The Daily Zeitgeist - Weekly Zeitgeist 146 (Best of 10/5/20-10/9/20)

Episode Date: October 11, 2020

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Starting point is 00:00:00 In 1982, Atari players had one game on their minds, Sword Quest, because the company had promised $150,000 in prizes to four finalists. But the prizes disappeared, leading to one of the biggest controversies in 80s pop culture. I'm Jamie Loftus. Join me this spring for The Legend of Sword Quest. We'll follow the quest for lost treasure across four decades. Listen to The Legend of Sword Quest on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, fam, I'm Simone Boyce. I'm Danielle Robay.
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Starting point is 00:02:31 what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are uh i'll just uh be straight with you guys i was looking up stuff about the unabomber last night hey watch the documentary that what's the documentary called it's called the unabomber in his own words oh yeah yeah right that one that one it's like 2018 yeah it is super good and super interesting and uh in a way very timely about environmental issues. So look it up. Give it a look up. Not endorsing bombing.
Starting point is 00:03:14 No, but endorsing documentaries. Yes. Especially not endorsing those bombings. Because, I mean, the guy builds a shit bomb. But man, his manifesto. What a vision for the future huh check it out just going deep on like eco-fascism and it's uh corollary it's good corollary he and and he has the super villain origin story that is like mind-blowing um it's truly his story is one of the most amazing stories that's uh i i've always been obsessed with uh ted kaczynski that's why at cracked our version of like the twitter egg
Starting point is 00:03:55 where you don't have where you haven't posted a picture of yourself was the unibobber sketch for most of the history of the site i think looks like f looks like every guy exactly so iconic did they do enough like sketches like sketch comedy about the unabomber sketch like who that guy was that feels like it would have like that gave you hours of terrible sketch comedy of like a dude who was like i'm just a skate i'm just a roller skater man uh and they got me mixed up and like this is yes my little my my s curl got i don't know how this became uh the face of of terror i'm just a peace loving roller skater i don't know i just i i always get the biggest kick looking out at that sketch i mean it's very like a very blandly
Starting point is 00:04:42 handsome man rocking a hoodie well before it's time. And then like aviators and a mustache. Like those are all things that are mostly cool now. I just love police sketches in general. Yeah, they're so good. I just want that job. Yeah. Who was the person that I'm is there any background on like the person that gave the description that led to that sketch?
Starting point is 00:05:06 Like how we ended up with that sketch? Yeah, it was somebody who saw one of the bombs being deposited. It was like in the parking lot of an electronics store or something. Yeah, okay. Mostly targeted academics, but some just like people who are making technology. And so it was like, not the guy who picked up the bomb and got fucked up by it, but a different person working at that store or that office or whatever,
Starting point is 00:05:33 who saw somebody in the parking lot, like shortly beforehand. Right. Wow. Okay. I'm just saying rewatch Terminator two, you know, the way they're going back and back in time to take out the people who are going to build the destruction of our future.
Starting point is 00:05:52 I should not be that sympathetic to the Unabomber. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. You're like, yo, dude, he's like he's like a Terminator. If you really think about it, bro. All right. I'm going to stop talking about the Unabomber because I'm...
Starting point is 00:06:06 Sorry, guys. Brought that energy in. Yeah. No. Yeah, I've been Lambertamized. Is that a thing? You should maybe trademark that. You just made it up.
Starting point is 00:06:17 From total Lambertamized. Yeah, that's going to be my shock jock show. Hell yeah. Dude, just sipping Lambrusco. Devin, what is something from your search history okay i don't want to say this reveals something about my personality because that scares me but i had to use it because it was one of the first few things that came up but there's an explanation for it um and that is die of strangulation without bruising come on wow okay now's a good time to mention that the two of you do have a podcast called
Starting point is 00:06:57 true romance yes that you co-host together and it's not a true crime podcast it is not no but yes i do have an obsession with true crime and i was working on a little research project for something i'm writing and i those are those people who can't see what's happening devin did like this physical affect when she said project which almost felt like very sinister like felt like she's gonna take someone down i have a sinister demeanor but i i really i have to go on record as saying it was a research project i was just trying to see in in a fantastical world of imagination piece of fiction would it be possible for someone to die of strangulation and have no bruising so that when the police find the body, they wouldn't know that they had died that way? What was the answer?
Starting point is 00:07:51 You can't really die of strangulation without bruising. You can break someone's neck though, right? I didn't follow up with that, but probably from what I can see on the boys on amazon it seems like you can just snap it and nothing shows um so my dad inherited some land from his great-grandfather and at a family dinner with all of our relatives i made a joke about breaking a bone in my dad's neck to kill him and get the land and nobody laughed oh come on really everyone just scared at me and then i found out it was because there's a lot of argument within the family on who's gonna get this land and i just really made it awkward oh does she someone approaches you
Starting point is 00:08:39 after dinner to be like so like what approach were you thinking to yeah exactly they were like so we looked it up you can't actually strangle someone without bruising their neck. So that's what you were thinking. Terrifying if someone already was like, actually, I thought about that too. And that's just not the approach you're going to want to take. He's too healthy. He's too healthy. He's too healthy.
Starting point is 00:08:58 What is a myth? What's something people think is true you know to be false? Or vice versa. I'll be honest with you this one gives me trouble kind of gives everyone trouble yeah all right name your favorite pokemon my favorite pokemon yeah probably my favorite pokemon might be uh dragonite or uh gengar is like the ghost pokemon that's like a little mischievous little little fuck and then um but the myth i was going to say okay one of my myths is just a stupid like realization that i had that like gen z doesn't actually hate millennials like there's like this
Starting point is 00:09:42 myth that gen z hates millennials and i really just don't i think they don't even think twice about us or like about millennials at all right there's like a weird love it's it's like that i feel like gen z is the x that you think about all the time and they don't even think twice about you they don't even watch your stories you know what i mean like it's that relationship where like they just exist and we're like like i came to this realization because I watched this TikTok. Where this little boy, not even little, he's a boy, maybe a teenager. I don't know. But he's explaining Trump's trade policy in this like less than a minute TikTok.
Starting point is 00:10:21 And I understood Trump's trade policy better than I ever had coming out of that and it was just this kid playing three characters of like Vietnam China and the U.S. and they're talking to each other back and forth and not only did I feel incredibly stupid but it was amazing to see how I don't know even now with like Claudia Conway and all this stuff, like, we're obsessed with Gen Z. We're obsessed with this, like, weird generation that's just, like, spewing TikTok or spewing whatever, and we're, like, eating it up. And they don't even think twice about it. They're just existing. And I want to be that blissfully, I want to be that blissfully unaware, I guess.
Starting point is 00:11:08 Well, think about think about as a millennial, think about how often you thought about Gen X. Like, not at all, ever. Right. True. Well, in the beginning, my my relationship to Gen X was those are the people I thought were cool when I was a kid because those are like the adults in media that sort of informed what I thought being adult or being an older kid was like. You know, like I was taking cues from Gen X characters, I would say. But then at a certain point, I don't know if it's like you actually consciously think about it as like a generational relationship versus like oh i think jay-z is cool or like oh i think this person is cool or whatever and then at a certain point i think it's when you get older and they start
Starting point is 00:11:55 there's a certain point where you start seeing your generational tension or like the differences you're like i don't i wouldn't do that yeah jay or like i wouldn't do that pharrell and then i'm like okay maybe they're older um but yeah it's not i don't i definitely don't like i don't know maybe the way i think about it is different but definitely would think about it a lot when i was younger but gen x like yeah gen x is like neoliberal values i feel like and i i don't know i just think gen x was never like always was like this is stupid too much to ever be like you guys don't like us like there was never enough there's never enough like generational pride but i feel like nobody yeah the the younger generations are always smarter
Starting point is 00:12:41 better and they give less of a shit than like about you than you give about them that's always going to be the case i just want to be that i just want to be young again fuck yeah yeah and they'll be that gen x mentality they'll be smarter in a very like capable talented intelligent way but they'll also know less and you can't confuse that with being dumber it's just they just don't give a shit enough to have read all the shit that you've read but i think that inhibition that lack of like any kind of just i don't know that yeah what is a certain nihilism yeah there's something freeing about that that just like oh god well yeah but it's interesting because like we we were like the generation that got like our just heads kicked in
Starting point is 00:13:33 where we were like oh man none of this shit's possible like that we thought was uh like going to college and like you march out and here you go why we became so sensitive and there were just like they hate us like there's no reason why we should care that they hate us or not but we're just like so i feel like the millennial generation is like a very sensitive generation where it's just like any any like side eye or whatever we're just like oh like they hate me maybe maybe i'm projecting my feelings to an entire generation but well i think we have similar feelings of like insecurities though like because of that because gen the gen z they're also equally coming up in a time like they were kids during a terrible recession they're coming of they're you know becoming of age in a terrible economic and
Starting point is 00:14:25 political time so like they're kind of experiencing like similar things where they're like like you know they haven't had like those full wing spread of carefreeness of like people who came of age in the 90s or like early aughts like so i think and there's there's certain i think we are both equally awkward like socially awkward at times and equally can get super emo. Yeah, exactly. But they're just perfecting the aesthetic of it for sure. Yeah, they're just cooler, man. They're just cooler.
Starting point is 00:14:58 Yeah, as long as you can keep that in mind. The younger generation is always going to be cooler. And when the older generation, you always have like people like Madonna or like somebody like that is like this new generation is just not cool. And it's like, you're 85. No,
Starting point is 00:15:18 but they just never heard you and they don't really fuck with you. That's what it is. It's like all these people hearing dreams for the first time or like the song or like that dreams is the number one song in america right now really yeah after that after that viral uh was it a tiktok or was it just a video yeah whatever it was it's from heaven wow that. That is amazing. That guy deserves some type of commission from that. Yeah. I mean, Ocean Spray bought him a truck and a lifetime supply of sugar water. What?
Starting point is 00:15:54 Really? Yeah. But I think Fleetwood Mac owes him a lifetime supply of cocaine or whatever. Fleetwood Mac is good at giving people yeah money might be better money might be good yeah right now that's yeah come by and chop up some fat lines man whatever you want that's up to you dog face whatever you want yeah uh wow that's i didn't know it was number one that is something something. I know. I mean, it's a good song.
Starting point is 00:16:27 It's a great song. Is Dogface 420 doing for Dreams what Wayne's World did for Bohemian Rhapsody? I think so. Yeah, exactly. Wow. You know what I mean? But I think this should be happening. This will be happening more and more, right? Because we now have just the flattening of all music it's like we have access
Starting point is 00:16:47 to all of it there's so much good music and there are people and i just messaged that mick fleet fleetwood remade his video i didn't know that then he definitely owes him money yeah to come over anytime to do that is creative control or creative like uh that's ip that is ip that he has stolen god see now where are the like agencies to swoop in be like dog face 420 hey hey oh they're there they've definitely mark from uta brother love to sign you up to the agency man uh are you thinking about what you're gonna do with your likeness and your story yeah well you have all these tiktok stars that are just like being actresses now, like just like getting roles
Starting point is 00:17:26 because they're famous on TikTok, like the she's all that person. Right. But that's already happening. Rachel Lee Cook? There's a remaking. Yeah, Miles, Rachel Lee Cook. I'm not old.
Starting point is 00:17:41 Molly Ringwald? I say it so reflexively, too. Like, it's still 98. Rachel Leigh Cook? Freddie Prinze Jr.? But, I mean, that's the same, like, that's just the place that they're going to be discovered, right? Like, that's just a good place to discover young talent.
Starting point is 00:17:58 That's true. I don't feel like that's any less legitimate than, like, a casting call or something like that you know i think it's i think for me it's the same vein as like nepotism or like family like like like legacy families in the industry like it's it's always going to be easy for some people kind of thing so yeah i think it's better than those things though right i was just gonna say it's like nepotism except earned i guess like if dog face if dog face is like in the lead in a new hbo series i'll be like he did that on his own that's a good point yeah but then we find
Starting point is 00:18:32 out we find out he's a coppola when i found out that nick cage was a coppola i didn't write anything anymore isn't that frustrating what's a? What's something people think is true you know to be false or vice versa? Okay. I genuinely think that piranhas can't possibly be as dangerous as
Starting point is 00:18:58 people say they are. Yeah. They can't possibly be as dangerous because all the stuff that i thought was dangerous when i was a kid like quicksand and leeches i was gonna say it fits in with the quicksand thing where it just can't be that bad and it's one of those things where i've done zero googling but also um i'm watching that nexiumM doc on HBO, The Vow. And I don't believe that people don't know they're in a cult like immediately because that's the number one question I ask whenever I opt into anything. Even if it's like, even if it's like CBS rewards, I'm like, is this a cult?
Starting point is 00:19:38 Like, you know, if I walk into Chipotle, I'm like, is this a cult? to Chipotle, I'm like, is this a cult? And then they're in a thing, like, led by, like, a charismatic leader who is reclusive, and, like, anything that tries to get you to move to upstate New York is a fucking cult. So, like, I've been watching this series,
Starting point is 00:19:55 and I'm like, I don't believe that... I don't believe for a second that, like, ten years in, people were like, wait, this might be a cult. Right. We have to pay all of our money and provide secrets as collateral. It might be a cult right yeah we have to pay all of our money and provide secrets as collateral might be a cult like yeah i don't i don't i don't buy i don't buy that people do it no right away yeah but but they got me sleeping good again and i'm doing yoga now it's it's a good trade-off i don't know what it is it's have you seen jack have you seen the value yet i have not no yeah it's it's
Starting point is 00:20:26 it's interesting it's very i mean yes it's very long it's extremely long but it's uh i don't know i i suppose it's it's worthwhile but yeah it's about it's about a cult and um i think the piranha thing is a good is a good one too because i feel like everybody has now realized that uh quicksand doesn't exist but piranhas i think still get the respect of like they will skeletonize anything if you just like dip it in the water for five seconds but uh that was apparent that comes from a teddy roosevelt book like he before president. And even while he was president. He was a famous nature writer. And the locals. In Brazil.
Starting point is 00:21:11 Captured a bunch of piranhas. Starved them. And then dropped a dead cow in. And they skeletonized it. After a while. And because Teddy Roosevelt was a messy bitch. Who loves drama. He was like.
Starting point is 00:21:24 It was just a skeleton in mere moments. That's wild. Teddy Roosevelt is our only president with a tattoo. Is that true? Yeah, he had a chest tattoo of the Rough Riders or something like that. Like, he's such a badass. And the best thing about this pandemic, or the only good thing for me about this pandemic,
Starting point is 00:21:43 has been I've gone to a bunch of like national parks and stuff and so i'm like i'm very psyched about teddy roosevelt i'm sure i'm sure there's gonna be some um someone who's gonna reach out after hearing this podcast be like actually he uh did a bunch of war crimes or something but i'm like yeah i think that's probably true that's probably true yeah i mean you can't be an american you're not an american president you're like dude he was so chill he never did anything wrong and he uplifted every country during his time yeah his life is like a good rollicking read it's a it's fun to read about but um yeah also wildly problematic uh all right let's take a quick break, and we'll be right back.
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Starting point is 00:26:35 What's a myth? What is something people think is true that you know to be false? I know that Ben Affleck is not that smart. I don't know this personally. I don't think he's a genius director. I don't think he's very funny. I think he has frat brother energy. I know he went to Harvard.
Starting point is 00:26:57 And if you want another lowbrow answer, people say if you do shave your legs, it grows back looking darker. That's not true. It's because of shave your legs it grows back looking darker that's not true it's because of the angle the hair grows back thank you so much for letting me be on your podcast what the heck that's what it is i mean with with ben affleck ben i feel like anyone who's still on the ben affleck is a genius defense force train just needs to like get out of the train and lay in front of it uh is just simply such a such an easily disproved thing i have to say i really how is it i'm sorry
Starting point is 00:27:33 how is it easily disproved he has gone through so many things in his life oh just i'm and i and i hate to just steamroll here just allow me to finish this he's been through so many things in his life he's overcome a lot he's won an academy award about a smart guy okay and and and with all of that people thought he was done they counted him out they said this guy has too many issues then he gets a phoenix back tattoo to sum it all up his entire life experience this man he gets it he fucking he's giving you a the literal i don't know i just i think he's very if he's good enough for anna de armas i guess i'll continue to accept him into my life but as the i think i'm just being an oversensitive uh boston person because i i'm i just i'm so sick of the man.
Starting point is 00:28:25 Although I will say, if you get his coffee order at Dunkin' Donuts, it's pretty good. It's pretty good. I think he knows his coffee and cigarettes. I would very much like to change my underrated answer to the coffee at Dunkin' Donuts because
Starting point is 00:28:40 I used to, going to Dunkin' Donuts in New York is something that I do miss. And the iced coffee there, I think, is as good as any dessert at any major restaurant. It's amazing. I could have it every day. It's good. I tried the TikTok influencer coffee.
Starting point is 00:28:59 The Charlie. The Charlie. And it is so I like shit for days. It is definitely for teenagers and not for adults great uh but you know if you're a growing young person and you need a lot of dairy then try the charlie yeah if you're a young child who needs all that calcium you want a glass of milk please get the charlie take some activio, that as well. Obviously, we're pro Activia on this show.
Starting point is 00:29:28 Let's do what the fuck was that part? 7,000 president Donald Trump is apparently struggling to breathe, but not admitting that. So just like being a big tough guy while not being really able to breathe. Big tough guy while not being really able to breathe. His aides are speculating that part of the reason that he immediately removed his face mask was because he doesn't seem like he's breathing so well. And so he needed to get better oxygen coming to his face. That's the phase right now where the leaks are basically them talking shit about him's bad health. bad health they're like honestly that fool took the mask off because he was sucking mad air honestly right so whatever but can you can we do this anonymously thanks right um there is like grave concern for the ability to breathe and i was like nah dude he's fooling he's fucking around
Starting point is 00:30:21 that's all bullshit yeah um there's a a Yale psychiatrist who thinks that he should be committed. She says that sociopathy is dangerous in part because out of envy of other human beings for having human characteristics, it actively desires people to suffer and die. it actively desires people to suffer and die um and so the idea is that the thing she saw i think in this latest round of you know irrational um terrifying behavior was that he seemed to really get a kick out of putting people's lives in danger when he like took off his mask and was like you know giving recommendations that are counter the health advice of actual doctors and scientists, he seems to physically be getting a charge out of that. The man is a troll. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:18 Has anyone talked about his new accent? Am I the only one that can't get over his speaking style from that weird balcony video is it more accented like deeper New York accent it's just weird it's just like it's not it's this it's like he's feels he's playing a character it feels like he's acting or something he's he's pronounced like his pronunciation of certain words as strikes me as different he's doing an impression of the Alec Baldwin impression of himself. Which is the greatest impression.
Starting point is 00:31:52 We still agree. Alec Baldwin totally nailing it. He's like, what do I sound like? Oh, yeah. Alec Baldwin. Things we know about him is he's never gotten drunk or even had a drink i think and trump yeah really yeah he's a totaler yeah really yeah i think just like w well w was was a dry drunk is a dry drunk or uh you know recover recovered alcoholic i think trump was never
Starting point is 00:32:21 any like just it never interested him do you think that's just because he hates losing control i think he also saw his brother drink himself to death and was like i don't want to do that but then yeah the i think there's the control aspect of it and also he's it's not like a moral thing because he also has been blowing rails of Adderall for since the eighties. Yeah. I mean, so that's what I have always thought was he,
Starting point is 00:32:51 he gives off like speed freak vibes and for sure. Similar to the Nazis who were all blowing rails of speed constantly. Like that is a thing that will make you not have empathy. Yeah, exactly. You know? Hitler was also very anti-intoxicants up until the end when he started getting really into speed
Starting point is 00:33:15 and then heroin combinations. And he was a vegetarian, as people love to point out. I mean, there's a lot of like animal rights racists. Right, right. Yeah, as you talked about point out. I mean, there's a lot of animal rights racists. Right, right. Yeah, as you talked about the pipeline. Yeah, that's a big part of the pipeline. They're like, oh, we got to save the children by killing everyone else.
Starting point is 00:33:38 Yeah, so the reason I bring up his teetotaling is that I do think that for somebody like that who's in their 70s and only has really experience with intoxicants that like take them up a notch something like the side effects from these steroids might be you know hitting a little bit different might be uh causing accent changes you think he's getting loopy? Oh, yeah. He seems loopy. He seems slightly loopy to me. And guys, don't
Starting point is 00:34:09 quote me on this, but this guy seems a little loopy. I don't know if you've seen these clips. He looks like a dude who has just like maybe, you know like in Star Trek when they beam you down or beam you up somewhere from the first he looks like a dude who just got beamed down for the first time.
Starting point is 00:34:27 He's still kind of dealing with like the trip. But I was like, whoa, OK, OK, I'm here. Right. That happened. All right. You're still good, Donald. That was a little trippy. But he's still it feels like a process of finding his feet, but also trying to assert that his feet are firmly on the ground.
Starting point is 00:34:44 So it just makes for this very like off balanced performance. of finding his feet, but also trying to assert that his feet are firmly on the ground. So it just makes for this very off-balanced performance. And yeah, it's quite a performance. Yeah. We had a listener write in and say they thought we were mixing up the type of steroids he was on and that we were just confusing the cortical steroids with anabolic steroids. And it's actually like they... That's what I thought too. I was like, wait, medical steroids don't make you into a roid raging person. But he... Apparently, this specific steroid, people have been writing about it.
Starting point is 00:35:24 It's called dexamethasone. People were writing about how they were prescribed it for hearing loss. They're like, I remember feeling just like Trump for the first few days, better than I'd ever felt in my life. But there were several important differences between me and Trump. I was not in charge of the free world. several important differences between me and Trump. I was not in charge of the free world. My worst decision was eating five bowls of cereal in front of the refrigerator at 3 a.m.,
Starting point is 00:35:51 which, by the way, he did. One of the things that his doctor pointed to to be like, he's back, baby, was that he ate five plates of dinner in the hospital. They were like, he's a hungry boy. He just housed five dinners all at once why are they treating him like a fucking newborn panda why is that like the standard for how well this fool is doing oh he ate like five mexi melts and uh and and and down to two liter of mountain dew you should should have seen them. Oh, boy.
Starting point is 00:36:25 In the Mayo Clinic, just real quick before we move on from the side effects, the Mayo Clinic says, although disturbances of mood, cognition, sleep, and behavior, as well as frank delirium, they keep calling it frank delirium, which is, I guess, just straight up and down. Even the most sober-eyed person is like that is delirium uh or even psychosis are possible the most common adverse effects of short-term corticosteroid therapy are euphoria and hypomania which is not related to being a hungry hungry hippo but just it's basically another word for yeah it's hypomania and it's just another word
Starting point is 00:37:05 for being euphoric yeah so that's just all worth keeping in mind as we view the president's long tweet storms about how everything is love and how he's gonna win and how none of none of the polls are telling the truth right or just even like how on one hand right aids are like yo this dude is struggling to have breaths and then you get these other reports where they're saying like all his vitals are fantastic it's everything is normal even to have this happening like regardless of what the medications are doing like this should be just such a larger issue rather than being like yo shut the fuck up man he's burning up on re-entry but like we can't fucking say anything because if he learns that like it's it's just it's all bad it's all bad
Starting point is 00:37:59 it's all bad like it doesn't matter like when you when you're just When you're playing secrets like a poker hand with somebody, the state of their health, because it does affect how the country's run on some level. Yeah. It's super spooky, October. America is going to shit itself to death on the toilet like Elvis
Starting point is 00:38:21 because we're going to die from VIP syndrome of doctors not being able to tell famous, big, awesome person the truth about their own health. Anyways, let's take another break and we'll be right back. I've been thinking about you. I want you back in my life. I've been thinking about you. I want you back in my life. It's too late for that. I have a proposal for you. Come up here and document my project. All you need to do is record everything like you always do.
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Starting point is 00:42:36 and we're back lastly i just want to say someone sucker punched Rick Moranis in New York. You hate to see it. I don't know what happened, but Rick Moranis. Wow. Honey, I punched Rick Moranis. Honey, I punched the shit out of that dude. He was just walking down New York, minding his own, when some guy in an i love ny hoodie just
Starting point is 00:43:07 sneaks him with a quick one uh and i don't think he was concussed or anything but just a weird it's like rick moranis is like the most like non-specific looking person where i don't know if this person was having a bad day was on some shit or whatever but uh like also rick moranis was doing his most to stay out of the fucking spot i know and then he does one fucking thing he does one thing with ryan reynolds and now he's getting fucking sucker punched in the streets of new york i was gonna say he's about to retire forever he's about to retire for fucking ever do you think he's going to be like see this is why i don't do this shit man i did one thing with ryan the guy just want him back in the spotlight maybe it's something the guy hates him it's that he loves him oh shit his
Starting point is 00:43:52 agent oh my god rick moranis's agent hired the dude to punch him and that's the only twist i will accept is it someone he knows and has a beef going back to little shop of horrors what if it was frank oz and we just don't know you know we don't know who back to Little Shop of Horrors? What if it was Frank Oz and we just don't know? You know? We don't know who it is. Little Shop of Horrors. Could it be Frank Oz, sucker punch him in the middle of the street? That's canon. Oh, man. That's canon. We'll have to...
Starting point is 00:44:15 There'll be more on this story. I'm sure this will be developing as much as the president's health status, so we'll keep an eye on this one. Miles, you watched The Secret. I watched Cobra Kai. The Secret, I gotta know. at us so we'll keep oh yeah this one miles you watched the secret i watched cobra kai uh the secret i i gotta know what what is the secret just tell me the first of all shout out to zeitgang for uh helping me locate this film because i did not want to locate it and then i cast my gaze upon this nightmare uh so i don't i don't know where to start uh first off hold on is this movie like new or old it's new it's starring uh katie holmes oh okay it's gotta be new movies
Starting point is 00:45:01 dude it's got yeah exactly you know kat, Katie Holmes is only in new stuff. But this film was with Katie Holmes, Josh Lucas, and is like sort of the main dude. And then like Jerry O'Connell plays like this dude who's like longing for her. Long story short is she's playing a mother, a widow who has three kids, and they're in some hard times.
Starting point is 00:45:23 Which one's Josh Lucas? He's like one of those dudes where i could tell you you need to see his face and then you'd be like oh yeah josh lucas yeah he's like because i know a handsome dude who was in a bunch of movie forgettable movies in the so you guys don't know either that's all i was checking no but it would be one of those things when you when you see him you're like oh this dude but you're like i didn't know either. That's all I was checking. No, but it would be one of those things when you see him, you're like, oh, this dude. But you're like, I didn't know his name was Josh Lucas because he's like a stock photo of an actor. Did you see Ford v. Ferrari? Did you see Sweet Home Alabama?
Starting point is 00:45:55 No and no. And I do not recognize him. He looks like a poor man's Kevin Costner. If you heard his voice, his voice kind of puts it all together. He's a Costner, uh, Ryan. What's his name?
Starting point is 00:46:09 Uh, who's the, who's the real hunky dude. He's not hunky though. Well, you know what? That's not important. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:16 Yeah. No, Josh Lucas, Ryan, Jack O'Brien. Uh, no, he's,
Starting point is 00:46:20 he's a blend of, uh, I see a lot of Costner. I see a lot of Gosling. I think he's like a blend of Costner-Gosling. Costner. He's a Costner. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:29 Whoa. Yeah. Gosner. That's Gosner. Costner-Gosling. Wrapped up in a Gosner blanket. Yes. So this...
Starting point is 00:46:37 So anyway, she's like... None of the things are going right for this family. They're stressed. The kids don't like their house. One of the daughters is jealous that her classmate Sweet 16 right for this family like they're stressed the kids like don't like their house the one one of the daughters is like jealous that her classmate sweet 16 is gonna have a fucking have food trucks this other little girl wants a relatable shit yeah you know what i mean uh and and then one day uh in the midst of the chaos katie holmes like back like rear ends this guy in a truck and it's
Starting point is 00:47:02 josh lucas and he's like so the whole thing is based around him being this kind of like mysterious guy and his whole like outlook is super positive she's like when she rear ends him his truck's fine but hers is like the bumper is off and she's like damn it ah i can't afford the bubble one he's like hey it's all good and luckily my car is not damaged so let me help you out and he like fixes her truck and like they're hanging out at their house and she's like this man is beginning to learn a little bit more about her like life situation and like first like they're like we want to have dinner and she's like we want pizza and katie holmes like we can't afford pizza she's like that's right because we're poor and like the katie holmes like leaves the scene for
Starting point is 00:47:40 a second and then this josh lucas guy's like look just because you have no pizza doesn't mean you can't have it if you just think a lot about pizza you'll be able to get it and it has like this very like barbarically distilled down version of the law of attraction essentially like the most passive form which is like just think about pizza and it's magic and then fucking lit like clockwork what the heck's who's at the door oh hey i've got a pizza that that character literally described two pages ago word for word i have this exact order here for this family it's already been paid for don't even worry about it and they're like oh cool it came from mom's katie holmes boyfriend jerry o'connell and like slowly there's these like all these moments where they're like oh my god it's like happening so it's magic wait jerry
Starting point is 00:48:26 o'connell has money and he's not helping katie holmes but josh lucas is it's v weird like they're dating but like she's kind of like doesn't she's not really feeling jerry o'connell because he's like a herb anyway like you could tell he's like he's like one of his character pulls up in like a down vest and you're like all right get the fuck out of here like you already jerry connell has huge herb vibes i totally get what you mean oh yeah yeah he's a herbivore and the whole thing with uh it's yes so he's like a rich guy but then lucas is an alpha i get it bro but all he keeps saying is all this like lame shit he's like no don't worry about it she's like look josh lucas like i can't just keep thinking like there's a hole in my roof. I can't just think of a new roof to come by. I have these bills. It's not like a check's just going to show up for the
Starting point is 00:49:11 exact amount I need, blah, blah, blah. And then throughout the film, you realize get the roof fix a fucking check arrives for the exact thing. But then there's like, there's like a whole fucking twist, which is that Katie Holmes husband died in a plane crash. And Josh Lucas was with him on that flight. And he was the only person who survived that crash, but also took a patent that Katie Holmes' dead husband had invented and improved it and started becoming wealthy. And the reason he even found Katie Holmes was to tell her that he had put the patent in her name and she can expect checks to come in. But because he was kind of vibing with her,mes was to tell her that he had put the patent in her name and she can expect
Starting point is 00:49:45 checks to come in but because he was like kind of vibing with her he didn't tell her so it became like that typical rom-com thing where one character has been deceiving the other and then when it matters they're like you deceived me this whole time i don't understand and they're like but it was for a good reason i was on the plane that your husband died in and i stole his patent and then i it's like it gets so convoluted and then seems like there actually is no good reason for the lie seems like she would have been really happy to hear all of that from just right at the beginning just straight up yeah without him trying to be like like quirky hippie guy or like saved her a lot of worrying and then
Starting point is 00:50:20 he didn't even have to lie about the secret but But the secret is not... I have not read The Secret. I haven't even seen it. I'm so mad. I just live it. Like the president, I don't read the books. I just live the books. And so I know the philosophy of The Secret. It's not that if you imagine a pizza in your brain,
Starting point is 00:50:40 someone's going to deliver a pizza, is it? No. No, but that's... So there are many ways like people preach the law of attraction like i think the secret is like the most i think broad version and is basically gets a lot of people hooked because they're trying to sell it to you as magic right like oh the problem is uh your inability to like communicate your needs to other people it's that you just don't think about shit enough. It's like, no, that's like a really weird way to describe, like, that's not self-help. Um, cause
Starting point is 00:51:10 I do like on a certain level, I do believe that there is a power to how you look at your own life. Not necessarily that, like, if I think about a PS five, someone's going to knock on my door and just drop one off. But I do believe in like, you know, that perception is reality, right? And if you're in a negative head space and you're only looking at negative, like only thinking about what's wrong in your life, then your confirmation bias is only going to look for negative shit. And you'd be like, of course this thing went wrong. Of course this happened. Of course. And you get so much momentum going that yes, that it feels like that's how your world is. But at the same time, I think like just I think an easier way to look at the secret is like you can also just sort of like try and look for the positive things that are happening to you and just be more aware of that rather than in a in a mode where like everything sucks. Of course it sucks.
Starting point is 00:52:00 Of course that sucks to sort of like, yeah, some things suck, but some things are good. Oh, hey, that happened. That was cool oh that happened that was cool and then from there you could very like i think it's really more about having more of a positive outlook and having positive self-talk more than like the magic of rear-ending some dude in a fucking ford f-150 who has a magical patent that'll get your daughter a pony and you a Range Rover. Yeah. That's interesting. So that sounds not worth watching? It's, I don't know. Is it like bad good where you're like,
Starting point is 00:52:35 oh my God, I have to watch this. This is terrible. I think, look, if you're feeling really shitty and you watch this, you'll probably feel good because it almost it feels like fantasy you're like everything that's been going wrong for this person has been till one day everything that could go right does start going right and sure like just the the act of watching the pendulum swing the other way may be like fine or whatever but i mean it's not like
Starting point is 00:53:02 a good it's not even like a good romance film or anything like that plus you got to pay for it and put money into these people's pockets so like no it's a hard pass uh you don't you don't you don't need to you don't need to waste your time on it i think me telling you right now is fine it reminds me of pay it forward wasn't that like one of those like american self-help philosophy books that got adapted into a movie that was just basically like yeah dramatizing a very simplistic philosophy but like that didn't quite work out unless you're a fan of cinema in which case uh pay it forward is one of the finest films of of our time and the thing the film does though is like they make josh lucas the way he Be like, man, if I was like that, I guess I would have everything because he's like so weird and cryptic, like where he's checking out of a hotel and the the concierge, the woman at the concierge. She's like studying for her LSATs.
Starting point is 00:53:57 And he's like when he's checking out, he's like, hey, good luck on your LSATs. He's like, oh, I don't know. It's just so hard. It's just so overwhelming. I just think maybe I won't do well. And he's like, hey, hey, it's just so hard it's just so overwhelming i i just think maybe i won't do well and he's like hey hey hey can you see yourself being a lawyer take a second right now can you see yourself being a lawyer is that real and she's like yeah i can see it it's it's so real to me and he's like then so can i and he like walks off and she's like wow i don't know what the fuck that meant my face was smiling
Starting point is 00:54:25 wow i wanna fuck that man yeah so in the end i would say like yo like a cheap version is like just a less uh uh spooky way to do the secret try and just you know change your negative self talk to more positive things try and look for the positive in your life i think that's a better message than like than saying like yo your life's bad and the reason is you're not wishing enough. Right. Which is what I think people will take this to be. No, actually, I think the lesson is your life isn't great because your husband didn't die in a plane crash. Next to Josh Lucas and leave him a patent that Josh Lucas could improve and then make a lot of money off of
Starting point is 00:55:05 and then pay you back for the money you didn't have. Talk about a relatable circumstance. We've all been there. Come on. Everyone has this story in their life. We're honest. You'll love it. It's jarring in the sense that that plot line
Starting point is 00:55:20 comes in way too late in the film and you're like, what is this now? I just thought it was about a dude coming to this small town and changing people's lives and now he might be like then at a certain point like did he kill the hut wait what the fuck that would have been a way better movie i thought it was gonna be a horror when you were setting it up i was like oh shit and like is he the devil and then it's way lamer than that. I wish she was like, you've been thinking about him and I'm here to re and reunite y'all. The secret. We should write the secret as a horror.
Starting point is 00:55:52 I mean, yeah, I'm sure that's, that's out there, right? That's definitely a goosebumps book. It reminds me. Oh,
Starting point is 00:55:57 that already was be careful what you wish for. It was a good, there you go. All right. That's going to do it for this week's weekly zeitgeist please like and review the show if you like the show
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