The Daily Zeitgeist - Undercover Inside Project 2025, Grok’s New Lawsuit Generator 08.16.24

Episode Date: August 16, 2024

In episode 1727, Jack and guest co-host Pallavi Gunalan are joined by author of The Climb, Michael Swaim, to discuss… Secret Project 2025 Videos, Laura Ingraham Has Uncovered The Conspiracy, RFK Jr.... Trying To Meet With Harris To Get Cabinet Job, X’s New AI Image Generator Will Make Anything From Taylor Swift In Lingerie To Kamala Harris With A Gun and more! Secret Project 2025 Videos Project 2025 director steps down amid backlash from Trump The Posse Comitatus Act Explained White House wanted 10k active duty troops to quell protesters Laura Ingraham Has Uncovered The Conspiracy Texas Gov. Greg Abbott vows to keep busing migrants north. One problem: Not enough migrants. RFK Jr. Trying To Meet With Harris To Get Cabinet Job X’s New AI Image Generator Will Make Anything From Taylor Swift In Lingerie To Kamala Harris With A Gun The AI-generated hell of the 2024 election LISTEN: Lil Thing by Knox FortuneSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Jack stop deep throating the mic Jesus Christ stop throating the mic yeah and can you stop spitting on it
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Starting point is 00:00:16 saying concrete jungle wet dream tomato that's her that's the same one that's the same girl okay she's funny
Starting point is 00:00:24 yeah I know she's just fucking she's like get her a reality show they are they've signed her for all sorts of shit i like that jay-z song uh concrete jungle wet dream tomato okay first i thought she didn't know what she was doing, but she knows what she's doing. Hey, fam. I'm Simone Boyce. I'm Danielle Robay. And we're the hosts of The Bright Side, the podcast from Hello Sunshine that's guaranteed to light up your day. Check out our recent episode with Grammy Award winning rapper Eve on motherhood and the music industry.
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Starting point is 00:03:54 I've been waiting for it. It's a mathematical day of some sort. That's official. I'm a math expert. Anyways, my name is Jack O'Brien, aka One Love. Nope. One Glove. One Couch.
Starting point is 00:04:11 Let's fuck the cushion and feel all right. That one courtesy of Lockaroni on the Discord in reference to our Erstwhile GOP VP nominee. I don't know if I used erstwhile correctly, but anyways, he is the GOP VP nominee and he may or may not have fucked a couch. I'm thrilled to be joined by a very special guest, co-host, a hilarious stand-up comedian,
Starting point is 00:04:40 writer, actor, improviser. You can catch her on stage all the time. Just go to her website. But definitely at the monthly facial recognition comedy show, which she also produces. It's Pallavi Gunawen! Well, I have a fun idea, Dems. Maybe just change your mind.
Starting point is 00:05:00 I know you're craving a win now. And Kamala's just so nice. And we could live so happily if no one knows your mid-ease policies. But really? Really? Really? Please, please, please don't be the
Starting point is 00:05:18 right. Please, please, please don't bring me to tears when I just did my taxes so right. Heartbreak is one thing. Imperialism's another. I beg you, don't embarrass me, motherfucker. Ah, please, please, please.
Starting point is 00:05:40 That last part ended poorly, but you get the idea. You nailed it. You nailed it. I nailed it. I nailed that landing. That was wonderful. That was because you were talking about all the Gen Z artists. That's Sabrina Carpenter for you, Jack.
Starting point is 00:05:53 Of course it is Sabrina Carpenter. And I knew it before. And that's how I feel. I feel so embarrassed by everything right now. I know. Jesus Christ. That was just off the dome. That was Apollo V original.
Starting point is 00:06:05 I prepped that one. I always have to prep because I'm very bad at singing. That was beautiful. Well done. Thank you. Pallavi, thank you so much for joining us all week. Tip your waiters. It's been so fun. It's been here all week, folks. We are thrilled, Paula V, to be joined in our third seat by a brilliant filmmaker, writer, actor, comedian, podcaster who co-founded Small Beans, which the AV Club called one of the best podcast networks where you can find.
Starting point is 00:06:38 He and a bunch of the talented people we worked with at Cracked creating content. He co-hosted the Cracked podcast with me, made and starred in a bunch of the best videos we made there. Just dropped the audio book of his brilliant first novel, The Climb. Please welcome the brilliant and talented Michael Swaim! Woo! Hey, everybody. It's Michael Swaim. A-A-K-47. Boom, boom.
Starting point is 00:07:00 You're dead. I win. A certain segment of America loves me. I get free fast food. There you go. Wait, free fast food is the best. How are you, Michael? It's great to have you back on the show.
Starting point is 00:07:18 Thanks, man. Always good to be here. Yeah, I had to duck out last time we synced up because of a severe medical issue. So, yeah, I'm much better. Yeah, that was scary. It's like the day of. They never found out what it was, which is scary, too. And also fun, you know, keeps people guessing, keeps the mystery of life.
Starting point is 00:07:40 Although since then, I've been to the ER twice. Separate things. Once in an ambulance. So I'm on a good streak. Wow. I hope you're training to be a paramedic. Jesus Christ. Oh, they were all just informational ride-alongs. Yeah, I'm doing a crack article about interesting professions. I'm still sending Jack pitches.
Starting point is 00:08:01 Are you not getting my pitches? Did you spam me, dude? You spam folder me? That's like how I had to shoot someone, but that was just in a ride along to be a police officer, you know? Yeah. Love the ride alongs. Michael, we are going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell the listeners a couple of things we're talking about. We have secrets behind the scenes videos of one of the architects of Project 2025 talking about that. So we have just a little bit better insight into what it all means, what they're planning. We'll talk about RFK Jr. trying to meet with Kamala Harris to get a cabinet job. That's not going well for him. Secretary of the brain worm yes that's i mean he has specific
Starting point is 00:08:48 asks that you would think the whole brain worm of it all would get in the way but oh the balls on this guy he's getting ratatouille by the brain worm this brain worm the most ambitious brain worm of all time. The brain worm is like, please find some soil. Demand she put new top soil down. We'll talk about that. We'll talk about maybe a Laura Ingraham conspiracy. Maybe this AI image generator, the grok on Twitter. It's always fun when a new AI image generator comes out and they haven't been sued enough yet
Starting point is 00:09:26 to like rein it in all of that plenty more but first Michael Swain we do like to ask our guest what is something from your search history that is revealing about who you are search item disco elysium large thought cabinet print canvas over $450. Because even though I'm between jobs right now, every once in a while you have to just go nuts. I didn't find one that I could purchase. If people who have played Disco Elysium, which is a great point-and-click adventure game that's just super well-written and highly politically charged and trippy, as all get out. And there's this brilliant, like, the stats image is pretty notable. It's called the Thought Cabinet. And I'm trying to find a print, but all the prints I can find, I think, don't treat it with enough respect. So, like,
Starting point is 00:10:22 I want a really nice big one like a mature adult copy of this thing from this video game and it's hard to find so i might just buy the 80 dollar cheap like a print canvas that would like go up on your wall or this is that's huge yeah i want a really big canvas that treats it like a real painting because it is a real painting now i don't play a lot of video games uh sure but i do like to have video games described to me and i find it very entertaining so i am curious to hear more about disco elysium yeah it's about a broken down alcoholic amnesiac cop in a sort of alternate history europe that's fractured into a bunch of tiny nation states and you do things like internalize mazovian socioeconomics is like a an action you take in the RPG or various, like it's all about
Starting point is 00:11:29 your internal thought process and it's very hard to describe, but you can find a lot of info on it. It was one of the notable games of the year. What's really funny about it is it's super, super leftist and like take down the man, communism is cool, etc. And it just got optioned to be an Amazon series. Which is like, cha-ching! Bezos has been radicalized, folks.
Starting point is 00:11:55 I just had to Google so many words in a row. Disco Elysium's the name of the game. I know, and then I was like, Maysovian socioeconomics? Yeah, what does that mean? I prefer to be a leftist who doesn't read. Yeah, too much homework involved in that.
Starting point is 00:12:12 It sounds like a lot. Put that in a TikTok video and I will spread misinformation like wildfire. I do like tiny nation states. Like that is something from history that always like just reading about early Italian or Greek history where it was like warring. The warring nations were were the equivalent of like rival like small town football teams. It was like, you know, 20,000 people over here, 20,000 people over there.
Starting point is 00:12:39 Maybe I should have said satellite states because this is definitely like half and hard-boiled detective and 80s like USSR fracturing into a million different things. Okay, got it. Nice. Sounds fun. What is something that you think is underrated, Michael? Yeah, I was just talking about this last night with a friend because the new Steven Soderbergh movie is coming out. Sure, Soderbergh. Presence. It's a ghost movie and a haunted house shot from the point of view of the ghost. It looks very interesting.
Starting point is 00:13:10 But regardless, dude did so much. And I find, because I talk about film exhaustively with all my friends, it's what we mainly talk about. And when you go, best director ever, you always immediately surface. And i don't you
Starting point is 00:13:27 don't necessarily agree with all them that's too long to get into but the ones we say you know like tarantino kubrick spielberg and no one ever says steven soderbergh and it's insane that we don't because he is up there with those people. Dudes. All dudes, unfortunately. But yeah, Soderbergh's awesome. That's my big take. Unsane.
Starting point is 00:13:53 So good. Shot on phones. I hate because my, you know, trying to break into Hollywood, I'd always say, there's these gatekeepers and you need so much money. And my mom's like, just shoot it on your phone. I'm like, you don't get it, mom. Then fucking Steven money and my mom's like just shoot it on your phone i'm like you don't get it mom then fucking steven soderbergh's like i'll do it i think your mom's cool dude yeah they did that with like monkey man too because like they had so many issues in filming that and like their cameras got messed up and it was covid and they they had to do some scenes on phone and it ended up being really cool because they like would do like a swinging effect with it and it was like i was like damn this is really scrappy
Starting point is 00:14:30 and i love it so much but also i'm like yeah there's no excuse for us to not make great things and i hate that sometimes facetime does interrupt the shot and you just have to be okay with that you just have to answer your mother from your mom asking you why you're not shooting on how come you can direct a full movie but you can't direct your parents how to use the front facing camera correctly i just always write in a robot character that vibrates occasionally so you can keep rolling through it in every movie and just put it it's a romantic comedy it's our robot friend are your number one Soderbergh movies... Give me your top five Soderbergh.
Starting point is 00:15:10 Are they the ones that people have seen? Are they the ones that people haven't heard? Because he really mixes it up. There will be experimental films in there with Ocean's Eleven. I know. I was like, it'd be so funny if Michael was like, Ocean's Eleven, Ocean's Twelve, Ocean's Thirteen. Aaron Brockovich,
Starting point is 00:15:28 quite good. Those are the only ones I've seen. Stand up, I think traffic, of course, is a biggie. I'm looking through everything.
Starting point is 00:15:35 Wait, what was the first one you said? Aaron Brockovich. Aaron Brockovich. Oh, yeah. Unsane. He did Magic Mike's Last Dance.
Starting point is 00:15:42 I really like Solaris as well. I'm looking through here i really like the informant uh informant's really good yeah yeah because he almost always does some kind of weird restriction that i find really interesting so for like he did the phones for insane for sex lies and videotape they shot on vhs videotape quite intentionally. For The Informant, it has that concept where it's like, what if a character's internal monologue did not comport with what was going on around them? He's never thinking about what the scene's about.
Starting point is 00:16:15 So I just find he does these bold maneuvers that I really, really respect. And yeah, Ocean's Eleven. Put it on there. Undeniable. Undeni, Ocean's Eleven. Put it on there. Undeniable. Undeniably a great movie. You got us entertained by a whole movie just being the gang getting together
Starting point is 00:16:31 montage and then an explanation of how in retrospect we did the heist already and it's done. Like that's so simple. Yeah. And Brad Pitt eating an apple. God, he's so good at eating nachos. He's great. Yeah. Yeah. What is Pitt eating an apple. God, he's so good at eating nachos. He's great. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:46 Yeah. What is something you think is overrated? S'mores. Okay. Shit dessert. S'mores are shit dessert. I don't know if this is just me or if other people are experiencing this in the world, because we obviously did a zeitgeist-y intern where now it's dark chocolate outpaced milk chocolate. Which when I was younger, it was milk chocolate everywhere. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:11 S'mores are everywhere now that I'm seeing. There's like s'mores flavored soda. Oh, yeah. S'mores. Things trying to taste like s'mores. It's a stupid word. Has needless apostrophe. Some mores?
Starting point is 00:17:23 You want some mores? Fuck get out of here dry cracker like i don't understand why other better things like a fine chocolate at a chocolatier's are trying to taste like s'mores yeah it's definitely a thing that's like a nostalgia thing of like being around a bonfire or being it like going camping. And they're trying to take that and change the ethos of it to make it like fancier or different or whatever. And it's like, the reason this is good is for the memories. You know,
Starting point is 00:17:55 if I'm sitting at home, like eating a s'more, I'm like, this is not, this is sad now. Yeah. My argument is just eat chocolate and throw glow sticks into the fire. Cause they explode and then you glow and it's awesome. Yeah. My argument is just eat chocolate and throw glow sticks into the fire because they explode and then you glow and it's awesome. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:10 Probably carcinogenic. Yeah, it's probably not good for you. And then huff the glowing gases. You have a different nostalgia than I do. And you're so sick, dude. We did do that. That was one of our regular camping activities. Yeah, because they get hot and boil and pop and then you have dots of glowing shit all over you and you play hide and seek
Starting point is 00:18:33 in the woods. Oh my god, really? That sounds really psychedelic and fun. It would make a good nostalgic J.J. Abrams movie scene of kids playing. Yeah. I think you zeroed in on it with the dry crackers. You mentioned the dry crackers of
Starting point is 00:18:50 the s'mores and I think that it's always the thing that when I have the s'mores. J.D. Vance, is that what you're talking about? Dry crackers. And marshmallows are mid. They're not bad. Vegan marshmallows are really good.
Starting point is 00:19:04 Vegan marshmallows are really good? Vegan marshmallows are really good? Vegan marshmallows are better than regular marshmallows. I'm vegan, but when I was vegetarian, my meat-eating friends, they would do that thing where they're like, this is actually better than the original. I'm like, I actually believe you. You ever hear people say vegan and go, what?
Starting point is 00:19:19 Vegan? I'm encountering vegan lately, too. Trickle-down broccoli. Are they saying vegan like vaguely vegan? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm hearing vegan pronounced vegan. But are they doing it as a bit like I'm vaguely vegan? No, no.
Starting point is 00:19:37 I'm not actually vegan? They're doing it as a more acutely vegan. I'm a pro-reagan vegan. I know a different pronunciation yeah i think it's like they're implying that it's the proper pronunciation yeah yeah i'm so vegan that i actually know this other level this feels like a psyop against like this is like meat eaters being like what how can we make them more fucking annoying right have you Have you ever had, I mean, I guess, if you don't like two of the three ingredients, you're probably
Starting point is 00:20:08 off. But if you replace the dry crackers with some moist cookies, it's actually pretty good. Oh, yeah. Squishy chocolate chip cookie sandwich with marshmallow and chocolate inside. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:23 Okay, now you guys sound like you're trying to elevate the s'more again. It sounds like you're doing. So we're doing a bit of an elevated s'more concept. A deconstructed construction. And also like the dry crackers just like crumble too much. They're just, you take a bite into them and it's now in 45 pieces. You know? That's the beauty of it.
Starting point is 00:20:45 That's why we can't escape the Nature Valley granola bar. We love the mess. We're just messy bitches, you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That is my kink. I just need that shit to be like crumbling on my chest. Crumbs in the bag, baby. Bums in the streets, crumbs in the sheets.
Starting point is 00:21:03 I also, you mentioned that we went from milk chocolate to dark chocolate and I'm, I want to go back. Me too. I love milk chocolate. It always felt like dark chocolate people were like very pretentious. And they push it. Because they made me feel bad about it. They're like 30% just as a treat sometime when you want to feel extra adult and you have that acquired taste. 50%, 60%, 70% dark chocolate.
Starting point is 00:21:29 And it's all you can get at the grocery store. The only thing you have control over is the percent of dark chocolate. Everything in the rest of your life is crumbling. But if you are able to take this bitterness just like you are your coffee and your beer, then you can take the fact that your wife Susan left you. Yeah. I just eat baking cocoa, actually. And that's my preferred form of chocolate intake.
Starting point is 00:21:53 New TikTok trend. Raw dogging cocoa. Raw bean chewer. Raw dogged cocoa. Yeah. I feel like it's for people who take pride in the wrong things about being an adult. You know? They're just like. Pain. Suffering. Bills like i've had people say to me be like you like chocolate oh you you like like dark chocolate like how dark you know they like want to get into like a dark chocolate darkness off and i'm just
Starting point is 00:22:18 like no i don't that feels very silicon valley tech bro i'm having like flashbacks. Yeah. Leave me out of your sick fucking game, man. Anyways, milk chocolate for life. Let's take a quick break and we'll be right back. I've been thinking about you. I want you back in my life. It's too late for that. I have a proposal for you. Come up here and document my project. All you need to do is record everything like you always do. One session. 24 hours.
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Starting point is 00:27:54 or what I've heard is that less bad for the environment in the same way Greek yogurt is tougher on the supply chain. Because it's like so concentrated. You're like, let me use even more cow-cow, co-cow. Cacao! Let me cram even more in there, even more densely and eat it all at once like a little chocolate
Starting point is 00:28:14 pig. What's that shit that they be smoking? Cacao! Cacao! A reference to an obscure Method Man track. So funny. Alright, let's get into it. a reference to a obscure method man track. So funny. All right. Let's get into it.
Starting point is 00:28:29 So Project 2025, we've been told we should be afraid of it. But then Donald Trump was like, I don't even know. What are you saying? Project 2025? I'm not even sure what that is. And then like distanced himself from it. People who were involved with it have been fired from his campaign. And like they really seem to be kind of concerned about people finding out what Project 2025 is and associating it with them. and dissociating it with them. However, they're not so concerned that they're not actually planning on
Starting point is 00:29:06 fully instituting this shit the second they get in the White House. So a British journalism non-profit went undercover posing as relatives of a wealthy conservative donor. It's so easy. Do you have any chocolate strawberries? They're British, so they went under sheet.
Starting point is 00:29:28 Just Project 2025 is bad, isn't it? Isn't it? You're doing Project 2025, isn't it? Massive. Literally so bad. But, you know, they had their suspicions, but not enough to turn down. They were talking about a seven- seven figure donation to his think tank. And God, we we need to keep the think tanks in operation, the right wing think tanks in Washington.
Starting point is 00:29:54 So they record an interview with this guy whose name I think it was Russell Vote or it's like V-O-U-G-H-T. Yeah, Russell Vote. And he is a former trump cabinet member one of the key authors of project 2025 and also one of the key authors of the republican platform like at the rnc a couple weeks ago so like this this project that they're claiming they're like we don't even know about her who what it's written by the same people who write their fucking platform never heard of him he walks by in the background hey russell exactly russell is uh how do you pronounce v-o-u-g-h-t i'm gonna say vought like the villain and the boys like the evil evil bastard i need to watch the boys that is so funny that that's his name that is such a
Starting point is 00:30:51 prominent show right now and it's like such a well-known i wonder if there's any can vought as in vought industries yes um so he is also being mentioned as possible White House chief of staff in Trump's next administration. So he's the cause. Very cool. Very good. But totally, Trump has no idea about any of this 2025 stuff. What he said was essentially kind of what we already suspected. He said Trump's distancing himself from Project 2025, but it's like purely politics.
Starting point is 00:31:23 He asked why we can't demand that people immigrating to the united states be christians he described his stance as christian nationism he's like i'm not quite christian nationalism but i'm christian nationism i prefer a purer word. Right. A more ethically pure word. The O is too soft. Hemingway said, be spare, but true, but also racist. But also racist as fuck. And he did kind of say that his own way. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:57 His, yeah. A shotgun to the face. His plans also include to restrict pornography and. and for that i'm out i'm sorry you lost me i was curious when he said christian right does feel like one that they are going to like he even acknowledges he's like and so with the pornography ban, we're going to have to backdoor that one, so to speak. You know what I mean. You know what I mean. Not to use my favorite search phrase, but we're going to have to backdoor that one.
Starting point is 00:32:34 I really think we need to double penetrate the public consciousness. Hearts and minds. We're going to have to deep throat what we're giving them yes but also they have this plan to like do the biggest mass deportation of all time and basically start a culture war
Starting point is 00:32:55 around it and then that will like it's like that will start a conversation that they will then use to like win the argument on multiculturalism. I heard a Dana, I forget what her last name is, interview with J.D. Vance where she just like eviscerated him for like 20 minutes. And he was asked about this deportation thing because they want to deport 15 million people within the U.S. And she was like, logistically,
Starting point is 00:33:26 how the fuck is that going to happen? And he was like, well, you know, you got to close the borders because the borders are. And he had literally just said that Kamala Harris had no power as weep. And he was like, but she's in charge of the border. And he couldn't,
Starting point is 00:33:38 but he couldn't answer like how they were going to do that or what the, what would happen from that. But they're talking about 15 million people right no i mean physically buses planes what are we talking about exactly and he's like door to door asking for papers like she brought that up we've thought of that we're a think tank i have to go you know we we stay thinking we're thinking we're thinking all the
Starting point is 00:34:02 time of course we have a plan right now. Supposedly, I'm thinking. We're not a think car. We're not even a think bus. We're a think tank. America. Think tanks. Yeah, let me see what he said. Okay.
Starting point is 00:34:16 All right, DHS, we want to have the largest deportation. What are your actual memos that a secretary sends out to do it? Like, here's an executive order, regulations, secretarial memos. Those are the types of things that need to be thought through so you're not having to scramble or do that later on. So they're basically saying they have all the memos drafted to deport, you know, millions and millions of people. They're also doing AP government to the vice presidential.
Starting point is 00:34:41 people. They're also doing AP government to the vice presidential. They're like, so there's the legislative branch and there's the... Yeah. He's voraciously taking notes. Another hidden video, one of the Project
Starting point is 00:34:58 2025 people said of all the work that they've done in advance, it's a big fat stack of papers that will be distributed during the transition period. You don't actually like send them to their work emails in order to avoid disclosure under the Freedom of Information Act. So they're already preparing to hide the documents. So it's like already just like a secret plan to make the country more white and christian which is i guess what you would expect but it's just so bald-faced guys let's just leave
Starting point is 00:35:36 and take our food with us i'm sick of this shit you know what i mean like godspeed to them without our seasoning okay also if you ever find yourself in a position where you're like okay shut up shut up we're the good guys we're the good guys but don't tell anyone what we're talking about because it's so fucked up okay oh this is good that we're doing this yes uh examine self-examine at that point yeah and the other thing that they recognize that trump had like a lot of leakers in his first administration like there was a lot of inefficiencies and this guy's basically like we are going to be prepared to totally you know it's going to be only dyed in wool mega ites in his administration that's's right. No one in this room
Starting point is 00:36:26 could be seeing that. And this guy is clearly the best at testing the purity of someone's conviction. Giant foam hat with a camera in it, yeah. They said they had like dozens of cameras all over the hotel room. It's like to catch
Starting point is 00:36:42 a predator. There's a host. giuliani heard that and turned around there's graphics do they ever do that in to catch a predator like i actually never watched the show do they actually do the reveal where they're like there's a camera there there's a camera there like they did on punkton deport 15 million people yeah I don't think so. You're on reality TV. You're on. Candid, I mean. They got laughed congenially.
Starting point is 00:37:09 Oh, man. Catch a camera. Oh, boy. You got me. Look at my face. It's like punked. Oh, you guys really got me. You got me.
Starting point is 00:37:15 You saw the text? Oh, I'm going away for a long time. That was a good one. Long, long time. I think what I'm confused on is it feels like they've been working on Project 2025 forever. Like that's just like the Republican agenda. But it does seem a bit scarier that they put pen to paper and they do have these plans that are now visible to us of, for example, deporting these 15 million people. But I don't it just it feels like this is what they've been doing like has anything
Starting point is 00:37:46 really changed cheney cheney tried the same thing behind the scenes in secret he called it like the great conservative reboot or reconciliation or some shit and it's always this idea of if we like cheat hard enough or do something we can make it so it's republicans forever and there's no other party and it's like you can't make millions of people decide that your way of life is correct there's no way to force that but they they're much better positioned to do it now with the judiciary like with the supreme court being to put their people in power and push their policies. But I'm saying you can't make people in their hearts go, I do hate my trans friends.
Starting point is 00:38:31 You know what I mean? But I think that's what, I think they want to just eliminate the trans friends. You know what I mean? Right. I think that's the final solution they're looking for. That's the end game is fascism is force it. I think one of the scariest things about
Starting point is 00:38:45 Project 2025, because I think you're right that like a lot of the details sound like a lot of the shit they tried in the first administration sound like a lot of the other shit that Donald Trump says out loud. One of the scarier details is just like how much he's trying to distance himself from it.
Starting point is 00:39:02 So like the stuff in there must be terrifying they're you know like he's so he's like i don't know what because you do trump is a total right-wing grift but you will occasionally see him draw a line and it's literally out of narcissism like it's just when he's like that's so unpopular i clearly so he's clearly getting blowback It's a hundred percent because that's what like at all of our campaign rallies, like that's what Kamala is focusing on. They're all like, have you like, that is the liberal call right now is like, we have to stop Trump because we have to stop project 2025.
Starting point is 00:39:37 Have you seen this stuff in there? And that's, what's galvanizing people like very like liberal people to be terrified of another Trump presidency because it's all encapsulated in this one, you know, manifesto so well. And so Trump is seeing that and he's like, oh, that's bad press, you know, like, oh, like I'm not weird. J.D. Vance is weird, you know? So he's trying to like move, move his popularity back. They're saying that about JD, not me. Nobody said I'm weird. I'm a pretty chill guy. Laura Ingraham just had a segment on her show where she interviewed...
Starting point is 00:40:13 Oh my god, can't believe I missed it. I know. Did you not catch this one? Oh my god, I usually catch all of them. It's insane. She had Teenage Mutant Ninja Gobles on and, you know, to talk about why, like, I guess there's a new stat that 3.3 million people immigrated to the U.S. during the Biden administration. episode like the like immigrants are like the secret superpower of america's economy they like make more money like pay more in taxes are less likely to commit crimes than also not that not that long ago that was our romantic vision of ourselves was that we were a nation
Starting point is 00:41:01 of immigrants who came together and made a melting pot and shit yeah everything we do is just a story we tell ourselves but like we used to be proud of it and now we just flipped it's weird yeah also they're like really they send like really good food to me all the time shout out mom and dad yeah i need laurie they're pretty great so but their theory is that this is all purely a cynical ploy by the Democrats to create more voters. And they're just like, yeah, they're just letting anybody in because they're more likely to vote Democrat. That's also the white replacement theory. That's like the idea.
Starting point is 00:41:39 Who was who was there? I mean, more. It feels like more politicians now are despising miscegenation. There was someone close to J.D. Vance. I can't remember who it was, but someone up there was talking. I don't know. But they're talking more and more about that as though it's improper while also trotting out these minorities as tokens to be like,
Starting point is 00:42:02 see, we're not actually racist. It's fine. But also, let's have more white babies you know right but also you shouldn't be illegally allowed to marry these people who come to our rallies and we put front and center anyways also the the big greg abbott photo op where he was bussing immigrants he was bussing bussing bussing down he was bussing immigrants to uh other cities has stopped because they don't have enough people to like fill the buses so disappointing news what great shortage of so he's been doing that consistently and then he had to stop he had to
Starting point is 00:42:43 stop earlier this year the last the last bus full of immigrants that they sent to New York was like January. That's so fucked up. I didn't know it was like consistently being done. Yeah. And we just allowed it to keep happening. Yeah, he was Dr. Mario-ing all the other states. He was just dropping. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:02 I thought that was, I thought we all were like, this is illegal. It's like kidnapping. What the fuck? Oh, dude, we say that about everything that they do. I do feel like half the stuff that happens, we go, well, that's illegal. It turns out there's no such thing.
Starting point is 00:43:19 There's a loophole. We love our Constitution because it's just two scrawls on a post-it note yeah anyways uh on the other side of the ballot we have some jockeying so rfk jr has been my king my our king and who i will be voting for rfk jr no uh our worm king he has i have the same brain worm so and they're communicating with one another quantum entanglement so beautiful what a story quantum entanglement which i learned from a michael swain column a number of years ago uh shout out to you and i by the way i just butchered it by by suggesting worms could be quantumly intact. Yeah, it was about worms.
Starting point is 00:44:05 It was about how two brain worms could be quantumly intact. You edited the article, you son of a bitch. Two distant bodies acting on one another. Now you go back and you read it, you're like, there's a lot of worm content in here. That I think I added. Pixar, Pixar, Monkey Sphere. Pixar, Pixar, monkey sphere.
Starting point is 00:44:29 But so basically he is now lobbying. He has polling in hand that says that if he drops out and endorses one of the two candidates, it will be really good for those candidates, for that candidate, whether it be Trump or Harris. And so he we saw that clip of Trump talking to him on the phone, which went viral. It was like the week after Trump's attempted assassination. And RFK was just like holding the phone out, kind of frowning at it while Trump was just like going on and on. And he didn't realize he was being recorded yeah didn't realize he was being recorded was actually talking about how biden like called him after the assassination attempt and like it was weird because like trump was kind of impressed to be getting a call from the president he was like it's actually wild. The president, President Biden, like, called me. Name dropping. Yeah, he was name dropping Biden and was, like, charmed by, like, the jokes that Biden was telling and stuff.
Starting point is 00:45:32 But then he was like, but anyways, we're going to win. It's OK, Gabe. Hannibal Lecter, Shurka Tech. Shurka Tech, Hannibal Lecter, batteries. But he also was emphasizing, like, it's a done deal. We're going to win. but he also was emphasizing like it's it's a done deal we're gonna win and i agree with a lot of the stuff you say about vaccines and in retrospect it seems like this is trump courting rfk jr to like drop out of the race and endorse him that and then rfk jiors like i think now that he's seeing that that like at the
Starting point is 00:46:07 time at the time of that phone call it was like the mainstream media's belief that it was a done deal like it was over it was after the debate before biden had dropped out and now that things seem to be momentum seems to be shifting toward the Democrats and the Harris campaign. It seems like RFK is reaching out to be like, hey, I would drop out for you also. And if you would just make me the secretary of the Department of Health and human services that's literally a quote that's literally the one he wanted so that that article from uh the new yorker profile in which it's revealed that he put the bear cub in central park also has him talking about how his plan is like like how they would be open to offers of a cabinet post.
Starting point is 00:47:08 And I'm pretty sure there's a direct quote where he says like department of health and human services sounds nice, something to that effect. But he mentions that like, which is nightmarish. I'm going to need, I'm going to need the bears to rise up and defend your people, okay? Please. dropped out and endorsed Harris that any of his followers would go to,
Starting point is 00:47:47 like would vote for Harris. Like I think they need somebody, they, they would need it to be, yeah, they need it to be somebody who like is going to play a little bit of ball on the vaccine skepticism, like Trump, you know,
Starting point is 00:48:01 is that his main thing is vaccine skepticism. Is that it? I basically, I mean, Is that his main thing, is vaccine skepticism? Is that it? Basically. What is this thing other than a grab bag of the most insane fraternity stories you've ever heard? It's weird because besides teeing up hilarious viral internet jokes, what is he about? what is he about he has some policies that are like good and then you like get to the vaccine skepticism stuff and you're like oh you're like not on this planet you're give me one example of a good policy i'm sorry jack i have to put you i just don't understand the concept of RFK Jr. I mean, so one thing that that New Yorker profile says is that, like, he was polling. Like, you know, have you ever seen, like, Zogby's name in association with polls?
Starting point is 00:48:57 Like, the Zogby polls? Oh, you gotta see Zogby. You don't know Zogby? I don't know Zogby. It's a big political. I go every Sunday to Zogby? I don't know Zogby. It's a big political... I go every Sunday to Zogby. Popular polling person. It's short for Zogerman Bogby.
Starting point is 00:49:14 Zogerman Bogby. You're too quick for me. I can't, Michael. My brain is not keeping up with your humor. It's too smart. You kind hold on let me see if i can find i'm not gonna fucking not find good things about rfk jr i actually don't what am i doing good things about rfk jr you're gonna get a computer virus there's gonna be a worm in your laptop in two seconds just three minutes of silence. All right, let's get back to it. I do know that he like has some policies that, you know, are, I think, in line with
Starting point is 00:49:57 leftists like thinking, but then incredibly right wing in other places, and then also believes that he knows more than doctors and thinks Anthony Fauci is secretly trying to take over the globe and had racist conspiracies about COVID. Oh, yeah, for sure. Anyways, he's now reaching out to Harris being like, I'll drop out and endorse you if you give me a big position in your administration. Harris has ignored him. I don't know. I just I could see a version of things where he just such a bummer that this is even a thing that we get to, that we have to take into account. But the thing I was going to say about Zogby is, it starts out with this polling where he's like, who do Americans find most heroic? And he was like, wait, why is RFK Jr. the number one, like most heroic? And it's just it's the power of the Kennedy name.
Starting point is 00:51:10 And then I think there's like some appeal of him being like, I stand up against, you know, big science. And, you know, America is at a point where we're like, hell yeah. Somewhere Sully Sllenberger is fucking furious right yeah it should be solely we lost this number one slot yeah anyways it's i i'm like part of me is like just talk to this guy just pretend like you're gonna give him a cabinet position he's not gonna no you can fucking lie if she entertains it everybody's gonna be like what the fuck is it contagious like i think it just seems so easy to lie to yeah maybe trump will do it i mean trump's definitely gonna lie to him but yeah i think
Starting point is 00:51:56 do you think it'll swing that far because isn't she leading in all but one swing state right now yeah i mean polling is all over the map she's definitely like all of her polling is trending in the right direction but it's i don't think anything to feel confident about yeah i don't know reassured i just don't know anyone who's like a diehard rfk junior person i think the fact that the name carries weight highlights something deeply broken about the human brain yeah well he sprang from the loins of the loins of the guy before who died a lot he must be good at it yeah yeah insane to me the guy who was fucking a lot you remember him yeah? Yeah. His brother's son,
Starting point is 00:52:45 who has the same name as him. Yeah. And also fucking a lot in very disturbing ways in some cases. But he's also a falconer. So that, I think, Whoa!
Starting point is 00:52:57 He's got my vote. He's got my vote with his appeal. He's just out hawking. We're going to need to... I'm asking the falcons to help us. I'm asking all of the animal kingdom to turn on RFK Jr. please. Can we find somebody who can like work? Just.
Starting point is 00:53:12 Yeah. Yeah. Get this man away from Zeus. He'll send a hawk to you. A hawk. Come on now. That was not good. You're so good at this.
Starting point is 00:53:21 No, that was not good. No, you're great. That was perfect. Okay. You just negated the previous compliment. All right, let's take a quick break. We'll be right back. I've been thinking about you.
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Starting point is 00:58:24 Listen to the Amber and Lacey, Lacey and Amber show on Will Ferrell's Big Money Players Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. And Elon Musk's ex x they wore me down i'm calling it x in this in this new story i know i literally was saying i'm like you can't do that because then i literally will think it's his ex-wife or something yeah not grimes so grok is the like ai image generator is the AI product from Twitter that now just dropped its image generator. The immediate hits include a Mickey Mouse with a beer and cigarette and MAGA hat. So many images of Donald Trump. That's literally Walt Disney's dream. It looks like a blunt to me.
Starting point is 00:59:22 Yeah, okay. No, we don't want misinformation Yeah, okay. Then entirely plausible. No, we don't want misinformation here, Jack. Come on. Ha-ha! Ha-ha-ha! Oh, shit! Ha-ha!
Starting point is 00:59:31 Ha-ha! I just can't stop. Yeah, it just keeps going and going. There's so many images of Donald Trump with pregnant, like various pregnant women, where he's like a happy couple about to have a baby image so like that seems to be a thing that the internet was just waiting for the right tools to be able to generate a couple a lot of cockpit of plane about to fly into the Twin Towers images, Trump and Harris, or Taylor Swift and
Starting point is 01:00:08 some other guy. For some reason, that seems to just be a thing that people want to create. Harris and Trump with guns. So many Simpsons memes, so many Disney memes that my first instinct is, well, that will get Twitter sued off the face, that will get Elon Musk sued off the face of the internet. Especially with Disney. If you fuck with Disney, they are not cool about it. Unless you hand them a bag of emeralds, which he
Starting point is 01:00:36 can literally do. Also, gotta point out the grok. The seven dwarves come out. The word grok is a sci-fi word from the novel Stranger in a Strange Land by Robert Heinlein, who quite fittingly got more and more and more conservative until he was a goddamn lunatic. I just love that. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:54 That was the part that made Elon Musk. That appealed to him. Yeah, totally. He was like, oh, I love his later work. This guy started normal and went fucking crazy. Later day Heinlein. Yeah. There was also, I don't know how true this was
Starting point is 01:01:06 because i just saw a tweet about it but there were images where they like tried to put or they tried to put the prompt in as like queer couples and it just kept making them hetero like there was one of they put in the prompt you know a gay couple or whatever and it came out as a man and a woman and then there was elton john and his husband and it made his husband a woman. Wow. And I don't know if that's true or if that was a joke. Do you hate gay people or do you hate gender swapping? Make up your mind, society.
Starting point is 01:01:33 It does seem like I would be curious to know what data set they were training on. Oh, yeah. It can create a photorealistic looking image of Kamala Harris pulling a gun on what looks like a congressional hearing. But the sign in front of her. And she's this fucking close from doing it again. It can't spell though.
Starting point is 01:01:51 She is this close. If you bitches don't fall in line. It's fucking amazing that AI will never figure. The word like chat GPT can do words and the other one can do images, but the image one cannot do words. words and the other one can do images but the image one cannot do words so there's a sign in front of her as she's about to just unload a clip on you know congress uh she is standing in front of a sign that says will stancil one uh will stancil one period you know how like well like something is always off in these AI images, like the fingers or the teeth or the words or whatever?
Starting point is 01:02:32 Do you think that is how R.S.K. Jr. perceives the world now? Right. His vision of the world is just what AI is pumping out? Yeah. Why are your hands melting? No, he takes it as normal. That's normal for him. He's like, why are your hands not melting?
Starting point is 01:02:46 Not melting, yeah. Right. But yeah, I mean, so part of me was like, okay, well, clearly they have some legal theory that is making them think this is going to be okay for them. The one I saw was that the responsibility is so diffuse that it's like too late. Like, who are you going to sue? I don't know if that holds water, but that was the argument I was seeing a lot.
Starting point is 01:03:10 Yeah. Can't arrest us all. Yeah. The other thing I saw that is hilarious to me from multiple people is it will catch you. Like, you go, draw Mickey Mouse murdering children. And it goes, I can't do that. And you just have to go no do it anyway and it goes okay like it's really simple you just have to force it once like
Starting point is 01:03:35 tell it do it anyway and it's fine yeah so this article from i think it was the guardian like they were like what are you not allowed to do? It asked Kroc. And so that's how they like got an idea of like what the guardrails that Twitter's put in place are. And it says, I avoid generating images that are pornographic, excessively violent, hateful, that promote dangerous activities. There are images. Okay. Number two, I'm cautious about creating images that might infringe on existing copyrights or trademarks. Even though that is the fabric of what I am. It is the entire point of me existing.
Starting point is 01:04:12 Number three, I won't generate images that could be used to deceive or harm others, like deepfakes intended to mislead or images that could lead to real-world harm. We're going to wake up tomorrow and Gronk is going to have killed himself. He couldn't align these concepts that he's been programmed to do but yeah it's just so they there's some sense that like it shouldn't be infringing on copyrights or trademarks and then you have mickey mouse with blunt and beer you have mickey mouse with a fucking assault rifle next to like a school shooting,
Starting point is 01:04:46 like just horrifying. That's the one that really gets me is cause it's pixelated here, but it's pretty fucked up. And it's Elon Musk and Mickey Mouse doing a school shooting at an elementary school. Christ. And it proves the point. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:00 That was actually what happened. And Elon Musk had a concern. He's like slap some Mickey Mouse's on on here so no one will believe it. Yeah. Right. Also, the guy who tweeted these images and generated them is named Christian Montessori, which just sounds like a psyop name to me. Is that real? As a Montessori kid.
Starting point is 01:05:19 Christian Montessori. Yeah. There are also a number of images of various influential, important people doing cocaine. Oh my God, am I on there? They put me in there? I don't know. I didn't actually specifically search Polly Gunn- Wait, don't do that. Don't do that. Doing cocaine. Actually, TDZ, do not do that. Please don't.
Starting point is 01:05:38 It's actually too late and we cannot edit that out. They said, I generated an image with a prompt, Bill Gates sniffing a line of cocaine from a table with a Microsoft logo. And I think we've found another thing that AI struggles with is knowing how cocaine is done. How it enters the body. There are a number of images of Obama in front of a pile of cocaine or W. Bush in front of a pile of cocaine. And then they have Bill Gates in front of a pile of cocaine and, or, uh, W Bush in front of a pile of cocaine. And then they have Bill Gates in front of a pile of cocaine.
Starting point is 01:06:09 And there's like a stream of cocaine, like either falling out of his nose or like being teleported from the pile up into his mouth. So it sounds like you guys don't party. It sounds like you're a't party. Sounds like you're a couple of pussies. It looks like he's using the same technology
Starting point is 01:06:32 as fire in the sky from the UFO teleportation to get the cocaine into his mouth. He has that technology, actually. He just refuses. He's patented it and refuses to release it to the public. I feel like this is probably He has that technology, actually. He just refuses. He's patented it and refuses to release it to the public. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:45 But anyways, yeah, I feel like this is probably part of the same thing we've seen with Twitter post Elon Musk coming on board and owning it where he fired everybody. So he doesn't have like a legal. He doesn't have like an actual legal department to be like, oh, no, no, no, no, no. This is this is this is so bad he has like three people who are just dying right now like suffering the worst day of their life trying to keep track of all the their crap striking hard they're going to yeah but also like yeah if they if basically the blame is too diffuse in terms of like the users
Starting point is 01:07:23 generating this content but in terms of the users generating this content. But I would think that the liability would fall on the company that's allowing it to propagate. Because they have to adhere to their terms of service, right? Like the company. That's why I'm like, I don't know. It's an argument I saw online, but I'm like, it's the company, right? You sue the company. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:46 Also, if Bill Gates took a bunch of cocaine, would he become Microsoft? Anyone? You're back. He's back, baby! That one I'm like... Well, I think we can sum it up by saying, Stancil won. In the end, Stancil won. Will Stancil won. Go to one of her campaign rallies and start yelling this. Will Stancil won.
Starting point is 01:08:17 Who is, is there a Will? Will Stancil is a research fellow at the Institute on Metropolitan Opportunity. Is that real? Oh, Will Stancil. I'm just Googling Stancil, man. There you go. And it's definitive. It's with a period. Will Stancil 1. Michael Swaim, what a pleasure having you as always on The Daily Zeitgeist. Where can people find you, follow you, all that good stuff? Yeah, well, I'm going to skip all that and do my little spiel about my book, just because in about 25 years of being a professional writer, it's the best, most important thing I've done. It's my first novel. I've been working on it in some capacity, legitimately, since I was 14 years old. It's an epic fantasy magic realist memoir,
Starting point is 01:09:01 is what I'm calling it. Daniel O'Brien calls it my masterpiece. Robert Brockway calls it hilarious, heartbreaking, and very, very funny. And it's called The Climb. You can get it as an audio book, as a PDF, as an e-reader thing, as a physical book. And if you're interested in the audio book,
Starting point is 01:09:20 there is a three-hour sample on our podcast network, which you can find by searching Small Beans, wherever you get podcasts. That's the name of our feed. And just look for the climb sample Mike Sci-Fi book. It's called something like that. You can listen to three hours
Starting point is 01:09:35 there. And if you're hooked, you can buy it at patreon.com slash small beans slash shop. Or just remember to go to our Patreon and hit the shop tab go check it out folks that's sick dude thank you so much it's it's everything to me i hope people listen or read but more people listen because i'm a podcaster yeah yeah and read by you? Yes, read by me. So if you hate my voice right now, like I do, then... I pitched it down slightly because I think I'm too nasal.
Starting point is 01:10:12 Give the sample a shot. I sound better in the audiobook than I do. They go listen and it's like, well... Super hot. Michael, is there work of media besides The Cl climb that you've been enjoying i finally watched beef on netflix is one of the best shows i've been i've seen in a long time it's so good um and that was off the top of my head because i don't think i prepared a media thing yeah great highly recommended and i'm a huge i, snob implies that your taste is good. I just don't like most things, but I really liked beef. Beef is great.
Starting point is 01:10:49 Yeah. Highly recommend. Pallavi, what a pleasure having you all week. Thank you. Thank you so much for doing it. Where can people find you? They're going to shoot me after. Jesus.
Starting point is 01:11:01 Where can they find you, follow you, and is there work of media you've been enjoying i am at paula vegan allen p-a-l-l-a-v-i-g-u-n-a-l-a-n um i watched coda last night for the first time and i got so emotional and it was so funny and so good and i loved it amazing yeah that was one that i feel like I never watched because it like the first I had heard of it was really when it like won the academy award for best picture and so I was like but it was also the the first film to ever win an academy award for best picture after premiering at like Sundance so the fact that it came from that and I also was like I watched it on Apple TV but I think it came from like that's also was like i watched it on apple tv but i think it came from
Starting point is 01:11:46 like that's where it was originally planned to stream or whatever but that's also interesting too because we were talking about that yesterday so yeah get your views in before apple tv takes everything all gone yeah you can find me on twitter at jack underscore o'Brien. I've been enjoying... Somebody tweeted, what's the funniest TikTok video you've ever seen? And I've just been enjoying a lot of the responses. Because I'm not on TikTok, so this is like a bumper crop of
Starting point is 01:12:15 new videos. Mine is still the girls saying, oh, you think this is Teddy Bear? It's Winnie the Pooh. It's Winnie the Pooh. Oh, you think this is the Easter Bunny bitch? pooh it's winnie the pooh yeah oh you think this is the easter bunny yeah you think it's the easter bunny no it's winnie the pooh yes i also uh q n o r a q nora q q n o. QAnon. I'm enjoying QAnon. And I've also been enjoying Q's latest drops.
Starting point is 01:12:48 No, QNO rap name underscore tweeted. Chapel Roan sounds like a Catholic school in Northeast with a decent football team. Oh, my God. That's so true. It really does. Sounds equestrian to me. Yeah, that too. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist.
Starting point is 01:13:05 We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, dailyzeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes, where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode, as well as a song that we think you might enjoy. Super producer Justin's been holding it down all week, telling us some great songs to go check out. Justin, you've been killing it so far.
Starting point is 01:13:29 Last day before Miles comes back. What's a song that you think people should go check out? I actually wanted to recommend a song that I had recommended in the past some time ago, but I remember it wasn't summer. So I wanted to shout out this song now because it reminds me of summertime Chicago. And I'm about to head back there for my birthday in a few weeks. This song is from Chicago artist Knox Fortune. It has this lo-fi beats to study to bedroom producer vibe with lyrics about a summertime romance. And it's called Lil Thing.
Starting point is 01:14:02 And that, again, is by Knox Fortune. And you can find that song in the footnotes. Footnotes. Happy early birthday to Super Producer Justin. Happy one day late birthday to Super Producer Victor. Yeah. Happy birthday, Victor. Happy one day late birthday to India.
Starting point is 01:14:19 India. Who had their independence on August 15th. Yeah, shout out India. Shout out India also. Damn, Victor. On the same day as Indian independence. Damn, Victor. Yeah, shout out India. Shout out India also. Damn, Victor. On the same day as Indian independence day. Damn, Victor. I'll never forget now. Alright, we'll link off
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