The Daily Zeitgeist - Weekly Zeitgeist 201 (Best of 11/8/21-11/12/21)

Episode Date: November 14, 2021

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, I'm Gianna Pradenti. And I'm Jermaine Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. There's a lot to figure out when you're just starting your career. That's where we come in. Think of us as your work besties
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Starting point is 00:02:19 Yeah. So without further ado, here is the weekly zeitgeist. Please welcome the brilliant and talented Blair Saki! Whoa! Oh my god, it's fucking great to be back. I love the zeitgeist. Hello Jack, hello Jamie. It's a legend's ball here. What'd you say? It's a what? It's a legend's ball. A legend's ball, hell yeah. We're all wearing wearing gowns also you can't see on the zoom call but yeah yeah always my my shirt like it looks like a button-up shirt
Starting point is 00:02:55 but it extends all the way to the ground how have you guys been you've both uh being i i so i did the bean up top to fit in the rhyme scheme of the eleanor rigby aka but now i'm just gonna pretend like i say it like that to kind of keep keep it going but uh you guys have both been traveling yeah we've both been traveling we've been we've been hopping around yeah best place you you've been on your uh on your travel where have you been blair where have you been at i've been in london i've been in los angeles a bit here and there yeah uh-huh you've been to london to visit the queen that is a children's book that you guys probably are not familiar with but that's cool how was london what's what's going on over in london
Starting point is 00:03:51 it was really cool i was shooting a pilot there but i hadn't been so i don't live in london one other time like many many years ago and it was cool to go after covid and everything and see see what's going on over there very cool i had some fish and chips and some mashed peas do you have bangers and mash is that that's london right yeah bangers and mash i didn't get to the bangers and mash but um i am a fan of the bangers and mash love it the best did you play a british person a british no i played myself unfortunately i wish i was playing a british yeah that would have been better and more fun i wanted to judge i mean you're a natural you're a natural british and jamie you you were out and about hitting the road road. What's new out there on the stages of America?
Starting point is 00:04:47 Anything? Oh, it's the same old shit, I tell you what. But in a good way, in a nice way. I went to Boston and New York and Philadelphia. I had a hot dog in Philadelphia that I was really wanting to get the morning after a show. Everything, it was perfect. The morning after a show. It's like everything. It was perfect. Like the morning after a show, I woke up just in time.
Starting point is 00:05:09 My friend gave me a ride and we got a hot dog that had a fish cake on top of it. On purpose? It wasn't even a mistake, Jack. Wow. Yeah, that was because I've been trying to get the hot dogs everywhere where you can't get it anywhere else. You know, like. Right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:26 They're like, oh, this is uniquely this city's bad idea. And speaking of which, you can get beans on hot dogs in a lot of places. I've been eating bean hot dogs. Wow. Yeah. What kind of beans? Like chili? There is like chili beans, but there's also just like in the Southwest, they just like do regular like canned beans or fried beans.
Starting point is 00:05:47 Like baked beans or like refried beans? Wow. Yeah. I mean, I guess that makes sense. It's really good. It's really good. I'm still in the hot dog hole. But yeah, I had a fish cake on a hot dog.
Starting point is 00:05:59 And I think that I feel comfortable saying that was that was close to the highlight. Wow. So it works. I love a hot dog like you, Jamie. I'm a hot dog freak also. They're so good. What's your favorite? Well, I think for nostalgia purposes, I like a Costco hot dog.
Starting point is 00:06:21 Have you ever had a Costco hot dog? They're really good. I used to badger the hell out of my mom to get me one when i was a child a company at like her on the shopping trip there's like they're like a dollar fifty and they're still like one of the best on the i feel like i've paid 12 i've paid more than 12 for a hot dog and it's not been as good as a Costco hot dog. Yeah. Shout out to Costco hot dogs. You're really holding it down for, I'd say, like 30 years or however long Costco's been open. Wow. Uninterrupted. Yeah. Yeah. Didn't their CEO threaten to resign if they like raised
Starting point is 00:07:00 the price on the hot dog or something? Oh my God. You never hear about that sort of integrity these days. Yeah. I'm pretty sure it's made up like by a CEO, like PR firm of some sort. I heard something. This is, this is a CEO story that's sad and I don't remember the whole thing. So I don't know why I started the sentence,
Starting point is 00:07:18 but there was something really sad that happened with the CEO of Texas Roadhouse. Someone should look into that. That sounds like it's like a, Oh, okay. sad that happened with the CEO of Texas Roadhouse. Someone should look into that. He died. Oh, okay. That sounds like it's a clue that a killer would give to the police. Sorry, this is
Starting point is 00:07:36 Mr. Policeman. I gave you all the clues. Google CEO of Texas Roadhouse. Something sad happened. I don't remember. Anyways, neither here nor there. What is something from your search history? King size pillows. King size pillows.
Starting point is 00:07:56 Just looking for some different pillows, you know? Okay. This is the thing. Since I've, in the last few months have been very i guess domestic and like looking to revamp things yeah so i'm looking for pillows i'm looking for sheets i'm looking for comforters damn you didn't have any of those things before this past month you gotta get but you know what if you have like a king size pillowcase with a queen pillow that's fucked up okay no one will respect you i'm a 34 year old woman just makes for a good uh weapon in a pillow fight but otherwise not good
Starting point is 00:08:31 you could suffocate all that extra fabric it gets stuck in your mouth and then you die i do yeah i do have a tendency to chew my pillow yeah just start you ever um looked at a pillow okay this is for a lot i I had a boyfriend. It's men. I'm going to say men. Yeah. His pillow, like, I remember changing the sheets one time. The pillow, I didn't understand how it had become.
Starting point is 00:08:55 The whole thing was brown. Yeah. All of it. Hmm. Like, have you ever looked at your pillows? Sweat? Like, out of the pillowcase? It's a nightmare.
Starting point is 00:09:04 Yeah, I mean, I remember growing up because like, I feel like my first pillows as like a kid were like probably like my dad's from when he was in college or something. So like, you know, like pillows, I just feel like weren't a thing I bought in my family. Like we had like a set number of pillows from the past generations that we had accumulated. And all the time I'd be like, when you take them off, I'd always be like, I like i'm like mom don't have to wash these she's like there put the case on and we'll just deal with it just don't ever look at it again i just remember being like it was gross it felt greasy i was like what is going on with this pillow it's uh yeah my uh pillows look like a fucking murder scene it's pretty bad yeah i don't know i don't know i don't know how
Starting point is 00:09:46 it happens but there's like orange rusty like shit coming out of my head at night and i don't like what are you doing at night do you like sleep fuck your pillow i do but like that still you wouldn't think that i do use a condom yeah so it shouldn't yeah i don't know it's it's really it's really hard to understand but yeah i i don't know it's it's really it's really hard to understand but yeah i i don't know i guess you just have to walk i think all that to say is you got to really make sure you wash any parts that can be washed rather than like there's a case on it there's a there's a thin fabric over it that will protect the rest of it that would be a good like somebody needs to do just a scientific mysteries of everyday
Starting point is 00:10:25 life and like what is leaking out of your head at night guys would be a good yeah it would be a good episode but but it passes through the case unscathed it's fine with the case right yeah and then it's just a nightmare i think i dro. I think that that might be part of it. And I usually have a candy bar in my mouth when I'm going to sleep. So that probably has something. That's where I hide my candies, in my pillowcase. And I forget it. Or secretly, you just suck it through the pillowcase so no one knows. Ew.
Starting point is 00:11:01 That's so weird. Good, good, good. No one's wise to it. There are all these jolly ranchers just stuck to the inside of my pillowcase oh man i think i had like melted jolly ranchers all over my bedroom when i was a kid because i would hide them and then yeah wait what do you mean you'd hide like like like like like the feds were coming and you're like yo you gotta fucking stash these or you would like lick them and then like forget them Maybe lick them and forget them.
Starting point is 00:11:25 I just remember finding a bunch of baseball cards that were fused together by a melted Jolly Rancher that was just in the back of my bookshelf. Again, don't have any recollection, but that kind of defines my life. I remember a grand total of probably two hours of my life and everything else is just a black hole so and simpsons references that you keep mistaking for your life exactly what is uh what's something you think is overrated being paranoid about buying fake shit
Starting point is 00:11:59 like i think it's partially because specifically the Chinese people I hang out with have started to come into a little money, so their asses are all buying Rolexes and shit. And I'm not there. And I suspect even if I could kind of afford it, would not be that type of person. So what I did do, I'm wearing it right now, really happy with it.
Starting point is 00:12:19 I got a reissue that is possibly fake from Alibaba of the the communist military chinese watch oh damn that's and it is like like it was like 180 it arrived in like the most like literally like it arrived in a plastic box that then looked like it was just like wrapped in basically paper towels and then like like a child had like used like clear plastic tape like it looked like it was just like wrapped in basically paper towels. And then like, like a child had like used like clear plastic tape. Like it looked like, I guess it looked, it looked most like a sort of like,
Starting point is 00:12:52 if I had to design an IED and I had 10 minutes to do it. Right. So I was like, shit, what do I have around the house? Bomb maker. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:02 It was like, so yeah, but you know, it arrived and then i was like man i i don't did i did i buy this from alibaba did i get ripped off and i was like who gives a fuck i'm down i i am now uh not that alibaba is less evil than like amazon but it's sort of like differently evil right that's another marketplace i was gonna say you know i'm i look at replica watches 180 sounds like a lot off there did you look dh game did you check out how about so it might be real is the thing because the they're telling you you're buying like a like
Starting point is 00:13:38 a the genuine article rather yeah so so the thing is the genuine article this is for anyone that gives a fuck uh this is a seagull 1963 chronometer and it even the genuine article is arguably a fake because it's like right maybe the factory yeah so the factory in tianjin in the 60s 50s like either stole the design or licensed it from it's like a swiss design that they kind of stole i'm not really clear on all the details anyway it's like bootlegs on top of bootlegs yeah i am embracing the chinese-ness of it got to but i'm good about it in general i think you know with like replica fashion like you know knockoffs becoming like a whole other level like versus like when we were kids and it's like what's on canal street or like
Starting point is 00:14:25 down at the alley like shit now is like people are getting away with selling shit on stock x which supposed to be thousands of dollars shoes that are replicas that are made abroad and like i just like how it up like the the outrage that it inspires in people who insist on paying like thousands of dollars for something where they're like oh that's fake dude like i'm like you don't like you're a kid and your whole value system is based on buying a thousand dollar pair of shoes like i hope your brain melts down when you say i bought these for a hundred well and it is like what is the utility it is the same thing with like yeah fucking nfts right like what is the actual utility of ownership of a thing with
Starting point is 00:15:05 only aesthetic value right like i'm like i don't need a watch to tell the time in fact i did i did like the most actually pathological thing in the movie theater the other day which is i used my phone to illuminate my watch hands so I could check the time. Excuse me, sorry. My brain is straight up broken. Gotta see how much longer is left in this movie. Which movie was it? It was French
Starting point is 00:15:36 Dispatch. I can't anymore of this shit. Anyway, embrace the fakes, y'all. Yeah, it's an idea that should have found its time. It makes total sense. But I just feel like it's too...
Starting point is 00:15:51 The idea of just reps replacing it, becoming the thing that matters, I just can't. It's too damaging to the foundational ethos of our country that I feel like they're going to find a way to end that shit. Well, that's why I was... Yeah, it's also like ripping off the communist design. I'm like, alright,
Starting point is 00:16:12 that's fine. The other thing with the other... I will say the other option with this watch that this company Seagull sells, they were selling a watch, I think... My Chinese is not good enough. It would have taken me forever to actually read all the Chinese, but it appeared to be commemorating the partitioning of Korea.
Starting point is 00:16:29 It was like, it was like the 38th parallel celebration, anti-US watch. Hell yeah. That's fucking dope. I was like, that's like probably a bridge too far for me to buy, but right.
Starting point is 00:16:43 Very intense. Yeah. anything that would outrage rich people i think is great you know yeah this one was i was like i think my south korean friends would be like that's kind of fucked up and i'm right right okay no but i mean i think of even like because you look at gucci and stuff their designs are starting to mimic what a knockoff would be like a lot of their hoodies now, like with the sort of crude screen print design and like throwback aesthetic, like they're sort of echoing the pirated material. Wasn't that the story of the big polo? Am I crazy? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:16 I think so. And but it's also funny to see people like who are like, man, like get so heated about someone who paid $70 for the thing that looks exactly like their $1,000 thing. Yeah. Because they need the exclusivity. Yeah. And I'm like, what people need to challenge that more? Challenge that shit more. Be like, I don't give a fuck.
Starting point is 00:17:33 Yeah, I'm in horrifically fake Versace. The fuck with you. This shit doesn't mean anything. Right. What is something you think is underrated? That is a great question. And a little out of left field. What is something you think is underrated? That is a great question and a little out of left field. I did not see that one come. But I guess if I had to say something, I would say baby names.
Starting point is 00:17:56 Okay. Baby names. This is no easy feat. It took us three days in the hospital before we decided. Yeah, he was nameless for three days. Now, my approach coming with the name Nick is that I don't want a name that three-fifths of my best friends have also. Sure. I mean, it is bonkers shout out to nick vatterot and nick rutherford who are those guys in my inner circle and it is insane
Starting point is 00:18:35 that there's so many of us and i don't want that for my kid right yeah yeah we also thought that tennessee was pretty cool and it would be nice and alliterative. Tennessee Turner, you know? Yeah. But that hits too hard. That's too good of a name. Yeah. Stick that in the middle, and it's an option for literature.
Starting point is 00:18:53 Yeah, if he wins a Grammy, then he can use it. Then he can start using it. If he's a college football star, I feel like that would be a good name. Or a show horse. Yeah. Or a show horse. Yeah, don't gender be a good name. Or a show horse. Yeah. Or a show horse. Yeah, don't gender my baby. He could be a show horse.
Starting point is 00:19:10 Yeah, that name all sounds like a turn of the century, like baseball pitcher. Tennessee Turner. Oh, Tennessee Turner. Oh, my. Or a baseball pitch. Oh, throwing the Tennessee Turner? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:22 Oh, yeah. Like an off-speed pitch? Yeah, or a pool shark. Yeah, pool shark yeah yeah absolutely a pool shark it's no it's no joke that name like that when you don't have a name and the baby's out is uh it's a real real process gut check yeah people really get upset it's like you know you thought people cared about what the gender was but once they confirm what the gender is then they come hard with what is that goddamn baby's name tell me now it matters how much does it weigh what's its name i need this yesterday on my desk yesterday you don't have a fucking name i'm calling calling CPS. Everybody at the hospital, it's the first thing they ask because they write the baby's name down.
Starting point is 00:20:10 Right. And so you go in and they're like, what's the name? Every person, we don't know. And they go, oh, you're waiting to find out what it looks like. You're waiting to see the baby. Yeah. You're like, absolutely not. I'm not.
Starting point is 00:20:24 We're just trying to come up with a good name. Who would do that? You don't look at a baby and it's like, yep, that's a Jack. Just a baby doesn't look like a Jack. A baby looks like another baby. Baby looks like baby. If you had to give it a name. If you waited.
Starting point is 00:20:39 Yeah. You'd be like, oh, tiny grandpa. Most of the kids. Yeah. Would just be bag of mayonnaise. Yeah. Yeah. You got nothing. But we went of the kids. Yeah. Would just be bag of mayonnaise. Yeah, yeah. He got nothing. But we went with Otis.
Starting point is 00:20:49 Yeah, which is a great news. We looked up what it meant and made sure it wasn't on any lists. Right. That's what we, yeah. We had Liam locked and loaded for the first five years of our marriage. And then once we started thinking about having kids, we looked at a name list and it had been the number one name and still remains the number one name. Yeah, it's still the number one name.
Starting point is 00:21:16 The Liam Neeson affection is strong, I guess. I don't know. Yeah, Gallagher. Yeah. Liam Gallagher is probably. I want a baby who can find me if I get taken. You're about to be taken, daddy. Someone who knows what a champagne supernova is.
Starting point is 00:21:37 Yes, thank you. And then, of course, as soon as I posted the name, a friend of mine texted me to say that uh her she had named her baby otis and i like moments before or no no uh years a couple of years ago okay but you just weren't up on it yeah i just i just forgot her you know whatever baby you know it goes over my head i don't care until it's relevant to me yeah exactly well you nailed it. So congratulations. Oh, thank you. Did you have a committee? It was my wife, my sister, and I were the only people who I was really letting in on the naming process. The second one who we didn't have a name for for the first couple days.
Starting point is 00:22:18 But that's how you know you trust somebody is when it's like, all right, I'm going to let you in the writer's room on this baby's name. I wouldn't even tell anyone like what we were thinking about. Yeah. Just because I don't want anyone's negative opinion. I don't want to see your face because it doesn't matter. You know, there's no good names. None of them make sense. Right.
Starting point is 00:22:43 And so, yeah, we had no committee. good names. None of them make sense. Right. And so, yeah, we had no committee. We just at that final day, we were like, the hospital was like, you have to name them by this day or else. Or else it's going to be way more paperwork. Yeah. It can't and it can't be untitled. How does it feel? Okay, fine. Give me another form then. Brown sugar. All right. Let's take a quick break and we'll be right back to talk about some news. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series
Starting point is 00:23:18 Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and LA-based Shekinah Church, an alleged cult that has impacted members for over two decades. Jessica and I will delve into the hidden truths between high control groups and interview dancers, church members, and others whose lives and careers have been impacted just like mine. Through powerful, in-depth interviews with former members and new chilling firsthand accounts, the series will illuminate untold and extremely necessary perspectives.
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Starting point is 00:27:07 So sign up for Body and Soul at katiecouric.com slash bodyandsoul. Taking better care of yourself is just a click away. And we're back. And we're back. And there was a horrible tragedy over the weekend at Travis Scott's Astroworld Music Festival during a Travis Scott performance, which are kind of known for the crowd just going off. I've seen many a video that made it look just out of control in a very fun way. And yeah, but this is just the kind of timeline on this, like, makes no sense, is really horrifying. And you hear about this shit a lot just in, like, soccer and, like, in other countries, just anytime there's, like, a big crowd gathered and it's very, like,pled underneath people's feet it's a thing it happens slowly and like people too behind you don't realize that they're crushing you it's it's really awful i mean yeah you look at what happened eight people passed away with hundreds of injured you know they're teenagers who were among the people that lost their lives and you, you know, from the way people describe it, like the real trouble started, you know,
Starting point is 00:28:28 like in the earlier in the day, like a bunch of people rushed the VIP entrance and like they just security just couldn't handle it. And like, you know, people were like, that's not a huge, that's not nothing new. You know, people are always going to rush Fed Gates at festivals because that's the time honored tradition
Starting point is 00:28:41 of being a young broke kid and getting that thrill in. But then as like the show, the festival went on and Travis was about to go on, there was a 30-minute countdown graphic that came on the screen. And that's when people started to move closer to the front of the stage. And it wasn't quite getting to the terrible point at that point, but that was sort of what began this movement towards the stage. And then about 35 minutes into him performing, the crush became so much that there were people that were passed out. They were trying to figure
Starting point is 00:29:10 out if some had actually had succumbed to their injuries and authorities had categorized it as a mass casualty event. And there were moments where you could see Travis was like in between songs, might say, hey, can you help this person or people you could hear the crowd saying stop the show. But with the size of the crowd and the music and things like that, just nothing apparently was happening. And the concert went on until 1015. And at that point, you know, the worst of it had happened, people were trampled, people had, you know, died from a number of different causes, probably from this rush of people. But now I think a lot of the focus is really turning on like, what happened? And how
Starting point is 00:29:51 could that happen? Because I think, at most, I've been to shows, a lot of people have been to shows where there's huge crowds. And you will hear sometimes, hey, like, kind of take a couple steps back, like we want to make sure it's safe for things like that. Or like you're saying, like in England, with the hillsborough disaster where 96 people died that completely changed even how football matches were even you know being secured or how they even thought of crowd movements and things like that and now it just seems like a lot of finger pointing not knowing who to quite blame there's already two lawsuits being filed against like Live Nation, Travis Scott, I think one even named Drake, because when he came on, like,
Starting point is 00:30:29 a lot of people moved forward too. So I'm not sure what the benefit of those lawsuits are more than like really understanding like where things went wrong. Because most of it, you know, a show like that with that many people, there's typically contingency plans in place to keep people safe. And I think that's where a lot of the, you know, the question marks around, were there enough security people? How prepared were, was the production to actually stop the show if things got bad enough? And who knew what, when? Because at this point, you know, there's just a lot of, like, I didn't realize it was that bad kind of stuff coming out of people like Travis Scott. I mean, the fact that they said the words mass casualty event at nine thirty eight and the show didn't end until ten fifteen.
Starting point is 00:31:10 Like, like, just turn the fucking lights on, like go up on stage and talk to Travis Scott and be like, hey, what? And, you know, there's a lot there's video clips of people climbing like the camera towers to plead with the camera operators to talk to someone and say like, there are people who are severely injured or, you know, there were, there were ambulances that were trying to make their way to through the crowd. But these, these concert goers are so turned up. They like hopped on the ambulance and kept it from getting to the people that were in need. And, you know, at this point, you know, Travis Scott, I think a lot of people have seen, he posted like an apology video that many were like, this feels so like your publicist, your crisis PR team just like told you to read this. It felt I don't know, whatever. He's probably in shock, too. But he's like, at the very least, costs for funerals for these eight people and also like offering mental health support for any of like the festival attendees for, you know, having to endure such a like horrible event.
Starting point is 00:32:14 But I think, you know, I think the thing that's very clear is there weren't enough people doing the right thing in terms of how the event was produced. Yeah. To prevent this. event was produced yeah to prevent this i heard that the security was really low as well so there just like wasn't enough people to just even like pull people out of the crowd if they had to then i saw something about did they have this the center like the split down the middle it looked like they had it set up like you know to have like those channels for security to like move through the crowd like those pens that they set up is that is that something that's usually done for safety or like to avoid well yeah because then they can the the security can monitor better right and you have
Starting point is 00:32:55 more exit access points yeah and you can let people into those areas too to like relieve the flow of people just to kind of you know it's all fluid dynamics of like where people are moving and where the pressure is because it's it's really underestimated how powerful these kind of crowd movements are like it can bend like steel can be bent from just people moving like this in one one massive you know body but yeah i i the a lot of like just reading like the accounts of the people were there, it's just like so many people were there to go have fun and just due to the negligence of, and lack of, I think proper protocols, it ends like this.
Starting point is 00:33:36 And it was wild. I read an article in like the Houston Chronicle where there were two veteran, like as they described it in the article two veteran concert concert promoters and producers who do a lot of big shows in texas they said they had some ideas about what may have gone wrong but they did not want to speak on the record out of fear of retribution from live nation because they're the largest producer of live events jesus so it's weird that they even put that in the article but i think that's something that also needs to be really addressed too where even that this this thing is so big too that there are people who'd be like they might not
Starting point is 00:34:09 do everything the best way or there's things that could have been done better they didn't even want to give that analysis to be like that could fuck my whole career up so yeah stakes are high yeah ultimately i feel like a lot of the attention is being paid to the artists and like really it comes down to the producers and the company that's in control of planning the fucking thing. Yeah, I think suing the artist isn't really going to do anything. No. It should be Live Nation. Yeah, because I mean, unless they can prove some negligence where Travis Scott has an earpiece and they're saying, Hey, you got to stop or whatever. And he's ignored, takes his earpiece out and he's ignoring it. Then that's one thing. But even then
Starting point is 00:34:50 you'd hope that there are people like he's not the be all end all with who decides what's happening when he doesn't have all of the facts. Like you'd think there's someone at the highest level to say, Nope, cut the, cut the fucking monitors, cut the speakers, put the security brief, like put the security notices on all the screens, put all the security announcements through the audio. There's no more music. But I think just right now, just a lot of people trying to, you know, just move through this tragedy. So I'm sure it's going to be an ongoing thing. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:18 Well, while we're down here in Texas, let's check in with the folks from QAnon because we did talk ahead of JFK Jr.'s appearance in Dealey Plaza, the site of his father's assassination where he became president and then stepped down in order to restore Trump as the one true God. I don't think that happened. I don't think so.
Starting point is 00:35:39 I Googled it right before we started recording and there wasn't anything about it. And I feel like that would have made news. That's why I'm in Texas. JFK back yet? Yeah. No. But so apparently a lot of a lot of the Q folks have remained in Dallas.
Starting point is 00:35:56 They've been returning to D.L.E. Yep. To stand in Q formation. Is that an actual thing? Like a guy, this dude, like Michael Protzman, he's like one of the people who was the main sort of QAnon influencers who got people, you know, real excited about this idea of him coming back. He had them like when, you know, I think the run of show was sort of like, yeah, JFK Jr. Tuesday night. And then when that didn't happen, it's like, all right, let's do some other fun stuff real quick since I got you guys here. I'm going to stand in the queue.
Starting point is 00:36:24 Maybe that'll work now. in a queue interesting it's like um it's like when uh you get that like free vacation but then you have to sit for like four hours they try to like sell you a timeshare timeshare right as all we're here excited to see uh jfk jr but what before i get to that a A timeshare. Who's here about to be retired? Greg, Greg. Okay, a lot of you. Greg, because we can talk. I'm just telling you the flexibility that's offered by buying into here.
Starting point is 00:36:52 I sat through one of those, by the way, for a free jet ski rental and free tequila. So that's all it took for me. Did it work out for you? I have a timeshare that's actually been really great. And I need some investors if you guys are interested. No. No, but I just like set. It was one of the more obnoxious four hours of my life.
Starting point is 00:37:12 God, for just tequila and a jet ski? Yeah. Yeah, that $100, that's your life you just gave away. Was that planning? I did. For like $60. That's on me. That's on me.
Starting point is 00:37:24 But yeah, like another thing, like people were kind of documenting what they were doing in Dallas over the week. At another point, there was this video where people lined up to talk to a guy with like a fucking parrot on his shoulder. And like they were single file and a guy kept telling him to look at this thing and they turn around. And like apparently there was something to do with like they saw a triangle, like, from a building near where Oswald may have been. So they're like, oh, see, that's the Illuminati because, you know, they put pyramids wherever they kill people. And, like, so that was, I guess, an activity. Sorry, I just fell asleep. What were you saying?
Starting point is 00:37:56 I know. It's an activity to see where people died. Hold on. Hold on. Because if you don't like that. Actually, that's every historic tour of Rebound. It is interesting. I've actually done the Dealey Plaza that... Actually, that's every historic tour of Urban Outback. It is interesting. I've actually done the Dealey Plaza tour.
Starting point is 00:38:08 So, there's the weirdo. Was there a guy with a parrot talking about the Illuminati? It's interesting because there's the JFK Jr. was assassinated here museum, but then there's just all these conspir... There's literally a shack down there that has all these conspiracy theory documents.'s literally like a shack down there where that has like all these conspiracy theory. Oh, like the Bigfoot Museum in Santa Cruz. Yeah, yeah, exactly. It's like a port-a-potty with some pictures.
Starting point is 00:38:32 It's a museum, okay? Get in here. But the thing is, despite the sad shit going on with, you know, JFK fucking not showing up and zombie form to restore trump to power this guy prodsman he's like i've got i've got some real news for you man the thing was he kind of got cold feet because because he's dead well let me tell you why because you're at the rolling stones concert and guess who was fucking at the rolling stones concert in fucking dallas i'm gonna play a clip of these people talking they got a fucking hotel like conference room at the hotel they're staying at just to kind of like talk like yell into a microphone and applaud each other about nonsense
Starting point is 00:39:15 just listen to this because if just listen okay i'm a little worried that i'm gonna listen to this and be totally converted to the q thing because everything you've mentioned sounds very convincing and rigorous i mean i found out a new conspiracy theory i really like about how um the sun's not real really it's just a bunch of reflectors and led lights go on you had me that's it that's the sun it's not real it's in the middle of night they took the sun away and they replaced it yeah they did with leds um so these are two clips unfortunately you can't get the one continuous clip because he gets like he gets cut off mid sentence but we'll continue in the next clip. Because he's talking about, you know, the people who went to the Rolling Stones concert, they saw a few people who you thought were dead, and they were fucking there.
Starting point is 00:40:15 This woman just said Prince was on drums. So Michael Jackson was Mick Jagger. Michael Jackson was Mick Jagger. Keith Richards was John John. John Cannon. John Kennan. JFK Jr. JFK Jr. 114.
Starting point is 00:40:31 Trump Card 114. Elvis was playing... Hold on. That's what I said is getting good. I will continue. This is a boomer fantasy. I'm sorry. Elvis was what? Elvis on keyboard. Famous keyboard player.
Starting point is 00:40:50 Elvis. Elvis. Piano. Prince was playing drums. Okay. You already said that. And Heels Up Harris being played by Aaliyah
Starting point is 00:41:04 was the backup singer that walked right down the runway, all the way to the front. It was featured in the show, in the song. Evil, it's only a shot away. It's only a shot away. Because it's, I- away because it's its is 48 okay so he starts doing his numerology to prove that these rolling stones is because the use of it's the very strange word if you think about those lyrics it doesn't make sense like why would he use that very strange word it's same as whatever so alia was back up singing prince on fucking drums el Elvis on keys, was it JFK as Keith Richards and Michael Jackson as Mick Jagger?
Starting point is 00:41:51 Uh-huh. I'm, I don't know. That's too much. Every aspect of this seems like, I don't know if I just have psychedelics on the brain because you're, you mentioned. You're near me? Because I'm near you and i've been breathing your uh exhalations no because it but they like your description of like them pointing at evidence of the illuminati like really felt like people who are like tripping and and then
Starting point is 00:42:20 this just he just seemed i mean he seems like he's blacked out, like just out on his feet, like hammered. He was it. There was a time where he like said and the woman I'm sleeping with, he gestured to like someone he's sharing a hotel room with and like made this weird joke. And everyone's like, but like people were like, the audience was very strange. And, you know, along with all this stuff, there was someone like on their, you know, telegram channel asking a question like, are we putting too much faith into this guy? Like he just said JFK was going to show up like all this wild shit that could never happen didn't happen. And now more of you are going along to remain in Dallas because you think there's a chance
Starting point is 00:43:02 that he could reappear. And this person was like chased out of the group and being called like a non-believer. So, you know, we already the cult aspect of this is pretty established. It's more like when you hear this stuff, I'm like, I just don't know what the end game is and where it goes.
Starting point is 00:43:17 Because not to say that this is the most mainstream Q stuff, but it is definitely part of that ecosystem. Like, where are they headed and is it just going to create a lot of people who are seeing all kinds of skewed meaning of you know what they're experiencing in their day-to-day and like beginning to like act out in real life and that's where i get real uneasy of seeing like where this stuff goes i think i mean i think so i think it's just it's a mix of like people being confused about what's going on bored and just like have very little meaning and
Starting point is 00:43:52 that's i mean kind of what capitalism does is it kind of you know gets rid of the meaning of your life when your life is just like work and money right and then suddenly you're a super spy right like you're yeah you're fucking james bond over here right they're all the guy uh bill bill pullman's care bill paxton's character from uh true lies that's who they all are i got a little dick it's pathetic but you're gonna shoot me his um his delivery like when he was saying like the prince on keyboard he was like staring into the camera because i think he knew that this was gonna like hit the media but he i don't know it's very people were at that concert you could just be like now that didn't happen right yeah they're like i'm sorry just even show me how this person was prince on just Just, I'm curious to know what the, again,
Starting point is 00:44:45 how they sustain this sort of logic of that person. Where the fuck was little Richard? Where was little Richard? Thank you. Exactly. Alright, let's check in with the Trump lineup.
Starting point is 00:45:00 Who is he endorsing these days? What are they all about? It seems like we're starting to see a trend here. Yeah. I mean, he's his hold on the GOP is pretty clear. And he butts heads with Republicans that are like only like 93 percent racist. So there's definitely like a type that he prefers. And it seems like especially for the people that he's endorsing, when you look at some of the people he's endorsed recently, they all have a very similar pattern of allegations of abuse. You know, like Herschel Walker, who's running for Senate in Georgia, has been accused
Starting point is 00:45:35 by his ex-wife and a former girlfriend of like, you know, threatening their lives or like pulling a gun on them. Max Miller is a former Trump aide who was briefly dating stephanie grisham who was the press secretary during their time at the white house and she had accused him of you know physical abuse and had also been arrested like for like fighting at hookah bars and all kinds just like just general you know like he likes to punch people in public it's like brown shirt shit like yeah then there's this guy sean parnell this this guy most recently sean parnell who's running in in pennsylvania got trump's blessing for saying many people yeah and many people like what's going on here again accusations of abuse from people in
Starting point is 00:46:17 his past uh physical violent stuff and then he made his worldview like really clear on a fox and like so then after this stuff came out people were like uh i'm not sure if you saw him when he was on fox and friends and started going off about like tyrant women and just to give you an idea again not to belabor the point but this is a soundbite of him sort of this is sort of his general vibe as a man and how he sees the world i feel like the whole happy wife happy life nonsense has done nothing but raise one generation of woman tyrants after the next maybe it's just now there's an entire generation of men that don't want to put up with the bs of a high maintenance narcissistic woman i also think that modern day feminism is driven a wedge between men and women the idea that a woman doesn't need a man to be successful,
Starting point is 00:47:07 the idea that a woman can live a happy and fulfilling life without a man, I think it's all nonsense. I've already had one failed marriage and I've been there, I've done that. But I look at women on Instagram when I stumble across their pages and the number one thing that turns me off the most is all the duck-billed selfies. The narcissistic duck-billed selfies. From an standpoint it used to be you know women were attracted to your strength because you could defend them from dinosaurs yeah i feel like that there it is dinosaur dad he's running for senate he's running for fucking Senate. But I when you look at sort of what the platform is with Trump at the helm, it really is like this pedal to the metal, like fuck progress shit. Like we want a guy who's literally evoking prehistoric man as part of his pursuit of a better America.
Starting point is 00:48:02 Part of his pursuit of a better America. And I mean, this is the thing like we've seen Trump, you know, it's pretty similar. He surrounds his people of a similar disposition or shitty character. So now when you see that this almost seems like a litmus test to get an endorsement from him, you can only imagine where the rhetoric and the policies are headed when this is the stuff that he's like, we have to get behind this. We have to get behind the guy who says women who take selfies are like narcissistic monsters. And I've already had one failed marriage. a comorbidity between like violent misogyny and a lot of problems in america whether it be like mass shootings just murder or you know this fucking white supremacist you know movement and it it makes sense because being afraid feeling threatened as in your manhood i feel like undergirds a lot of you know the character profiles of the people who are causing a lot of the problems in this country right because conservatism now just means go backwards right there's nothing there's this point they've
Starting point is 00:49:22 completely stopped contributing any kind of idea that someone be like, yeah, did you hear that thing? Mitt Romney said, if that were a policy that would make our lives easier. It's just been like, man, taxes are too much for us millionaires and regular people, huh, folks? Everything else is just about chipping away at fucking any semblance of progress, whether that's for like bodily autonomy or reproductive rights or LGBTQ civil rights, anything like that. It's like, no, no, no, we got to fucking take everything back, back, back, back, back. And I'm not sure how many people realize that's truly what the the deal is here and i know many people feel like we got to get back to like simpler times in america was this or that and we didn't have any idea of things like runaway misogyny or racism right but this is sort of you know i think this man truly would be like fuck shit was easier when women picked you based on if a dinosaur was going to eat her right because we were walking the earth at the same time as dinosaurs,
Starting point is 00:50:27 if you remember, because I'm a Christian. Right. That's facts. Facts, man. That's dude. I mean, what do you think? He sounds like a guy who took one. He heard about evolutionary biology from his freshman year college roommate
Starting point is 00:50:43 and then decided to just shoot off at the mouth constantly about it i don't know if you know like that's how like women pick men caveman times so what a fresh take on social media taking down the old duck face selfie right and which is kind of odd when you see where you'll see Republicans get progressive, because it always strikes me when you see like how Republican members of Congress are now like, man, we got to figure out legal banking for legal cannabis. And you're like, what? Where did you hear that? You're like, I got donors who are pretty in. So I got to like represent. It's like, wow. So you only pick that road when like there's money and someone's clearly being like, hey, man, we can make some fucking money. But like, you got to team up with Elizabeth Warren in this case to make this happen.
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Starting point is 00:56:30 even though I'm pretty sure there aren't that many nudists, like just in existence to like be inquiring that much. So the question becomes, would you green light this sitcom about a non-nudist couple living in a nudist resort for the for the good home price or another a secondary question would you would you do it i don't think so i wouldn't no i don't want to see that shit against my will you know i'll take a smaller yeah i'll see i'll take a smaller house somewhere uh where people have their clothes on.
Starting point is 00:57:07 Yeah, I don't want to see that, but that's just me. I think it would depend on where I was at in my housing search. But I think if I was really striking out, if I was being rejected for loans, if I couldn't find a place and I would, I would do it. If I could get to a certain point, I would do it. But only if I could live alone for some reason.
Starting point is 00:57:36 Right. I have so many questions about nudist colonies. Like, I mean, what are, what are the children wearing? Are they naked too? And then, you know, what are the children wearing? Are they naked, too? And then, you know, there's a lot of things I need to know.
Starting point is 00:57:51 I get the feeling no children allowed, I'm hoping. That seems... You and me both, Val. But then can you ban children from... I guess you can ban children from a colony? I don't know how the rules of colonies work. So you can only be a childless, naked adult there?
Starting point is 00:58:07 I hope so. Here's to hoping, Jamie. Yeah, you can't have naked... I actually never thought about how kids... You can't send kids to nudist school. Do you think they have night school for the adults and that's naked? How big does this go?
Starting point is 00:58:24 Yeah, I don't know. all the way to the top i have some concerns about the ecosystem there yeah i mean i feel like they're no okay actually now that you mentioned that no kids allowed you know i could just oh you do notoriously hate your own children so that is something to think about also what if you get cold and you want to put on a jacket i'm cold all the time like you know i need to put on my clothes well fortunately it's in the uh the tropical climes of toronto yeah i was like that is not one of like the coldest places? I think so. I think it's up there. Yeah. So I don't know.
Starting point is 00:59:07 It's just wild. I think it's a testament to, you know, late stage capitalism and how things are bad that 24,000 people have inquired for the property since it was listed on September 1st. Leave it to me to ask the scientific questions. Yeah, there you go. All right, let's talk Santa Claus. Yeah. Because it is that time of the year where people start complaining about how early people are talking about Christmas. So vaccines for kids are starting to roll out. vaccines for kids are starting to roll out. There was a big announcement last week that they were starting to do the planning and that kids could start signing up, which by the time you hear this, the internet will probably be flooded with anti-vax propaganda. I know a lot of parents
Starting point is 01:00:01 who are not generally anti-vax, who are like never my child who has already had to get vaccinated. So I don't know why I'm drawing the line here. But yeah, I don't know. It seems like this is going to be a real shit show. But Raider Jam is predicting that Santa is going to be a big part of the story because that guy, you never know where he's going to fall. There'll be Santas coming out on both sides right wow this guy's a real groundhog coming out with this prediction early in november i mean what's he have a crystal ball this is incredible so santa was the focus of one of the earliest vaccine related controversies last year. But this speaking of that Adam Sandler video that you want to make, Jamie, this was at a time when the right was rapidly pro vaccine, but it was before anybody had invented one.
Starting point is 01:00:57 So like they're there for it. They're for vaccines as long as they're like unsafe and untested. vaccines as long as they're like unsafe and untested but it was it was because the trump administration was pushing to have a vaccine ready before the election science be be damned and his plan involved vaccinating mall santas before everyone else and in turn having them promote the vaccine to kids that sit on their laps so you know via whispering like, yeah, don't tell your mom, kid, but I could I could hook you up with a vax. I got some needles. Zoe Deschanel Elf has, yeah, has a bunch of needles with her. Like, yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:36 Flawed plan. He's pointing out that like Fauci claimed in November that Santa was immune to COVID, but then also claimed that he personally traveled to the North Pole and vaccinated Santa. So I just feel like we need to give Fauci like a year off. Like he feels like someone who's been awake for 48 hours in a row and is just like punchy and is just, you know, throwing stuff out there. That man has been through a lot.
Starting point is 01:02:03 Yeah. I think of him as always shaking a little bit. Right. But yeah, so Santa has been to hospitals to promote the vaccine in Finland, along with Finnish
Starting point is 01:02:17 heavy metal Eurovision champ Lordi, who I was not aware of before this story, but it looks like Home Improvement's Richard Karn is like halfway turning into a zombie and also like mixed with Gene Simmons. But then there's also the issue of whether mall Santa Claus will be vaccinated or not this year,
Starting point is 01:02:38 which the answer seems to be yes, of course, they fucking have to be vaccinated because most children are going to be unvaccinated. But there's already one one Santa who in October was like, they fired me for not being vaccinated. His his excuse, Santa Ron, which is what he told News 4 Jax. News 4 Jax, yes, Jacksonville, Florida, against all odds, that he doesn't want the COVID vaccine because he has had bad reaction to shots in the past. Just shots across the board have caused acute ouchies whenever applied to him. But yeah, I don't know. It feels like this is definitely going to happen. Yeah, I mean, as a lover of Santa media,
Starting point is 01:03:32 I do feel that there is a responsibility of Santa culture to kind of lead the conversation here. Always. It's something I take very seriously, and I have to imagine the whole Santa community does. Unvacked Santas, of course that shouldn't be allowed. And of course it's like going to happen. It kind of reminds me of the mall Santa from Nathan For You,
Starting point is 01:03:54 where he had like, every mall Santa has a dark secret, you know, like sometimes it's going to be that they're unvaccinated. I personally, I don't know, Jack, do you bring your kids
Starting point is 01:04:04 to see Santa at the mall? Or are you going to skip it?'re unvaccinated i personally i don't know jack do you do you bring your kids to to see santa at the mall are you gonna skip every day every day wow that's awesome no i think we'll skip it this year we skipped it last year we managed to skip it last year it was yeah santa santa's at the mall uh really have had a jenking career is probably in except in the red states yeah it does suck for the people who's like that's their entire identity i feel for y'all but like i don't feel for you if you're not willing to get vaccinated in order to keep that identity yeah all right let's talk uh let's have you guys seen eternals no have you no no what's eternals you got some nerd shit yeah it's nerd shit that's coming out came out last weekend i knew it yeah i fucking knew it dog So this is the latest Marvel movie to be groundbreaking in that Ryan Tyree Henry is playing the first openly gay superhero in a Marvel movie. And critics are hailing the inclusive storyline as the bare minimum.
Starting point is 01:05:22 And yeah, I don't know the last time marvel like boasted about lgbtq plus representation uh turned out to be a 10 second scene in endgame in which one of the directors uh who isn't gay in real life mourns his dead partner in a support group because the filmmaker claimed that representation is really important, which became like a PR nightmare. So in addition to like just being a thing that they're trying to get credit for and like without really thinking about it or doing anything about it, early reviews are mentioning a scene in which Fastos, who is the superhero in question, a scene in which Fastos, who is the superhero in question, stands, quote, solemnly in the wreckage of Hiroshima and screams, what have I done? Wow. Pathos. Yeah. Like he's not literally responsible
Starting point is 01:06:17 for the use of a nuclear weapon, but because Fastos is essentially the patron god of technology he like feels responsible for for doing it but i don't know it just feels like this is what happens when you're like trying to like tie in the fucking holocaust or the use of like a nuclear weapon to kill hundreds of thousands of people in a like split second like as a plot point yeah i don't i don't know i mean nothing against whatever i i always get like filet-o-fished in comments when i'm like i just i i have i have no interest in uh marvel trying to comment on the real world. I like to watch people fly around. I like to watch people kiss.
Starting point is 01:07:12 I like when the school bus is pulled off of the edge of the bridge. I'm not looking for commentary. And when I hear that there's commentary in a marvel movie usually i don't go right i mean shout out to chloe xiao though good for her for for directing a huge ass movie that's cool yeah getting a huge payday yeah good for her i saw her at a restaurant recently it was cool what that is cool spending that eternal's money yes Yes. Yeah. Greta said hi to her after on her way out, like in a classy way. But I would have never. She goes, I love you as we were walking by.
Starting point is 01:07:54 I love you. Sign this knife for me. I didn't sign my knife. It was like a classy hello in that she didn't stop it was moving you know when you're moving it's okay because you're not expecting them to spend time with you right yeah yeah that is that is the way to do it yeah i think like it's okay to have like tie-ins to history like in hocus pocus i don't know if you guys are fans of that movie but so it's good that was a good movie because it opens with the salem witch trials in which the
Starting point is 01:08:34 women being murdered are actual witches uh and so like the the puritans were right and every every puritanical thing in american culture is they weren't chill but they were right yes thank you yeah yeah i don't know inserting magic and technology in that scenario wasn't about puritanical values it was like literally because they were eating the children in the town i don't know yeah i mean it's certainly a revisionist look at the salem witch trials and that's why art is so important yeah i don't know like but you know jm also points out like raiders of the lost ark does this in a way that doesn't really fuck me up like i think it's like cool when you're melting Nazis,
Starting point is 01:09:26 like that's, maybe that should be just like the, the rule. If you're, if you're getting to melt Nazis, I'm good. But otherwise historical commentary, I feel like is,
Starting point is 01:09:35 is more fun when it's not like, especially like in this genre in like action and superheroes and shit like that, when it's more cathartic versus punishing and reminding you about a large loss of life right yeah yeah melting the nazis is great because it's just like it's scratching the itch of like wouldn't it be so cool to melt a nazi to melt an evil person versus like so many innocent people died doesn't that make you want to keep watching this movie that i i feel like just looking at the
Starting point is 01:10:06 trailer i'm like this is three hours long i'm not going movies are too long i'm i agree we need we as a society need to come together on that point i can't do that this you know what are we every movie is a fucking irishman now jesus christ i Christ. I can't do that. I barely have enough attention span to read two pages. I'm going to see Titane again. That's how I'm going to see Eternals. Just see Titane a second time.
Starting point is 01:10:38 What is Titane? I don't know if I'm saying it right because it's a French word, but it's the movie where the lady has sex with a car and gets pregnant with a car and gives birth to a car. What? Oh, yeah. I have heard about that.
Starting point is 01:10:52 It is like, I mean, it's, I'm very inclined to like movies like that, but it's incredibly good. It's by this French director. Really? I'm going to watch that. Yeah. Her name is Julia Ducarno. She made a really good movie about
Starting point is 01:11:05 teen girl cannibalism a couple years ago too. She just does the wildest stuff and does it all the way. She has sex with a car. Wow, my dream. I know. I was like, wow, I didn't even realize that that's how you could
Starting point is 01:11:21 have sex with it. I mean, the way she has sex with the car, I wasn't expecting it. I was expecting something very different. I don't even know how to picture it. Huh. I thought you were mispronouncing Titanic. I was like, is that a classy way to pronounce?
Starting point is 01:11:38 Yeah, with your pinky up. No, it's like Tartine except having sex with cars. Except having sex with a car and having a car baby yeah that part seems less fun but i am interested yeah i mean people who like the like so the movie's based on the eternals is based on the classic comic series and all those tweets about Jack Kamal Nanjiani. Oh, that's the one he's in? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:09 Yeah, this is the one. This is clearly a topic for me and Blair. We know so much. I don't know shit about it either. I don't know the comics. I was really excited about the director. And then I saw the trailer and it's all like laser shit and like i just don't i've never been into people who shoot lasers out of their hands that
Starting point is 01:12:32 i find it somewhat boring yeah marvel was like let's get this woman with so much taste and just and then just keep it straight marvel yeah that's yeah that's what drives me like up a wall about it is like it would be really cool to give chloe xiao something like that budget to do whatever she wanted or like the same for like taika waititi of like here's 300 million dollars what or probably more like what will you do instead of like the same superhero movie that you feel like i mean and i haven't seen it so maybe it is like very very different and she has her own fingerprints like all over it but it all kind of feels like this movie could be made by anybody why why are you wasting this talented person's time but they don't want that they don't want something like new they they want to keep marvel happy the way it is yeah she does cast it with
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