The Daily Zeitgeist - Weekly Zeitgeist 184 (Best of 7/12/21-7/16/21)

Episode Date: July 18, 2021

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Kay hasn't heard from her sister in seven years. I have a proposal for you. Come up here and document my project. All you need to do is record everything like you always do. What was that? That was live audio of a woman's nightmare. Can Kay trust her sister or is history repeating itself? There's nothing dangerous about what you're doing.
Starting point is 00:00:18 They're just dreams. Dream Sequence is a new horror thriller from Blumhouse Television, iHeartRadio, and Realm. Listen to Dream Sequence on the iHeartRadio iheart radio app apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts captain's log stardate 2024 we're floating somewhere in the cosmos but we've lost our map yeah because you refuse to ask for directions it's space gem there are no roads good point so where are we headed into the unknown of course Join us on In Our Own World as we uncover hidden truths, navigate the depths of culture, identity, and the human spirit. With a hint of mischief. One episode at a time.
Starting point is 00:00:53 Buckle up and listen to In Our Own World on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Trust us, it's out of this world. What happens when a professional football player's career ends and the applause fades and the screaming fans move on? I am going to share my journey of how I went from Christianity to now a Hebrew Israelite. For some former NFL players, a new faith provides answers. You mix homesteading with guns and church.
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Starting point is 00:01:39 Hi, I'm Eva Longoria. Hi, I'm Maite Gomez-Rejon. Our podcast, Hungry for History, is back. And this season, we're taking in a bigger bite out of the most delicious food and its history. Seeing that the most popular cocktail is the margarita, followed by the mojito from Cuba and the piña colada from Puerto Rico. Listen to Hungry for History on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hello, the Internet, and welcome to this episode of the Weekly Zeitgeist. These are some of our favorite segments from this week, all edited together into one nonstop infotainment laughstravaganza.
Starting point is 00:02:21 Yeah, so without further ado, here is the weekly zeitgeist well miles we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by the very talented actress writer podcaster educator karama donkwa welcome thank you thank you thank you for having me uh mr applejack and miles i do have a question about that apple story, though. Was it a red apple or a green apple? Because one of them. Oh, that's the worst one. Yeah, I feel like that's worse. I'd rather have a green apple land in my cereal milk than a red apple. no idea i'm just okay well i just know i just like no and i'm like huh and now i'm sort of like damn am i not thinking critically enough about some of the things he's saying i might be thinking too critically about that story it feels like a yeah tim robinson sketch i didn't focus on the like limb aspect of it i'm like but what color was the apple yeah i just had it right here like next to my head and then it just went like that boom just flew oh so it wasn't i thought you wound up no no you launched it oh so was he just across the table from you yeah he was just he was like down the table a few people oh man it was like a
Starting point is 00:03:38 salt bay situation but like with an yeah it was a it was a spastic salt bay situation oh or like you were one of those card magicians and you're throwing a card real quick. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Right, right, right. Okay. Now you see me. And I've ruined your cereal milk with this half-bitten apple. Karama, what is good?
Starting point is 00:03:55 What's new with you? What's good? What's new? I'm about to move back to the 818. What, what? Oh. Yeah, next week I'm moving to van nuys so excited about that and then i just wrapped on season one of i carly where i was working in the writer's room the
Starting point is 00:04:13 reboot or revival i think is the technical term but you know people just be thrown out rewords all over the place sure sure and uh i have an episode that i got to write and it comes out in a couple of weeks. So that's what's new. Wow. Amazing. That's so dope. I've been intersecting with so much iCarly talent recently. And eventually we'll get Lacey back on here.
Starting point is 00:04:34 But I met Francesca over the weekend. Ramsey. Oh, yeah. Very lovely person. And I was just like, man, this seems like the best show to be working on. Yeah, no, I love Lacey. Love Francesca god i was like a huge francesca stan before the show and like when i got the list of people who remember
Starting point is 00:04:52 those internet videos i like had a heart attack and i texted all my friends i was like oh my god francesca ramsey is gonna be working in the room and i like had to be normal for six months working with her how'd you do how'd you do as not great normal yeah great you came holding a printout you wanted her sign like in front of your chest like hi so it's my first day i'm karama blessedly we were working remote oh right right right so i did not i would have i would have been like hi this is the video that you did like six years ago. Will you sign Prince House Summit?
Starting point is 00:05:30 No, I mean, just generally, I didn't do a great job of being normal. Not just Francesca wise. The first day of work, we were introducing ourselves. And like I said that I thought that Emotion by Carly Rae Jepsen was one of the best albums of all time. And I thought it was criminally underrated. And I was like, this is not a normal way to introduce yourself. Just say your name and stop talking. Oh, you just came with a hot take right out of the gate.
Starting point is 00:05:56 Well, somebody asked me, what has Carly Rae Jepsen been up to since Call Me Maybe? Which was a mistake on their part. I made that mistake very early on in this show and the crj goons came for me but shout out to y'all because you did convert me because so many people were like put that out of your mind what you think you may know and just put this album on and listen to it and i'm like this shit is just really good. This is like solid pop music. It's really good. It's really, really good.
Starting point is 00:06:28 I have a, for my birthday, for my 30th birthday, the room got me a Carly Rae Jepsen quilt. Oh. And it's the most beautiful thing I've ever seen. And I carry it around with me when I like travel places. Like I'm Linus from the Peanuts. Just with your Carly Rae. Edit that out. Don't tell anybody that.
Starting point is 00:06:46 Oh my God. Why did I say that? You know, cause you're just letting them know. I do so many of those hooks. I really, I really, really,
Starting point is 00:06:53 really like you. Like you can, they're easy to sing and like run away with me. There's so many earworms in that album. That's what I'm saying. You know what? And you know, maybe your boy is having LA hallucinations these days. Who knows yeah oh my god la hallucinations is my song i i oh my gosh
Starting point is 00:07:11 yes you've come to the right place that whole album is good i'm so glad i found my people i mean look i'm a i'm a new i'm just i'm i'm crj curious you know what i mean opening my i'm expanding my horizons and i realized, why did I have that all? Why did I have the wrong ideas about this? I think so many fandoms are really toxic in that they think if you haven't been there since day one, you don't have as much legitimacy as people who have been there since day one. And I don't think that that's true. I think that if you are gathering enjoyment from whatever the fandom is, even if it is your first day when it's somebody else's 10 000th day then good for you and you don't have to be like i know every song i know every book i
Starting point is 00:07:52 know that she was third place on canadian idol i know that she starred as frenchie in greece live i know that she played dorothy in the whiz in high school which is i have feelings about that in the whiz the whiz well let's let's move past that because we really want to have the positive vibes up and you know high school was a strange time but yeah for sure gatekeeping is just so exhausting because like i've i myself have been like that like when i was in college and stuff and you know going to college in the aughts like that was peak like check out my fucking dvds check out my albums that i have and you're you're coming at people like oh you don't know portishead's dummy what the fuck
Starting point is 00:08:31 you talking and then i realized that's just me because all i had for my personality or my identity was to say i knew a lot about this other shit rather than being more secure and who i just was fundamentally as a human being outside of my interests. And then you have to realize, oh, yeah, this let's just just welcome everybody. Especially the newcomers can experience it and enjoy it in a way that you can't. So let them let them have that. That's why actually you want to be. And again, shout out to all the Zeitgang who are not not like being shitty about my first
Starting point is 00:09:03 early Carly Rae Jepsen takes, but were very much like, hey, I get it, but you really owe it to yourself. You seem to like music. You should listen to it. You'll enjoy it. And I did. And even the subsequent albums. But I think, you know, as it relates to bringing somebody in,
Starting point is 00:09:21 there's no better feeling, actually, when you put somebody onto something and you watch them light up, being like, this is so good. You're like, yes, okay. That's why those two guys those brothers on like youtube who do them like listening to songs for the first time i think that that's why they're so popular because it's like we love these songs we get to watch them fall in love with these songs like when i heard that drum break on in the air tonight they were like what yo what and i'm like yes that's how i felt too right exactly but for us all of our like you know dopamine receptors have burned out in terms of like these albums so it happens you're like i just need this to live but i'm i i enjoy seeing others get life jakeese what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are. Oh, from the search history. All right. All right. I always act surprised,
Starting point is 00:10:08 even though I've been on the show many times and I act surprised. Something from my search history is I was looking up this place called Club Privada. Now, if you don't know what Club Privada is, I know there are some people in the Oregon site gang who might know what this is, but it's a sex club, right? Now, I didn't think these things existed. I didn't think sex clubs existed. I thought they were just things of fantasy, things that you hear about on television. But I decided to run up the old Google machine and plug it in and log it in and look up Club Pravada. And it's very much a thing.
Starting point is 00:10:44 And there are sex clubs in almost every city and state i mean unless you live in a boring ass place but if you live in a place that like has a population that's a little bit bigger there are sex clubs and everywhere i'm not saying i'm gonna go but i am saying i'm intrigued now so you know it's just good information to have yeah it's good information to have you know if if you and your significant other decide you want to spice some shit up and you want to you want to go to a club uh for the certain spice that you're looking for that is available to you and if you did not know now you do because they are real they are real i thought it was fake
Starting point is 00:11:21 what's a sex club though it's a place where you fuck like you just you like it's like a swingers place so like you you go and couples go and they had they make love you don't say the f word on the dailies like guys uh they make love and then and then they uh or and then you could tap in and stuff you You know, obviously to your comfort. No is no, yes is yes, everything like that. But then, like, you know, a lot of places do single ladies and couples. No men. Sorry, man. Sorry if you're single, man.
Starting point is 00:11:53 But it's just a place where you go to hook up, have sex with your partner, and or other people as well. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. It's basically the shit you see in movies that don't seem real but apparently it is real yeah you would think we would know more about it that used to just be the wendy's parking lot for me but right good to know about right oh you hooked up in the wendy's parking lot before too oh yeah yeah baby what you do is you you walk outside with three uh what is it the
Starting point is 00:12:21 uh the frosties uh-huh yeah spill three frosties on your feet outside the wendy's that's the sign what what color what color what color frosty the vanilla or the chocolate vanilla vanilla vanilla and then if you're down for the swirls you got both okay okay let them know like i'm open see what i do is i'll go get i'll be like i go in and i give me your hottest meat and so when i bring it back to the car and the windows fog up and somebody knocking me like it's the meat it's too hot it's too hot which is true but they think i mean something else you know so that's what the wendy's parking lot is but it always ends with the same thing which is sir this is, this is a Wendy's. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:09 That's exactly what it ends with. And, you know, every time I don't care, I'll be like, you're right. I saw on TikTok that this clip of this woman who was like, I guess she was saying she was a swinger about how, like, if you're in a supermarket and you have your pineapple upside down in your cart, that's letting people know that you're with it. Really? But again, this is like TikTok. I mean, this is what is so funny about TikTok. It's like full of videos like this being like, this is how this subculture gets down. And I don't know if that's true.
Starting point is 00:13:34 So Swinger Crew, let us know. It's just like an elementary school. That's like some shit that a rumor I would spread in elementary school. Hey, man, you hear if you turn your pineapple upside down you're down the fuck yeah every town has a park where like i hear that if you park up there and like one of your taillights is out you know what that means yeah about your tail they'll light it up you gotta light that tail up if it's out i grew up with hbo flex brag and uh they had a show called real sex oh yeah which i would always tune into you know after the parents had gone to bed and i would see sex clubs and i would be disillusioned from any idea that they are uh what what we see in movies they're usually
Starting point is 00:14:27 they usually involve a balding man and a with a ponytail yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah you you ain't going you ain't i mean listen i'm sure there's uh you know listen beauty is in the eye of the behold yeah yeah you know what i'm saying let me go ahead and say these things pre-cancellation beauty's in the eye of the beholder what you love is what you love you know the looks don't matter it's what's on the inside but you know we ain't going it ain't rare shoe diaries in there it's gonna be some of us you ain't attracted to in there so you know like just know that probably going in you know that yeah you might be looking for red shoe diaries it might be looking for Red Shoe Diaries. It might be Payless. You're making some Payless Shoe Diaries in there.
Starting point is 00:15:14 What is something you think is overrated, Cerise? Gosh, I think the Loki show is overrated. The whole Marvel Universe, I think, is overrated. I have not seen it. I've, I will, I don't know. I mean, were you a big Marvel Universe fan and then you watched it? No, no. I got into the Marvel Universe in lockdown.
Starting point is 00:15:38 We got Disney Plus and we've been watching Loki and people are always talking about it. And I don't know. I just don't get it. Like I'm not into it at all. People are so into these movies and this television show. And I just, I really don't get it.
Starting point is 00:15:56 Did you watch WandaVision? You know, I started it, didn't finish it. Same reason. I just didn't get the appeal it's just not something that i just don't understand do you like it i know i i famously have not watched any of them because i'm like a just like a completionist and and i've said this before in the show like the tick at
Starting point is 00:16:20 which these films came out was too much for me to keep up with and so i was just like no i'm not i can't do this this is too many films to like understand the other films so a lot of listeners have been like just watch these six in this order and it'll make sense and i'm like it's just a huge time investment and it's too much it's a little bit hard for me but yeah i get it people you know they're they're really caught up in them see you i'm i feel like they just be baking them up as they go along too like yeah it's like y'all have 12 movies like two tv shows i gotta watch to make it all make sense like right yeah oh man wait to the new show thanos's sandal oh my god wait till you see the storylines about that just his footwear it's like are we we got all kinds of threads that were going down. But yeah, I like Spider-Man into the Spider-Verse. I thought that was cool. Have you seen that? Right. I like that.iverse and the idea that like all the Marvel different movies are
Starting point is 00:17:26 part of like some multiverse that's going to intersect and like that that movie interacts with that in an interesting way I'm starting to get excited about the Marvel Cinematic Universe just from for my three-year-old because he's like now real into like all these characters, even though he's like never, all he's seen is like pictures of them. And so I'm just like imagining when he can like finally watch the movies, like how much it's going to make his brain melt
Starting point is 00:17:58 and leak out of his ears. Yeah, or he's going to be jumping off shit. Yeah. He's a super, because that- Oh, he already does that. Me watching, yeah, me watching like a few superhero things i had a bad habit of jumping off of shit thinking i wouldn't get hurt like when i was four but i would try and put enough couch cushions below me to not shatter my ankles completely like the you know the the versions that we had when I was a kid and into superheroes were a Hulk TV show and Batman the 60s TV show.
Starting point is 00:18:30 I was into it. That was good enough for me. Greatest American Hero, which was a joke, but I took it seriously. What is, Sara, something you think is overrated? I think that being diagnosed with ADHD on the app TikTok is underrated. And I think being diagnosed with lesbianism on the app TikTok is overrated. Okay, walk me through these. Okay, so lately, if you've been on TikTok, and even if you haven't,
Starting point is 00:19:09 there's like a widespread phenomenon of women starting to use TikTok and then their For You page, the algorithmically decided feed, starts showing them more and more lesbian content and content about compulsory heterosexuality or heteronormativity or whatever. And as a result, a lot of women are like, ha ha, TikTok thinks I'm gay, but I'm not.
Starting point is 00:19:34 And then like six months later, they're like, hmm, turns out I am gay. And it took TikTok 20 minutes to figure out that I was gay based on my activity when I didn't know. And I'm like, you know, 30 years old activity when I didn't know. And I'm like, you know, 30 years old or whatever the fuck. Right. And I'd be interested in hearing from the people in their lives if they knew, like if everybody around them knew and they were the last to find out. I think, okay, based on personal experience, yes. I remember when i was younger having like a lot of i would make friends with gay or queer people and they would be like are you sure you're not gay and i'd be like yeah and they were like okay but are you sure though and i was like yeah i'm just like really comfortable
Starting point is 00:20:21 with other gay people i mean gay people and they were like okay but with other gay people. I mean, gay people. And they were like, okay, but are you gay? And I was like, no. And then I like cut all my hair off and they were like, you're gay. And I was like, no, I just don't want men to talk to me. And they're like, I think you're gay. And I was like, no, it's just that I'm kind of like terrified of men sometimes, but I'm also definitely attracted to them, but not women. But then all, you know, when you, if you have short hair and you're a girl, a lot of women just assume you're gay and then we'll hit on you. And then you're like, well, this isn't so bad, actually. This is kind of nice. And so are there, are there people who have been on TikTok now who
Starting point is 00:20:59 are like, I realized through this algorithm that I like, I had a moment of self-discovery realization because of talk yeah wow okay and then what's and what about the adhd one so the adhd one i i actually i switched these being diagnosed with adhd is overrated being diagnosed with lesbianism is underrated okay got it like diagnosed by yeah as a concept well the algorithm fucking pitches shit to you. They'll start showing you something and if you interact with it, and by interact I mean even just watch the
Starting point is 00:21:31 video in full or watch it multiple times or pause it and then restart it, they'll show you a ton more shit like that. The algorithm is constantly throwing shit at you that is popular or that it thinks you will like and then responding instantaneously based on your this is why tiktok is so addicting because it is so responsive and the algorithm is
Starting point is 00:21:51 so responsive but anyway so a big thing on tiktok is like there's a lot of people with adhd on tiktok who are there being like hey what's up here's my life with adhd here's like you know research stuff you might want to know if you have ADD or whatnot. And, you know, a lot of people have made the observation that TikTok definitely fucking destroys your attention span. And so if you have ADD already and you're on TikTok, it's like impossible to get out of it. And it's actually a really bad, very overstimulating thing for you to do. And if you don't have ADD, you will begin to experience a lot of the symptoms that people with ADHD experience all the time because you're on the
Starting point is 00:22:32 app that is like constantly fragmenting your focus and throwing distractions at you at like the speed of light. And so, you know, when you go on TikTok and they're like, hey, do you do you feel like you can't focus and like you have a hard time getting offline? And you're like, yeah, I'm on this app. I'm on the thing that's doing. Yeah. Yeah. I'm on the like the screen version of cocaine. Of course, I have a hard time focusing.
Starting point is 00:23:00 Right. Right. And then people are just like, man, do I? It's like, well, well hold on zoom out for a second realize what the activity you're engaged in right because it's like if you got off tiktok and you still felt all those things yeah for sure like you might have adhd but like if you're on tiktok all bets are off dude like this is this is like it's like they threw crack cocaine into our onto our minds again they were like hey man hey, man, are you fucked up?
Starting point is 00:23:25 Are you mentally ill? And you're like, no, I'm actually on a drug. I'm fine, dude. I'm fine. I'm on drugs right now. Yeah, I feel crazy. I'm on drugs. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:35 I feel like I remember because when I get caught, because it knows your boy used to dabble in the dark street arts because I get all kinds of trafficking content on TikTok and like basketball jokes. It's mine is dancing, basketball jokes, drug trafficking and construction workers showing their packed lunches. Oh, interesting. Drug trafficking because I get sex trafficking because it knows I'm a girl. And so I get all of these videos that are like girls, know telling a story where they're like you know me uh being uh whatever you know sometimes like meeting a guy who has a van you know and then it's like and they're like i was trafficked and it's just like raising awareness or something i don't
Starting point is 00:24:16 fucking know but now i'm terrified right yeah and then it's funny you get you get stuck on there just scrolling scrolling scrolling and then like every you know like 700 videos that one comes like hey hey hey hey hey want to take a break hey how about a break you want to take a break real quick you should take a break here's some tips on how to take a break you know because you've been on this motherfucker for a minute that we're even oh really introduce a slight bit of responsibility as a platform to you yes jack when you are on tiktok for like over an hour and a half a a video comes up of a guy whose face I now know intimately. He's like MySpace Tom now. Yes, he's like MySpace Tom now.
Starting point is 00:24:51 And he says to me, hey, you've been scrolling for a long time. Maybe it's time to go to bed. There will still be videos in the morning. Oh, my God. You're like, shut the fuck up for narco videos. Jack, you don't even know how advanced TikTok is. They are regulating you so you don't get burned out. So you keep doing that.
Starting point is 00:25:10 That's mean to be like, hey, like they should just like make the app like start to malfunction or something instead of being like, hey, we're worried about you here at TikTok. It's like, fuck you, man. It's like, no, you're not, dude. You keep shoveling all this other shit in my face. Like, yeah,'m okay we're worried that you won't come back if you do this if you go too hard
Starting point is 00:25:29 on tiktok please if you let us harvest all of your data today there will be no data left to harvest tomorrow exactly we don't want to burn you out one must seed the data fields you have to leave one of your data fields fallow every year. Right, right. Grow new data and mine it later. Data crop rotation. Yes. All right. Let's take a quick break and we will be right back. I've been thinking about you. I want you back in my life.
Starting point is 00:26:02 It's too late for that. I have a proposal for you. Come up here and in my life. It's too late for that. I have a proposal for you. Come up here and document my project. All you need to do is record everything like you always do. One session. 24 hours. BPM 110. 120.
Starting point is 00:26:18 She's terrified. Should we wake her up? Absolutely not. What was that? You didn't figure it out? I think I need to hear you say it. That was live audio of a woman's nightmare. This machine is approved and everything? You're allowed to be doing this? We passed the review board a year ago. We're not hurting people. There's nothing dangerous about what you're doing. They're just dreams.
Starting point is 00:26:41 Nothing dangerous about what you're doing. They're just dreams. Dream Sequence is a new horror thriller from Blumhouse Television, iHeartRadio, and Realm. Listen to Dream Sequence on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Fantasy football fans, the NFL season is here, and now is the time to get ready to dominate your leagues. The best way to crush your opponents this season is to listen to the nfl fantasy football podcast come hang out with
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Starting point is 00:27:50 you get your podcasts. In 1982, Atari players had one thing on their minds, Sword Quest. This wasn't just a new game. Atari promised 150 grand in prizes to four finalists. But the prizes disappeared. And what started as a video game promotion became one of the most controversial moments in 80s pop culture. I just don't believe they exist. I mean, my reaction, shock and awe. That sword was amazing. It was so beautiful. I'm Jamie Loftus. Join me this spring for The Legend of Sword Quest, a podcast about the fall of Atari and the disappearing Sword Quest prizes. We'll follow the quest for lost treasure across four decades. It's almost like a metaphor for the industry and Atari itself in a way.
Starting point is 00:28:40 Listen to The Legend of Sword Quest on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This summer, the nation watched as the Republican nominee for president was the target of two assassination attempts, separated by two months. These events were mirrored nearly 50 years ago when President Gerald Ford faced two attempts on his life in less than three weeks. President Gerald R. Ford came stunningly close to being the victim of an assassin today. And these are the only two times we know of that a woman has tried to assassinate a U.S. president. One was the protege of infamous cult leader Charles Manson. I always felt like Lynette was kind of his right-hand woman.
Starting point is 00:29:24 The other, a middle-aged housewife working undercover for the FBI in a violent revolutionary underground. Identified by police as Sarah Jean Moore. The story of one strange and violent summer. This is Rip Current, available now with new episodes every Thursday. Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. And Texas is Texas-ing big time. So Governor Greg Abbott and his merry band of fascists have not given up on passing a bunch of bills that would turn the clock back to the 1930s-ish in terms of voting rights. Maybe in the fucking 1830s. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:16 This is so bad. Yeah, we might be being too hard on the 1930s. hard on the 1930s but the uh yeah you know they see the demographic changes that are coming their way and they need to protect their you know white supremacy yeah so they are doing everything they can to make it so that you know the population as it exists in tex't vote. Yeah. I mean, that's the easiest way to hold on to power when you have a platform that is unappealing to most and it completely doesn't acknowledge the humanity of the people that live in your state. So the bills, we've talked about this because a lot of Republican controlled states after the presidential election and because of the big lie, they're using this premise of like, we need more voter security to essentially strip away all the ways that makes it easier for people to vote. And that's how they're potentially
Starting point is 00:31:14 combating the voter security question, which is a total fallacy. So in Texas, they want to ban drive-through polling places. They want to just severely restrict absentee voting and 24-hour voting, which helps if you have a restrictive job schedule that you have the ability to vote at any time of day. And even most fucked up is give poll watchers essentially the ability to just be at a polling place and intimidate the fuck out of whoever they want. And really, again, create create scenes that we haven't seen since, you know, say Jim Crow. And this isn't the first time they've tried to do this. The last time they tried to pass the bills, Democrats left in protest. They left like the Capitol to, you know, prevent them from achieving a quorum to actually have a vote. And then this time that the governor called a special session,
Starting point is 00:32:05 they wanted to force a vote. But now over 50 Democrats, they chartered planes to leave the state again to this time to prevent them from achieving a quorum to have a vote to go to D.C. to lobby their federal counterparts to pass some fucking bills. right now in the senate we see like with the for whatever reason the intent to hold on to the filibuster is preventing you know hr1 and for the people act like the robust voting rights bills that we're trying to pass that would make it easier for everyone to vote not just democrats republic fucking everyone just to say hey this is how it works right we vote here and hey may the best thing win yeah exactly so one of the state representatives martinez fisher he said quote
Starting point is 00:32:50 this is a moment that is going to wake america up we have to decide if we're going to stand for democracy we want the nation to join us and we want the u.s senate to hear us and act because this isn't this isn't you know them saying they just don't agree with the legislation like they're there for votes that they're constantly outnumbered in and they still vote for them to leave they're trying to show everybody this is so outside of the norms that people need to be paying attention to what's happening here to the point that they're risking quote-unquote arrest and i use that term loosely because governor abbott is like doing wwe style commentary he's like and i'll keep doing special votes and special sessions until we get to election day and i don't care and if they come back i will send the sheriffs or whatever to
Starting point is 00:33:36 arrest these members and cabin them yeah essentially they will be arrested and arrested and cabined until they vote but again there aren't any laws on the books that actually like that would make that legal. They're doing say it's a crime, but they did just vote to authorize the sergeant at arms to go out and arrest the legislators. But again, that's something their jurisdiction is restricted to Texas. And, you know, it's a lot of it's a lot of blustering, but is happening. would you know it's a lot of it's a lot of blustering but is happening it's so crazy to me that texas is the state that culturally is like don't tread on me small state get out of my affairs liberty for all and then it's like okay uh what about me i'm a woman and would like to have control over my body shut the fuck no no you It's like, what about me? I vote for a different party. No, fuck you too.
Starting point is 00:34:27 Look at the fine print, asshole. Terms and restrictions apply. It's so naked. It's crazy that they can get away with it and it's so naked. I had to Google this because it's too perfect. There's a quote by Hunter S. Thompson, which is so prescient. The Republican establishment is haunted by painful memories of what happened to old man Bush in 92. He peaked too early and had no response to it's the economy, stupid, which has always
Starting point is 00:34:54 been the case. Every GOP administration since 1952 has let the military industrial complex loot the treasury and plunge the nation into debt on the excuse of wartime economic emergency. Nixon quickly comes to mind, along with Reagan and his ridiculous trickle-down theory of US economic policy. If the rich get richer, the theory goes, long before their pots will overflow, it will somehow trickle down to the poor who would rather eat scraps off the Bush family plates than eat nothing at all. Republicans have never approved of democracy and they never will. It goes back to pre-industrialica when only white male property owners could vote
Starting point is 00:35:29 yeah yeah that's it it's still the same thing still the same agenda just new characters new costumes it's but it's like it's if it didn't affect so many people in such an awful way it would be interesting to observe from a scientific point of view because the group of people there you know taking the rights away from is increasing and the amount of people that they represent is shrinking so they have to do these more and more tyrannical things and like yeah just nakedly anti-democratic you know borderline authoritarian law making to suppress the vote and it's like at what point did they trip over the line where people are actually like yo what the fuck you can like this is crazy it's hard i mean it's it's bubbling up because right now a lot of especially democrats and progressives and and anyone who's interested in voting rights are
Starting point is 00:36:23 looking at what's happening in the lack of movement from especially the senate because we have this stupid arcane mechanism called the filibuster in place uh where if you watch on msnbc even for msnbc you'll have people like casey hunt say call the filibuster the tool of the minority rather than a relic of the most racist times but okay msnBC, thank you for your really cool coverage. But like, you know, they won't do away with it because that is one of the biggest roadblocks to passing a lot of these bills to have, like even with the just, you know, math, slim mathematical majority that the Democrats have. And hopefully I think these legislators from Texas are hoping to put more pressure on these senators and people in Congress to do something because they're saying,
Starting point is 00:37:10 if you don't handle it up here, we don't have the numbers to do it at the state level. So this is the only place where you're going to ensure any kind of outcome, especially for your federal offices as well. This affects everyone. And I think a lot of us here are looking at the president and Joe Biden and wondering like, oh, you at this point, it just seems like he's refusing to really take this seriously, because I think like, you know, without the filibuster in place, a lot of real progressive policy could come through that would change things for, you know, the I guess the status quo in D.C. Well, it's necessary like that. That's the thing that I think people are ignoring is that like you said, Tim, like because the demographics are changing, the Republicans are going to like this is only going to get
Starting point is 00:37:59 worse and more blatant. Their authoritarianism is only going to get more extreme and there needs to be changes to the laws to to protect against that but i think people are just because trump lost the election they're just less less concerned about it and like paying less attention but like the central like republican party has only grown more and more like startlingly authoritarian and nothing nothing's really being done about it do you remember i think it was the second obama election and the republicans got their ass handed to them and then they came out with that report about the changing demographics of the country and how they needed to basically extend an olive branch to the hispanic community
Starting point is 00:38:47 yeah and like they were you know you get these little i mean that maybe that was that was it and then they ignored it but there are these little signs that every now and then they kind of know what they need to do and then they just go and ignore it and that's why i say like it doesn't have to be you don't have to walk down this road of absolute tyranny. And I think they're only doing it because they're so entrenched in the system of just fulfilling the wishes of these billionaires that fund the party. And not to say that the Democrats don't do their own version of that, but it just seems
Starting point is 00:39:20 like such a smaller, richer, more evil minority of people who are calling the shots with the GOP. But I did want to ask you, Tim, what is registering for voting like in New Zealand? Like how many forms do you have to fill out? How many different times do you have to make sure that you are registered? And then which IDs and proofs of address do you need to bring to the poll to make sure that you are registered to vote? In our last general election, which was last year, we had attached to the general election where you pick what party is going to be in power and what politician will represent your
Starting point is 00:40:00 area that you live in. We also had a referendum on cannabis law reform and i went to the polls stoned with no wallet id or anything and cast my vote that's how it like it literally could not be easier to vote in new zealand do you just fill out you just sort of you self-identify like on your ballot so they know who the vote is attributed to or how does it how do we've gone um we've actually got some pretty good systems so there's like there there genuinely has been a massive effort in new zealand to make it as easy as possible and we've got i can't remember what they're called but they're like
Starting point is 00:40:37 an easy vote card so you register you know a little bit early or you make sure that your details are correct on the electoral roll and then they will post you just a little business card size slip of paper that's got a number on it. You go and you take that to a polling volunteer at the polling station on the day and that's it. There's a sheet of paper. I think it's actually may even be pre-filled with your name and then you just tick a couple of boxes and that's your ballot cast. And the lines are really short i i don't want to rub it in because i i see the news footage of you know especially minority communities just waiting in the cold for 12 hours and
Starting point is 00:41:16 people delivering them food just to cast a ballot and it breaks my fucking heart man and again it's one of those like huge disconnects between america exporting the story of itself being you know the greatest democracy in the world and the birthplace of modern democracy it's like you fucking kidding me no yep we we just have the best pr machine ever it's great to have dreams it's great to have goals but you gotta kind of be real about your current situation and what you're going to do to to hit them you know but it's like an x-factor judge where the u.s is doing their act as great democracy like we love what you did but i know i had to hit the buzzer on that because it was falling a little bit short in the accuracy department just keep working at it and we hope to see you next season yeah can see the
Starting point is 00:41:59 intent though the intent is there and i and i appreciate that but the i feel like americans don't even acknowledge like how simple the government could make it if they wanted to like it is super intentional yes if i can tell you one thing from new zealand it is and it's like i imagine really expensive to do that like it seems to me just intrinsically like it would be cheaper to just give people to allow people to vote and not put these roadblocks up because all of them represent a barrier that someone's gotta you know force in like these id checks and that someone someone's actually gotta be there doing those id checks where there's gotta be a system or whatever it's right you know everyone's heard this a million times before it's not about
Starting point is 00:42:45 voter fraud voter fraud does not exist in any statistical way in america it's not and when it does it's typically it's been republicans that have been caught over the last year who've been like i'm sorry man i've made my dad get caught out then like half his family vote in a different state to where they reside to try and like swing shit i mean i think they were just errantly vote i mean it's again it's like it's like these stupid little attempts from people thinking they're going to be heroes by doing this really light voter fraud but yeah that's all that you know this whole concept because to your point of like it's never just it's if the white ruling class and that balance of power begins to
Starting point is 00:43:25 be upset, this is when the bills start coming in. This is when state houses start gerrymandering. This is when they started restricting voting rights because, again, they like voting only if it serves their purposes. And now we're seeing them like, oh, OK, there's too many of them. We got to pull up the we got to pull up the ladders. We got to make sure that it's impossible now because this thing's going to get away from us. And the freaky thing is the Republicans have understood for a long time how to do this structural stuff. Organizations like the Federalist Society, they understand the power of state legislatures and getting judges on the benches. All this shit that, like, I imagine typical Americans don't really pay much attention to because you're living your goddamn lives you know you're keeping the lights on you're trying to pay rent look after
Starting point is 00:44:08 your family and the republicans are like putting all of the most dastardly people in these roles right they can just tweak shit enough and a little bit here and a little bit there in this court and you know the sheriff's department and then all of a sudden yeah you've got like a third of the state that can't cast a ballot it's yeah so crazy america loves to brag about how we have like the best colleges in the world but all are like educated all that education is going towards uh like educating people to be in the federalist society to like come up with convoluted ways to make voting harder and i gotta say this though and advertising the advertising industry i get i get sweeped up in this stuff when i'm on podcasts like this and i've i've got to just put
Starting point is 00:44:51 it on the record i fucking love america and i love americans okay okay yeah i mean nothing you said please and nothing you've said would indicate otherwise. I mean, the only thing you've criticized. Have you been on podcasts where you said something, you made an observation about America and be like, this guy fucking hates America, man. It's very easy to get into a death spiral about how bad the democratic process is over there. People are like, fuck you, foreigner.
Starting point is 00:45:20 No, welcome to this show. It's called the Daily Death Spiral. Yes. Yeah, I was listening to your stand-up about how much more progressive the healthcare system in Grand Theft Auto is than the U.S. healthcare system. I thought that was a really good observation. Yeah, thanks, man. And no lies.
Starting point is 00:45:39 Not a single lie detected. Even that name has a utopia of a medical it's like it's wish fulfillment it's like god damn did you imagine all right real quick before you uh blast off let's go to space real quick so richard branson went to space first of all i just want to say the headline on drudge report uh right wing media outlet but it's uh like outlet, but it's just a single page with a bunch of links, and it still competes with New York Times for page views. This is the most popular news single page in America, so I always like to check it.
Starting point is 00:46:22 And on Sunday, their headline was Richard Branson, Branson blast off with the big headline. And then above that, Death Valley hits 130 degrees Fahrenheit within four degrees of world record! Palm Springs, highest ever temps per month. Record temperature, strain power supply. USA, hottest June. Reservoir reservoirs drying up in addition to this being just like a boring pissing contest between rich guys apparently bezos is not impressed with branson's uh he did branson didn't break the carbon barrier which is the internationally recognized barrier for space and oh shit bezos like that he didn't really go to space and mean, they didn't do a good job convincing me either with the video. They just they didn't even like put on astronaut suits.
Starting point is 00:47:10 They were just like in sunglasses floating around. But commercial baby, you know what I mean? Yeah, man. The shits and giggles. But yeah, I just keep picturing Bezos and Branson like saying, wee, as they fly into space and contributing nothing to the mission and the actual astronauts having to like stop their complicated work to like look over and be like, yeah, wow, you're really doing it, sir. This is great, great work.
Starting point is 00:47:38 Yeah, just over and over, Bezos is like, this is so fucking sick right now. This is so sick. Thank you, Mr. Bezos. I'm checking the telemetry right now. This is so sick. Thank you, Mr. Bezos. I'm checking the telemetry right now. This is so fucking sick. I can't believe it. That was approximately how eloquent Branson was. He was like, I've done some ridiculous stuff, but dude, that was ridiculous.
Starting point is 00:47:59 That was his, that's one small step for man was, dude, for donk. Well, he told, he was like, for all the dreamers out there, he's like, I'm a grown man in a spaceship. Believe your dreams. I'm like, you're in a plane that went up that didn't even bust the Carby barrier full. Just relax and do something with your money to help the earth that you left that is on fire as we speak but yeah that just that like i feel like a movie wouldn't put those headlines right next to each other during the like headline reel where when a movie's like trying to montage past a an apocalypse to get to the post-apocalypse like having them on the same headline is a lot like that's yeah very on the nose yeah the shit that rich white people do is
Starting point is 00:48:47 astounding to me and and it's mostly because like let me let me ask you something miles and jack like could you imagine jay-z going to space i could you could i can't imagine that nigga going to space i mean look he signed a deal with the nfl but but going to space I mean, look, he signed a deal with the NFL. But going to space? Nah, brother. You mean on his dime? No, in general.
Starting point is 00:49:09 Jay-Z grew up poor. Jay-Z ain't about to go nowhere that's going to kill him like that easily and lose all his damn money, right? I mean, after seeing him on a wave runner with his vacation hair, I'm like, I think I've seen it all with Jay. But yes, with this, what you're putting down right now, yes, I do. I understand the points you're making for sure. Like, it's just, you know, listen, we could talk about richness all we want. Capitalism, billionaires, blah, blah, blah. But somebody get Jack. He's a billion dollars. First of all, I'll help some people. Right. I'm still going to keep my I'm still going to keep a lot of my money, but I'll help a lot of people. You know what I'm saying? I'll tell you what I'm not doing. I'm not going to fucking space. I'm not doing shit that's going to fucking space i'm not doing shit that's
Starting point is 00:49:45 gonna be close to killing my ass one thing can go wrong the most i'm doing is getting on a plane that's the most thing that's the most i'm doing i'm not jumping out of a plane i'm not going beyond the atmosphere i just don't understand like what makes you want to say well what have i done i've made i've made 400 billion dollars oh fuck let's go to space like i don't i don't understand it it's so wild to me and that we just let them there's just like a fork in the road i think for really wealthy people where it's like okay like i've bought everything that can be owned and then you're sort of like okay and then you get to this fork in the road which is like maybe help people like in a significant way or the other side of the road goes build spaceship yeah and they're like yeah yeah yeah build spaceship build spaceship i'm also mad they
Starting point is 00:50:34 go into space because i'm tired of i'm tired of like twitter memes and shit about like it's just i'm so tired of people oh well they're fucking the planet, so they're trying to leave it. Like, okay. It all spawns just boring takes. It's very boring. It's all boring. It's so on the nose, it's boring. It's so boring.
Starting point is 00:50:57 You gotta, I mean, they're doing, like, you don't need a meme, because the meme, like, all the writing is there in this video. It is, yeah. Yeah. But yeah i that's a really good point about just like that so something about the uh confluence of like personality defects that makes you become a billionaire it's going to space it's wanting to
Starting point is 00:51:21 like feel proud of that there's like some bad person energy like i'm reading this book the power broker about uh robert moses and the guy who like designed a lot of new york city and was like a racist piece of shit and like early on he's like this super idealistic guy and he's publishing a paper that he worked on with like 20 people who adored him who he was like really good leader to and then when it comes to like taking credit for the report he just like takes all their names off of the report like he's just there's just like these certain character defects that make you really successful in america and they also happen to make you like a very shitty person. And I feel like going really wanting to go to space and like, have people recognize you as guy
Starting point is 00:52:13 in space is is one of them. Like even with Trump, miles, you were pointing out like, even Trump, like wanted to get involved as like a wannabe billionaire. Absolutely. He's even, when he was, Trump took credit for them going to space. He said, I'd rather see Richard in the plane today than me in the spaceship. Richard loves it and Bezos loves it. And a lot of rich guys love space, okay?
Starting point is 00:52:35 You will explain that someday, but they do love space. That's a real quote he said out his mouth. And then he goes on to say, they love sending rocket ships up and I made it possible for them to do this i actually said to my people let the private sector do it these guys want to come in with billions of dollars let's lease them facilities because you know you need certain facilities to send up rockets and we have those facilities we have
Starting point is 00:52:56 the greatest facilities now because of what i did we are leading the pack in space by far okay i'm so mad i'm so mad at Donald Trump. And let me tell you why. Let me tell you why. Hey, what's going on? You know, I overall think the presidency is bad in general. I know I'm about to upset a bunch of people out here, but I think even if Lord Bernie Sanders got into the White House,
Starting point is 00:53:23 that nigga going to do some bad shit because just the office of the presidency is bad but some people would be better than others right i'm so mad that trump is on the lower spectrum if not the bottom of bad presidents because if he wasn't this nigga is the funniest motherfucker in the planet that i've ever seen like this he is pure comedy and i can't enjoy his comedy because he's such a terrible fucking person like what you just read is a scripted television show yeah it's a scripted television show that we can't enjoy because he's serious like and not in charming way not in like a fun way he's serious serious and all the crap that spews out of his mouth. A lot of rich guys love
Starting point is 00:54:08 space, okay? Once he's dead, I feel like Trump movies are going to be an entire genre because he is Michael Scott. He's a Michael Scott level comedic character just in reality.
Starting point is 00:54:23 But yeah, the fortunate reality is the stakes are so high that those like translate to real world outcomes that are just deadly that's they're just yeah that can fuck up a whole goddamn nation but like the immediate instinct at the at the front of that quote to be like look i don't even want to go to space like a like a kid who just lost a race and is like i didn't even want to win yeah he's like well better than me i would rather see richard in the plane than me in the spaceship richard loves it bezos loves it yeah but it's like that that was like that's not anybody else's thought except billionaires billionaires are the ones who are like looking at him being like motherfucker
Starting point is 00:55:12 so piss damn i'll space money also trump quit your line as you know your ass wouldn't go to space your scary ass hell no you know your ass wouldn't go, you wouldn't get near a rocket. Not at all. Almost definite. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Let's take a quick break.
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Starting point is 00:59:44 on a very small scale is being delivered to americans via a new ring product yeah drones baby yeah they i don't know why this would make anyone feel fucking good about anything but like you know ring and that entire home security industry like is built on like scaring the fuck out of people and getting them to buy into their version of reality where like every neighborhood in America is filled with dangerous people. And like the only way to protect yourself is to like have constant surveillance and apps where people can like talk shit about their neighbors and and, you know know and and get off some of the most racist takes you've ever seen and you know like we talked about how like when ring was bought by amazon then they were putting out ads for like looking for crime reporters to help like create content for their ads again to keep this sort of cruel and unusual world narrative going for all their users and as if having a fuck ton of hackable cameras
Starting point is 01:00:47 wasn't enough to make you feel safe ring has announced this new product which is called the ring always home cam it's a fucking drone that will fly around your house so you can check all the nooks and crannies when you're out of the house. So I'll just read it like it looks so like it like looks like Wally's friend. It's made to look so non-aggressive, but it's a miniature quadcopter with a camera on it. And they say the Ring Always Home Cam is a drone camera that you can program to follow preset flight paths throughout your home. Yeah, you'll get the most out of it when paired with a Ring Alarm subscription, since the drone is automatically triggered to lift from its base to fly preset paths in the ad for it it was basically some person leaving their house and like setting their alarm but then a guy with a ski mask decided to
Starting point is 01:01:36 open a window and the alarm went off and then the drone's like like going to check and this guy's checking his phone and it looks like this like Steadicam shot going through your house and it arrives to the point of entry where this guy with the ski mask is in and the guy sees it and he's like, oh no,
Starting point is 01:01:53 I didn't know it was a little quadcopter. I'm going to go, you know what? Crime over and like leaves. And then it follows him home and he decides to change his life and go to college.
Starting point is 01:02:06 Exactly right. Become an go to college. Exactly. Become an engineer for Ring. Right. 100%. And it's weird that, like, again, as if we don't have enough ways for you to put cameras in your own home. Like, I guess they're trying to be like, stationary cameras are for victims. But, like, for those of us that embrace the surveillance state you can now invite it directly into your home and the potential for bad shit with this just seems infinite like the idea
Starting point is 01:02:33 that now you're going to deploy security drones within your home is just like such a nightmare such a situation for me but i just want to also point out that, you know, Amazon and the police are using ring cameras to basically privately crowdfund their own surveillance networks. And it's a little, I think not many people were of this all, but two States, Montana and Wyoming. This is from the verge quote now have police or fire departments participating in Amazon's ring network, which lets law enforcement ask users for footage from their Ring security cameras to assist with investigations. And they say now figures from Ring show more than 1189 departments joined the program in 2020 for a total of over 2000. And they're saying that even if you're a person who if the police say, hey, we'd like to
Starting point is 01:03:21 obtain some of the footage from your Ring camera, some people who own the cameras don't even have the ability to say no right they're just like amazon will just go around them and be like yeah okay here it is so this is just a very there's like so many layers to this that it just like there's gets spooky and spookier and spookier when you look at it what are the cops doing or not doing rather that they need like entire cities to be on ring camera? Right. Like this really I mean, this is this is all the ads that the defund the police movement really needs. Right. Like people still need to depend on like fucking cameras flying around every inch of their home.
Starting point is 01:04:02 And that still maybe doesn't even prevent the crime like what the hell do we have the cops for right and then we go separate like and then the rain camera gets super well it's like but what is crime is it a is it a symptom of a of a society where there's no social safety net and people are driven to such desperation that their only financial recourse are to commit property crimes hi i'm jeff bezos and blah blah but it's like like i don't know where they i yeah i feel like the simple question is wait what about police if i need super drone to shoo away a suspected burglary a burglar from my home right where are the cops watching my ring footage i guess like what but the cool stuff when it's
Starting point is 01:04:48 aimed at someone's backyard and they got a pool it's like okay that's not you're not enforcing anything have you have you seen any of like the youtube videos of people putting guns on quadcopters because that's happening i saw i mean i i saw terminator 2 judgment day so right it's basically i have an idea of what that's like yeah but you're saying people are now i mean just like home homespun homespun killer drones yeah yeah okay well yeah i mean that that that goes along with that like lego glolock set that just came out. Right. People, like, they're like, whoa, it's just cool.
Starting point is 01:05:28 It's just a gun that they glued Legos on to, like, make the gun more appealing to children. Yeah. Yeah. That's cool. But it can end a life. And because that's, because we're talking aesthetics here. one of the big arguments for gun ownership in America is like the fantasy of like that, that iconic figure of guy in ski mask breaking into house and getting to shoot someone with impunity.
Starting point is 01:05:55 And like, I can just imagine like, uh, it doesn't feel like it's much of a, much of a leap to a world where this thing rises out of the ground with a fucking handgun attached to it right so and again inherently like anything on that's internet connected could be hackable right so who knows what other eventual applications they have i don't know if anyone again i don't know who this is, but this seems like a very specific person who's consumed a lot of, you know, Facebook posts and like neighbor app posts to be like, yeah, yeah, yeah, I need this.
Starting point is 01:06:32 I need this. Only way to feel safe is drone. Just, yeah. They make, look, they make this shit look cute as hell in the commercial. I know. Like it's not some, it's not, you's not indicating what our bleak future looks like. It really was meant to look like a fun thing that would make someone reconsider committing a crime because it saw you. Well, let's talk about some good news in this crazy mixed up world.
Starting point is 01:06:58 A corporation bringing two groups together after at long last you know this has been years of these groups butting heads and heinz is is here to bring the hot dog people and the hot dog bun people together it's a i think it's a seinfeld joke maybe about like how you know hot dogs come in 10 packs hot dog buns come in eight what's the deal with that yeah and that that heinz is trying to broker a piece here broker a an accord between the two um don't they own the fucking aren't they all owned by the same like three companies anyway yeah general food or craft or whatever they fucking own the bread and the hot dog people is it really reaching across the aisle or i guess in this romantic version it is yeah i the the i'm pretty sure they are all owned by like one of two
Starting point is 01:08:01 companies so the reason that they're set that they have different counts is hot dogs used to be a thing that was sold by butchers and butchers tend to go with like the 10 pack uh for all things because that's just like what makes sense like what's the easiest to count and but then bakers go with eight because bakers i don't know they don't they don't play by your rules doesn't yeah yeah so i mean but that but that's not an even 10 like bakers are loose cannons when it comes to numbers they'll just they'll throw 13 rolls at you they don't give a fuck you know uh they're like our dozen is different than your dozen fuck the meat bread balance here's another loaf go but is it because maybe because eight because it's divisible by four
Starting point is 01:08:52 and twelve is their god the dozen is the the god of the of the baker yeah so it's basically i think the the reason the dozen is the god of the baker is the reason that they have the eight, which is that they have trays, like baking trays, that are built in fours. So you always have multiples of four for all baking products. Who's making the tens? Exactly. So that's what Heinz needs to be thinking about right here. So are they going to... Is this like a real thing? thing is this like a marketing thing it's just a marketing thing they're just trying to they had a bad damn it Jack I was hoping for substantive change they had a bad 2019 because
Starting point is 01:09:35 they were like embroiled in an accounting scandal that I know we all followed closely their CEO had to resign in 2019. Profits were already falling before the ketchup shortage during the pandemic, so they're like, we're back. It's not really like a growth product. It's not like people are still finding out about ketchup, so I don't
Starting point is 01:09:58 know. They're like, did you hear what they did? Who is this? Hi, company. Oh, they make the red stuff yeah oh so it's the so they're acting as so the the condiment maker is acting as the intermediary neutral third party to create this accord yes i see i see i I see. That's why I buy Nathan's. They come in eight, and the buns come in eight. Right. They match up.
Starting point is 01:10:28 Yeah. Because I have a terrible, I have a terrible, I hate when you got extra, I just can't handle that shit. It really bugs me. Again, along with me being a completionist and not watching a lot of the MCU films, I don't like getting a 10-pack of buns when I only have eight francs.
Starting point is 01:10:43 It's just... Therese, did you watch all the loki's no no okay any any thoughts on owen wilson well that that i think towards the end is when they like revealed the large mcu like crossover possibility i only know about this because toby mcguire was trending and my uh google alert that tells me every time toby mcguire's trending hit me up and wait not toby mcguire what who did toby mcguire play spider-man back in the day yeah yeah so people are like finally toby mcguire is gonna like enter into the mcu our dreams are answered i don't know people people are weird mcguire stands yeah oh yeah
Starting point is 01:11:26 the mcguire us mcguire stands and uh yeah that that so his name was trending which always intrigues me and uh that that was the reason because like they opened the possibility of like all the different marvel movies being connected and some great crossover event, which I think excites. So it's really just a scheme to remake the remakes and remake those. That's what I'm seeing. Yeah.
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