The Daily Zeitgeist - Venmo Money Venmo Problems, Prime Union Busting 4.12.21

Episode Date: April 12, 2021

In episode 855, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian Fizaa Dosani to discuss how to convince Republicans to get vaccinated, more Matt Gaetz updates, the capital police investigation, Amazon workers v...oting on unions, and more!FOOTNOTES: America may be close to hitting a vaccine wall Gaetz Paid Accused Sex Trafficker, Who Then Venmoā€™d Teen Nameless Mass Of Women From Gaetzā€™s Office Vouch For His Professionalism Second staffer for Matt Gaetz has resigned: report Capitol Police IG Finds More Failures Behind Lack Of Preparation Before Attack Amazon Workers Vote Down Union Drive at Alabama Warehouse LISTEN: Billy Woods + Kenny Segal ā€œSpongebob" Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:49 We're your hosts, Viosa and Mala. You might recognize us from our first show, Locatora Radio. Listen to SeƱora Sex Ed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hello, the internet, and welcome to season 180, episode one of your daily zeitgeist. you get your podcasts. But now that it's season 180, we're going full right wing, baby. Going for the kipper, motherfucker. It's Monday, April 10th, 2021. My name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. Please check this box and also this one, too. All caps are screaming at you.
Starting point is 00:02:43 And they are all yellow. That is courtesy of Christy Yamaguchi-Maine in reference to the NRCC's fundraising tactics. And I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray! That's right, it's Miles Gray, a.k.a. GMX. You know, from the hit single, The Puff Riders Anthem. From his debut album, it's dark and the valley is hot rest in peace to dark man x earl simmons dmx that yeah it's just awful awful addiction is a terrible thing and please check in on everybody you know uh just everybody no
Starting point is 00:03:17 matter what it's always good to just know where the people you love and care about are at so yeah please check in and rest in peace, DMX. Yeah, please. RIP DMX. And we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by the brilliant, the hilarious, the talented, Fizzo Dosani! Thank you. Thank you. I'm thrilled to be here, quite frankly.
Starting point is 00:03:40 I'm thrilled to have you. You're so chipper today. You were saying before we got on mic, you're like, I'm so chipperipper i don't know what's going on with me you call me chipper jones yeah i just woke up on the right side of the bed miles it was hey we like to hear that on this show the right side not the left side thank you sir i'm telling you i was like doing plies and shit like why wow what's going on were you feeling you just you coming out of a funk? You just always on top of the world? What's the secret?
Starting point is 00:04:09 I'm pretty moody, so maybe I'm sort of coming out of something. It's a good day. Yeah, I love it. I love it. Please, pass the chips over here.
Starting point is 00:04:22 Yes, please. Pass the chips. You get Doritos and you get Fritos Oh I love both Especially their chili cheese What about Tostitos What's going on with this Tostitos erasure
Starting point is 00:04:34 Well you mean for dipping Like the scoops Tostitos scoops You know I prefer like a real straight up Like hard fried corn tortilla Type tortilla chip yeah you know i'm a heavy uh salsa bitch i i really like to go in for the salsa so those scoops are the only thing that can satisfy me sometimes you just have a bowl of salsa right just exploding in my mouth
Starting point is 00:04:59 with every chip that was evocative i apologize and because this is a right wing podcast what's your favorite salsa what's your off hey jack what's your favorite authentic mexico salsa ragu bro even worse it's pasta sauce you've mistaken ketchup motherfucker oh you know how we do it little uh arkansas salsa ketchup and oregano yeah old el paso used to be the my shit but now now it's pace picante oh yeah pace is the one that right new york city yeah uh new york city is a little too uh left wing for me. So I go with that. Heinz ketchup made in the blue collar. Pittsburgh Steelers. That's right.
Starting point is 00:05:52 Yeah. Douse your primities in it, which I Steelers. I used to watch before all this politics got brought into our NFL football. All right. Back when Terry Bradshaw was running the show. All right. Yeah. Enough of this shit. It's hard to
Starting point is 00:06:07 keep it up. We were joking that we were gonna on season 180, we were gonna do a 180 and go right wing. Fizza, you didn't deserve any of this. We apologize. No. Or the confusion. Yeah, but you know what? It makes me stronger. Yeah, exactly. It didn't kill me. I'm here and
Starting point is 00:06:23 you know what? Yeah, but you don't need you don't need more idiot men giving you more like forged in the fires of a bad bit from idiot men all right fizz we're gonna get to know you a little bit better in a moment first we're gonna tell our listeners a couple of the things we're talking about we're talking about the new phase of vaccine rollout that we are in uh that's probably going to be extra infuriating. This one is all about convincing reluctant Republicans to get vaccinated. And also, I will add to that, keeping them the fuck away from the rest of us. We're going to do our new favorite.
Starting point is 00:07:00 We got it. We got to get a sting for this. The Gates updates. I don't even know. Yeah. I think it's really lock the gates. The Gates updates? I don't even know. Yeah. I think it's really lock the gates. Lock the gates. It's lock up the gates is really what it should be.
Starting point is 00:07:11 Lock up the gates! We're going to talk about a Capitol Police Inspector General being like, wow, this was not handled well at all. We're going to talk about uh amazon uh defeating a push for workers rights or as the new york times put it amazon workers defeat a union at an alabama warehouse uh so they so it was the workers it was really a story of the of the people rising up to defeat the evil powers of unionization yeah yeah shout yeah. Shout out to the New York Times. We're going to talk about whether Biden is restarting construction of Trump's wall.
Starting point is 00:07:51 We're going to talk about that new Roe v. Wade movie that nobody's talking about, but that just came out. Wait, the one with the MyPillow guy? He's probably in it it seems like they uh were you know using the conservation of conservative celebrity yeah method of casting when we when we first talked about it at first wasn't like one of the last shots like mike lindell like in a fucking bobcat or like a backhoe tearing down a planned parenthood orood or something? Probably. Why do I have some idea of this happening in some film? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:08:28 It's co-directed and stars Nick Loeb, who is the dude who... Sofia Vergara's... Yeah, Sofia Vergara's ex who sued her for having any autonomy over her own reproductive health. He sued. It was really a new level of right-wing fuckery. So we'll talk about that, all of that, plenty more. But first, Fizza, we like to ask our guest,
Starting point is 00:08:52 what is something from your search history that is revealing about who you are or what you're up to? So my last interesting Google search was cyclothymic disorder versus bipolar because maybe that'll explain a little bit why I'm chipper and moody. Last interesting Google search was cyclothymic disorder versus bipolar. Because maybe that'll explain a little bit why I'm chipper and moody. So I've been treated for cyclothymia for a while now. And I'm on Clubhouse now.
Starting point is 00:09:21 I don't know if you guys are familiar with that app. Oh, yeah. I mean, I'm familiar with all the notifications all the notifications saying fizza is up here uh on uh housing the club you you're all over that mine's always about swizz beats and just blaze talking about nfts i'm always telling you like okay i guess again yeah a marathon yeah i gotta figure out how to turn everything into an nft but like um i mean can i turn cyclothymia into an nft yeah at this point yeah but um yeah i was in like a room about like bipolar like there's a lot of mental health rooms and a lot of the people in there
Starting point is 00:09:58 were bipolar and i know that there is sort of a relationship between these two conditions, except cyclothymia is it's less intense. So it's like a, it's a more functional bipolar, but like, I think you, there's a lot of mood swings, you know, but yeah,
Starting point is 00:10:14 I just wanted to come in informed. Yeah. Right. Right. Right. Is like, are those, have those rooms been like,
Starting point is 00:10:20 are they somewhat orderly? Because every, I've been to ones that start off, not that they're like by design just turn into like absolute nonsense but there's something about the way the rooms are structured and if there's like no real moderation process involved it can very quickly turn into just like utter chaos nonsense but i'm imagining in a space like that there it's it's run pretty efficiently dude a hundred percent like the best ones are the ones that are like,
Starting point is 00:10:45 I mean, if there's not a professional, a health professional on stage, it's like no one's here to fix anyone. It's literally just here to share our own experiences. That sort of thing. Right, right. Yeah. So those are the best run ones, I think.
Starting point is 00:10:59 I feel like those are the ones I can bear to listen to the longest, which are groups groups of like shared interests coming together or communities to just like discuss stuff because when it turns into like celebrity turn up as like the attraction point and then like random people hopping in i'm immediately like no no no no because yeah it seems like that's that's probably like to me i've seen like the biggest benefit of that as an app is like be able to create those spaces sort of instantly. And the best thing is, is if a space feels janky, you just hit that leave quietly button. With the peace sign.
Starting point is 00:11:33 Yeah. I love hitting that. I don't understand how people do big goodbyes and then hit leave quietly. Like, what are you doing? No, no, no. Just, oh, thanks. I'm out. I'm out.
Starting point is 00:11:42 I'm off this. I'm off this. Goodbye. Just announce it. Yeah. But I'm digging Clubhouse out i'm off this i'm off this goodbye just announce it yeah but i'm digging clubhouse like i'm in all kinds of rooms i was in a dmx memorial room right before this oh wow and just someone playing tunes yeah like some people were talking about like you know memories of when you know back in the day when he came out and they were playing some songs, people were crying. I'll ping you guys so you can get more notifications.
Starting point is 00:12:08 Yeah, please. Bing me. Bing me. When you're in a room on Clubhouse, are you usually participating? Do you sometimes just sit back and passively just listen? How often? What's your style in the club? Yeah, what's your ratio like there?
Starting point is 00:12:24 Well, I'm pretty good at reading the room. and like what would the what's your style in the club yeah what's your ratio like there well i'm pretty good at reading the room and it also depends on like if i have a role as a moderator or not or if i'm like the person who started the room so if i started the room i'd have more more control of the room responsibility for setting the culture of the room um or sort of a right to tell people to you know not interrupt each other right yeah like i can run it but like you know sometimes i'm in other people's rooms and you know like if they bring me up to stage like i'll usually accept unless it's like some some ridiculous title and i'm sure you've seen some like real clickbaity rooms so then i'll just read the room read the stage and if they want me
Starting point is 00:13:02 to like contribute or if i feel like i can i will um i do comedy shows on there a lot which is more of like my lane the mental health and all that stuff is just interest and um you know i have a lot of curiosity about a lot of things i wish i got into stem you know why did i major in english and film like what's wrong why what did for what the patriarchy yeah you know like simple acts so i go into those rooms fine i mean i want to be more financially literate so there's so much there um there's drama rooms like there's some ratchet wait what's a ratchet drama room there's story lines because it's a community and it's a relatively small community since the apps in beta. Right. So there are there's a lot of personalities and not regular no regulation.
Starting point is 00:13:50 It's all self regulation. So and then also people get an audience by playing out drama on stage and creating rooms about, you know, things that are going on. So there's some clout chasing. Right. There's there's also some multi-level marketers so just be careful don't don't yeah fall into a pyramid scheme right yeah yeah don't let just blaze convince you that you can grow your hair back with playstation it's a lie facts what what are the so the drama rooms are they like talking shit about other people who are on clubhouse like basically is that what a drama room is yeah a lot of times so
Starting point is 00:14:31 there's different pockets and different communities in the larger community so there's some people who you know they're they have a tendency to be a little more emotional more regularly on stage and and emotions run high so if someone feels you know offended or disrespected they'll sometimes create a spin-off room and sometimes they will use people's first names they used to use first and last but they they changed i think they said you can't do that anymore and there's the room and then the fuck what's happening in that room room that's like off to the side and then the fuck what's happening in that room room that's like off to the side and then sometimes there's a response to that and there's different spinoffs like different rooms talking about what happened and everyone will have like a different take and
Starting point is 00:15:15 right and it's just it's pretty wild and right i think i've been so active on the app that i know a lot of people so i get pulled up on stage fairly regularly. And it's like, you know, sometimes I'm just like, I don't I don't need to be on this stage because it's like, you know, I've had my first 24 hours on the app. Someone kind of attacked me and I did not know what was going on. Like I was very confused because I was like I don't know you but right yeah that was sort of my introduction into clubhouse like someone literally came for me like I'd been on the app for four hours and I think I was in another room and there's already a room they're like fuck fizzle the room
Starting point is 00:16:02 I'm saying I was like how first and last name really right really no no that didn't happen but um you know like that's what like that's that's like intense can you imagine like going on the app and seeing like 400 people in a room that's like fuck they don't even know you they're like man, Dasani really should have left the carbonated water alone, man. Fuck the Fizzle Dosani shit, man. Bottom shelf shit. Yeah. Like what?
Starting point is 00:16:30 What is something you think is overrated, Fizzle? Overrated? I was going to say, or I am going to say pre-pandemic society. Like I'm excited to see where we go after this. But like the way things were prior to the pandemic, I have a lot of issues with. And I think a lot of those, you know, over the last few years, those cracks in the system are no longer cracks. You know, they're big fucking gaping holes. I'm tired of the rat race.
Starting point is 00:16:57 Yeah. I'm tired of sort of like feeling like, you know, self-care is not a priority because it you know we gotta hustle hustle hustle hustle you know i want to do both right and i hate traffic i don't want to be stuck in la traffic anymore like i like this live stream stuff yeah yeah it feels better feels i mean it's easy for for the people who don't like to drive it's been a blessing oh yes some level how are they gonna get people that like what is the point gonna be when employers are just like yeah we we want to have you guys back at the office but like there's no real reason to be back at the office like how we just proved we don't need offices right yeah i was just talking to a friend of mine who's like god i would love
Starting point is 00:17:43 it if they just made this permanent but he doesn't think they're going to and it's just like why why wouldn't you uh other than just like i don't know didn't salesforce just abandon their building in san francisco yeah they're like yeah actually we built that big ass thing on like the near the embarcadero but uh we're not really gonna use that anymore right yeah yeah so what do you do with these big phallic symbols of your collective capital yeah and you know what's so nuts about here in la is that we already have so many empty buildings from scientology right but they're not supposed to admit that they're empty they're like no there's all million of our followers are in there right now just uh you saw through the blinds,
Starting point is 00:18:25 through a telescope from across the street. Oh no. Yeah. What you spot with that level is where we have spider webs, uh, doing a lot of the work, uh, on behalf of the organization.
Starting point is 00:18:34 That's why those spider webs are all in there. They're there. Actually, I interviewed a woman who, uh, just kind of did a book on a bunch of different American cults. And at one point she basically showed up and was like i would like to go to church today in like to a scientology thing and they were like what the fuck like there
Starting point is 00:18:53 was like a big scramble behind the scenes they're like she wants to go to church what do we do so they like brought out somebody and they did a individual church service for her and there was nobody else in the building who wasn't like working there it was just completely empty but like the whole thing is like putting up this facade like it's a place that people actually voluntarily want to be yeah and a ton of people are involved yeah look at them look at them go what is something you think is underrated? I have two things. The first one, I think, I'll just quickly say, I think DMX prior to his passing,
Starting point is 00:19:33 I think a lot of artists do get, you know, they're more celebrated posthumously. Yeah. And I just, you know, it's, I mean, he's an OG. You know, he's a pioneer in the game. He's so talented. How many hits did he have? And he's unique.
Starting point is 00:19:52 Yeah, so unique. Put other rappers on as well. He has a legacy. And I know because he had his health issues, and I do say health issues because that's how addiction should be treated. You know, I think the society is very cruel, and oftentimes when people are in vulnerable situations like that, they become the butt of jokes. that they become the butt of jokes so you know now i think people are you know after the guy is so sick and then passed it's like he's being celebrated but i think he should have been celebrated you know is yeah yeah he's a he's a he has a very unique place, too, because I think. Alongside just his like very clear charisma and things like that, there was something about how he projected his personality through rap that transcended a lot of the weird. I mean, granted, yes, like he he's an OG of also the most some of the most toxic shit I've ever heard a rapper say, without a doubt.
Starting point is 00:21:05 Things I'm laughing now, like, oh, you wrote that down and said that. But after a while, as you really kind of look at his life in its totality, you realize from childhood, he had been in and out of correctional facilities and juvenile detention and things like that because he was he was trying to survive on his own if you listen to the talib quali interview he did last year there are moments where he is so open about things he has been through that when you really look at it you're like oh right everyone just thought oh he's the dog like oh wow but truly like it was a very broken human being who had to adopt a much more aggressive persona i think to sort of hide his own pain but within that like he was able to also express which is oddly enough he needed sort of the language of this like hyper masculinity to be emotional and he was able to do that in a way that didn't get him you know people would be like oh he's soft because he's crying on stage and shit but he cried on stage and people felt that
Starting point is 00:22:10 shit like in the early 2000s um and i think there's a lot to be said about you know sort of like those elements of his work and like yeah of course you can there's nobody has a legacy that's completely pristine but i think with with this one for sure i think we just took him as like an energy vibey rapper but as i kind of reflect more i'm thinking of like the things that actually pulled me in and i think it was how because he was so emotionally transparent on top of like just being a great performer but i think it was he was able to be uh vulnerable in a way that like a lot of like rappers really weren't at the time. So, yeah, he communicated more like in the intros, like before he started rapping, just like the build up was like so much just energy and pathos.
Starting point is 00:22:59 And yeah, like just that dude's spirit, that dude's energy is like because I mean, there was like the flex culture of like, yeah, look at me, what I got or whatever. And like, you know, I'm with this, this, that, and the other woman who, whatever. But it was a lot more about like just dark shit that he was going through. It wasn't as much of like the, it wasn't as material. I mean, later on, I think he started making more like party albums and things like that, or, you know, tracks slightly different. But at the end of the day, I think that's really what I think was for me interesting, because he's coming up in the time where like Hard Knock Life or Bad Boy is sort of dominating the sound, which is all materialism. in a tank top wearing a like chain like a literal like chain link as like a fucking jewelry and you're like oh oh okay i just remember an ex gonna give it to you when he was when he said fight
Starting point is 00:23:52 these tears i was like huh that's yeah you want to fight me fight these tears you're like oh huh wow yeah that's like that's dark that's uh that's emotional yeah he's an artist he really is an artist and like in terms of having a pristine legacy i mean we're human humans are no humans perfect right but um he he's he's an artist yeah he's artists thrown through and you can just tell from the amount of people that showed up when he was on his deathbed like it's it's weird you know we've lost a lot of artists before but it's interesting when you can actually like you can begin to measure truly like from the output of like people sharing memories or like moving into physical space to be near it is is a huge thing so yeah sad to see him. Yeah, he's only only 50. Young, 50 years young. Rest in peace. Yeah, it's a it's a tough time for, you know, I just anecdotally I know people who are passing because of suicide and drug drug addiction, like more more than I feel like I've ever like kind of just anecdotally like not not like close friends of
Starting point is 00:25:06 mine but close friends of close friends and it just seems like the the pandemic has taken a toll and just in general the the fact that like fizzy you said these are illnesses that people aren't willing to treat as illnesses um that like those things are taking a toll especially in america you'll see i mean and you hope that these are the kinds of moments that can hopefully shift move uh prod the culture to move forward a little bit to be like if if you're gonna if you're willing to say the addiction was a tragedy when they're dead you have to be able to to have that same empathy and energy for someone from the onset. It can't just be like, Oh, he a crackhead. Right. And then it's over
Starting point is 00:25:51 there. Because I think that, I think that was a lot of the discourse, especially in the last sort of 10 years or so when he really had kind of fallen off where people just were like, Oh, he's an afterthought. Like, you know, he did that to himself when it, when it's so funny, because most of us know we have examples of addiction and that struggle in our lives that we are very much invested in the wellness of that person but with celebrities it's like this thing it's like well fuck you till you die and then when you die oh what a shame right yeah yeah all right let's take a quick break and we'll be right back. I've been thinking about you.
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Starting point is 00:30:24 Apple Podcasts podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts and we're back and uh let's talk about this new phase of the vaccine so va or no axios one of those uh x names x gonna give it to you yeah yeah x gonna give it to you knock knock open up the news for real uh one of those exes had a report about how it seems like america is about to hit a wall on the vaccine front and they're gonna hit that wall we're gonna hit that wall before we have uh enough for herd immunity enough people vaccinated what do you mean a wall like in terms of supply so like we've been up to this point, we've been blowing through these vaccines
Starting point is 00:31:26 because we're hitting all the people who believe in science and want them. And we're about to, we're starting to see, especially in Southern states, signs that things are slowing down and the vaccines aren't getting into people's arms. And they're saying- What is it, Jack?
Starting point is 00:31:44 Is it the people of color who are anti-vaccine yeah funny that that's the narrative because it seems like it's actually uh the people who are in favor of white supremacy openly uh it seems like it's republicans republican leaning uh evangelical christians in the. It seems like it's those specific groups. Republicans are not wanting to get the vaccine, not trusting of the vaccine. And not shocking, but I guess this is the first time I've heard it formulated as like, this is what we're going to be dealing with for the next handful of months is a much slower process of trying to win people over to get vaccinated or uh alternately keep them the fuck out of
Starting point is 00:32:33 like places where the rest of society is who actually got the vaccine just create a country for people who don't believe in science and then let their outcomes play out how they need to right i mean just like we say like oh you don't believe in climate change so let their outcomes play out how they need to. Right. I mean, just like we say, like, Oh, you don't believe in climate change. So let's take the people who are about to be displaced by climate change. You y'all can live there now and you can do whatever the fuck you want.
Starting point is 00:32:52 The rest of the world is going to try and be on the same page. And then when you, and don't ask us for shit. When you realize you fucked up and pick the wrong fucking, you know, ideology there. And this shit is, I was just reading an article from,
Starting point is 00:33:04 I think it was an NPR or some shit where they were talking to a Southern Baptist preacher, white, uh, evangelical, like he's, you know, like in the white evangelical scene in the South and how a lot of them are
Starting point is 00:33:14 like, a lot of preachers are kind of like, I mean, yeah, some of us are not fucking with it. And then there are definitely us who get it. Like we understand science is real. Like,
Starting point is 00:33:24 cause you know, we're the ones doing the funerals for people that die we get that there is a cost to this and this is not this isn't something to be flippant about or you know getting all cocky about and they said they've been really trying to connect the teachings of christ as a way to get people to get vaccines in terms of you know christ, Christ taught us or somewhat maybe taught 10% of us that listened that we want to look after our neighbors and that we want to do unto others as we want others to do unto us. And it's kind of like, ah,
Starting point is 00:33:58 that one's kind of hitting, but not really. And then you're like, yeah, cause this is just sort of like ego cover for their own wrongdoing. It's also a part, a version of the church that has managed to take a person who's made teaching was like, you don't want to be rich. Rich is bad. And then like Jesus wants you to be rich.
Starting point is 00:34:20 Jesus said, give me your goddamn money. I said it. Yeah. So, I mean, I don't don't know it's very it's very elastic i will say the evangelical interpretation of the of the new testament so who knows uh if that's gonna work but like that you know we we talked a couple weeks ago about israel having the passports and having the things where you can like check people and there's you know very thorny human rights questions around that but at the same time like what are we going to do when there's just a big chunk of the population enough to keep the coronavirus killing people out there who aren't willing to get the vaccine and
Starting point is 00:35:04 want to just and have never been willing to wear masks and just want to re-enter into society it's it's a kind of a thorny philosophical question i mean it's just it's i don't i guess it gets thorny because you're like it's more that you're considering the reaction of the child right yeah like fuck they're not gonna fucking like this oh fuck but it's like objectively i don't how the fuck else can you really get your like how can we how can we get a grip on that in some level and i would love to find a way to figure that out but i think like most things like where we're trying to do something that feels like the right thing it's always like well but then there's that group of fucking losers that's gonna scream about it yeah and now we're doing like some other half-assed thing but yeah i mean i don't know and it's it's
Starting point is 00:35:55 it's hard to figure out what the best way forward is with something like that i was just gonna ask what the percentage is um that we need to achieve herd immunity it It's inexact, but it's between 70% and 90%. And since we're hitting that wall, around what percentage are we at right now? So there is a study, a survey, that finds 59% of U.S. adults say they're either already vaccinated or plan to be as soon as the shot is made available to them. And then there's a
Starting point is 00:36:25 significant percentage who's like i'm gonna wait and see uh and you know the things they're waiting to see about are those things where it's too late it's too late once once the thing you're waiting to see if it happens happens it's too late so like uh yeah we're gonna be yeah to just a little we're coming up just a little bit shy of avoiding uh the deaths the avoidable deaths of a bunch of americans maybe there's a way to incentive incentivize the people who don't want to take the shots i don't know if the solution lies there i mean well yeah that's what yeah you're not gonna kill people i mean something that resonates come on i don't know here's a fucking f ford f-150 i don't the fuck do well restrictions i think the restrictions that's what i yeah that's the whole thing with the passport but too many governors already you know if you live in a
Starting point is 00:37:23 red state the governors are like hell no we're not forcing anybody to prove fucking anything to anybody. I mean, even Fauci the other day was like, we're not going to I don't think a passport's in the cards, but it's I don't know how else you disincentivize people from just not getting the vaccine and, you know, taking cover in the post pandemic world where world where it's like well we just kind of assume everybody's gotten it because 60 of us have gotten it and they're just out there you know uh putting the rest of the country in danger with their uh shitty politics just fucking make the just look this is where disney is gonna have to take the L and say, nobody's getting fucking in here unless you're vaccinated. Right. Because again, they're not going to boycott. Here's the thing.
Starting point is 00:38:11 They're incapable of boycotting anything because they don't have values that they actually stand by. It's all empty threats to just keep the fucking adults and being like, oh, fuck, they're going to hate this, aren't they? Yeah. adults and we're being like oh fuck they're gonna hate this aren't they yeah uh and you know when you look because we were talking about that one art or maybe this is when you were gone this article about how like there were people trying to convince their conservative family members to get vaccinated and the one of the few things that seemed to work was like well we can take that trip right like ah well yeah i'd like to do that we do like vacations yeah like honestly that's like the one thing Americans like to be comfortable.
Starting point is 00:38:47 So if you take away these other just like slightly rearrange things that maybe like if airlines, if three companies do it, then that might end up getting you to that an extra 20%. But I don't know what airlines around that bush of like just trying to like raising the possibility of doing like making sure that you're vaccinated before you fly that seems like a very obvious place that if you can't fly you can't travel on train you can't travel on bus without like having your vaccine papers then uh you that that would seem to be a pretty good incentive but but then the other i guess the other balancing act is like how do you then make the way to prove it as equitable as possible so it's not like well you don't have a smartphone right right you know what i mean because that's when that's when you instantly cut off millions of people so it's like there has yeah
Starting point is 00:39:41 it's look i'm i'm that's why i'm not jealous of whoever is in charge of this have the mint print it like use whatever technology they use for you know they're they're uh pretty worried about like people printing false 100 bills have like a yeah an equivalent of a hundred dollar bill that has that little like we get a blue face covid vaccine yeah i mean it seems like the sort of thing that we should be able to because you because they had to recently shut down uh sellers of fake vaccine proof paperwork on like etsy and uh ebay that's what i'm saying like we can fuck like we can create a a thing where you could get a audio clip of a fart authenticated to only being yours through NFTs and we can't get... Come on
Starting point is 00:40:28 now. Come on now. What's the technology that puts a blockchain on a fart? That is what I need to know. I feel like I should... You can blockchain any of that. As long as you can make it a computer file, you can blockchain anything, man. We can blockchain this podcast.
Starting point is 00:40:44 Yeah. It's... Yeah. computer file you can blockchain anything man blockchain we can blockchain this this podcast yeah um it's yeah it's it does seem like there should be a way to first of all like police that because i mean you couldn't sell uh uh counterfeit hundred dollar bills on etsy uh i've tried it does not go well yeah and so yeah let's just do the same thing with vaccine papers. Like, let's make it so that we at least have these things that authentically say whether or not you have been vaccinated. And then, you know, companies can decide how they want to. Because, again, it's the corporations that are going to end up bringing the change. Right. Because I get it. It's a slippery. You don't want the government ever being like papers, please. Although they kind of are in terms of immigration and things like that.
Starting point is 00:41:26 But on this level, slippery slope. But then you're like, hey, it's the free market, baby. If you like Buffalo Wild Wings, I hope you like Faisal, Moderna, or fucking Johnson & Johnson. Right. Yeah. And then the culture wars of will there be a, will Ruby Tuesdays or like some small like chain? Yeah, it was like, well, we welcome the maskless. We will.
Starting point is 00:41:50 Exactly. I'm telling you, that's quite that's that's I'm saying, like, it'll take a couple companies to do it. Outrage enough Republicans and some other conservative owned company will be like, oh, we would never trample on the rights of your right to infect our wage workers yeah but hey i think i always think back to that uh nike protest when uh nike signed up colin kaepernick and the right was furious and there was that dude who was wearing his nike socks while cutting the like just the logo off the ankle it's like so you're still rocking them though you're still you're still wearing them you're just like cutting them so they so you're gonna have bad blisters on your feet without that thing holding the sock up but
Starting point is 00:42:37 hey i mean whatever you got to do to cape for jefferson davis uh all right let's talk about matt gates just check in real quick with him i think the the women who work for him have put this whole story to bed uh by using the always effective uh sexual predator evidence of well there are women who he hasn't assaulted and been a creep too so therefore it must mean that he's not a creep because I mean, yeah, this I will just read this because that's always what like if you're racist, then you need someone to be like as a friend to other non whites. Yeah. And I have a few of them who will perform for me for my defense. will perform for me uh for my defense but in this case this is the the press that was the statement that came out of his office today the women of u.s congressman matt gates's official office released the following statement after the shocking allegations last week in the press we the women of congressman matt gates's office feel morally obligated to speak out also just so you know
Starting point is 00:43:46 no names are specifically signed in the statement just because it's written by matt gates oh for sure actually i just read it like this toxic fuck during congressman gates's time in office we have been behind the scenes every step of the way we've staffed his meetings we've planned his events we travel with him we have even tracked his schedule congressman gates has always been a principled and morally grounded leader at no time has any one of us experienced or witnessed anything less than the utmost professionalism and respect no hint of impropriety no ounce of truthfulness okay maybe 27 grams of it but that's a gram short of an ounce now in our office and under congressman gates's leadership women are not only respected but have been encouraged time and time again to grow achieve more and ultimately know our value
Starting point is 00:44:48 okay people have thought let me continue on every occasion he has treated each and every one of us with respect thus we uniformly reject these allegations as false that is such a fucking stretch you can't get a single one of them to sign their name to this that's yeah wild again and the final one just so you know it's really written by a conservative male congressman gates will continue to lead by example and stand for the people of america who have been maligned by the liberal elite and we will stand with him while we recognize the scrutiny we will face for making this decision we take comfort in the hope that more americans and elected officials will stand up and refuse to remain silent about what sex trafficking yeah yeah about the pictures he
Starting point is 00:45:39 was showing people sorry i had to sit back down after standing to salute after that statement. receipts that popped up to Joel Greenberg, the guy who's trafficking these young women and girls in certain instances, where Gates sent Greenberg $900. And then the next day, Greenberg is sending out $900 in different denominations to three different women. So it says the memo field for the first of Gates's transactions to Greenberg was titled, quote, test. In the second, the Florida GOP congressman wrote, hit up blank. But instead of a blank, Gates wrote a nickname for one of the recipients. When Greenberg and the Daily Beast said they're not sharing that nickname because the teenager had only turned 18 years old less than six months before this transaction. When Greenberg then made his Venmo payments to these three young women, he described the money as being for one payment, quote, tuition, one, quote, school, and the other one quote school q anon are you there can you help huh are you where's your energy q where's that energy for the for the
Starting point is 00:46:53 the child sex trafficking because or is it is it just cover for your your ignorance and white supremacist i don't know but if it help um so now two two two of his staffers have already resigned probably more at this point and he's truly now going for the defense that we saw a certain alabama secretary of state deploy last week where he says this is uh from his office matt gates has never paid for sex matt gates refutes all the disgusting allegations completely matt gates has never ever been on it he said never ever come on now has never ever been on it. He said never, ever. Come on now. Has never, ever been on any such websites whatsoever. Matt Gaetz cherishes the relationships in his past and looks forward to marrying the love of his life.
Starting point is 00:47:35 Anytime someone says like never or always, I'm like, you're already lying. Right. Never, ever. Never, ever. Ever, ever, ever. Pinky swear? He just got engaged right is that is that what honestly dude i swear my mom dude i swear on my mom i swear on my mom i'd never paid for sex bro i just fucking dude make i'll swear on fucking anything name something right now my fucking
Starting point is 00:47:55 grandma dude you know how much i love her bro i'll fucking swear on that shit okay um grandma in the crosshairs of of the universe. Of letting karma crush your poor grandma because you are a fucking sex criminal, allegedly. And also, it got even worse because news then broke that Greenberg, Joel Greenberg, he's going to make, I think he's going to take a plea deal. He's going to name names. Yeah. Yeah. So he's going to be cooperating, meaning Gates may now become the prized show horse he always wanted to be. And I just want to play this clip because Joel Greenberg's lawyer, dude, credit to this guy.
Starting point is 00:48:36 I'm just going to play this exchange where right after they talk about the plea deal happening, immediately the press is like to Joel Greenberg's lawyer. They're like, hey, hey, hey, so what do you think this means for gates and he's trying his best y'all but this is a beautiful bit of back and forth between uh joel greenberg's lawyer on the heels of announcing that they're probably gonna take a plea deal does matt gates have anything to worry about does matt gates that is such a bro um when it comes to what happened today in court. Does he have anything to worry about? And you're asking me to get into the mind of Matt Gaetz, right? Well, from your mind.
Starting point is 00:49:19 From my mind. Based on what your client knows. Based on what my client knows. It's his meeting. From my mind. Based on what your client knows. Based on what my client knows. See, I thought if I kept on talking and talking, I would avoid these questions. And not to say, I'm sure Matt Gaetz is not feeling very comfortable today. Damn. And it's wild. He also did the dumb man thing where you you know you fucked up
Starting point is 00:49:49 so you're just gonna laboriously repeat the question back what did i do last night at the club so you're asking should you be worried about what i did okay so you want me to enter the mind of you right my partner okay and land this out here because i do need let me let me just write this down real quick let me okay let me just write down um so you're the subject but i do love i have to respect that he came clean it was like i thought if i kept repeating yeah you're saying that i would run out the clock and it doesn't seem to have worked and so yeah he's fucked yeah yeah that was beautiful please you know just resign and fucking whatever i mean it's so weird too like when these staffers leave now it's like oh it wasn't the racist insurrectionist shit or
Starting point is 00:50:41 the other stuff before just weird when people draw these lines but it also shows you the nature of working in politics is like you're truly like hitching your wagon to a star and when you realize it's about to explode like you got to try and take that momentum and like hopefully it jettisons you into like another orbit but i don't know how the fuck you're gonna leave have this on your resume you might be like oh i actually didn't work from 2017 to 2021 i was just smoking mad weed that's the best you can do uh it's just like matt gates is such an idiot yeah it's really uh validating i feel like i would almost say i feel bad for white men because damn, the world reflected some dumb shit back to y'all.
Starting point is 00:51:27 You could get away with this kind of shit. And it's made you the worst criminals on earth. It's wild because for so long they get away with it. The fact that what they do because they can get away with it, it's like, oh, you're fucked up. You take pleasure
Starting point is 00:51:43 in ruining people like they're it's crazy i mean i'm thinking about like scott rudin also just because like i yeah yeah like unnecessarily cruel and exactly or it's it's purely for your own personal gratification you know what i mean it's not even about the other person it's like you're completely out of control and you're like oh that's how i just respond to shit and i do that because i'm not willing to for a second create some self-awareness or figure out like if this is the right thing it's just me indulging my fucking worst impulses constantly yeah it's so important for them to make those worst impulses a part of what like drove them to success right yeah rather than it just being you got lucky and you happen to be of a certain level
Starting point is 00:52:35 of intelligence that you were able to do this thing and you could have been nice the whole fucking time yeah or matt gates like bro you had everything right you've come from a so much wealth familial wealth like he grew up in the truman show house yeah you know that yeah okay oh literally the truman show house literally the house that they made the truman show in that they shot the truman show in oh no so he has main character syndrome oh yeah yeah yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. For sure. They've been just feeding him privilege like he's like they're trying to make foie gras, like just nonstop advantages. And he doesn't. That's that's just it's he's curdled. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Let's take a quick break and we'll be right back. Let's take a quick break and we'll be right back. I've been thinking about you. I want you back in my life.
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Starting point is 00:57:44 And it's just, I mean, it's nothing really new aside from like verifying like, uh, yeah, these assholes were truly a shit show over there. Um, like at every level.
Starting point is 00:57:55 Right. So, um, the watch quote, this is from, uh, this right up and talking points. My one says the watchdog suggests that there were a number of several
Starting point is 00:58:02 longstanding issues that the department quote either knew and did not address in time or did not address in a routine manner to prevent significant issues within the department's handling of equipment maintenance policies for the civil disturbance unit and intelligence ahead of the breaching of the Capitol. The watchdog acknowledged the failure of intelligence assessment by the department in light of a warning by the department of homeland security on december 21st that the capitol police received and then failed to act on like there was even a thing they said there was uh like equipment like some kind of uh like self-defense weaponry or whatever that the manufacturer had told them they needed to get like
Starting point is 00:58:43 training on specifically for this piece of equipment that they just didn't do for three years like on top of all this other stuff so you're like oh these people just what the like this is in short i think it was like if you watch kitchen nightmares and gordon ramsey shows up to prove that your restaurant's bullshit what he does he sets you up on that first night and just slams the kitchen with the most customers this dying restaurant has ever seen and night and just slams the kitchen with the most customers this dying restaurant has ever seen and then he just watches as the kitchen just collapses under the weight of its own ineptitude in this case trump was gordon ramsey and he set all the customers to the capital and basically they're like oh y'all found us out like we're we're bullshit actually
Starting point is 00:59:19 on top of having people who are sympathetic to all this shit within and i'm sure that's another phase of the investigation it's just crazy because it's like your one job as a unit is security and you failed like so like the negligence is are are they going well i guess they're still digging stuff up researching like investigating but is someone going to jail for this is someone being you know tried for people died yeah that was that was not i mean i think at some point yeah there could be civil suits on behalf of the people who lost their lives against like whatever the leadership was but i know you know many of them have all resigned or been fired um so they're kind of in this like i don't know you know what point they're in in their evolution, but it seems like there are definitely people who knew that it was such a shit show to begin with. And then there are people who probably just didn't give a fuck. And, you know, it leads to this. ideological content and the the fact that you had people who are sympathetic to this attack like it's just it it like a lot of what they're talking about feels like it it assumes that this
Starting point is 01:00:35 would have been the same response if the there weren't people who who liked what they were hearing right or if this had been a black lives Matter protest, I'm assuming if this were a Black Lives Matter protest, the response would have been, you know, not not insufficient. It would have the question would have been should that many of people have died? Should that many people have been killed by the Capitol Police? Not what was the Capitol Police on this one? It would have been like a kent state type shit where like and and so that like any investigation where it's just like they weren't oiling down their guns as much as they should have been and like that's where it really i'm sure that's true i'm sure it's probably at least partially because they didn't view the people who were coming as an actual threat because those people were them. They were their friends. And I think, you know, these are, this is obviously a preliminary report. And I believe this week, the inspector general is probably going to be testifying in front of Congress or like those other questions will be asked, but I have a feeling things like
Starting point is 01:01:39 those real accusations to start being like these people though i think really we need to ask questions too as during about their conduct in like the day of days leading up to because i'm that's i feel like that's like going to be the most significant part if it gets there i don't know where to to really begin pinpointing like how from like a personnel level what the failings were because it can't just be like oh you know that one officer had to fight off all those people those q anon people in the steps on the way to the the senate because you know he didn't know how to use his other taser or something no yeah i mean we've seen it from the very first episode of this show that happened i think the first like test recording we did was right after charlottesville right and
Starting point is 01:02:25 there was you just saw these like big white cops sitting in the background while a white supremacist fired shots into a crowd like and did nothing did nothing didn't respond to it like there is a deep pro like the the american law enforcement community is rotten to its core is white supremacist to its core and like not not not having that be the very first thing that we acknowledge anytime we're asking these questions is uh especially in a insurrection fucking staged by right-wing white supremacists like that's that's it just seems like it's completely putting logic on its head that's that's how this country tries to solve the problem you know because it's it's so entrenched in it it's unable to figure out how to properly unburden
Starting point is 01:03:20 itself from white supremacy so it happens through all this incremental nonsense or you know joe biden be like i don't know here deal with doj here's like a bunch of money to figure out what to do now yeah well your guns better have your uh give them training you know try and create like listen to the activists the people who are constantly butting their heads against this fucked up system as to what is how to really remedy it but of course that is this just shows you what side or how you know our leaders look at these sort of issues to be like oh i can't just make it hot for the police right it's like well do you care about the innocent people that die because of their actions rather than upsetting the people who are like i should be allowed to fucking murder undisturbed yeah yeah all right let's talk about uh the amazon uh defeat the amazon workers defeat
Starting point is 01:04:15 of the union at the alabama warehouse according to new york times they have since changed that uh changed that headline since i screencapped it this morning are these people on friday morning but yeah it's you know it's pretty wild like people weren't surprised by this right like so we've been talking just the background on this is there was a fulfillment center in alabama where people like despite it being a very anti-union area, nobody would have thought of this as the first place to unionize. But the conditions of the workers there were so bad that they started to get some momentum. So this was a big test of whether the workers were going to be able to unionize. But nobody was surprised that they
Starting point is 01:05:05 weren't successful because you're fighting against like the most well-funded entity in a system that favors the well-funded like the most well-funded entity um and and the rules favor uh the corporations uh and not the unions and have for the past 40 years. But yeah, so some of the ways that Amazon dealt with these employees' attempts to unionize, other than just being allowed to hold multiple meetings throughout a workday where employees were encouraged to go and take in anti-union propaganda, just posters. Not encouraged. They said it was mandated. Was it mandatory? I mean, I've read versions where I've seen the word mandated and required.
Starting point is 01:05:55 Yeah. So, yeah, you had to go watch that. The workplace was wallpapered with propaganda, anti-union propaganda. Just workplace was wallpapered with propaganda, anti-union propaganda. And they took pictures of employee badges when they spoke out at the union busting meetings, like in favor of the unions. If you spoke out and be like, this is horse shit. Right. They're like, what? And then someone, one person in management just would casually come up and take it, like not say anything, but clearly as a way to intimidate those people yeah yeah took down the employee directory that helped organized workers uh asked the postal
Starting point is 01:06:31 service to install a mailbox at the warehouse as a way to intimidate employees from sending in a ballot at work since it wasn't clear who actually controlled it yeah or just harvesting ballots for your pro like anti-union votes or whatever just like very messy and then the other thing um what was the fucking other one oh yeah remember they were changed they had the city change the speed of the traffic lights so organizers couldn't approach employees cars at a stoplight wow they did everything they fucking could to stop this shit and then want to be like well you know we're paying people 15 30 an hour which is higher than most places and they get all these other
Starting point is 01:07:12 things so you know beggars can't be choosers we all know that right beggars can't be choosers right it's it's wild not surprising at all and i know they're they're gonna they're gonna dispute that because of all like especially the mailbox thing there there's this it's going to be disputed but it just shows you how long yeah these kinds of things take the whole thing the whole system including the new york times and the mainstream media that gets out to the rest of the country is all tilted in their favor that's all tilted in their favor i mean i hopefully we just see more and more attempts at like this because you know people need i think granted they got blown out in the votes um but people need again it's like everything more we need to have the imagination in this country that it's possible to work collectively for better outcomes for each other yeah like that
Starting point is 01:08:02 that's just like this weird nebulous thing that not we're just not a tipping point where enough american people understand that that's a way to get shit done yeah i was i think people see competition as the way versus community whereas community what i don't there's an old proverb, I believe it's an African proverb, we can, you know, you get further together or something. If you do it yourself, you can go faster. Oh, if you run together, you can go further. But I think, but you run alone, you'll go faster, but not as far or something, I believe.
Starting point is 01:08:40 Yeah, so that, I mean, that's sort of figurative for what's going on here in terms of priorities. Like, okay, we want to look out for ourselves. But long term, look what's happening. It's like the building's crumbling and maybe yours is okay right now. But if the infrastructure around you is falling, your unit in your building is not going to stand. Right. around you is falling like your your unit in your building's not gonna stand right i don't my analogies are not as good as miles but i had to give it a shot they're hitting that was good yeah i mean just the the fact that it's not understood by most people. So a lot of the most probably anti-union people in the country, like the Trump voters,
Starting point is 01:09:31 the people on the right, all kind of romanticize this time of the 50s, the early 20th century, when there was a more robust robust middle class and they don't recognize that that was a time before like unions had been completely obliterated when like workers actually had had rights like but that it's just such a it's so completely like antithetical to what what the Central American like messaging is that like you just can't get that message out or any purchase like it won't stick to people or hasn't. I feel like we're starting to turn a corner a little bit. And I mean, you can tell just how I mean, it's the relationship between income inequality and union participation is right there for everyone to see. It's a fucking X as a line graph.
Starting point is 01:10:33 Yeah. The second it started going down, all the income inequalities began to creep up. That's why a lot of times there's a lot of people they talk about if minimum wage had kept up with ceo pay since whatever the 70s or 80s minimum wage would be something like 45 an hour right now right at minimum but you know that's that's just too much for a person to make to just move boxes around that's not how it works that's not and i think that's the relationship that not enough employers look at as them having that duty to employees because that's just how capitalism works like you don't give a fuck about their lives because you're trying to get the most out of them by paying
Starting point is 01:11:13 them as least as little as possible but fuck if more people could be like yeah actually like i pay these people to to be alive and they give me their life hours to sustain the business. And so maybe I have some responsibility to make sure that these people who are helping me, but whatever, like, look at me, I sound like some kind of common fucking communist.
Starting point is 01:11:35 Yeah. Yeah. Like for whatever reason, we just, we're not able to cross that bridge or not enough people see that, like the actual, the positivity the uh good outcomes the abundance that will come with that very short-term goals here yeah it's like the
Starting point is 01:11:54 junk food of just the central american like all of our messaging is like focus on the billionaires can the kardashians are celebrities they're billionaires the jeff bezos what's he have to say he's going to space that fucking rules elon musk the other richest guy in the country what's he have to say oh he's so cool he's a celebrity he's like you just hear like i hear people quote elon musk like he's fucking confucius and it's just the whole system is just so thoroughly shot through in the dna uh well there's like levels of willing to to look at yourself positively depending on like your ideology and how you consume media in this country one version is i want to be a celebrity because where i'm at now is a non-person and that's why i like celebrities so much, because when I get there, then I can start living
Starting point is 01:12:45 this life that I feel like is what is the cool thing that I've just been being fed through my TV or phone screen. And I think that because of that obsession, there's an utter negligence of looking at who we are as we are in the state we're in now and how to make that better rather than being like, oh, I'm just in a broke person phase where I have a job that poor people have. And then I'll get my rich person job rather than actually looking at... Everyone has the right to live comfortably and to succeed and to be supported no matter what your occupation is. i think we already like the way we rank what an occupation is is another part and parcel to how we begin to you know wag fingers be like oh i can't do that i'm above that or i'm beneath that you know what i mean it's just there's just a lot there's so many things to have to dismantle uh in terms of how you look at yourself and what it
Starting point is 01:13:38 means to fucking work um but you know but kylie and kendall are already back at mr nice guy right and drake is there too and then chris brown wrecked his porsche and he didn't even punch somebody right right okay all right well uh on that note all right well uh fuck it happy monday y'all. Have a great week. I'm probably not back tomorrow. I'm just going to go sleep for a few days. No, but it'll be okay. That's all we got to do is encourage everybody to look at shit differently, and that we can. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:14:15 I think that's the thing is it's easy to get discouraged because you look at shit like this, and Amazon and the New York Times are fucking 69ing with each other, and you're like, oh, my God. They beat the fuck that. You know what I mean? We can do this shit. It's just, we just fucking think of it,
Starting point is 01:14:30 just envision that shit first because too many people just think the shit ends with, dude, I'm not going to get that from my boss. Fuck that kind of thinking. Fuck all of that kind of thinking. That's it. That's it. No, but I mean mean it does seem like with
Starting point is 01:14:47 with the advent of like more you know like it's the one good thing about social media and like forms of media like podcasts that i feel like you know the the new york times used to be considered like well that's as left wing as you're gonna get like other than like you know zines uh that are like, well, that's as left wing as you're going to get, other than zines that are given away in cities. And now there are at least more ways for you to actually learn from people who aren't being funded by Amazon necessarily. Fizza, it's been such a pleasure having you uh as always uh where can people find you and follow you thanks for having me um i'm at fizza disani and all the platforms at um i'll go ahead and spell it for you f-i-z-a-a-d-o-s-a-n-i i know it sounds like
Starting point is 01:15:40 a carbonated beverage i don't have one. So if anyone's interested in getting... One of these days. Anyone in the water business, hit me up. If you guys want to see me perform live, I'm doing a live stream interactive virtual show on the last Friday of every month. This is our first show with Rush Tix, which is a new streaming platform,
Starting point is 01:16:01 which I think will be like sort of like Live Nation has kind of a i don't want to say monopoly but like they're on top of the live performance monopoly yeah let's just say monopoly well rush takes i think way be like a major player in the live stream world um so i'm excited to see you know how that show goes um it's going to be april 30th 8 p.m pacific time 11 p.m eastern time come through hank come hang out we like to keep it interactive and like you know the audience is part of the show as well so definitely come through if you can and if you guys want to come come all we can talk offline oh all right yeah man uh and is there a tweet or some of the work of
Starting point is 01:16:45 social media you've been enjoying? Yeah, I don't know if you guys are familiar. Do you guys know God from the God pod on Twitter? I don't think so. So he became a pal of mine through Clubhouse. It's funny because it's like being friends. You and God are tight because of Clubhouse? Yeah, because of
Starting point is 01:17:01 Clubhouse. It's crazy because it's like being friends with Borat, but not Sacha Baron Cohen. So the man behind God, I don't know. He recently posted something. Religion isn't dangerous or bad, except for when it leads to huge wars, or when people are so anti-science they refuse to take vaccines, or when they use it to justify their bigotry, probably forgetting a few things. But other than that, it's just great nailing it he sounds like seth rogan so i wish i could do it in his voice because it would have the guy the guy who is god sounds like seth rogan yeah man you gotta um i'll ping you into his next room i help him with the room called ask god anything it's like a comedy room um sometimes
Starting point is 01:17:45 satan comes in there sometimes we have a jesus um it's pretty nuts wow this is actually one god retweeted um it's by al snow and his is i just got kicked out of flat earth facebook group because i asked if the six foot social distancing had pushed anyone over the edge yet. So I giggled. Miles, where can people find you and follow you? You can find me on Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Gray and also the other podcast, 420 Day Fiance. Okay, yes, a tweet that I like is from Louis Vertel.
Starting point is 01:18:24 It says, kids today have not watched their mom break down at a blockbuster counter over an 11 late fee for little giants and it shows um and i've i not that my parents broke down but i remember like the shit where you return some shit late and then you go to rent a new one and you're like oh yeah you know you have a late fee and then i would get the look from like one of my parents because i lived by a blockbuster and i would have to go ride my bike to return it and i was like oh really i don't know and then i'm like please come on i want to watch mantis tonight uh mantis wait what is mantis mantis was on fox it was that like black superhero who had like a fucking suit of armor and shit on it the shit was not on for very long and if those that remember you fucking remember yeah i watched this this probably explains a lot about me, I watched Real American Hero, which was about a clumsy dork who was a superhero
Starting point is 01:19:28 and had a blonde afro. It was on during the day when I was four for some reason. There you go. Made you the man you are today. Yes, yes. Brody Gupta tweeted, do you think the first judge was getting his haircut during a case and that's why they wear barber capes
Starting point is 01:19:46 and the haircut was bad, which explains the wig. Shit. Makes a lot of sense to me. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, dailyzeitgeist.com
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Starting point is 01:20:20 go to? Oh man, so this is an MC that a friend introduced me to a while back called Billy Woods with producer Kenny Siegel. And you might be already up on them already. But we're going to go out on a track called SpongeBob because this whole operation underwater, fam. As he says, in the fucking. This is a really. The production's really dope.
Starting point is 01:20:42 It's got like it's very backpack backpack hip-hop vibe and you know we're feeling, we're in our hip-hop bag at the moment. So this is Billy Woods with SpongeBob. Alright, go check that out. The link will be in the footnotes. The Daily Zeitgeist, a production of iHeartRadio.
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