know give us more power to enact all kinds of draconian school policies like that there's like a bill to be like let the legislature just run wild with it they were like nah and then other states which are definitely
Starting point is 00:28:17 more blue like there were many there were much bigger increases to school funding that people were embracing so not to say that these kinds of candidates weren't winning, but it's not like DeSantis' popularity isn't that he's found this magic bullet of an argument or like propellant for his campaign, you know, that's going to take it there. Because at the end of the day, there are a lot of people who aren't quite like living in the same existence as maybe the people who are open mouth taking in tucker carlson propaganda every night and it should be said though too like millions and millions of dollars have been spent like on mess like this kind of messaging and to back these candidates and again that like this crt groomer gospel thing as part of their ideology was didn't have quite the impact i
Starting point is 00:29:03 think many people thought that that it would. And remember just last week we covered a story. I forget if it was on trends of the regular episode that people like political analysts were saying that Biden is pivoting to the middle and their big takeaway or like one of the big bullet points for why he needs to pivot to the middle is that voters in the midterms last year rejected the extremes and then they listed a bunch of right wing extreme talking points and like positions that they rejected and nothing nothing from the left that was rejected but it's just it got like it it's just so so weird how you know and anything like progressive things like funding public schools that seem very
Starting point is 00:29:54 just get fucking like funding schools you know what i mean yeah funding schools yeah that's what are you a communist more money for a teacher to teach your kid to read you fucking weirdo like like very popular and immediately just gets shut down and you know erased in favor of you know everybody wants to fire the teachers and you know that just the loudest craziest talking right-wing talking point that they can find. Yeah. I mean, I think, you know, the true power or the thing that people are actually seeing isn't that because he's like the culture war goat. There's like a lot about his campaign and the infrastructure in in Florida that has massively helped him.
Starting point is 00:30:39 Like in his first run for governor, they had a gigantic voter registration drive that absolutely just blew Democrats. There's like 300,000 more Republicans now. They found a way to turn as many Republicans out in Florida. And on top of that, Democrats have basically seen the writing on the wall and they're like, all right, so this is an L. Let's just take our things and go. There's no point in doing anything here. So not to say that they've given up, but the amount of energy going into registering more Republicans is a huge reason why like DeSantis also has an advantage, not specifically just to say people are turning out because they hate critical race theory. It's like they have a numerical advantage. And at the end of the day, some of these policies aren't quite
Starting point is 00:31:19 resonating in the same way. So this is just this is just like education, right? The Republicans in the House are now like wanting to go after abortion again, even though it was very clear that this was a losing proposition. Like there's there's these lessons aren't quite connecting for everybody that it's like, OK, let's see if we can kind of start chumming those waters again to see what what will be good there. And I think this is something that Democrats need to pay attention to, like not getting necessarily bogged down in these culture war battles. Just be proactive and speak to what Americans are actually worried about. Like, I think most parents aren't being like, are there sandboxes and are people being told about slavery? Yeah, I'm sorry. Litter boxes. Yeah, whatever it is. And like more so, are the schools well funded? And can my kid get a decent education? And is it a relatively safe place? Those seem to rank much higher for parents, even in polling, than things like parental
Starting point is 00:32:19 choice to like stop, like to keep this kind of indoctrination out of our schools. And it's the same way that like, that's what, you know, that's a very easy thing to be saying as a platform policy for Democrats to be like, yeah, schools more funded. You get a better education. So you have, you know, a decent shot at surviving in this fucked up system. And also things like saying, you know, reproductive rights are human rights. Those are winners. saying, you know, reproductive rights are human rights. Those are winners. So to think that like, oh, God, what do we do? Just keep, you know, focus on what a regular person cares about,
Starting point is 00:32:57 not sort of getting completely caught up in like the Tucker Carlson commentary of it all, which, again, sways a lot of like the donor and elected official class. But there's a lot of polling analysis of like how much those concerns actually go down to like the working class voters in each party he also seems to be like in the way that trump is singularly able to do what trump does like he seems to be able to like i i think there's a thing that happens in political journalism where they assume that some one thing that works for one person is going to work repeatedly for and i think it happens probably even more so in the world of like political strategist and that that whole massive industry that could just as well disappear tomorrow and the world would be a better place.
Starting point is 00:33:48 But the this idea that like, well, the people are learning from DeSantis and that everybody's going to do that. Because he is somebody who is, you know, has all these educational, like, bona fides and then pretends to believe all the crazy shit. And then with a lot of these other politicians, the fact that the thing they're saying is objectively, like, suggests that they are unstable. And that is a big turnoff for people so like i i don't know i feel like he's able to pull it off better than other people because he's like has there there's something about him that is like boring but then yeah he's also able to like make it sound like it's coming from a a place that's grounded and he's a lot like i don't know he doesn't believe it he's just opportunistically pretending that he believes this bullshit but i i don't know that always gets erased from it like that that this is maybe he's just like a singular person who's able
Starting point is 00:34:58 to project the very specific thing that is needed for these positions that are objectively very scary because they're crazy and hateful. Like people are able to get around that with him and almost nobody else, him and Trump, essentially. It makes sense to me that he's able to do this and nobody else is because he's an individual person who has a good political campaign behind him and a lot of money and shit. Yeah, very well-funded. Yeah, extremely well-funded, extremely careful, and he is smart and shrewd about how he does it. So that's another thing that I feel like gets removed from it. And it's just the mainstream media's interest is to create as much news as possible
Starting point is 00:35:47 around this stuff and the information i think is a lot simpler than they want it to be in the long run which is like like you said people just want the thing that's going to be best for them and their family and you know they will only support these positions that suggest that they are like that suggest just a hateful kind of chaotic crazy world if the person is either you know projecting a sense of competency beyond what you get from your mtgs or whatever or if they are like a cult of personality like trump otherwise it's just not going to work like if you just like those are two somewhat simple ideas that i i think people aren't going to say on cnn because it doesn't allow you to just like scream and also that there's something fun and enraging and
Starting point is 00:36:47 exciting about this idea that like everyone around you is crazy half the country's crazy and they all want you to die and it's like yeah i think like to your point he's he's doing it really well because like the calm that he projects and also he's at a position that's high enough that makes the the threats that he makes like tangible you know you can only do so much screaming as a candidate you're like oh just wait till i do this but ron desantis can't be like here's the stop woke act here's this here's that here's that and people are like oh my gosh and not to mention too like when those storms hit florida he was very quick to work with Joe Biden to like get things going back again. So the people who live in the state, they're probably responding more to like, man, all right, the storm came through.
Starting point is 00:37:34 We're starting to see cleanup. People are getting compensated for like the work they did. Like this feels like it's functioning. But I think like his appeal is that like Trump, he he occupies a position legislatively that allows him to like really make his threats tangible. And I think that's what makes him the most like appealing for a lot of these other people across the country because they're like, oh, this guy talks the talk and he's legislating that way. But I think, again, with the analysis, there's a lot to say that he's in a state that's becoming have like becoming becoming red and he has a huge infrastructure advantage and he's got a state that's becoming red, and he has a huge infrastructure advantage, and he's got a lot of money. Those things also help a lot to keep you up in the polls and keep you winning. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:15 He's being supported by the powers that be in the Republican Party, like behind the scenes in a way that it makes sense to me that he's going to appear to have a lot of things break his way in the coming years and months so and and has already been in that position for a while now because i think they've given up on the chaos of what what it's like to have trump at the head of that party i mean they don't learn so we'll see we could see like a tripling down like we've never seen before uh but all that to say there's a lot of room for people to make arguments that are just appealing to normal people's needs and concerns. since like in in 100 years but like that didn't really get played up that much i feel like the media imprint of the storm was right not not that like it wasn't that big a deal and i feel like
Starting point is 00:39:14 i don't know why that was the case like that that's always made me like wonder like are they is the mainstream media just sort of kind of on board like that that would have been an inconvenient fact for for desantis you know somebody who's like a climate denier but i think that's where they don't i mean we've seen the media is like just woefully unprepared to actually discuss climate change as it relates to things and connect the dots like we're getting more unprepared to connect the dots on that as it's becoming more of a reality because I think there's probably
Starting point is 00:39:49 a bigger and bigger investment going into making it seem like it's not the reality of the situation. I have something really smart to say. Storm, I was thinking torrential downpours, tarantulas spiders there's a b
Starting point is 00:40:09 disaster movie yeah right there it's raining spiders storm yeah yeah torrent torrential only thing i disagree with is that it's a b movie i think you yeah that oscar bait you know a24 and it would be better than everything we've seen this year. Thank you. Honestly, I would fuck with a spiders raining down movie. Although Miles did talk about how Florida is turning red. That did make me want to ask the question, what did you think of that movie? Which came out this year, Turning Red?
Starting point is 00:40:37 Oh, it did. It came out so early in the year that I keep forgetting to associate it with 2022. I did rather like it it was it was very it was great it also like didn't come out it just it came out on disney plus right they didn't drop it man that was in march too i was like what was that january of 2022 it was march yeah they really that's a good one though that's the good turning red in florida the bad turning red yeah but not to say there's you know nothing to work for down there but it's just kind of That was a good one, though. That's the good turning red in Florida. The bad turning red. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:15 But not to say there's, you know, nothing to work for down there, but it's just kind of I think it's just the way the media is like or, you know, conservative pundits are like, and it's all because he hates wokeness. It's like, no, no, no. Yeah, that's not all it is. That's just the thing that's fun for you to cover. And that is the easiest to generate a bunch of stories on. And by covering it that way, you are playing directly into his hands. Hey, speaking of Rick, the co-creator of Rick and Morty, Justin Roiland, is a fucking creep and a known creep for a while now. Yeah. But it's just getting picked up in the mainstream media.
Starting point is 00:41:44 while now yeah but it's just getting picked up in the mainstream media he was charged with domestic violence false imprisonment by menace violence fraud and or deceit stemming from a 2020 arrest he has had like multiple court dates on this subject and since that might be in a public docket what's that that's that probably be in the public docket for people to know that you've been in in court for something. Yeah. And since that hit and like as you know, it's been the subject of more than a dozen court hearings. It was not being reported. And Justin Roiland continued to thrive in the industry, making over one point six five million with fucking NFTs. So, you know, he's cool.
Starting point is 00:42:23 Selling a painting at Sotheby's, launching a video game and creating multiple new animated shows, presumably about characters with screechy voices. Got his ass. Yeah, again, can we all just admit that I got his ass and then we can move on?
Starting point is 00:42:40 But, yeah, so now that they're like, oh, okay, so we are acknowledging that this happened some of the people that he's victimized like dozens of people have come forward to share their own stories about his predatory and inappropriate behavior or in some cases reshare
Starting point is 00:42:56 because they'd already posted them in the past but bigoted behavior in the workplace and predatory behavior like grooming of 15 year old fans of Rick and Morty. So cool. It's wild that it's like something like this, like two years ago,
Starting point is 00:43:15 right? It's that something like this happens is known, but then I'm sure like so many stories we've read, like whether it's like Harvey Weinstein or other people in industry, like sometimes like we kind of need to reach a critical mass of victims right to be able to then say it's a problem because if it's just a couple then it's like and then like the fact that that's how it's even like like analyzed like in an editorial sense is so fucked up because yeah right in the interim like you're saying he's
Starting point is 00:43:46 making money he's cooking and he's probably continuing to who knows what other people have been you know i am surprised though in the post me too era which is when the story first broke because it was what 2020 yeah that it wouldn't have gotten more attention then. That I find fascinating. And I wonder if it has something to do with the very famously or infamously toxic fan base of his and of, like, Rick and Morty. Like, I don't know if...
Starting point is 00:44:19 I don't know, but... Oh, for sure, this is a... This is fucking draft day for the right wing army i'm sure of like you know rick and morty fans who've been looking for a reason to be like woke culture's out of control a woman wrote this yeah like you know that we've seen it all the time like whether it's the people the writer like the writing staff decisions that are fucking Szechuan sauce. Remember that shit? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:50 I was like, man, these people. Okay, go ahead. Do you. But yeah, I mean, it's I feel like another moment, too, where there's I'm sure many people, like you're saying, people who have shared their account before. shared their account before yet disinterested outlets or whatever not taking the time to like you know that that and actually put a story out that would allow some form of accountability to come yeah all right let's take a quick break we'll come back and talk about what it's like to work at twitter right now. Oh, no. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of
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Starting point is 00:47:52 They lying. An individual that came to the school saying that God sent him to talk to me about the mascot switch is a leader. You choose hills that you want to die on. Why would we want to be the losing team? I'd just take all the other stuff out of it. Segregation academies. When civil rights said that we need
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Starting point is 00:48:39 and the employees who work in their offices and the company's Asia Pacific headquarters in Singapore this week were escorted out, walked out of the building by the landlords because Elon Musk stopped paying rent a while back. Wait, what? So, first of all, shout out to the first cool thing Elon Musk has done ever, which is like refusing to pay landlords. Right. I guess not the first cool thing elon musk has done ever which is like refusing to pay landlords right i guess not the first cool thing ever it's electric vehicles are definitely but he didn't but he didn't know he just hostily took took over that business yeah but like inventing a persona where he's like the tony stark of electric electric vehicles is probably useful in the long run it's just he turned that into being the shittiest version of that possible but anyways he just doesn't pay for their rent so everybody uh is now being invited to work remotely that's cool again this how cool is this guy does says fuck the landlords
Starting point is 00:49:42 lets everybody work remotely work from home do your thing i may have said some wrong stuff earlier being like you guys better get in here for some face time but yeah like so what like what how do they even explain what did twitter say uh that's a good question twitter's comment let me see if i can find it here oh they didn't comment on the development because of course the company no longer has a communications department to contact for comment so dude 4d chess right there how can i make a comment if i don't even have the ability to do that through formal channels and i think weren't there like didn't people get chased out of another like in san francisco or something san francisco seattle the landlords in san francisco are suing him for over 136 000 an unpaid rent because he just stopped he stopped paying rent there yeah yeah i saw is he doing it in like a baller cool way where he's like
Starting point is 00:50:37 fuck you to the man where you know like fuck these landlords who are exploiting you know, like, fuck these landlords who are exploiting, you know, everyday people and like rents are too high for anyone to feasibly afford. He's just doing it the way that like billionaires refuse to pay taxes, right? Or just someone who absolutely doesn't have their shit together at all. And just when is the Guinness Book of World Records records for biggest financial L taken in the history of mankind? Yeah. It's probably like oh shit bills ah here's another uh cool baller move he was also like and also fuck the janitors of the world so the reason this might actually come as a relief to some of these
Starting point is 00:51:19 employees is because he stopped paying janitors a while back and just fired them all forcing workers to bring their own toilet paper and have to clean up their own workplace at these offices. Didn't he, when he took over, he was like, everybody's coming into the office. You're going to show me your best code. It's going to be like swordfish. I'm going to hold a gun to your head
Starting point is 00:51:41 and make you code while you're getting your dicks up. Which is a thing that hardcore it is I've never seen it that's the first test that John Travolta puts Hugh Jackman under yeah because Hugh Jackman supposed to be this hacker
Starting point is 00:51:57 yeah and getting head with a gun to his head with a gun to his head well I'm trying to hack man i'm trying to hack and he's like the version of movie hacking that's like a uh cardiovascular like event where you're like having you're like hacking so hard he's like this guy's got the best hacking fingers in the game look at those suckers whoa so it's like that scene from social network when they're like they have the like coders around a
Starting point is 00:52:25 table and they have to like chug beer every 10 minutes or whatever every three minutes it's that dialed up to a 69 yeah hey hell yeah i think we all have to stop and admit that uh caitlin got our asses got our ass with that that one yep dead to rights uh officially gotten yeah has been gotten got it all right let's talk about an actual cool famous person ben affleck thank you the goat bro my man creep too though isn't he he's like been yeah shit yeah fuck wait did something recently come out of him too no i think there's just like the thing that i know about is like all those videos where he was like you know he was drunk all day all the time and like going on press tours and just like being like here come here and sit on
Starting point is 00:53:16 my lap oh yeah he was a lot of like female interviewers really uncomfortable yeah is this like on his way to like the the bot like on the way down to when he like ended up having to go to rehab and everything like that or has it continued after no i think not to be like then guys get over it no right yeah no no i think it was part of his you know struggles with substances but not either way those are behind him in any you know day at a time anyways uh he got up top one of the things that he is known for in addition to you know being a creepy interview is being a duncan super fan you know i think is is he holding a duncan frozen duncan drink in the sad affleck meme or is that a Starbucks? I can't remember. I feel like
Starting point is 00:54:08 he has a big iced coffee in the sad Affleck meme. The one where he's like in that doorway? Oh, maybe he's just smoking in that one. I thought there's a... I feel like he's carrying a giant. How many sad Affleck memes are
Starting point is 00:54:23 there? There's one because the first one that pops up when you just many sad Affleck memes are there? There's one, because the first one that pops up when you just search sad Affleck meme is him sitting beside, is that Henry Cavill? Oh yeah, that makes sense because it's probably Batman v Superman. And he's just like,
Starting point is 00:54:36 has a soft look on his face. Then there's the one in his towel, like looking out at the sea with his sick ass Phoenix back tat. Oh, okay. I think I'm out at the sea with his sick ass Phoenix back tat. Oh, okay. I think I'm looking at the one. Okay, so it's him. He's like grimacing.
Starting point is 00:54:52 He's like holding way more than he's able to comfortably. Yeah. As far as Duncan. It's a Duncan Donuts. It's Duncan Munchkins. It's like three iced coffees. He has a shirt that says like, believe in Boston on it. Hell yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:10 It's the most Boston photo I've ever seen in my life. Anyways, he is now creating the opposite, the polar opposite of the sad Affleck memes. He went and just worked a dunkin donuts drive-through we we don't know what we're assuming this is like part of a fucking super bowl commercial it has dude there's no way some fucking celebrity's like you know what i want to humble myself and work a service job for a while just to see what that's like like i feel that this isn't this content it has to be like this is it has to be content i really hope for him for us as a
Starting point is 00:55:53 society that it's not and that this is just a thing that he's doing and like out of a sense of like i i don't know like there when you go back there there's that book that I talk about a dawn of everything that like looks back at a bunch of civilizations like in America before like pre Colombian Americas and one of the things that they find
Starting point is 00:56:18 that these civilizations would do repeatedly is they would have like they would change so like one person would be designated as like the ruler for a year but then they would spend a couple weeks doing like cleaning out the shit of everybody else like that there was there was no permanence to the status in any of these civilizations and like it it feels like they all came on this i came upon this idea because like that's that's a great idea like to undercover boss but like real
Starting point is 00:56:53 actually like not for the cameras but like actually undercover boss the shit out of our civilization so that like nobody is permanently anything and you don't get to stay and like people people who were like viewed as leaders were viewed inherently with distrust and if they tried to stay leader for like more than six months everyone was like i'm gonna fuck out of here like you're your leader wannabe ass yeah so i don't know okay i think i think we need more of this built into our civilization where, you know, somebody who is 2008's Ben Affleck is now somebody you could actually just like pass in the drive-thru and be like, oh shit, Affleck. Yeah, you were that guy. Hey, you fucked up my culotta. Hey, asshole.
Starting point is 00:57:42 Hey, ass neck, you fucked up my drink. Now get back in there. Got his ass. He looks so happy in these pictures. Quick question. Quick question. Was J-Lo around? J-Lo was there too. And that is why we know it is content.
Starting point is 00:57:58 I mean, I don't know. So it's either straight up content or it's the weirdest shit. And she's like, I don't know. This shit. And she's like, I don't know. This is cool. She's like, I don't know. I'm worried about him. I just want to keep my eye on him. Maybe he's researching for a role.
Starting point is 00:58:12 Yeah. I think that could be. And he's like, man. So he's like playing somebody who works at a Dunkin' drive-thru. And he insists that the script be adjusted to where everyone's just like so happy to see you every time they get to the window and they're like oh shit you're ben affleck i mean i'm reading the script and it's just not really connecting like this this guy who works the drive through it sounds like he's he's not appreciated by others and it's really a sad time but
Starting point is 00:58:40 everything i've experienced was fantastic people were so kind and supporting pure joy upon seeing me i'm not sure this is i don't know this is really connecting to reality yeah and like he never gives them their money back when they try to pay for their drink like i did when i was because that's apparently what he was doing he's like nah you don't not you're not paying me for this money. It's on the house. It's on the Affleck. It's on the C-suite. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:09 But anyways, J-Lo was there to working or just, you know, sitting. She's not. We don't know what J-Lo would never. A lot of questions. Would never do that. She won't let a chauffeur look her in the eye. You know what I mean? I have started to see yeah
Starting point is 00:59:25 like things on twitter where people are like man every single one of when you ask like somebody who's worked in the entertainment industry for a while like rudest celebrity you've ever met they were like the answer is always the same i'm not gonna say who it is but then everyone in the comments was like j-lo j- like j-lo j-lo yeah one woman was like my dad was a chauffeur like he's a driver in chicago and like would drive celebrities like part of like a you know like one of those services that a lot of like higher up people use and she was saying like yeah you know i know that she doesn't look people in the eye or doesn't like people to look her in the eye because i remember my dad caught eyes with her in the rearview mirror
Starting point is 01:00:03 and he was scolded for looking at her when he was just like looking in his mirrors right and they're like yeah so that's the kind of person we're talking about don't even cast your gaze upon me which that's cool that's cool yeah I think that is cool that's a cool power play and but I do it I do it the reverse way which is I'm not going to cast my eyes on anyone right because I'm just too in my own head at the moment yeah yeah no I'm bad with eye contact for sure i just don't get how you could be in made in manhattan right about a working class woman who like i don't even remember the plot she like pretends to be rich and then voldemort starts dating her, and some other stuff happens. But you can't be in that movie and then...
Starting point is 01:00:53 Look, what I'm saying is she should work at Dunkin' Donuts just to remember. Exactly. That she's just Jenny from the block. Yeah. You started from humble beginnings. You survived a terrible trip into the Amazon looking for an anaconda where most people you knew died. And you came back with your life. And you still, wow.
Starting point is 01:01:14 You've got to find things to be grateful about, J-Lo. Yeah. Thank you. By the way, speaking of a terrible trip through the jungle, just saw The Lost City last night. Oh, yeah. Or most of The Lost City. Okay. Did your children get too scared 45 minutes in? Yes. trip through the jungle just saw the lost city last night oh yeah lost city okay i did your children get too scared 45 minutes yes my children in quotes got too scared absolutely pissed themselves in her but me jack i was so i was not scared at all it is a bad moment a bad
Starting point is 01:01:43 movie with great moments i I will say that. I completely agree. Yeah. Yeah. And I'm not even so strongly in the bad movie category. It's, I don't know. Great airplane movie. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:54 It's what I turn on a movie for. It gave me all that. Got a 3.3. And the ability to check out 50 minutes in and be like, I probably don't need to watch the rest of this. Like, no, I think I got everything. Like this is Bowen.
Starting point is 01:02:09 Yang has a great cameo. Patty Harrison is wonderful. There's a great cameo. Yeah. All around. Good. All right. Caitlin Durante,
Starting point is 01:02:21 AKA the Durantula. Yes. Thank you. It's been such a pleasure having you where can people find you follow you all that good stuff you can follow me on instagram twitter oops and tiktok i do tiktok now and wow on tiktok yeah is me re-editing the endings of iconic movies to to make them let's just say i make them a little bit more shrekian so yeah that's a big project i'm working on and of course you can listen to the bechtel cast that i co-host with Jamie Loftus, and we analyze movies through an intersectional feminist lens.
Starting point is 01:03:09 One of the great podcasts out there. Yes, yes. If it does indeed exist. We're not fully willing to acknowledge that other podcasts exist. But let's say that it does. In a hypothetical universe where other podcasts exist, it's one of the greats. Yeah, yeah. In a hypothetical universe where other podcasts exist, it's one of the greats. Yeah, yeah. And speaking of Ben Affleck, we are soon to be releasing an episode on Armageddon in which maybe Ben Affleck's greatest work of all time is his DVD commentary.
Starting point is 01:03:39 Yeah, where he's just, I think, probably a little drunk and just telling the absolute truth the whole time. Yeah. Like getting Michael Bay's ass. Got his ass. Ben got his ass. Yeah. Is that where he tells the story where he was like, so I asked him, like,
Starting point is 01:03:59 wouldn't it be easier to teach astronauts how to be oil refiners than to teach oil refiner-like workers how to teach astronauts how to be oil refiners than to teach oil refiner like workers how to be astronauts yeah and uh michael's response was ben shut the fuck up that's exactly what happened yeah out of my face i'm gonna go kill a pigeon real quick yeah killed a pigeon anyways is there a tweet or some of the work of social media you've been enjoying oh yes um oh yeah sorry this is from at alicia lutes lutes i'm not sure how to say the last name l-u-t-e-s says movie pitch jennifer coolidge and owen wilson just saying wow at each other yeah Owen Wilson just saying wow at each other. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:46 That was one of mine from last week. Oh, shit. Oh, I'm so behind. Yeah, like some are just so good because you can picture it immediately. Yeah. Wow. Wow. Wow. Really?
Starting point is 01:04:57 A wow fight between those. Miles, where can people find you? What is a tweet you've been enjoying? Wherever there's at signs, look up at Miles of Gray, G-R-A-Y. I know sometimes people have trouble with that one. You can also find me and Jack on our basketball podcast, Miles and Jack on Mad Boosties. And if in case, I know some of you are like,
Starting point is 01:05:18 what are they saying the name of the thing is? Because we go through it all the time. Miles and Jack got Mad Boosties. Check that out also if you want to hear me talk about 90 day fiance check out for 20 day fiance some tweets i like first one from ryan kennedy at the ryan k tweeted funny thing about tv work you'll have the worst job ever and at the end they give you a sweatshirt to remember the experience you should throw it away but it's usually a pretty nice shirt from a brand you can't afford. So it's forever just this cursed piece of maddening laundry.
Starting point is 01:05:47 Yeah. There's always like, you're like, damn, that's a nice. They gave you a North Face for that. Like, yeah, man. Worked my ass to the bone. Another one from Eve Andrews at EF Andrews tweeted. I just know in my heart that everyone freaking out about gas stoves is not actually a good or habitual cook. And you know what?
Starting point is 01:06:06 That's facts. That's I feel that too okay probably true but at the same time i don't know i don't know where i don't blame your tools gas stovage i'm just saying artist doesn't blame their tools that's right oh you're saying they're freaking out about like not they're freak out yeah they're like if you if you're freaking out that bad it's because you aren't, again, actually a good or habitual cook. Right. Because you cook enough, you know how to get down on whatever. I thought you meant that. I thought the tweet meant stop hating gas stoves.
Starting point is 01:06:36 You're probably not a good cook and don't know that you need gas stoves. But it's the opposite. Anyways, you can find me on twitter at jack underscore o'brien uh tweet i've been enjoying uh existential comics tweeted why are ethics questions always like is it ethical to steal bread to feed your starving family and not is it ethical to hoard bread when families are starving yeah that's a great question. We should take another look at that. And then just to all purpose, Dan White, one of my favorite follows on Twitter,
Starting point is 01:07:16 just had a tweet where he said, So much for just text me if you ever need anything. And then a screen cap of a conversation with Mike, neighbor. Vikings looking good. Yep. Hey, can I borrow your gun it's for a YouTube video no response from Mike neighbor Vikings looking
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Starting point is 01:07:54 as well as a song that we think you might enjoy. Miles, is there a song that you think people might enjoy? Jag, did you read the timest stamps on those texts though from the dan white thing that's also what makes this so funny because vikings looking good is at 2 31 p.m yep then 2 38 a.m hey can i borrow your gun then then the follow-up later 4 14 it's for a YouTube video. The song I want to go out on is by Shy Girl, and it's called Wildfire. Shy Girl is like a DJ, MC, lyricist. And just like if you like Pink Pantherous and kind of that like, you know, like light ethereal drum and bass vibe.
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