The Daily Zeitgeist - Victor Trendbanyama 10/6: Bison Coffeehouse, Dank Brandon, Velma, Halloween Costumes
Episode Date: October 6, 2022In this edition of Victor Trendbanyama, Jack and super producer Becca discuss the messy story behind Bison Coffeehouse's "Coffee with a Cop" event, the "Dank Brandon" meme, Velma being openly lesbian,... and the top Halloween costumes in 2022!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Hello, the Internet, and welcome to this episode of Victor Trenbinyama.
This is courtesy of Johnny Davis, a play on Victor Wembingyama,
who is a name that I don't think I even need to explain who that is,
to super producer Becca Ramos, who is joining us.
Becca, how are you doing?
Hello, I'm great. How are you?
I'm good. Are you a big Victor Wembanyama believer?
I know who this is.
I think that's...
So this is a
child, essentially. He's like
17 years old, but he is
7'4", and
clips are starting to surface
and everybody's like, oh my god,
he is the truth.
This is like the...
I'm assuming you're basketball. Basketball, yes.
Okay. Yes, yes, yes.
He's like stroking threes
from, you know, beyond
the three-point line, even though he's seven foot
four. Everybody's
very excited.
He had his premiere
in a United States game in Vegas
recently.
And it's exciting times.
So we'll see.
We'll see.
But I don't know.
I said 7'5 at one point.
There's different conversations about how tall he is.
But I don't think it matters.
He's very, very tall.
Very, very tall.
He is a whole two plus feet taller than me so yeah you know it's anyways so one thing that's trending a indigenous owned cafe in portland was vandalized by antifa
and it's just kind of a messy story with like a lot of different things going on. Yeah, I definitely saw that it was trending and I was like, oh no, what's going on in Portland?
I lived in Portland at one point for a few years.
I have quite a kinship with it, but I definitely am very critical of the history of what's been going on during COVID, all the Proud Boys stuff. I definitely have friends. All my friends have
left Portland since I moved because they were black and brown people who genuinely started to
feel unsafe in a way that they were like, I feel more safe in New York City than I do in Portland,
Oregon. It's gotten that bad. So apparently this indigenousowned coffee shop, according to townhall.com, it is one of the only indigenous-owned coffee shops in Portland called the Bison Cafe, where they were hosting a coffee with a cop event in hopes to bring the community and the police together to help with public safety and then earlier that morning at like 6 a.m
about six vandals vandalized the shop vandalized a lot of the native american artwork in the shop
for me as a woman of color who lived in portland i'm very conflicted and confused about this story
as to like and hurt in the sense of like i i can't believe, you know, it's not built for us to be bootlegging,
but the bootlicking,
so to speak,
uh,
Antifa is,
you know,
definitely proud of themselves in a sense.
It seems all the posts are very much like,
yeah,
you got him licking,
got him.
Um,
I don't know if there's any winners in this scenario especially i think there's a lot of
um conversation that this is kind of overshadowing the fact that the monotona county sheriff's
deputy shot a civilian near the lloyd center which is in east portland more towards the city
center this coffee shop is definitely deep East Portland
off of 57th Street.
And there's been like no investigation.
There's been no information about it.
We don't know if this person is alive or dead.
So it just goes to speak that Portland is continuing
to be a messy, scary place
when it comes to police brutality and corruption.
Yeah.
And the tension you were talking about,
about like between persons of color
who then fall to the right,
the conservative side of things,
I feel like, I don't know,
just looking at the outlook,
I think a lot of people think Tim Scott
will be Trump's running mate
for the 2024 election.
And that's, yeah.
So that's going to just continue
to be sort of a a thing um the
dissonance at the at the center of like what everything that they're doing you know with
yeah policy and uh basically everything else about them being white supremacists yeah ted
wheeler uh you know made a comment a statement about it saying, like, we are gonna
do our best to find
who did this and
prosecute him to the best of our ability,
blah, blah, blah. Of course,
about the coffee shop vandalization when it
involves cops, and they still have the event apparently
later that day, but
not about a civilian being
shot at the Lloyd Center, and
that to me is gross and sad and frustrating.
It is something activists are fighting to this day in Portland.
And I just hope, you know, people in Portland stay vigilant, stay safe.
I know so many areas of Portland are feeling unsafe and they obviously have such a deep
history of racism because it's the only state that literally made black people illegal.
Officially, yeah.
On paper.
That's why you don't see black people in Portland a lot of times
because they were not allowed to be there for a long time.
Right.
But, yeah.
Dank Brandon is trending.
Which, that's, I guess, a reaction to the fact that biden pardoned uh thousands of people
convicted of marijuana possession um which feels like a very straightforward correct and good move
uh you know trying to disassemble some of the war on drugs apparatus that has been proven to be white supremacist and ineffective
and should have happened already um it's also being framed as a an october surprise to win
political points like the timing so we were like wait but why isn't he doing this earlier and it's
because like the timing the optics could have been better as we got closer to the election
i mean it's it falls under the same umbrella of this student loan relief of like,
let's make Biden look as good as possible. Be vigilant, by the way, for that. Sign up for the
Department of Education emails to make sure that you sign up in time for the portal to apply for student debt relief.
They're saying it's going to become increasingly harder
come closer to November and December to receive that relief.
So just be vigilant.
This month, they're supposed to announce that.
Yeah.
There is a picture of a bunch of people who are activists
trying to get this sort of carceral system reform.
And they had a giant inflatable joint on the lawn of the White House with the words Biden.
Come on, man, written on it.
And it's a good image.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And Velma is trending.
Velma from Scooby-Doo.
Apparently in an upcoming movie, Scooby-Doo Trick or Treat, Velma is going to have a storyline where she has a crush on another woman.
And this is something that I think people just assumed that Velma was gay. And apparently Velma was modeled off of a child actor
who turned out to be one of the first gay elected officials in LA.
And just everything, it was kind of an open secret type thing.
Absolutely.
When you Google Velma uh the results come up and then
confetti and pride flags literally drop from the top of your browser um so google is celebrating
yeah you win some but i will say uh in the original like live action scooby-doo from the early aughts uh velma was supposed to be like
openly gay like the uh the makers of the movie have stated that in many interviews being like
yeah in the original script yeah in the original script as gay but between like all of the you know
studio notes and things like that by the time the movie came out it was eventually like not only just watered down but written out of
the script that she was gay so yeah and in the sequel she has a male love interest and then by
the sequel she has a boyfriend and then it's seth green yes which is like i guess that makes sense
i don't know right but i'm. I'm excited to watch it.
I have always been a big fan of the Scooby-Doo franchise
and Velma in particular.
So, yeah, what a win.
Yeah.
Conservative outlets are obviously quick to point out.
They're like,
the original creative team behind Scooby-Doo
said that Velma wasn't gay.
But when you dig a little deeper,
thanks to our writer, JM, you dig a little deeper, thanks to our writer,
JM,
he dug a little deeper.
Her character was inspired by a brainy,
quote,
tomboy child actor from the 50s and 60s TV,
who later went on to become,
like I said,
the first openly gay or lesbian person elected to the California legislature.
So it is iconic in lesbian culture that Velma is queer.
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let's talk Halloween costumes.
Let's, you know, every October we like to check in with what's trending on the Halloween costume front.
It sounds like you are a clever Halloween costume person.
I love Halloween.
I already stated this on Trending.
It's my favorite time of year.
I love to dress up.
I love, I mean, I'm Latina at the end
of the day. You know, we love to put on a show. I have had a few, I feel like iconic costumes. I
like a costume that like, it doesn't have to be expensive. Like you don't have to be like full
on cosplay, but I want to know what you are. Like, I want to be able to look at you and you be able
to be like, oh my God. Yeah. Like, I don't want a costume that's like, oh, I put it together with just a
t-shirt and jeans type of thing. And I'm like this TV character. No, I want to know that when I look
at you, I can figure out who you are. And I love if it's scrappy. And I say that all to say is that
in high school, I have bought this green morph suit and it has carried me to this day. I bought a new one to replace it
because it ripped.
But...
The green morph suit is like
the full body spandex green.
Yes.
Yeah.
Like you could be on a green screen
and you couldn't see me type of thing.
Like goes over the head or...
This one has a removable head.
Okay.
Because I'm claustrophobic.
Yeah, that's a lot.
Yeah, that's a lot.
And also not as versatile.
I have used this morph suit
to be four different costumes.
And, you know, listeners,
vote what new green thing you want me to be next.
I've had a few people chime in,
but I bought it to be the Hulk in high school,
which is, if you've ever seen me,
you would laugh because I'm a very tiny person.
But I had these Hulk hands and purple shorts and I wore the green morph suit and painted my face.
And then I've done it to be a Ninja Turtle.
I have used it to be Luigi.
I've used it to be a crocodile and my ex was the crocodile hunter.
So it's been a very versatile good costume to me
i made the tail uh if you creep far enough back into my social media i'm sure you can find it
uh but i i put it out there what green thing should i be i've gotten crayola crayon i've gotten
yoshi um poison ivy this costume is i'm like this should be a running fit now
I'm going to be a green thing
every year
for the rest of my life
so
tell me what green thing
I should be
so I'm going to be a green thing
this year
because
so usually
I've talked before
about how I have
a Batman costume
like a full body costume
with muscles built in
and it's too small
for me
and it leaves
it's been
christened
Camel Toe Batman
because it really digs in there and can be embarrassing.
But I figured out if you wear jeans underneath, it's okay.
It works.
So my son is going to be Spider-Man
and my wife is also going to be Spider-Man.
So I was like, okay, so maybe we could find,
maybe I could be Spider- Spider Pig or something like that.
And it could be like into the Spider-Verse type theme.
But then I thought maybe it'd be more fun
if I was Green Goblin.
And so I got a good Green Goblin mask.
Halloween costume shopping online is still such a mess.
It is.
It's such a mess.
It's like the, you, I mean, so I got the mask.
That was quick. And then, but the full body suit that's supposed to go you know to fill the outfit out is not like i i don't know if it's
gonna get here on time and like if it's gonna fit me or any any of that stuff um it just it
really feels like i don't know someone should have fixed this and made it better by now because it's hard.
I mean, I guess the answer is to be creative.
And there's actually a good New York mag.
There's plenty of really bad articles that are like, here are the topical Halloween costumes for this year.
And like SFGate has one that's got adult Elvis costume.
They're like, you know, because Elvis, for some reason,
adult Patrick Bateman American Psycho costume is there.
That one has been coming up a lot lately, the Patrick Bateman one, I feel like.
Yeah.
I mean, it is like an iconic thing.
Yeah, it's a classic.
Yeah.
But then they also have Avril Lavigne,
an Avril Lavigne Halloween costume there for some reason.
I don't know where this became topical.
So I would say skip the SFGate recommendations,
but New York Magazine's strategist is the cream of the crop,
I think, in terms of ideas for topical Halloween costumes.
You've got Evelyn Wang from Everything Everywhere All at Once
with the hot dog fingers.
That one's a good one.
Yeah, they link off to a place where you can buy
hot dog finger gloves from A24.
Carmi Bersato from The Bear.
Just a blue apron with chef clogs and a white t-shirt.
I kind of like that one.
You were saying that was in the mix for you guys.
Yes, my partner was like
a big fan of the bear
and asked if we could do that one.
But I do feel like
it's going to be a very common costume this year.
I feel like a lot of couples are going to do
that one.
Some of these other ones,
the FBI's raid on
Mar-a-Lago.
I feel like that one's funny.
Yeah, just an FBI windbreaker.
But you are still being an FBI agent,
which is rough.
Yeah, which is not great.
We're ACAB here, so, you know.
They have a whole suite of
Don't Worry Darling costumes,
but they're from the press tour
of Don't Worry Darling. Yeah, they're from the press tour of Don't Worry Darling.
Yeah, which is crazy.
They just, you look like people.
Right.
Like one of them is Olivia Wilde in a yellow like gown.
Looks more like Belle than it does.
Yeah, you're going to get Belle for sure.
The one that I could see myself identifying
is they have Harry Styles with the
just giant
powder blue collar
that like comes all the way down from when he
supposedly spit on Chris Pine
the Beyonce Renaissance one
is fun Beyonce Renaissance one is
you know very ambitious
you have to be ready to be naked
and if you're gonna be
in a place where it's cold i don't
recommend like in new york i'm looking for a costume that's gonna cover me up i just in portland
same thing i was wearing costumes that covered me up i was like i'm not into i'm i've never been
into the sexy costume i'm here for the women that are i'm like be out there be proud be empowering
i love that for you i'm a nerd i'm gonna do a
weird costume i'm gonna do something very authentic and the beyonce renaissance one is
the outfit from the album cover with you know big long blonde wig that might make people a pony
yeah but then they have like the toy horse yeah like version i like pearl toy horse that I feel like is just good
so then you are
enormous
like giant
Beyonce
from the
Renaissance cover
I don't know
they have Serena Williams
bedazzled
outfit
Fire Island
group costume
is
again
very ambitious
that one is
ambitious
because you're
basically naked
because it's
based in the summer
when you go to Fire Island.
But B, I'm like, that's gay culture.
People just look like that.
Like, wow.
I have many friends that dress like that at the club.
So it's not...
It feels appropriative if you're not a part of the community, I guess is what I'm saying.
So toe the line with the Fire Island costume.
I think the one that I like best in terms of probably easy
to pull off i do think most people would know who you were is nathan fielder in the rehearsal
um it's just a gray crew neck sweatshirt and then you just have to like put some strappy things on
you gotta put the laptop uh harness yeah so you just. You got to put the laptop harness.
Yeah.
So you just need to get the connected desk laptop harness walking desk,
which is $40 at buy at connected desk and $50 at Amazon.
So that that's a good one. I feel like at least for me,
I feel like I could pull that off because I also kind of look like that.
And we're about the same age.
Just sort of schlubby and having
a laptop connected to my chest.
Alright.
Well, those are some of the things
that are trending. We also had Nuclear Threat
and Kanye, but
you know. It was a heavy day
and we wanted to end on a fun note.
Well, let's go Halloween costumes.
Tomorrow we'll be back
and talking again about other Halloween
costume ideas. That's just all we're going to talk about
this month, guys. It's too much
out there. Too much.
Becca, thank you so much for joining.
Where can people find you,
follow you, all that good stuff? You can find
me and follow me at Bex, B-E-C-C-S
Ramos on all platforms.
You can find me at Mil Mundos and Bushwick on the weekends.
And also, next up, we have reopened the application.
So, and the link, I know yesterday Miles had promoted the Bitly link I made,
but the iHeart.com slash next up website has been updated with the correct application link.
So you should be able to still go to iHeart.com slash NextUp and apply there.
But we've reopened it till October 14th.
So if you missed it the first round, please get your ideas in there.
We're excited to see what y'all come up with.
Yeah, yeah.
Class number two.
All right. Well, those are the things that are trending on this Thursday afternoon. We're back tomorrow with the whole
episode of the show. Until then, be kind to each other. Be kind to yourselves. Get the vaccine.
Get the flu shot. Don't do nothing about white supremacy. And we will talk to y'all tomorrow.
Bye. Bye.
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Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church.
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Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry.
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People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game.
Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports.
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