The Daily Zeitgeist - Wakanda Not REAL?!? Skating To Smooth Sounds Of 9/11 2.13.18

Episode Date: February 14, 2018

In episode 84, Jack & Miles are joined by comedian Michael Swaim to discuss the Olympics, Trump's new 'Blue Apron' style food stamps, the CFPB's downfall, new immigration bill & Mitch McConnel...l's deceit, google trends, Uganda Knuckles meme, & more. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:54 Voila! You got straight away. They try to save everybody. Listen to Spiraled on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hello, the internet, and welcome to season 18, Episode 2 of Daredaily Zeitgeist! For February 13th, the day before Valentine's Day 2018, my name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. Sister Jack 2, Jack and the Habit. That is courtesy of Jared Urbis, and I am thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray.
Starting point is 00:02:23 I am thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. Don't, Miles Gray, send waterfalls. Please stick to the rivers and the grays that you're used to. I know that you're going to mouse it. You're gray or nothing at all. But I think we're moving too fast. Thank you, Emma Horner. See, that's a multi-layered AKA, and I get down with that.
Starting point is 00:02:50 Any TLC references are welcome. So thank you. Very good. And we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by my former co-host on the Cracked podcast, the hilarious Michael Swain. I don't know a song that includes my name what about that john travolta movie michael there you go or in swain in the membrane you guys are practiced at this right no we have to come off michael swain got no brain. I don't know. This interview is over.
Starting point is 00:03:26 All right. Great episode, guys. So where can we find you? Michael, what is something from your search history that is revealing about who you are as a human? Boy, I searched small egg covered in ash. What does it taste like? Because also I do the Google caveman phrase. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:47 I saw that chef's table on Netflix about Favikin. Do you guys know Favikin? No. It's a three Michelin star restaurant in Sweden. You can't get there any way other than by like traveling over land for at least a day. And it's this super famous restaurant where the head chef, Magnus Nielsen, only makes stuff that I cannot imagine being good at all. So like it just fascinates me. Like a tiny egg covered in ash is one of the dishes.
Starting point is 00:04:13 They just launched a new dish that's a sheep's tongue, not sliced, like not a nice tongue deli sandwich, the whole tongue looking like a tongue on top of like sprigs of wood with pickled dandelions on it. And he'll – yeah, he makes like clams cooked with wood. He uses wood a lot. There's like a bark soup. Delicious. Oh, bark soup. My favorite.
Starting point is 00:04:36 And I just love getting into the – learning about like chef's creations that are totally up their own asses. Right. Like in searching that in preparation for this, I found out there's a restaurant called Quinson San Francisco that I just found out about today that serves a meal called a dog in search of gold. That is a truffle, a hazelnut crisp dusted with mushroom powder served on an iPad. Served on an iPad. What?
Starting point is 00:05:05 Yeah. Wait, is something being displayed on the iPad? No. Served on an iPad. Wait, what? Yeah. Wait, is something being displayed on the iPad? Is that the reason? I couldn't get to that level of detail because, of course, they're like, you got to come. You got to experience it, man. Yeah, and then you'll see.
Starting point is 00:05:14 I'm sure there's some proprietary app on the iPad playing. Otherwise, I'm like, did you just slap some shit together? Yeah. Did you see the video by that journalist who made his basement the number one restaurant on TripAdvisor? No, that's awesome. Yeah, it was really great. And basically he just – all he did was reject people and be like, oh, sorry, we're fully booked that night.
Starting point is 00:05:40 And people just kept getting like more hype about it and like he described it. He's a good writer and he described it in a really interesting way. And but then on the final night, he actually his house. So it seemed like all weird and stuff. And there was a guy who was like, uh, there was like a chicken coop there where they were like, yeah, we're going to kill that and like feed it to you. And then they just fed people like frozen dinners. But,
Starting point is 00:06:15 uh, and people were like, Oh, it's delicious. Incredible. Do you know if the rating dropped after the event, like after people actually tried it, but it's a great video people
Starting point is 00:06:25 yeah there's the guy's brilliant uh my girlfriend and i have been getting super into high-end food but it's just hard to i like cooking and i like the science of food and the art of cooking but there's so much classist bullshit with it right it's crazy yeah yeah not very accessible there's uh we're trying to get into this restaurant event in LA where they interview you, like a job interview, to be allowed to come eat. Oh, fuck you. What is this? Which event is this? It's called Wolf's Den, I think.
Starting point is 00:06:55 Oh, Wolf's Mouth? Wolf's Mouth, yeah. It's like, yeah, yeah, yeah. I've heard about that where it's like they only feed like, what, 15 people at a time or something? Right, like once a month or something. But after a few interviews, we're just like, what are we doing? We're like once a month or something uh but after a few interviews we're just like what are we doing we're like interviewing to be able to eat food what are the questions like and how much can you eat right now just literally yeah like your palate your food
Starting point is 00:07:15 experience and like experience with decorum at a table and stuff like that decorum really yeah okay they like quiz you on the dessert and salad forks and like which one is which? No, because there's this whole movement of they're like – it's super weird. They're trying to be punk and like subversive and break food rules. But you still have to do everything they say exactly like they want it. You know what I mean? Right. It's like that's not in the wolf mouth voice.
Starting point is 00:07:44 Can you wear something else? That's so fucking obnoxious. Because they consider like the people that you're going to be chatting with is part of the atmosphere that they are obliged to control is the theory. But it ends up just being like a fascist eating experience. Right. Like you're just hoping that you don't break some unspoken rule. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:03 I mean, yeah. When you look at their website, it's not a restaurant. It's a dinner party. It's the intersection between food, music, and art. It's an exploration in social dynamics. It's friends, old and new. It's fleeting and always changing. No menus, no dress code, no pretense.
Starting point is 00:08:18 Oh, really? I desperately – no pretense. Yeah. Every word preceding that was pretentious. The most pretentious thing ever. I desperately want to get into that just so that I can like have the most pure experience of hatred like ever. Right. Just like looking around at the people.
Starting point is 00:08:35 You know, it'd be dope to go record it and we just get kicked the fuck out. Yeah. Just break all the wolves mouth. We're like, you're blacklisted from Wolves Den forever. I'm like, I don't give a fuck. Yeah. Break all the wolves mouth. It was like, you're blacklisted from Wolves Den Forever.
Starting point is 00:08:44 I'm like, I don't give a fuck. Yeah. And it is there. It's the kind of place where if you go and see a one star review where someone's like, the food was all right. It took us six months to get in. And the chef was a dick and just talked about himself the whole time. Dominated the conversation.
Starting point is 00:09:02 And the chef will write back like a five page essay on like why that person is wrong. Oh, that'd be amazing. A little group to troll. Yeah. Okay. Well, no, we need to get into this i know uh yeah i know a couple people who might be able to get us in we are not a zeitgeist show if we do not get into this yeah and troll the fuck out of it and we're hidden microphones and all that shit uh michael what is something that is underrated underrated okay well as a comedian of course favorite comedies are dear to me and even in our circles knowing mostly otherians, my favorite comedy show and my favorite comedy movie, no one else likes.
Starting point is 00:09:32 So I have to plug them. For show, Freakazoid. From the period where we were blessed to have Steven fucking Spielberg, like, creating and producing and overseeing shows. Runs around in underwear. Exactly. Freakazoid. Okay,. Exactly. Freakazoid. Okay, I fuck with Freakazoid. Ed Asner, Ricardo Montalban, and like some of the sharpest, you know, the writing that
Starting point is 00:09:52 it's literally the jokes are so adult that that's why it got canceled. Right. And I don't mean edgy, but I mean like no kid is going to get that joke. Right. And I loved it though. And I feel like, I guess I haven't looked at it with adult eyes, but I remember at the time I was all about Freakazoid. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:05 Because I felt it was kind of like in similar to Animaniacs where there were jokes that were seemingly out of my like sort of mental capability. Yeah, they all played both layers. And like Pixar is good at that now. But I feel like that Spielberg WB era was the beginning of like we're going to have a kid's show that the adults will also find funny. Right. And I think Freakazoid is the one show that pushed it too much towards the adult end of the spectrum.
Starting point is 00:10:29 Right. It's way better as an adult. Like, definitely rewatch. Where do you watch it now? I mean, I steal it from... Okay. This guy down my block who has a bag of DVDs. Cool, cool, cool.
Starting point is 00:10:38 I've got a hard drive with me, so we'll link that back to the show. It's only two seasons, yeah. And it's just dynamite. And if you're like, now that you're an adult who has a brain that analyzes how jokes work, some of the stuff is just so impressive. Really good. What's the movie?
Starting point is 00:10:50 The movie, even more obscure, on theme, it's called Freaked. Not Todd Browning's Freaks, which I also find hilarious. Right. But Freaked. It's the only non-Bill and Ted movie that features Alex Winter and Keanu Reeves. Keanu Reeves is uncredited because he's in complete werewolf prosthetics the entire time. By far Keanu Reeves' best performance. You got Randy Quaid, Mr. T, Bobcat Goldthwait, and it is the funniest script I've ever come across.
Starting point is 00:11:23 Yeah. What year? Oh, man. I don't know. It's got to be 90s because it's like the entire soundtrack is the Butthole Surfers and there's claymation effects. Right. So you're like, okay, the 90s. But it is an amazing film that needs to be seen by a much wider audience.
Starting point is 00:11:38 93. 93. Yeah. A vain actor, his best friend, and an activist end up at a mutant freak farm run by a weirdo scientist. All right. Yep, where they get mutated with fertilizer, and it's just delightful. It's a bit like Airplane crossed with Simpsons. What?
Starting point is 00:11:55 Wow. Yeah. Okay. I'm sold. What is something that's overrated? Recycling. Yeah, fuck recycling. All right.
Starting point is 00:12:01 Fuck the Earth. We're trying to take a sample of what – Do you care to explain why? Yeah. fuck recycling. Fuck the earth. We're trying to take a sample of what – do you care to explain why? Yeah. Explain yourself. Well, I did – I started looking into it after that. Penn & Teller had a show called Bullshit where they called bullshit on things, and one was recycling. And since that brought that to my attention, I have been following news articles, studies on the value of recycling.
Starting point is 00:12:23 And if you remember back to your school days there's reduce reuse and recycle recycling is the least effective way to help our climate and environment situation it hurts the economy the most there's the least evidence that it's doing anything useful because even though we don't like the idea of filling giant landfills with garbage, the earth is really large and there is a lot of space to fill with garbage. What we need to do to prevent more carbon emissions and all the attendant catastrophes is reduce and reuse. Like the main thing you can do as an American is waste less food. Like across the board, everyone says if you just eat all the groceries in your fridge, that is like better than buying a Prius. It's better than anything else you can do.
Starting point is 00:13:09 Then reuse. I'm wearing underwear I've had on for five days, and I think that helps the environment. You smell terrible, but I admire you. They are made from recycled underwear, so it's the double whammy. So the difference between reusing and recycling is that you're just like taking a reusable bag to the grocery store and stuff like that. Yeah. Reuse. Not buying disposable items.
Starting point is 00:13:32 Right. Wearing clothes and shoes and driving your car and keeping your phone until those things don't work anymore. And just like every I have a really old, slow phone. And every time it runs slow, I just tell myself, you know, you're helping. That's like the environment tax. Because getting a new iPhone every year is one of the worst things you can do. And yeah. So what do you do?
Starting point is 00:13:53 You just throw your cans in the garbage, like with everything? Yeah. I don't recycle at all. Do you smash them down first? My understanding from looking into it is that the most effective is glass and aluminum. So I'm not going to hate on people who do recycle those things. But another thing that's been found is when people have that blue bin in their house and they fill it up with trash, which is not going to help as much as they think it is, they think to themselves, that's my bit for the environment today.
Starting point is 00:14:19 At least I put the glass in there. Right. Homes that recycle are way more likely to waste way more and actually have a larger carbon footprint because they just tell themselves, I recycle. Oh, and they absolve themselves. Exactly. Okay, cool. Well, reduce, reuse, close the loop. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:36 And you just throw your garbage everywhere. I've noticed just out on the streets. I just take, yeah, I take the six pack ring. I just go to the ocean. I go, fuck out of here. Fuck you. It's actually a unique intersection of dining and performance art, Jack. Once you're on the list, I think you'll understand. All right.
Starting point is 00:14:53 We're trying to take a sample of what people are thinking and talking about right now at this very moment. And the way we like to open up is by asking our guests, what is a myth? What's something people believe to be true that is not? is by asking our guests, what is a myth? What's something people believe to be true that is not? I, just like how we eventually found out the word organic means nothing and is not enforced on our food, I'm coming to suspect that Netflix original doesn't mean anything. And I think people still think it does.
Starting point is 00:15:19 Like when HBO produces something, it comes with a certain standard you expect. Not everything HBO makes is great, but you get the vibe, and it's because when they say that, it actually means they produced it. Right. Their executives fucked with it. Right. It was molded to their brain. And Netflix originals, you get like, yes, House of Cards and Beast of No Nations were like that. But there's this huge influx of like foreign movies that just weren't distributed in the
Starting point is 00:15:46 US and they just stand Netflix original on it. And I keep getting fooled by this shit. Right. Like because up till now, other than like Real Rob and the Adam Sandler slate, every Netflix original is really impressed me or at least been solid. And I think we're starting to fall off. The ranch was sort of like the beginning of the end for me is when I started seeing that they were kind of like messing with the formula. But yeah, now it seems like a lot of even American production companies, they'll do dumb shit on Netflix.
Starting point is 00:16:12 Like, hey, you want to license this? And you'll just call it a Netflix original. And now I've been reading like, yeah, in entertainment news, such and such movie got dropped because they don't want to promote it. Right. And then five months later later i see it as a netflix original i'm like oh no yeah i used to count on that like i could count on you know if jake gyllenhaal's in something the script is strong right right at the same time i saw prince of persia and then i questioned everything right uh the gyllenhaal brand is strong. I do worry about there not being a place for people to see indie movies and stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:16:49 Because I guess Amazon is now going in the opposite direction. And they're basically like, we're taking everything in-house and we're going to produce these huge blockbuster things. Whereas before they were producing things like Manchester by the Sea and stuff like that. We're producing things like Manchester by the Sea and stuff like that. So I do like that there's a place that is still like funding movies that aren't getting widely released or whatever. But they're not really producing. I'm just more of an artistic soul. They're getting the rights though to just – it's not like they're behind actually the generation of these films.
Starting point is 00:17:28 They're just like, hey, yeah, I guess we'll pay you to license it to put it on our service. That what i'm getting is i wonder if some because you know everything's just the computer tells them what to do basically over there and i wonder if some algorithm just told them like that little logo that says netflix original is really working for us and now they're overusing it because also when i log on now it's almost all Netflix originals. It's starting to lose its impact. Alright, well we are going to move on to the stories. We will get back to Netflix originals because looking at Google Trends, there are a couple on there that really popped up.
Starting point is 00:17:57 Let's get into a quick review of the Olympics before our first break. Chloe Kim! First generationorean or second generation korean depending on uh so this is the main thing i want to talk about uh is the fact that there's no agreed on definition of first generation korean i thought i assumed first generation meant that you were the first generation that was born in the United States. My wife is first generation Korean, like Khloe Kim. And apparently that's not an agreed on thing because I saw somebody referring to Khloe Kim as second generation
Starting point is 00:18:35 and her parents who immigrated here as first generation American. Let's just make up our minds, guys. Come on. Yeah, wait. So there's no, like, dictionary definition of what counts? No. When you go to Wikipedia, they say first generation means one of two completely conflicting things. Yeah, because in Japanese, I'm considered nisei, which is a person born in the U.S. Right. Whose parents are from Japan.
Starting point is 00:18:59 Yeah. And that's considered second generation. But I'm like, but aren't I the first? You feel like it's about your birth, not if you immigrate. So I don't know. Whatever. There's such a robust racist lexicon in every culture. Right.
Starting point is 00:19:13 But anyways, she crushed it. She basically already had the gold medal locked away. And then she was like, you know, I really didn't want to come here and just win gold without doing my best and so she put up a final run that like scored a 98 or something like that she blacked out because i think the the one i think it was a chinese snowboarder who was the only the closest person to put pressure on her and when she fucked up her last trick it was in the bag and then she went she was like all right fuck it let me show you how chloe kim does and yeah it was uh she had back to back 1080 degree spins uh which again i'm not good
Starting point is 00:19:52 enough at math to figure out that's three three spins uh which that that's too many spins for somebody to be able to do in the air and not uh up on themselves. You can see why they came up with euphemisms, though. It'd be weird if it was like, and she's doing one, two, three spins, three air spins from Chloe Kim. She did back-to-back three air spins. That's like six spins. That would be me if I was an Olympics commentator. Sometimes they get too thick with the lingo though yeah yeah where i'm
Starting point is 00:20:25 just like what the fuck does that mean they're like indy melon to nose bone i'm like all right i mean that shit looked dope i don't know what a rodeo flip is but i fuck with it uh but both her and sean white yeah uh the flying tomato both looked like we we talked yesterday about the Russian figure skater who's like 15 years old and who when you watch her skate, you can just like it's your eyes can tell the difference that she's like a level above, even if you don't know shit about figure skating. And like I had the same experience with Chloe Kim and Sean White. They were both just they looked like their bodies worked differently with gravity than the rest of the competitors. They spun much more. You could really see like people torquing their bodies to get the spin where you just
Starting point is 00:21:14 see the kind of cows just whoop. I'm spinning out of it. Yeah. And that is my expert commentary on snowboarding. But yeah, shout out to Chloe Kim. I can't imagine that it was an easy thing for her to be like, no, I don't want to play violin and piano, mom and dad. I want to do snowboarding. I'm telling you.
Starting point is 00:21:32 Yeah. I felt bad as an Asian kid. I felt like even the gold medal might not be good enough for her. Yeah. Didn't you say you told your mom that? My mom, she was like, what school did she go to? I'm like, what? She's 17.
Starting point is 00:21:43 She's 17. She's not in high school. Well, we'll see. Well, it should be Harvard. I'm like, what school did she go to? I'm like, what? She's 17. She's 17. She's not in high school. Well, we'll see. Well, it should be Harvard. I'm like, look, Mom, I didn't go there. And she's like, that's why we don't talk. Is that going to get her into Harvard? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:53 She's like, I love the zeitgeist, though. And then really quickly, I wanted to talk about this other Russian figure skater, not the 15-year-old we were talking about before. She is an 18-year-old. Her name is Evgenia Medvedeva. I hope that was okay. Stuck the landing on that. Yeah, nailed it. It sounded like you were doing a Borat.
Starting point is 00:22:13 Evgenia, my wife. She was – if you're watching NBC's enhanced coverage of events. So she won gold or came in first and qualifying. I'm not sure which it was, but she explained on NBC's enhanced coverage of the events. Enhanced. That her short program is about, quote, the flight of the soul as it leaves someone's body at the point of clinical death. Which I was amazed by and loved. And apparently the judges did, too, because she got the highest score ever for a lady
Starting point is 00:22:51 short program. But apparently she also had a previous routine set to the soundtrack from Extremely Loud and Incredibly Close. And I think we have some of the audio from that it's a very nice piano piece what is the judge's set that george bush yeah, that was George Bush saying. Yes, those are the sounds of 9-11 that she figure skated to and choreographed her routine to in the past.
Starting point is 00:23:42 So she is like the dark soul of figure skating uh but she's pretty badass it's worth watching her she uh it's wild to watch to see someone figure skate with 9-11 like because she's really elegant and graceful and then you're like and important note that routine like killed for her right it crushed it's not like she did that and she's the weird outcast no this is her thing yeah uh and i can't wait for the killing fields but it's so funny when you see her like when uh who was it yesterday or the the day before she was watching her teammates skate she just looks like the like the most brightest bubbliest person right and then to then know like deep down she like, I only skate to the sounds of death.
Starting point is 00:24:25 Yeah. No, she that she is pure Russia, like on the surface, just completely calm, cool, collected, looks like a happy teenager. And then she is just but nothing matters because life is death and we will all die alone in darkness is sort of the vibe. I am just learning this now. That's upsetting. I'm so sorry. Yes, we do all die alone.
Starting point is 00:24:48 Okay, oh, God. All right. 21 grams. Well, that's going to do it for our first section. Hope you learned something, too, and we'll be right back after this. Daphne Caruana Galizia was a Maltese investigative journalist who on October 16, 2017, was murdered. There are crooks everywhere you look now. The situation is desperate.
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Starting point is 00:27:05 Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really near them. Why is that? I just come here to play basketball every single day, and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way
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Starting point is 00:28:37 This is Rip Current, available now with new episodes every Thursday. Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. And we wanted to talk about just ways that the government is finding to fuck the little guy. And there's a handful of stories coming together neatly for our theme. We're always hoping that we'll get
Starting point is 00:29:08 a nice cohesive theme and the government cooperated by just fucking over consumers. Start up the outrage machine. Thank you. Thank you, Trump administration. So, Miles, I came in this morning I said, did you hear about the change to Snap? Yep, and I was like, yo,
Starting point is 00:29:24 people are heated. The layout of the new snapchat is pretty whack and people are really fucked up over it and i said i don't really fuck with snapchat but i guess i guess the kids are upset right which uh is apparently a thing that is happening uh anna yesterday was you know super producer an Hosnier being one of the kids herself was mad about it and said it wasn't lit, which is the worst thing somebody of that generation can say. That is a proper nomenclature. So SNAP being also the food stamp program. Oh, you meant Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program. Right. OK, OK. Yeah, that meant supplemental nutrition assistance program. Right. Okay, okay.
Starting point is 00:30:05 So – Yeah, that's fucked up too. Yeah. So the Trump administration announced that they would like to change the food stamp allowances, which nobody has had a complaint with other than extreme, extreme right-wing people who still believe that welfare queens are a thing, which they're not. That was just a false story during the Reagan administration. So they think that people are getting by big portion of food stamps with a program where they ship canned food to people who would previously be able to go to the store and use food stamps to buy food for themselves.
Starting point is 00:30:54 As Mick Mulvaney says, a blue apron type program. Yes. OK. How in what way is that blue apron? That food is being shipped to that. That is it. So any. OK.
Starting point is 00:31:03 And there's nothing. Yeah. It is blue apron. Nothing fresh. Nothing fresh. It's just canned food. Yeah. It their house. That is it. So any – okay. Food in a box is Blue Apron. Nothing fresh. Nothing fresh. Just canned food. Yeah, it's a predetermined diet that the government will send to you with things like peanut butter and pasta. Right.
Starting point is 00:31:15 Shelf-stable milk. Oh, yum. Canned meats and fruits and cereal. Yeah. With no fresh vegetables or meat, which that's usually what's in a regular Blue Apron thing. I'm sure they'd be super receptive to people who have like peanut allergies or whatever. I'm sure the government would be great at dealing with those. What's even the proposed upside?
Starting point is 00:31:34 Is that cheaper than the food stamp program? So what they're saying is that that would allow them to buy food in mass quantities and that would like give them a price break. Yeah, like at half the cost. Right, exactly. But they're not counting all of the difficulties of like shipping. Like people pointed out that Blue Apron had a really rough financial year last year because it's just incredibly expensive to do what they do. expensive to do what they do, like send food to people and, you know, give people any choice or like a good user experience and deliver that food on time. So this goes against all research in sort of charity and how we give charity to other
Starting point is 00:32:19 countries, how we give charity inside our own country has been leading in the opposite direction of this. It's basically been saying we would much prefer that you give people money or give the charity money so that we can redistribute that money to people, because the best form of charity and the most effective way to help people is by giving them money because they know what they need. Like whereas canned food drives like people might not need canned food or they might not need beef stew. Beef stew might not be good for them because they have an infant. I don't need peaches in light syrup
Starting point is 00:32:53 because I have glaucoma. Right, exactly. That's what I need fucking help with. I think it's important to highlight this is not the people who are members of the program saying we need money instead of food, just send us cash. These are people whose interest is what would make the best outcome for all of society including economically right these are studies right so it's like how do you not foresee the downstream
Starting point is 00:33:15 costs if you're shipping all of your poorest citizens boxes and boxes of peanut butter and cling peaches there's huge downstream costs there you know with food deserts and health care costs that's insane right yeah and even with the proposed idea they expect the states to shoulder all the cost of distributing and putting the thing together so it's like it's just this fucking idea it's not even a real thing it's just like let's just see what people think so we can you know further help people who are poor feel ashamed of their situation. Right. And the disparity is so bizarrely heightened in our country that it's like Wyatt Koch could probably just pay for this program out of his pocket. For some reason, this program made me think of Wyatt Koch, too, because the central ethos of this is rich white Republicans who think they know what's best for other people
Starting point is 00:34:07 and that the problem poor people have is that they have too much control over their own decision making and that they just aren't like smart enough or capable enough to make smart decisions for themselves. And so that the real problem is that, you know, they need to make those decisions for them, whereas it's just based on how hard you work and how much you're willing to pull yourself up. It says it is on the box. The box that America comes in has a big shiny sticker that says socially mobile society. Right there. Read it. There was a Paul Ryan quote from earlier in the year where he was saying like where you are born has nothing to do with where you end up in America.
Starting point is 00:35:09 Oh, for sure. So the economist came back and was like, you know, compared America to other countries like Finland, Norway, Denmark, other Western countries. All those countries. Relatively egalitarian. Those countries relatively egalitarian. And basically what your father makes allows people to tell within 20 percent what you'll end up making in those countries, whereas in America it's 50 percent. So it's like way more deterministic in the United States than in other Western countries that have more like socialist policies, what we would consider to be socialist. But now it's conflicted with capitalism because, you know, the huge opponents of this shitty,
Starting point is 00:35:50 uh, blue apron for pores program is, uh, the food marketing Institute, which is the largest, like the lobbying group for supermarkets. Right. Uh,
Starting point is 00:35:59 food. They're trying to unload their cans. Like you are when you go to the canned food drive and give all the bullshit. They're like, bro, you're going to send people boxes they will not buy at the fucking stores. So what the fuck are you going to do? So this is a place where Walmart is actually on the people's side. Right.
Starting point is 00:36:16 Where they're like, oh, we like EBT because that means we get the money. Right. So it's really just a fight of who's going to get the money. Is it the canned food people or the food retailers? It's big box, you guys. It's this cadre of box factories all over the country just trying to get everything boxed. In a box. I bet box business is booming. Yeah, you see boxes on the rise lately. All right, let's talk about another policy that the Trump administration released yesterday. So the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau has spent the past – it was created by Elizabeth Warren back when she was still a professor at Harvard. You mean socialist cuck?
Starting point is 00:36:52 Right, socialist cuck, Elizabeth Warren. of this rampant corruption within the financial industry. And they decided to create an independent agency that was able to look at financial services and fine companies if they did shady shit. And so far, since they were instituted in 2010, they've given back $11.8 billion to 29 million consumers since 2011. So that's an average of $407 returned to roughly 9% of the US population. So they're like, helping people out like that's giving back hurting the banks. So that's that is they're hurting Wells Fargo, Jack, the extremely wealthy financial companies that are like making record profits in the past that like he thinks it shouldn't exist. And so he announced all Trump does, though.
Starting point is 00:38:18 It's like I expected his secretary interior to just be someone who's like, I only go outside. I never enter a building. Right. Like everything. Right. Like everything is just bizarro opposite world. As if you're a kid with blocks and holes and you're matching them to the opposite shape. It's just so insane. Just jamming it in. He's like, yeah, the new head of CFPB, Daddy Warbucks.
Starting point is 00:38:39 Right. Yeah. So their policies, surprisingly, he recently requested a zero dollar budget for the January to March one, saying the bureau would draw on their reserves instead because they're apparently just crushing it financially. And then they are trying to change it so that they are overseen by Congress. The whole idea is that they are overseen by the Federal Reserve. And so they have independent funding. So like Republican, Democratic squabbling cannot get in the way of them doing their job. And they're basically trying to change that so that they are funded by Congress.
Starting point is 00:39:21 Oh, cool. Yeah. Yeah. So it'll effectively be the death of this agency that was in place for a very brief time and actually giving money back to consumers. That could be a slippery slope because if they lose the house, you know, shit could change, but we'll see. Yeah, it's weird
Starting point is 00:39:38 how many organizations that get insanely profitable use those profits to craft a loud narrative that they're poor, like that they can't catch a break or make any money. And it's like, yeah, but you're crafting that narrative with a team of highly paid lobbyists. It's a self-defeating argument. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:58 It's a difficult argument because, you know, people in the financial industry will just tell you, no, but you have to understand this bureau is the worst. And I know a lot of these people, and they argue it with conviction. And I can't argue with them because it's like they're saying, you don't speak Chinese. This person is saying a crazy thing in Chinese, so you just have to trust me. I'm like, okay, fine. Yeah, dude, the banks are hurting, man. I was trying to explain to my kids, man, they got to get an iPhone six, right? I mean, success,
Starting point is 00:40:29 but you know, you start telling your kids that, right? It's true. Uh, the iPhone six sucks. My kid has to drive a used Range Rover. Okay. Shit is embarrassing. So,, for a bit of inspirational truth to power, the West Virginia House floor, a young woman who is running to be a state delegate in that state, Lissa Lucas, L-I-S-S-A Lucas, is a Democrat. As a Democrat, she's trying to run for the House of Delegates. She got up to speak on a bill that was about to be voted on. And she was pointing out that the people who were voting on this bill to a large degree had been funded by the energy industry. No. And so here, let's listen to how her testimony went. So here, let's listen to how her testimony went. I'd also like to point out that the people who are going to be speaking in favor of this bill are all going to be paid by the industry.
Starting point is 00:41:36 And people who are going to be voting on this bill are also often paid by the industry. For example, on the Judiciary Committee, Charlotte Lane, about $10,000 from gas and oil interests, including AEP, Marathon, First Energy, Dominion, EQT, and I could go on. Next, let's talk about John Schott from Mercer. These are all people who are there. First Energy, $2,000. Appalachian Power, $2,000. Steptoe and Johnson. And are those 9-11 sounds in the background? That's impressive.
Starting point is 00:42:03 Diesel Energy, $1,000. EQT, $1,000. EQT, 1,000. And I could go on. Now let's talk about Jason Harshbarger. Let's talk about Jason. Ms. Lucas, we ask no personal comments be made. This is not personal comments. It is a personal comment, and I'm going to call you out of order if you're talking about these individuals on the committee.
Starting point is 00:42:20 Do not question, big brother. You have to address the bill. If not, I'll ask you to please step down. So now they're turning off her mic. So yeah, she's still talking, but they turned off her mic. $3,500, about 40% of his money. Not only is politics all fake, it's so antithetical to reality when someone's just like, look, we all know what the fuck's going on. Let me just lay it out.
Starting point is 00:42:42 Everyone's like, get them out of here. I don't want that. The show, the illusion is dropping. It's like turning the lights on at the club right you don't want to see that right but sometimes that's that's the truth ruth right uh and at the end there two big fat old white dudes came up and like basically carted her off yeah by her arm kind of like strong arming her which has like, yo, don't put your hands on her like that. Just cut her mic off, and then you can have a police officer do something, but don't send your goons up there who are probably the same guys
Starting point is 00:43:11 she probably called out. They're like, all right, come on, man. We've heard enough. We've heard enough reality. By the way, Jason Harshberger, the person who she was about to talk about, is who she is running against. He's a Republican who she's running against in the upcoming election. So they did not want her speaking on his name.
Starting point is 00:43:30 But see, that's good. You know, it's good to see people, you know, at least especially in a state like that in West Virginia that is very dependent on coal and things like that. Where there are people who are trying to run, who see the imbalance of power in that state. And just in general, you know, good to see people going out and just trying to talk that shit because we need more people speaking that truth to power. And finally, just some sort of legislative stuff. This was something I was wondering about earlier. We were supposed to hear about immigration and Congress was the Senate was supposed to actually talk about immigration, put it up for debate. What's going on with that, Miles? So Monday, they Chuck Grassley and Republicans, they put a bill forward that definitely follows the framework that Trump was saying that he wanted, which is essentially like, you know, if you want citizenship for some of these DACA eligible people, then I want border money and I want to cut down legal immigration.
Starting point is 00:44:27 So this thing creates like a $25 billion like trust fund sort of thing to create the wall in border security. Then it also limits legal immigration like, you know, just family reunification and the visa diversity lottery as well as tightening like immigration enforcement within our country, within the borders. And so it's a bill that is probably not going to get the 60 votes they need because it's just pure fuckery. And it's just like, all right, well, fine, we'll give you this thing. But we also want all the shit that you're against also. Right. So it's not much of a deal. And again, they need 60 votes.
Starting point is 00:45:00 And that means they're going to need probably nine Democrats at least to get this thing over the line, which seems pretty unlikely because Mitch McConnell said when we tried to avert the last shutdown was like, look, OK, we'll have an open discussion on the floor. We can submit amendments and we can do this the right way. But suddenly now this morning, he's telling people that he wants the entire debate with like all the other competing proposals that uh like democrats and republicans are putting forward he wants it to be done by the end of this week or it's off uh and the senate usually wraps up their business by end of day thursday so that's less than three full days to solve a decades old issue uh so it's very i don't know man again we were saying this mitch mcconnell is a fucking piece of shit and i don't care what he says even Even if he's like, well, I promise to – no, fuck you, dude.
Starting point is 00:45:46 Like we knew you were going to do it dirty. You always lie. You lie straight to people's faces. I feel like Dick Durbin was like telling him. He's like, yo, I defended you to people who are really skeptical. Don't do this now. You promised this like to have this open discussion, and we can actually deliberate properly like a bipartisan, the greatest deliberative body in the land can do.
Starting point is 00:46:07 And it's just when you really couple that with the, like, you know, the GOP was blocking out months for debate and discussion over gutting Obamacare and trying to do that many times and trying to pass that God awful tax scam that suddenly with this, it's like, okay, we got to get done three days. So it's clearly on their terms uh and we'll see what happens i mean they got a couple days but look after march 5th when uh the daca thing expires there could be roughly what like a thousand recipients per day begin to lose their work permits and at the risk of deportation so i mean it seems like what they may likely want to try and do is just extend it for a year and just kick the can down the road. But I think we were all trying to have an actual solution to this.
Starting point is 00:46:50 So I don't know. We'll see what Chuck Schumer and the rest of the gang can pull together because the House Democrats were really hoping that they could actually get a bill done in the Senate that would put a little bit of pressure on the House. And we'll – I don't know if that's going to happen. And is it just shorter or is it – it was going to be public and now it, I don't know if that's going to happen. And is it just shorter or is it, it was going to be public and now it's private also? No, it's going to be public. It's still going to be,
Starting point is 00:47:10 but it was just like zips by. He's like, well, I said it would be a week and this is the week. So it's going to be done in this week. Oh yeah. And according to my, you know,
Starting point is 00:47:18 neck, we'll see what happens. But he, again, he has something there. Yeah. Again, it's just another example of Democrats being a little naive and not counting on Republicans to pull as many stunts and tricks as they can to sort of hamstring this whole reform push. Right.
Starting point is 00:47:38 So they're putting out a thing they know Democrats are going to hate. And they're saying, all right, now we have to agree on something in the next two days. Yeah. If you want to amend it, like, here let's have debate now but two days come on right and then at the end they'll presumably be like sorry you guys didn't so is this it we're gonna vote on this you guys like this and if not well then i guess we'll see how this shakes up because this news just came out that he was like we have to finish this week yeah which is insane uh but again let's see what happens do you think that like he can when he inhales like
Starting point is 00:48:07 blow the like his neck like a bullfrog out oh yeah frog out no they're i feel like they're ornamental they're those flaps just but i mean when he's trying to like you know attract his wife to him do you think he can maybe do that i mean elena chow we've seen that's how he looks like a capitalist robot right is unmoved by anything. I don't know. She had to stand behind Trump when he said the white supremacists were good people. She was like, oh, boy. Why am I up here?
Starting point is 00:48:33 There's sort of breaking news four hours ago, but Netanyahu, the boy, the Israeli prime minister, was embroiled in a bribery scandal, and the Israeli police have just come out and recommended that he be indicted in a pair of corruption cases. So that's – Yeah, because corruption is the worst crime. That's embarrassing. But hey, do what you got to do. Let's see if they can follow through. Right. All right.
Starting point is 00:49:03 We're going to take a quick break, and we'll be right back with some Google Trends. Daphne Caruana Galizia was a Maltese investigative journalist who, on October 16, 2017, was murdered. There are crooks everywhere you look now. The situation is desperate. My name is Manuel Delia. I am one of the hosts of Crooks Everywhere, a podcast that unhurts the plot to murder a one-woman Wikileaks. Daphne exposed the culture of crime and corruption that were turning her beloved country into a mafia state. And she paid the ultimate price. country into a mafia state. And she paid the ultimate price.
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Starting point is 00:54:02 So first up, we wanted to take a look at a twitter trend miles that you have been noticing just the last two days look white people don't want black people they don't want us to have anything okay so first fucking yesterday with the obama portraits like there was a coordinated smear campaign uh from the likes of the right uh you know because kahinde wiley who did the obama portrait also did versions of like classical art of like beheadings or whatever and he does it in a style like anyway they basically were just there was a lot of 4chan and and you know are the donald uh subreddit type freaks out there trying to be like oh this is racist this is bullshit blah blah blah
Starting point is 00:54:40 and just it was like just a coordinated smear and a lot of people suddenly became art critics yesterday uh when the portraits came out they're like oh this uh this looks terrible this is not art oh michelle obama looks like a pencil drawing or whatever it's like motherfucker do you know art okay your avatar is you wearing a camouflage under armor hood okay uh also so that was one thing i was like okay whatever this is to be expected because this is sort of the state of america but then also, as someone pointed out, how much there are people who really need to point out to black people that Wakanda, the imaginary kingdom from the Black Panther film that has many people excited, especially people of color, because, oh, look, we got our own movie now. That is seemingly unoffensive. So many people are tweeting stuff like, Wakanda is not real. Wakanda.
Starting point is 00:55:26 Do they realize Wakanda is not a real place? Dear black people, repeat after me. Wakanda is not real. These are all different tweets. I'm not just saying this over and over. LOL, Wakanda is fiction. Ancient Egypt wasn't black. Wakanda is not a real place.
Starting point is 00:55:41 So, look. But Gotham City is And Krypton is real And Dungeons and Dragons is real It got blown up RIP Rest in Power to Krypton But yeah again Star Wars Tatooine is not real
Starting point is 00:55:58 Endor is not real Look we know Alderaan is not real Hogwarts though real Don't fuck around with Hogwarts. Whatever. I mean, again, it's just, I guess because of the idea that this is a place where Africans still, like, you know, had the agency over their own kingdom without colonialism or whatever to do as they saw fit. It's like, oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:56:18 So it's people getting excited about the Black Panther movie coming out and white people responding by pointing out that the movie is fictional yeah because you know some people in there even on their twitter names are putting stuff about wakanda like a citizen of wakanda yeah or whatever and then that's got people so fucking angry it's worse than a straw man argument it's condescending to someone who doesn't exist it's like inventing someone dumber than you. Right. So you could go, actually, and you're just in a room alone. Like, what the fuck are you doing?
Starting point is 00:56:51 I mean, yeah. You should just clap back and be like, oh, it's not? Can you show me any literature that proves Wakanda is not real? Right. And just send them on, I guess, a very easy Google search. But yeah, that's new, and white people don't want us to have anything news. So yeah, Wakanda is not real So yeah, Wakanda is not real. Update, Wakanda is not real.
Starting point is 00:57:07 And also everything to do with the – She was sketched. Yeah, everything is racist if it has to do with the Obamas. So that's it for me in the field. Back to you. So we just wanted to look at some Google trends from the past days and that I had kind of missed. So Cloverfield Paradox, I knew that that was released after the Super Bowl. And, you know, apparently that worked because that is the top search trend, like the top
Starting point is 00:57:37 term that leapt out of nowhere from the third through the 13th. So they nailed it with the release of that. nowhere from the 3rd through the 13th. So they nailed it with the release of that. But Michael, you watch Cloverfield Paradox and you're saying they didn't quite nail it with the execution. So, well, more than that, I booed over your introduction. We were talking earlier about Netflix originals, and this is the movie that made me realize, oh, this scene is over, the Netflix original scene.
Starting point is 00:58:04 Because, and there's a great podcast our ex-compatriots, David Christopher Bell and Tom Ryman do called We Just Watched. And they covered it and pointed out that it's painfully transparent that it's diehard syndrome where it's an unrelated script. The script was originally called God Particle. And they've done the minimal amount to make it Cloverfield. It's like slapping a Cloverfield bumper sticker on it. There's one effects shot that shows a Cloverfield-like creature. And they reshot some scenes where they say the word Cloverfield. And they shot this ridiculous insert of Donna Logue on TV just giving a bunch of exposition about Cloverfield that the astronauts watch from the space station for no reason.
Starting point is 00:58:47 While crises are going on, they're like, hey, let's tune on the TV. Let's watch Donald Logue. To watch Donald Logue say, hey, everyone, this movie you're about to watch that will never mention Cloverfield again is about Cloverfield. Right. And it's lazy to the point that all of their outfits and many of the props say Helios on them because that is the name of the ship. And yet in all the reshoots, they refer to it as the Cloverfield. And literally this was supposed to be the key to the franchise that explained like everything,
Starting point is 00:59:17 how Cloverfield and 10 Cloverfield Lane are in the same universe at all. And it just does not. It doesn't even try. It was a direct to DVD movie that they slapped some paint on and released as a Netflix original. And I'm like, that kills the Netflix original juice that was going. I hate it.
Starting point is 00:59:35 Right. Did you watch 10 Cloverfield lane? Yeah, much, much, much stronger. So that was like a really fun movie, but I also felt like it was a great movie that at the end, again, just like pasted on the Cloverfield thing.
Starting point is 00:59:48 And I don't know. It felt very like mashed together. Like they had a great movie. And then J.J. Abrams was like, OK, I want that to be a Cloverfield movie. So let's add some monsters at the very end that have nothing to do with the thing that you just watched and enjoyed. I think the only thing connecting them is it's kind of like Exquisite Corpse because it was like monster movie that ends with the apocalypse. The next movie is apocalypse that ends with aliens. Right.
Starting point is 01:00:15 Spoiler alert. The Cloverfield paradox is aliens at the beginning ends with time travel and they've already announced Cloverfield 4 is going to be the Clooverfield monster appears in world war ii times right and and again it's a script that was not designed to be a cloverfield movie so they're taking some mid-shelf world war ii like let's do the mission and kill nazis movie and they're gonna add some cloverfield scenes and release it what are they doing yeah that'd be great if it was just like a straightforward like saving private ryan type movie like and they're just like yeah but then at the end yeah instead of yeah back in iowa i got a girl waiting for me yeah instead of the air fleet coming in and like saving them it's a cloverfield monster um yeah it's the it's the interconnectedness of
Starting point is 01:01:04 like an arrested development but with nothing behind it right like there's a there's a shot in cloverfield paradox where they're just in the cockpit and suddenly it cuts to a close-up on the corner of the console of a slusho bobblehead doll and i saw online everyone freaking out like what does it mean what does it mean what does it mean that the art director put that there for a cheap insert shot to make it seem like a cloverfield movie right it doesn't mean shit yeah i think that's overrated too like when like uh black mirror has an episode apparently in this last season where it suggests that everything is like in a connected universe possibly and it's like i don't like that necessarily ties direct connections
Starting point is 01:01:46 where it's like someone says a line and you're like oh i guess during the events of this across the country that other episodes happening because they referenced that it was on the news you're like what is that ad really right like twilight zone wouldn't have been better if at the end they were like all part of a shared universe all the was all in the same day. Right. So, yeah, I don't know. And I also worry about this because this is the second movie that they've released, Netflix, that the release has been extremely successful. Both Bright and this had – I can't believe Bright crushed. Huge releases.
Starting point is 01:02:19 Yeah. But they were both bad movies. But they were both bad movies. And it's just like that is always a problem when a media company is having a lot of success, but it's completely disconnected from quality. Then they start to lose their way a little bit. I was really thinking about this with Bright because they've already announced Bright 2. Right. And I have to assume that it's because Netflix – I mean, you know, the classic story is House of Cards is because they had a poll. And people were like, our favorite director is David Fincher.
Starting point is 01:02:45 Our favorite actor is Kevin Spacey. So they put them together. Right. So if that's their model, if that's where they take their cues, people, we got to help Netflix out. We can't keep watching shit like Bright to see how bad it is. Right. Because then they see a computer readout that says, oh, kids love Bright. And what they don't realize is no
Starting point is 01:03:06 one's gonna watch bright too we all watch bright one because those allegations came out and because we heard it was so crazy bad but i don't need to see another movie that awful yeah so i feel like they're gonna take these big swings based on popular flops yeah and i just yeah it's incentivizing absolutely the wrong thing right we're encouraging mediocrity guys yeah i don't know how much people realize how like netflix the huge advantage they have is all driven by the fact that they can see what we watch and so they have the ability to be like wow people would actually watch the ranch because they like two and a half men with fucking ashton kutcher right and westerns or whatever so they just like
Starting point is 01:03:45 mash two things together and that's apparently people like will smith movies and uh fucking the lord of the rings the creepiest is when they'll tweet those breakdown the like at miles of gray hey we saw that you watched 18 minutes of this what'd you think of it uh altered carbon is also up there. That's their new show. None of us have seen it. We watched the first two minutes, and it seems to open with a pretty graphic – Shower.
Starting point is 01:04:12 Not graphic. It's like someone's bloody. They're taking a shower and having sex. Yeah. I don't know. Whatever. Hot. Travis Scott.
Starting point is 01:04:19 He didn't get me. I don't know if it's as problematic as it seems, but the trailer just made me brace for it being really troubling because – and I'm not – I haven't seen it. So I don't know if this is the plot, but from what I could piece together, it seemed like it's about an Asian guy who dies and becomes reformulated as a white guy who knows martial arts because he has an asian guy inside of him oh that is like i don't know that's what the trailer seems to suggest the quick synopsis yeah let's hear it more than 300 years in the future society has been transformed by new technology leading to human bodies being interchangeable and death no longer being permanent takeshi kovacs okay very interesting are you like a croatian japanese person? Is the only surviving soldier of a group of elite interstellar warriors who were defeated in an uprising against the New World Order. His mind was in prison for centuries until an impossibly wealthy businessman, Lawrence Bancroft, offers him the chance to live again.
Starting point is 01:05:16 Kovacs will have to do something for Bancroft, though, if he wants to be resurrected. I don't – again, I don't know. But there's this like – if it is true that that's what it is, it's just the peak whitewashing. It's like literally in the plot the guy dies so he can be reincarnated as a handsome white guy. But that's also why I know karate. Right. And that's not problematic because I was Asian before. If only we could make karate movies with white people.
Starting point is 01:05:42 Oh, here. This is what you do. How do we do it? You put – so asian guy dies and then you put his soul in a white man's body wow done done done it again and then finally uh we have been quoting apparently a meme uh we're calling it the uganda knuckles meme around the office in particular super producer anna h Producer Anna Hosnia has been just yelling it out.
Starting point is 01:06:06 Yeah, yelling it out in the office. It's gotten into all of our heads and we haven't quite figured out what I guess there was an episode of Reply All where they explained it. And I listened to that episode. I still don't totally have it figured out. But Michael, so you kind of chased this down a little bit. have it figured out but michael so you kind of chased this down a little bit well this is hilarious because i'm regurgitating information to you that i heard on culture kings which is from your network right but they were quoting the reply all episode okay um and then i went
Starting point is 01:06:36 online and researched uh because the culture kings were just saying how like it's wildly offensive and yet they couldn't stop laughing so i I was like, well, if you can't stop laughing, I got to see it. And I will admit it had me cackling and feeling guilty at the same time. But it's – there's this – and this was a meme a long time ago. There's a Ugandan action movie, like war movie. And the trailer went around because it is a bad movie. It's one of those funny bad movie trailers. Apparently it's like a white dude from America who like failed at his job and then was just like, I'm going to go to Uganda and make action movies on a $0 budget.
Starting point is 01:07:09 Like literally each movie has a $30 budget. And like they're actually more modern than you think. They look like they're from like the 60s, but they're actually from a few years ago. And forgive me for this, but there's a lot of pullout lines that are like, do you know the way? The way of the devil? This man is of the devil. Right. So fast forward to now.
Starting point is 01:07:30 I don't know how people come up with what they combine into memes. It's some kind of weird genius. Fast forward to now. Someone goes into, I forget what video game, just like VR Hang or something, where you can just be an avatar and it's just a chat room makes a really shitty looking version of Knuckles from Sonic the Hedgehog universe. Just like a really derpy one. That's tiny. So it's only like half the size.
Starting point is 01:07:54 They're like porg size or Star Wars and they'll go anywhere. Like if people are trying to have a virtual wedding, which has its own problems, why are you doing that but and it you'll just have full-sized humans with suddenly a flash mob of tiny little sonic and knuckles porgs coming in and be like excuse us do you know the way and it'd be like he does not know the way to chase him why are you running and they'll just like it's the classic thing people do on video games like fuck up their game, follow them incessantly. But it's just – it is really funny when you get someone who, like me, does not know what the hell is going on, is trying to ask them questions like, can I help you? It's pretty funny and wildly offensive.
Starting point is 01:08:40 Yes. All right. Well, that explains a lot about super producer. Uganda is not real. Uganda is not. Wake up, sheeple. That's the running joke of it. Yeah. Memes are so fascinating. Yeah. Because it's like the entire Jungian consciousness just doing free association. As a mass like zeitgeist.
Starting point is 01:09:04 Yeah. And you can ask ask anyone why did you do that and they'll just be like other people did it right and then yeah you'll never track down the original person who can explain why the fuck this came into existence yeah but it's like group hive mind joke writing that has a weird like dream logic yeah it's interesting how those kinds of jokes always end up being the only thing that can be universal which is just like weird non-sequiturs that has a weird like dream logic. Yeah. It's interesting how those kinds of jokes always end up being the only thing that can be universal, which is just like weird non sequiturs. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:30 Well, Michael, it has been wonderful having you. Such a pleasure to be here. Thanks for having me, guys. Where can people find you and follow you? Oh, boy. Well, since the cracks diaspora. Yeah. Myself and a lot of our mutual buddies have been trying to start up our own new things, and our new thing is called Small Beans.
Starting point is 01:09:50 You can find us on Patreon at patreon.com slash small beans or just go to iTunes or Stitcher and look for the Small Beans feed. We're mainly releasing podcasts now because we're just getting rolling. If you were a fan of our previous work, we plan to be rolling out the kinds of sketches you would have seen at Cracked and just continuing to fight the good fight with no corporate overlords, which we're excited about. Personally, not a fan. Yeah. No, it's wonderful. It's everything I loved about you guys at Cracked. Yesterday we just dropped – It's just you guys doing your thing.
Starting point is 01:10:21 Yeah, it's fun. It's fun. We just dropped a really good interview with Soren Bui yesterday. Boo. Yeah, but you can hear about what he's doing over at American Dad and what a horrible burden it is for him to have had children. Oh, no. Miles, where can people find you and follow you?
Starting point is 01:10:39 You can find me and follow me on Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Grey. And, you know, a shout out to all the salty Canadian listeners who are like, don't be slagging off the Canadian Olympic team. Look, I love you all up there. We're sorry. Yeah, but I'm sorry. And I talked about how people escape to work in one of your towns and how magical that is. So you're coming out ahead in my book. how magical that is so you know we're you're coming out ahead in my book uh yeah when the first time a friend told me who grew up somewhere cold they were like oh yeah in the winter we would
Starting point is 01:11:10 ice skate to school because the river went from our house to school like you grew up in a goddamn fantasy world that's like a dickens postcard or something yeah um and uh we'd love for you guys to rate and review us on Apple Podcasts. And Miles, I think we have a review to share with our listeners. Yes, we do. The title, Intelligent and Fun from Irate Samurai with the five-star. Bless you, fam. I enjoy getting a daily update on the world from Jack and Miles' humorous perspective,
Starting point is 01:11:38 and their guests are great. And I get to hear music I would never hear, which is sometimes good. Just sometimes. Thanks, boys. So, all right. never hear, which is sometimes good. Just sometimes. Thanks, boys. So, all right. All right, irate samurai. I can tell you're not a totally supportive samurai. You're a little irate.
Starting point is 01:11:51 I get that. But we appreciate the review. I don't even blow up the spot. You know, that's actually Peter Travers of the Rolling Stones. Oh, really? Irate samurai. Yeah, that's true. Irate.
Starting point is 01:12:02 Yeah, I get it. Yeah, go back to rating samurai. Yeah, man. I rate Yeah I get it Go back to rating samurais So Miles Speaking of our spotty music taste Do you have a song? Oh yes I have a song Because you know a lot of people Were a fan of the Spotify ad read
Starting point is 01:12:17 Where I was rapping like this Well you know a real legend Of emceeing and the hip hop world In general Lovebug Starsky he passed away last week. And you might have heard the name, if you remember Juicy, of a notorious BAIG. He says, peace to Ron G, Brucie B, Kicker Pre, Funkmaster Flex, Lovebug Starsky. I want to play people one of his great tracks, You've Gotta Believe. And it's where this guy was one of the forefathers of hip-hop.
Starting point is 01:12:43 He was MCing in the late 70s and kind of didn't get his shine like how Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five did. But, again, it's important. Learn your history. Rest in peace to the little bug stars. And also, like a lot of music from that era, like the rapping kind of gets in the way of my enjoyment. It's like too nursery rhyme and like the focus is too much on that. But like this actually sounds dope. Yeah, it's kind of funky. And if you watch watch the video i realized i was born in the wrong era like
Starting point is 01:13:08 i wish i was emceeing in the early 80s like while everybody was like just flying off their face on cocaine like wearing crazy outfits but anyway if anyone has a time travel machine hit me up because i will go there and that's going to do it for today we will be back tomorrow because it is a daily podcast talk to you guys then Well, I've been through times not so hot I did the best with what I've got I didn't let those things bother me Believe in my own VIP When things got bad and very slim
Starting point is 01:13:54 I didn't think that I could win About to drown my troubles in the sea But these words of wisdom came to me You've got to believe Don't let no one say you can't make me You've got to believe Don't let no one say you can't make it You've got to believe When things go wrong, just overtake it You've got to believe
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