The Daily Zeitgeist - Weekly Zeitgeist 140 (Best of 8/24/20-8/28/20)

Episode Date: August 30, 2020

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Starting point is 00:02:13 favorite segments from this week, all edited together into one nonstop infotainment laugh extravaganza. Yeah. So without further ado, here is the weekly zeitgeist. Well, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by one of the faces on Mount Zeitmore. He is the hilarious, the talented Mr. Billy Wayne Davis! He's shooting guns in the air. Six should not be good for your house. How's it going, man?
Starting point is 00:02:55 There's already holes. That's how I practice. Nice. What's good, man? How are you? Everything's all right. I mean, it's not all right, but it is. Do you know what i mean yeah yeah everything is what's a small victory you had recently i'm in good shape okay hey look at you you also got
Starting point is 00:03:14 a mustache going a little bit yeah yeah i don't know that's a victory i don't know if that's winning yeah i'm definitely seeing like what baseball playing billy wayne davis looks like when you have that mustache oh man i couldn't grow shit when i was playing ball so it was it was mostly i would just like grow my hair out when i could and then i would shave it and that would be the change got it and then people are like oh he's he's crazy he's a real card that one how's the baby everything good yeah everything's good i've yeah it's it's weird do you know what i mean and we're like trying to figure everything out but i miss touring not even the performing i don't that's the thing I've realized. Like, I don't have to be on Zooms and doing shit like that to be like, hey, I tell jokes and look at me. Like, that's been a very relieving part of this for me was like, oh, I don't have to do that part.
Starting point is 00:04:16 I can write or be on podcasts or do whatever and get that. But like the traveling part, like I really meant, like that's part of me that I didn't realize like, Oh, I have to go be moving. Yeah. Is it like the, like, cause you feel sort of constrained or it's more like the stimulation of
Starting point is 00:04:35 traveling is what you miss. Yeah. It's not constrained. I like it being at home. I have like, that's what it, that was never a problem. Even before quarantine quarantine my wife
Starting point is 00:04:45 would have to be like hey you need to leave the house and right i got my little room i'm good yeah right right got all my stuff getting that getting on a plane new places the air smells different eat something yeah and then it's just a nice reminder first of all it makes things real they i they we went to for the grown local podcast my cannabis podcast we just went to humboldt for three or four days we took a lot of precautions but it it helps it's tough to get there so even the virus was like ah there's a couple of us up there but we we don't like to talk about it. Yeah, we don't like them that bad. But, like, even being up there, it was just like my friend had never, one of our producers had never been up there,
Starting point is 00:05:33 and he just kept going, like, it's magical. And I was like, well, keep in mind it's just mostly trees, so you're getting, like, a ton of oxygen for the first time, so you feel hot. Right, right, yeah. It is magical, but that other feeling that you have is just like you're breathing what you're supposed to be breathing. Yeah. Just pure gen, dude.
Starting point is 00:05:50 Oxygen. The bar is so low, man. The bar is so low. Well, then, like, I got a test as soon as I came back. And because you come back to L.A. and immediately you're like, you're stopped up and your head kind of hurts and you're just kind of like oh this is do i oh i don't have it this is just what breathing is okay right right what is something you think is underrated getting ready for your day and just not going anywhere but get up get dressed do your makeup hello yeah yeah gotta you know look cute and then show up to your desk which is right next to your bed there you go you just rotate in your chair you're like yep
Starting point is 00:06:32 i'm ready for work there's my commute just a quick rotation my commute is a 90 degree turn yeah it was nice i i mean i started putting on clothes i haven't worn on in months just for like little things i'm like you know what i'm gonna show out at the gas station today i don't care like this i'm surprised this shirt has been sitting here for so long uh and then i also did this thing where i just retired a bunch of clothing where i'm like well i'm not gonna be wearing a collared shirt in public for a while so i'm gonna put this in a bag that goes in the garage now, just so I can, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:07:07 But yeah, there is something to giving ourselves those little moments. Like I'm realizing how much the clothing or presentational aspect dimension is coming into like, just giving myself a little bit of pep in my step when I go out versus before. I'm like, look, man, it's a pandemic, dude. Like, yeah, my pants are, I'm wearing Ewok print, you know, pajama pants. But that's just it is what it is. I feel like there's like a sleep.
Starting point is 00:07:32 And this is definitely not scientifically accurate. But I wake up so much more if I take a shower. If I don't take a shower, I feel like sleep is like still clinging to my skin. And like, i'm just like froggy the whole day i really need that i need that uh how hot is your hot shower cold shower it doesn't matter yeah but you know some people are like you're like i need the you know some people are like i need burns when i go in there i need. I need it to just be... There's actually a setting 99 degrees on our shower that is like, if you
Starting point is 00:08:08 press a button, you can go hotter. But that's my wife really... That's taken to the limit. Yeah, my wife goes scorched earth on the shower. But I just go right at that middle point. Not too hot. Not too cold.
Starting point is 00:08:24 And it's appropriate for both my two-year-old and for me so uh that's how you know it's it's pretty uh tolerance of a two-year-old yeah i have the i have the pain tolerance of a two-year-old i do start crying uh if it's a little too hot and then my wife has to come in and adjust it down uh but you know and i do use no tear shampoo go ahead oh you're like because it stings i'm sorry my eye's gonna be red all day now sarah's like i don't want ice on it sarah's doing a zoom call with a patient and i come in out of the shower with just like... Just lather all over. I can't see.
Starting point is 00:09:09 Have you, Tori, did you go from not doing your shower, your routine, to suddenly being like, okay, I'm going to begin implementing this? Or did you stay pretty consistent since the last day? No, I stayed pretty consistent. I added a cold shower because, yeah, it's really hard to get going. So I do this thing where i'll like put on a couple of songs like super super loud and like put the
Starting point is 00:09:32 water as cold as it will go and then i'm just in there for two songs like whatever it takes so what are those songs uh well obviously wet ass pussy right now oh my gosh yeah it's mean it's just whatever beyonce jidenna whatever i feel like listening to that morning right i just wasn't sure if like there's a very specific vibe when you're like i'm about to go into the frigid water i need like to just but yeah you just need something you can like vibe to a little dance too yeah because you gotta keep you gotta keep it moving a little bit otherwise you you're just going to jump out. Interesting. Cause in my,
Starting point is 00:10:06 see, I'm preparing for just all out battle. So I'm thinking like, okay, I'm going to listen to DMX's first album. It's dark and hell's hot. And I'm just gonna be like, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:10:15 Like just trying to like deal with it. But I like your strategies more like use that energy and then redirect it to motion. Yeah. I like it. Very philosophical. So that's, that's what I've, that's what I've been doing.
Starting point is 00:10:26 But yeah, I never really switched to the yoga pants all day, all night kind of thing. I mean, I did that when my kids were little. And sometimes it's a necessity. But my kids are bigger now. So I can get dressed and look presentable, even if I'm just walking to my Zoom call. Yeah, well, I'm still a baby.
Starting point is 00:10:45 So the Ewok so will never die what's something you think is underrated something is underrated uh man walking walking is underrated i didn't realize i wasn't a walker till the pandemic because i got flat feet so i can't i don't like running outside. But I need some kind of cardio, bro. So I've just been walking in the neighborhood. Usually when I used to see old people walking, I'm like, man, being old. My mom and dad used to walk back in the day a lot, all the time. I never joined them.
Starting point is 00:11:14 But now walking is just very, it's a bit of a workout. And I get a lot of stuff done. I love making phone calls to friends while I walk. I like grabbing a little Jamba juice. Oh, what flavor? It's actually called Jamba now, isn't it? Just Jamba? Is this Jamba?
Starting point is 00:11:31 Yeah, we were covering that because they didn't want to pigeonhole themselves. They didn't want to corner themselves. And they didn't want you to think that it's just Jamba juice there, even though I couldn't tell you. I remember I used to work by a Jamba juice, and I would go there on my lunch break, and the pretzels were trash. So I just kept it to the fucking juices. Yeah, the pretzels were way too rough. The oatmeal's not bad, but yeah, no disrespect to Jamba Juice. My cousin told me they can't call it Jamba Juice because there's no actual juice in it.
Starting point is 00:12:00 It's like KFC, that urban legend from middle school. They got hella fruits. The fruits are just a display. That's like the urban legend where it was like, they have to call it KFC because it's not really chicken. It's like... It's grown in a lab. They don't have heads.
Starting point is 00:12:15 I'm like, all right, bro. That's like what your health store mother told you in the early 90s and shit. Right. Yeah, I'm more of like an acai bowl guy. I used to be a mango gogo oh yeah gogo was my i'm a caribbean passion you know guy caribbean passion is nice you know that's like for special days you know i'm saying gotcha gotcha mango gogo is consistent you feel me that's that's
Starting point is 00:12:38 a normal tuesday right there but like caribbean passion that's a Saturday. That's a weekend spot. Have some vodka in your pocket. Oh, I like that a lot. Oh, yeah, like Jamba daiquiris. Woo! Yeah, yeah. Wow, that would be something. I would, you know, if like when Vegas, well, Vegas is open already because they don't give a fuck. But like when people, it goes back to full, like full steam. You know how like there's always like those daiquiri barsiri bars littered all over Vegas? If Jamba just had
Starting point is 00:13:06 one that they're like, these will get you fucking tipped. They would probably have the biggest line out the back, I think. 100%. You know, it's funny. I promised you somebody at Jamba corporate pitched it, and it was shut down. He was so hyped about it
Starting point is 00:13:22 too. He got his rest that night, woke up and he's like, he was so hyped about it too. He got his rest that night, woke up. Yeah. He's like, I call it Jamba after dark. And they're like, for the last time, we're not selling. All right. What about a Jackery?
Starting point is 00:13:37 It's like, no. Right. Jamboree. Jamboree. Right. Yeah. Walking is, I think people are starting to appreciate walking again i mean that was a big it was a big thing i think throughout history like i know ben franklin was like loved to talk about walking and like how like that was a big revelation in his autobiography was like
Starting point is 00:14:05 and people don't understand but walking is really good for you most people try to avoid it um but then like the jogging craze came around but now i think something about just getting the fuck out of your house and also the fact that paul rudd said that the way he got into shape for ant-man was walking uh no he didn't walking That's what he said? He said walking was his secret? Yeah. I thought it was CGI. Wait, was he like super cut up in that movie? Just like compared to
Starting point is 00:14:34 where he was before, I guess. I always just see him as just relatively Paul Ruddish, so okay. I didn't know he had that walker bod. I think walking is the walker bod well it's because i walk in like it doesn't really count in your head doesn't count right so you're working out again that day without even realizing it you know so i was just missing out we don't realize like how many steps we're missing yeah i'm doing a quarantine then you know i started
Starting point is 00:15:02 putting on some weight i was like okay i gotta figure out what's going on. I realized I just hadn't been walking that much like I usually would, just doing the internship. And so, yeah, I would just kind of walk around the neighborhood and like, I'll find some things I can do while I walk to kind of, you know, be productive at the same time. Yeah. Podcasts, reading books, you can do a bunch of stuff.
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Starting point is 00:19:09 Get the facts. Go to realdealonfentanyl.com. This message is brought to you by the Ad Council. And we're back. Mariah, we like to ask our guests, what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are? Yeah. So I think I looked up my most recent search query and I was looking up the Georgia Institute of Transitional Justice because I was doing a live stream yesterday with a Senate candidate here in Georgia who is running on a platform
Starting point is 00:19:41 of single payer legal care for all. And so as a part of our discussion of criminal legal reform, I wanted to look up some data on racial disparities and sentencing in Athens, which my friend Avery Murdy with the Jordan Institute on Transitional Justice did some really good statistical analysis on last year. And so things like the fact that in Athens, Hispanics are less likely to get arrested, but more likely to be sentenced to longer confinement. Stuff like the fact that black men are only 13% of the Athens population, but 45% of those sentenced to confinement in state court and 60% of those sentenced to
Starting point is 00:20:15 confinement in superior court. And that black men serve longer sentences than any other demographic group when that data is adjusted for charges faced and defended criminal history. So even if you've done a similar amount of shit before, and even if you're charged with the same thing as like a white woman or a black woman or a Hispanic man, uh, you're going to get in jail longer. So, uh, you know, that all led us to, uh, talking about how a guaranteed quality legal care for all is an important part of disrupting the cycle of mass incarceration. So that's kind of what I that tells you a lot about me, I think. I mean, I think for people who are the uninitiated, you are a commissioner in District two, correct? Yes, that's right. So for two years now, I've served on the Athens-Clarke County Commission, which is
Starting point is 00:20:58 akin to a city council in a city of larger size. And so dealing with local ordinances, the way we, you know, make budgets, all that kind of stuff. Right here in Athens, GA. Yeah. You did not get into that because you were a lifelong,
Starting point is 00:21:14 like politician. Hell no. You come from a dynastic political family. One of the, you know, yeah. Sharecroppers. One of the pod save America guys didn't come up to
Starting point is 00:21:27 you and go through your phone and check how much donor money you had in your in your phone correct not yet if it ever happens feel free to shoot me in the back of the head because that means i'm over for me it's not i'm not i'm out they got to you yeah but can you tell us a little bit about how you kind of came to be a commission are you one of the youngest commissioners ever um i well uh there was one younger than me before but fuck him he was a white dude whatever uh you know whatever um but so i'm the youngest right now i'm the first openly queer elected official in athens history as well um but i got into politics i'm a hip-hop artist i'm a rapper. And I started organizing
Starting point is 00:22:06 hip hop shows. But through that, learning a lot of the skills of like political organizing, getting all people hyped up, getting them, you know, attention wrapped, call and response, sharing these stories of struggle. And so I met this cat, like through a hip hop show, who was running for office at the time and took me on first as his field director later as campaign manager and then in the spring of 2018 i decided fuck it i'm gonna run for office myself because we need a full slate of progressives running in order to achieve the progressive change that we had run on and knocking on doors on telling the city about um in addition to that in my district there was a guy who had served before me for 25 years, run unopposed for 25 years, was about to be replaced by someone he had handpicked,
Starting point is 00:22:51 who was running unopposed. And I was like, that ain't democracy, baby. So win or lose, win or lose, I was going to come in there and talk to the people about affordable housing, talk to people about fair, free public transportation and, uh, defunding the police back before that was popular. And so, um, and yeah, I just ran and just went for it, you know, just as a rapper who like knew other rappers who had been treated unfairly about the police or couldn't find places to live because of gentrification or couldn't afford childcare or making 725 working at Dairy Queen and like thinking about all the problems we talked about in our music and how to alleviate them,
Starting point is 00:23:26 not through just organizing culturally, you know, and bringing the community together through music, but actually bringing the community together for policy change. Yeah. That's, I mean, it's just, it's, it's great to hear stuff like that because I think so many people are finding themselves in situations too, where you look at the leadership locally, you're like, who the fuck are these people? And like, what, why am I surprised that nothing the fuck are these people and like what why am i surprised
Starting point is 00:23:46 that nothing's changing with these people there and just to even you know stories like yours of just how you organically you're like you know what a leads to b leads to c leads to me in office i think is a great uh just a great like tale and story because i find you know the more people i talk to even in my own friend group they're like that idea of being like, dude, like, do one of us like have to run or something? Like people just not get it. And like, yeah, if you find yourself asking yourself that, that means you've probably looked at who's out there vying for power and it ain't it. It ain't it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:19 Because people aren't that smart. You know, they might have a lot of money or connections, but like they're really not that good at this and no one challenges them so many people run unopposed all the time right and so i advocate all the time like win or lose if you get these ideas out there you raise the bar for what the community expects of their local governance what they you know imagine for the future of their community by pushing uh your challenger the people the incumbents right to actually have a town hall, to actually listen to the people. So there's nothing to lose but your chains.
Starting point is 00:24:51 There's everything to gain. I better see both of y'all on a ballot. Up here in 2082, I don't see both of y'all on a ballot, I swear. LA City Council, woo! LA City Council. They're going to come for me, but I'm like,
Starting point is 00:25:02 Yeah. They're like, you're not ready for my podcast or mouth in these debates. What is something you think is overrated, Mariah? So I actually think taking down Confederate monuments is kind of overrated. I mean, to put it in like not in all contexts, but like specifically, we just spent $400,000 in Athens to have our Confederate monument relocated. And that's not even like destroyed, melted down to make gold coins or something. It was going to get moved to like a field somewhere. $400,000 that could have instead been spent on like quadruplex for a homeless family or economic development to put like 50 struggling mothers through a CNA program.
Starting point is 00:25:42 Could have created countless community gardens. struggling mothers through a cna program right create a countless community gardens and instead it's like simply to erase the site the daily reminder when you walk downtown that like the confederacy is like it was a thing it has like you know vestiges here today and so i mean if you and your friends go to lowe's and grab some like chains and some rope and do it that way I mean I ain't gonna be mad at you but I think there's a lot better things we can spend our money on as local governments than these symbolic gestures of like erasing white supremacy by actually like putting material resources into the communities that have been impacted by white supremacy then like sort of like rehoming uh like a like a puppy like this like well let's
Starting point is 00:26:26 take this confederate statue to a new like place that's on a farm where it can live out the rest of the state yeah right right right so was the 400 000 like merely just to like remove it like patch over the like the disruption of the statue being there or like what's the cost to relocate and remove it you know put it in storage until they can be like, get it worked out. Like, you know, the new place they're going to put it and then the reassembly of it.
Starting point is 00:26:52 Oh my God. In its new location, piece by piece, and then put it back together in some distant field. So yeah. $400,000 infuriating. Like what is that? Like Rodan's the thinker or some shit where they're
Starting point is 00:27:06 like well we gotta do so we gotta take right we gotta make sure i mean if you're already gonna if you're already gonna agree that it's not it's time has come and no longer has a purpose to have be on public display like going these other efforts also last time i checked you could store a motherfucking sculpture outside right yeah so like hey you never know okay in a ditch so you could get rain on it or the sun it's like yeah that's sort of the bite whatever okay so take it out to its field for 400k yeah uh and finally what is a myth what's something people think is true you know to be false okay well here can i say something serious for this one yeah yeah please okay well um so one of the questions I get most in my campaign is about unhoused people, about people experiencing homelessness.
Starting point is 00:27:51 And a lot of people say, oh, I hear from folks that – or I think a lot of people who are homeless don't want a house, that they are quote-unquote service resistant, which is a term that you hear in the papers and said that they don't want services, that they don't want to get into a shelter bed, that they don't want to get in. And I feel like that is the biggest myth that we hear on the campaign trail. And I'm always talking about ways in which I can prove to you that that's wrong. And that if we actually made beds available, if we made housing available, if we made sure people were able to stay in their house, we would not be in the situation that we're in in Los Angeles. This is not about resistance. This is about lack of provision of services and of tenant protections. That's it. Is that myth kind of born out of like a very narrow thing? And then that sort of became the overarching theme in terms of like how unhoused communities are looked at? Or is it just a very disingenuous attack
Starting point is 00:28:46 from like the people who are like the NIMBY folks or, you know? No, and I, you know, I don't think so. Or for the most part, I don't think so. I think, of course, there's always people who are, you know, saying this in bad faith. But I think for the most part, people have just seen a homelessness crisis that has only grown. Right.
Starting point is 00:29:07 In their in especially in the last few years. Right. Like our unhoused population here in L.A. has gone up by 78 percent since 2013. Yeah. Right. It's just like staggering the amount of growth. And I think people see individuals living in encampments in their neighborhood that they've seen for years. And they just get into this thing of, okay, well, they don't want to go inside. You know,
Starting point is 00:29:30 I'm sure that I'm paying all these taxes for homeless services. They must be getting the help that they need. And they're saying no, when in reality, that's so not the case. And, you know, one fact I always share with people, which I feel like really, really makes people step back is, you know, New York City has a larger population of of people who are homeless. Right. But so many fewer people who live on the streets because they have the number of shelter beds that they need for every person experiencing homelessness in New York. That's part of a court case that was in the city of New York that forces them to do that. And so because of that, you just see much less visible homelessness. And so when you tell people that, you're like, oh, yeah, that's right.
Starting point is 00:30:15 And L.A. has less than a quarter of the shelter beds that we need. So a big part of why people are on the streets and continue to be on the streets is because they don't have a place to go. on the streets and continue to be on the streets is because they don't have a place to go. And so I think that really, it really helps to open up the conversation about, not about anger towards people who are living on the streets, but anger towards the city that's done wrong by them, of course, but by all of us, you know? Yeah. That's so deeply American to blame the individual rather than the system. Like that just seems to be the way the story that Americans want to tell ourselves. Yeah, it's sort of like the worst rhetorical habit we have when engaging in an issue like that.
Starting point is 00:30:57 It's almost like it's never like the normal. You'd be like, yeah, what's wrong with them? And what is the conditions in which this occurred? Right. Because that is actually more important than, well, what's wrong with them? And Brandon's like, what is the conditions in which this occurred? Because that is actually more important than, hey, what's your story? Do you like living on the street? No, there's a whole path that they got there and a number of failures occurred
Starting point is 00:31:16 along the way to end up there. And I think, yeah, we just have this lack of wanting to say our parents are shitty or something that the politicians or the country could be better and then it's better to be like well it's got to be them because i'm doing okay and so that's it's not the system because i'm okay in it yeah and i just want to say one thing about americans which is this is not an immutable fact about americans right because the campaign has been so successful at pushing back on that and i feel like people want to push
Starting point is 00:31:44 back on that right they want to believe people want to push back on that. They want to believe the best about other humans. And I think they want to be able to respond to this issue and every other issue with compassion. Most people do. And I think if you tell them, we have failed in providing evidence-based compassionate solutions here in Los Angeles, but we can. They're like, oh yes yes. Okay, perfect. Let's do that. They don't want to be... I mean, I wouldn't be doing this if I didn't believe that most people felt that way. Yeah. I feel like we've seen things metastasize, like seen some of these beliefs that have been kind of core to the American ethos just metastasized so badly.
Starting point is 00:32:28 And also there's sort of a disconnect with younger people and, you know, millennials and Gen Z that I am really hopeful that that is going to be a relic of the past. That idea of like individualism and the idea that socialism is a bad word. Alright, so our writer JM was wondering what Halloween is going to look like in 2020. All the big celebrations at theme parks where you get chased by people
Starting point is 00:32:59 dressed as zombies and all that good shit have already been cancelled. Trick or treating. I think a recent poll found that only 27% dressed as zombies and all that good shit have already been canceled yeah um trick-or-treating i think a recent poll found that only 27 of parents are planning on taking their kids out this year um there's actually an app that was created by i think mars uh that is basically virtual trick-or-treating where you go around on your phone and get IOUs for candy from your neighbors. Which sounds...
Starting point is 00:33:29 Are they legally binding? Exactly. You're like, I don't know, man. This is how we save the post office. We get the IOUs for the candy, put it in the mail, ship it to the children's houses. Perfect.
Starting point is 00:33:44 Have a huge rush on shipping the last weekend in october going into the beginning of november yeah oh wait i take it back because then it's going to be harder for the to get counted so no i like this yeah it was trump is like this is what you're gonna do hold it for after the election. You know what I mean? The new Halloween, November 28th. Great.
Starting point is 00:34:14 Thanksgiving, Black Friday, Halloween Sunday or Halloween Saturday. Just turn November all the way up. But the way the app works is basically neighbors buy credits for their candy. Kids collect and redeem at participating stores. So there's never any interaction. And then if you... Then how do you judge the neighbors for the kind of candy they give? Can you leave comments?
Starting point is 00:34:33 Like notes? Like, man... Right. Oh, yeah. Like, I'm about to redeem this coupon for toothbrushes. Like on Yelp or some shit. Right. And you send them gifts of eggs and toilet paper
Starting point is 00:34:44 if they have the whack candy. Yes, yes. With like three M&Ms and a little fun-sized bag. All right. This is my 80s stand-up routine. What's the deal? Why are they called fun? It's less candy.
Starting point is 00:34:58 I don't have fun. Who's it fun for? I'm from home. It's not enough candy to have fun. You want the whole thing. Old-eld bits. Old Seinfeld bits of this. Did you read his op-ed in the New York Times?
Starting point is 00:35:14 I can't even begin to imagine. It was so weird because it was like sort of adopting this attitude of like, for the people who think New York's dead, look at yourself this whole city it's built on people picking it up from the ashes and making it better when i moved here in the late 70s before the dogs pooper scooper laws there was dog shit everywhere i didn't leave i knew it and i loved it and it was like this whole thing about the resilience of new yorkers which is true but like it was it was also aimed at somebody who had said that like new york's dead and like i'm going to florida and that that really that really uh really got him fired up but then it's also like my man like you you have so much money like you have a like a gilded palace in the sky in which
Starting point is 00:36:02 you look down upon manhattan like from versus like you're not elbow to elbow with people like on the metro or some shit like that you know so uh but i think for many new yorkers doesn't get to view everybody as ants you know right there are people it turns out so but yeah it was interesting because i i while i was like okay i get the feeling like i felt like new york twitter like it was very split like a was like, okay, I get the feeling. I felt like New York Twitter, it was very split. A lot of people were like, this is the shit, man. Thank you. And then Jack Posobiec, the fucking right-wing troll, was sort of like, Jerry Seinfeld's a billionaire.
Starting point is 00:36:35 And I was like, what? Okay. Granted, but like, okay, so now you've found the same take as leftist Twitter. Congrats. You did it! Yeah. Yeah, they accidentally hit on the truth every once in a while. Yeah, it's always funny when they're like, right.
Starting point is 00:36:49 It's usually in response to a Hollywood celebrity doing something. Right, but it's like somehow the other billionaires, you're like, no, they're okay. What they're trying to do is create liberty in this country. Yes. One trend that originated in Japanapan and seems to be at least people are trying it out here drive-through haunted houses where that sounds kind of lit yeah i mean judging from the pictures it basically looks like a reverse car wash where people just like smear your windshield with fake blood but it's but they i don't know i i would be freaked out i actually went to that was what i did with my
Starting point is 00:37:28 kids this weekend is took them to a car wash and that was thoroughly entertaining so oh yeah drive through yeah that's the thing like a reverse car wash would be even better who when you're in there i also feel like if you're real jumpy like you'd be like for sir turn your car off and please put the keys in this plate so there's you don't errantly run over the scaracters during the drive to reverse car wash yeah yeah because all it takes one person to not really be on top of shit and you have a real fucked up haunted house situation like it would need to be like a a car wash where you're on the like a track but even then in neutral yeah and even because i remember one of the first times in high school i
Starting point is 00:38:11 got in one of those things i was like don't i leave it in drive like it's not going and i could accelerate i was like oh shit almost rear-ended this escalator i was like no no no this ain't it yeah based on the pictures that looks like you just drive into a little uh storage container people just roll up to your car and uh act like zombies and paw at your window and then it's like all right you can you can leave now okay so it's like having a blm sign in your car going through like a conservative rally or something yeah yeah exactly All lives back the blue. Uh-huh.
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Starting point is 00:42:51 one by the way i love every time you're the guest just watching you uh figure out what your myth and overage and underage is you like have like three ideas that are entertaining before you land on the on the one you want to go let's do this way yeah that is how that is how my brain works it's fun that you guys can see it did you have that evolution of looking at entertainers as artists and like sort of mystifying that and then realizing like what the no like these are different things or like creating a myth like a mysticism around the idea of being an entertainer artist because i know i had these like perceptions of what that meant that i had to very quickly let go of like as i got older and started like doing my own work yeah i think it was a lot of like you
Starting point is 00:43:36 have this idea of they misuse those words a lot right Right. And then in country music, they have this thing called Entertainer of the Year, which I think is, as I got older, that's the most appropriate worded award I've ever seen. Because it hit me because it was like Garth Brooks. He kept winning it. And then as you get older, you realize like this motherfucker's all over the place opinion wise if you if you follow his catalog or like what he's saying or anything
Starting point is 00:44:14 you're like i don't think i don't know what he really it's just all over the place right okay and then you just realize like he's an entertainer. He's going to do anything, hop around and, you know, and he's wearing whatever town jersey he's in, playing that arena, he's going to pant, you know, that's a, you start realizing like, oh, that's a, this is a, all this is a business decision. Showman, yeah. So that's, and I don't think if I didn't get into doing what I do,
Starting point is 00:44:49 because I would have ever put those together in a way. That's me saying it on a podcast as meaningful as I said it, because I wouldn't care. But I think everybody, you come to a point when you're doing, when you're putting your name on something that are your ideas, you have to make that decision. Like, is this for money or is this for this?
Starting point is 00:45:17 Right. Or am I doing all this for money? Right. You know, so I think it was just something I had to my my point of view of it was like i made a point where i was like as long as i admit to myself what i'm doing and to everybody else as long as i'm clear like this is for this and this is my point of view and i'm transparent about it then we're fine it was the melding of like artist and entertainer where you're like nah you're just selling shit man and that's fine but don't don't lie to me yeah don't
Starting point is 00:45:52 fuck up the definition like that because it's like yeah there's a lot of quotes that go around where someone someone famously said is like you know in previous eras people became famous for their achievements and now we live in an era where fame is the achievement and it's not really about these people actually breaking new ground and doing things it's just like face du jour you know like entity du jour that we're all like we're all obsessed with and the art thing is also really interesting too because yeah like when you create shit you really do have to have a moment where in any creative process you have that self edit thing happening in your head and you have to be careful of who that what that self edit is representing. Is it your is it your perception of what the how the audience is going to take something you're going to say?
Starting point is 00:46:38 And then are you changing it because you want to do something that satisfies the audience? Or are you making a creative decision because you're an artist and you're this is a matter of your own self-expression it's not the you're not you're not sort of fixated on the outcome of how it's received when you're making art because you're like this is merely the medium in which i express myself in now certain certain mediums like yeah like you can't just go up there and say some wild shit or do some wild shit and be like that's my art uh but like on another level when you like really have these creations that you you know are molding yourself like that really does come into it of like what am i what is it for who is it for and why am i doing it i think it's interesting to think about the whole thing on a continuum like
Starting point is 00:47:19 you know because there are some people who get into entertainment but are more artists, and then they don't fit necessarily. Andre 3000 I think of as somebody who's an artist, but the demands of being an entertainer don't necessarily mesh with him, which is why he hasn't put out an album. Garth is an entertainer. But I've always said Chris Gaines is the artist, right? I think that goes without saying.
Starting point is 00:47:50 That's why he had to do that. I don't even know if that's a joke. Because I can't even... I don't think in... I think in some way you're fucking right. I think that's the way he views that. Right.
Starting point is 00:48:08 But I do love the entertainer artist like uh las culturistas has actress or movie star and uh who weekly has a who versus them i think uh artist first energy verse entertainer is a really good uh good conversation starter we might have to uh make that a podcast well my thing is too like what miles said is like the fame as a reward is also phony because that's misleading because you us three right now could pool our money together and buy a publicist and that publicist can make the three of us whatever bullshit trio we came up with right and make us fucking famous and people could be like i don't understand what it is these guys do right and we're like what we do is we hire up we pay a publicist this amount of money each month, and they keep us in the fucking rags or whatever system, and now you guys talk about the fucking dingbat trio.
Starting point is 00:49:12 Right. Yeah. And if it keeps going long enough, we come up with some bullshit to do live so people just come to see what it is, and it's like they have a cow on stage, and one of them milks it it's weird the other guy's juggling a soccer ball while smoking a blunt it's exactly and the one dude i don't even think he knows what's going on but it works and i will give them 50 every time
Starting point is 00:49:40 they come to the other guys like the dancer from, right, right. The other guy is like the dancer from Mighty Mighty Boston's, but there's no music playing. He's just dancing with headphones on the whole time. Just skanking? That would be my, that's my role. All right, that's going to do it for this week's weekly Zeitgeist. Please like and review the show if you like the show. Means the world to Miles.
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