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Zeitgeist. These are some of our favorite segments from this week, all edited together into one nonstop infotainment laughstravaganza.
So without further ado, here is the weekly zeitgeist.
Miles, great to have you back.
Great to see you.
Thank you for having me.
to see you um and thank you for having me uh we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by the hilarious the talented mr vince mancini there he is oh great to be here you know marvin just it's
like a really good cousin name i feel yeah yeah oh yeah marv cousin marvin right and then marvin
gets his head blown off in Pulp Fiction.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
It's an unfortunate name too sometimes.
It's like you're never, where's the hero Marvin?
The Martian?
I mean, you know, maybe.
It just sounds like a roustabout.
Oh, it's Marvin.
Here he comes.
Right, right, right.
Oh, man.
Do you think that scene had rewrites where the marvin barry scene like first they
tried to be like why don't we just do subtle like hey chuck it's me you know that sound you've been
looking for well here it is and you'll be like wait well that's that was a chuck barry song
they said chuck that's enough or did they go it's it's gotta be marvin well the fact that he says Marvin Marvin Barry like it's if he had just said it's
your cousin Marvin Barry that would have been one thing but or your cousin plus first name right
yeah but then you wouldn't know the Chuck Berry thing uh right right I just I'm thinking also
the reality of how you would speak you know it's like the the delicate interplay of what's real and
how you get the message across to the audience because I'm never know, it's like the delicate interplay of what's real and how you get the message
across to the audience.
Because I'm never like, hey, it's your cousin, bro.
Your cousin, Miles.
Miles Gray.
Unless it's like an elderly cousin
who maybe is struggling with memory.
Especially if it's one of your cousins
with the same last name as you.
Exactly.
Well, it implies that Chuck Berry
has a lot of cousins that are always
trying to sell him on stuff
and pitching different things. Yeah, that's true. That's the are always trying to sell him on stuff and pitch him different things.
Yeah, that's true.
Right, right.
That's the movie I want to see, the unscrupulous Berry cousins.
All right.
Vince, what's...
All right, let's not get that.
I was just going to say, I feel like this is the process of figuring out that all my
favorite movies are made for children and i'm a
40 year old man but uh vince what's new with you what's going on man oh not much just uh you know
i had a birthday yesterday and whoa hbd yeah hbd it's it's great it's great to have a birthday
and now it's over and uh i can just enjoy the rest of the year.
Oh, so for you, you're like one of these lucky motherfuckers who had a birthday before the pandemic.
And now it's only biting you in the ass now.
Because last year you probably had a whole ass birthday, right?
Yeah, last year.
I can't remember.
I'm old enough that I don't remember exactly what we did on my birthday last year.
But I think it was good.
Yeah.
Right, right.
Oh, man.
Yeah.
Pandemic birthday is underrated.
Will the pandemic be over for my birthday?
You know, because that was a thing in the summer.
I feel like a lot of people were thinking about for the fall.
They're like, dude, is the pandemic still happening for my birthday?
I mean, not that you think like that, but I think it enters everyone's mind as a goalpost in time.
Yeah.
I mean, you're like
ah it's gonna be over by memorial day so we can go out and have have a proper three-day weekend
yeah i've talked to you miles specifically about how i think that the pandemic is specifically
a punishment for me uh for because i have a july birthday and like you couldn't have really
made it any more central yeah Yeah. So, you know.
And for all the blaming of like Trump and his policies, let's not get carried away.
I think this whole pandemic was based on some kind of karmic spite against Jack.
Yeah.
And that's why we're all suffering.
Yeah.
I mean, it's why I'm always shouting when we're not recording, why do bad things happen to good people?
It's not fair. As you that nancy kerrigan tape over
why uh all right that's underrated strange reaction to that like who does that happen to
it's not just like ow my leg go get that person but why me why couldn't this happen to someone
me oh man poor thing that was one of the first times i made an adult laugh uh was right around I couldn't let this happen to someone else. Why me? Oh, man. Poor thing.
That was one of the first times I made an adult laugh was right around that time.
I think it was, what, 93, right?
Yeah.
And I was in third grade.
And someone, there was, like, one of the kids in class, someone was crying about, like,
they got in trouble and they had to, like, you know, you do, like, red light, green light shit.
Oh, that's a red light.
And this girl was, like, why? Why me? why me and i was like okay nancy kerrigan and my teacher was like got it
and no none of the kids understood and only my the teacher understood and i was like i'm the
fucking goat jay richard prior this elementary school. It's your cousin, Marvin Leno.
Have I got the joke writer for you?
Hey, what are you, Nancy Kerrigan?
Oh!
Smoking the ciggy around my head like Diceman.
What is something you think is underrated, Anna?
Thank you for asking.
I have been watching Bachelor in Paradise Australia.
As you guys know, I love to watch every Bachelor on every continent.
I'm not doing well.
But other than that, like, I, oh, my God.
You guys, first of all, how many tattooeded long-haired men can you fit on an island
in fiji thousands thousands oh my gosh every part of their body is tattooed except for their
beautiful beautiful faces and you know what i love it bachelor in paradise australia is
first they film it in fiji so much more beautiful than the I don't know why but
like maybe it's because I've seen the Bachelor in Paradise America one enough times that like
Sayulita the resort they go to in Mexico isn't like that alluring to me anymore but like the
Fiji location oh my gosh it's gorgeous yeah the tattoo I mean you were sending our group thread
your screenshots of the tatted folks t tatted gentlemen of the Australian Bachelor.
And it's like everyone has a chest piece.
It's like that was the one thing I'm like, OK, so to be in Australia right now, you got to have the wild chest piece.
Australian Zeitgang, let me know if I had to do it.
What's the Aussie Aussie bro starter pack?
Because what I'm seeing here is long hair with a dodgy mustache, full chest
piece, and maybe even
thigh piece too. All over
body. One guy has full body, neck,
everything.
Except his abs.
Is he the one whose abs are
a different color? It's all like a
frame for his abs.
Or it's like only the things football shoulder
pads would cover.
Is what the tattoo is. I looked at that and I was like, for his abs. Right. Or it's like only the things football shoulder pads would cover. Yeah.
Yeah.
Is what the tattoo is.
I looked at that
and I was like,
what is happening here?
That guy also showed up
naked to the island
with just some grapes
over his crotch.
Oh, that's what that is?
Yeah.
I thought he had
a horrible condition.
Walk into the island
where he's like
introducing himself
to everyone.
He's like,
ladies!
And it's such a cocky photo. This dude is tatted head to toe and himself to everyone. He's like, ladies! And it's such a cocky photo.
This dude is tatted head to toe
and he's smiling. He's like, and I'm hiding my
penis with grapes. Yeah.
And everyone's like, oh yeah, mate.
That's so him. He's totally
like that. That's him, man. That's
Kieran. Kieran's like that, mate.
He's hilarious. Oh, Kieran, love that name.
And you're like, what the fuck?
Also, I think Kieran's technically British, but... Technically. He's a transplant. He's in. Oh, Kieran, love that name. And you're like, what the fuck? Also, I think Kieran's technically British, but...
Technically.
He's a transplant.
He's in Australia now.
I don't know.
So the show is so fun.
There's a girl named Abby who doesn't like when she doesn't get what she wants.
Uh-oh.
Oh.
She's actually really scary.
I couldn't ever imagine being her friend.
I saw her in a previous series of The Bachelor Australia, and she got to number two and then got dumped.
And she was like, what?
What's the vibe of Aussie Bachelor?
Because you said NZ, Kiwi, New Zealand Bachelor is wholesome.
Like, it's an open space for sensitive people to be honest and open in like a very safe
space constructive way to talk and yeah i remember all you would text me like i can't believe how
these men are talking to each other and like how open this is and it's so different what's the vibe
of aussie bachelor versus you know what i know of the u.s bachelor and what you've described of
kiwi bachelor i think it's funny like like, New Zealand Bachelorette,
like, how progressive and cool and, like, together it was
and, like, compared to, like, what New Zealand is like,
which is, like, progressive and cool and together.
Yeah, shocking.
And our shit show of The Bachelor now.
Right.
Yeah.
Australia, it's, like, very, it's very, like, extreme sports driven.
Like, everyone's like, oh, yeah, girl, you got to jump off a plane if you love me.
Everyone's just like, oh, and today we're going to go jump off cliffs.
We don't even know what's on the bottom.
Do you love me?
It's like that level where you're like, oh, no.
You don't have to risk your life to prove you love this dude.
Speak for yourself.
My wife demonstrates her she's like jack unless
you jump out of this plane even though you're absolutely terrified of heights and you're
passing out that's actually one season of the bachelor australia one of the girls was so scared
of heights and they did like a group like all the women and the bachelor which jumped out of the
plane she was like that person who's like oh my god like passing out out of fear coming back like what's going on oh my god oh my god and like
passing out again like that and then nothing's a turn off girl girl you got this girl and then
one girl's like wow good for her she's freaking out so much she's getting all the bachelor's
attention it's like i think she's actually experiencing like real like trauma that might
fuck her up for the rest of her life but yeah no sure i'm sure this is worth it for her to get like
two minutes of the bachelor being like don't you love me jump right anyway isn't it like a vasal
vagal response yeah yeah yeah i think she was truly not doing well um she went home soon after
that i don't know i think she was like almost relieved to go home like she's like right like please don't give me a rose as well to hear
that on her behalf they're like subjecting her to regular passing out yeah but there are like
the one woman abby who does is not used to not getting what she wants her ability to like
turn like her her ability to use her sexuality to get what she needs is the most it's truly like we have
to study her it's unbelievable what she can do like she'll be like yeah it's like no one wants
to give me a rose every guy's like i'll give you my rose and then she's like all of a sudden has a
guy and she's like naked and like i know you want like it's just oh my god who has it like
who are you you know like jessica rabbit the real human yes yes that's a perfect example
she's unbelievable even i'm like whoa she's hot then Then I'm like, no, she's evil. She's manipulative.
What am I doing?
Why am I falling for her?
There's blood coming out of my tear duct.
No, she really is unbelievable.
And her abilities, I am like, I could never.
I truly don't even know.
If I tried to walk seductively, I would die, maybe.
Well, we need science to bottle that up.
Yeah, sell it to us.
Bottle it up and then resell it to us
at an unbelievable margin.
There is a real deep dive on Medium
about the ice cream company Ample Hills.
Are you guys familiar with the fancy ice cream company
from Brooklyn, Ample Hills?
Ample Hills?
Sounds like a porn.
Ample Hills.
It does sound like a porn from Ample Hills. It does sound like
a porn from the
40s. Like a cottagecore porn.
Right, like written by a farmer.
Oh, yeah.
Ample Hills. And her
Ample Hills.
Yeah, so what's the deal with that?
I feel like this is just
such a
of the moment trend that we will look back on and be like,
ah,
yes,
that was a very 2021 story.
Uh,
you did say they were a 2018 Indy ice cream shop from Brooklyn.
So yeah,
this is already very dated.
Right.
They,
so they just basically crashed and burned.
They overextended,
became friends with Bob Iger and,
uh,
Orpa, uh, otherwise known as Oprah.
Well, Bob Iger and Oprah became fans and they expanded to LA, then Disney World, started becoming obsessed with things like Square Pints, which they called Squints.
Stop.
Once again, guys, you don't need to do that.
We have writers.
We have writers, so many writers who can... Also, how do you write that without it looking like squints?
Yeah, it does look like squints.
And maybe...
With an accent mark, it's squint, guys.
It's squint.
Right.
They created Disney-licensed flavors with watercolor art and bankruptcy followed
quickly um they also just to make it fully uh just a fail uh a failed venture of the moment
they also have a podcast now um do they still have the podcast even though they're bankrupt
yeah do they have a patreon have the podcast even though they're bankrupt? Yeah. Do they have a Patreon? You can keep the podcast.
Yeah.
Podcasts are a lot cheaper than ice cream.
Talking about ice cream?
Like, y'all, look.
I know in 2020, everybody was like, I don't know.
We stuck at home.
I shot into the void.
I'm making a podcast.
But a podcast about ice cream?
Wendy's has a podcast.
I can't.
I'm looking at Ample Hills right now. And I i will say this i think that 2020 killed ample hills i think that if they had had a time
and place where we were all free then this would have worked they would have been at coachella
giving the girls you know watercolor creams it's very coachella moments yeah they would have a tie
dye flavor by now yeah everyone would have a mini ripper 10 photo
by now with the ice cream cone melting in their hand and it would be getting cute they would also
be wearing an afro regardless of rice and they could have had that and i'm sorry that 2020 killed
them ample hills because that's what did it right but you know what? Sometimes businesses deserve to die. Yeah. I will say this. They did expand quickly with Oprah's influence and stuff.
But for a long time, like ever since the Oprah show and she used to do Oprah's favorite things, after the first couple of years, they would demand that if you wanted to be in Oprah's list or if you wanted to be in Oprah's company, that you had to expand.
Because what would happen was is she would talk about a product
and then everyone would want to go buy it and it would be gone.
So I wouldn't be surprised if they were like,
oh, we're working with Oprah now.
Let's open all the ice cream stores, y'all.
Get the scopers.
Yeah.
Right.
They didn't really have any other choice
because when Oprah mentioned something,
it just immediately sells out for a decade.
But that's really amazing that she demanded that instead of, I'll recommend your product to my fans and then they'll buy you out to the point where you're sold out, that she would instead demand that they expand.
That's very interesting. Yeah, because she didn't want to put a bunch of companies
out of business or break them.
Well, I mean, if you sell out, you can just make more.
Yeah, I guess that's true.
That's a business that's performing very well.
Selling out is kind of the goal.
Yeah, but it was like the fan base
because her reach would be so large.
Because she made Javiama's pop.
She made Greensburg Turkey's pop.
Like she was like, y'all better get out there and start killing more turkeys.
That was her?
Mm-hmm.
She was like, this is my favorite flip-flop.
And then everyone was like, everybody got their toes in those.
Javiama's.
Yep.
I never knew what that was before her.
Like she turned a lot of businesses out
and this whole time I've been calling them
Havainas
you might be right
I've been calling them Havaina the whole time I don't know I'm not
looking at your foot to read what's on
there you better look at the labels
on my foot I spend good money on these
Havaina
Havaina
poor Ample Hills another R rip to the pandemic pour out some melted ice cream for ample hills
but check out their podcast um all right jack i will
that's a lie uh i don't think anyone will. No, it's so true, Jack.
It's so true.
What is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are?
I searched ET hoodie because I was scrolling through some old friends on Instagram,
and we were passing around in the group chat.
You know when you got a friend that you don't talk to but mostly
you just make fun of them in group
chats with other people? Yeah, they're
group chat fodder. Their Instagram is
group chat fodder. Yep, I have somebody who
has a real brolic doll collection
and a lonely doctor
who we always speculate
what their life's about.
Yeah, so I got one of those and there was like one
of those real uh
you know vague book we call them vague books i forget one which one of my comedian friends
came up with that whenever people are sad and they just uh like write vague platitudes
vague vague booking and they're in like a they're in a blanket looking very uh
forlorn and it reminded me of et and i was trying to find the et picture
to compare it to and then i googled et hoodie only to realize that et wasn't wearing a hoodie
it was actually just like his blanket blanket warm yeah yeah i'd like mandela affected myself i think
yeah i hope that friend heard this podcast like dude it's start et was wearing a fucking hoodie so did you picture in your mind
et wearing the red hoodie that elliot wears you did exactly that's exactly what i did well i yeah
yeah i did yeah i'm trying to picture that right now huh et hoodie is like a whole vibe though
like if et rocked a hoodie you know what i mean like with his hands in the pockets what's up with him yeah uh selling molly
and shit yeah whereas the uh you can pull off the red hoodie you cannot pull off the
blanket wrapped around your head and then like tied at your chest without people being like
yo man is everything is everything all right yeah because remember there's even that tweet that we
liked i was like yo i took my kid brother to target and it was just like a little kid in a big ass down coat and it just
looked like a coat was walking around oh yeah even that shape was less suspicious to me i'm
a kid in a coat but yes because that could have been et and i wouldn't have batted an eye because
i'm used to that but some kid in a blanket like that i'm like yeah yeah some kind of terrestrial
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and we're back speaking of the other side of a story this story that kind of hit yesterday morning all right tmz is reporting that two of lady gaga's three dogs were kidnapped
and her dog walker during the course of this armed robbery
was shot four times one of her one of her dogs was as Ana Hosnia said was just like not today
Satan and just sprinted away got away so shout out to that yeah uh no they uh there's a photograph
of her bodyguard walking back found found the dog walking it back to the house um by the way the
so lady gaga is in rome working on a movie right now so the fact that her bodyguard was photographed
carrying the dog back suggests that that bodyguards in la looking after the dogs essentially and he fucking you managed to you had one job my man uh yeah but so the one of
the aspects of the story is lady gaga is offering five hundred thousand dollars no questions asked
to whoever has her dogs which um is bananas because whoever has her dogs shot her dog walker four times.
Yeah.
I want to say something here about this.
It's not funny.
I'm going to say that first.
Okay.
It's sad when people get shot.
Yeah.
But I am going to probably make a couple jokes about it.
So just bear with me, please.
Anyway, he released an email address for you to send in tips on the whereabouts of the dogs.
And I am just imagining all the dick pics somebody's going to have to comb through before they get to even one real clue about the whereabouts of these poor dogs.
I mean, yeah, like, it's so weird that, first of all,
like Lady Gaga would like Democrat style negotiating.
Hey, money and no questions asked.
If you just kind of work with us here,
even though you almost killed us.
So appropriate that she sang the national anthem for the Biden administration.
Like, hold on what about
five hundred thousand dollars to find out who shot her fucking dog walker you know what i mean
that's like so in the hospital their life has changed oh my god but she's just gonna be like
okay how much do they how much do you need for me to get those fridge bulldogs back i mean
because i can't live without muffie and scruff scruff i'm not i'm not really blaming her because
she's just trying to get her dogs back right the dogs are something that she loves yeah uh
and it's not going to change anything necessarily like she could still be like
find this motherfucker and prosecute them
but the fact that tmz is just like guys no questions asked it's all good like nobody's
even or she's not even thinking about like the idea that she's devaluing the life the life of
her dog walker and also the way that this just feels like the American version of,
you know,
like oligarchies and dictatorships and other countries where people are
kidnapped all the time,
like that you have to like constantly be,
uh,
thinking about the fact that,
you know,
people are going to kidnap you because there's massive,
uh,
wealth inequality,
inequality,
uh,
like this is the American version of that and the thing that everybody's reporting without even being like wait what is that she's just like
yeah okay so that's done with now just give me my dogs back please i don't know it just
feels very american to me right now yeah it's like like how people treat essential workers or companies that treat essential
workers.
You know what I mean?
This person could have died.
Right.
They were shot four times and all she wants is her dog's back.
It seems like,
I mean,
to be fair to lady Gaga,
to Stephanie,
we don't know what she's doing for the dog Walker.
Right.
Yeah.
No,
we know is all we know is the information that's out there.
Sure.
We'll find out though. Right. I hope, I hope that she's taking care of this person yes yeah it's
but it's just like it's come on the police need to arrest this person for shooting another human
on the street why you have like to jack's point right like the idea that bodyguards were even adjacent and this person still got shot it's an inside job guys
that's what it is thank you i'm going crazy there we go shawshack redemption had to throw the lob
up just need someone to throw it down reddit is losing their mind but like what but then also
it's like how are you managing like i get it when you're so fucking popping and wealthy that you can't even do normal things.
But wouldn't you want to be like, yo, my dogs are so important.
You don't even fuck around, man.
I bought this forest.
You can walk them around in.
You know what I mean?
Because I'm guessing because she doesn't live in West Hollywood.
I'm guessing that's where the dog walker lives.
So she trusts the dog walker enough to take the dogs.
But then there's a security presence near the dog.
It just seems so convoluted.
I'm trying to understand like if this is the most efficient way to ensure
that the safety of your animals,
given the budgets Stephanie has.
Probably not.
I mean,
this goes back to the,
the top shot question.
What,
how do we value things?
Right.
We value a blockchain on a video or a gif we also value french bulldogs
they're some of the most expensive dogs in the country probably in the world very hard to get
very hard to take care of all that stuff so someone thought i'm gonna go out and shoot a
motherfucker four times to take the dogs.
I don't want the jewelry.
I don't want the car.
I don't want the clothes.
I don't want the Grammys or the Oscar.
I want the dogs.
This doesn't make sense.
Why are you getting this?
That's so crazy to me that the dogs are valuable.
The dogs are worth shooting a person.
How does someone get clapped over dogs?
They just saw the movie Seven Psychopaths and they were like,
all right, this seems like a good plan, someone get clapped over dogs. They just saw the movie because they know paths and they were like,
all right,
this,
this seems like a good plan,
even though the criminals in that are like,
like,
no,
but in the mind of a person who's doing dirt,
you don't want to, uh,
you know,
I discharge a firearm in the commission of a crime.
Right.
Just,
and you don't,
you don't want to put force multipliers on your sentencing if something were to happen so like i didn't it doesn't seem like do you need to
shoot somebody to strong arm snatch some dogs away that's maybe it gets weird i know like that's i
don't know what's going like it seems there's so many levels that just seem like aggressive or that
the person knows that these are lady gaga's dogs so they gotta come
heavy and then they're gonna then demand another wilder ransom oh they definitely knew that it was
lady gaga's dogs this was yeah this was planned out for sure i just yeah it's so confusing man
i hate to be the conspiracy theory person in a time when conspiracy theories are so horribly
dangerous right but it But it's very...
Shit went left on that inside job.
You know? Because you know what the bodyguard
said? He said, you're supposed to stick to the script.
What the fuck are you doing?
Shooting somebody four times.
Though maybe shooting somebody four times
is the way that it makes it look like
it was more of a real crime. The dog walker
is okay? The dog walker is
stable? Yeah. Expect expected to fully recover.
So, might have been...
I don't know.
Dave might be onto something.
I'm so infuriated.
Yeah, exactly.
Because part of me is like,
the crime is sloppy,
the security is sloppy, the...
Shot four times where, exactly?
Dave is lowering his glasses.
Right through the back of the hamstring. Four times where? With a.22. Right through the back of the hamstring with a 22.
Right through the hamstring.
Bing, bing, bing.
Let's talk about Joe Biden real quick.
I'd just like to check in with where he's coming down on policies that affect Americans.
affect uh americans uh it was janet yellen recently reported that in terms of how they're going to pay for various programs to help america get back after the pandemic she said they're
pursuing corporate tax and capital gains taxes uh she's open to discussing a wealth tax, but Biden is not. And then also just opened his first detention facility for immigrant children.
So all the people who were like, finally, Biden won and I can now celebrate because there will no longer be children in cages.
No, they're unaccompanied minors in overflow facilities, is what people in my Twitter replies are saying.
Because I have an outrageous amount of, like, you know, like, capital L liberal followers because of my reporting last summer.
And every time I bring up stuff about Biden, I get, like, tens or like dozens and dozens of people being like oh but it's the first three
months or oh but he's still dealing with the best trump leftover oh well it's different because x y
and z and it's like they're incapable of criticizing biden because i don't know it's it's a weird thing
yeah i think they're centering themselves when they when they defend Joe Biden. You know what I mean?
They're trying to because it doesn't really bother them.
And the fact that it's bothering other people now.
Yeah.
Well, it should.
Well, no, but it's only.
And then now you're just hearing their rationalizations to why they aren't outraged, because really they should just be able to say, just dial it back objectively.
Do we still want to put kids in cages?
Do we do we not want to reunite people?
Right.
Like, whether or not, no matter who's the president, if that's the case, then why can't we demand that that happens?
That we are reuniting families?
And then, but here's the thing, Joe Biden, he's really, they did a good move where, you know, there was that deportation freeze that was blocked by a conservative judge.
Yeah.
And they said, well, the judge blocked it it what do you want me to do yeah well then
motherfucker you're the president start figuring some shit out start cracking some skulls the
fuck that's the thing it's like yeah i was i was angry tweeting about that for a while
and i'm like like it's like i've got you know hundreds of people at this point being like oh
well one conservative said no i guess we can't do anything else we tried
like no you're the president
the most powerful man in the country
arguably um like
like if ICE isn't
listening and there's a
judge that's blocking this then start just
dismantling ICE like you can
you can do things
you're the most power you have the most political
power than anyone else
in the country possibly the world you're gonna let one conservative judge like stop you no it's
just because you don't want to put in the work one judge and fucking joe mansion are fucking
fucking everything up because suddenly the man from west virginia he's the stunt queen of the
senate and he's like oh well now my vote is really the deciding thing.
So let me fucking fuck around with the OMB nominations or maybe Deb Haaland for the interior, who absolutely should be running the interior.
But he's trying to make noise like, oh, I don't know about that.
Like, get the fuck out of here, because now he's found a way to be the, you know, a little bit of a power broker and shit.
And it's it's all getting fucked up. I think this also plays
into how the capital
D Democratic
voters and party
members are so
terrified of any criticism of
the Democratic Party. Always. It's like,
oh, we can't criticize
people right now because it's going to affect the
midterms. Oh, after the midterms, we can't
criticize anyone because it's going to affect the midterms. And, oh, after the midterms, we can't criticize anyone because it's going to affect the general.
It's like, they can never
take any criticism of
the candidates because they feel like it's just
an attack wholly on their
idea of, like, progressiveness.
Even when the criticism
is coming from further left.
Just because they feel like any of it
is... It's almost like they feel like
the party is so fragile that under any criticism, they'll fall apart and the conservatives are going to get in.
It's actually ā it's their own egos that are so fragile and will fall apart at any criticism.
Because the people on the outside aren't looking at it like that.
That's Beltway thinking.
That's Hill thinking of like, you can't ā don't say this about them.
of like, yeah, you can't, don't say this about them. Because most people aren't like wonky enough to, to understand the optics arguments or the polling to see like why one thing doesn't work.
When most people think like, I'm seeing that a majority of people want Medicare for all. I'm
seeing a majority of people want an aggressive green new deal or path to renewable energy.
And they, that's like, they just just can't they can't really summon the
energy to be like wow a majority of americans are on this side let's now take that and march forth
and do good rather than you know this whole other thing of being afraid of whatever criticisms are
going to come out and then immediately water down legislation that helps no one or just the people
that you want to help specifically yeah
i don't know i'm just i'm so frustrated i've lost i've lost at this point probably thousands of
twitter followers because i'm just like rage tweeting about how biden's not doing anything
and i have all these like you know these people with like biden kamala usernames sure getting
home at me and i'm like don't, I don't care.
Like you're,
you're now you're,
you know,
you have like,
Oh,
I,
you know,
you have like tons of like anti-Trump stuff in your bio.
And now you're the one to quote unquote,
defending these unoccupied minors in overflow facilities.
Like,
no,
like you're too,
like you're too offended to call it kids in cages now
that we have a blue person in office come on yeah well you know that's that blue maga thinking
that's just fucking the same shit it's like nope fucking tunnel vision nothing is is wrong but yeah
it's like rather than getting mad at the people who are have the awareness and uh analytical skills
to be like this is not what he said he would do.
This is not good objectively for children.
Send your outrage to the people that are keeping the kids in the cages.
Why are you getting mad at the people who are making you realize that the guy who's in office,
who most people are like, he's not going to do any of this shit, that it's turning out to be true.
Start, then start advocating for the people
that if you really give a fuck...
Yeah, but then they have to pause brunch.
And brunch is so tasty.
I tweeted about the fucking
detention facility today,
and one of the replies
from a person with a blue flag
in their Twitter name is,
the kids in cages thing was because
they're using old Walmarts to build cages
and house large groups of children. Here we have modular buildings used as schools are there cages
are they just places where people get processed i need more information terrible how about this
cage or not detained children as you're looking at like fucking like shipping containers with like
bars on the windows like that's what the picture like really you're not gonna call it a cage all i hear when you say shipping containers modular sir
it's a modular place that's like a school right these are cages or facilities these are tiny
prisons from this company that does tiny houses from the tlc show uh and they're great little
how it's like what the fuck why why you going to bend your mind into saying?
Because let's distill it down to the real argument, which is children should not be detained and separated from their parents.
People shouldn't be detained and separated for moving to a different country.
I get the feeling like the feeling of, OK, but Republicans are so much worse, and strategically, if we're criticizing the Democrats,
then the Republicans are going to win the next thing.
But it's really starting to look like
the thing they object to about the Republicans
is less policy and more the wording around it. It's more optics, wording around it yeah it's optics and like that
they don't want to have that put in their face that that's what goes on uh they want a smooth
like a cool looking president who or like a nice president who uh does the things that make their
life possible behind the scenes so they
don't have to think about it like that's that's the thing that i feel like they're not uh admitting
to themselves yeah i mean like i have seen as many tweets as there are about like you know
immigrants and ice stuff that that i get from my like more you know liberal center followers it's
same thing for like people being like expressing like relief that they
don't feel obligated to check what he's tweeted today.
It's like, it's cause it's like, it's, it's like an optics thing, right?
It's like, they don't want someone who looks rude,
but they don't really care about what's actually happening.
It's like, it's, it's what, it's what I like the facade is like,
or what, you know, the optics are to themselves and their friends. It's like, it's, you know, it's, it's the, it's like it's what it's what like the facade is like or what you know the optics are to
themselves and their friends it's like it's you know it's it's the it's it's like the
respectability politics it's almost more important than actual policy or it's like someone who like
talks shit about veganism but like they couldn't for a second look at a meat processing facility
yeah you know what i mean it's like fuck veganism are you serious meat all fucking day don't show me
what other fucking hell fuck right like get the fuck out like you know just fucking deal look at
the shit in its eye and then look at reality and then do what you got to do or just you know start
maybe have a little bit of self-awareness like am i tricking myself a bit to protect myself from
maybe thinking a little more critically
i mean and like new things you know a lot of these like new thing like new things are always
uncomfortable right and it's much easier to kind of ignore things and just feel comfortable right
like i i wish i could sometimes i wish i could just like disengage from everything and just you
know live like a regular person because you know i assume i assume it's similar to you how we're like so in tuned with all current events and all the horrible
news and it can be overwhelming and depressing and it'd be nice if you could just you know
fuck off into the forest and have any brunch and and fuck up to brunch and just not have to look
at like not have to look at this stuff just like be completely isolated right so like part of that
is attractive um but you know that's only possible if you come from a place of privilege because if
you if you aren't privileged you can't do that right so now it should be people's obligation to
learn about these new things and learn about these other solutions even if they seem uncomfortable
because you have the ability to ignore them but a lot of other people don't because it's their everyday life yeah speaking of our love of sports and also uh something that we were talking about before we
started recording uh trading cards uh so hey are you guys up on the top shot uh movement oh yes
oh yes i am in i'm in a you haven't heard of Top Shot, Miles?
Oh Miles, get ready.
Oh no. I'm in a group chat
all about basketball and
Top Shot is the number one conversation point.
Yeah, me too.
Top Shot is basically
an NBA trading card
style market
where they create
a limited number of nba gifs that have like unique
blockchain signatures and because they have that unique signature and not because of
anything to do with like the clip really they sell for a lebron james dunk Dunk gift sold for $208,000.
The Topshop market drove $45 million in sales in one day.
I don't understand what you're saying.
You know how blockchain is like a digital thing, but there's only one of them that has the...
Yes, I get that.
But you're saying people are paying six figures for a GIF?
Yes.
That's connected to a blockchain signature.
That you use what?
To do what with?
How do you flex with it?
Like, I've seen the clip.
I've watched the clip.
But then you might as well have the GIF.
Right.
You don't have the Cremaster cycle
video art piece
where you have to own the tapes
to see the art piece.
This is the first time
Matthew Barty's come up on this show, I sure miles talks about the cremaster cycle all the time
but yeah okay i mean you know i grew up in an art house so we grew up talking shit about art
um but yeah like what i don't oh god see this is why i don't know you're flummoxed yeah because i
literally you saw before we record i pulled out my old dusty binder of 90s basketball cards.
That's what it's all about.
Right.
But the value is to just say, I own this unique GIF, full stop.
Yes.
But it's not a unique GIF because I looked at the GIF on Twitter.
It's a GIF that's connected to the blockchain. There's no value to it, but neither is there value to any cryptocurrency other than like its value as
a signifier of wealth like that or a signifier of value it's yeah it's not it's an attempt to
create the whole thing is an attempt to create sort of a physical materialist economy uh out of the digital world um it seems
regressive to me like well it seems regressive it seems like kind of trying to go back to the
like the people who are really passionate about trying to go back to the gold standard for a long
time and it's just uh fighting the direction things were headed like i i don't i don't know we're decent what
are we decentralizing you know i mean because that's the argument for these other currencies
is like we're trying to decentralize our banking or whatever but in the end they're really not
being decentralized because they're traded on like three fucking exchanges but like what i'm
this is how old i am is that i'm such an old person that it's not tangible.
So I'm like, there is no value.
Right, right.
In a sporting and I think I'm looking at it in this sporting like sort of trading context of like, what are you then?
You're just trading files.
But then I guess that also speaks to the fact that I'm I'm I'm at an age where i don't know that i can understand for me
personally that i could see the value in that philosophically i guess value it's not inherent
value is applied to things based on whether or not lots of people share the same value on right
any given object trading cards is a great example i have a box of unopened skybox trading cards
series one packs there's no there's value to them but they're just pieces of paper with an image of
an athlete right right you could you can print out a picture of michael jordan you could print
that exact picture out the the cards have always been bullshit yeah see at least i can hug my sneakers
that i love i could hug my and you can wear them yeah i have a practical practical application in
your but and then but there are people who just collect or whatever and i still get that too like
you know like you're gonna get it and i people don't understand sneaker collecting and things
like that but i understand so now this is what they the high stakes world of six figure gifts.
And now I'm just terribly behind now.
It's a hype economy and hype drives everything.
And it's not just entertainment to this stuff.
It's not just gifts, though.
No, it's not just.
Well, it is mostly gifts. in the art world there's also uh like a for instance sarah june's nyan cat uh gif sold for
580 000 uh when it was because it was like attached to a very specific blockchain signature
and so it's just yeah it's just people agreeing that this thing is going to have value uh i i'm curious and maybe
zeitgang sleuths can look into how much of that money is sarjun seeing uh for having created that
gift yeah right like zero we should just pull up to whoever owns that gif and be like yo run your
shit yeah well that's also it's also worth asking the question of how much money does lebron james
get for a top shot right right yeah is it this i assume it's officially worth asking the question of how much money does LeBron James get for a top shot?
Right.
Right.
Yeah.
I assume it's officially licensed through the National Basketball Players Association.
So there's probably some profit that these people make on the use of their likeness.
Just like a slush fund of like, okay, you get this check for the fact that we put your face on this thing and this thing and that thing.
Right.
Right.
But it's not
it's not it's probably not significant money right and so it's just basically fancy ways to dress up
your blockchain money kind of yeah essentially yeah you're like yeah i got i have i got my you
know 208k in bitcoin in in a lebron gold bar basically lebron gift gold bar essentially yeah basically and then you just
have to hope that people still care about lebron james dunking over people care about how many
honest how much energy these motherfuckers use to fucking do all this bitcoin mining and yeah
that's one point that this article and axios is pointing out is that like especially the art world side of it which is all on this
specific exchange uh that i can't remember or probably even pronounce the name of but
it's like notorious for having one of the worst carbon footprints because like the reason that
blockchain is is impossible to recreate like at least part of it is that you're having to like go through
all these computing like all this computing power and computing energy to like create one right so
like it's they they were comparing some of it to like uh what one of these things uh is the
equivalent of driving a thousand kilometers in a car and one of the artists was like yeah that's
cool uh because the carbon equivalent of like that is the carbon equivalent of running my studio for
a uh a full year jesus lord yeah that's like the other time it, God, the two sides of that. It's like, yeah, but also the carbon emissions off of making our gift money is true to roof.
Okay, but keep in mind, there is Mars.
We can always go to Mars.
Motherfucker, we're not getting there.
I'll tell you that.
Not our generation.
Not us.
And not people of our dollar denomination group.
We got to start working harder if we want our kids to be able to go to Mars.
Yeah, fuck it.
I'll start selling these sexy blockchain gifts.
That's why you need to get into Top Shot.
So you can save up to get your children to Mars.
Actually, if you're willing to sell your children off into indentured servitude, you can get to Mars.
Oh, right.
Yeah.
So it just depends on-
Pre-sell your child into indentured servitude for a life on mars
that's going to be some real shit they're going to say in like 70 years depends on how serious
you are about getting your paper up man that's all those numbers up man those are rookie numbers
you really want to be like your idol magic johnson the businessman i mean you have to
make some real moves then all right let's take take one more break and we'll be right back.
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And we're back uh what is something you think is overrated garrison robots jesus christ everyone's like oh robots are so fun like no they've done like nothing good ever they've only
been bad yeah i think all it's done is the best thing people can say robots have done
is like it's helped people make more money faster that's yeah basically yeah and yes there's like
of medical applications but i think like overall i think those robotics things i think of just like
the factory lines and like how much more you can crank out with robots and things like that
making the environment worse there once we start giving robots guns,
that's going to suck.
They're all bad.
I don't think anything really good is going to come of robots,
but people still like them because
Star Wars, I guess. I don't know.
I like Star Wars, and of course I like
R2-D2, but
I'm terrified of robots with guns.
Like anti-homeless robot
is kind of like R2-D2 shaped.
I know.
It's so sad.
Don't co-opt his beautiful form for your evil.
It sucks because the robot just goes around
and pokes people.
It's the worst.
And you can get in a lot of trouble for breaking it.
Oh, it sucks. Terrible.
What other robots
are being used? I guess guess there's like you were saying
the factory floor robots factory robots mean you can you know think of um like a computer
flown like drones and stuff for surveillance from dropping bombs um i don't know just like
robots in general just i don't i don't i can't think of very many good ones. They need a PR
campaign to write the ship
for that because you could cut together
a bunch of horrific robot videos
but where's the one where you're like,
oh, robot, or
you're like, you know what?
That robot did good.
In the Star Wars universe, robots
are a
thing that people who are lower class or farm laborers work with and sell parts for.
They're basically slaves in Star Wars.
Yeah, and they're basically slaves and treated like absolute shit.
But in reality, they are a tool.
You have to be a massive corporation to uh create or the military to create
a robot it's not like people are just like picking up robot parts and building their own robots well
i did have that one lego kit back in the day right i mean i technically made a robot so yeah
but that's like a fantasy of hollywood that like robots are just like a
a thing that we can all just like,
yeah.
Slaves.
We don't have to feel bad about.
Right.
I think is what the aim is of robots.
Yeah.
Like how real steel,
right.
Uh,
Hugh,
Hugh Jackman movie where like the robots are like hang out in junkyards
and like they pick up little pieces from,
uh,
wait, they were sentient in that
movie no no uh that that's just like where you find them they're oh got you i thought like there
was a bunch of robots kicking in a junkyard like smoking cigarettes like throwing dice or something
they're just on shutdown mode right um
wally also wally also yeah WALL-E also, yeah.
One of the great robots, but WALL-E's not rolling through that door.
I mean, and WALL-E's existence is an example of how messed up everything is.
The whole robot basically making cities out of trash because we've wrecked the Earth.
Yeah.
Again, we don't want to have a WALL-E robot.
If we have a WALL-E robot, we're already in a lot of trouble.
That means we fucked up.
Yeah, we're pretty fucked up.
But he's so cute.
He is pretty cute.
Maybe it's worth it.
I don't know.
Ana, do you have something that you think is overrated?
Okay, I got one.
Constantly having a runny nose.
What the fuck is going on with my body since 94?
Excuse me, I wasn't alive then.
I wasn't alive then. I was only born
three years ago. Right, we know that.
When I was born a few years back,
because I'm only 12, I think.
I've had, actually,
legitimately, I was born in 1990, and my nose has not
stopped running since.
Thank you for being honest, first of all.
My nose will not
stop running. It runs 24-7. My nose will not stop running.
It runs 24-7.
It runs when it's cold.
It runs when it's hot.
It runs when I eat spicy food.
It runs when I eat cold food.
It runs when I eat like at all times my nose is running.
Do you remember a few years back I sent you that article that was like this girl just thought she had a runny nose.
Turns out it was her brain fluids leaking.
Oh, yeah.
My doctor said it's not that. I did did i straight up took that article on my phone like cut it out ripped it out look at this doc
yeah and he's like no because you haven't experienced an extreme brain trauma and i was
like how do you know at this point you don't know talk to my co-workers because i did actually as a
child around two years old i did break my head it's a true story
yeah me and my brother were playing roadrunner and coyote and he shut a door on my head and my
head hit the metal like class part of the door and I had to get stitches as you can see like
that's where I always have this mark on my head that's why I had to have stitches yeah I had to
have stitches go all the way up my head so i'm like okay well two years old my doctor literally hates me i'm like at two years old i had this incident right okay i hit my head real
hard so would that explain why my nose has been running since he's like no right no and i was
like well but this internet article i know and i was like well i paid about played about five years
of rugby two years in Division I college.
Would that explain it?
And he's like, I don't know.
Do you have any medical tests from that point?
I'm like, who knows?
I don't know.
You have a highlight tape I can check out.
I did get a few concussions during that time because I was fucking rowdy.
I had a bit of a rowdy, reckless era when I was playing rugby.
Because you know when you're like always, you've been so like buttoned up because your parents are like aggressive, intense,
like sheltering immigrants. And the next thing you know, you're on a field and you're like,
that was hockey for me. Yeah. So I was like MVP for a little while. Cause I was just going so wild on the, you know, truly. Yeah. It really was like a time where all of a sudden I was like,
I'm free, baby. Right. Yeah'm free. This is what I'll do.
Yeah.
And I was like tackling like a mad woman and dislocated the majority of my fingers during
those years.
But yeah.
So like I was like, well, what about that?
Maybe that's why.
And he's like, I have no like I wasn't your doctor.
Then I can't really like tell you.
So I think it's my brain fluids.
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
Guy sounds like he's not paying enough attention to the links that you send him.
Constantly.
Are you checking your IG DMs?
I'm in requests.
Oh my God, doctor, please put me in a primary or at least general so you can see what I'm
sending you.
These IGTV links are really informative.
Well, I'll just tell you now, last time I tried to make an appointment during the pandemic,
he said it's really not necessary for you to come in yeah yeah i mean that is that
is across the board it's true why is my nose running right it's like but here's the thing
and uh when you come in you then just show me youtube videos for about 30 minutes and it i
right now my attention is really it's precious so i have to be able to give it to people who need medical attention.
I know.
I knew it was a long shot, but I still don't truly understand why my nose runs so much.
The editors on my show, shout out Billy Klein.
This poor guy literally, I one time read his instructions for editing that he was handing off the editing to someone else.
And it literally says, I just remove all the sniffles and like clear like wiping of the nose
and i'm like right don't be telling people the parts where they're the nose is audibly dripping
into the microphone i was like oh that's a problem for my editors at this point like that's when you
know you got a problem if they're like yeah i actually have to spend about two hours more on
each episode removing all her sniffing.
So, I don't know.
It's overrated.
I don't care for it.
I always have to have tissues on me at all times.
Yeah.
Sinuses are a mystery.
And it's at extra high stakes now because stuffy nose is like one of the symptoms of COVID.
But it's not stuffy.
It's never stuffy. It's just always dripping. It's never stuffy. It's just always
dripping. It's always got a drip.
So I got that drip. Runny too
apparently.
So maybe your nose is just stunting.
You know with all that drip. I think at this point
that's the diagnosis.
That's my doctor's like honestly I think we're gonna
have to diagnose your nose as stunting.
As stunting. Alright I like that doc.
And you take that and he's like, thank God she left.
Yeah.
Oh, Jesus Christ.
He asks his 13-year-old what to diagnose you with to get you to leave him alone.
Probably sound like that shit is Stunton, Dad.
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