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What is something you think is overrated,
Dally?
zeitgeist what is something you think is overrated dally um i think that sleeping in the same bed as your romantic partner is overrated um i say this because um i told my partner like right
pretty early into our relationship that this is what i require that we have like separate beds
separate rooms um And I know sometimes
people wind up in that situation, like after they've had a fight or their relationship is
starting to dissolve or whatever. But I was like, I want this from the start. I don't understand
why like being in love means you lose 50% of your bed. That's, I don't know if this is just like,
I'm a light sleeper or I'm an only child, but I'm just like, I think everyone else is weird.
And I'm like, I know our situation is unusual compared to everyone else, but I'm like, no, why are you doing this?
So for you, you just don't want to see it bed, any bed.
I don't want to share.
I just, I'm like, sleeping time is for me.
I don't know.
I have like, I was, when I was still living alone, I got a queen bed because that's how much space I want.
Like, I want to be outstretched in, like, a star shape in the center of my bed.
On your back?
Yeah, just happy.
Because I'm a queen.
Right.
I just don't think that that should be taken away from me.
I don't, like, I don't know if under if do
people understand like sex doesn't have to be it doesn't have to happen like as you're going to
sleep yeah like I don't know why these things are combined yeah yeah there's like there's something
culturally I think we saw like grandparents do that with like the separate beds and like I
remember there being like black and white tv shows where you would see it and people are just like well that's for prudes let's uh
let's move into the brady bunch era from that far away right but i'm like i want my own room not
just my own bed like i right my space just to be me and i definitely have read like research that says that that is like a more progressive or
like a great way to um you know keep a relationship healthy and especially yeah like if you're saying
dahlia like if you are a light sleeper there's nothing that will get you more off of your
shit than like not sleeping restfully that you'll carry into the next day because like at my
house my partner her majesty she likes to have all the fucking pets on the bed so i sleep in
these contorted positions where pets occupy the negative spaces that i am not and sometimes like
but then i in my mind i'm like i don't want to disrupt the little cat right now so i don't want
to move my arm and then i'm like fucking myself over if i had my own bed wouldn't happen starting to think i might be coming around
to this i'm a real pioneer yeah no for real that's yeah that's like there's all sorts of like whack
things that are like really good for relationships like seemingly whack like uh scheduling like
intimacy being like all right it's wednesday eight o'clock time for our
like weekly uh cuddle sesh or whatever greenwich meantime yeah
um and yeah this is definitely a good one i've i've been struggling with uh
similar thing but with kids uh my wife likes to have like doesn't mind when the kids come into
our room in the middle of the night and come snuggle and then i just get kicked to the fucking
curse your back spine back kicks like motherfuckers it's bad i just think there's something to be like
we love each other and i want to keep loving him and i i think there's something to be said for just kind of like maintaining a relationship with yourself while you're in a
relationship absolutely i mean credit credit to you for knowing what your needs are and communicating
them up front clearly from the beginning which is what most people do not do and then they end up
being resentful and like why'd you break up it's like i should have just said we needed separate
beds from the jump yeah yeah i couldn't sleep right i just i just realized it sounds like i'm just alone in my room jerking
off all day but that's not what i meant what are you doing in there nothing nothing
getting to sleep where's that usb charger
the one that for that package that came that had the very vague label on it no
are you like an affectionate person though like are you that doesn't mean because i think The one for that package that came that had the very vague label on it. No?
Are you like an affectionate person, though?
That doesn't mean, because I think a natural conclusion would be like,
separate beds, no touching, no hugging.
Right.
No, I am.
I like cuddling.
I'm a cuddler, but I'm like, there's a time and a place,
and it's not when I'm sleeping.
Get your arm away from me.
I like that.
Yeah, yeah.
And what is something you think is underrated?
Looking like shit is underrated.
Like, what's up with, like, on Instagram, like, all these things to make you look better and stuff?
Like, I had a week last week of looking like shit,
and I was so fucking happy and giggly and it was
giggly
like looking in the mirror like oh look like shit today
i have i just got this haircut which is kind of a mullet which is cool when i like you know
yeah it looks good that's punky i like it yeah but if i don't put product and stuff it just
sticks straight up i look like eileen warnos type you know like wait who's eileen warnos again
oh man please uh she uh charize Theron played her in Monster
oh right okay yeah yeah she looks a disaster give me the Wuornos yeah yeah I looked like that for
an entire week and that was my giggly week and my husband was like yeah you know you're happy like i can't look at you but but it was great it was my favorite
week in a long time yeah uh it's empowering that's why i think yeah i mean i feel like
i'm hoping that there's something about fashion that changes as a result of us like taking you know a year plus of not having to dress to
impress that like if there's another like a movement that comes out of it called like shit
wave like oh shit wave i mean that's what norm core is isn't it like that's when i went to berlin
it was like people try to look like shit right yeah but now i think it's gonna be like
it's more it's like jazz baby like there's no rhyme or reason to it like you gotta come out just
feeling playing your own comfort first yeah just out with a comforter around
exactly yeah just wrapped around your head or like if it's raining you wear one of those
translucent like uh bags your sheet sets come in
just on top of your head like that's your umbrella you're like oh man look at that
shit wave umbrella he got
i love you guys i mean are people are people gonna be wearing like uncomfortable clothes again
i can't imagine like wearing a like i mean i guess there's still
people who are wearing suits to work and shit right now which is insane yeah who wears i don't
know i mean is there i mean personally is there anything that you've looked at your own clothing
said you know what now that through this pandemic i'm never wearing that again i don't think i have i dress so i dress
so comfortably in general it's more like i'm only gonna wear like these three hoodies now forever
not the uh not the scratchy hoodie yeah exactly not long ago it was my sister's birthday and i
don't know what happened to me but i bought her this like vinyl dress and when she opened it i saw it in
her face and i said why the fuck did i buy it and we just all started i was like you're never
gonna wear that and she was like, never. That's amazing.
Like latex.
Yeah.
And the worst one, I also fought her to wear with the latex dress.
This like heavy gold chain.
You just have a very specific vision for your sister that she hasn't quite realized for herself yet i but like i feel that like when
you're giving a gift like it's like watching a movie that you recommended with someone you can't
fully appreciate like like you you start feeling like insecure about it and like that's when you
really have an idea of it like i feel like a gift i don't
fully like understand how good or bad the gift is until the person's about to open it and then i'm
like oh shit they're gonna fucking hate this just so nervous too we're like you're kind of putting it together at the zero hour. You're like, oh, actually, no, fuck that. Fuck that.
Fuck that.
Oh, man.
Wait, fuck that to your gift?
Yeah, yeah.
Actually, don't open it.
Don't open it.
No, it's so true, though.
I got my friend, we had a gift exchange for Christmas, and I got him a set of Fraggle Rock stuffed animals.
I mean, that sounds good to me.
It does, but it's like he just moved into a new nice apartment and they
were like large and it was all the froggy rocks and i was like
you're gonna need a room for this
you're gonna need a fraggle room
that's amazing they're bringing fraggle rock back for i think hbo exciting times i'm into it
not into reboots but this one i think they're gonna do right yeah i think when they like bring
the muppets back or the fraggles or like it's usually fine yeah yeah
fine to go pro fraggle yeah we're pro fra fragger over here pro gobble fragger
let's change gears and talk about there's an article in the herald media last week about how
uh zombie movies are taking over in korea right now or have been i guess for the past couple decades and they're basically
predicting that it's coming back in america there's a remake of train to busan coming to
hollywood that's going to they're predicting might kick off the next wave of zombie movies
um which that we've talked before about how like when a Republican is in office, there's an uptick in zombie movies because zombies like just the mindless groaning h deviance is how republicans view democrats um
but i feel like i don't know i feel like now that we are now that trump happened like all bets are
off it's like we don't need a republican to be in office to be afraid of of the people around us.
I mean, dude, fucking the January 6th look like fucking World War Z in a way.
You know what I mean?
We just saw this fucking flow of bodies.
Just like what the fuck is going on here?
It's yeah.
Actual zombies like all of like those viral videos of people like banging on doors like
let me in without a mask or whatever like yeah right full-on zombies yeah i'm actually kind of
surprised like this article made me surprised that zombie movies haven't like started blowing up
even more like more haven't been coming out in the past like first of all it's just ahead of the game right always yeah because i've seen
kingdom on netflix that series no yo that shit is dope it's like a it's like a period like thriller
piece uh like where it's like old school korea but then there's zombies on top of that shit
that shit is wild um but yeah check that out on netflix i'm like only
through the first couple episodes but yeah there's like something i think yeah that they're sensing
something clearly uh that because i feel like yeah the more we look at like our news i'm also
finding myself like interested in zombie content again yeah like i was like trying to like find
this game i just play left for dead where you it's like four people fighting a bunch of zombies i'm like that's just tight um and yeah
i think because i feel yeah there's on some level there's like this feeling of like is it me and a
few other people and then a lot of nonsense around right right but also like they're starting to be
so realistic like the zombies in movies like they seem so much like people that i feel like they're starting to be so realistic like the zombies in movies like they seem so
much like people that i feel like they're gonna have to give them something like they're gonna
have to like start flying or something you know right oh right yeah yeah yeah some other power
that to differentiate them from real people the ability to cancel anyone oh my god don't go there miles oh my god on top of
fearing that they're the four people fearing that they're gonna get eaten by zombies they also fear
that the zombies will cancel yeah like what's worse they're like no but they might eat you
like they can cancel you though well hold on that's that's a
less of a threat to you maybe yeah to you but like there's only four of us left yeah still still
well i'm not gonna wear this blue lives matter shirt around them because i don't know what's
gonna happen what they might tell their others i don't know you don't know oh my god well let's
get work let's start working on this.
Yeah.
I think it's funnier.
I think it's funnier to just sort of lambast liberal politics with this than it would be the other way.
I think it's just way.
In my mind, there's way more.
There's way more to mine through like liberal thinking than just being like, we get it.
It's ignorance or whatever
this like high like a high-minded idiot zombie who's gonna cancel you like what the right yeah
yeah and just the we're all ground into mindless automatons by by capitalism so that's how we'll
bring the country together through our zombie show that makes fun of liberals,
that liberals are like, oh, yeah, there's something there.
And then for people on their right, they're like,
yeah, fuck yeah, this shit's fucking great.
I like that you even added a little bit of chaw
into the person's mouth who you were just impersonating.
Fuck yeah, man.
Fuck yeah, man.
I got a fucking horseshoe down here, man.
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i do like who would be the starting five i mean obviously the shaman zambied yeah um trump at the
trump running is playing point guard yeah q shaman don't know. Is he like a small forward?
Yeah, actually, maybe Trump is Embiid.
Beagle is center.
Beagle is at the five.
The Arkansas dude who had his feet on Nancy Pelosi's desk.
Yeah.
Either way, I mean, that's-
Posting up, because he's for real posting up.
I mean, yeah, so this whole story, keeps evolving or not evolving they just they're more
ridiculous stories about the arrogance going in a straight line i don't know what i thought it
ended i thought it was over what the heck's going on um so we talked about federico klein last week
who sounds like the off-brand underwear designer uh but is actually was a trump state department
appointee and how he was arrested for, you know,
assaulting officers with a riot shield and other violent crimes and, you know, felonies.
But either way, now that he's in custody, he had some concerns about the conditions at his hearing.
He told the judge, quote, I wonder if there is a place where I can stay in detention,
where I don't have cockroaches crawling over me while I attempt to sleep?
I mean, really, I really haven't slept all that much, Your Honor.
It would be nice if I could just sleep in a place where there were not cockroaches everywhere, Your Honor.
Your Honor, cockroaches much?
That sounds like he's being sarcastic.
Your Honor, I'm a power user on trip
advisor i could fuck this whole thing up with one review okay so think about it before i before i
leave a review in this courtroom and the detention facility here and wherever it was i mean wow okay
uh because we've seen this this whole sense of like but i'm white don't treat me like the other people there's two
justice systems that's why i stormed the capital because i knew that and now you want to treat me
like every other person that you brutalize with your fucked up legal system hell no so i mean like
look if q shaman got organic food and the other lady got to go to cancun and the judge is like
yeah you can go on your cancun trip i mean honestly he might be in the saint regis by tonight i mean obviously as a society we should not be putting
people in cages where uh cockroaches crawl over them uh period it's just wild that the only times
we hear about it is when it happens to jeffrey epstein or uh somebody who was trying to overthrow
the government while employed by the government right um basically republicans if it happens to
republicans we hear about right the other one is there was another guy who was at the at the
capital that day he was arrested at jfk because he attempted to flee to kenya on the word so on the 24th he flew to kenya and then
the kenyans deported him last week they're like wait what the fuck no uh bye go and then the fbi
just got his ass at at uh jfk but again uh these are the kinds of uh like solutions that these
people think will work and the other man who was arrested,
this guy, he was a business owner from Montana.
Isaac Steve Sturgeon.
I've read about this guy.
What would you learn?
I mean, it just reminded me of like,
in Queens, we have a lot of like racial,
because it's so diverse. We have a lot of like racial because it's so diverse we have a lot
of like racial tension everywhere and i'm used to seeing white races do white racist stuff then run
home to co-op like black culture for their enjoyment so like in this case isaac sturgeon
or whoever he is right he did his like white racist stuff in capitol hill then like co-opted
africa like just like basically
he was like i'm going directly to the source here's my costco card of white supremacy i want
to i want to get kenya i need to go back to the cradle of life you know what i mean
fucking get down you know you feel me my newbie in kings and queens like wait what? I'm sorry. But anyway, fuck Barack Obama.
Wait, hold on.
This is it's yeah, it's just so confusing.
It must be exhausting.
But again, they found their way into the wonderful embrace of the FBI.
I do wonder if he was going over there to like on some birther shit to try and. Or like Montana sounds like you're a big game hunter and maybe you could pretend you're like, I'm going to do it like I'm going to go kill African things to blow some steam off for the insurrection.
But because like that feels like a, you know, like I know there's a lot of big game.
What was the other story like in the beginning of the Trump administration?
Some like big game hunters from Montana and stuff going to to wherever but yeah could be it i don't know but
either way didn't work the point about it being exhausting uh kind of brings me to this last
thing i wanted to just bring up in the context this is sort of an ongoing question but uh like
i was saying in the intro uh adam curt, his name is the documentary director of Hypernormalization, just released a six part documentary on the BBC.
Can't get you out of my head.
You can find it.
You can watch it on YouTube for free. that he makes uh is that culture like both online culture uh and culture like music movies tv like
the sort of shit that uh culture wars are fought over is something that has been like almost created the current system of power as a release valve
to get the revolutionary energy out of us.
And the way he illustrates this is with Tupac's mother,
who was an incredible revolutionary,
a Black Panther who defended herself in court for a bombing plot
she was entrapped into and both got herself and all the other black panthers acquitted
and also got the undercover fbi agent to admit that what they'd done together when he was
pretending to be part of the black panther movement was beautiful like it's it's like
out of a movie like like the rom-com where it's like yeah even though
i was duplicitous those times were beautiful babe yeah and like their goal was beautiful the goal of
the black panther movement as they're trying to make her seem like a villain and then he kind of
says so tupac inherits this legacy and he has all the trappings of like revolution and the energy of a revolutionary
but it's sort of pushed off into this direction of more individualistic artistic expression
and you know that's sort of the other side of the coin like kind of a more straightforward example would be the culture warship and like us arguing over culture warship when you know there is there
are people who are starving in america um and so he kind of does a uh historical look at this
through and like sort of the prism of u.s chinese uh british history uh over the last like 70 years
like through this dichotomy of like individualism versus collectivism and like how individualism
has won out and put us in this like version of reality that we live in now where we're
sublimating our anxieties and like anxieties that are caused by
structural problems uh through like individual expression with no aim but like the beauty of art
and that like makes us less empowered would be i guess an argument that he raises
and i don't know i thought that was interesting but just kind of in the context
of the culture war i mean yeah if you can swap out your energy for outrage over children being
killed in the middle east or you know starving american kids or unarmed black people being killed
for getting into like well hold on man lola bunny's titties should look a certain size like right yeah we're
fucking you've completely lost the plot um and it's hard to like refocus things or try and get
a media to like focus refocus things on like when you have these other things you can kind of like
you're saying this release valve and get your anger out on this completely misguided misdirected
way but it's a like if it's as
cynical as like we're kind of looking at this of how it organically becomes a system guarding
itself against revolutionary action and ideation then it's like very elegant and you're like holy
shit i think also in like a very dystopian way it is so much easier to let's call it bully a studio into removing a character because they
care exclusively about money and just like okay everyone's mad let's take them out whereas you
know affecting real change is fucking hard and the and the gatekeepers are the government you
know and the government doesn't give a fuck right like corporations give a fuck because their bottom
line will hurt yeah government they don't give a fuck. Corporations give a fuck because their bottom line will hurt. Government, they don't give a fuck.
They're not even sending out checks.
It doesn't matter if it's Biden's government or Trump's.
It's always going to be more difficult to affect change within the government.
So it's a release valve, but we continuously see change.
I want to use a funny example of even just as simple as the Sonic the Hedgehog movie
where they were like, he looks too human this movie sucks right and so they like literally
redid the movie right yeah because the people spoke and and then it's like we won you know and
and it's easier to win that way it feels like you're winning yeah when you're having these
conversations that like technically don't matter or don't matter as much and you compare that to the millions of people who pour into the streets over
the summer,
you know,
against systemic racism and over policing and things like that.
And it's like,
can't get a fucking dub there.
Right.
Nope.
At most you got Joe Biden being like,
shoot him in the leg or fucking.
How about like,
we ask nicely for people to show their hands before we start clapping like
it's not it that's really do we need a sonic the hedgehog results there you know what i mean and i
think that's exactly yeah i really like to put it that way it's like we we're looking for sonic type
responses um but we get in these sonic type arguments all the time. So it's completely, yeah, obscures the energy and puts it in many different directions.
Yeah.
And those those movements happened when culture kind of ground to a halt.
So, I mean, that would be another piece of evidence that like there's something about this distracting kind of constant cultural you know conversation especially like these current
culture war things that are conversations completely started by the right wing
that that is just you know siphoning off energy that is much better spent elsewhere
well all right so there's a uh an atlantic article that's kind of on this subject of like the brain
fog and like the fact that we can't really remember what things were like before i can't remember
what things are like now uh let alone what things were like before and like i i think i was
describing the fact that like when i like started parking in this building, I could remember like where I parked.
But after like four months of parking in the building, I had no idea because each memory was just like going into this sea of like nearly identical memories.
And so it was just like and like that's how I feel about every day now.
It's like every day just goes into this sea of nearly identical days.
And I have no kind of frame of reference or like, you know, point to orient things around.
And that's kind of part of this theory.
The neuroscientist at UC Irvine says that we're all basically walking around with some mild cognitive impairment based on everything we know about the brain. Two of the things that are really good for it are physical activity and novelty.
A thing that's very bad for it is chronic and perpetual stress.
And basically living through a pandemic is exposing people to micro doses of unpredictable stress all the time.
Yeah. Like feeling like your things are out of your control is one of the greatest causes of stress or contributors, exacerbators of stress.
And I feel like we've all felt that way a little bit.
conservators of stress um and i feel like we've all felt that way a little bit yeah the other thing here is this like calling cascading collective trauma is the other way i've heard
this talked about yeah where it's this again it's every level it's covid it's economic recession
it's racial unrest it's disaster like natural disasters so like yeah we're and then on top of it there's like
a media environment too that i've seen saying is compounding these stresses just by the kind of
media you ingest on top of it is just a recipe for like yeah just consistent like low-grade trauma
that is you know building up over time it's a little tough yeah
is that why thai caves feels like it was you know two decades ago exactly no cell phones back then
i know i know i'm like they had divers were they going around those like copper helmets like those
old diving bells are they okay did they come out all right did they if i tug on the cord
uh yeah the kids are right i think there's just the one i think one person now yeah exactly at
this point right they're like yeah they're in their 60s i think yeah they got grandkids they're
doing all right dally have you done anything like in terms of addressing the monotony of lockdown
like how have you created strategies to combat these things are you even experiencing something
like that because i feel like people have different resiliency levels when it comes to the lockdown, I feel.
I'm definitely experiencing that.
It's actually very cathartic to read, like, terms, like, language for it.
Right.
Because I kind of thought I was just getting old and losing my memory.
But it seems like it's a bit deeper than that.
So, yeah, definitely.
I'm a stand-up comedian, so all my shows have had to go on Zoom now.
And it's it's not ideal, but it's also a great way to keep talking to people. If I don't do those, I'm just talking to my dogs. And that's insane.
and that's insane because I talk to them with this voice
and I can't do that voice all day.
So that's one thing that helps kind of just,
I have something to look forward to a few times a week
and it does kind of break the monotony.
But other than that,
it's so hard for me to remember when things happened.
I'm like, was that early in the pandemic?
Was that five years ago?
I don't know. I've also been was that early in the pandemic? Was that five years ago? I don't know.
I've also been trying to do
morning pages, which is just like
the artist's way, like journaling.
I do like 750
words every morning just to
articulate what is
triggering depression or just
vent or just talk about what
I did yesterday.
Because I'm like, I don't know what I did this week.
Right.
So that's been extremely helpful just getting – one of my friends, one of my comedy friends said it's kind of like taking a shit in the morning.
It's just kind of like you get that out of your system.
Right.
And that's been really helpful for me.
Your first 750 words
my first 750 turds yeah indeed having dogs is good too they force you to go outside and right
fresh air yeah yeah but like with kids though jack doesn't doesn't that somehow break it up
or there is also a pattern too with like the ebb and flow of them yeah they break they definitely
break things up for sure it's just like every other part of the life that's like framing it and just
physical location i remember watching my nieces and nephews like or like i remember that's like
those are the parts of the pandemic i remember like doing it safely and being like yeah like
well we could watch the kids for a little i I remember that because it's like so much going on.
But yeah, with the COVID, the funny thing.
And there's this other research paper that, you know, they're they're talking about the just cascading trauma effect or whatever.
And they're saying, so what do we do about it?
What do you think the solution is from experts just in general?
How can we remedy what's happening for people that are stressed out right now?
What do you think the solution is to this?
The pandemic being over? I don't know.
Or, you know, what can the government do, you know, like help people? That's all they're saying. They're like, the trauma is compounded when on top of it, there are people who are being like, I have no, like, there's no, I have nowhere to turn.
Yeah. There are people who are being like, I have no like there's no I have nowhere to turn. Yeah, I'm not getting educated.
I'm not getting PPE.
I'm not getting rights as a worker.
They're saying all of these things would be just particularly effective for like those that are, you know, especially at higher risk for for COVID and things like that.
So it's just like a.
You know, it's like the simplest things, but we're just,
we'll never,
I don't know,
just cross the river across the Rubicon into like help.
Yeah.
Without,
I mean,
it's a,
America has always been like a very like cold world.
And,
uh,
I think this is just like laying bare how like live and let die,
like with the emphasis on the, on the let die side of things.
It really is shit.
Well,
what a way to end things.
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All right, let's talk about Doggate.
I don't know what the fuck they're going to call this in the right-wing media,
gate or i don't know i don't know what the fuck they're gonna call this uh in the right wing media but it is it was the top story on breitbart uh when it happened president biden's dog
bit someone and had to be uh moved to a different location uh because yeah and I mean, this is, you would think, actually, like, my main takeaway from the story is not the, you know, full of shitness of the right wing media, because like, about being a dog at the white house that just turns you into a complete asshole because the the record of dogs biting so he's pointing out
in this article like this happens almost every white house like obama uh took lots of shit
because his dog uh right before he left office his dog sunny bit one of malia's friends on the face
which that's no joke
a dog bite on the face like i know people who had to have a reconstructive surgery for dog bites on
the face like that's that's no joke uh george w bush's dog barney bit two people a uh a pr person
for the boston celdics and a reporter uh the jenna bush later described the dog as a a real jerk
oh no which you know it's serious uh yeah like bringing like conservative white woman language
saying a dog's a real jerk is like that person mauled that dog mauled like nine babies it's a
it's a monster and then you go back to fdr uh he had a german shepherd
like biden named major like biden so that was clearly not accidental uh he bit four people
including the british prime minister actually ripped the seat off his pants no like a fucking
cartoon uh reporters at the time made a big deal of the
fact that they were just like ah it's uh germany attacking great britain because it was a german
shepherd and the you know that was the big big thing back then uh tension and then
and then teddy roosevelt's dog pete uh routinely bit people who displeased him
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french ambassador down the halls of the white house caught him and tore again tore the backside
of his pants off okay hold on is that really now now this sounds like a weird bit and we're
we're getting like hyperbolic historians are just like
right
historians are just fucking with us
I don't know
two times a dog's
ripping the butt off a
dignitary's pants like some
kind of like it's truly like a comic
strip where the most embarrassing thing is
like the dog bit his butt and
his underwear was exposed but i do wonder a sad untold story here it's the one dog uh major who's young
who did the biting but it's two dogs that are beat that got deported from the white house it's
because of major so there's an older dog champ who's like an old man
and he's paying the collective you know punishment for for majors uh uh accusations
right that's some bullshit yeah accusations because that's what they are right exactly i
don't see is there taped allegations and honestly shame on whoever he snitched on that dog there should be
there should be problems for that person but like you know there there is that relationship between
uh owner and dog and you know like the the presidency we've also seen that it like ages
people like the ring from lord of the rings like it's just it's not good for the soul so i just wonder
like is a dog of a president just like inherently just goes goes dark on on the people right yeah
i don't know do you think it's because like the environment is just overly stimulating like it's
just like or i don't know i mean i don't know how the residential quarters work of the white house and where dogs live or don't live but i felt like if i'm picturing
the show the west wing and a confused ass dog being like what the fuck are all these people
doing like a lot of walking and talking just trailing behind and also like everybody's going
to be differential to the dog and so that's probably not the the best thing in the world yeah like you
know the dog's shitting on people's stuff and they can't say anything because it's right his dog
i swear to god i'm gonna punch the dog if this does if it happens again they're like
shit was in the shape of the presidential seal like i can't do anything but yeah it's just uh yeah the dog probably assumes that the dog is
president like because it doesn't know any better and everyone's just being like yo like just
treating it like it it runs shit uh yeah and it's like where's the nuclear football toy that you can play catch with me in the rose
garden with right and we don't have like because uh the media didn't you know fully report honestly
on on presidents before nixon basically we we don't know how many presidents actually how many
of those presidents were actually biting people so So that's always a possibility too.
All right, let's talk about Elizabeth Banks' new movie.
Elizabeth Banks directed Pitch Perfect, I think.
Pitch Perfect 2?
Yeah, one of the sequels.
One of the sequels.
And then Charlie's Angels was the latest one.
Right.
So she's also a famous actress
who you would know from many a 90s movie.
Yeah.
The Hunger Games would be our younger listeners would probably recognize her from.
But so her latest movie is called Cocaine Bear.
Is that really?
is that is that really like i'm looking at her imdb filmography and they might be using a different name for it uh really under director yeah under director they've uh yeah maybe i don't know or
they're just i think it no it hasn't gone into production yet got it so maybe they are um waiting
to actually like fully, fully announce that.
Got it.
But anyway, yeah, she's got the she's got the new movie coming out.
And I thought Cocaine Bear was like, OK, maybe this will be a hilarious comedy.
And maybe or really ridiculous film.
So it's a fucking true story about a bear that ate a bunch of cocaine in the 80s and died.
So I was like, OK, so it's a short movie?
But the whole thing is they say in December 1985,
a bear was walking around the Chattahoochee-Oconee National Forest in Georgia,
minding its own business.
Again, made up.
When it found 40 plastic bags of cocaine worth $15 million,
ate them, and then died. The medical examiner who performed an autopsy on the bear said
the cause of death was uh cerebral hemorrhaging respiratory failure hyperthermia renal failure
heart failure stroke you name it the bear had it its stomach was quote literally packed to the brim
with cocaine end quote there wasn't a mammal on the planet who could survive that that makes me
feel so bad yeah that is very sad i'm also wondering what our plot is here
right well as a screenwriter let me tell you what i would do what's the inciting incident when the
coke falls on the bear's head from the sky right um oh i'm also seeing here that um you i'm looking
at a hollywood reporter article universal is behind Bear, which is based on an untitled spec script.
So, yeah, I think they probably just are like, untitled Cocaine Bear project.
Right.
But I think they should just keep the title Cocaine Bear.
Why not?
I mean, so the origin story, I think that's what the film will probably center on, how that blow got to the bear.
Got it. And it turns out that it was a man named Andrew Thornton
who was like a corrupt narcotics cop
who then transitioned to international drug smuggling kingpin.
Amazing how those things happen sometimes.
And so it all happened when one day he was doing,
I guess, a massive transport of cocaine
and there's some engine trouble occurred.
And so he got spooked and started dumping as much of the blow out the plane's doors as he could.
And that's when I think the shit got into the forest where the bear got to it.
And then he tried to jump out with a parachute.
But unfortunately, he was holding 70 pounds of cocaine, a ton of cash and guns
that the weight was fucked up and his shoot didn't deploy properly because the load was too much.
And then he died and they discovered him literally like with next to a 70 pound pilot blow with guns and like money dead in the forest.
Wow.
Still not sure what the like what how do we center the bear in this?
Maybe the cocaine bear was inside all of us all along like that's cocaine here's what i would do i would really take a lot of
liberties with the story and do some pretty major world building where the bear comes upon the cocaine eats it and then rather than dies
a tragic death um develops superpowers right and then becomes a superhero bear a super bear
yeah i mean the spec script was actually written by the bear before it died of a cocaine overdose
so that might it was etched into a tree trunk with his claws.
And then I'm thinking, man, like maybe...
People need to know my story.
Oh, yeah, man.
And I can see fucking so good at night now.
So then I get night vision.
And then, yeah, I mean, unfortunately...
And it launched three restaurants in the...
Yeah.
Some sick underground bear speakeasies.
Yeah, I like world building.
I would like some world building around there
i just the i get i mean like the story of this andrew thornton person seems fine but i mean what
of this bear like i think i think the movie would be great if the entire film is about the bear and
the last shot is the cocaine coming down from the sky so it's's just The Bear, that movie, where it's like following a bear around the forest?
Yeah, yeah.
Or that one movie with Danny DeVito, Jack the Bear.
Wasn't that one with Danny DeVito?
Oh, wow.
I thought I knew my bear movies.
I thought that was a porn, Jack the Bear.
That's a different one.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, yeah.
This is the Marshall Herskovitz director.
Could also be Brother Bear, that Disney vehicle from the early 2000s that we all know and love.
Maybe it's The Revenant.
Right.
Brother Bear from The Revenant?
Yeah.
The Bear from The Revenant could be.
I don't know, time travel?
Yeah.
It's just going through different movies.
Because it's all.
In its own mind. Because it's just going through different movies like in its own mind because it's so
yeah again it's and we're still talking about a fucking animal that ingested 40 pounds of cocaine
and it's a mess its body was a mess it's wild how quickly the bear because cocaine is, I can't imagine it tastes good to bears, but it very quickly was like, holy shit, I got to get more of that, you know?
They're like, oh, man, I don't want to, I'm coming down, bro.
I'm going to eat some more.
Yeah.
Yeah.
40 pounds worth.
How about it?
Oh, my gosh.
Unless maybe it was cut with like NutraSweet or Sweet and Low or.
Yeah.
Or like Baby Laxative.
Baby Laxative.
Yeah.
I think, I mean, this is Elizabeth Banks' third film.
Well, actually, no, she's directed a few things, but I'm really curious to see how this all
turns up.
Like, it's compelling in that it's so vague, but has these odd specifics.
And I'm like, where can we go with this?
Guide me, cocaine bear.
That is a wild, true story.
I mean, it could literally go in so many directions.
Did you see Robert Evans' tweet about it?
No.
He said, this is the only movie we have needed since Fury Road.
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