The Daily Zeitgeist - Wall Til You Fall, Gig Economy Is KILLING It 12.12.18
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Hello, the internet, and welcome to Season 61, Episode 3 of Dirt Daily Zeitgeist,
the podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness
using the headlines, box office reports, TV ratings,
what's trending on Google and social media.
It's Wednesday, December 12, 2018.
My name's Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. Even the sun goes down.
Heroes eventually die.
Horoscopes often lie, and sometimes why.
Nothing is for sure.
Nothing is for certain.
Nothing lasts forever, but until they close the curtain, it's him and I, Jack O'Brien.
And I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host Mr. Miles Gray! Yes, thank you.
No singing, a.k.a. today. I'm just calling
myself Mr. 10K Gray. Thank you
for getting me to 10,000 Twitter
followers. I now have a millennial
savings account, as that one Twitter said.
So if I ever have bills, I will reach out to
y'all for a quick thing.
I know, Sarah, you have like
84,000. Jack is like
30-something thousand. So it's nice to be in the one-comma club I know Sarah you have like 84,000 Jack is like 30 something thousand
So it's nice to be in the
One comma club
Or five figure club for followers
Also aka
Smock weed everyday
Whatever the fuck that weird tweet was about
And my aka was
Courtesy of
Oh and mine was from Andrew Hillary.
We're thrilled to be joined in our third seat by the hilarious comedian Sarah Schaefer.
Hey.
What's up?
You know.
Welcome back.
Thank you.
It's great to be back.
It's great to have you back.
What have you been up to?
Oh, boy.
I've been deep into writing a book.
Whoa.
And it is ruining my life. Yeah. What's the book about? It writing a book. Whoa. And it is ruining my life.
Yeah.
What's the book about if we can?
It's a memoir.
Okay.
I don't recommend it, doing that.
Going into the recesses.
I wrote, I got the book deal like a year ago.
I wrote the first draft, turned it in in June.
And then two months went by and I got a letter back from the editor.
It's called an editorial letter, which basically was like, no.
I mean, it wasn't like that.
I mean, there were things they liked, but it was like, you need to start over.
I guess I'm not the gift of a memoir writer than I thought I was.
But I was very upset at first.
And then I took a few months to dig deeper and really think harder about it, and they were right.
Okay.
I needed it to be a better story instead of just, like, throwing everything at the wall.
Right, right.
That sounds like a terrible couple of months.
The couple of months where you were digging deeper.
Oh, I'm still in that mode.
Yeah, that sounds horrible. Like where I'm reading every, because I'm someone
who collects things
from the past
and I'm reading
every journal entry
I've ever had,
touching everything
and finding, you know,
because a lot of the book
has to do with my mom
and so I found her journals,
reading all of her journals
and just really,
I mean, I'm just, I'm ready
to put it all back in metaphorically and physically.
I'm ready to put it all back in a box and put it away and not think about the past for
so much of my life.
Right, right, right.
It sounds a little bit like getting audited by reality or by the publishing industry.
At the end of this process, I'm going to, I mean, I am in therapy, but this is like an intense examination of my life.
And most of it won't even end up in the book.
But I just, I'm looking for all those little details that make a book more vibrant to read.
Like, oh, what was the, because I was like, oh, I forgot everything in my life.
That's what I felt like at first.
And then once you start reading things, you're like, oh, yeah, remember that whole thing?
Or like, you know, just the color of the wallpaper in the kitchen, you know, things like that pop back up.
Yeah, sense memory is very strong.
I find even like going back through when I'm like doing taxes at the end of the year, like at the end of the year just like going back through my credit card statement
I'm just like whoa that happened
remember that yeah
holy shit
I feel like I've been in a box
spend $8,000 at REI
that's very easy to do
very easy to do
yeah cause fucking long underwear is like $100
I was fucked up over that anyway
if you see footage of me arguing with somebody at REI it was because I believe that long johns should not like $100. Yes. I was fucked up over that. Anyway, if you see footage of me arguing with somebody at REI, it was because I believe
that Long John should not be $100.
Yes.
Were they quick-dry material?
Patagonia, yes.
That shit's nice.
You're just paying for the label then.
But at least they're like a pretty woke company.
So they even took their tax breaks, and I think we're donating it to some environmental
fund, I think.
Good for them.
I don't know.
Yay.
Patagonia.
They need more positive publicity.
We're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment, Sarah.
But first we're going to take our listeners through what we're talking about today.
We're going to talk about how location based tracking is already an enormous business.
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how that went, and just about his demands that the world pay for his border wall.
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And Maria Bettina and other things.
But first, Sarah, what is something from your search history that is revealing about who you are?
So, look, I checked it right before I came in here and I was like, it couldn't be more
perfect.
Tudor dollhouse.
Oh.
So I got my old, part of my research into myself is I got a bunch of stuff from my house
from growing up and I brought it to LA.
And one of the things was my old dollhouse,
which is Tudor style in its architecture.
It's really beat up.
And I was going to give it to a friend
and let her fix it up for her daughter.
I don't have kids.
And she was like, it's too big for our space.
I mean, it's like a huge dollhouse.
It's like three feet high.
It's three floors.
It's beautiful.
And I decided I'm going to flip this dollhouse.
I'm going to flip it.
Dollhouse flippers.
I can't wait.
I'm going to like put it on my Instagram and make it like a series of me flipping this dollhouse.
Oh, shit.
I can't wait.
I started looking up paint colors.
And like.
Tiling.
Yeah.
Are you going to redo the bathroom floor with teeth?
Yes.
I need to kill a few people first.
That part I haven't figured out yet, but I'll get it done.
You'd be surprised.
You go to a lot of dentist's offices.
They'll hook you up with teeth.
They will.
Loose teeth.
That is an industry.
Yeah.
The cash for gold people.
Yeah.
Cash for gold people will take the dentist's teeth.
They'll be like, yo, hook it up.
But they're not supposed to.
I don't think they're supposed to do that, though.
That is disgusting. No, they are not supposed to. I don't think they're supposed to do that though. That is disgusting.
They are not supposed to.
I mean,
just teeth are gross,
but I would,
the idea of you doing a dollhouse flip is one of the greatest things I've ever heard.
Yeah.
It's me.
And if you know me,
this is like the most on brand thing that I collect miniatures,
anything mini.
And I have a little shelf in my,
several shelves in my apartment of just mini
stuff a lot of it is from my dollhouse growing up like little dishes and things from the dollhouse
okay i also collect like miniature animal figurines anything tiny right um and uh yeah so i have all
my dollhouse furniture from growing up and a lot of it's really nice it was like a hobby of mine i
would like save my money and then go to this place called the american store It was like a hobby of mine. I would like save my money and then go to this place called the American Store, which
was like a hobby store.
And I would buy the nice dollhouse furniture from there.
And are you going to redo the inside?
Are we talking new decor, like mid-century modern?
Maybe a Tudor exterior, but the interior is another story.
So I was like, it's not like a trendy architecture.
It's not mid-century modern.
Okay, that's fine.
But I did look up like Tudor, like modern, how to modernize the look of the outside so it doesn't look so old English.
But isn't that the point of Tudor?
I know.
And I was reading a whole website just in general about Tudor.
If you try to modernize it and make the colors more neutral, but it's against the original plan, which was dark and light brown and cream colored
no light should enter this house without passing through at least but i'm gonna shingle the roof
glass windows oh yeah i gotta shingle the roof it's gonna be great i might put electricity into
it you can like wire it and put lighting i hope that this ends up you being a full-on like
construction like flipping real houses you're like well i did the miniature version yeah i can do this have you ever been to gulliver's gate the giant like manhattan
scale model 187th i haven't because it i think it came after i after you left new york yeah okay but
i have been in the chicago museum of art or whatever their big that big museum is for
ferris bueller and them.
In the basement, we walked in and my boyfriend was like,
oh my God, Sarah, look.
It was a sign.
It was like miniature collection down the stairs.
And I was like, what?
And it was all dollhouse rooms up against the wall.
Like you looked in through a window.
Oh, nice.
Into a perfect, like they had light coming in from the,
I took pictures of them
and you can't tell
that they're miniature
from the picture
I mean they're so
it's so beautifully done
I was like
I just had like
full body goosebumps
going through that room
well I hope
I hope that this story
ends with you
looking at it and go
I can't give this up
yeah
well I know
that's the thing
I'm like where
I know I'm gonna want to keep it
but where the hell am I
it's really
there's no room in my house for it.
You need a reality show about miniatures.
Because miniatures totally capture the imagination.
Oh, 100%.
I haven't seen a really good show about it.
I'm going to a miniature convention next year.
Are you?
That's awesome.
Decided.
It's in October.
It's weird.
Because even if you say that, I'm just like, when I think about it, I'm like, yeah, I like
little versions of stuff.
Yeah.
I always wanted like a, because I don't have enough money for a proper Eames chair.
I'm like, well, I'll get the miniature Eames chair.
Oh, yeah, get the mini one.
For now, I'll look at that and then manifest a real life one.
And there's people who make full, fully functioning, you know, pieces of furniture, like a dining
room table that, you know, extends and puts a leaf in.
I mean, yeah, people make stuff.
It's just, the people who do it are just incredible artists
and I follow them all on Instagram.
I saw the Frances Glessner Lee collection.
You know her?
She basically built all these miniatures
of actual murder scenes,
like little dioramas.
And that was used to train detectives
back in the day.
Well, you know the movie Hereditary?
I haven't seen it.
The new horror movie.
Oh my God.
It came, I didn't know,
all I knew was it was a scary movie
and I love scary movies
and the previews
looked really good
and in the first scene
she's
making a dollhouse
oh
and my boyfriend was like
he looked at my face
I was like
smiling
like he was like
this is the best
this is the
and it was
I mean it was an incredible movie
wow dollhouses
shout out to dollhouses
having a big year
you're the dollhouse
we might have to
write that down.
Sharp objects.
Underrated.
Yeah, yeah.
Creepy.
Yeah.
What is something you think is overrated?
Okay.
Regular size stuff.
This is really old, and maybe this is why I think it's overrated, because it took me
so long to read it.
But the book Eat, Pray, Love, I finally read it.
Because a lot of people had told me, like, I got divorced. And they were like, you have to read Eat, Pray, Love. I finally read it. Because a lot of people had told me, like, I got divorced.
And they were like, you have to read E. Pray Love.
It's basically your life.
I'm like, I didn't go to Italy or India.
And I listened to the audio book.
And I was like, gosh, I don't know if this book would play today.
Because it's a little bit of a white lady going on a journey into other cultures and sort of.
Right.
So exotic.
Yeah.
It's a very,
she,
I thought it was,
you know,
it was well written,
but it wasn't what I thought it was going to be.
And it was like,
I was like,
Oh,
this is a little too,
you know,
fluff for me.
But,
but there was in the audio book,
she's like doing the accents of the characters.
Like the author is, you must come to see me.
And I'm like, no.
No, no, no, no, no.
I don't know if that would play.
She did it very well.
Okay.
Wait, was it the author or the performer?
The author, yeah.
Oh, no.
Yeah.
And I was a little like, I don't know.
I don't know.
It's an interesting book that I don't know how it would be received, the same book, just about white people going on, using other cultures to find themselves.
Find themselves, right.
Yeah.
But I thought she offered – none of it was egregious, but it was just a little bit like, hmm.
Yeah.
I tried to do Infinite Jest as an audiobook, and I only made it like two and a half months in
but the voices
there's like all these like voices like ethnic
voices that the guy does and it's
just really really not okay
it's weird yeah
one thing I like about Elizabeth Gilbert she gave
a TED talk a while back was really good on
the idea of like creative genius
and sort of how our definition of a genius
has evolved over time.
Very interesting discussion for people who are in the creative field.
Yeah.
I'll have to check it out.
But I've not seen any Prelov or read it.
But it felt like, yeah, one of those books at the time, they're like, this is the Bible.
It was very zeitgeisty.
Yeah.
Yeah.
What is something you think is underrated?
Okay.
This was really hard for me.
I don't, this is not underrated.
It's like one of the top
things of the year
that everyone agrees is great.
What's underrated?
This is not underrated.
It's not underrated,
but it's just something
I really love.
I guess I can say
it's underrated
because books in general
are underrated.
But the book,
I just,
also an audio book
because I do a lot of travel
and I listen to books
while I'm doing long drives. And the book i just also an audio book because i do a lot of travel and i listen to books while i'm doing long drives and uh the book educated um underrated in my world i'm forgetting um the
name of the woman who wrote it already is it educated a memoir yes by tara westover yes
tara westover it's about a woman who grew up in a survivalist sort of doomsday family in rural Idaho.
And she never went to school.
She learned how to read and write.
Just rudiment.
Right, right, right.
Rudimentary.
And then studied for the ACT.
I don't want to spoil it too much but she like got herself
into college based on a lie essentially
and showed up to college
not knowing anything
well like not having an education
aside from like I know how to whittle shit
and survive I don't know who
pick apart scrap metal with her dad
who believed the end of the world was coming and who
believed the Illuminati and everything was like
it is so
good it's so beautifully, it is so good.
It's so beautifully written.
It is.
She had an actress or a voiceover artist do the audio book and the person who did it was
just really, really good at the different voices and everything.
That is such an interesting life.
And it was just, I'll get, I just, it's not really giving anything away, but the one scene
that I was like, holy, I mean, there's so many holy shit moments in this book.
But she's in class in her first semester of college and there's – it's an art class and there's some picture and she's like – she like didn't understand something.
She asked a question and people were like looking at her like, what are you, crazy?
And the professor was like, very funny.
And she didn't know.
She's like, I know that I'm a freak, but I don't know why they know I am.
Right.
I don't know what I just said.
So she finds out that the picture or whatever she was referring to was the Holocaust.
She didn't know what the word Holocaust meant.
Oh.
I think that's what it was.
She had never heard of the Holocaust.
Right.
And like people were like thinking she was just being a total yeah like creepy
anti-semite or something like that i don't know what that is right no i mean just you know yeah
stuff like that like i i and and just the oh man it's just all of it a relationship with her there's
so much more to it that that's just the tip of the iceberg of this just the pitch of someone who
was raised a doomsday prepper goes to college and realizes they have actually no like functional education
in that sense of like history or these other things that sort of.
She ends up going and getting like a full ride to Cambridge for grad school.
I've already greenlit the movie.
It's Encino Man Meets With Honors.
Pauly Shore is the RA.
Yeah, that's definitely the tone of the book.
Mixed with Blast From The Past. we've got to get that underground bunker vibe.
And finally, what is a myth?
What's something people think is true you know to be false?
Oh, this is one I love telling people because I read something and it changed my life in a real practical way,
which was there was a point where I decided, oh, I'm just old now.
I have to pee in the middle of the night.
You don't.
Yeah.
You don't have to pee in the middle.
I'm sure someone has brought this up before.
No, no, but this is something I think about.
So you don't have to pee in the middle of the night.
You can actually sleep through the night.
You think you're being woken up by the need to pee,
but you probably were just woken up by something else
or disrupted sleep in some way.
And if you just go back to sleep you don't have to get
up and pee um you can hold it your body can hold it till the morning now some i think there are
exceptions where it's like when you wait when you have a dream that you're peeing your pants
you're peeing your pants and you're like it's like an emergency but i since i read that i tried it
and i've not gotten up to pee in the middle of the night for years wow that's I didn't know that because what I started doing was drinking less before I go to sleep.
And I was like, I'm like backloading all my hydration like at the end of the day.
Or like I get home and like I drink a lot of water and stuff.
It does.
And then I was like, oh, maybe I'm just filling up too soon, which is making me want to relieve myself in the middle of the night.
Yeah.
relieve myself in the middle of the night.
Yeah, I mean, I try not to, like,
over drink right before I go to bed.
Right. Because I don't want to even be bothered by that feeling.
Right. Even in the morning.
Yeah. But, uh,
yeah, you don't have to pee.
Just go back to sleep. Hold your pee. Go back to sleep.
Because once you get up, now you've disrupted.
Right. Now you're really awake,
and, like, it's gonna take longer to get back to sleep.
Now you've really disrupted your sleep in a more significant way
right yeah cause I'm always like
well man see if I pee I'll go back to sleep
that's right cause I'll use that logically
so if you just tell yourself you don't have to pee
you just woke up because you just woke up
it's okay go right back
go right back to sleep
it totally fucked with my perception
I found out that there's like medication you can take
that just basically makes it so you don't sense that you have to pee.
And like you can just go like they give it to you.
And then you pee your pants?
No, you just hold it way longer than you think.
It's just basically.
I mean, some of it is meant.
I mean, obviously, I would not recommend this to someone who's like.
Yeah, like bladder infection.
Yeah, or like a prostate issue issue or something where they really do
have to pee all the time.
I don't want you to pee your bed.
If you're a healthy adult.
If suddenly you've now convinced yourself
I have to pee in the middle of the night all the time
and you didn't before
maybe that's psychological.
It's a little like yawning.
I feel like you can psych yourself out
about having to pee too much.
Because yeah surgeons take that medication. I feel like you can psych yourself out about having to pee too much. Maybe.
Because, yeah, like surgeons take that medication.
That's how I found it out was surgeons take it.
If they have a long surgery, you don't want to have to pee.
They just.
I feel like if you're a surgeon, that's like the one job you can pee yourself
and no one can give you shit about it.
Wear a diaper.
Yeah.
But you do it.
I'm doing open heart surgery.
Oh, I can't pee my.
Okay.
We'll let my patient die on the fucking table.
Get the fuck out of here.
Yeah, maybe I pooed too a little bit.
Very complex procedure.
Really put it to use, the excuse.
How much farting goes on in operating rooms?
Oh, man, yeah, right?
You just made me think about that.
You know that's got to happen.
Because surgeons...
People are laughing.
Right, and you can't do a loud one
because then the surgical staff
could start laughing.
Yeah.
Right.
Oh, see, these are the kinds
of investigations we need to do.
Surgeons are the bros
of the medical community,
so they're probably...
They are?
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Really?
Yeah.
Just because they're hot shit
because they have a specialty
or whatever?
Well, and it's the one where you actually benefit from not having too much empathy
because you're just treating the human body like a piece of meat.
So it's like really empathetic, humanistic people,
whereas people who are just cocky and like, I'm a god.
I can do this.
Fuck this person.
Think they're better than people.
That's great, thinking about that.
Like you're under anesthesia and someone's operating on you and they're just like, let's
shred this bitch, bro.
Right.
Watch me flame this aorta, dog.
Wait, hold on.
For the kids.
For the kids.
A little something for the kids.
You know the nurses keep that.
And I'm stereotyping nurses as being generally female.
Right.
But I think statistically they are.
But like, you know, nurses keep that in check.
Yeah.
Right.
Chad, stop it.
Stop it, Chad.
Yeah.
Nurses are like the most important people at the hospital.
Oh, hell yeah.
They got to deal with context.
Right.
Yeah.
We should explain that a little something for the kids is something that super producer
Nick Stumpf's friend used to say before farting.
Before farting.
Yes. Back in old D.C. Here's something for the kids. and fart at kids is something that super producer Nick Stumpf's friend used to say before farting. Before farting, yes.
Back in old D.C.
Here are some fart at kids.
Oh, my God.
It's just so stupid, and it's become habitual here.
Yes.
Anyway, no surgeons do that, though.
No, no, never.
We're going to take a quick break.
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There are crooks everywhere you look now. The situation is desperate.
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And we wanted to start off just checking in with saint nicky of minaj minaj patron saint of sex crims yes blessed are those who commit sex crimes and uh are dating nicky
minaj yeah she will cape for you no matter what uh so was you know that she announced she had a
new boyfriend this guy kenneth petty And he looks like a nice guy.
He's 40 years old.
They used to know each other in high school.
He has a nice build.
Oh, he's also a convicted sex offender.
Right.
Okay.
And he was charged with basically using a sharp object to coerce a 16-year-old into having sex with him when he was also a minor.
Right.
But still, he is threatening someone with a sharp object for sex and then she was like in her
comments being like you guys can try and ruin my life go ahead but you can't go off internet uh
and then he also when he got out for that crime he also went back in because he shot a guy and
was convicted first degree manslaughter and it just i don't know it just seemed to be a theme
with nikki minaj because when she was on a track with Tekashi 6ix9ine, people were like, what are you, what's going on?
This guy was pled guilty to using a child in a sexual performance.
Right.
Wait, Tekashi?
Yeah, there was like a, he was in some video where there was like a minor doing some sex act.
I didn't know who that was until literally, I think it was last night.
Oh, really?
No, I literally had never heard it
of him
right
and my boyfriend
was like going off
he's like I don't
want to sound
like an old man
right
but rap these days
I mean there's
something wrong
and I was like
what
and he's like
this guy
Takashi69
he shows me
this video
of him freestyling
like in an ocean
and I thought
it was a prank like I thought it was the worst it was like it was it would be me freestyling like in an ocean and i thought it was a prank like i thought it was the worst it
was like it was would be me freestyling right right yo no he's like a lot of delays like yo
hold on i'm in the ocean shit nothing trying to get in motion yeah like oh yeah oh emotion uh
and the guys like bros around him are like, whoa, wisdom.
You know, like they're, it's the worst.
I was like this, something is going on with rap. The bar is getting lower and lower because motherfuckers aren't even clever anymore with rhyming.
It's just like every-
I mean, there are good, there are great rappers.
But there's also, yeah, like everything, like many art forms as it gets easier to kind of jump in.
There's a lot of crap. There's a lot of crap.
There's a lot of garbage, too.
And yeah, he's really popular.
And a lot of people, like especially in New York radio, like Ebro and Hot 97, people are
like, oh, why are you always hating on him?
Because like, dude, the guy's trash.
I don't know what you're saying.
He's like, you're old, man.
Sorry to diverge from the topic at hand, but I truly had never even heard of him.
No, yeah.
There's a lot of-
And I was like, oh my, what?
But you know, I feel the same way, but I'm an old head, as they him. No. Yeah. There's a lot of like, Oh my what? But you know, I feel the same way,
but I'm an old head as they say.
Right.
But also I don't,
I don't actually see sort of objectively like where the artistry is for him.
I get his energy.
I think might be infectious.
And if you're an angry teen and you don't know what to make sense of the
world,
then this resonates with you.
Well,
that's what we were talking about is that now our generation grew up with
rap.
Right.
So our parents could go, that's not music just because it's so different than anything we've heard.
But now we're in a world where older people are like, that's not real rap.
Right.
Rap is from when I was, you know, it's like, it's this whole new world of feeling old.
Yeah.
No.
And, but then to go along with it, you have people like Tekashi who's like on paper have engaged in criminal shit.
Right. He's facing a possible life sentence on some like rico charges like yeah he's i don't know like not a great guy and i i don't get it music was nikki what are you doing and yeah i i
feel like there's just always a cloud of sexual crime following her around. Well, yeah, and her brother was implicated in some shit. Right, her brother had some really awful shit.
Maybe she has a lower threshold
because she's been around it.
So she's like, it's not that bad.
Right.
It could be, yeah, for sure.
But it's just funny because those are times
when she butts heads with fans
or the ones who may not be a total Barbie crew
who are willing to overlook everything.
Right, yeah. Who do you think's more loyal? Barbies or Trump supporters? Or the ones who may not be a total Barbie crew who are willing to overlook everything. Right.
Yeah.
Who do you think is more loyal?
Barbies or Trump supporters?
Trump supporters.
Yeah.
Because at this point, he's a sex crime, racist, everything.
And they're still like, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Nothing's going to surprise me.
They're literally being like, he could shoot a guy and I'm fine. His sex criminality and racism
are the
monster-verse of
what he does. That's the
thing that made him in the first place.
I'm a motherfucking monster!
Go off!
This guy is the best!
I wanted to talk real quick
about this New York Times story about
location-based tracking, which is something that I was vaguely aware was happening in the background of my smartphone.
And it's apparently a $21 billion business.
The idea that an app will track you or serving people?
What is it?
They're selling the data.
They're selling your data.
So apps that track your location are keeping extremely close tabs on where you are.
They know where you live.
They know, okay, you're the only person who moves from this house to this place on a regular basis.
And IBM just bought the Weather Channels app because the Weather Channel is one of those apps that you always leave the location service on.
Foursquare remade itself as a location marketing company,
but $21 billion as an industry,
to put that in perspective,
billboards and outdoor marketing is a $7.1 billion industry,
and that's the highest it's ever been.
So it's triple that,
and that's a thing that we all know.
We all know we're under the influence of billboards when we see them because they're just fucking right there.
Yeah, that's why I love Altered Carbon.
Right.
On Netflix.
Yeah.
Exclusively.
Netflix is a joke.
Oh, wait.
Wrong genre.
Wait.
But yeah, there's this completely invisible industry that is three times the size of that.
I know someone who, I don't know them well, but it was like in a social gathering and this person was talking about how she worked briefly for Google.
And it's probably illegal for her to tell me this story.
So no one will know who I'm talking about. She said that her job was simply to put this device in her purse and find a reason to go into local business and stay in there long enough until she felt it vibrate.
And then she would get to leave.
And she never knew what it was for.
What the fuck? After a short while, because it was making her so uncomfortable, because she was like, she'd have to like an optometrist, like go in and be like, oh, I'm just looking at glasses, you know, just have to like make up a reason to be in there.
And then mid sentence it beeps and she's just like, oh, I'm I don't I changed my mind. that it was like surveying the space that it was like measuring like sending out little signals
and like creating sort of like a map of the store and then that data was going to be sold so google
was going to sell that data back to the businesses and go we can track because she's like it was
something to do with what you're talking about right where they were mapping the store and then
that data could be used in conjunction with people's phones.
So they could find out how long does someone stay at the front of the store?
How long do they stay in the back of the store?
I mean, we're talking like splitting squares down.
That's what this is.
They were looking at this rack for five minutes.
So that rack is very successful.
Yeah, that display was effective. You get high engagement in the lower left quadrant. Yeah, that display was, was effective.
You get high engagement in the left quad,
lower left quadrant.
Companies are buying this stuff.
I mean,
it's crazy.
Personally,
I'm just pissed that I don't have access to that information because I bet
it's fascinating.
Like there's all sorts of interesting shit about like how humans move in
groups,
like the way that they lay out grocery stores,
like they lay it out this way because that's the direction that humans circle
and also cows circle in that direction.
We prefer to go counterclockwise.
But then there was a change because Whole Foods,
to make themselves seem different,
changed it up so that their direction was in a different direction.
And now everybody wants to be like Whole Foods,
so they changed it to the opposite direction.
Wow.
It's just weird.
McDonald's,
they design,
I mean there's a million examples of this at McDonald's,
but they design their booths
to become uncomfortable after 20 minutes.
Right.
Oh, so you're like,
let's get the fuck out of here.
Right, they don't want you to stay in there
long enough to go,
this is disgusting.
Right.
It's true.
Like red and yellow are the proven colors that like make you uncomfortable.
Right.
And you want to get out.
Right.
Of that area.
And they're stressors.
So like.
Yeah.
It's like they researched everything.
Red is also a stimulant.
So it like causes,
it makes you more likely to make impulse decisions.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But then after 20 minutes,
you're like,
wait,
why are the floors so slippery? Is that fat just in the air? Yeah. Yeah. But then after 20 minutes, you're like, wait, why are the floors so slippery?
Is that fat just in the air?
Yeah.
No, that's it.
They don't want you thinking too hard about what you just ate.
All right.
Let's talk about the president and his wall.
He's back at it with this wall because it's still doing well.
And the only polling that matters, which is when he yells it
at a rally, people will chant it back at him. One of the ways this story is getting picked up is
that there are several outlets saying the fact that he's saying that he's just going to make
the military do it if Congress won't give him the permission to dedicate $5 billion to building the wall. The Democratic leaders plan to offer Trump $1.3 billion,
which mathematically is less than $5 billion, I believe.
Wow.
Master negotiator.
So he's like, fine, I'll just make the military do it.
But that is illegal unless you get approval from Congress.
Right.
Isn't that like declaring war or something?
It's more like a budgetary thing.
Like you can't take funds that have been designated for military defense and then just begin using
those for border security.
It's like, no, that's money that as a Congress we agreed to is for X, Y, and Z in the DOD
versus, so you can't just be like, oh, I think, well, since there's money there and they have,
I can use the Army Corps of Engineers, I think is
what his logic is. They'll just build
that. Right. But that isn't
going to work. And Papi, also, do you forget
you told everybody Mexico
was going to pay? Right. Yeah.
So what happened? He has forgotten about that. What happened
there, my man? They love that one, too, at
the rallies. Yeah. Who's going to pay for it? Mexico.
Yeah. Cut to them being like, eat shit yeah so i guess that also fed into today's really awesome
oval office petty fight petty showdown between chuck schumer nancy pelosi trump and pence who
mike pence credit to him kept his mouth shut the whole time because he was like oh god what a fucking
mess this is is there is there like a shift going on where pence is like all right i i need to start
thinking about my job yeah because like am i about to be president his chief of staff just turned
down the chief staff job the first person to ever turn that job down like that i just feel like
there was a shift maybe over the past week where once the Mueller stuff started coming out that he was directly implicated that people are like, all right, we got to start thinking about what happens after this.
But yeah, Pence kept his mouth shut.
Well, it was great because the whole thing, it was just meant to be one of those photo ops where they're in the Oval Office and you say, we're about to talk about this thing.
Right.
Get the photos.
Okay, everybody clear out. talk about this thing. Right. Get the photos.
OK, everybody clear out and then we can begin negotiating.
But Trump was doing he was real fucking messy with it from the beginning.
He was really trying to paint it as like, you know, I take border security very seriously.
National security is very important to me.
Unfortunately, Democrats don't agree.
Blah, blah, blah. You know, I want the wall and just framing it as if no border equals no national security,
therefore Democrats
are bad patriots.
And then he petulantly goes to Nancy Pelosi, goes, Nancy, do you want to say something?
And so she just started truth talking.
And she was like, thank you, Mr. President.
Let me tell you why everything you just said was wrong.
Not even that aggressively, but just sort of began saying things that were her talking.
Yeah, exactly.
And his first mistake was letting a
woman speak because we all know he hates women yeah who are smarter than him which are all women
uh most of the time and so they go on they start going back and forth he cannot stop interrupting
him uh but there are a few moments that i i think we just wanted to point out because they were very
very just kind of it's telling that uh nancy pelosi and Schumer were just like just they didn't they didn't care.
They didn't like the fact that he was doing all of this shit in front of the press.
So they let it be known.
So one of the first clips we're going to play is where Trump is basically incorrectly saying that, you know, he could get the wall built, but he just doesn't have the votes in the Senate.
And Chuck Schumer is just blocking him.
But he could do it in the House if he wanted to because he runs the House or whatever.
And Nance Floyd's just like, are you sure, my guy?
Right.
So is he, there are even Republicans in the House who don't want to do this?
Yeah, because there are people who are also like, it's a lot of money.
If you're really, like the few deficit hawks there are, they don't like the cost of it.
And also if you are in an area where you're not in a solidly red district that is wildly unpopular
with independent voters or anyone you may have to win over right especially you have like people of
color there who are just like this is a fucking just racist monument right like this is right
the house is a little bit trickier plus most if not all democrats are going to say no so he's
dealing with slim margins here now that the senate is a different story i mean like they have numbers
but they also need a they need more votes than he actually thinks. So anyway, this is Nancy Pelosi telling
Trump to pull up with that energy. But there are no votes in the House, a majority of votes for a
wall, no matter where you start. If I needed the votes for the wall in the House, I would have them
in one session. Go do it. do it. Then go do it.
Go do it.
Go do it.
Please.
By all means, sir.
Okay.
So that was okay.
So things were heating up a little bit.
And then at that point, Trump is just basically saying, well, if I don't get the wall, then
I'll shut down the government.
And Schumer and Pelosi are like, we don't want to do that.
Right.
That is bad for people.
That holds things up.
That causes a lot of chaos in D.C. and for people who
are dependent on government
services, it is not a good thing. We're telling
you, because he spent the beginning part
saying, everything's really
great at the border right now. We're stopping
95% of this. Like, was making up weird
facts that not even they could follow where
these statistics were coming from. Right, because he was saying
the wall is working. We're
stopping 95%. Yeah. He said they caught 10 terrorists at the Because he was saying the wall is working. We're stopping 95%.
Yeah.
He said they caught 10 terrorists at the southern border.
But the wall doesn't exist.
Right.
But that's where he's being caught in lying and also trying to paint himself as a guy
who's doing well.
So then Chuck Schumer is like, well, if it's doing fine, then that's what I'm saying.
I'm offering you the same funding I offered you last year.
And if it's doing well, then what's the problem?
Like, we'll only build on that.
He also said, you've only spent 6% of the $1.3 billion we you last year and if it's doing well then what's the problem? We'll only build on that. He also said, you've only spent
6% of the $1.3 billion we
allocated last year, so why do you need
even more money now? You haven't even used $1.3
billion. So anyway,
then he really puffs his chest down and just
sort of saying, I want my fucking wall. I don't care
if the government shuts down. I'll take the hit
because that's how down for the wall
I am. And I think that even confused
everyone else because you don't want to own this at all.
So we'll listen.
I am proud to shut down the government
for border security, Chuck,
because the people of this country
don't want criminals and people
that have lots of problems
and drugs pouring into our country.
So I will take the mantle.
I will be the one to shut it down.
I'm not going to blame you for it.
The last time you shut it down, it didn't work. I will take the mantle. I will be the one to shut it down. I'm not going to blame you for it. The last time you shut it down, it didn't work.
I will take the mantle of shutting down.
And I'm going to shut it down for border security. But we believe you shouldn't shut it down.
Thank you very much, everybody.
That's how we ended it.
Yo, people are like, shut the fuck up.
You gave up the one card you have to play in a shutdown thing is to be like, it was them.
And when you're out here being like, I will take the blame.
Huh?
Yeah.
But one final parting gift I just do want to leave with you is when Chuck Schumer just counterpunched the shit out of Trump.
Because at one point, Nancy Pelosi brought up the idea. She was like, well, you know, the problem in the House is you also have Republicans, 50 or so of my colleagues,
who will be leaving office because of the unsure direction of this administration being like,
you had a losing strategy midterms and got torched.
And so he started, but I won the Senate.
I won the Senate.
And this is him getting really defensive about how he won the Senate and Schumer with a great clap back.
Excuse me.
Did we win the Senate?
We won the Senate.
When the president
brags that he won North Dakota and Indiana,
he's in real trouble.
Drop the bomb, Chuck.
Schumer, although I do not
like how you've done things
up to this point, I did like that clip.
That was pretty good.
It was, you know, this is
I think a preview of things to
come of what could happen with, especially Nancy Pelosi now. I mean, I think some commentators
were like, oh, I don't know if that's going to look good for her. People who like, you know,
want to have her be speaker if they want to work with the president. It's like, I don't know how
many people are really being like, we want Nancy Pelosi because she's going to work with the
president. Right. So much as like someone who's going to stand up for like what Democrats are trying to do and not caved and appease this man.
So we'll see.
Yeah.
And then just real quick on the president, just going with what we were saying earlier about maybe people kind of backing away from him.
Napolitano, who has always been a source of great frustration on my end when I look at Fox News clips of him and he's just, you know, seems to exist in a different universe.
He came out and said that Trump may actually be in trouble.
And it was the first time that he seemed to acknowledge that.
Yeah.
I mean, he's always sort of flip flopped.
Like he'll do things like be like, yeah maybe obama did do some wiretapping to put
saying that shit in his ear but then also be like i'm on jim acosta's side he didn't judo
chop anyone this is wrong uh and then like but when it comes to like legal stuff he typically
will put his judge hat on and be like this is not good right even to me a sycophant so yeah this is
a his very sane take on the legal jeopardy the president might be in
what's your position on what we think we know right now is of late friday that the most dangerous to
the president uh filing last week was the filing by federal prosecutors here in new york professional
prosecutors not bob muller's team saying that the president paid michael cohen to commit a crime
now under the law that would make the president as criminally liable as Michael Cohen.
So if you pay me to shoot somebody and I shoot them, you're as liable as if you had pulled
the trigger.
That's the basic principle of law.
This is the Southern District of New York.
This is the oldest and most prestigious federal prosecutor's office in the country.
They would not make an allegation like that if they did not have
corroborated evidence to support it and they cannot make an
Allegation like that unless they're gonna do something with it now
The director Comey is right the Justice Department has all kinds of rules and regulations
They have three legal opinions on whether a sitting president can be indicted to say no and one says yes
But all three agree that if the statute
of limitations about is about to expire then the government needs to do something to stop the
running of the statute of limitations which would mean a secret indictment about which the public
doesn't know yikes damn i don't know how you watch fox and are like he's gonna be fine no
collusion it's all good it's all i just yeah saw earlier today a headline, I didn't click on it yet, but about that some, you know,
Trumpkin, like MAGA people are starting to actually go like, oh, maybe there is something
to worry about here.
Like some of his hardcore fans.
Yeah.
That's the most we can hope for.
It's like the fact that you needed this much information to be suspicious is really disappointing.
Right.
It's like he's cheating on you.
Just because I found that underwear that's not mine in his car doesn't mean he's cheating on me.
He's cheating on you.
Just because your cousin saw him with that woman doesn't mean he's cheating on you.
Here's a video of him fucking this woman.
Oh.
Okay.
Maybe he's cheating.
I don't know.
Maybe.
Right.
Right.
There's a maybe.
Maybe he's doing something. Yeah. I don't know how you, I don't know. Maybe. Right, right. If that's enough, then maybe he's doing something.
Yeah, I don't know how you – I don't know what's going to happen.
It's so unprecedented.
Yeah.
So, I mean, he seemed to be saying that the Mueller investigation doesn't worry him for the president,
but the whole paying off Stormy Daniels, paying off people.
In a way, well, because they have actually come out with the connective tissue to be like this is what it is and also he's just that's his partisan shot to be
like respected prosecutors not muller's people right it's like okay yeah he still had to show
you he was still fox i mean the thing that you always hear is that john edwards did the same
thing he paid a woman off or paid somebody hush money to keep a affair quiet and it didn't well
his wife was dying while his wife was dying and it wasn't good for his political career but it did
like get taken to court but then it ultimately got you know he he was not found guilty i think
it was a hung jury right well i think in a lot of people they take the misstep of just pointing
the fact that he wasn't convicted as saying these aren't really bad things rather than they clearly found it as a prosecutable offense.
Right. Prosecutors believe that the judge thought so. It's just that they didn't have the evidence in their case to be like, yeah, this is this is what he did.
And here's the proof. Whereas now you're looking at like you have people like Michael Cohen who have who's already like admitted to being guilty to doing this stuff.
There's a huge difference in those cases.
But I think as a precedent that does exist in terms of Trump being liable for this kind of behavior.
Yeah. This Times article was saying that Edwards case had little corroboration from other key figures in the transaction, whereas Trump's case has the guy who'd made the transaction.
Right. Like he told me to do it. Yeah. And even though as much as he tries to dismiss it in the GOP. whereas Trump's case has the guy who'd made the transaction being like,
he told me to do it.
Yeah.
And even though,
and as much as he tries to dismiss it and the GOP,
they've also done the,
well,
is it really like crime?
Private matter.
And Kevin McCarthy was like,
well,
then a lot of people,
if that's campaign finance violation,
a lot of us have to go,
I'm sorry.
Oh,
so all y'all do.
What the fuck are you saying?
So it's a very,
very strange time for them because you can only say crimes aren't crimes.
Truth isn't truth so much until like you really got to pay the piper.
And I mean, one thing the judge Napolitano mentioned at the end is the possibility that they can actually file because, you know, they've said that they won't indict a sitting president.
actually file because you know they've said that they won't indict a sitting president and people have taken that to mean oh he can just run out the clock and you know if he gets re-elected then
he'll be past the statute of limitations and i think the judge pointed out that you could actually
file a secret indictment secrets secrets so that would actually like stop the clock on the
statute of limitations.
So that is not good for him.
But if we never find out about it,
Well, I think we would the second
he left office. Oh yeah, we
secretly indicted you a while back.
That's assuming we all survive to see
the end of his administration, which
we shall see. Alright,
we're going to take another quick break.
We'll be right back.
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And we talked yesterday on our episode with Paige Weldon
about Airbnb.
And she said that Airbnb is overrated.
And they reached out to us.
And apparently they're great.
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Yeah, so I mentioned a long read yesterday, which happened to occur because the journalist
who reported it was the son of the person who was killed by this faulty swing at an
Airbnb that their family was renting.
Wait, a faulty swing?
Yeah, his dad went out and sat on a swing that was hanging from a branch of a tree and the tree
was dead and the branch just tore off.
And hit him in the head?
Hit him in the head and killed him.
Oh, awful.
Yeah.
It was just like, it's the sort of thing that wouldn't happen at a hotel or like any other
rental property that had standards for safety.
Yeah, safety standards.
Or at least maintenance of things.
Right.
And so that was the point they were making.
And because the person writing it was the son of the person who was killed,
he sort of had a lot of interaction with Airbnb through the legal process.
And they just got rid of any obligation to make things right and just put all
the legal liability on the people who owned the house. So that was just, I was wondering if that
was like one bizarre one-off or a sign that there's a larger problem with Airbnb and they've
just done a good job of keeping a lid on it. And there have been a couple other
high profile stories. And actually I was just looking at the cover of the USA Today as I do,
because I'm 80 years old. And they had an article actually about how Airbnb is sort of taking a hit
because a lot of these high profile deaths that have happened in the past couple months have
happened at Airbnb. So there was a woman who went missing last week in Costa Rica.
She had taken a vacation there to celebrate her 36th birthday, I think,
and was murdered by the security guard at the villa she was Airbnb-ing.
And then a New Orleans couple died from a carbon monoxide leak
at a home in Mexico that they were Airbnb-ing. And a family
of four from Iowa died in Tulum in a condo with a propane leak, which you can normally smell,
but apparently that was just like so overpowering, it killed them all quick enough that they couldn't
get out of the house. That last one was actually Home Away, but it's basically the same model of
this huge new industry of people who are just like,
yeah, you can come stay at my death trap.
And the question they ask is, could Airbnb have done anything to prevent these deaths?
And because it's the USA Today, they're not going in hard.
They just said, in the case of the carbon monoxide poisoning,
Airbnb says that it requires its hosts to follow the laws of the city, state,
and country in which it is located. It won't list properties unless hosts agree to do this.
So it's just like a box you check. Do you agree to follow the law?
Uh-huh. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Totally. Mexico does not require smoke or carbon monoxide detectors
in every household. Airbnb distributes free smoke and carbon monoxide detectors to hosts
who request it. Who request them.
Right.
To people who request it.
They're not even saying, if you want to do this, you have to put one of these shits up in your house.
Right.
They're just saying, hey, if you want one, we'll give you one.
But this is just Airbnb's business model, essentially, is they've taken away the difficult part of, you know, all the red tape and regulations that were, that has come to be like a bad thing in America, even though it's there to save people's lives.
And they get to just ingest these rental properties
into their company without having any actual standards.
Yeah.
I travel so much.
In the beginning, I was...
Because I do a lot of colleges,
and you get paid a flat fee.
And so you're paying for your own travel out of that.
So I would try to cut corners and save as much money as possible and over time i just realized
airbnb in general i did not feel safe yeah just you know you get there and you're like oh this
isn't what i thought it was gonna be all right this is or this is it smells weird in here and
there was like two dogs fighting you know, things like that. Just in the living room when you walked in?
That was in LA when I first moved in.
Yeah.
Okay.
So I do hotels normally.
Sometimes I will do an Airbnb and I've had great experiences.
But in general, these types of services are risky.
And Uber, I had a traumatic experience
and I just don't want to ever take a Lyft or an Uber again.
Really?
And it wasn't that bad, but it was enough to scare me enough.
Like it was me and my boyfriend.
We got picked up 7 a.m., go to the airport.
They know they're taking me to the airport.
It's not like a surprise.
And get in.
And the guy was like blasting Tainted Love at 7 a.m.
And he had kind of a crazy look to him.
Like he was like, did he just wake up or is he still awake?
Yeah.
And my boyfriend was like, hey, the bass is really loud back here.
The levels.
Like he was trying to make it so it wasn't like it's too loud.
He was trying to be like, oh, you don't understand how loud it is back here.
You mind cueing that real quick?
Yeah.
He was like, could you turn the bass down and he's like kind of look confused
and started turning it down and i was like trying to lighten the mood so i was like it's bumping back
here and uh he dramatically his name is jonathan jonathan dramatically in made an illegal u-turn
in like rush hour traffic like near our house we're in rush hour traffic near our house.
We're maybe two minutes away from our house at this point.
And slams on the brakes at the side of the street and goes, I'm taking you back.
And I was like, what?
I was so confused.
He was like, I'm dropping you off.
And I was like, why?
And he was like, because we asked to turn the music down.
He was like, just your general attitude.
And he took off speeding down our like skinny,
scary street.
Oh wow.
Slams on the brakes in front,
got our luggage out,
which I thought was weird.
And then looked at us like,
have a nice life.
Wow.
And I,
and I've got charged $8 for it.
I was like,
come on.
And I decided not to even,
I gave him a one star review,
but I did not like go after Uber. I just was like, I'm not, I don him a one-star review, but I did not like go after Uber.
I just was like, I'm not, I don't want to deal with this.
But like, it was so like, it took enough time where we felt like we had to drive and then
we had to pay so much for parking at the airport.
And like, it was, it was this whole thing.
So anyway, since then I've been really, I don't want to take Uber ever again.
Yeah.
You have one bad experience and it's like,
I don't,
what am I,
what have I been doing?
I've just been getting in the car with these total,
most of them are professional and very people just trying to make it.
My brother-in-law drives Uber and it's his second job.
Like,
you know,
they're just trying to make extra money,
but you just don't know who it is.
Well,
it's hard to regulate too,
because like,
even when people have complaints about a driver, you don't know what their methodology is for
addressing that it can be like oh we spoke to them and they're fine because this guy had a
almost a perfect five-star review yeah like you know so we got him on a day that he was crazy
i mean like what you know and my boyfriend like he was like he stopped talking because he was like i can tell
this guy's nuts just very yeah you know so yeah i mean that is similar with airbnb you just don't
really know yeah what you're getting yourself into i mean that's the entire business model
is they've taken away the difficult part and they put all the liability on the people who
are desperate enough to make money that they're renting their apartments out or who are driving.
And it's easy to take that risk before anything happens.
But yeah, and then the risk ends up coming down to the end user.
But we just kind of click on it because it's convenient.
Yeah.
But yes, somebody's got to
pay for safety checks both of like with uber and training and retrofitting well yeah i think that's
where their their lobbying money comes into play where they're like hey man let's can you keep a
blind eye on this for a little bit don't make it hot for us with the regulations yeah they just
assume the homeowner is doing like the safety safety checks. And in certain cases, they're putting their users' lives at risk.
And I think they're basically saying, you know, the loss of life is worth the cost or
the risk to us.
Like, this is how much we'll get sued for.
And this is like worth it in the end, because doing all that retrofitting, doing all that
training would cost this much.
And that's just too much.
And, you know, they're a corporation.
Yeah, it's fucked up.
On Friday, I was going to someone's birthday, a coworker's birthday.
And my Uber driver almost got me in a fight.
Really?
Because he was about to fight somebody.
Jesus Christ.
Like, he slammed the brakes because someone honked at him.
Oh, road range?
He almost hopped out of his car
and not that I was gonna
have to get involved
but like
I'm also a passenger
I would be like
my natural inclination
as a human
would try and be like
hey hey hey
what the fuck
knock it off
yeah exactly
but like
so you know
sometimes people get hot
and you never know
what to do
yeah
I have definitely been
in Ubers
that were being driven by somebody who was
just incredibly high on cocaine,
like multiple Ubers,
like just like actors who are like,
yeah,
man,
I'm making it happen.
And I'm just doing this for a little extra work.
But you know what I'm saying?
Like,
and just like making insane decisions.
You never want,
you never want someone where you're like,
this person is high.
Yes.
Like right now.
Yeah. And then my part of me would be like, I'm too polite to be like, this person is high. Yes. Like right now. Yeah.
And then my part of me would be like, I'm too polite to be like, sir, are you fucked up?
Yeah.
You'd just be like, well, I guess it's only a short drive.
Yeah.
And he did come up with a pretty cool business model for a sports bar where you had to answer trivia to get in.
So only real fans come in.
You know, so he has some good ideas.
Yeah.
Well, Sarah, it's been a pleasure having you on the Daily Zeitgeist.
Thank you for having me.
Where can people find you?
Instagram, SarahShafer1.
Okay.
Twitter, SarahShafer1.
Mm-hmm.
My Etsy shop is Bobo's Nook.
What do you do on Etsy?
Miniatures?
No miniatures yet.
Ah.
I can't make those.
I'm not that skilled.
But I do some embroidery stuff.
Oh, okay.
And I have like a little inspirational quote on a rustic piece of driftwood in multiple fonts, which is literally what it says.
It's like making fun of those signs.
Inspirational quote.
Right, right, right.
Yeah.
So, yeah.
All right, Bobo's neck.
It's a little copy of mine.
Get copped the craft goods.
And is there a tweet you've been enjoying?
You know, no, because I've been on a Twitter diet,
and I'm only allowed on Twitter one hour a day.
I have an app that limits my time on there,
and I don't really read.
I'm barely on it now because the diet did the trick.
There you go.
I'm not addicted to it anymore.
That is smart.
It has changed my life.
Really.
I'm serious.
My life has started maybe three and a half months ago,
the change in my general happiness is noticeable.
Right, right, right.
And the amount of stuff I've gotten done is unbelievable.
I'm flipping a dollhouse, y'all.
I know.
You're out here.
We're going to make that reality show happen.
Miles, where can people find you?
Twitter, Instagram, at Miles of Grey.
Tweet I like is from Blaine Capich.
It says, you like dogs?
Well, name three of their albums.
That's a stupid tweet, but I love that.
Tweet I've been enjoying is from at Cash Bones with a Z.
He tweeted, you're only allowed to call it a monster energy drink
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