The Daily Zeitgeist - Weekly Zeitgeist 161 (Best of 2/1/21-2/5/21)

Episode Date: February 7, 2021

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Starting point is 00:02:12 Hello, the internet, and welcome to this episode of the Weekly Zeitgeist. These are some of our favorite segments from this week, all edited together into one nonstop infotainment laugh-stravaganza. Yeah. So without without further ado here is the weekly zeitgeist well uh we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by a hilarious and talented person who's probably uh the most likely guest we've ever had to know what the fuck you're talking about right there uh she is the hilarious the talented the brilliant molly lambert i'm trying to think of a song parody what's up guys uh stop in game stop game stop in the name of the stock market before you crash the stock market before you take my yacht.
Starting point is 00:03:09 Hey, stop. Stop it with this. What's up, guys? What's up, guys? What's up, Molly? How are you? I am good. You think there'll be a new movement just like walking down Wall Street
Starting point is 00:03:25 and starting to pat people's pockets? You know what I mean? Like if you see a guy in a suit, you're like, what's up, homie? What you got for me? Like, oh my gosh. What's going on? I'm going to show up in costume
Starting point is 00:03:36 as the Brave Girl statue. Oh, not the Brave Girl from Brave. The Brave Girl in this dress. No, no. I do look like the brave girl from Brave, but there is a statue they put up of like, it's like a little girl boss, and she's like standing, looking at the bull,
Starting point is 00:03:52 and being like, I'm going to get you, bull. Girl boss. So yeah, everybody give the girl boss their money. Give it up for girl bosses. I also am into just bringing back like pick pottery yeah you know yeah hell yeah you said pick it pick it pick pick pick pick pick pick pick yeah yeah pick pocket tree yes the forgotten arts yeah i mean but pretty pretty uh like
Starting point is 00:04:21 whenever you go anywhere that has like trains you got still got it's gonna happen yeah i uh my first time in new york when i lived in uh since i was younger i i lived in new york when i was like six seven but then uh as a as a teenager uh when i lived in kentucky my friends and i went to new york and i claimed that I had been pickpocketed and they were like, Oh shit, that's wild. And then they eventually learned that I actually just had like a 20 in the waistband of my basketball shorts.
Starting point is 00:04:54 And they're like, nobody pickpocketed that man. That just like fell out of your basketball shorts. You dumb. You had, you had waistband money. Yeah. No pockets. Just my waistband money? Yeah, no pockets.
Starting point is 00:05:08 Just a little 20 in my waistband. You're asking for the Artful Dodger. I mean, it clearly fell out. Pick a pocket or two. I remember those days. That's like when I used to wear only Nike basketball shorts before they wised up and put pockets in them. So I would be wearing like cincinnati bearcats shorts no pockets and like 80 bucks in my waistband like yeah pinned to my torso because i had but i was really careful about that shit because i could oh i i lost i remember i
Starting point is 00:05:38 lost a five once riding my bike and i after that i always kept track of my waistband I just blamed I blamed it on pickpockets every time like that's damn pickpockets like I was wearing boxers too back then so like you were like came through roller skates and took your money. Remember those guys who were dragging their hockey sticks all menacingly on the ground as they walked towards us? That needs to become a reality now that we're living in this world that bears a striking resemblance to lots of different works of dystopian fiction. We need to start dressing up as themed gangs. I mean, that's what the capital storming seemed like a little bit.
Starting point is 00:06:31 Loose collection. Yeah, but just not very well designed. Their theme was all dot matrix printer camo and red hats. It was a little bit clown gang, though. I had just watched Batman Returns and saw a lot of similarities with kind of just the roving clown gang. Right. So you want
Starting point is 00:06:52 to see like the VSCO cam people like march on the Capitol so there's a little bit more aesthetic to it. Matt, what is something you think is underrated? Underrated? Real talk? and i hate to bring this you know podcast down a little bit but uh dustin diamond r.i.p to a real one uh i i think dustin diamond the guy who played screech you know he recently died yeah and uh i think that
Starting point is 00:07:20 he uh as a human being was constantly underrated his whole life. I think, uh, he was, uh, treated like dog shit his entire life. And people wondered why he was like such a dick after, you know,
Starting point is 00:07:34 saved by the bell. And I was like, I get it, man. I understand as someone who grew up looking like screech and being called screech a lot until Harry Potter came out. And then I started being called Harry Potter. Um, harry potter came out and then i started being called harry potter um like i understand what it's like to uh you know to constantly be uh shit on by people
Starting point is 00:07:54 who look like zach morris and uh you know i so i i felt like after he died i felt like really sad about it because like i feel some sort of kinship with screech like we're kind of like you know we're kind of brothers in that way except for i i was never a child actor you know and never put out a porno or anything but like so what was the like i thought there was something like problematic about him but then all the stories seemed to be that he like edited himself into a point like it was like just actually a really sad story like oh is it that he edited himself listen he edited himself into a porno to make it seem like he was in a porno which is it's pretty bad but yeah there's there's a lot of things about him that
Starting point is 00:08:37 are like i mean there's a constant stories about him you know kind of like um kind of just being dicks to people and whatnot like you know there's a few screech stories that know kind of like um kind of just being dicks to people and whatnot like you know there's a few screech stories that have kind of like made the rounds right and and i understand like i i understand why he would be the way he is because you know like he was a child actor in hollywood which is a predatory industry he played a character that was constantly getting shit on he played the worst kind of character too because it's like um in any other tv show it would have been like like freaks and geeks there's the nerds and there's the cool kids and they don't they don't meet you know right between right the the worst thing about saved by the bell is that
Starting point is 00:09:21 technically screech was zach morris's best friend is the most gaslighting emotionally manipulative relationship you've ever seen on television where you have this you know freaking aryan god you know who gets all the chicks and then this little like crypto semitic character who they never say that he's jewish but let's be real this is a arian versus jew type of thing and and he's pretending like that's his best friend but he shits on him all the time and everyone makes fun of him and like lisa turtle won't give him the time of day like why why not he's a he's perfectly good he's smart and he's a smart guy i understand he's kind of weird but you got to get to know him a little bit point is that point is is that like you know
Starting point is 00:10:06 i i feel like his entire persona and whatnot is a result of playing this character screech and people giving him crap for that and you know i feel like in the afterlife he shall have his revenge his revenge you believe in a vid a vengeful god and that vengeful god is dust and diamond um yeah zach morris is a very interesting character like very much i i haven't seen the the reboot of saved by the bell but either of them very much uh like introduced uh me to the concept of like a winning uh predatory capitalist kind of guy who like yes everybody can't help but like while he is like you know stealing money from you and treating you like shit but very likably yeah yeah he does he does crimes likably and uh cheats all the time and is like original american psycho yeah straight up straight up original american psycho and like you know but you're just charmed
Starting point is 00:11:13 by him because he's hot and you're just like no there's more there's more to this world than just being hot you know you got to have like strength of character and you never had that i mean i don't want to i i had to look it up and figure out what was going on with dustin's sex tape uh so he used a fake wang because he didn't want to put himself out there like that he did hire a quote body double and he decided to do it after the paris hilton tape where she apparently earned 14 million dollars he was in his like mid-20s and he thought it was a good idea but in 2004 he went on oprah's where are they now um he was in his mid-30s by then and he was like yeah i realized it was stupid of me to try to get millions of dollars like paris hilton uh but you know that is a very science of the new that is a very profound misunderstanding of the dynamics of the sex tape industry and what people were looking for from Paris Hilton and from him.
Starting point is 00:12:12 Yeah. He kind of misread that a bit. Like, oh, clearly they just want to see anyone who's ever been on television. Fuck. Right. No, that's not true but but it does it begs the question uh why he felt the need or how he could have been in a financial situation in which he would have been like desperate enough to put out a fake uh sex tape you know and a lot of it is because uh his you know i'm sure he was screwed out of
Starting point is 00:12:46 all sorts of like syndication money and and all that stuff you know because like saved by the bell is in syndication he was in both shows he was in the new class and the old class why would he not have money and he was constantly in money money trouble. And I look at that and I say, Hollywood's a predatory industry. Yeah. No, that's very fair. Ramsey is in the house, by the way. My four-year-old has joined us.
Starting point is 00:13:16 Ramsey, you want to say hi to Matt and Joelle? Hi, Matt and Joelle. Hi. What's up? Hi, Matt and Joelle. Hi. Joelle. What's up? I'm Matt and Joelle. Oh, my God. My heart. Precious baby.
Starting point is 00:13:31 All right. I'll have kids. Fine. Whoa. Drastic decisions. Everybody getting an animal. I'm like, chill. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:43 That is a big thing right now huh like just a lot of dog adoptions i almost did it i get it i'm so close like i bought all the stuff for the dog now i just need the dog the perfect one you know you might just be okay with just all the stuff for the dog just the crates in the bed with that for a couple weeks. See how that goes. Joelle keeps buying all of these dog toys, but there's no dog. My brother was like, do we need three dog beds? I was like, one for each floor. I want to be comfortable wherever he is. That's true.
Starting point is 00:14:15 Yeah. And that also gives him a place. It trains him to always have a place as opposed to just like lying all over no that's smart everything brand new couch i don't think so i don't think so dog i'm assuming you're gonna name him dog what is something you think is overrated over do i'm so tired of the avocado singing i just got my driver's license but also i'm like maybe i get involved you know like seems like an easy check um yeah oh yeah and i know she's got like you just nailed it the disney community behind her and stuff so i know that there's like you just nailed it the disney community behind her and stuff so i
Starting point is 00:15:05 know that there's like you know the youth like they have plenty of time to stream the song and blow it up and i'm sure it's a it's a fine song but i was like really number one in the world this this was this what we doing like it's i was like what is this and i have the same thing to say about avocado singers i have to say about r&b singers who are doing that like sizzling what are you saying i want to sing along i'm tired of this i'm tired of having to just be like can i know the words it's not a karaoke friendly singing style because you're like oh i do need the words i really do need them and then when you read the words you're like wait what that's what she said what right we're all gonna be a karaoke like come and stop all night yeah yeah yeah i'm a seat belt and i'm
Starting point is 00:15:58 riding that whole album is like like Ariana Grande has one of the most beautiful voices I've ever heard and I'll ever know what she be talking about I don't know if we talking about sex I don't know if we talking about honestly Ariana could be organizing for Antifa we're gonna meet on third street and we're gonna be
Starting point is 00:16:18 that's how they stormed the Capitol Ariana's single yeah she was sending messages through her vocals all of congress will be in the right way we won't know that driver's license song that was like one of those things where i i didn't think i had heard it but then i'm like oh i've heard that at 7-eleven every time i've been in a 7-eleven for a month i just didn't it's a real 7-eleven kind of song oh it is no disrespect i mean it's like whatever like i because that was the girl is from like the high school musical tv series is that right right high school musical the movie the tv show or something doesn't it have some meta title like that?
Starting point is 00:17:06 Yeah, I'm feeling like an absolute boomer not really knowing what it is. It's that. Good for her. This one seems acutely designed to be only meaningful to people between who aren't of legal drinking age yet. And that seems like it's kind of creating some of the some of the popularity because then everybody else is talking shit about it and like that's actually what makes it what makes pop music cool is like old people hating it so it's bizarre
Starting point is 00:17:40 she was in that and then high school musical the the musical, the series. Yes, that's exactly what it's called. That's what I thought. I knew there was one other show though. Yeah, but I don't know, Jack. It's like it gives me like, remember that song that was like, it started with a whisper that we all got tortured. Also a huge 7-Eleven song. We all got tortured by that
Starting point is 00:18:02 song. But was anybody ever like, this is a bop? Yeah, yeah, yeah. For sure. Listenleven song. We all got tortured by that song, but was anybody ever like this is a bop? Yeah, yeah, yeah. They just were like, listen to this song! Punching us. Cram it down. I heard that song every day of my life. Like...
Starting point is 00:18:16 So... And I could not tell you... I could not tell... Whose song is that even? Who knows? Who knows? Yeah, no, nobody knows, Jamie. We've been trying to figure that out for years,
Starting point is 00:18:31 and the scientific community is still baffled, unable to figure it out. When I get the little emo side of the kids wanting this avocado song and liking to listen to it, it's fine. And she plays instruments. I'm not trying to take anything away from her as a musician i was just like i don't know can we sing with our voices again no and we're not gonna say words we're not gonna put the t's at the ends of what no it's gonna be what no okay fair fair what did you just say?
Starting point is 00:19:06 Maybe that is like a thing. I feel like every generation has like a musical style where they don't respect certain letters because it's like, whatever, like early 2000s pop music, they didn't finish their words either where it's like, Yeah, it was like more of a vowel issue for that generation. Their vowels were all over the place. All right, let's take a quick break and we'll come right back. When you think of Mexican culture, you think of avocado, mariachi, delicious cuisine, and of course, lucha libre.
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Starting point is 00:23:41 Underrated? Great question, Jack. Oh, thank you so much i will say underrated is any type of youtube cooking video like we've all been in pandemic now for almost a year so we've all been cooking at home like i have really been tearing through um youtube cooking videos but not just like you know the dude or the lady or whoever sitting in their kitchen like have you seen these videos of like it'll just be like some random like hungarian man with like a big knife in the woods just cooking in a pot have you seen those videos oh there's so oh i went cooking with what like a over a fire yeah he'll he'll like
Starting point is 00:24:15 build a fire he just has this giant ordained knife and like he'll it'll be like him cutting up the meat and cutting up the onions and like he always puts like the spices on the giant knife and then dumps it into like his like cast iron as he's cooking over wood. The one that I watched the most is called men with the pot. I think he's like a Polish or Hungarian guy because it'll have like salt in English. And then we'll have like whatever, like language he speaks translated.
Starting point is 00:24:40 And it's just him cooking random, delicious looking food in the woods with a pot and one giant knife. No spatulas, no tongs. It's just a dude with a big ass knife in the woods. I love that. Whenever you see videos like that, I'm like, does this guy know about the coronavirus or has he just been in the woods with his knife for years? That's amazing. Just doing his thing. It's great.
Starting point is 00:25:07 I do wonder, remember that article right after Trump won where the New York Times guy is like, he's not a New York Times, he doesn't work for the New York Times, but he's just like the most New York Times reader that the New York Times has ever profiled.
Starting point is 00:25:23 He's got a beard and a tote bag. He had quarantined himself off from the real world so he wouldn't find out who won the election and was living in a separate reality. I wish I could have that type of privilege. I could just escape reality for four years. I wonder if he's still out there and doesn't know
Starting point is 00:25:40 about the coronavirus. Maybe this is the guy. Maybe he's got his own bad-ass YouTube channel. Developed an accent. Yeah. I love isolated people with YouTube channels. It's so antithetical. It makes no sense.
Starting point is 00:25:53 Have you seen the dude that builds spas in the middle of the jungle in South America? Right, like carves them into the ground. Yeah, it's just this one dude. He has two tools
Starting point is 00:26:03 and it's just him moving tons of dirt and building elaborate spas in the middle of the jungle yeah it's just this one dude he has two tools and it's just him like moving tons of dirt and building like elaborate spas in the middle of no in the jungle it's great how do you get there like how do you arrive at that point where you're like this is it for me like i've done it's like the rock the raccoon guy channel that he's like it's this old man in canada and he leaves out food and then there's like 50 raccoons that comes to his porch every day and he has five trillion subscribers oh that's my life give me that it's nice it's nice and they love him there's a whole community it's like my octopus teacher but with 50 raccoons my 50 raccoon teachers i do think that there's like a fascination with like the blending of yeah like a spa that's like dug into just like earth or uh
Starting point is 00:26:48 you know a cooking video that's like that uh the sort of complete other end of that continuum is that the new amazon building i don't know if you guys saw that but it's like they've created this giant like prism shaped uh spiral hot skyscraper but like like cake to park onto the outside of it so like there's like a big uh full super villain stuff i love it yeah it really is at this point why not yeah um yeah it's very elysium but kind of mixed what's something you think is overrated overrated i would say is copaganda like tv shows that portray police officers because these shows are basically marketing for police departments and they glorify and normalize the systemic violence and injustices that are handed out by the police and instead make them heroes and so overrated what's is there a piece of copaganda you'd had you've had to have a reckoning with over time as you're like i
Starting point is 00:27:59 realize this is this is just straight nonsense but but i loved it as a tv show or film um i most of the time watch that stuff in it like i i'm no fun to watch legal shows with i scream at the tv i'm like that that's not true that would never happen you know i'm like really unfun so this is why i just like you know i just instead watch like reality television there you go yeah because like what do we know about the k1 visa process on 90 day fiance but watch a procedural with you you're like oh that is not oh my god the chain of custody on that is absolutely bizarre right that makes sense i watched den of thieves the weekend. I had not seen that. That's the Gerard Butler 2018 movie that it like the protagonists are the L.A. Sheriff's Department who and like it's there are like vague implications that they're the ones who have those tattoos and basically kill people and have white supremacist ties. But they cut all that out.
Starting point is 00:29:16 They make the team a little bit more diverse. But it's like you're supposed to be rooting for the L.A. Sheriff's Department in 2018. Still having trouble. Just like that Denzel movie that came out where people were like, this is also copaganda. I don't care if it's Denzel. And we're taking a rosy lens to look at 1993 policing. But yeah, it's everywhere. Chapo Trap House had recommended that they were
Starting point is 00:29:47 like that movie's great it's like about a dirt bag and it's like huh that's the one with o'shea jackson jr right yeah and it's yeah that one takes a weird turn i'm like whatever it's just like it's just like testosterone fest it's really there's not much else in it absolutely i haven't seen it but i'm not going to yeah good no no watch uh watch bling empire instead about the real crazy rich asians of la which i was watching over the weekend oh yeah how is that it's wild you know it's funny when you see like the you know just obscene wealth where like people are giving each other gifts and like yeah the towel has real gold in it. You're like, you gave someone a towel that had gold in it.
Starting point is 00:30:28 And you're like, that's it's so obscene. And it's just like a whole other dimension of reality that we're not used to. Eliza, I'm curious as running for D.A. and saying things like copaganda. Right. You know, a lot of people, as we've seen over the years, like to walk this weird line of being like, well, I don't want to make the police mad, but also wanting to also seek justice in terms of, and I don't, I don't, you don't need to cast dispersions on the other people running, but it seems like there are what, eight, how many people are running at the moment? Eight people. It seems like there are what, eight?
Starting point is 00:31:03 How many people are running at the moment? Eight people? Has that been a tone right now for the other candidates? Because I feel like only one is not really about any kind of real reform or seemingly doesn't seem like very forward thinking. But in terms of the race as it is right now, how many people are sort of have this sort of progressive viewpoint on how things need to change within New York? Well, so, you know, what's so interesting, and I was kind of touching on this a little bit when I say that now all of a sudden it's become popular to decriminalize sex work, we should decriminalize drug possession, we should end mass incarceration and stop using, you know, jail as the default and punitive prison sentences for low level offenses. But the problem is, even people who are now
Starting point is 00:31:57 espousing progressive talking points, because they're popular, are not necessarily people who truly believe these things. And I think some of the evaluations that have come out recently about the candidates really do kind of delve into these nuanced views of what kinds of changes you would make. And in those, like I come out, you know, head and shoulders above everyone else. I'm the only real progressive in the race who has the authentic commitment from my career, from my experience as being a public defender and fighting against this system of injustice. And it's not like all of a sudden, one day I woke up and was like, oh, you know what? I think it'd be popular to say we should
Starting point is 00:32:35 end mass incarceration. So that's the pivot I'm going to take. And yeah, I'm going to hold police accountable. And it's like people who've been working in conjunction with the police to lock people up for their entire careers all of a sudden are saying they're going to hold police accountable. And it's like people who've been working in conjunction with the police to lock people up for their entire careers all of a sudden are saying they're going to hold police accountable. Well, I've spent every day of my career cross-examining police officers and questioning the veracity of the things that they say. And so I think that, you know, prioritizing this kind of accountability for the police and these real reforms is incredibly important, but making sure that we're not just listening to someone's memorized talking points, but looking into their record, looking into their history, making sure that this is an authentic commitment to bringing about real change. Right. And I can tell by the New York Post treatment of you, you probably are walking the walk because they're painting you as someone who's like this headline.
Starting point is 00:33:23 Most Manhattan DA candidates care most for protecting criminals. walk because they're painting you as someone who's like this headline most men most manhattan da candidates care most for protecting criminals wow and just like such a disingenuous look on reform which is like these people just want it's like it's gonna look like a batman movie where they just open up the asylums and the jails and it's it's it's you know the people are gonna be running wild when it's really about we have such know the people are going to be running wild when it's really about we have such an inhumane of treating people and we're not actually we're not addressing the root causes of anything um so rather than it so you know credit to you because all the the new york post is absolute trash listen if the new york post is criticizing
Starting point is 00:34:00 me i'm obviously doing something right yeah exactly i feel like great about it our pick for manhattan da then you'd be like uh do you do you aspire to one day have like a real shitty new york post like pun headline about you i feel i feel like that would be the ultimate honor is like some yeah some oh they're gonna they're gonna come after me undoubtedly like it'll be it'll be a daily occurrence of them just hating on me right i'm looking forward to it yeah hell yeah let's talk about uh coronavirus covid19 the big i don't know those are the only two names i know for it uh are you okay yeah are you like as
Starting point is 00:34:45 soon as you said it like for effect in my throat yeah that could be like that could be a a sound cue that we have every time we bring up coronavirus yeah that's a nice one sensitive to the 450,000 dead american that would be an amazing that would be an amazing like morning zoo like talk radio thing where they're like and now in coronavirus news and then you just have like a slide whistle
Starting point is 00:35:17 alright well the numbers are dropping so we can have fun here folks it uh people aren't really sure why like it seems like it's partially vaccine uh partially we're seeing the you know remnants of the you know holiday travel it's kind of clearing through our system after everybody went and saw their family during the holiday. And then there's also, well, I, so yesterday when I saw this chart, I was like, yeah, of course, of course, it's because Trump is gone. Like he was telling,
Starting point is 00:35:57 he was lying and like people it's happening everywhere in the world. So we actually had to like cut a chunk of yesterday's episode out where I was just like ranting about how it was all joe biden uh but it's i think that at least has to be like i think there's a bunch of different uh factors combining right like that's yeah in medicine like that's they do they do that all the time where they're like there are four medications that we know how to treat this cancer with we're gonna give you all of them yeah and i mean i i do think weather has something to do with it too yeah yeah so that was something i didn't realize until i started like kind of trying to research why it's dropping weather is a big contributing factor like to the point that it's more important than like whether somebody is social distancing or not
Starting point is 00:36:45 yeah well i think because it um and i i'm not a scientist i just want to point that out in case people got confused um but i think social distancing and whether uh they're correlated in that like you know if you're if it's freezing outside you're less likely to you're most likely to be inside uh and stay inside with other groups of people rather than these outdoor restaurants and whatnot. So people are still meeting up. But before, they would go to a park or something. And now people are like, oh, let's go hang out and whatever. And also, this is also, I think, the Christmas holiday bump kind of had a huge surge and now
Starting point is 00:37:28 it's dropping again. So I think we're going to level out for a bit and then we'll continue dropping. Yeah, so there are a bunch of different articles about this talking about what one thing that we know for certain is good for not different articles about this talking about like what one thing that we know for certain is uh good for not spreading coronavirus or like bad for the actual spread of the virus is uh wind like if it's windy it spreads much worse and then we also know it really seems to be like a completely completely correlated with temperature. There's this study that found, I think it was, so starting at 88 degrees and going down by one temperature, every time you drop a single degree,
Starting point is 00:38:17 the rate of transmission rose by 3.7%. So it's like that much of a just straightforward like if it's this temperature you are going to have a covid spike um which seems relevant and like i i was thinking like why why aren't we telling everybody this because that seems like a very important thing but they like nobody knows why other than that the actual like physical virus likes that temperature better because they were saying that apparently i always assumed uh the influenza what influenza was seasonal because of you know what you were mentioning matt like staying inside versus going outside during the summer months and this scientist in this article was saying that like that actually the literature doesn't support that um we actually only spend like 10 percent more time indoors
Starting point is 00:39:14 during the winter than outdoors on average uh than we do during the summer on average yeah but what does he know though right i mean you know mean, you know, like... Which people are this? Who is outside 10% less in the... I feel like I never go outside in the winter. I'm like, home, inside, great. It might be because we never go outside in the summer either. It's hot. More and more these days.
Starting point is 00:39:36 It's too hot. I didn't think about that. Oh, right, right. All right, I'm a hermit. I'm an anti-socialist. All right, I've been outside. We're podcasters. Inside is our sweet spot. Yeah. right i'm a hermit yeah um yeah uh another kind of new emerging study or like kind of scientific area that they're looking at is uh covet what they're calling covet long haulers uh which gives it a very like 70s smoky and the bear uh like type vibe but it's
Starting point is 00:40:08 actually like people who uh a recent study of patients in wuhan china found three quarters of them still have symptoms six months after they left the hospital god damn it so like that wait how many do you say three Three quarters, three, three quarters. So that's obviously like they, this isn't a sample of everybody who tested positive, right? This is a sample of people who were bad enough to have to be hospitalized. Um,
Starting point is 00:40:36 but still it's, I guess, I guess I have generally heard the stories of people who, uh, don't make it or people who recover and just get back to their lives. I didn't really know about this. And apparently, the illness that they're seeing a lot of these people have is very similar to chronic fatigue syndrome, which is a really strange and interesting disease that has like no biomarker like they can't find any physical thing in the blood but it is so like it's a nightmare scenario where you like are you know people a lot of doctors are like you're it's just in your head and yeah like more and more they've been able to get rid of that stigma and been like no it's just in your head and yeah like more and more they've been able to get rid
Starting point is 00:41:25 of that stigma and been like no it's actually like they were talking to this one 16 year old who can only sit up in bed for like two hours a day and when he sits up like when he's lying down his uh heart rate is 65 uh or in the 60s and when he sat up it goes to 135 like it's god that is insane yeah brian gumbel just did a really good piece on this uh for real sports of brian gumbel on hbo uh where he interviewed athletes who had gotten covid most of them were like college age athletes like on their track team so we got covid so she had all the like base symptoms, like couldn't smell anything, like achy, feverish sort of symptoms. It was out for two weeks. She got up. She was like, oh, I feel better. I'm going to go for a run this morning. She's like 200 meters out of her door
Starting point is 00:42:16 and was like ready to collapse and just couldn't do it. And it's been something like three or four months and she still can't go for like a regular run. It's just wild the havoc this can wreak on bodies, especially like perfectly healthy bodies. I think, you know, for pre-existing conditions, there's a lot of thought of like, okay, well, obviously that's going to take some extra effort. But it's perfectly healthy human beings that are just being like knocked over by this disease. It's wild to think some people are still like, it's flu like bro it's not right like after a bender of like ice cream and pizza for a week that a college track athlete is healthier than i have been on my healthiest day in the history of my life like so that is my biggest fear about starting to work out like totally my biggest fear about like deciding to like overhaul my life and go
Starting point is 00:43:12 completely you know have a healthy lifestyle is that like i'll be stricken with something and i'll be like you know what i should have never started i should have just lived up the last few years i decided to get all buff look good yeah now i'm saying i can't do nothing and i should have just been eating hamburgers the whole time same shit yeah that's my big fear yeah it really does seem somewhat random there's also and i i have no reason to believe this is uh connected other than that they reminded me of each other but just anecdotally i feel tired constantly i know yes i know so many people who feel tired constantly i don't know if that is um you know just the fact that we don't like i definitely feel less tired if
Starting point is 00:44:00 i go somewhere during the day so maybe it's just like that. We're in the, like I do exercise, I run, but I am running, you know, 30 feet from where I'm sitting right now on a treadmill. Uh, I'm like,
Starting point is 00:44:14 yeah, it's just different. Cause like the, the, the fatigue you're talking about is like the, it's, it's like a, almost a psychosomatic fatigue where it's not really about the overall health of your
Starting point is 00:44:26 body it's more about you know the fact that you're stuck inside during a you know a mass pandemic and and it's very depressing and you're just like you know in this little you know hamster cage and we're like i guess i'll spin on the wheel like you know the hamster might be physically healthy but he's still sad yeah and people at home can't see that i am drinking from one of those upside down drip bottle things that they have in hamster cages uh so that probably sitting on a bunch of wood chip if anybody's dealt with the exhaustion and has like ideas uh all ears you know where to find me oh i have an idea for you though i mean okay how often do you go outside uh and like do activities oh not that often what is it february uh probably yeah no i i do go outside with my kids and like take walks and stuff okay well so you're probably fine then but i as someone who was spending months and months and months inside and like every time
Starting point is 00:45:35 thinking about like going out i was just like ah it's always got to be at the like park and and and it's always like you know i'm just walking around and i'm just like it's just it wasn't fulfilling and then i discovered the game of golf and i tell you guys golf i get it now i get it yeah golf you go and there's like any all the people are far away from you everyone who's playing at the hole in front of you, they're, you know, 100, 200, 300 yards away. The people behind you, another 200, 300 yards. And you're just alone and you're just playing golf. You're bad at it.
Starting point is 00:46:15 And people behind you are mad because you're like taking a lot of time. But you're free, dog. You're free. You're out there. You're breathing the good air. It's like it's a good covid relaxation sport you get outside you get a little physical exercise and you don't feel like you're that hamster on the wheel so play golf okay yeah it's they do have the they do have all the best
Starting point is 00:46:39 spots in la they've just been like okay these are golf courses now. Everybody can go fuck themselves except people who golf. Yeah, but now you can be someone who golfs. And I tell you, you feel bad for the first few times doing it because you're like, oh, this is what my life has become. I'm a douchebag. But then after a while, you start to own the douchiness of it. And then it's not so bad.
Starting point is 00:47:01 Yeah, I would be going around on one of those scooter things. Yeah, golf carts carts from hole to hole that's like half the fun like a standing job segway tear up the golf course as you go gonna be so mad at you
Starting point is 00:47:17 just all your grass you're just on a segway in a golf course take a segway back and forth to the golf to the golf to the golf cart. I don't want to do any physical exercise. The world is reacting
Starting point is 00:47:37 to the fact that Jeff Bezos is stepping down as Amazon CEO to become vice chair, which is another position that allows him to do the same thing he's been doing. I really need someone to explain to me. I've read the articles about this, and I cannot figure out why anyone should give a shit about this at all.
Starting point is 00:48:06 cannot figure out why anyone should give a shit about this at all but people it's just it just seems like an opportunity for the mainstream media to write articles that reinforce the sort of pro billionaire propaganda like it's all like he started amazon in a garage in washington state uh you know a mere 20 years ago. And it's like, well, he was also a wall street guy who then did that. Like he, he rented out a garage probably for a lot of money and like outfitted it with an orange couch because he heard that's what you're supposed to do at
Starting point is 00:48:36 startups. And like, but he's, but people don't think of garage like that. Like when they, when he, I, whenever I hear that narrative spun, it's always he started it in his garage.
Starting point is 00:48:49 So people were thinking like a two-car garage. And he was like, Amazon.com. Baby, roll the garage down. Like it was a fucking Nirvana or something. Yeah. I don't know. It just ties into the overall myth of American capitalism that there's like these individual great man accomplishments and not that this is the inevitable consequence of a system that doesn't defend against monopoly. And like one person is going to get that successful.
Starting point is 00:49:27 And like, it's funny, even this Wall Street Journal article, it's like, with a day one philosophy of always maintaining an underdog startup ethos. However, in recent years, Mr. Bezos has stepped back from day-to-day management. He doesn't set scheduled meetings before 10 a.m. and makes all his tough decisions before 5 p.m. Employees say the billionaire is elusive. That's how they describe it, with many saying they have never spotted him on the company sprawling downtown Seattle campus. So he doesn't show up to work or works between 10 and 5 which are things that would cause somebody to get immediately fired uh from an amazon warehouse job right well also he could fucking solve world hunger today like i just the the like discussing the like ins and outs of his day-to-day i feel
Starting point is 00:50:19 like it's just like glorifying some like you know innocuous like who gives a shit what he does at what time he could fucking solve world of hunger he could help people but he is not he fucking destroyed seattle and he's like just i don't know i just and and the way that these stories are framed uh of like the whatever the like he's just a startup guy who like worked really hard and hustled his way to the top and it's it just like implies that he has somehow earned all of this when it's like we know that that's not true like it's just exploiting people and that he's killing yeah and he's responsible for many deaths that they cover up all the time the amazon warehouses are an ocean nightmare.
Starting point is 00:51:06 Like, and they just hide it. They don't make reports. There's been so much. If you just one quick Google away, you can find out. And that's why I hated when all that negative press came out about Amazon during the pandemic. They made all these weird commercials where they basically were like holding people at gunpoint. Like, I love Amazon. They treat me so good here. commercials where they basically were like holding people at gunpoint like i love amazon they treat me so good here jeff bezos is like a father to me i like what is happening those were
Starting point is 00:51:32 so weird and also yeah and everywhere yeah everywhere and if we haven't learned anything from the game stop thing is that the game is fucking rigged look at what happened when all the little everyday average joe people got their hands on some stocks that was being shorted all of a sudden your app doesn't work and you can't trade at all because it was never built for you to be a millionaire you're not going to be able to work hard or make trades and be a millionaire because there's already millionaires and billionaires who are going to make sure you cannot get to that level because that's how they stay rich so i'm like i'm still praying for game stock they in my's how they stay rich so i'm like i'm still praying for game stock they in my prayers like they on the sick and shut in i'm like please
Starting point is 00:52:08 please y'all hold the line don't sell them stocks so that we can just i want to ruin all the hedge funds i know we're gonna end up paying for it in our tax dollars but i just want to see it happen i feel like that one's already been is already being sunset to like this is what happens when you go against the big guy and like being covered as like the GameStop thing was folly but it's like but also keep hustling everybody this could be you
Starting point is 00:52:36 and it's like no it couldn't it's been made exceedingly clear that it fucking couldn't be us I think we all need to just look at that and realize like that is the perfect example of like you cannot be a billionaire because billionaires will not let you right right the the thing of specifically trying to reinforce the underdog myth um which is is the main motif that gets reasserted over and over again in these articles about him retiring um really like it really seems like it's uh the war department thing again like i taught for shorthand i i talk about how
Starting point is 00:53:14 the u.s military changed its uh name from war department to department of defense once they started waging offensive wars because you like do that you change the name to be the opposite of the truth so that you can like kind of cover up for it and like with trying to portray billionaires as underdog stories like the when people look at how billionaires make their fortune it's always the opposite of that. It's always they find an advantage over someone who's smaller or has less resources than them and just exploit the shit out of that until they have billions of dollars. That's the only way to become a billionaire, is by being a predatory capitalist who preys on less powerful dynamics, basically. But because we don't like the idea that that is the secret to capitalism,
Starting point is 00:54:12 we tell ourselves over and over again and pay the Wall Street Journal to tell us over and over again that it's all Disney movies where the underdog came up. Yeah, it's just like, I don't know. And it's weird because I feel like it's kind of unspoken that most people recognize that it is like a false narrative, but it hasn't stopped it from being pushed over and over and over. Yeah, I think it's, I do wonder if we're like moving in that direction, but it does seem like it's, you know, you wouldn't know it from reading like the mainstream accounts of Jeff Bezos and the way that people.
Starting point is 00:54:55 So it's like a question of like, well, how many of these papers does Jeff Bezos own? You know, it goes all the way to the top there. Yeah. So this diet love pass story is one that it's a staple of the conspiracy theory community. like I think over a decade ago on Cracked that was basically big, famous unsolved mysteries that totally have solutions. And so here, I'll tell you what the mystery is since you're not familiar with it. Yeah, yeah. So 10 members of this- This is a real thing? This is a real thing.
Starting point is 00:55:43 Okay. The way you started off, it sounded like a weird fucking like riddle so it was a stormy night and so 10 members of like a polytechnic institute like a scientific college nine students and one sports instructor uh who had fought in world war two headed up into the frigid wilderness. This is like 1959. One student with joint pain turned back, and the rest, led by a 23-year-old engineering student, continued on.
Starting point is 00:56:19 There's camera film, personal diaries later found on the scene that makes it clear they made camp on February 1st, pitching a large tent on the snowy slopes of a mountain i'm not going to try to pronounce uh probably not one you're uh intimately familiar with but the name can be interpreted as dead mountain in the language of the region's indigenous mansi people uh so when a search team arrived a few weeks later because they just nobody ever heard from them again the other guy made it back the other guy made it back and he never heard from them again like none of the uh planned you know rendezvous uh happened uh their tent was found barely sticking out of the snow uh it appeared to be cut open from the inside. The next day, the first of the bodies
Starting point is 00:57:06 were found near a cedar tree. Over the next few months, as the snow thawed, they gradually uncovered just all sorts of creepy bodies. All nine of the team members' bodies were scattered around the mountain slope, some in a baffling state of undress.
Starting point is 00:57:22 They were half naked. Some of their skulls and chests had been smashed open. Others had eyes and one lacked a tongue. Others had eyes missing and one lacked a tongue. And yeah, people were like, this doesn't make any sense. There was also like radiation on one of the bodies. And so people like the official explanation from the Soviet bureaucracy bureaucracy was quote unknown natural
Starting point is 00:57:47 force and so that like it's it's impossible not to be into this as like a somebody who's open to conspiracy theories right because it could be anything it's like yeah it could be anything monsters yetis whatever so back when we wrote about it we pointed out that it made sense as an avalanche and just kind of some of the more inexplicable details like the radiation isn't actually that uncommon for anything that's been laying in a snowy area that gets a lot of sun because snow is a tremendous reflector of the sun's energy. The missing eyes and tongue are pretty common with bodies left in the wilderness for a long time since animals go for the soft parts first. And the various states of undress are pretty common for anybody suffering from hypothermia. And the theory being that they ran out of
Starting point is 00:58:46 their tent when an avalanche they heard an avalanche coming at night uh and the tent and all their stuff was buried and so they uh died of hypothermia people will as they're dying of hypothermia feel hot and like take off some of their clothes um oh shit yeah that's oh because your shit's just so fine you're just delirious yeah oh my god so the but people there there was a lot of like pushback on that theory uh not just that that was like one of the more common explanations and we just pointed out that it made a lot of sense uh in ways that conspiracy theorists were pushing back like my first thing was like yeah probably like if they're scattered everywhere too like who knows if even the avalanche took some people yeah so there was no snowfall on the night that the
Starting point is 00:59:36 avalanche would have happened and usually you need snowfall to add weight to the snow burden that triggers the collapse most of the blunt force trauma like injuries and some of the soft tissue damage were atypical of things caused by avalanches um where usually people mostly asphyxiate uh and then if an avalanche had occurred uh oh there's this thing about like a gap of nine hours between when they made camp and when the avalanche happened i think it assumes that they would have caused the avalanche because they're like cutting into the side of the mountain to make camp and that's usually how those things happen and yet it happened nine hours later um so this new study basically just takes those down point by point.
Starting point is 01:00:25 Um, I think the most interesting way it's taken down is that the idea that there's, did I mention the fact that people say it wasn't a steep enough hill that they were camped on? Oh, so they're saying it was even too flat for an avalanche? It was too flat for an avalanche is one of the things they're saying, but that's actually a optical illusion that you see. Have you ever heard of places where they say water flows uphill and it's like this mystery of a place where gravity doesn't operate
Starting point is 01:00:57 or gravity is weird? Like you drop a stone and it kind of falls to the side? Hell yeah, dude. Every year at Burning Man. falls to the side oh yeah every year at burning man so all of uh that that actually is a thing that happens like basically you're at a place that a chunk of flat ground that is actually on a portion of ground that's embedded with within a larger slope so even though all your sort of uh context clues point to the fact that you're on flat ground you're actually on a slope and that's oh what was happening here they say that this piece of land
Starting point is 01:01:34 when you go and study it has uh at least the 30 percent grade needed to trigger avalanches there wasn't snowfall but there was massive wind uh but one of the reasons this is like kind of a fun story that i think might actually like become popular enough to put an end to this is that they used frozen the disney movie to uh figure this out wait like like uh clues from the film yeah revealed the Revealed the truth. Yeah. So one of the scientists who is basically created this paper with the official explanation back when Frozen came out was like, holy shit, they have absolutely nailed the way Snow falls and is blown away and is like actually behaves and so he actually traveled to hollywood and met with the 3d modeling company that created the snow for frozen and like got a better idea of
Starting point is 01:02:34 how snow behaves and like used their algorithms that they used on frozen to better inform his algorithms of just like how snow operates. Holy shit. And then they also consulted these old GM studies that they had done with a bunch of cadavers like back when people weren't paying as much attention.
Starting point is 01:02:56 GM took a hundred dead bodies and just like threw heavy shit at them and just like studied the way that the bodies were destroyed. Were 14 year olds in charge of that i know right yeah we just smash them up and we're like oh and so yeah it's bad it's bad so looking at that study data they basically found that uh the injuries were pretty consistent with what you would have seen if there was a like SUV style chunk of hard snow or ice inside of the avalanche, which is hitting you.
Starting point is 01:03:34 Right. Yeah. So they think the avalanche hit them. They were camped at a pretty like when you look at where their beds were, they were actually like dug into the snow in a way that they were pretty well supported so when the thing hit them uh they were uh pre-demolished but probably didn't die and then their camp mates like dragged them out to safety and then went downhill yeah all went downhill from there um but it's a wild story uh and i don't know i do think that this is is the explanation i don't think there's been yeah yeti uh alien explanation yeti gang where you at come on rebut this terrible study yeti oh they're going to uh they yeah i am making a lot of enemies as reasonable as this might sound.
Starting point is 01:04:25 I'm going to be what's in big trouble with the community. People like a sexier Yeti explanation. That's right. Come on. Yeah, dude. Watch. They're going to be like, well, if they use Frozen, we will use the modeling of the child's film Abominable to then prove our Yeti theory. It's like, well, no no that's not what they did
Starting point is 01:04:45 it wasn't just because there was a movie that that reinforced their argument but go at it yeti gang i'd love to see it yeah they probably will use the fact that oh because frozen okay yeah yeah what did a nice monster do it that elsa had created right that's where it's that's where you realize too like you don't get don't get in arguments with conspiracy theorists yeah because if you're not on the same page then nothing you're saying is real and there will be it's like i don't even know how you reverse engineer common ground at that point we're like all right well where can we agree what's no right can we agree that that's frozen like a water that's very in a solid state?
Starting point is 01:05:26 Okay, okay, moving on. What's Russia? And then it all falls apart. Like an experimental ground for the governments of the world to create new bio-organisms that just terrorize the Earth? Wait, bro, you think Russia exists? Come on, man. Right, and you're like, oh, Jesus. Now who's naive?
Starting point is 01:05:42 Dude, did you say Russia? Like what? Let's take a quick break and we'll be right back. When you think of Mexican culture, you think of avocado, mariachi, delicious cuisine, and of course, lucha libre. It doesn't get more Mexican than this. Lucha Libre is known globally because it is much more than just a sport and much more than just entertainment. Lucha Libre is a type of storytelling. It's a dance.
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Starting point is 01:06:43 This is Lucha Libre Behind the Mask. Listen to Lucha Libre Behind the Mask as part of My Cultura Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you stream podcasts. In 1982, Atari players had one thing on their minds, Sword Quest. This wasn't just a new game. Atari promised $150,000 in prizes to four finalists. But the prizes disappeared. And what started as a video game promotion became one of the most controversial moments in 80s pop culture. I just don't believe they exist. I mean,
Starting point is 01:07:18 my reaction, shock and awe. That sword was amazing. It was so beautiful. I'm Jamie Loftus. Join me this spring for The Legend of Sword Quest, a podcast about the fall of Atari and the disappearing Sword Quest prizes. We'll follow the quest for lost treasure across four decades. It's almost like a metaphor for the industry and Atari itself in a way. Listen to The Legend of Sword Quest on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Bruce Bozzi.
Starting point is 01:07:51 On my podcast, Table for Two, we have unforgettable lunch after unforgettable lunch with the best guest you could possibly ask for. People like Matt Bomer. Thank you for that introduction. I'm going to slip you
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Starting point is 01:08:55 was the target of two assassination attempts separated by two months. These events were mirrored nearly 50 years ago when President Gerald Ford faced two attempts on his life in less than three weeks. President Gerald R. Ford came stunningly close to being the victim of an assassin today. And these are the only two times we know of that a woman has tried to assassinate a U.S. president. One was the protege of infamous cult leader Charles Manson. I always felt like Lynette was kind of his right-hand woman.
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Starting point is 01:09:56 Nancy Pelosi told me about this new treat that she is stocking in her fridge. In your Telegram channel called lit freezers yeah uh jenny's uh which is what nancy pelosi had her fridge stocked with it's like uh 14 a pint ice cream um it's nine jack don't get ahead of yourself all right all right uh i don't get ahead of yourself I don't know I think it's like 12 maybe You guys are just like Nancy Pelosi you have no idea How much a pint of ice cream actually costs I don't know $43 So out of touch
Starting point is 01:10:34 How much is a banana Did you guys read there was that interview with Billie Eilish The other day where she was like I don't know how much cereal Costs so I ordered like what I thought was a box of cereal and it was like 50 boxes of cereal she thought a cereal a box of cereal was like 50 dollars yeah she doesn't know fucking billy no you're too young she probably doesn't even know what that means because she's rich for so long it's like combination of like you're a teenager who maybe doesn't buy your own groceries
Starting point is 01:11:06 and now you're incredibly rich and have no idea how much things cost. She completely skipped that phase of life where you have like a little bit of money that you've earned and you try and go out to eat with your friends. Right. That's a very formative period. So if you go straight from, I don't know,
Starting point is 01:11:23 every time I go, my parents pay for everything to, I don't know my accountant. I have a card to my accountant gave me. And I just, I wave that at whatever. You don't have to choose between like seeing the movie and having dinner. Exactly. Or be like,
Starting point is 01:11:36 all right, fuck it. Let's, let's, let's figure out what you got a calculator or just do it on paper with the tax. Okay. So we'll get nachos and then a quesadilla,
Starting point is 01:11:44 and then we'll all have enough to go in the movie and then maybe split a smoothie at the end. Okay, so we'll get nachos and then a quesadilla and then we'll all have enough to go in the movie and then maybe split a smoothie at the end. Okay. There's also that point where you're growing out of like being young enough
Starting point is 01:11:54 where it's still kind of cute that you don't know stuff. Right, right. Which is why it's not cute that Nancy Pelosi doesn't know. Right. It's a bad look to have 500 uh pints of really expensive ice cream in your fridge and people are starving and you're like how much is a
Starting point is 01:12:13 vial of insulin nancy i don't know she's like i don't know like three pints of ice creams yeah exactly but yeah so this boutique creamery jenny's it not really boutique. It's a chain now, right? Huge now they're huge, but, uh, they dropped a flavor, everything bagel. And I don't know if it was viral marketing or whatever, but they call it violent marketing.
Starting point is 01:12:37 They had, uh, somebody who I follow and trust on social was like, I don't know how it's this good, but it is. And I was like, well, that's enough for me. Yeah. I don't know how it's this good, but it is. And I was like, well, that's enough for me.
Starting point is 01:12:46 Yeah. I'm in. I'm worried. Cause I, when I saw the thing, I'm like, get the fuck out of my face with this. Everything bagel ice cream.
Starting point is 01:12:54 My friend Goldie was like, come on, you cowards, like put locks in there. Yeah. Oh fuck. Yeah. Let's actually,
Starting point is 01:13:01 yes. I would try that, but you're going to do it. They, they, they mention how, you know the like cream cheese is like a great already stabilizer for ice creams as it is so you don't have to put in a lot of like artificial things in it so cream cheese is always like for for people who make ice cream isn't anything new um so i was like okay fine i see the logic there but like really like what's the description they say it's cream cheese ice cream with everything bagel gravel right so that means
Starting point is 01:13:31 like poppy sesame onions and garlic here's what i think yeah wait really onions and garlic yes yeah that's everything bagel everything i was just thinking like salty i mean i love everything bagels and i like a salty sweet thing but I didn't make it with garlic I'm blaming this entirely on the Trader Joe's everything bagel seasoning that came out like last year where they put all that stuff in a shaker so you could just put it on stuff and then in true Trader Joe's fashion they started just making a lot of other products that have the everything bagel bagel seasoning on it so i think kind of the idea of everything bagel there's also just kind of like a bagel boom going on for who there
Starting point is 01:14:11 you're late to the party y'all there's been no bagel boom there's i've been i've been down with the bagel boom since the 80s there's uh i just feel like anytime you make a savory ice cream flavor you're dancing with the devil did you ever go to stinking rose the garlic restaurant yeah but i did not get the garlic okay so i've had garlic ice cream before and garlic ice cream isn't bad you know it's not like something i go oh fuck get the garlic ice cream because it's going up tonight but it's one of those things you eat and you're like damn i'm actually more interested because it's going up tonight. But it's one of those things you eat and you're like, damn, I'm actually more interested because it's not bad. I honestly think there are. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:50 I mean, like if they didn't call it ice cream, I think that's the key. I think if you made like a like I thought I think about this always in the summer, like soup popsicles, like a gazpacho popsicle and like a tomato soup popsicle maybe not a clam chowder popsicle but just things like that just thinking about it but i think you have chili popsicle you gotta call it like a granita or something if you call it an ice cream like people's minds go to sweet and i feel like most of the time when people try to do savory i don't really fuck with all those artisanal ice creams that have like fucking like duck skin in them or whatever. You know, there's been a lot of that lately. Wait, there was?
Starting point is 01:15:33 Man, you gotta put me on to that stuff. Like salt and straw, all their weird ass flavors. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, things where it's like a thing you wouldn't expect in ice cream that's in ice cream. Right. And jury's out. It's bad.
Starting point is 01:15:44 There's a place in Philadelphia called Little Babies that did a pizza ice cream that's in ice cream. Right. And jury's out. It's bad. There's a place in Philadelphia called Little Babies that did a pizza ice cream. No thank you. Right? I don't want that. I respect its right to exist, but no. Okay. So it's one of those things. The idea you say no to, just like I would
Starting point is 01:15:59 say no to everything bagel ice cream. No, don't need it. But we all have this morbid fascination to try you would you not try this pizza ice cream jack i'll try anything okay i'll try anything for free right right all right then maybe what we'll do is we could all go in a couple bucks maybe we'll have zeitgang because it's expensive if every if the listeners and all of us put in a dollar we might be able to afford one of these pints. One of the everything bagel pints? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:16:26 All right. Wait, this is like related, but did you guys see the mac and cheese, the pink mac and cheese? Yeah, we talked about it last week. It made me hate mac and cheese more. By the end of talking about it, I was like, Kraft has lost its way. And it's like the QAnon aunt. You're like, I got to put you to bed now. I just feel like you could make it pink without making it sweet yeah sweet mac and cheese again but then i'm like isn't it maybe sweet mac and cheese is just kugel oh yeah a little bit i think again it's like you just have to have different
Starting point is 01:16:56 words for these things you could talk somebody into a sweet pasta you just have to not call it craft mac and cheese but it's sweet because then your mind just reels. Yeah I guess Kugel would have been better because now that you say that I'll be like well yeah okay. Because I'm pro like dessert pizza I'm pro a pizzookie. Well yeah I mean but a pizzookie is
Starting point is 01:17:17 like not mixing flavors it's just like taking the concept of pizza and putting desserts in the shape of pizza like i'm all about that but like trying to make the base of the dessert actual pasta i i right right cannot abide it uh bj's that you say that that's one of those restaurants like in my late teens that you're like yo we're going to bj's brewery with our fake ids fuck out of here and then you're like, yo, we're going to BJ's Brewery with our fake IDs. Fuck out of here. And then you're like, we don't have, we shouldn't really,
Starting point is 01:17:48 we can't really afford to drink in public. No, you can't afford the prices at any of those barcades. Those are for... The barcades scene in LA is despicable. I'm like, what? Yades scene in LA is despicable. I'm like, what?
Starting point is 01:18:09 Y'all are charging so much money for these games. Like, no. Have you been to that one spot in Hollywood? That's like the pizza, 90s pizza arcade in the before times? Oh, no, I haven't been in there. Yeah, the pizza was okay. And they were going for an aggressive 90s aesthetic that just felt a little ham-fisted for me it feels ham-fisted but then there was also that one in like down by dodger stadium yeah yeah yeah but i was like oh this is so stupid and then i was like oh no they like
Starting point is 01:18:35 exactly got all the games they nailed it well they got it's like it wasn't 80s games it was like late 80s early 90s games so it was like arcade games like you we all would have played at a pizza hut and I was like mmm they got me god damn it you bastards I think button mash is still in business too maybe I mean I can't imagine the barcade business is like very
Starting point is 01:18:56 popping right now there's one in Echo Park that closed I think I'm sure for me I did all the experimenting i needed this week when i got a peanut reese's peanut butter big cup with chunks of pretzel inside no the chips one oh chips i don't know with chips oh really the pretzel one is good as fuck oh my god uh her majesty steals them from set and brings them here uh like any good person if you have a partner who works in production they better be stealing from crafty for you and bringing it home
Starting point is 01:19:30 uh but she came home with him and she's like you'll never guess what's happened i don't know what the fuck you got a promotion and she's like i hadn't seen them but the chip one is fucking potato yeah it's like ruffles yeah yeah i will i will fuck with uh some potato chips in there as like a you know a salty accent um if you're crazy i might i might do this everything bagel ice cream you gotta do it i want to know especially because it doesn't have locks in it it it sounds like it might not even be that crazy like it'll taste like a like a cheesecake ice cream probably right the closest thing they say is like if you've had a garlic ice cream that was good or it's just like it's subtle it's there but
Starting point is 01:20:16 you're not like what the fuck it's like a frozen bagel what the fuck is this you know what i mean like it apparently has but i would do like you, I would do a sour cream ice cream. There are other, you know, there's, like, a really good avocado ice cream, the Filipino ice cream. Things that you might not necessarily consider for ice cream, then you have it in ice cream. And you're like, actually, this kind of makes sense. There's only one way to find out. All right. Like, actually, this kind of makes sense. There's only one way to find out. All right.
Starting point is 01:20:53 Let's finally dig into some wholesomeness that still has a depressing news peg. So there's this guy. I don't know. Did you guys know about Captain Sir Tom Moore? No. Okay. So he is a, he was a 99 year old man who was about to turn 100 and decided to raise funds for the NHS, uh, by,
Starting point is 01:21:14 uh, trying to walk a hundred laps in his garden before his hundredth birthday. Uh, and just be like, people just really liked him. He's just like a charming ass old man to the point that he ended up like collabing with a famous pop star on a song that went to number one in the uk really yeah that's so sweet and he raised 35 million pounds for the NHS, which is like incredible. Everybody loved him.
Starting point is 01:21:48 He then got knighted. And he just passed away from COVID, which is not. Oh, he's got like a little old man mustache. Look at this guy. Yeah. This is going to be Anthony Hopkins' greatest role. It really, yeah That's so nice Like that ending, that third act
Starting point is 01:22:08 You've got coronavirus, love He goes, oh bollocks Bollocks, yeah, oh bollocks What's all this then? I bet he had This whole story, I'm like Even if they make it up This guy has some profound last words.
Starting point is 01:22:26 Everyone's going to be sobbing. Oh, for sure. Wow. Yeah, he spent his final hours with his kids, like reminiscing about their mom who passed away. And yeah, just seems generally like an awesome dude. What a nice palate cleanser from all the other stories. Yeah. Shout out to him.
Starting point is 01:22:48 Shout out to the UK for giving us something to believe in. Wow. Yeah. That really speaks to where we're at, where our new thing to believe in is a recently deceased very old man. Yeah. A recently deceased 100-year-old British army man.
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