The Daily Zeitgeist - Weekly Zeitgeist 132 (Best of 6/29/20-7/2/20)

Episode Date: July 5, 2020

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Starting point is 00:02:45 that's revealing about who you are? Oh, here's a... I had to look up some Pokemon stuff. Some Pokemon stuff, yeah. That's... I mean, that's as much as I can... Because my son's really into it. Okay.
Starting point is 00:03:02 And... Into Pokemon? Yeah, like in all... Is that like... did you make him into it is that still on tv i thought ash ketchum and them are they on syndicate i mean there's he was watching one the other night that was from like 1999 so there's always new ones it's the racket's pretty impressive what they do and it's cool it's just like little animals they make up. And it's just right for kids' imagination and adults'. I mean, it's a really smart racket.
Starting point is 00:03:32 But it's all nonsense, too. So I can't follow a lot of it. And it's all based loosely around, like, let's make a children's show around uh the idea of like dog and cock fighting essentially is like the overall theme of i didn't want to yeah you're exactly right is it's making these little things that you have in your pocket fight your little pets right yeah um which which you're not supposed to do like i've done it a couple times with my rest in peace Finney, but he was a prize fighting King Charles Cavalier.
Starting point is 00:04:13 His special move was when he would get into a fight, he would immediately roll over, even if the other animal was a squirrel, he would roll over. So that was my fighting dogs uh so he was just a loser yeah he was just like a basketball player who like tries to get the charge that's right he took the charge my leg was near you he wasn't even taking the like his feet were moving he wasn't even taking the charge like a tough guy he was like moving back where
Starting point is 00:04:45 it was like that's a block dude you're just kind of getting in people's way yeah yeah exactly he was like just make it quick uh was his overall strategy on any confrontation just kill me quickly which is that's a pretty here's this not a dumb the softest part yeah that's not a dumb fighting strategy it'd be like if someone comes at you, you just vomit immediately. That's right. That's why we, as a species, shit ourselves and throw up on ourselves
Starting point is 00:05:12 is to make ourselves taste bad for when we're being eaten. That's wise. Also, there's something very fun about getting to a fight and just immediately getting on the ground yourself and giving the other person no satisfaction. I want to see that happen slowly.
Starting point is 00:05:30 Like the fight starts. You like. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, no. We don't fight. We don't fight. Look, I'm just getting started for you. I'm gonna kick it off.
Starting point is 00:05:37 I'm gonna get the water boiling. I'll be down here on the ground. I'm not gonna lie to you guys. That was kind of my strategy when I was growing up I was uh like I really loved the Rocky movies but I more identified with the early rounds when he was getting the shit kicked out of him and so I would like I I got beat up a lot when I was a kid and I was really good at it like I would make it look dramatic when the bully kicked me in the chest like I would fly backwards uh that may be why they kept picking on you
Starting point is 00:06:06 because they're like, this looks awesome when we go after Jack. He really sells it. That makes us look strong. I remember one time in college, a defensive lineman wanted to fight me at a bar and I just whispered in his ear, you can tell everyone you destroyed me tomorrow,
Starting point is 00:06:25 but I'm going to leave. And it confused him so much that I wasn't trying to like bow up to him because I was like, well, immediately you're going to win. Just, I can't beat you. Right. Right, yeah. He looked so confused. He's like, just get the fuck out of here.
Starting point is 00:06:41 I was like, all right. And the girl I was with, she was like, what'd you say to him? I was like, I deeply confused him is what i did let's go see i told him what was gonna happen and he immediately decided he didn't want any of that that is exactly not a lot i um i'm kind of the opposite like i'm short so i don't know if that just always made me like have like a little napoleonic complex or something. But I wanted people to believe that I could fight. And I've never been in a physical altercation in my life unless it was playing with my cousins.
Starting point is 00:07:14 So I remember this one girl was harassing me in college. And it was really, really bad. She was mad. I stole her boyfriend, long story short. Anyway, we're children. I was 20. No, yeah story short. Anyway, this is like, we're children. I was like 20. No, yeah, I was 19, I think. And she just kept
Starting point is 00:07:30 harassing me. And so I like, this sounds insane. Oh my God, I can't believe I'm saying this on podcast. I was like, no, fuck it. I'm gonna show up to her house. Because this is college. We all live like on the block. I'm gonna show up to this bitch's house so she can know that if she keeps fucking with me i'm gonna put these hands on her and like i could convince people that i'm an act
Starting point is 00:07:49 right i can convince people i could fight but like i never had to fight nobody right and one of my friends was like you know what you should do you should put vaseline on your face and i was like yeah yeah so you showed up with vaseline on your face yeah like you had a cut man in your corner that's amazing um yeah i just mine was not really a strategy mine was just uh i had no control over my emotions i was very sensitive little boy what is something you think is overrated overrated is binging binging television i don't think that that's how tv is meant to be watched like i think we don't jack wow strong take fire takes no but i mean okay these these might not be the most controversial things but they're things that people don't think of as a television
Starting point is 00:08:42 writer it really irritates like because there's a huge movement and now like critical YouTube videos and like just everybody being super hypercritical of media. And I just think a lot of television isn't meant to be binged. I think we end up being antsy and we're like the show moved really slowly. And it's like did the show move slow or were you just like so antsy to get to the next episode so you could be done with the series right so like i guess as a creator and as someone that is you know writing some of the it just i just don't know if all television is meant to be i don't think our brains are meant to take it in that way i'm finding that to be very true with i may destroy you where
Starting point is 00:09:22 i went into it's like saving up a couple of episodes I'm like okay I'm gonna watch three at once but it is simply not that kind of shit like I after watching an episode I'm like I need some time I need to process like it's such a good rich show that I wouldn't want to sit like it have it in one sitting, if that makes sense. Yeah. Totally. Yeah, a lot of people don't realize that when Big Bang Theory and Young Sheldon first came on the air,
Starting point is 00:09:54 like, they were not, like, they were meant to be enjoyed over weeks and not, like, all at once. And so in that way, they're actually good. Yeah, no, absolutely. Like, you can't take that sort of thing in all at once. Yeah, no, absolutely. You can't take that sort of thing in all at once. I hate Jack for making fun of my takes. Like my take was like, what's underrated? Like drinking water.
Starting point is 00:10:13 Everyone should drink water. No, I think it's a really good point. I've definitely found myself overwhelmed by a show that is like too dense. And Big Bang Theory is not it yeah it's just being a dick i also just think people like are if you were to recommend it somebody like nah it was it was too slow or nah it didn't like and i think it would have been that piece of art that literally those creators spent like months to a year of their life making might have been more enjoyable for you if you didn't binge it. So that's
Starting point is 00:10:45 just what I'm saying as a creator. Totally. As somebody who's like in writers rooms, does that conversation ever come up where it's just like, well, people are going to be watching this not over weeks, but over the course of- A thousand percent. In fact, the last show I worked on was at Netflix. And so we literally at the end of our episode had to have a cliffhanger so that the little five seconds it gives you before it goes to the next episode, you would, you would want to watch it. You cannot have, so like with network TV, it all ties up, not all the time, but a lot of times the end of the episode ties up in somewhat of a, uh, conclusion, like somewhat of a little bow that you can take with you until the next week.
Starting point is 00:11:23 But, um, not all the times, but Netflix, a hundred percent you at the end of our final act, it's like when we don't even have acts because we don't have commercials, but structurally at the end of the episode, it has to be a cliffhanger for you to go into the next episode. Something I've found that is always disorienting for me is like, there is between episodes you are encouraged to not repeat
Starting point is 00:11:47 information and because that is like going to throw a listener off or a viewer off they're like oh no no no they just watched the last episode you don't need to like you know in the way TV used to be where you sort of had to recap what happened last week at the beginning but now it's like yeah don't do that
Starting point is 00:12:03 it will encourage people to turn it off because they'll feel you know condescended to yeah but i feel like terry gross interviews that this is i feel like she's a really good example of somebody who is coming from a previous media where you had to reset constantly she's always like if you're just joining me this is happening and this is who i'm talking to and in podcast form it doesn't bother me because it just allows you to take things in at a pace that is very easy and you know you're not just i don't know like i think sometimes you're right that like it's not always bad to repeat things, you don't want to do it in a way that is banging people over the head. Yeah. I don't know what I prefer.
Starting point is 00:12:53 I don't know which I prefer, but it's interesting. What is something you think is underrated? What is something that I think is underrated? Serving jury duty. I think people need to be serving jury duty, especially black and brown people. Young people need to stop treating jury duty like it's a punishment.
Starting point is 00:13:15 And I say that because there are a lot of old white people that love to serve jury duty. And they use whatever they want in their brain to make decisions. And sometimes it is racism and homophobia and all of this shit that is, uh, white, white supremacy.
Starting point is 00:13:37 And, uh, I think that a lot of people just kind of look down on jury duty and, and normally I would have like a joke answer, but this is like, I really want to get like, start changing people's mind about jury duty um and even the one time i did in my i think it was 10 years ago it was like you know because a lot of times in these cases in order to like you know prevent people from you know using uh their
Starting point is 00:14:01 prejudice to make judgment calls um They like leave information out. And I served as a juror on the case where it was obvious that it was two fighting boyfriends or lovers or some shit. And because they didn't say that, people in the jury were confused. They were like, well, I don't understand why. And I finally was like, they're gay.
Starting point is 00:14:26 You guys are fucking gay. Like context clues, you know, you could see it in his eyebrows. He's like Latino raver, had those thin eyebrows. You're like, he is homosexual.
Starting point is 00:14:36 Okay guys, if you can't see it, I don't know what to tell you. And, and it was also funny because even when they were like giving their testimonies, they were like trying to hide their quote unquote gay voice. You guys know what I'm talking about.
Starting point is 00:14:47 Don't even. And it was really funny because I was like, they're really trying to talk with their white work voice. And you're not fooling me with that shit. You're not fooling me with that shit. So it's weird to have a case that they were just treating it like it was like these random men attacked each other. So what do y'all think? They were together in the car or something like i can't really remember they were together somehow driving his car i was driving his car and you know that kind of weird and then it turned into like wait so why are they going against each other but it was very much like
Starting point is 00:15:19 they were just mad at each other a year ago and now they're uncomfortable it's uncomfortable anyways so i think people should serve on on anyways oh what i was trying to say was there was an old white guy who was like i don't understand what this is about and he was just like this doesn't make sense they're guilty and i was like how does it not make sense and they're guilty that shit don't make no sense assuming yeah sorry my reflex when I get in here and they're brown or black. Yeah, people are like, my gut feeling. I'm like, your gut is racist, sir.
Starting point is 00:15:49 That's not a gut feeling. That's racism. Oh, really? Because my gut has been on a steady diet of Sizzler buffets and Cracker Barrel for the last 60 years. I'll have no. I'm stewing in there.
Starting point is 00:16:01 That racism is just stewing in your little tummy. Is Sizzler racist? Do we think of Sizzler as a racist restaurant restaurant i just want to posit that to the group i mean what are our feelings on sizzler i mean i used to fuck with sizzler but then i think of the people i would always see at sizzler uh at the north hollywood one or the burbank one and i was like not really my vibe not really my crowd in here right i mean but that's the thing it depends on the area you're in right because like where or where i'm from, there's a lot of white people there. But like a lot of minorities, they look at it like, oh, that's somewhere nice to go.
Starting point is 00:16:31 Because in that area, that is somewhere nice to go. Well, that was Red Lobster on Ventura and Coldwater. There you go. But that's what I'm saying. Everybody has their ideas. But yeah, so it's certainly arguable. I digress. Okay, we'll go back to the lecture at hand, which is, yes, absolutely participate in jury duty
Starting point is 00:16:46 because, like you said, a lot of people will be like, ah, man, fuck, I got to do it. But a lot of the time, too, yeah, when really it's like, fuck, man, I could maybe actually protect somebody. Yes, exactly. And be a voice of reason against maybe a group of really ignorant people who are going to just try and enforce their terrible worldview on somebody through the judicial system. You think about the people who are able to participate and eager to participate.
Starting point is 00:17:13 It's the same people who tend to have, you know, it's like boomers who have money put away, like old white people. And meanwhile, California employers do not have to pay employees for any lost wages due to jury duty summons so it's like specifically designed that way it's like one of those uh invisible ways that they kind of stack the deck yeah which is why it's important if yeah exactly which is why it's important if you have the time if you have the means and you are not a white person you should i mean white people too i mean especially the younger generation they're like you know opening their up their eyes they'll listen to you they might listen to you yeah and so um uh yeah so if you if you have
Starting point is 00:17:53 the means i i strongly recommend it because you can make a difference in a way that is is actually systemic you can make a systemic difference which is what we're talking about i think on a daily basis but then it's tough too because you go in there and like during selection and you show that, you know, a lot. And then like one, inevitably one lawyer is like, I want them out. Right. No, the whole thing up for my defense or my prosecution. Absolutely. Which is also why you answer those questions with that in mind. Yeah, exactly. We're like, uh, they're like, what do you think about?
Starting point is 00:18:23 Like, what do you know about what's, what's your experiences with the, uh, with law enforcement? And I're like, uh, they're like, what do you think about, like, what do you know about, what's your experiences with law enforcement? And I'm like, uh, and they're like, okay, he's already having to lie about this. So we want him out because he's not going to be amenable. Right. Yeah. All right, guys, let's take a quick break and we'll be right back. I've been thinking about you.
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Starting point is 00:22:27 Listen to Hungry for History as part of the My Cultura podcast network, available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. What is a myth myth what's something people think is true uh you know to be false or vice versa that hard work alone will rise you above your position that is very much a myth uh it takes more than hard work it takes intelligence it takes opportunity and it takes
Starting point is 00:23:09 chance yeah and that's that i mean that those are the facts those are always the facts it's like yeah you have to work hard but then you also have to work smart and then you have to you have to take advantage of opportunities and recognize those opportunities like it's not just that myth of like if you are sweating at the end of the day then right because because that's what all those guys that are born with money think too because at the end of the day they're tired too so they work just as hard as everybody else yeah hard work is like the one thing that you alone can control whereas like intelligence good breaks luck like those are things that so i understand the, but then we have gone and edited all the other stuff out. Yes.
Starting point is 00:24:07 The system that makes it 20 times more likely for somebody in one neighborhood to succeed than somebody in another. And that's the first thing that happens. When somebody's success story gets written they immediately edit out all the people who helped them along the way and it becomes the great person narrative like their personal triumph over adversity nobody believed in them when it was just haters it was just haters the whole way haters motivated them uh and it's yeah that's very powerful uh america loves that shit and it's also just completely completely untrue it's bullshit yeah and if you want if you don't
Starting point is 00:24:53 think it's bullshit look at sports that was the first place it was clear to me when i played i went from high school sports to college sports being like i'm working way harder than some of these guys and it never will matter holy shit yeah just talent yeah talent love but also i wonder if people can't let go of this narrative because then their lives seem a bit more bleak like if you you really feel you alone can't change your station in life without a credible amount of help, a good amount of luck, and you know, a lot of fortune, then it kind of becomes like, wow, the place that I was born in life financially, I can't seem to increase my station. And that's supposed to be the American dream, which is why I think people love billionaires so much is the poor people who they're killing, because they're like, yeah, but if I had all that money, it's like, but you don't
Starting point is 00:25:44 and you won't. That's what we're trying to get you to realize it's like you'd have a better chance at it if we got them to pay their fair share but right now you have no chance and you're just like i don't know jacking it to the fact that maybe one day you're gonna wake up sitting on a bunch of gold coins well yeah and i i mean to add to that point, I think a lot of it is psychologically. We don't like a lot of people don't even want to be billionaires. What they want is not to worry about if they get sick, they're going to be poor and destitute for generations because they got sick. Now their family's in debt for 200,000. in debt for 200 000 i think that they just want to be able to be like oh i've got a good job at this factory or whatever it is blue collar and i make a decent wage i get to go to the lake on the weekends and i'm i mean that was what detroit was until they fleeced it right we had all that we had
Starting point is 00:26:44 it all it It was, I mean, in Detroit, wasn't just white people. I mean, that's why it's destitute now because all the white people left and let all the black people suffer because that system allowed that. I just think it's like,
Starting point is 00:26:55 it's so fucked that, that we put all that, that, that mental success is like by money. i think that's another thing where they hijack the church too right when they i mean the church has always kind of been look churches are scams every now and then you get a no no i don't i disagree though i think a lot of churches are being run by con artists and now yes okay come on now you go back back even like the 18th century like the church would be in colludes with the government like there's always been i'm not talking about system i'm talking
Starting point is 00:27:37 about community building that's what like what our mamas talk about when they go to church they're not talking about they're talking about they go see their friends that's their community now that was hijacked by a bigger system that started preaching to them about gays and abortion for political gain for a long time that was not their whole scam was just like i live a little better life than my flock. That was their whole scheme. Right. And now it's, you know, mega churches. And that's not to say that you can't have a big church or you can't be rich in the name of Jesus. I'm not saying that. I'm just saying that once, you know, you start swiping your credit card at the altar, a thing, things complicate.
Starting point is 00:28:21 Wait, that's a thing? Yeah. Things complicated. Wait, that's a thing? Yeah. Like when you do, I don't want to call it the specific church, but there's a big mega church in Dallas where like, yeah, when you do tithing, like, which makes sense, like it's, you know, it's more efficient or whatever, but yeah,
Starting point is 00:28:34 the credit card swiper comes down the aisle. I mean, yeah, that does make sense. And we prefer you have the one that you can just tap it. It just feeds everything up. Now it's like more tasteful and from your phone. And so you put your card info in your phone and then you just do it through the phone. But I remember distinctly as a kid seeing a swiper. I need a giving app for my shows.
Starting point is 00:28:58 You do. Yeah. His name. Okay. His name. Under his eye. All right, guys. Let's get into some stories.
Starting point is 00:29:09 I do want to talk about the Elijah McClain story. This is one that we've brought up and been like, I can't even look at the videos. They make me cry. There's a video where he walks in and people at his job are having a surprise party for him and he's just such uh he's like so clearly moved by the fact that these people are having history's most half-assed surprise party for him it's like two people and a cake and he's just like i don't
Starting point is 00:29:42 know it's you cry when you watch watch it and know what happens to him. You see the police body cam footage of them running up on him. He's holding his hands out in fear and sort of instinctual defensiveness and just like, oh, no, no, what's happening? They put him in a chokehold that is designed to deprive your brain of oxygen until you pass out. Then the paramedics injected him with ketamine when they arrived and he died on the way to the hospital. You know, a combination of all the ways that institutional racism dehumanizes black human beings.
Starting point is 00:30:18 They didn't see a kind, gentle human being, which is what you get from just watching two seconds of a video of him. If they had just stopped to hear a single word he was saying, but they somehow saw a threat. The paramedics didn't treat his body like a human's body. They shot it full of an unsafe amount of tranquilizers, which is the medical industrial complex we're realizing is, I mean, a lot of people aren't just realizing it, but it's becoming more evident to mainstream culture that there is a huge institutional racism problem in medicine.
Starting point is 00:30:58 Yeah. Why did they tranquilize? I don't understand that because he was already restrained correct the same reason that you know these white folks do anything that they do the cruelty is the point also at the time that they were i believe that department was experimenting with using ketamine as a tranquilizer which is so bizarre to me that you think you can run experiments on people that you found on the fucking street but i mean that's the history of black folks when it comes to medicine you know like we've always been experienced yeah tuskegee hell they're trying to do with fucking covet like hey black people y'all first no no you know i mean hit her at a
Starting point is 00:31:34 lax steal our dna use it for fucking century like right it's so it's just really disgusting and i'm just like i don't know if there's any humanity left in a lot of these white folks and it's so so disappointing to see that there's just because I mean if you if we all are traumatized from slavery there has to be some kind of trauma as well on the white side of like we you know grew up with cruel watching cruel figures put their foot on the necks of other people and that was normalized for so long i mean people were having barbecues around hanging black bodies like so you can't tell me that kind of psychological trauma hasn't been passed down with these racist white folks as well and at this point it's just you see the videos nobody cares brianna taylor got murdered in her home no one has a good
Starting point is 00:32:21 excuse for that her killers are still running free and black women rarely get justice and it's so fucking disgusting yeah um but the with the elijah mclean thing uh people staged a kind of a beautiful protest he used to play the violin for uh cats in an animal shelter uh to help them sleep at night uh just because he's like literally the most gentle human being to ever exist and so people staged a protest where they were playing violin in the park uh to honor his memory and these the police just roll in like stormtroopers start grabbing hitting people while people are like you know playing violin saying no no and now we learned in the past few days that three officers uh have been suspended from that same police force because they were reenacting the chokehold
Starting point is 00:33:18 on the memorial people had set up where elijah mccClain was murdered by the police. And I don't know. We have a new show on our network with Baratunde Thurston called We're Having a Moment where he talks to an activist and photographer who was at the early protests in Minneapolis and talking about the protests functioning as sort of memorials for the hundreds of black men and women and children who are needlessly murdered by the police, like Mike Brown's mother and Eric Garner's,
Starting point is 00:33:51 one of his parents, are at the protests. And I've seen people kind of, like a small movement starting to kind of turn a lot of these protests into a memorial for elijah mclean and i think that's i don't know i think that needs to like i think that's a good strategy because there's just no way to look at this story without realizing you know what we're talking about. Just how stark it is. That is just as cartoonishly evil as Bull Connor,
Starting point is 00:34:31 as the shit that we were seeing in the 60s that I think a lot of white people had convinced themselves doesn't exist anymore. I'm just hoping that something can come out of that story because it's just fucking unbelievable. Yeah, there are no words. There are really no words right now for me.
Starting point is 00:34:58 There's no defense. No. It seems like the only instances where we're seeing any kind of justice have been when things were on fire yeah and peaceful protests you know news isn't covering them anymore because the cops are no longer for the most part out there inciting violence which obviously that's why this elijah story brought that back into the mainstream is because they showed up like goddamn stormtroopers when folks were just playing violins in the park and being sad um so what a terrible move i think too just oh yeah non-stop they just can't help themselves
Starting point is 00:35:35 it's like my friend uh mom and you has a joke about that where he was like we're like please guys we no more police brutality and they were like oh you you don't want police brutalities we'll smoke a whole pack of police brutalities like like we were like please stop and they were like oh we we could actually do more right like no that's not yeah i think my thing is like but the white liberal thing to me was very clear when i moved to seattle was from the South, was that I thought I was going to this fucking liberal oasis where I could really do some cool stuff. And what I found out when I got there is that, yes, they are liberal as hell if you have $250,000.
Starting point is 00:36:23 If you have that ante in, you can be in this liberal oasis where they don't care what you look like what you who you fuck where you come from anything as long as you can play this game that they're playing but that's the way they see it they do not understand poor people and they i don't know how to make them. I mean, they don't understand black people either. No, they just see black people as poor people. That's the thing. In Seattle, they kept calling the black neighborhood the ghetto when I moved there.
Starting point is 00:36:57 And I was like, there is no ghetto in Seattle. That's where black people live. That's a nice neighborhood, you pieces of shit. Right. Oh, yeah. that's where black people live that's a nice neighborhood you pieces of shit right oh yeah and i've had so many well-meaning you know liberal white folks uh try to talk to me about childhood and they'll be like yeah well you know when you're a kid and y'all doing the dozens and you know you you get you getting quarter waters and i was like i didn't grow up poor like no shade no shade but how you just gonna assume because i'm black they're like you know how it is when you're scratching and surviving are you quoting good times to me sir
Starting point is 00:37:30 but they have the same racist issues it's just they're more micro and not micro because they're still harmful but it's like little shit that they're doing every day and fucking ruining your psyche you know what i mean you get a job they're like ah that's good for you because you know white white comedians out here with white men we ain't getting no jobs it's like no the room is there's there's nine other white men and then there's me like you know like and that's the kind of thing you get on the left so it's like we've been just fucked all around oh it's your point of like how do we rally up you know everyone who's being marginalized by society it's just i don't know i'm still i would love to do it but it just seems like the cruelty one is the point for a lot of these people and two like people would just rather
Starting point is 00:38:16 have someone to look down on than be able to be successful with yes i i 100 agree i think that's a problem is that they need to feel better than someone yeah and they're also not terribly educated people so if they can look at one group of people that looks different and has less than them there they can be like well i'm not them where they don't understand like yo other poor people aren't holding you back that's not how that works right that's the fundamental thing i think it's an education thing and i just keep preaching like fundamentally if we take care of all poor people the whole system it's okay look at it as a plant or a house if your foundation is fucked the whole thing is fucked if the roots are fucked the whole thing is fucked there might be a one really cool part of it that the whole thing's going to come down
Starting point is 00:39:19 and that's i i think a lot of it also goes back to white liberals and uh how they have treated um that rural marginalized white community as well with just complete disdain and you know dehumanizing or treating them as stupid and not engaging with it and with them as, as human beings that has allowed that community to then be prey to forces like, you know, the Fox news and the Donald Trump's. Like I do think a lot of it goes back to like a lot of the shit that they
Starting point is 00:40:03 claim about white liberals in the mainstream media is absolutely 100 true um and you know that's that allows uh the the sort of dividing of of uh you know communities who don't who are being marginalized uh and it's you know well and it speaks to a problem the left has i think the biggest problem the left has is there is a communication issue between the classes on the left absolutely is that the the upper class is constantly policing the lower class about language and how they speak and their jokes and things like that where they don't understand that you don't understand blue-collar people communicate different.
Starting point is 00:40:55 Like me having a job in corporate America was totally different than me being a server or in back of the house at a restaurant. And I made more money being a server or in back of the house at a restaurant and i made more money being a server right yeah it's that's an issue that the left needs to talk about too now the right we need to accept that they don't give a fuck about being hypocrites they think that's funny when we call them that they don't give a shit they just want a response to whatever we have to say at them that's all it is most of them at this point most trumpers if we're being honest there's about 30 of our country that are pure
Starting point is 00:41:39 assholes doesn't matter color creed sex gender we just got 30 motherfuckers and all they want is a response to make you mad that's their whole life we've got to stop arguing with them they're that's all they want it's an abusive relationship it's like the cops where we're like hey like peacefully we're like hey you guys are being, you're a little much. And their response is like, we're a little much. Fuck you. I'll show you a little much. That's kind of what we're talking about.
Starting point is 00:42:13 I'll show you a lot much. That's it. That's, yeah. But you're right. It's not, it's not enough for some people. They're like, it doesn't matter how many George Floyd's or Breonna Taylor's there are. Like they're never, cause like they want the cops to keep other you know they want the cops to keep everybody well the brown people down um because that's the whole point is that for them to protect property and to keep the white areas white and they're doing a great job at that you know what i mean they're not policing their own neighborhoods they're not
Starting point is 00:42:40 they're not no that's another huge problem you need to live in that community yeah no one went to shoot andy griffith because he lived in that community and he kept that community cool and he didn't have to wear a gun barney we need less barnies up there that's what we need all right let's take another quick break and we'll be right back. I've been thinking about you. I want you back in my life. It's too late for that. I have a proposal for you. Come up here and document my project.
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Starting point is 00:47:09 What is something from your search history that is revealing about who you are? Oh, this was fun. So it was actually a Google image search. And it was basically the President of the United States. And I just wanted to remind myself that it's like all white men. It's like a really striking image. It's, and it's kind of creepy.
Starting point is 00:47:30 It's just like, it looks cult-like because like 40% of America is like non-white. So like to have like 44 white men over the course of like, what, 244 years is like creepy. So I just, it's a striking image. I wanted to see it well there's some
Starting point is 00:47:46 diversity of facial hair there you know there's a couple of chin strap beards and uh mustaches so a lot of a lot of diversity in the in the white male demographic some of the guys weren't completely gray when they entered office so So that was some diversity there. Was there any blondes? Bill Simmons' diversity of his writer's room is diverse in its thoughts. It's diverse in thought. I don't think we have had a blonde president. That's a great question.
Starting point is 00:48:19 Like a Robert Redford? Right. Is Trump technically blonde or is he you know what I think he is blonde I think he's like strawberry blonde oh my god this is why we shouldn't have blonde president we we elected like 80s movies were right blonde guys are all like evil villains and we elected one and look at it I mean look at him like, you know, every time Satan is like personified as a human or born as a human, he has like blonde hair and blue eyes. Yeah. I'm going to Google, Google like the president of the US and like look at a colored picture of it.
Starting point is 00:48:55 It's like super creepy. Yeah, it's wild. It looks like a bunch of cloned photographs. Have you seen the uh the artist too i don't know why this made me think of that but the uh artist who paints herself uh having sex with all the different presidents no i have never heard of this woman what the hell yeah it's pretty great uh is she doing different positions with the presidents yeah i know she is who's a giver and who's a who's a taker that's i want to know what these you know who's a generous lover yeah i'd imagine obama's would be good yeah yeah except i think it's a lot
Starting point is 00:49:35 of like the older ones like not obama which like taft i don't want to see Taft fucking. That's terrible. I mean, I don't want to yuck anyone's yum. You know, maybe, you know, well, there's some people who want to see a little jiggle, you know. I mean, that's not it. He just was not attractive to me. It ain't got nothing to do with his weight. I wonder if she has Lincoln with the hat on. Like, does Lincoln fuck with the hat on? That's a great question.
Starting point is 00:50:04 I would make him uh the artist's name is justine lie um it is amazing how many of the people uh i think that is taft she has one where she's like kind of being held delicately in the arms of a rather large bald man um but she's also you know has george washington in there uh yeah what about those guys with the wigs i know with the powdered white wigs like you gotta leave the wig on wig on yeah wig stays on what i mean yeah absolutely could you imagine they take it off and it's just all like matted, netty, like gray hair. Do they pin it down? What was the technology?
Starting point is 00:50:49 They didn't have lace fronts back then. It was just sitting on your head and it smelled bad. Just wobbling around up there. I read somewhere that it was also like if you had syphilis, you would just wear a wig so that people didn't know you had syphilis oh really yeah i don't know uh definitely fact check that guys because i'm not a historian but i've like i think it was in a tv show that i was in oh interesting damn that's what that's how lacy's got it right now she's like I think one of the many TV shows I was in
Starting point is 00:51:26 busted this myth. As we do on this show, we wanted to check in with a meme that was circulating days ago, so days after it's relevant. Second-rate energy. Second-rate energy of our second-rate podcast. But I did just kind of start thinking about it last night.
Starting point is 00:51:47 And also, you know, the preponderance of evidence from these memes. I now have some different snacks that I'm interested in trying. So I wanted to, you know to perform this service for the audience. It is a service and you're welcome. So I wanted to talk about the gas station meal meme. What is your gas station meal? What is the food that you will put together if and only if you're in a gas station?
Starting point is 00:52:24 What are some things that you only buy there um i can start off you can please please start that start the conversation so gas station is really the only place these days that i ever drink full sugar mountain dew um usually it's a mountain dew zero these days or a diet mountain dew uh in my personal life. Often I will indulge in a code of some color when I am at a gas station. Okay, could you give an example of a code color? Red is one of them. Oh, okay. Yeah, a classic.
Starting point is 00:52:55 I think there was a blue at some point. I think those varietals might have more caffeine and sugar in them. I know that Baja Blast does anyways. So Mountain Dew is a strictly gas station indulgence at this point, and I will sometimes get those big old ones, the tall boys,
Starting point is 00:53:15 the wide-mouthed tall boys. So I realize I only get peanuts in those tall, thin bags in gas stations when I'm looking for a healthy snack. Do you get the spicy ones? I like the spicy peanuts. I like the spicy ones, too. I like the honey roasted.
Starting point is 00:53:34 So not feeling too healthy, but just more healthy than Flamin' Hot Cheetos, which is what I get when I'm not feeling healthy, and I only get those at gas stations. And then finally, Big Cup Reese's with the Reese's Pieces inside. Those are my gas station picks. And then any icy or slushy or slurpy varietal. Love them. Good use of the word varietal.
Starting point is 00:53:59 Love to use varietal. When this meme was coming around, this for me was like, you know when someone, it's like when your friend gets into your thing and then all of a sudden they're talking about your thing and you're like, wait, hold on. This was my thing.
Starting point is 00:54:18 That's how I felt about the gas station meme because I eat almost exclusively at the gas station i know every item i know where it is i know like i have my friends there and so for people to just like pop up and be like hey i've eaten a chip before for me i'm like okay like congratulations on your chip but we've been out here like we've been at the gas station for years and years yeah so that being said there's so much more i feel like people are really like going to they're like i have a chip i have a chip and a sip or and sometimes if i'm feeling you know out of control i'll have a hot dog okay there are so many good options at the gas station. I'm a 7-Eleven person currently, but I've been other.
Starting point is 00:55:10 I used to be at Cumberland Farms back in the day. There's places you can go, a.m. to p.m., a lot of options. What you can get that is good at 7-Eleven is their salads. Salads are expensive, especially in Los Angeles. Salads are very expensive and so you you find yourself saying i wish i could get a salad for five dollars where would a salad for five dollars be 7-eleven the ingredients are pretty much fresh there is more other things than lettuce in it but it's good and it's never made me sick that's important gas station sushi never gotten sick but never enjoyed it necessarily
Starting point is 00:55:45 there's there's so many options you can eat vegan at a 7-eleven i don't think we're legally allowed to recommend 7-eleven sushi like i think our legal department would have an objection to that because we might kill someone i'm gonna get i get called out every time but it's not like it i mean i don't eat it. I've moved on to the salads. You can get a healthy option and a diet Dr. Pepper and then get out of there. Well, you can have the sushi that doesn't have sushi in it, which is what I do sometimes. It'll be like the rice and then it'll have avocado and cucumber.
Starting point is 00:56:23 You're not getting like a rainbow roll with all the different types of fish. No, you're just carb loading like crazy. Yeah. So diet, Dr. Pepper and salad and sushi are your picks.
Starting point is 00:56:38 Jamie DDP salad. If you're, if you're like, if you're needing a little extra something, I would throw in some uh some maybe a chip maybe a chip or maybe one of their um whatchamacallit they're weird like like rollers the things the rollers anything yeah people get a little nervous around the rollers but i say give it a shot and see you know see and then take a covid test a couple days later wow
Starting point is 00:57:09 they should be sold together as like an extra value meal they should yeah yeah um all right danny what what is your gas station meal well i one up you, Jack, because I get the healthy Mountain Dew, which is kickstart. It's the one that has vitamins in it. I would have picked that if I didn't buy them by bulk at Ralph's. So I can't say that's an exclusively gas station thing. There's some fancy gas stations in West Hollywood that only I would be down there if I had to take a meeting and was forced to go down there. But the baked peas, which are healthy. Do you know what I'm talking about? The ones that you're supposed to put on your salad, but I never do that.
Starting point is 00:57:57 I just eat the entire bag. Right. And your fingers get all like, Jimmy, do you know what I'm talking about? I think so. Yeah. Do they have like wasabi, the wasabi piece? Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:08 Those are great. That and like the sea salt ones. I also only at gas stations get Fiji water because I want to feel rich. That is, that's like going to the hair cuttery in Beverly Hills. You're like, it's like, like it is technically a really fancy thing to do.
Starting point is 00:58:27 Yeah, and I'm pretty sure it's just the same as all the other water in there, but for some reason at gas stations, I specifically get Fiji water and I leave feeling good
Starting point is 00:58:35 about myself. Like, I don't know, just treat yourself once in a while to a rich person thing, you know, and how much are they?
Starting point is 00:58:42 They're like, the tiny little bottles are like, I think $6 or something. So $6 and you can feel rich as hell are they really six dollars are they they're like five to six dollars right the big ones get pretty expensive i'll occasionally flex and get like one of those tiny little chameleon coffee cans if i'm feeling like a millionaire i'll just like strut in. Yeah. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:59:06 There is something very strange about any time I am at the 7-Eleven and everything is rung up and it costs over $10, you're like, something's wrong. Something's gone wrong. It can happen, though. It's happened to me. You and the cashier look at each other with disbelief. Wait, what?
Starting point is 00:59:24 It only happens a few times a day that people you're not buying a carton of cigarette right unless you're getting like white claw or like cigarettes that's that's how you crack the the two honestly nuts are very expensive like the caramel roasted almonds or some i mean I mean, mine is just like, yeah. And I would say dried mango, but I'm pretty sure it's like dipped in sulfuric acid, like, you know, to keep it good. Like never look at the back of those dried fruit things.
Starting point is 00:59:59 We dip these in battery acid. I'll sometimes dip into like a Rockstar, a Diet Rockstar, the like textured white can. Those can be fun. Size of an above ground pool. Some Stroop waffles. They sell like packs of two Stroop waffles. Love a Stroop waffle. Also, Rockstar has a healthy, I think, a healthy in quotes.
Starting point is 01:00:20 They have a healthy. But if you want to treat yourself, get yourself some red vines, bite off the top, put it into your rock star, and that's your funky silly straw. And it's saving the environment. I used to love to do that when I was trying
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