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Hello, the internet, and welcome to this episode of the weekly Zeitgeist. These are some of
our favorite segments from this week, all edited together into one nonstop infotainment
edited together into one nonstop infotainment laughstravaganza.
Yeah.
So without further ado, here is the weekly zeitgeist.
My first hour here yesterday,
someone told me to go get lunch somewhere because I had time to kill before I could check in.
I was like, why don't I go,
somebody goes check out that fountain coffee
room place in that Beverly Hills
hotel thing. It's like
some downstairs, you know, whatever.
So I walk in there and sit down. I'm like, oh, this is
pretty, you know, $25 for a sandwich.
I'm like, all right, I'm officially in
Los Angeles. And then it
became even more LA because like two
seconds later, Justin
Bieber and his wife walk in
and sit right next to me the entire meal.
Really?
I'm just like, yeah.
And like nobody bothers them.
Nobody talks to them.
And I'm just like, this is the most LA I've ever felt.
You know?
Did they pray over whatever they ordered before consuming?
Dude, I mean, I got to be honest.
There wasn't a lot of talking between them.
You know?
I don't know what was going on.
On their phones?
Yeah. A lot on their phones. And just there was some tension there. there wasn't a lot of talking between them. I don't know what was going on.
A lot on their phones.
There was some tension there.
I got to tell you,
Hayley is just breathtaking.
I didn't immediately recognize who she was, but when she walked
in, you know when you just see somebody
and you go, I don't know who that is, but I
know they're wildly famous.
You know what I mean?
Then he walked in and I was like like oh that's of course yeah yeah
yeah but um you know they seemed pretty nice i guess like a skateboarder from skid row and a
model yeah cool yeah is that just a new vibe like is that i wonder younger listeners uh is it normal
just to be on your phones all the time is Is that like the new younger people shit? I feel bad when I'm on the phone too much, like around somebody.
But it feels normal.
That's where I get weirded out.
Where it's like, well, you're doing your thing on your phone.
I'm doing my thing.
But it's like, this used to not be.
Well, you know what it is too?
This is why I feel like kids are more socially awkward now.
It's because they don't, whenever they're in like a party,
and then there's an awkward moment of silence,
and they don't know what to do, they bust the phone. It's like they're in like a party and then there's an awkward moment of silence and they don't know what to do they bust the phone it's like they're a haven instead of having to overcome that weirdness
by either making conversation or talking to somebody yes it is which is so bizarre to me
but it's like you know i'm sure it's it's great to have for sure but i think it's stunting uh you
know social growth i forgot my phone actually precisely in this kind of situation on going to a party
where I didn't really know many people
and at first I was like oh fuck
I'm going to have to
pantomime having a phone
because I'm not talking to nobody and then I just
like was able to just kind of sit there when you actually don't
have it I didn't even think about it I was like
you know what what's up man?
Sit in that discomfort
ask the uncomfortable question
of, hi, what's your name?
How are you doing? I love when somebody
takes the phone out and they hold it,
but they don't... As you're talking
to them, they kind of have it
ready to go.
Whenever this takes a turn,
I'm going in.
I'm joined in. I will face ID
the fuck out this thing. Stay interesting.
So close.
You are one boring story. What part of Long Island going in. I'm joined, yeah. I will face ID the fuck out this thing. Stay interesting. So close. Yeah.
You are one boring story.
What part of Long Island
are you from?
I'm from out in Suffolk County,
way out in center.
Oh, where Bagel Boss is from.
Yeah, exactly.
Actually, it's-
Do you claim him?
Yeah, you claim him.
I mean, honestly,
when I saw that video
and everybody that I know
from Long Island,
when we saw that video,
we were like,
this is just the first time
someone's pressed record.
This is such a normal occurrence.
Like, not just that guy, but I mean,
that's just people fighting in bagel stores
about being short.
The boss of me.
An Italian, like, it's just such,
and it didn't, I was like, oh, yeah,
and then the fact that it went so viral.
I'm curious, for a Suffolk County native, in his videos where he's like, I'm like, oh, yeah. And then the fact that it went so viral. What, I'm curious for a Suffolk County native,
in his videos where he's like,
I'm trying to fuck, all right?
I'm going on this boat.
Email my manager, only women from Suffolk County.
This is post-Fan Bagel Boss.
Post-Fan Bagel Boss,
when he's just trying to fuck on IG Live
and saying it had to be from Suffolk County.
Is he thinking of a specific kind of woman when he says that?
100%.
Or is it that it's just local? No, no, no. So what is he envisioning? It of a specific kind of woman when he says 100 or is it that it's
just local no no no uh what so what is he it's a specific type of uh suffolk county women long
island women in general for the most part are like italian brunettes uh blondes only with the
highlights you know i didn't know i like i didn't know that i always grew up and i was like man i
really am attracted to blonde women with dark eyebrows.
And then I was like, oh, I eventually realized like, oh, that's just a brunette woman with
blonde hair.
That's how that works.
But no, Suffolk County would mean usually overly tan brunette, maybe with some like,
you know, blonde highlights.
And because Nassau County is known more for money.
So also Suffolk County is a little more trashy.
So there's a little more like middle class,
lower middle class, you know.
Where's Teresa Capito from?
Long Island medium.
That I'm not sure.
Okay.
Because I feel like that's what I'm envisioning.
But yeah.
That's like a level five Suffolk County.
A comedian friend of mine,
a New York City comedian is very funny.
Brennan Sagalow,
has a joke where it's very,
I think it sums it up very well
where it's like,
Long Island women
like to do a thing
where they'd be like,
let me suck your balls.
You know what I mean?
Like B-A-W-Z.
You know?
Wow.
Shout out to the Long Island medium
who we all are imagining
sucking someone's balls now.
My mom is all into those things too.
All of the Long Island Medium,
John Edwards.
If you can tell her that,
you know,
a past pet is okay,
she'll give you money.
You know?
Loved lucky.
Loved lucky.
What is something you think is overrated?
Overrated is,
you know what?
I feel like people pay way too much attention
to what people say.
Okay. Yeah. Overrated., you know what? I feel like people pay way too much attention to what people say. Okay.
Yeah.
Overrated.
Like, okay, number one for me as a dialoger, I figure out what I'm trying to say as I talk about it.
So I've never all that invested in anything that I say or other people say.
I always assume it's evolving.
Interesting.
Oh, like versus like, I need to actually figure out everything I'm about to say right now before i say it and then i'll say it yeah and then being
like really really invested in that got you you're just kind of like i'm channeling energy i'm feeling
right now based on a given topic and then i'm i'm fluid yeah i'll make a move we can move with the
wind i think the strongest i've ever felt the most, staunch belief I've ever had is in how much I love candy corn.
Oh, boy.
And I know you're looking right dead in my eye.
Into your soul.
Yes, I recall saying, I don't like candy corn.
And you came after me on Instagram.
And I was like, I may need protection.
That wasn't the only social platform I used.
But yes, that was the one place. the only social platform I used, but yes,
yes, I know.
That was the one that really got to me though.
I was like, Oh no, she's, she's aware.
Is there, can you tell me why you think candy corn is good?
Ah, you would like me to explain why sugar tastes good.
Huh?
I guess.
What is the flavor of candy corn?
Vague vanilla sugar.
Yeah. Is there vanilla in it? corn? Vague vanilla sugar? Yeah.
Is there vanilla in it?
Is vague a challenge for you?
Yeah, I don't know.
It's just not.
Do you have to be like, this is chocolate.
Done.
You can't have discovery.
I'm just so rigid.
I'm just like, what is the definition of this flavor?
If it's too ambiguous, I am gone.
Phytoplankton and sugar. How much
carbon is in this? It has a
butterscotchy aftertaste.
It does. That's a good way of describing it.
Because I've always been closeted
candy corn lover. Do you see what happened?
I made
room for him. He was
closeted in his love.
This is probably why he's going to leave me for you.
Do you like the pumpkins?
If you cry, I'm going to cry.
No, you guys just do your show. This sounds really cool.
I'll just sit back here.
Do you like the pumpkins?
Oh my God, the pumpkins?
I really love the pumpkins.
We're dealing with the same sort of
base material, but shaped as a pumpkin.
Shaped as a pumpkin.
The coloring is a little bit more-
Intense orange, I've realized.
Yeah, bright orange.
It is bright green.
And how much does it stick to your teeth?
That's the other thing I remember is I feel like there-
That's the best part is when candy sticks to your teeth.
I hate that shit.
It melts away slowly with your tea and your coffee.
I was going to say, it melts away your teeth slowly.
Well, that too.
It breaks down your enamel to the point where your cavities develop.
But then cavities are just little places for the sugar to hide.
So that you have little sugar treats that are later on coming out.
Listen, I am proud of every root canal that I've had thanks to you, Candy Corn.
I've only had to you, Candy Corn. Yeah.
I've only had one and it failed.
I just was cracking up listening to you guys because you were listing all of my loves.
Wax lips.
Right.
I love wax lips.
That's like eating straight up a candle.
It's the best.
You eat that shit, right? How do you not want to eat a candle, Miles?
Isn't that other one like a wax cola bottle candy too?
Yeah.
I feel like your paradigm on this is all wrong.
If somebody came to me and was like, you could munch on your laptop, Zara, if, I'd be like, I'm ready.
You're like, hold on, not your laptop right now that you're munching on.
I'm sorry, what were you, finish the sentence?
It's not made of sugar,
but I mean,
you guys all saw
Willy Wonka
and the Chocolate Factory.
There's the room
where you get to eat everything.
You know what it is?
It's the textures,
I think,
is when I really think about it
because I don't like
the waxy shit
because it evokes
literally a candle
in my mouth.
Yeah.
So it's like,
this isn't a thing I'd eat.
Sounds so sexy.
And then the,
just eating it.
They're like,
I've been kicked out
of every candle store in this city.
Try and go to a candle store with my fucking faces
and plastered all over the walls.
Welcome to my life.
But yeah, and I think with candy corn,
it's that I realize on,
I like chocolatey sweets the most.
If there's a hierarchy,
like fruity ones rank low.
Jelly beans are at the very bottom.
Bottom?
Yeah.
So because it's like in that similar like chewy thing.
Like Starbursts, I like more.
I hate Starbursts.
But they get stuck to my teeth.
Laffy Taffy, I feel like they've finally done something with the formula.
Because this year eating some Laffy Taffy, it wasn't stuck all in my fucking teeth.
You know what's a beautiful in-between of Laffy Taffy and Starburst is Airheads.
Yeah, Airheads are good. Yeah, love those.
I think I like all candy, I've just discovered.
Yeah, okay.
Pan candy.
Pan candy.
Except I don't like
jelly beans
that are just jelly bean flavored.
Yeah, that's annoying.
What is jelly bean flavor?
It's just almost like
it takes a
step, like gives a head
fake towards licorice, but isn't licorice.
Right.
Can you almost taste like
crystallized granules of sugar
like inside some jelly beans? Like there's a little
crunch to it. You know what, you're right. There is an upside.
Yeah.
I like that.
That's it.
What is something you think is underrated?
Okay.
Well, first off, I'll give you
a local one and then a universal one.
Just from being in Los Angeles
for 24 hours, I'm going to say
walking is underrated here because
I walked
yesterday from Beverly Hills
to West Hollywood
and when I told people that
they acted like I was
Forrest Gump that just got done with the crosscut
like someone threw a foil blanket over me
I was like what?
Did you use an IV? Yeah I was like it's two miles
they're like two miles what are you crazy
like was Uber down?
you're like what?
it's 73 degrees it's the perfect walking
weather
so that's what I would say is underrated here You're like, well, it's 73 degrees. It's the perfect walking weather.
So that's what I would say is underrated here.
But universally, I got to say, I just made this connection recently.
I have a thing where every time I hear a helicopter, I have to find it in the sky.
You know what I'm saying?
I know what it is, but I need to find it.
Threat identification. Yeah. And not even because I think it's going to be a threat. I'm saying? Like, I know what it is, but I need to find it. Threat identification.
Yeah.
And not even because I think it's going to be a threat.
I'm just like,
that's a helicopter, right?
And I got to see it.
And the feeling of finding it
for some reason
is such a great feeling
where you're like,
it's not a cat.
I love that.
You know what I mean?
Like, whatever it is,
we all have to find it, right?
You got to find it in the sky.
Kind of congratulate yourself.
I know exactly that feeling.
The one I really, the small victory I sense is when, you know, like it's a big sound,
so you don't quite know the direction it's coming from.
When you almost go, it sounds like here, but I know it's here.
And you look and you're like, exactly.
That's right.
Yeah.
It's the best feeling.
Growing up living underneath a flight path of an airport, you hone those aircraft sound skills.
But that's one thing I really, it's funny,
I was in an Uber recently and the fucking,
I heard a fucking like heavy military helicopter.
And I was like, oh shit, what is that?
Like a Chinook or something?
And I look up and I fucked up.
I looked the wrong way.
And then it was the other one.
And in my mind I said, you knew it was the other side.
You fool. And you fucking broke your neck trying to look out the back. There's something forever. the wrong way and then it was the other one and in my mind I said you knew it was the other side you fool
there's something forever
like it's like not being able to scratch
an itch if you don't find it you know
and then it's out of your sight line you're like god damn
oh for sure it hurts
there's one thing I know it's the sound of a helicopter
in the sky
it's like that's a real man's man
these are things that become
relevant again when you
have like a three-year-old three-year-olds fucking love helicopters it's like such a treat when a
helicopter flies oh yeah well any large mechanical object fucking anything flying through the sky
you ever take them to like the the fire department like when they're just out there for free just a
construction site is like we'll stop
we'll pull over and just look at a construction site for like 20 minutes yeah he knows all the
different all the different trucks crane truck telescoping crane like bulldozer different types
of excavators like it's wow i don't even know that he's like teaching you yeah yeah i didn't know that shit. What is something you think is underrated?
Y'all are gonna...
Influencers.
Underrated.
Yes.
Okay.
Why?
Because, and obviously we'll get into the whole likes thing and Instagram stuff later.
But I see, especially because of that stuff, I've seen so much stuff on the internet about
like, oh, well, that'll shut down these fucking influencers and fuck them.
And like they don't have real jobs and blah, blah, blah.
But I think everyone fails to remember that.
You can speak about it first person plural.
We as influencers.
We.
Guys, we have feelings.
feelings but like i have definitely seen something on the internet at some point or another on instagram or on facebook or on twitter and been like oh that looks like a cool thing i want to
try that and then i go try that thing and i get enjoyment but guess what if i had nowhere to
discover that thing i don't fucking walk down the street i don't fucking walk down the street. I don't fucking. Walk down the street. The street.
You made it sound so fancy.
I don't just like go into random buildings and be like,
what y'all have for me in here?
What's going on?
What is in store for me in here?
Like I,
there's so like,
I wouldn't find out about those things.
Right.
And that happens to all of us.
Yeah.
We want to like pan and condemn these people for creating a career by doing
shit and then showing us the shit.
And then we go do the shit.
Right.
It's literally all it is.
Well, I think there's two versions of criticism.
There's ones who are just haters.
Yeah.
Because they would rather.
But that's most of them.
Yeah.
And then there are, I think, other people who see other like the, you know, the mirage that influencers sell that contribute to weird, fake,
or unrealistic expectations of life. But I think that that's just...
But that's really up to you.
If you can filter through that shit.
I don't personally have a problem with it.
It's when I see influencers act like
they are God's gift to whatever the fuck,
that's when I'm like,
hold on, remember where the fuck you're at
really quick.
Right.
You have the privilege of being able
to just sort of commodify your existence to make
money and that's your job. Respect.
Get your paper.
Because there was a person who left a one
star Yelp review. We were trying to talk about it a few weeks
ago. Oh, I heard that. Yeah, where an influencer
was pissed because a restaurant didn't hook
them up with enough free shit because they
were an influencer. She's not an influencer. She had
11,000 followers. I have 11,000
followers. I'm not an influencer. I'm not selling anything. She had 11,000 followers. I have 11,000 followers. I'm not an influencer.
I'm not selling anything.
You're a deity.
I am a goddess.
Yeah, exactly.
Don't say yourself short.
No, but I get that.
And that kind of inflated, stupid ego person, I think, though, is casting a bad shadow on what is not the whole industry.
And also, I don't like the argument that, well, people and children are looking at the internet
and they're getting sad
because everyone's life looks better than theirs.
You know what?
Before the internet, that shit was still happening.
Ted does not have a green lawn.
He dyes that shit.
And you've been looking at Ted's lawn all thirsty as hell
because his shit is green as fuck.
We're in a drought right now.
Do you think he's using water at night when we're asleep?
How the fuck does Ted have a green lawn?
How do we keep up with the Joneses?
Where did that phrase come from?
Yeah, meanwhile, Ted is probably eyeballs up in debt from lawn dye, you know?
People are out here faking the funk everywhere you go.
You know what I mean?
People are lying about their status.
They're lying about their money.
They're lying about their happiness.
So it's not like if you take that part of the internet
away that that sadness isn't going to
still exist because it's just a human
thing. We purport, we puff ourselves
up to make ourselves feel better.
Everyone does it. And so I just think
that we have a more instant access
by just looking at your phone. But guess
what? If you go outside, somebody lying to you.
Right. Oh yeah. Right now.
On this show.
And I mean, we have more realistic ideas of celebrities than they did in the past.
So we've had them taken down a peg or two.
I think our everyday lives, the people we look to as living their everyday lives are maybe being a little less realistic.
I think advertisers themselves are the people who are actually
underrating influencers
in the sense that
most of our generation,
we don't vibe with the same kind of advertising
our parents did.
It's like, hey, fuck yeah,
look at this shit.
This could be you.
Are you a woman who loves to clean
and cook for her man? I'm sad and I want the life and body of this Instagram account. shit are you this could be you yeah are you a woman who loves to get the fuck out of my face
i'm sad and i want the life and body of this instagram account what is that selling me right
and subconsciously it works on you because it's selling you this actual you're like is this a real
life i could have like this person's account and they're like i do want to go to there to that
place to eat there to stay there to consume there there, to that place, to eat there, to stay there, to consume there.
And I think that's like the difference now is like we you almost really need the trust of somebody or the consumer has to trust the person.
And that's really where your advertising is going to be more effective.
And that's that's that's where I think advertisers get that.
Like people crave authenticity now.
I just think it's hard to deliver on.
Yeah.
Because there's no way to deliver authenticity through advertising because your whole purpose
is inauthentic.
And influencers have been like, except for the ones that are really successful and can
charge a shitload of money, like most influencers are tainted the second they get like one offer.
They're like, fuck yeah.
Like I have band-aids for life.
Yeah.
We're doing band-aids.
Hey,
I'm,
I'm,
I'm cutting myself all the time in the kitchen because I'm so clumsy with this.
And then I thank God for a wedding dress made of band-aids.
Yeah.
Listen,
that's lit though.
If you go far as to cut your own finger to just advertise band-aids.
Right.
Hey,
devotion.
All right.
Let's take a quick break.
We'll be right back.
A.
Devotion.
All right.
Let's take a quick break.
We'll be right back.
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What is something you think is underrated?
Underrated is impeachment parties.
Yo, where are they?
Yeah.
I guess, okay, do you think it's dangerous to start super celebrating in the streets?
I guess, what are we celebrating?
The fact that maybe Democrats found the wherewithal to finally hold the president accountable?
I'm going to give you three reasons.
Or that we think that they could be removed?
Okay.
I'm going to give you three reasons why.
Okay.
Number one, it's important for your health.
There's an important TED Talk.
Oh, like a bit of release, you're saying?
Yes.
There's an important TED Talk by Kelly McGonigal that you should all go and watch
that is about the importance of celebrations and how it floods your system with oxytocin
and remembering your strengths and how that builds on strength.
You got to celebrate.
You got to get that shit in as often as possible.
Number two, it's important because as soon as we start celebrating, we're going to figure
out what election day is actually going to look like.
Right.
Yeah.
Because the scary Nazis are going to start coming out for the small tailgate parties.
Right.
And we need to start those battles early early so that they don't happen like the month before
we try to vote.
Right, right.
And number three, because we got to get excitement rallying for this shit to happen.
Yeah, right.
For public support.
It's funny.
The first point you bring up like speaks exactly to the thing that I'm doing the wrong version of, if that makes sense.
I'm withholding celebrating in the event that it doesn't work, and then I'm doubly.
However, but if I look at it very narrowly about doing that as a process of being like, well, you know what?
It's good to feel invigorated because, shit, that doesn't stop me from celebrating some sports team I like
who may win in a very narrow context.
And in the back of my mind, I'm like,
we're not getting in the Champions League.
What the fuck's the deal?
But in that moment, I allow myself to celebrate.
And that's what keeps me going.
Yes.
Interesting.
In this landmark TED Talk, Kelly McGonigal revealed that people who believe that stress is bad for them will die 30 years earlier than people who just believe stress is stress 60% of the time.
What do you mean that you believe that stress is bad?
Yeah, the belief is what kills you, not the stress.
And you're like, this is killing me.
This job is killing me.
So stress is like Freddy Krueger.
Basically, yeah.
It's just in yourger. Basically, yes.
See, but if you went, stress is actually a
Teletubby in my life.
That's trying to communicate with me.
It bops. I don't know what it says.
A Teletubby with sharp teeth that's always nipping at my heels.
You're going to die 30 years before me, sir.
I don't do that. I celebrate.
Well, in my mind, I just...
What if you're of the belief where you're like, I don't have time for stress?
I have a question first, though.
Are your calves marbled?
Yeah.
I mean...
That is the question.
You can see through the pants, the marbling.
I feel like I'm looking at A5.
I always think of like, if I was in a situation where I had to eat a human being, I would
probably eat my own calf first.
Right.
Because I've been eyeing it my whole life.
I would eat your calf first as well.
You've got, Miles has very-
That's good eating right there.
There's good meat on them bones.
That's solid.
If you want to talk about the marbling,
if you want to take a butcher's look at that one.
I was listening to a reporter talk about impeachment
and they were saying that it brought them back
to when they were a child during a water gate.
Yes.
And their moms would all get babysitters
and go over to each other's house
and just get drunk and watch the Watergate impeachment.
Oh, that's rad.
Why aren't we doing that?
I don't know.
Let's go get drunk.
Because people can't afford childcare.
Right.
Oh, wait a minute.
That's right.
We have dissolved all social programs.
That's where we're at now.
It was very heteronormative
where she was like,
and then the dads would come home
and they'd be like,
where's my dinner?
Why are you drunk?
And why are you mad?
Now let me suck on my little brown dick,
a cigar.
Right.
And then they would take some dextrogen
and move on.
Yeah.
Oh man.
Sober up a little bit with
some greenies.
Yeah.
Some actual speed.
Yeah.
This is something that has kind of been in the ether for a little while,
that Instagram might get rid of the like count on posts.
Fuck Jay-Z.
Yeah.
Ether.
Yeah, they might ether.
Sorry, I had to.
They might ether the like count.
What's the idea behind this?
First of all, they took away activity.
So you couldn't see how thirsty people you followed were.
My goodness.
I'm actually mad at that.
It's also because now you can't calculate
the proper time for you to post a picture.
So on certain days and every day,
there's a prominent time
where your users are the most active.
So if you want to have the most reach on a photo it used to be before they changed the algorithm and started
like showing photos randomly right it was all about the time that you posted right and then
when they changed the algorithm and made the timeline no longer linear you could still cheat
that by going to the audience and seeing if people were liking pictures so if you would go to the
audience and it would be like a couple seconds in between every single like
or one second in between every single like
from your followers,
you knew that people were active and online
and it was a good time to post.
Right, right, right.
And they took that away
so that you can't know when you should be posting
and that way they can control what is being seen.
All they're trying to do is they realize
that Instagram was so easily accessible
for people to monetize
and they're having difficulty
monetizing it themselves.
So they're taking away
everything that we can
possibly do on the app
to monetize our pages
so that people will be forced
to buy ads
from fucking Facebook.
Interesting.
And they're cheating it.
They're lying
and appealing to,
you know,
people who are probably
hurt by this app
by being like
hey we're taking away these likes for you so that when you get one like on that picture of that
struggle meal that you posted um nobody knows how much of an l you took on that right nobody will
know that chopped up hot dogs and and beans got one like yeah we get it you went on the new kids
on the block cruise ship.
Yeah.
Okay.
Then Danny looks
real bored with you.
You took a picture
with Joy Fatone.
Right, right.
Who was on the
New Kids cruise
which is a shame for him.
Really weird.
Well, he's struggling.
Yeah, yeah.
Because they used to
call him names.
But I think it's
a double edged sword
because obviously
there absolutely
is a thing of like,
well, y'all can't be making more money than we are. So we have to dip in first. But I think it's a double-edged sword because obviously there absolutely is a thing of like, well, y'all can't be making more money than we are.
So we have to dip in first.
But I think there is a bit of a benefit, though, too, I think, for people who might not be actually in the business of posting on Instagram.
But sort of caught up in the optics of how many followers you have.
The pressure that people can...
Younger people, I think more especially, thinking of like, well, this doesn't have likes.
I can actually quantify my self-worth through likes, but it does provide cover, like you're
saying, of being like, well, you know, that could have a benefit.
I've never seen a business do anything to help people.
That's not what they're for.
Purely to help people.
Facts.
Not even pharmaceutical businesses.
Yeah, yeah, no, absolutely.
Especially not them.
But yeah, I think that's what they say is
right now we're testing,
this is from one of the higher ups at Facebook
or Instagram.
Right now we're testing making like counts private.
You'll be able to see how many likes
a given photo or video of yours has received,
but no one else will.
We're announcing that we're going to start testing in the u.s next week he clarified that the hidden number of likes
would not be rolled out to users in the entire country at once but to a small group and i think
that i like when we talk about like the billionaire class i'm not comparing influencers to billionaires
necessarily but like if you're talking about people i guess who get lots of attention and if
that's what everybody wants there's not a lot like most people's instagrams are very normal and like just pictures of their
kids right like you know it's not them on a jet you know right so i could see how that would be
beneficial to those people yeah well and also people just a public service announcement
pictures of a newborn child too soon oh not a good look. Air that baby out first. Let the baby's head form a little bit.
I go back and forth with Amy Miller,
past guests,
where we send each other photos
from what we see on our timeline
of people posting fresh out the womb babies.
Because they're not...
I get it.
You're celebrating your life,
but also the cuteness probability
is very low for a fresh out the womb baby.
If the baby would have a hair dryer first or something.
Yeah, well, not even like necessarily in the delivery room,
but I just see ones where they're like two days old and they're like,
look at this child.
I'm like, the skin is see-through.
Yeah.
But hey, but blessed.
And the little creepy baby.
It's a circle of life.
Yeah, and whenever there's an ugly baby, I just say, oh, congratulations.
That's a blessing.
I will not call an ugly baby cute ever. Oh, oh, congratulations. That's a blessing. I will not call an ugly baby cute.
Oh, wow.
Wait, that's what you post on all mine?
Yeah.
Oh, congrats.
Congrats.
No, Jack, I'm under you and your wife's photos like, let me know when these kids want to work.
Let's get these kids in show business.
They got a manager yet?
Cute kids.
What a blessed and extraordinary family uh let's talk about youtube because they same shit same same they are so now
they're changing their terms of service or they're about to change them in december that says quote
youtube may terminate your access or your google's access to all or part of the service, YouTube,
if YouTube believes in its sole discretion that provision of the service, YouTube, to you is no longer commercially viable.
So they're out here basically saying, look, if I'm making a coin, we're going to fucking ax your shit.
We'll fire you.
YouTube can fire you. YouTube can't use YouTube anymore.
And I think that's one, again, has a dual purpose, right?
On one side, people can be like, oh, this could be great for them regulating hate speech or like, you know, the red pill.
But hate speech makes money.
But exactly.
But then who knows if that's what that means, right?
Versus accounts that might be railing against the YouTube algorithm or their AdSense or these other things.
And they're like, actually, this isn't commercially viable because we're trying to appeal to our own advert. I'm sorry. You got to go. railing against the YouTube algorithm or their AdSense or these other things.
And they're like, actually, this isn't commercially viable because we're trying to appeal to our own advert.
I'm sorry.
You got to go.
I love that YouTube just sent out an email that was like, hey, listen, we're going to
do whatever the fuck we want.
Yeah.
Right.
And you can't question us.
Yeah.
This is no longer a platform to share shit.
Thanks so much for using YouTube.
Yeah.
I don't know if that's in response.
I know this is like
huge in the youtuber world i think a lot of people have been saying this is why youtubers like
especially creators who have like sizable followings should unionize to be able to protect
themselves from shit like this um but i wonder if it's because they've been taking hits to their ad
revenue that they've slowly been like okay fuck if this is going to be a profit machine we literally
have to treat it like just a network.
Right.
It's like your show or your channel
isn't commercially viable
because you're giving like hair tips
or whatever the fuck it is.
And that's so crazy to treat people
who just post to your platform
like they're your employees.
Yeah.
Right.
Like this started as like,
I get it,
like it's monetized
because of ads and clicks
and people who watch your videos and subscribers. But to so what are they saying like y'all better get to
work yeah right yeah tune up i mean stop talking that politics right if you go back to just the
these are monopolies and this is what corporations will do to you if you know they if they know that you can't go anywhere else then
they're just gonna right but i think that's the key and we have to continue to have that kind of
developing spirit because facebook has lived in you know basically monopoly for so much longer
than i think any social it has to be the longest of any social website. Because before it used to be like,
oh, we're on Exanga.
Now we're on MySpace.
We own Black People Meet.
Bitch, we going back to Black Planet.
Right, right.
You know how girls on Black Planet be
when they get bubbly?
We just need to, I don't know,
let's go back to MySpace.
It's just as bad as Facebook
and all your family's still on it.
But it's not like the spirit of innovation.
It's the fact that they-
They're crushing.
Yeah, they're crushing everything.
They hire the most lobbyists in Washington, D.C.
Google, Facebook, Apple, and Amazon,
they run shit.
And they're not going to-
There should be seven different competing video players
that people are uploading videos to the same way that there's you know they're like when cars
became a thing ford didn't just get to make cars like from then on right everybody there were a
bunch of different car companies that came in and started but they were like well all right the car
game will you know grow and proliferate, but fuck public transit.
Right.
Yeah, exactly.
That was their version.
Like, no, no, get that up.
Get that the fuck out of here.
I guess with that kind of like how we talk about the elasticity clause in the Constitution, it's like now we have to regulate the internet.
Yeah.
Because now these tech giants are crushing us the same way that other industries have monopolized things and hurt the economy before.
that you know other industries have monopolized things and hurt the economy yeah yeah and now they have such a share of people's attention and like really unethical business practices whether
that's having like outright manipulative political ads that are deceptive and lies
straight up said the kkk is checking our site for lies right
and they said no lies are detected yeah love He said, we do it real good.
Yeah.
And I think that's when you see, too, like, that's where their power has become completely ridiculous.
And they're like, but we're just making money.
It's like, yeah, but no, see, this is the problem now.
Like, you have everyone's ears and eyes.
Yeah.
And now this is different.
It's become something else.
Sorry, you got to give up the keys now.
Yeah.
But that's also the problem with corporations in general.
It's like, once you get to a certain size, you got to be evil as fuck.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's why I think there's so much energy
behind people on the left right now,
whether it be locally or nationally,
because there's a lot of things that are lining up
that are really fucking us over
about the way things used to operate
that need to be changed.
And it's also why people probably are lining up on the right and ready to have a violent revolution if Trump gets impeached.
Which is so crazy to me because people on the right are suffering just as much, if not more, than people on the left.
The right, their base is all poor people.
Like, I mean, it's the poorest of poor, and then the richest of the rich.
Right.
And like a little bit in between.
Yeah.
So it's like, you guys are hurting.
But their main goal is just to maintain white supremacy.
Really.
That's why it's, they don't care what the president does.
Yeah, but white supremacy ain't even working that good no more.
Yeah, but that's the currency they're dealing with, right?
It's not as lit as it used to be.
I know.
But again, try and tell them that because they harken back to a time where like, I remember
when a black person served me.
Right, but we're not going to go back there. I'm going to keep slurping on the
same water fountain as you, sis.
They want to
go to TBT time machine,
but it's too late. Yeah, we're not going
back to slavery. Y'all know that.
I'm sorry. So they want to cut out
these different versions. So they're like, fine.
Fine. police brutality.
Let's arrest a guy for eating a chicken sandwich on a fucking platform.
Yeah, that's what I that's that shit.
Because that's the only way I can get my jollies now.
I think like, well, that wouldn't happen to me.
Right.
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One of my favorite things is just anecdotes about Michael Jordan.
I feel like every time we learn an anecdote from his career, we get a little bit wiser about our species or
further confirms how much of an asshole he is right like that one clip i was going i was showing jack
yesterday of him and charles barkley on oprah years ago it's like let me tell you a story about
him man and michael jordan's like come on man shut the fuck up like and he's like i tried to
give a homeless dude some money and then mike just smacks my hand away, says, don't give him money.
If he has enough energy to say, can you give me a dollar?
He has enough energy to say, can I take your order?
And you're like, oh my God, Michael Jordan, please.
You couldn't even let Charles Barkley give his own money away?
Yeah, yeah.
Well, he's a degenerate gambler.
I mean, he has...
Yeah, he's...
Here we're about to hear this.
From another planet.
Yes.
Yeah, he's from another planet.
Yes.
So this was on a Chicago area sports talk show,
and it's a story told by Jeremy Roenick,
who was a NHL player when Michael Jordan was lighting shit up in the NBA.
And so at one point – Jeremy Roenick?
Yeah.
So weird. up in the NBA. And so at one point, Jeremy Roenick said Michael Jordan told him to meet me at Sunset
Ridge early. We're going to play 18 holes. We played around. I beat him for a couple thousand
and got ready to leave. Now the Bulls are playing that night. They played Cleveland that night. I'm
thinking he's leaving. It's 10 o'clock. He goes, no, let's go again.
So we go and fill up a bag full of ice and Coors Light and walk again.
We were all around another 18, and I take him for another couple thousand dollars.
Now we've been drinking all afternoon, and he's going from Sunset Ridge to the stadium
to play a game.
I'm messing around.
I'm like, I'm going to call my bookie.
All the money you just lost to me, I'm putting it on Cleveland. He goes, I'll tell you what, I'll bet you that we'll win by 20 points
and I have more than 40 points. And I'm like, done. Son of a gun goes out and scores 52 and
they went by 26 points. I mean, that's, but that's the kind of guy, that's how he was his whole,
like, that's why he was the best. You know what I mean? It's just because he was so competitive to a major fault.
Yeah.
That's.
That he would mistreat other human beings in the name of self-glory.
But the fact that he was drinking all day before a game is just bonkers.
I mean, how many beers did he really have?
You know what I mean?
If he has six cores, I'm like, you can still fucking, you can shell the stadium down.
I don't know, that seems like a lot of cores.
Based on Jeremy Roenick's look,
I feel like they drank a shitload of beers.
Right, right.
I can't quite put my finger on what Jordan's
alcohol consumption levels are, but a hockey player,
I'm like, mm.
Yeah, exactly.
He's drinking with a hockey player.
Hockey players will drink you under the bar.
I've heard so many stories about,
and just the way he got in people's heads
during the game, the amount of shit.
I forget the player. I was like,
maybe it was Penny Hardaway. Somebody there one time
was talking shit
to Jordan during the game
and then he was wearing
Jordans while playing.
You know what I mean? And then Jordan was like,
you're not even good enough to wear my sneakers.
You know what I mean?
That's a pretty devastating thing to do.
Yeah, it's like, what do you say to that?
And he's just, you know, he gets in your head.
But I've heard so many stories of that
where it's like whenever he loses,
he's like, all right, double or nothing,
double or nothing, double or nothing.
We'll just go until you give up.
Yeah, exactly.
Oh yeah, it was Penny.
It was Penny?
Yeah, yeah.
He said he called me kid.
Yeah.
Kid, you're not even good enough to wear my sneakers.
Wow. Unreal. Well, we're all even good enough to wear my sneakers. Wow.
Unreal.
Well, we're all three wearing Jordans today.
Yeah, exactly.
I'm wearing the Knicks version of these.
Makes them very humble.
Yeah, which is the one that he just dominated.
It even has the, you know, the 4888 from that specific game.
When he dropped those points?
Yeah, where he just dominated.
It's like, I feel like I'm being cucked wearing these sneakers.
Yeah, you would wear those.
Yeah, exactly.
I mean, honestly, if science could somehow find out
what the power of his ego is,
there has to be some kind of universal language in there.
Power of his ego, like whatever.
His competitive fire.
The metabolism, whatever the fuck made him able
to put away six beers and then go out and be better than anyone has ever been at basketball.
Like six beers at least.
But also, I mean, do you think that was a pretty easy prediction?
I wonder what Cleveland at that time.
Dude, he's still playing the NBA.
It's the best athletes in the world.
And it just goes, like yesterday when we read this,
you said superpower.
And like that really feels like what it is.
I mean, because he's playing against the best athletes
in the world and he's that much better than all of them.
Or is it greed?
Like it was purely the money?
Right.
I don't even feel like, I feel like he's a degenerate gambler
because of his competitiveness.
It has nothing, I don't think it's like,
it's just like the disease
and that.
It's more of just like,
I have to win
and if money's riding on it,
it's like,
money I feel like
is the secondary thing to him
besides just winning
and being like,
and it's not even,
he's also not a good winner.
You know what I mean?
Like when he wins,
he's like a piece of shit about it.
Right, yeah.
You know what I mean?
As his Hall of Fame speech
will testify.
As Craig Elo will know.
Yeah.
Just getting fist pumped right in your skull.
Yeah.
I do want to talk, Jamie, a little bit about a story that is very relevant to you.
The animatronic, the band of Chuck E. Cheese.
I'm sorry for getting their name wrong.
So, yeah, it's Mr. Munchy's Make Believe Band.
Mr. Munchy's Make Believe Band. Not Munchy's, Munches. Thank you. I'm sorry, Mr. Munchies Make-Believe Band. Mr. Munchies Make-Believe Band.
Not Munchies, Munches.
Thank you.
I'm sorry, Mr. Munches.
They've been together for 40 years.
You've had plenty of time to learn their names.
And this is the animatronic band that is inside many Chuck E. Cheese,
but has been being phased out.
For a couple of years.
Okay, so this is terrible news.
This is the worst news of the day and the impeachment yeah so what is happening okay uh so in 2017
chucky cheese announced that they're going to slowly start phasing out the animatronics
which launched me into a long investigation of the history of them which if you haven't
educated yourself on what the history of the
animatronic band is, it's pretty wild.
There were these wild 80s wars between the two pizza places, Showbiz Pizza and Chuck E.
Cheese.
There are so many.
I'm like, I can't wait for the movie of this.
Yeah, that you're writing.
I'd hope you would write that film.
Desperately.
Right after Santa University comes out,
this is going to really take first position for me.
But Chuck E. Cheese was founded by the founder of Atari,
and then he creates this restaurant.
Oh, I had no idea.
Oh, it's a whole thing.
Yeah.
Okay.
So Chuck E. Cheese was invented to have a restaurant to promote Atari games, basically.
Oh, like the arcade games would be within it.
Yeah.
Oh, shit.
Oh, shit.
Yeah.
And then their main competition, Showbiz Pizza, had these amazing animatronics that were made
by this young inventor genius named Aaron Fector, who was one of those classic good inventor, terrible businessman,
where he invented whack-a-mole and then got swindled by a carny
and ended up losing the rights to whack-a-mole,
so he didn't have any money.
Then he invented these restaurant animatronics and then ended...
That would haunt children forever.
Yeah, and he still lives and works in Orlando and is still making stuff.
But it's like there's this crazy legacy, and they're finally taking him out.
If anyone in Zeitgang knows how I can get one, I will travel.
I will spend every cent to my name.
I'll start a Kickstarter.
I don't give a fuck.
I want to get one of these things. Do you want the whole band
or just any one of the band members?
I don't have the infrastructure for
a whole band. I could house one.
If you can get the whole
thing, we could put them in the office.
You have to be really careful.
That would be wild. What if you walked in and that
was the first thing you see?
We have a gigantic 20-foot version of The Note from Jersey Shore.
That's true.
I think we can respect popular culture and bring in the whole, wasn't Mr. Munch's?
Mr. Munch's make-believe band.
Make-believe band.
And who are the members?
So you have Mr. Cheese.
And he goes by Mr. Cheese?
No.
Well, Chuck E. Cheese, that's a whole thing.
Because much like Mr. Mucus, Chuck E. Cheese, he used to be a cigar-smoking rat, and now he's a mouse who skateboards.
Oh, great.
It's a whole thing.
He found Christ.
He found God.
He's a skateboarding.
And he changed species.
He's a skateboarding youth pastor.
He vapes now.
He vapes now, and he's voiced by the lead singer of Bowling for Soup.
I didn't know that.
Yeah.
Okay, so there's Mr. Cheese.
There's Mr. Cheese.
There's my personal favorite, and I would prioritize this over all the others, Pasquale.
Pasquale is the Italian pizza chef.
He plays the drums, and he does stand-up comedy at the Laffaroni.
They show videos of it at Chuck E. Cheese.
Wait, is he like a racist caricature of an Italian chef?
Yes.
Like a big mustache with curly hair coming out the sides or something? Wait, hold on. I got something. Cheese. Wait, is he like a racist caricature of an Italian chef? Yes. Like a big mustache with curly hair coming out the sides or something?
Wait, hold on.
I got something.
Wait.
What is this?
Oh, this is the stand-up set.
This is why I do what I do.
Alan, is this why you do what you do?
I like his intro.
What do you get when you put a radio in the refrigerator?
What do you get?
What do you get?
I give up.
Yes.
Cool music.
So this is amazing.
Okay.
Get this shit off.
This is trash.
That was pretty good.
This is why I fucking do what I do, Miles.
That was pretty good. Okay, I'll give him what I do, Miles. That was pretty good.
Okay, I'll give him that.
Okay, so there's Pasquale.
Who else?
Cool music.
Then there's Helen.
She's the girl, right?
The token representation.
Helen Henney.
She's a bird, right?
Helen Henney, she's a bird.
Yeah, I remember her.
It kind of invokes the birdie from McDonald's land, but predates birdie.
Birdie's a ripoff of Helen, make no mistake.
And then there's Jasper Jowls, who is the dog, the cowboy dog.
And that's your band.
Okay.
That's your band, baby.
So now, but it has been announced, right?
Because 2017, I remember you first went on a journey because they announced that
they're like we're gonna start phasing this whole shit out and then they kind of didn't do that or
like at least in this area everything sort of remained the same where if in your area if your
chucky cheese opened before 2005 you probably still have most of the band and now where are
we at now it's it's been announced this week i guess that they're like okay we're actually taking them
out but where are they going like what i don't know right but the characters aren't going away
they have like they have this whole thing and uh i think they're like based out of austin where
they make all these videos but they're with puppets now they're not with animatronics
they release a lot of curse content on youtube i highly recommend there's a there's a there's a lot of cursed content on YouTube I highly recommend. There's a parody of Ice Cube's Good Day from Chuck E. Cheese called Another Chuck E. Day.
So there's a lot.
May I?
With the Isley Brothers sample too?
Well, may I?
Yeah.
They don't got that kind of money, but it's clear what they're doing.
And it's parodying the music video too.
Well, it's a brand new day and the sun is out shining.
Birds are chirping, everything is fine.
And as I open up my eyes, I just gotta say,
got the feeling that it's gonna be another Chucky day.
Yeah, okay, I like this.
This is great.
So, you know, the legacy lives on through Chris' videos.
They gotta play Coachella.
Oh my, yeah, I can see them in the Gobi tent. You know, the legacy lives on through curse videos. They got to play Coachella. Oh, my.
Yeah, I can see them in the Gobi tent.
Wait, why doesn't Chuck E. Cheese just move into the hologram thing that's happening now?
Isn't everything now turning into, like, hologram performances?
I wish.
Like, I feel like that would work.
Because the thing with the animatronics, I guess that they were scaring kids.
Yeah, for decades.
For decades.
But I don't know. I'm going to miss the animatronics. I guess that they were scaring kids. Yeah, for decades. For decades.
But I don't know.
I'm going to miss the animatronics.
I'm very sad.
So if you live near a full band, go pour one out.
You can have up to two blue moons before they cut you off there.
Oh, wow, really?
Yeah.
I mean, you see a lot of videos of parents fighting in Chuck E. Cheese.
Oh, it's one of the most, like, best places to get into a fight with someone.
All right.
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