The Daily Zeitgeist - Weekly Zeitgeist 152 (Best of 11/16/20-11/20/20)

Episode Date: November 22, 2020

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Kay hasn't heard from her sister in seven years. I have a proposal for you. Come up here and document my project. All you need to do is record everything like you always do. What was that? That was live audio of a woman's nightmare. Can Kay trust her sister or is history repeating itself? There's nothing dangerous about what you're doing.
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Starting point is 00:02:43 by the hilarious, the talented, Yedoye Travis! Hey, what's going on? It's me, Yedoye, a.k.a. young dude who watches too much anime, a.k.a. old dude who watches too much anime, depending on who you talk to. What's up, y'all? Depending on who you talk to, right. How you doing?
Starting point is 00:02:59 Oh, man. Not much, you know. Just, how's New York? What's new over there? Oh, it's all right. I just got back. From? I've been at my apartment mostly.
Starting point is 00:03:11 Okay. What do you mean? You just got back from? I was in. From New York? You mean the streets of New York? Yeah, I was on the streets of New York. Just got back to my apartment.
Starting point is 00:03:19 Just got back home. No, I was in Butte, Montana of all places. Hmm? Oh, okay. What were you doing in Montana, I was in Butte, Montana, of all places. Hmm? Yeah. What were you doing in Montana? I was in Montana. Biker rally? Yeah, I was going to just hanging out with some of my biker friends.
Starting point is 00:03:37 It was kind of a lot of us just kind of packed into a parking lot. Just shaking hands, hugging, kissing hugging kissing you know typical biker um yeah no i i was uh i was i was shooting a movie oh shit oh cool yeah what was that like on set because i know i mean i having friends and family in production it's it seems like a lot more going a lot more work especially for crew yeah it's um i've been i've been tested four times in the past week i think wow uh just make sure i'm not sick and there was a period where i was not allowed to leave my room and uh and also the hotel might have been haunted so that i think that was unrelated to i think that would have been the case that would have been the case regardless of uh covid but you know it was just i mean it's basically
Starting point is 00:04:29 the premise of the shining it's just that instead of a blizzard keeping you uh inside the hotel it is the coronavirus pandemic but you still can't go outside pandemic and also a lot of racist people hold on jack we got. We got a script going there. Put that one on the side. Put a pin in that one. Were you able to feel the local racism in Butte? It was weird because I feel like because of COVID, Asian people are getting it harder than black people right now. And so there was an Asian dude on cast who definitely felt it.
Starting point is 00:05:02 I felt like people were being too nice to me. It's weird how that pendulum swings yeah like two people asked me for money on the street and then i went back and talked to the rest of the cast i was like people asking you for money and all of them were like no nobody's asked any of us i was like oh it's like this weird thing where they feel like they have to ask me because they're like oh he's not like guaranteed to be like oh it's like this weird thing where they feel like they have to ask me because they're like oh dude he's not like guaranteed to be poor anymore it's not that it's not like that oh interesting black people have money black people you're a rich person in my mind i'm not racist yeah also one of them was australian which was very weird to me so they were begging on the
Starting point is 00:05:42 street and they were australians a whole a whole Australian man with blonde dreadlocks. I was just going to ask if he had dreadlocks. Yes, he absolutely did. He was exactly the type of person you think he was. And it just made me feel sad. I was like, you gave up health insurance to live in a mining town? Yeah, in a place where your dreads aren't going to fly all the time. You might be safer in Australia with your dreads aren't gonna fly all the time you know like you might be safer
Starting point is 00:06:05 in australia with those dreads yeah it's got to be a rough climate to be uh unhoused in yeah yeah it's probably pretty bad yeah but i don't i don't know it was just like it was just a very it was a very weird place there was also there was also one bar that everybody told me very specifically not to go into because nobody was wearing a mask and i walked outside one day and there was just a one dude standing outside in this haunted ass town two teeth in his mouth and he looked at me and i looked back at him and he goes, hey, man, you OK? I was like, no. And then he points to the bar that everybody told me to not go into. And he just goes, you ever been in here before?
Starting point is 00:06:57 And I was like, no. And I don't plan to. And I kept moving. Yeah. All right. Think about it. All right, sir. I will. I'll think about brushing my teeth as soon as I get moving. Yeah. All right, think about it. I'm just saying. I will. I'll think about brushing my teeth as soon as I get back.
Starting point is 00:07:10 Wow. Interesting. Yeah, it's a weird place. Yeah. That's about what I would have expected. How's the weather in New York? Are you guys still in shorts? Because we had people dunking on us from Brooklyn being like,
Starting point is 00:07:23 oh, man, it's fantastic. Ball me. You know what? It's not bad. We're still in shorts because we have people dunking on us from Brooklyn being like, oh, man, it's fantastic. Ball me. You know what? It's not bad. Especially coming from 19-degree weather is a good time. Oh, yeah. You must be like you're in a tank top now. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:37 Reflective panel in a sun chair. Oh, yeah. I'm out shirt off, sitting on the roof, just tanning, at like as a bit right right yeah like it's not it's not doing anything it's just yeah just to fuck with the google earth photographer yeah yeah joelle what is something from your search history uh that's revealing about who you are from your search history uh that's revealing about who you are this is so embarrassing i was talking to uh your the lovely daniel before we got on uh i have been researching a lot of pokemon you know uh your combinations how do they work this is my stress reliever now uh i got a nintendo for myself my brother bought pokemon and immediately like, oh, this is what I'm going to do for my stress relief.
Starting point is 00:08:26 There's no geopolitical analytics in here. I don't have to worry about race relations in this app. No one's making podcasts in here. It's just you just catch a Pokemon and you fight another Pokemon and then you buy a cool outfit. And it's like the best fake retail therapy because i can't afford to do actual retail therapy anymore uh you know pokemon that's what's happening oh my god that's incredible we're surviving yay so wait what are some what are some particularly what are what are the top pokemon
Starting point is 00:09:01 i'm like let's power rank them. I'm glad you asked the first follow-up question because I was gonna equally be like, so, I mean. Tell us about these Pokemon. Tell us more. Listen, for the children out there slash older adults
Starting point is 00:09:22 who never got out of their child favorites, I'm really boosting up my Machamp he's a fighter he's uh he's got big boxing gloves he's ready to go a slurpuff which looks like whipped cream is really i like it because depending on what kind of fruit you give it it turns into different pokemon so you get a variety of the same thing um And then I can't remember the name of my elephant, but I got it and it's cool and I love it. Nice. And this is on Switch? Yes.
Starting point is 00:09:52 Which, again, is just amazing stress relief. It's really great when it's late and you're falling asleep. You just pop it in and you get to bike all over little countrysides that look like London. It's wonderful. That's heaven i read recently about there was like a big i well and by big i'm like youtubers i watched discussed it at length uh but there was like a big pokemon scandal where bear with me i guess
Starting point is 00:10:22 logan performance enhancing drugs. Oh boy. Logan Paul, he's not the villain of the story, shockingly. Logan Paul has a Pokemon dealer, which is a job you can have. And this Pokemon dealer dealt, like arranged this big Pokemon deal. And then these guys paid $200,000 for a set of Pokemon cards. And then it turned out the Pokemon cards were fake. And now there's all this. It was a Pokemon fraud scandal.
Starting point is 00:10:51 And I really loved watching it unfold because it was a bunch of doofuses with too much money being like, well, the cards are about to get here. And they were like live streaming it. They're like the most expensive Pokemon deal ever. And they opened the cards and they're like, well, these are clearly fraudulent. They're like the most expensive pokemon deal ever and they open the cards and they're like well these are clearly fraudulent they're like made of just like regular paper
Starting point is 00:11:12 stock that you would get staples yeah it was just a pile of printer paper yeah i just like to say that the game is 30 right now it's on sale you don't have to pay 200 000 for anything there are no in-app purchases to the best of my knowledge just go ahead and save your money you know invest that in something give it to a child in need please don't spend that kind of money on paper it doesn't make sense it simply doesn't don't do anything that logan paul has already done that i thought that's been a rule of thumb for years. Generally, good idea. A perfect guideline. I do wonder, for sports cards and Pokemon cards and physical things like that, I do feel like we're reaching a point where we can make any video,
Starting point is 00:11:58 make people seem like they're saying things that they haven't said like right perfect precision and like i you know sneakers like that one of the ways that people are getting uh quote counterfeit sneakers is like the people who make those in other countries are just like here i'm going to make a couple more and they won't go through nike but you will get the exact same thing and those are like counterfeit but it's like what i i don't know i feel like the philosophical question of like what counterfeit is is going to arise uh more and more yeah especially with regard to pokemon cards that seems like a pretty easy one to to knock knock off, but maybe, maybe I'm missing
Starting point is 00:12:45 something. I understand the collectible. You're definitely not missing anything. The collectible aspect of it is what's keeping people going. And like, it's only, it's the belief that's like keeping people connected, right? Like, no, mine is real. Like, so it depends on how you value, you know, I guess the subject of the thing. like with with baseball cards was like oh that was like a moment in history like they printed it while this guy was in run you know and now that's right he retired so there are no new base so if you really like that player then you have to have that card that i i totally i somewhat understand that i don't quite understand like to your point like especially the use of a pokemon card is like in a game.
Starting point is 00:13:26 So as long as you have the correct information, you can play the game. So it's bizarre. But, you know, I also know people spend like a ton of money on like rare Monopoly sets. And I don't know. I think when you have too much money, you're just looking for something to brag about. And you're like, I bought this like incredible rare thing. And now you have to value me and my collection as well it's a weird cyclical thing like we were talking before we started recording
Starting point is 00:13:51 about the donkey's market the dunkin donuts shop that they just opened that has oh yeah uh tandem bicycles it has a dunkin donuts bathrobe like mean, that's a practical purchase. And it's immediately sold out. Like everybody just bought all of the Dunkin Donuts bathrobes. But... That's more, I mean, I... Couldn't you just do... Not to jump to their defense.
Starting point is 00:14:17 Yeah. As I always will for Dunkin Donuts. I feel like their marketing, it's going to sound like I'm being paid to say this. I'm not. I think their marketing has gotten so weird and savvy recently where they're like, okay, we're an old ass donut brand that is mostly known for really mean moms going to their alarm.
Starting point is 00:14:40 That is their consumer base. But then they're definitely kind of like they're they're definitely trying to hit the teen market because they gave charlie d'amelio her own duncan beverage and as a regular duncan uh customer i'm a very mean mom uh but like there's now teenagers at duncan donuts all the time it's like you can tell charlie d'amelio brought her fucking tiktok base to dunkin donuts and now they're releasing merch like it's sneaker drops like it's just they're trying i they're they're trying some stuff out it seems to be working also the the charlie d'amelio drink has so much dairy in it that i like was shitting for days just for young people
Starting point is 00:15:22 that I was shitting for days. It's for young people. It's for the youngs. It's for teenagers only. It's not for adults. That's so interesting that Dunkin' Donuts, it seems almost random that Dunkin' Donuts is the brand that got this culture. McDonald's tried really hard with their Travis Scott meal
Starting point is 00:15:41 and J Blabbing meal. It did. No, it definitely did. They sold out in a couple of hours. The children loved it. And I live across the street from a McDonald's. There was a line around the block for probably a solid week to get into McDonald's to get the stupid meal,
Starting point is 00:16:00 which is already on the menu. Yes! I'm so confused. Wait, that worked? Is it for the box? It did. It definitely worked. How would you sell out of the meal?
Starting point is 00:16:11 Is there a meal? Is there a box that comes with it? Okay, so the Travis thing came in two parts, right? So first there was online merch, right? So they had the jackets and stuff. So all of that stuff sold out. But then McDonald's had a shortage of like the burger. I think it was some of the condiments that go on his specific burger.
Starting point is 00:16:29 They were like running out. They couldn't keep it in stock because so many people had come through to purchase this burger. I didn't get the meal, but I do think it came in its own like Cactus Jack style box. But don't keep that. It had food in it. Gross. Right. Like your house is just going to smell like a cheeseburger for the rest of your life.
Starting point is 00:16:48 This is mint. Mint conditioned Travis Scott meal, guys. You're like. Untouched by human hands. And it smells like shit. My favorite product they had was a Cactus Jack McDonald's lunch tray. So you know the brown trays that you get at McDonald's? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:02 It's not as Cactus Jack. You can buy it for like 15 bucks. And I was like, this is tempting, but's. Yeah. It's not just checking a buyer for like 15 bucks. And I was like, this is tempting, but no. Right. Also steal it for no bucks because those things are the easiest things to steal. These kinds of grifts are not going to work forever, but
Starting point is 00:17:15 they're definitely working right now. You have nothing to look forward to. I think honestly, that was like half of the sell. It was like something new. Yeah. I mean, I have to have it. It's just new. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:29 It's just interesting that we are. It's almost like we're going in two opposite or seemingly contradictory directions, whereas one like consumerism or like materialism is breaking down like you can replicate anything easily. And then on the other hand, we're like going super hard on like okay there are only five mcdonald's uh bathrobes that we all need to get because it has the special tag in it and it's uh it's almost like we're having a end of materialism like panic moment where we have to like really dig in our heels and be like, this matters. As somebody who just bought two suits from Beyonce, yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:11 I was like, listen, where will I wear these suits? I'm not going anywhere, literally anywhere, not to dinner, not to a movie, but I have these suits. I'll come clean. I bought the Duncan duvet. Awesome. It'll be on my bed come Christmas. All right, guys, let's take a quick break,
Starting point is 00:18:34 and we'll come back and talk the dreaded news. In 1982, Atari players had one thing on their minds, Sword Quest. This wasn't just a new game. Atari promised 150 grand in prizes to four finalists. But the prizes disappeared. And what started as a video game promotion became one of the most controversial moments in 80s pop culture. I just don't believe they exist. My reaction, shock and awe.
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Starting point is 00:20:22 and violent summer. This is Rip Current, available now with new episodes every Thursday. Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you up your day. Every weekday, we bring you conversations with the culture makers who inspire us. Like our recent episode with Grammy award-winning rapper Eve on her new memoir and the moments that made her. It became a theme in my life, the underdog syndrome of being questioned, of the, would they say this to a man? No,
Starting point is 00:21:05 they would not like, why that was one of those moments where you're just like, Oh wow. It was a bit shocking, but it didn't take any steam away or anything like that. If anything, it was more of the, okay,
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Starting point is 00:22:15 They're just dreams. Dream Sequence is a new horror thriller from Blumhouse Television, iHeartRadio, and Realm. Listen to Dream Sequence on the iHeartRadio app, Apple to dream sequence on the iHeartRadio app apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts and we're back all right let's talk about what this lockdown is doing to our brains uh miles you brought a article from the bbc about a kind about a study or I don't know. Were they using science or speculation? Well, they are using science and then just what neuroscientists just know to be true about how our brains work. And a lot of people, like experts themselves experiencing it too. I've noticed this in my older family.
Starting point is 00:23:03 Yeah, like my grandfather grandfather he's 93 and he he used to go to like his church social group and do shit like that but it's all old people that he hangs out with so that's gone now and he's like less talkative i mean it's very pronounced they say and like especially like convalescent homes and uh like you know old folks homes for lack of a better term and so they're saying you know the old folks homes, uh, for lack of a better term. And so they're saying, you know, the lack of socializing and isolation is definitely a contributing factor to how like our memories are even being formed and stored. So, you know, the isolation part, I think most people can figure out because yeah, like we're just, we've completely changed the rhythm of our
Starting point is 00:23:41 days, but there, you know, a lot of things is like it's these smaller conversations where if we don't feel you know like any kind of talk you have by the refrigerator a water cooler by the elevator walking in somewhere walking out somewhere like we're always just like talking like we always just have something to tell like talk about we can talk about what we did last night what we're doing this weekend what even some dumb shit you talked about your friend with on the phone and that repetition of stories apparently they're saying that helps to actually keep our memories sort of consolidated and organized within our minds so like we they call them episodic memories so if we don't if we're missing on that socializing aspect it's it those things don't crystallize in the same way they do and like oh
Starting point is 00:24:24 i'm i'm telling my weekend story three times today you know like you it's it those things don't crystallize in the same way they do. And like, oh, I'm I'm telling my weekend story three times today, you know, like you it's like, you know, that that momentum helps build our memories. And then when we do get the chance to chat, they're saying like, because we are isolated and we aren't having we're not doing as much as we normally do. We also have fewer stories to tell when we see each other. Like it's kind of like we're almost like, yeah, how's it been around? Like it's kind of like we're almost like yeah how's it been like i don't like everyone's kind of in the same thing where we we look at the same we sit in the same place look at the same screen do the same thing and they're because of like this sort of cycle of very little change it slowly works its way into you know affecting our ability to form
Starting point is 00:25:02 and recall memories because even like it's something as simple as people feel like holy shit like normally i can remember my fucking teachers from kindergarten on i can tell you every single fucking teacher i had and it's like the other day it took me 15 minutes to remember who this teacher was or whatever and that's all part of just kind of like we're not fully using all of those faculties as much as we can be as a result of this lockdown yeah i was i was saying uh i think early on like i had the same feeling as when i would always park in the same parking garage and like after it was like six months of parking in the same parking garage because like all those memories just like kind of collapsed on each other i could never remember where the fuck my car was because it was just all like one endless expanse of memories of that parking garage i feel like same deal with now just like being at home constantly working recording from home
Starting point is 00:25:59 you just don't have the those events that get your heart rate up a little bit where you like you know go somewhere drive to work get mad at the person who cut you off right go to work tell people about the person who cut you off you know just dumb shit that we take for granted that is like what you know our our brain is meant to have that social interaction. I'm loving the hell out of not having to, because I have social anxiety, not having to be anxious around people all the time, but I don't think overall it's good for my health and for my mental health.
Starting point is 00:26:36 Yeah, that anxiety is good long-term. I feel like this past week has been the first, maybe one of two times I've left New York, and definitely the only time I've left my home for an extended period i feel like it's the most and granted it was last week but i feel like it's just the most vivid string of memories that i've had yeah six months probably yeah because that's what it is when we're just isolated and we've especially for people who work from home. You just we don't have these cues that we normally have, like even commuting.
Starting point is 00:27:09 Right. Like you use your hippocampus to like navigate the earth to get home to your destination. And when you don't do that, that we're starting to like we're using that less. And then also like everyone's on the same. We sit in the same chair looking at the same zoom meetings talking to the same people like that also blends around and like this neuroscientist saying it's like it's like playing it's like you need black keys on a piano or else you don't know where the fuck you're at if it's all white keys yeah and that's what happens with our our memories because we're not really punctuating things properly like yeah they're there but our way
Starting point is 00:27:43 to differentiate is completely lost because we don't navigate like the roads like we used to if we do things it might be the same thing so a way to get around that is something like as simple as like if you walk your dogs or you go on walks go a completely fucking different route because most of the time we'll walk the same fucking route just to be like oh it's time to do my walk or i'm gonna go here do just do shit like that because the more you're putting yourself in different different space you're now looking at new shit you might hear different shit it's just like these subtle changes too that can help go a long way and even if you're stuck at home and you really can't go outside
Starting point is 00:28:18 like they say even just try something completely different like if you've never fucked with puzzles like just fucking like give yourself something to try to because the more we can break up the monotony of it that's just going to help sort of give our you know lockdown lifestyles a little more texture that we can you know still remember things because if you said something to me about may the month of may i couldn't tell you a fucking thing no like i don't because we used to be like oh yeah because that was two months before the trip that i normally go on which is in june but because we don't have any of that it's really important that we we are giving ourselves like enough things to stimulate our minds even though we're comfortable that but we still need that flexibility with our brains
Starting point is 00:29:00 yeah i started uh i started skateboarding at 29 and the last thing i remember before that is getting diarrhea in ghana it's too much palm oil yeah no i i i ate uh beach meat i eat meat on the beach i'd ate beach meat in ghana too i had goat on a skewer oh yeah you had suya yeah yeah it was pretty good that's what i had that's what i had yeah and i skewer oh yeah you had suya yeah yeah it was pretty good that's what i had that's what i had yeah and i know people are like you want to do that i'm like i don't know they're eating it i'm good yeah you get sick no the thing that i got when i was in ghana was just the amount of palm oil like i wasn't used to palm oil oh yeah being in a lot of food so that was i think that was the one thing i had to get used to is the amount of palm oil that's used in cooking and stuff. Yeah, that's been my whole life.
Starting point is 00:29:46 I think I just like, I hadn't been to Africa since I was 16. I went to Nigeria and I think my body just lost all the enzymes or whatever, or maybe it was just cooked. I don't know. Yeah, either way. Right. It's always funny telling people I got a stomach virus and then I say it was in Ghana and they get so much more concerned. Like, oh God, did you have visions?
Starting point is 00:30:08 Oh my God. Did you like see God? Yeah, no. Don't our cells in our body completely swap out within a period of six years? Seven. Seven. That's wild.
Starting point is 00:30:24 We're just completely completely new organisms. Seven years on. Seven to 10 years. Damn. Okay. Yeah. I wish I knew when that was happening so I could be a little more on top of it. You're like, yo, man, I'm about to get my whole new cell shit up in about two months, bro.
Starting point is 00:30:38 Let's talk. You know when it's all reset. You're just like, yeah. You're like, trust me, I will get to this project. I just need my shit to reset while my cells need to cycle out. You don't even know. That'll definitely be a spa treatment in the future where you go and they just accelerate it
Starting point is 00:30:53 so get all your cells switched out. Yeah. Yeah. Let me go re-up right quick. Oh, shit. I like broccoli now. That's wild. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:03 Because I feel like that's the same that's the same time period they say your your sense of taste like evolves over it's like every seven to ten years you oh right you start liking different foods by 20 i liked mushrooms finally yeah i hated mushrooms so i was 20 and that makes sense around if we're going by sevens and tens yeah damn that's wild i started doing mushrooms when i was like 15. oh no psilocybin i was fucking oh before that oh yeah but put that shit on a pizza um let's talk about ambient tv there's a yes there's a piece that i really enjoyed in the new yorker uh they've written you up before, Jamie. You might have heard of them, The New Yorker. They were writing about Emily in Paris
Starting point is 00:31:50 and kind of how their description of Emily in Paris was very dystopian. But they overall were saying that it reminds them of the rise of ambient music, like the Brian Eno thing where he made music that he considered as ignorable as it is interesting um and like that these tv shows are basically designed to be background music like nothing the plot is incredibly thin on purpose like so that you can miss half of it and still just kind of have a sense of what's going on i've always used sports this way like as a thing that you can just have on in the background and not really pay any attention
Starting point is 00:32:39 to um and evidence of that is like i can have sports on and my kids don't give a shit about it because like, won't suck them into a TV coma. Uh, like literally everything else is because it's bad television. Um, but they're making the point that this whole movement, like they, they were talking about other Netflix reality shows that, um, like the taco Chronicles Dream Home Makeover. They really go in on. I haven't seen that, but it's apparently very bland. I yeah, I don't.
Starting point is 00:33:16 Joelle, did you watch any of Emily in Paris? I got I watched Emily in Paris. Let me talk about it. OK, I love and we call it ambient television. My crew calls it depression TV, which is like, I can't afford to get emotionally invested in anything right now.
Starting point is 00:33:32 Like the world is already too much, right? But I need something on the TV because otherwise I'm just alone with my thoughts and I don't want that either. That's not a good recipe for me to get through this evening. So Emily in Paris, no, definitely not a great show. I don't know what's happening with not a good recipe for me to get through this evening so emily in paris no definitely not a great show i don't know what's happening with any of the fashion in there
Starting point is 00:33:49 it's a hot mess i don't care 2006 you're like where what year is this who did this and why i don't know i don't care about any of the characters i was surprised anyone could like develop a heated emotional reaction to it there was a lot of discourse and they're like emily's so rude for going to paris and shoving her american ways in their face i'm like that's literally the plot of the show so don't like that you should have tuned out after episode three but it was perfect for me because i was just like okay it's just there and i can be on my phone scrolling twitter which is what i really want to be doing anyway. But it's not silent. And it's great. I really feel like we perfected this TV in the 90s. Friends, peak. Friends is peak depression TV. It's peak ambient television. Nobody changes. Nobody grows. Nothing
Starting point is 00:34:33 changes about the status of anyone's relationship, whether they're together or not. It doesn't matter. It's just a bland blank slate. And I think that there's really truly value in this kind of television. What bothers me is when we try to either escalate it or de-escalate we try to escalate it into something more than it is which is really what i think what happened with emily in paris i think we were bored and we're like i can rag on this show wonderful uh but it's a vital aspect to my life i really enjoy um i think great british bake-off maybe has a little more emotional stakes in it for some people but mostly it's just nice people baking awesome they're really sorry when they have to let someone go excellent anything that's not
Starting point is 00:35:10 going to bring me up too high or down too low that's exactly what we're looking for it's literally yeah i feel like depression tv it was nice of them to call it ambient truly but uh but it is like it feels like i mean even like great Depression media where you're like, this is about nothing. Big rock candy mountain. It's pleasant. You don't feel like you're going to turn around and something horrible is going to be happening. Like if you were watching, for example, the news. Like it's just, it's just my, I really hope that I had like a very abrupt fantasy when I saw this piece about ambient TV.
Starting point is 00:35:49 And it's that the creator of Emily in Paris releases a scathing response being like, how dare you say Emily in Paris was about nothing. In many ways, it was about everything. They just had no idea it was a really bad TV show. This is how they found out that it was only number two because everyone was so sad. Oh my God. This is how I feel about it.
Starting point is 00:36:16 Netflix has really perfected the algorithm of making a show that you don't necessarily have to be invested in. I love the way they've like, John, like their new show, Jingle Jangle. It's like, if you were sort of into high school musical, but you want some black representation in your Christmas shows and you know, you like a little bit of comedy,
Starting point is 00:36:36 but you're not going to laugh too hard because that's not what we're doing here. It's perfect. It's so straight down the middle. You can watch it with your conservative family and no one's going to fight. Listen, it's genius straight down the middle you can watch it with your conservative family and no one's gonna fight listen it's genius it's necessary and then you know every once in a while you get a queen's gambit and you're like cool great something i can actually sink my teeth into when i'm in the
Starting point is 00:36:56 mood for it but i yeah we need like 700 hours of ambient television to get through whatever the next like eight months is going to be before we can re-emerge into society i enjoyed yeah julia and the phantoms was fun that was like i feel like a cute underrated show that was like very high school musical e but up like it's it's just cute cute shit i like cute shit that isn't gonna remind me of my mortality exactly exactly yeah that's what's on the menu yeah the point that they like their description of ambient tv is kind of that it it basically crowds out the noise in your mind and just like makes everything feel like like go down smooth basically it like smooths out like where whereas when we first had like streaming TV and you could like choose a show to watch and it would be like a show that like was engrossing and that was
Starting point is 00:37:50 what we valued. Now it's more just like, here is a time portal to, uh, an hour from now in the future, you just put on your, like open up Netflix and put the show on and you'll be in the future which is kind of a dark way to think about human existence at this point i also have found comfort in like the
Starting point is 00:38:14 all these i feel like i talk about them all the time now but like these youtube channels that are like by funny people who are based they're talking about nothing they're talking about like pokemon card scandals for 45 minutes and you're just like oh this is just engrossing enough i don't really need to listen but like good good for them for for caring like i don't know it's just it's nice it feels not horrible that's what i mean when i say nice yeah they they highlight uh tiktok as the ultimate in ambient tv uh because it just is a stream of kind of passive you know unremarkable videos that just go down easy it absolutely depends on what videos you're enjoying on tiktok right i was like
Starting point is 00:39:03 that could go a lot away if your stream is just those like five dance move dance things and sure sure ambient and endless but they're some people are being creative and some people are being very weird and some people are being you know weirdly political uh yeah i i wouldn't say i wouldn't say go to tiktok looking for your ambient television fix um but i do think that it's not a streaming issue either I wouldn't say go to TikTok looking for your ambient television fix. But I do think that it's not a streaming issue either. I wouldn't blame this on like, oh, this is what streaming has come down to now. I think it's absolutely just a sign of the times and the fact that people cannot engage.
Starting point is 00:39:40 Like I started watching Halt and Catch Fire, which is stunning. It's such good television. I got through season one and then I'm like, oh, man, they're really dealing with some some real life issues here i'm about to put this on the back burner and turn around to it later like they're like oh financial crisis coming up i was like no no back out of it um so yeah i i think if we were watching on network and to be fair let's look at what networks are coming out with right now in the middle of the pandemic we've got two versions of the mass singer one that's just lip syncers where they're trying to see if you're the actual person singing or not like this is the content we need to get through and i really think tv is doing a good job for us even if it's not intellectually stimulating uh there's too much to do we don't need to be any further intellectually
Starting point is 00:40:18 stimulated at this point did we talk about did we ever talk about uh micourke on The Masked Singer? We have a big Masked Singer blind spot on this show. I am here to say, I'm behind on Masked Singer. I'm not going to say I stopped watching this season, but I had to stop watching after I got to the Mickey Rourke episode because it was so good that I'm like, nothing is going to top this for me for months. So what happened was this. It's still so funny. Okay, so it's like the first round of Masked Singer, which takes like four weeks.
Starting point is 00:40:59 But they bring out a celebrity who's dressed like a big purple gremlin. And he sings. Oh, what did he sing? Whatever he sang, he didn't really know the words. And it wasn't good. And the whole panel couldn't guess who it was. Nick Cannon gets up on stage to have people guess. And then whoever's inside the gremlin is like, more no more i'm like he quits the masked singer after his first performance he knows he's gonna lose he rips off the gremlin's head it seems
Starting point is 00:41:37 like it wasn't i mean it might have been pre-planned but nick can't if so best acting performance of nick cannon's life because he was like wait you can't can't take, you can't quit. He unmasked himself. It was Mickey Rourke. Everyone lost their shit. And he was like, yeah, they asked me to be on. And I watched two or three episodes. And I said, why not? But this costume is really heavy. And I want to go home. And he just left. Mickey Rourke is all of us. Yes. I did not know how it went down. I just saw the reveal on Twitter the same night, right?
Starting point is 00:42:13 So I just see Mickey Rourke's tiny head. His head's not really tiny, but in a giant suit, it looks small. And he's covered in like purple fuzz and he's like a little sweaty. And I'm like, how did they mickey rourke to come on this show and that to me was the funny part but knowing that he was just like oh no i have to bow out today it's so much sweeter it's it's everything i think everybody wishes they could do just like you know what no i'm taking this human costume off i have to go home now i had no idea it was his first performance that's so amazing it was his first performance and he
Starting point is 00:42:45 unmasked himself it was i'm i i mean there was a lot of shit going on it was peak election stuff going on so i feel like it really slipped under the radar but it there's clips of it online it was like truly the best television i've seen in a really long time. Listen, at the iHeart Studio, we have Snooki's text, her infamous text from the season on the wall on a giant flag. And now I really feel like we need to have Mickey Rourke with his head off, just hang up right there. It's iconic level television. That is amazing. It is that great of television. Because when you just hear the voice escape,
Starting point is 00:43:26 like right before he rips the gremlin head off, he goes, no more, no more. Mickey Rourke is all of us. It's the greatest clip you'll ever watch. It's like pure serotonin. Apparently Netflix is going to try to be like a network they're going to do like a streaming like a linear version of netflix so uh that's interesting to me wait like wait like you just turn on netflix and there's something on oh everybody's watching so this
Starting point is 00:44:04 is something i've somewhat been asking for, and I think it absolutely feeds into the ambient depression TV conversation of like, I don't want to have to make a choice. I came here to put something on the TV and walk away. And if you're like me, you have like five shows in rotation that you're like, for me it's like King of the Hill. I guess I could watch more of that any time. I will absolutely do some more Bob's Burgers is on somewhere the game crazy drama so i feel
Starting point is 00:44:30 like but i still think i don't understand why no streaming service is listening to the internet because the internet has been begging for playlist style streams forever like decision what if i just put all five of my shows in there and you just shook it up and we're like here's episode five from season six and i just watched that like that we're like, here's episode five from season six. And I just watched that. Like, that is honestly the dream. I don't trust Netflix. Netflix is going to do what any smart business person would do, which is like, here's our new show.
Starting point is 00:44:54 We hope you get hooked to it. Right. I don't want to watch your new show. I don't watch something I watch 8000 times. So I don't have the anxiety of having to figure out what's going to happen next. I just want to know. Yeah, they will totally fuck it up, though. They will.
Starting point is 00:45:07 You're just like, I did not want to watch The Holiday, and you know that. You knew that. And now I'm 45 minutes into it because I couldn't find the remote and I'm hooked. God damn it. Just a PSA to everyone, you don't need to watch The Holiday. I took that L for us all.
Starting point is 00:45:26 It's not worth it. I'm thinking about watching Jingle Jingle and just doing a live tweet of it because the fact that it's not named after the drug that's on the Archie series, Riverdale on the CW, but it does share the same name. Really? Yeah, in Riverdale, Jingle Jingle
Starting point is 00:45:41 is like their hard drug. It's like the heroine of Riverdale. That's the worst name for a hard drug. It's terrible, but it's funny. They box a bear in prison, Jack. Someone brought a bear into a prison, put it in a boxing ring, and then had one of the stars fight it. The show is unhinged, but in the best possible way. I'm curious if there is any correlation between the drug jingle jangle
Starting point is 00:46:06 on riverdale and jingle jangle the comedic hip-hop musical christmas special on netflix i feel like there's got to be some good meaty discourse in there somewhere i was in on jingle jangle the second i learned forrest whitaker's character was named geronicus jangle. I was like, okay, I'm going to watch that. Holy shit. The trailer alone is enough. The trailer is like, I have to... Keegan-Michael Key plays the villain. In what world?
Starting point is 00:46:36 That sounds incredible. Is it a series or a single? It's a movie. It's a movie. Okay, I'm in. I'm already watching it right now. All right, let's take a quick break. We'll be right back. This wasn't just a new game. Atari promised $150,000 in prizes to four finalists. But the prizes disappeared. And what started as a video game promotion
Starting point is 00:47:12 became one of the most controversial moments in 80s pop culture. I just don't believe they exist. My reaction, shock and awe. That sword was amazing. It was so beautiful. I'm Jamie Loftus. Join me this spring for The Legend of Sword Quest, a podcast about the fall of Atari and the disappearing Sword Quest prizes.
Starting point is 00:47:32 We'll follow the quest for lost treasure across four decades. It's almost like a metaphor for the industry and Atari itself in a way. Listen to The Legend of Sword Quest on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This summer, the nation watched as the Republican nominee for president was the target of two assassination attempts, separated by two months. These events were mirrored nearly 50 years ago
Starting point is 00:48:02 when President Gerald Ford faced two attempts on his life in less than three weeks. President Gerald R. Ford came stunningly close to being the victim of an assassin today. And these are the only two times we know of that a woman has tried to assassinate a U.S. president. One was the protege of infamous cult leader Charles Manson. I always felt like Lynette was kind of his right-hand woman. cult leader Charles Manson.
Starting point is 00:48:24 I always felt like Lynette was kind of his right-hand woman. The other, a middle-aged housewife working undercover for the FBI in a violent revolutionary underground. Identified by police as Sarah Jean Moore. The story of one strange and violent summer. This is Rip Current. Available now with new episodes every Thursday. Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, fam. I'm Simone Boyce.
Starting point is 00:48:52 I'm Danielle Robay. And we're the hosts of The Bright Side, the daily podcast from Hello Sunshine that is guaranteed to light up your day. Every weekday, we bring you conversations with the culture makers who inspire us. Every weekday, we bring you conversations with the culture makers who inspire us. Like our recent episode with Grammy award-winning rapper Eve on her new memoir and the moments that made her. It became a theme in my life, the underdog syndrome of being questioned, of the, would they say this to a man? No, they would not. Like, why? That was one of those moments where you're just like, oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:49:24 It was a bit shocking, but it didn't take any steam away or anything like that. If anything, it was more of the, okay, I'll show you. No worries. Listen to The Bright Side from Hello Sunshine on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I've been thinking about you. I want you back in my life it's too late for that I have a proposal for you
Starting point is 00:49:50 come up here and document my project all you need to do is record everything like you always do one session 24 hours BPM 110 120 she's terrified should we wake her up?
Starting point is 00:50:05 Absolutely not. What was that? You didn't figure it out? I think I need to hear you say it. That was live audio of a woman's nightmare. This machine is approved and everything? You're allowed to be doing this? We passed the review board a year ago.
Starting point is 00:50:22 We're not hurting people. There's nothing dangerous about what you're doing they're just dreams dream sequence is a new horror thriller from blumhouse television iheart radio and realm listen to dream sequence on the iheart radio app apple podcasts or you get your podcasts. And we're back. What is something from your search history that you don't want us to know about? I mean, I'm pretty open about all of the things that i uh i do search but i am a little bit embarrassed um that it's two weeks after halloween and my search history is so full of halloween stuff uh i just can't can't get enough of spooky stuff what do you mean like you look like you want to buy spooky stuff um spooky shit to put in the house you know i'm goth and you guys knew that you guys accepted that i'm a goth american um i do want some spooky stuff in my house i do have a couple spooky things like i
Starting point is 00:51:30 have a large kimono on a wall um i had a blackout like a week ago and it was very creepy um stuff like that um so the thing that i have have been i think the weirdest thing that i've searched uh or still keep searching is um this thing called um jimmy i'm trying to pronounce it right but it's halloween costumes that are like um very like mundane and like specific it's like a japanese trend called jimmy yeah yeah like just meaning like subdued like just plain totally just like halloween costumes of like someone who has like has too many pens in their pocket or someone who's like waiting in line but they're like busy to go somewhere else oh my god i didn't even so yes like a very japanese bit to just be like, no, these are Jimmy.
Starting point is 00:52:32 It's like someone who dressed up as like, oh, I dress up as someone who has a lanyard and it's flipped the wrong way. You can definitely tell the difference between good and bad coffee. Exactly. You have to explain it is pretty much my favorite thing uh your your search has ruined my day because now this is all i'm going to be looking at absolutely yeah some of these are super brilliant like they it's not always just like super mundane like one of them is a woman with her face painted as a standard zoom background like a little piece of a standard zoom background and her costume is that weird thing that sometimes happen with zoom meeting backgrounds and then they have like bystanders from a famous frame in jojo's bizarre adventure
Starting point is 00:53:18 they just have like a dude from the background of that oh you with jo fuck with JoJo? Oh, I'm just looking at this. Oh, okay. Well, absolutely, Jack does. Jack is on that JoJo shit. Jack loves golden wings. I see his JoJo memes he'd be posting. You know. You know me. What is something you think is underrated? This might not be underrated for most people,
Starting point is 00:53:38 but in my life, it was underrated. Having the proper storage system. I am a messy person. I come from a line of messy people. As my dad said about my mom, she's the messiest person I've ever met. And it's not that she's slothful. She just doesn't know how to organize and doesn't know how to like purge. And so I, and I know I sound like an adult blaming my mom for something. Maybe it was not her job to pass this along to me, but somehow I just like never accrued the knowledge and the know-how to be an organized person who doesn't have just clutter on like every horizontal surface. It's just a thing that I, I don't know, like my husband is not, he's also messy, but it's
Starting point is 00:54:33 not as bad as me. I just don't know how to do it. But anyway, I, there was this article I read on the cut and it was like, here's how I organize my small bathroom. And I actually have a pretty good size bathroom, but I bought some of the under cabinet storage drawers that she recommended. And I put them in the under the sink area. And all of a sudden, everything that was just a big pile of crap before is like neatly organized. And when I open it, I just feel this sense of calm wash over me. And I'm like, oh my God, this is how people do it. My problem, in addition to hoarding too much crap, my problem is that I've just never, I don't have the right shelves and drawer, like the right kind of storage system can make your space. Again, I'm saying something everyone knows. The right
Starting point is 00:55:22 kind of storage system can make your space not feel totally out of control. And I've just never done that before. One counterpoint to that is my wife and I are both very messy people who are very like ADD. And we have found that we have a problem with clutter from organizational products. We have container store shit everywhere. We have probably 30 books about living with ADD without medication. Yeah, it can be a problem if you don't stick to it. So it's good that really making a plan and sticking to it as opposed to
Starting point is 00:56:06 just having drawers upon drawers and like keeping the ones when they break because he bought like some cheap plastic shelving. Isn't that the most beautiful like poetry in the world when you're just like laying in a pile of depression books that are just like spine uncracked and you're like any any day now yes i have a book called clutter's last stand that i've never opened it is clutter that's a custer reference yeah that fucking rules and rules. Clutters last day. Who was the audience? Just me. It's just me.
Starting point is 00:56:50 Someday. I am going to have to go out and buy that book now. Unfortunately for my household. What is something you think is underrated? The answer is specifically tied to my dog which is that I think chihuahuas are very much
Starting point is 00:57:07 underrated um i have an eight pound black chihuahua and they get a really bad rap and that's because most people who own chihuahuas aren't very good at training them um but she's amazing she hikes eight miles with me well eight pound body hikes willikes. We'll, like, do eight miles. I'm tired at the end of it. And she's like, no, I'm still ready to go. She's super trainable. I've recently taught her to put away her toys. I have to do each individually.
Starting point is 00:57:35 But she will, like, I say, like, take it. She'll take it. And I point to the basket where we put her toys, and she'll drop it in there. Like, these dogs are amazing, and i don't know why they get hated on so much it's it's really unfortunate i i so you i'm sure as someone who like loves already you've confessed you were into zoology so as part of you being like i can make this work like i don't know enough about all this because i think i can make any of it work yeah right because i feel like a lot of people just sort of get, if they're not used to training a dog or how that works or something,
Starting point is 00:58:07 they give up very easily, and then you get the runaway train effect where it's like, I don't know, I think my chihuahua's in here. I don't know, check. Or is everything ripped up? Oh, yeah, the dog's in here then. Or like, oh, they shit on your pillow that you were sleeping on? Oh, that's weird. But yeah, do you get like, what are you using like a clicker
Starting point is 00:58:25 method and just treat positive reinforcement how do you yeah to teach her a new treat a new trick i will generally use a clicker because she actually responds relatively well to it okay um she's not one of those dogs where you can just like you can you can show them a thing and then they'll they'll mimic you like they're like super dogs that can do that. She's not like that. But the clicker works well with her. And, yeah, just catching the trick. So if she does something that I like, then I will praise her, like, crazy.
Starting point is 00:58:56 Like, it's a party in this apartment if you did something great. And then she'll figure it out, and she'll try to recreate that moment, and then you praise that more. Yeah. Yeah. I, if you could see the amount of just
Starting point is 00:59:09 toys around me right now, I could use, I'm taking notes right now for how to train my two and four year old to do what you're, humans, yeah, yeah. Yeah, no, I, because actually I was talking to my wife yesterday about how, like, as far as, like, catching a trick and then praising a specific behavior.
Starting point is 00:59:30 Yeah. Like, it is actually quite similar with very young children, right? Like, you praise them when they do something that's really good and you just, like, catch them in the act and they try and recreate it because they know it's a good thing. Yeah. I think that stops working after a while. Right, yeah. I think that stops working after a while. But when they're young.
Starting point is 00:59:46 Or you reinforce the wrong behaviors that you take into adulthood. And you're like, oh, I meant to be passive around this kind of person. Because that's how I was being like, oh, good for you. If someone tells you to come here, you know, you do that. Okay, the other thing I want to know about chihuahuas is I like chihuahuas. But their big ass skulls kind of freak me out. Like I'm always looking at them like, yo, what is up? Yeah, the dome skull? Yeah, like what's up with your skull piece, chihuahua?
Starting point is 01:00:09 Yeah, it's weird. She actually, so there are two types of chihuahuas. Okay. She's not a purebred. She's a rescue from Texas. But there are two types of chihuahuas. One has like a dome skull and the other one has more of like a flat skull. So she's a flat skull chihuahua.
Starting point is 01:00:25 Gotcha. Okay. I agree with you. The dome skull is weird. No shade to dome skulls, but for me, maybe not my cup of tea. Yeah. No, I get you.
Starting point is 01:00:36 I feel you. Yeah. It's just something, it looks uncomfortable. Like when you see like the trembling chihuahuas that have like the dome skull, because you're like, is your head about to explode? Is that why you're shaking? Because that's what it looks like to me.
Starting point is 01:00:47 So I will tell you that the trembling is one major downside of this particular animal. Like she does it all the time. If she's stressed out, if she's cold, which is a lot of the time, she will shake. And that I do like, I wish that wasn't a thing that she did. But you know what? I'm cold all the time too. So if I'm cold, I wish that wasn't a thing that she did. But you know what? I'm cold all the time too. So if I'm cold, I know she's cold. So we help each other out.
Starting point is 01:01:11 We alert each other to this environmental problem that we're facing. She's probably thinking about you. She's like, oh, every time I get in her arms, it's so cold. And Jamie, I noticed on twitter that you've been you you tweeted uh a truly cursed uh christmas tree ornament that uh i can't believe exists and and uh you are telling me that there are more of these is what i'm gathering so this year is uh my first year living with my partner and living in a place that a christmas tree could sort of fit so i like have been shopping for like a fake apartment d-sized christmas tree so that is how i came across these ornaments it appears that
Starting point is 01:02:01 thousands of them have been sold uh And they're all about 2020. I'm going to drop some of them into the chat and then just kind of describe them. But just keep in mind for people listening that every word I'm about to say is in a different font. And that it's accompanied by a cute little clip art. Did you get my first one? Yeah. Oh, wow. It says 2020. by a cute little clip art. Did you get my first one? Yeah. I'd like to watch what could be this one. It says 2020.
Starting point is 01:02:31 And I have to imagine this has to be the size of a dinner plate because it says so many things. It says, shop online, wash those hands, clean and organize. What day is it? Binge watching, Zoom. What's your temp? That one's sinister. Stay home, curbside pickup. Home workouts. Survive the TP shortage.
Starting point is 01:02:47 That is also very harped on is the TP shortage. Face masks. Flatten the curve. YouTube. Game nights. And my favorite. And then it just says global pandemic. And that's an ornament you can put on your tree if you.
Starting point is 01:03:04 And then here's another one i'll they're all sorry real quick yeah any questions what is what is uh i designed this is that is that some new uh thing that the pandemic gave us youtube so as the designer of these ornaments i i'm really hoping we can get some organic interest in the parent market in YouTube via these ornaments. So I'm hoping we can really get everyone excited about YouTube right in time for the holidays. Can I just say how much I hate this? I mean, I just couldn't hate it more. I hate that they're making, they're like, this is like the but first coffee of a global pandemic
Starting point is 01:03:45 with a death toll. It's so cutesy. It's like, this is like something you'd make with like inside jokes from your family reunion in 1998. Like this is making me want to barf. That is going to kill someone.
Starting point is 01:03:57 That's the font game being delivered here. It's very like wine o'clock kind of graphic design. So the next one is, it says a year to remember this one's formatted like a checklist but there is a lot of clip art a year to remember toilet paper shortage check mask wearing check hand sanitizer check drive-by parties check curbside pickup work from home quarantine travel ban social distancing online school sports canceled and
Starting point is 01:04:25 worldwide pandemic check and then it looks like zio zio so it yeah it's real led zeppelini who can remember who can forget the zozo um i hate this too the last one i'd like to share is uh maybe the worst one it's uh it's the 12 days of coronavirus in the 2020 so it i think allison is actually physically getting ill i won't i won't sing the whole thing but it goes no you can no you must you have okay okay you know okay i've set myself up for this. I did. I was just cackling when I, because they're all on like the best-selling ornaments.
Starting point is 01:05:14 Like they're like, these are the top ones. Oh, really? There's a lot of people that are gonna have these. The dregs of, oh man. No, they're like the top. So on the 12th, the 12 days of Christmas, Corona gave to me is what we're. Yeah, the pandemic gave to me 12 canceled plans, 11 face masks, 10 sanitizers,
Starting point is 01:05:34 nine murder hornets, eight Zoom calls, seven mental breakdowns, six feet apart. That's good. Five curbside pickups four quarantines three travel restrictions two karens complaining and a massive shortage of tp nailed it that's a really bold move to say two karens complaining for an ornament that is clearly being marketed at Karen's. To and by Karen's, yeah. Yeah, like self-aware Karen's, if that's possible. So those are, yeah, those are the most coronavirus-themed ornaments.
Starting point is 01:06:16 They are topping the charts on Jeff Bezos' little experiment. And yeah, they're the worst shit i've ever seen but they're all all three of those are in the top 10 right now now is he the youtube guy uh jeff bezos or i don't think he's managed to to get to youtube i think he should probably start a channel though i think it would be very well received these are all like if there was a conversation starters for Dummies 2020, like, these are all, like, how about the murder hornets? Am I right? I'm already imagining a scenario where I discover that someone I like has these ornaments. I mean, I'm buying all of them.
Starting point is 01:06:57 Okay. I don't know. I don't presume to say you like me, but these will all be on my Christmas tree. I have found all three of these off of amazon um if if you're not if you're not doing amazon uh you can still get these hideous ornaments and uh i feel like i'm gonna get one yeah i'm trying to figure out just as like a relic not as i'm not even gonna hang it up i'm just gonna put it out. Just as like a relic. I'm not even going to hang it up. I'm just going to put it in a drawer. And then someday my children will be like, what's that? And I'll have to sing that song to them.
Starting point is 01:07:33 Why do you think YouTube is on that first one? I know this is not the most, the silliest thing. Did they just find out about YouTube during the pandemic? Do you think as the graphic designer i just learned about youtube earlier this year and so it's been a it's been a big year for me and youtube and i'm gonna i'm not gonna describe this one but there's there's just so many there's so many fonts and youtube is uh not There's more, not the YouTube font, but there's more than one ornament that says YouTube on it as if we were all, as if we've all agreed on this. I don't quite get it.
Starting point is 01:08:15 Maybe the idea is like you finally have time to stay home and watch YouTube. Like we've always dreamed. But like, do they think that that's what people who are doing do they think tiktok is youtube oh oh wait is tiktok youtube am i how do we how would we ever know i don't there's no way to tell you guys that's actually a good call. The font situation in the one you just sent is awful. There's so many fonts. Essential Workers is in a horror movie font.
Starting point is 01:08:54 Virtual Learning, just the use of white space. And I'm not a graphic designer at all, but the use of white space under virtual learning is very upsetting to me. I hate this one. I hate the most just on aesthetics. Face masks, there's too many serifs happening it's very thermometer isn't first of all it just is thermometer uh in unreadable cursive wait where's that i just sent a fourth you sent a fourth there's so many
Starting point is 01:09:21 thermometer and what about these thermometers i think think that's one that even the worst conversation starter attempt would still be like, what? Huh? What do you mean? Right. How about this year, right? 2020 with the thermometer? Am I right?
Starting point is 01:09:42 And these essential workers. What the fuck are you talking about it's brutal is that does that oh birthday parades okay birthday parade yeah i did a very bad job of writing parade that is like that is a nightmare i i think the horror font that says essential workers is just straight up offensive that That's really, that one is a bad one. They did do it in a horror movie font. I hadn't even noticed that. Like,
Starting point is 01:10:11 but it is a total that. Yeah. Like someone wrote that in blood on a mirror. Yeah. I'm sorry that I showed these to you, but I couldn't keep the fact that someone somewhere is making a ton of money off making these hideous ornaments and uh and people seem to be on board if you've purchased one of these uh ornaments reach out to me uh what's something you think is underrated um something i
Starting point is 01:10:42 think is underrated is and hopefully you guys share this with me but hostess cupcakes um specifically the orange kind i like orange hostess cupcakes i can only find them in some convenience stores i can never find them in a grocery store i can never find them in a pack bigger than two um Sometimes they just don't have them. They sustain me sometimes when I'm like, I don't know, really stoned or whatever. But they're delicious. I don't know if you guys have fucked with the citrus cup. I mean, because in my mind, the Hostess regular one is the chocolate brown one with the white swirly on top, right?
Starting point is 01:11:25 And then, oh, okay, this is the one except it's orange colored yes and it's orange flavored because you know truth be told i've only messed around with the with the normie the norm core just the icing and i want i do want both of you to treat yourselves um i mean so you guys haven't experimented with the rest of the host's catalog. Have you guys had a snowball before? I'm host curious, but I haven't fully dove in yet. Oh, my gosh. I've definitely had a snowball. Snowball is the one that's like more marshmallow-y than you would expect, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:58 Snowball's the pink, like coconut-y, marshmallow-y one. That's one that like in theory i should be super into but i like the the marshmallowness of it all doesn't doesn't really do it for me uh icing boy jack show me your praxis yeah um the i've never had the orange but that sounds so there's like a citrus tang that they've infused into the yes the icing has so there's like a citrus tang that they've infused into the yes the icing has a little bit of a citrus tang i'm sure it has absolutely no nutritional value oh yeah we're not asking about that come on yeah okay good yeah there's no vitamin c in there or any of that bad stuff to fight off scurvy i mean this is like if we're gonna be trash americans like this is what america is unique
Starting point is 01:12:50 for is like it's not we america doesn't have any cuisine we have fucking hostess cupcakes that are made with all sorts of unnatural sciences that make it so that they don't break down over the course of 20 years like they'll they'll still be moist if you leave them open on a shelf for 20 years uh that is that's our offering to uh humanity i mean my favorite flavor since a very young age is blue raspberry and um i don't i don't think that's real i don't think blue rad is. I don't think Blue Razz is the thing. Mine's Mystery. That's my favorite flavor.
Starting point is 01:13:29 If we're going off straight up Airhead flavors. Are we talking Airheads? Yeah. Yo, when you got that, you're like, yo. Blue Razz Berry Low Pops. And then it took one asshole to be like, it's cherry. I'm like, get the fuck out of my face with that. Shit, this is fucking Mystery, fool.
Starting point is 01:13:41 Wait, I thought Mystery was just a rotation of different ones without the food coloring so you can't tell what it is but i feel like they definitely light on like maybe two flavors whenever a mystery was a blue razz i lost my mind running through the streets yeah yeah you become that gift for the dude the kid with the dress and the wind blowing i actually am the kid in that uh i don't know if you guys um yeah when blow pops made it so that you could do the blue res that was a big a big day for me oh man or did you have that thing with the tootsie pops if like you had the rapper with the star on it you'd be like i demand another one for free there was an urban legend that if you had the one that a star on top you could exchange that for a free one yeah i have never heard of this that was born out of my school like snack hut that they would have at the end of the day where
Starting point is 01:14:40 you go and like buy like a fucking thing for like 25 cents and there they would be like okay if you got that you can come back and we'll give you another one i tried to do that at like a liquor store and they're like get the fuck out of my face i was like oh fuck out of here man sorry i didn't know yeah i think we had that at like the i think we had that at like the fair at my elementary school but but yeah i guess it's not it's not legally binding. This is not legal tender? I tried to put a down payment on a house with that in my 20s, and it didn't work out. We're like, excuse me, I have 40,000 of these right here. We only accept Monopoly money, okay? All right, that's going to do it for this week's weekly Zeitgeist.
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