The Daily Zeitgeist - Weekly Zeitgeist 21 (Best of 4/23/18-4/27/18)

Episode Date: April 29, 2018

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Starting point is 00:02:25 Yeah. So without further ado, here is the weekly zeitgeist. Waffle House. I shouldn't have said it in such a joyous way. But Waffle House. Why do you really have to just go, Waffle House. Let's bring it down here. No, there was a mass shooting there in Nashville.
Starting point is 00:02:48 Waffle House, the guy who, the perp, has a long history of making threats. He was naked but for a trench coat. Very strange story, but four people were killed, and he was wrestled to the ground by like a real life john mclean action hero yeah like where as it was happening you know they're they're asking him like you know what were you thinking and he just said i'm going to have to try to find some kind of flaw or a point in time where i could make it work for myself and by making work for himself he bum rushed this dude and tackled him to the ground and got the gun away from him and then the dude eventually escaped and as of just recording we found out that he was apprehended
Starting point is 00:03:30 uh so yeah it's interesting to see you know there was a real hero there uh and this guy was also another person who had a very clear record of having problems uh with his mental state and he had his guns taken away but then they were given back to his father, who then just gave them back to him. And when you look at sort of his, like he was a known entity to law enforcement for like saying stuff like Taylor Swift was actually stalking him and shit like that.
Starting point is 00:03:57 Which, I mean, we don't know whether to believe that or not, right? Like, no. If Taylor Swift, I mean, I don't know. We don't know. But do you remember, I think like last year, there was a guy who bum-rushed the White House lawn and tried to get into the White House and was like, I'm a sovereign citizen. That's this guy. Right.
Starting point is 00:04:12 So it's just, again, we need to be doing more about our gun control because clearly this is another person who clearly should not have been anywhere near any kind of weapons. And obviously gun rights people are going to say, well, he broke the law, but our laws need to be more strictly enforced and need to work around the fact that anybody can get a gun at any time, given the current just flood of guns in the United States. So, yeah, we need to work around that because there are a lot of mentally ill people out there and there are a lot of guns out there. And when those two ingredients are put together, we're going to have shit like this until we start getting guns off the street, I think. Yeah. It's just weird how fucking normal this shit is now. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:56 You know what I mean? Like, even when I saw the headline, I really thought, oh, only four people were killed. Right. And that's a fucking terrible place to be in mentally where that's like the calculus in my mind of like, oh, is there like a number that makes it a tragedy in my mind? Or like that's how I've had to compartmentalize. You know what I mean? Yeah. had the insane like non uh instinct for self-preservation but just instinct to you know go do the thing that uh i think 99.9 of the population would not have the guts to do and like tackle and you know he said he was only looking out for himself but i'm sure he saved
Starting point is 00:05:39 a lot of people's lives 100 of republicans that are for guns would never do that stuff right they would never ever ever and. Right. They would never, ever, ever. And I don't even think if they had a gun on them, they would actually shoot another person. They wouldn't. Because this is the other thing, what we were talking about earlier, is like, I don't think, at least the gun owners I know, they don't own guns because they have a fantasy about using them on other people.
Starting point is 00:05:58 Like, gun owners I know are people who, like, target shooting, or just, like, are part of, like, a culture of, like, you know, their parents were veterans and things like target shooting or just like are part of like a culture of like you know their parents were veterans and things like that or in law enforcement so they they just grew up around guns or whatever but they don't this idea of a person who's like always packing a pistol or whatever and is just ready to enforce the law on somebody you know I think you have to really look at our fabric as people like we're not built to be doing shit like that yeah because it's bad
Starting point is 00:06:23 shit crazy I i wish i heard more from sane gun owners like this because the whole conversation is so black and white it's like either guns go away or you have crazy people screaming that or like i would have killed away my guns and i would have killed them and it's just like it'd be great to hear from sane regular people who who like use guns well i think recreationally right and i thought it wouldn't think that there should be a lot of laws yeah you know regulating it but i don't hear from those well we did for a second right after parkland right there are a lot of people who were not a lot but there was this there was like this sort of uh it was like fashionable
Starting point is 00:07:01 for people to be like i was in the military this is my ar i'm breaking it because like fashionable for people to be like, I was in the military. This is my AR. I'm breaking it because like citizens shouldn't have it. And there was that kind of thing. But yeah, I feel like there could be a lot to this debate when you actually have like common sense people or like, or even gun owners who aren't seen as immediately being these sort of like doomsday prepper type people. It's really a shame that the NRA has chosen the direction they've chosen
Starting point is 00:07:22 because the NRA is when you buy a gun, they are, you go to a training course immediately that is sponsored by the NRA. They are pro-responsible gun ownership. It's just that their public persona, their public brand has become this like crazy, like fucking vigilante justice thing. And yeah, I mean, there are two camps.
Starting point is 00:07:45 They're the same gun owners who buy a gun or two and keep it in a safe or take it to target practice. But then there is this gun culture. Like if you look at gun magazines, there are all these stories, there are ads written to be like, protect your family with this automatic or semi-automatic
Starting point is 00:08:07 assault rifle and those are the people that the gun industry is focused on because those are the people who buy 50 fucking guns and are going to be the most energetic when defending the right to own a weapon I guess it really is two camps, it's those people
Starting point is 00:08:24 who are responsible and other people who, yeah, they're responsible and other people who are really operating in this bizarre fantasy world where they have to protect themselves from the evil of the world. I think we need to put pressure. I think it's not even a bizarre world. It's very much a world that's been cultivated
Starting point is 00:08:36 by this xenophobic racist. For sure, yeah, you're right. Like, they're coming to get me. Yeah, these thugs are going to invade your home. They're going to rape the white women. It's just like, just, you know, I would love for us to just talk more openly about, like, just call a thing a thing.
Starting point is 00:08:51 It's just like, you guys have been brainwashed with racist and xenophobic ideas about what's going to get you. Right, by your local news, by fucking everything. You've never been outside of wherever you're from. Right, exactly. You've never met that kind of person. Right, right, exactly.
Starting point is 00:09:04 You're scared of them and want to shoot them so it's anyway i think people let's put pressure on responsible gun owners to kind of have more of a more of a voice like find your own nra right because they have like yeah sane nra snra i want to see i've had people together message me on twitter and instagram talking about their gun like especially around the parkland time and we're talking about it saying like i'm a responsible gun owner. I don't think people need this and that. But I think, yeah, it's important that we can still talk about gun ownership
Starting point is 00:09:32 in a way that is divorced from this idea that it's either taking all your guns or guns for everybody. There is a same middle ground. Yeah, totally. The smartest person I've ever talked to about gun ownership is this guy jason pargin who writes uh at crack as david wong and he's a gun owner but he has this inside look at
Starting point is 00:09:52 the gun industry because like he grew up around gun magazines and so he knows like how crazy that part of it is but you know he's also a responsible gun owner so uh yeah i i think those are the people to sort of help us reel this crazy conversation in a little bit because i think on the right many people view people on the left as every liberal person wants to take away all of your guns and then there are people on the left who think everyone on the right in regards to guns are just crazy gun obsessed people who just want to keep guns everywhere out in the open and i think people need to understand that it's much more nuanced. I feel like, yeah, the discussion is really so black or white.
Starting point is 00:10:30 It's a little bit. And to me, like the saddest part is like whenever I read about it, it looks like it just comes down to sales. It just comes down to like if the conversation isn't black and white, then it hurts our sales. Right. Oh, yeah. It's like if we have any kind of sanity going into this, then, you know hurts our sales. Oh, yeah. It's like, if we have any kind of sanity going into this,
Starting point is 00:10:46 then, you know, our shareholders don't make money. Because it's an industry where not people are, it's not like a refrigerator where every home needs one, but they want you to think that every home is incomplete
Starting point is 00:10:58 without a weapon in it. Like, if that is what needs to get hurt, then that thing needs to get hurt real bad. Like, those sales need to vomit. Well, and that's why you're seeing a lot of manufacturers, like, I feel like it was Remington or Mossberg recently, they had to file for bankruptcy. I think it was Remington.
Starting point is 00:11:10 Yeah. Because yeah, like sales are declining and because I think most people are kind of catching on. Not everyone needs a gun. Right. But sales aren't declining to the point that, I don't know, the industry still did really well during the Obama presidency and I think maybe got a little greedy and maybe overexpanded and that's why Remington fell down. But yeah, David Hogue, the kid from Parkland, has been talking about these financial industries like Vanguard and different big banks have a lot
Starting point is 00:11:36 of their money in the gun industry. And if you have your money with them- Divest. Yeah, divest or let them know you don't want any of your money in the gun industry and, you know, get it away from those funds that are helping to support this shit. And just real quick, we actually have late breaking news because we're doing this a little earlier than normal. We just had a story added to the doc by our writer on the ground in Toronto, Mr. J.M. McNabb. He lives in Toronto, and he was pointing out that even though racists on Twitter were quick
Starting point is 00:12:13 to call the attacker a terrorist or a jihadist and blame the city's Muslim population, people who looked at his Facebook post before they were taken down, found that he had lauded Elliot Rodger, the California shooter from 2014 who raged about a number of women turning down his advances. He also used the word incels, meaning involuntary celibate. He said, quote, the incel rebellion has already begun. We will overthrow all the Chads and Stacys.
Starting point is 00:12:43 Tucker Carlson just had the hardest time understanding how the government of Canada could say there was, quote, no connection to a jihadi group. So this makes a lot more sense because I was thinking, even if there was an absence of motive, even if it was just mental illness, they would still speculate that he was motivated by ISIS or could be they would fill that motive in they did that with the Vegas shooter for instance because we like never figured out what he was on about and
Starting point is 00:13:12 in this case they just like completely disappeared the story and I think it's because his politics were this sort of weird men's rights kind of shit of like blame women for their own shittiness kind of mentality which aligns perfectly with the alt-right.
Starting point is 00:13:28 Which is crazy though too because Chad's are like the... The handsome alt-right. The peak alt-right male you could be. So even the fact that he's like, he is clearly so on the incel side that he can't look at anybody who has some kind of sex life or social life. Yeah, I don't think it's
Starting point is 00:13:44 red and blue. I don't think, I mean, I think they're taking a different red pill, blue pill situation. Right, exactly. That is a fascinating and so sad world with broken, lonely people. There's nothing involuntary about your celibacy. What's involuntary is the self-examination, the tiny changes that you would have to make to progress as a person, to not get fucked, dude, but to connect with other humans
Starting point is 00:14:12 on a physical and emotional level. There you go. You are not doing work. You're just not doing the work. You're not doing the work. You'll get a sandwich made for you if you do the work. People make you sandwiches
Starting point is 00:14:23 because they love you. Sorry, I just. So we also wanted to take a look at Sean Hannity and his real estate empire. Right. So it came out that he basically owns 870 homes in seven states. What? Yeah. Which, you know, he had talked about how Michael Cohen helped him with real estate stuff.
Starting point is 00:14:48 And you assumed it was like, yeah, hey, could you look at this contract with my landlord for me or something like that? Hey, the foundation might have a crack in it. Should I go through with this? So he's bought like entire like condo buildings. Yeah. So the thing is, in The Guardian, there was this report that showed that he basically is in control of these shell companies that have spent at least $90 million on properties that are mostly distressed homes, homes that are about to be foreclosed on, and was just mass purchasing them.
Starting point is 00:15:15 I think he has two condos that actually have agreements with HUD, with the Housing and Urban Development Department, which also makes it weird when you have Ben Carson on your show and you're praising him but not disclosing it. It's like, I also have some buildings that he knows. Is Fox News trying to get in that HGTV business? Yeah, right next. And he's going to be flip or flop? Right. Flip or flog.
Starting point is 00:15:38 So you had Ben Carson on. What did he talk to him about? It was just kind of, oh, how great of a job you're doing. It was just like a softball thing, just making him look really great. Good publicity for the housing and urban development office. Exactly, when Ben Carson is fucking up an insane amount. Right. And then, but also
Starting point is 00:15:54 then we find out that not necessarily that Ben Carson, like, you know, put these new regulations into effect that the same buildings that Hannity owns, like, they're part of a program that in 2019, like, you owns, they're part of a program that in 2019, they will be allowed to turn it from subsidized housing units into condominiums that they can just package and sell on their own. So before it was like, okay, well, look, we'll give you
Starting point is 00:16:16 these loans. We'll subsidize the housing if you're allowing people to stay there because they need cheaper housing. But then they're saying, but look, just wait a couple years, and then you can flip the building, sell for condominiums, and then nobody has to live there, and then they can figure it out on their own. So the we in that instance is HUD. They're like, we will help finance this so that we have cheap housing, and then, yeah. But that's not necessarily the entire game of HUD, but that's a thing to just take. They're supposed to be good. Yeah, they're supposed to be good.
Starting point is 00:16:44 They're trying to. They're supposed to be good they're trying to but on our side that's what that's what kind of makes it more infuriating when Sean Hannity goes up there and is just that disingenuous right and it's talking about how great Ben Carson is at his job when yeah like you said that HUD is supposed to be the good guys who are helping poor people who like need places to live and instead, even this morning, there was a news alert that he was suggesting that they raise the rent in subsidized housing and make people get jobs in order to live in places. So basically his read on the situation is, well, these poor people are just too lazy. Well, yeah. I mean, that's how all conservatives think though. Like everything is
Starting point is 00:17:30 a hand up. Just smoke weed and fuck and make 900 babies. So, I mean, he is part of this huge trend, which all comes from the financial crisis in 08, 07, 08, where lots of people lost their homes, their homes were foreclosed on, and Wall Street just bought up all of these houses and then started renting them out to people for hiked up rents. So a lot of people in Wall Street are making money off of these home foreclosures that they caused in the first place. But they see a financial crisis as an opportunity to make more money off of the people who are in crisis. Everyone has – I don't even know who I'm meaning when I say everyone. But I've heard from multiple people in the real estate world. They're like, another crash is coming.
Starting point is 00:18:22 And I'm like, no, I thought that you had to put down 20%. And they're like, oh, no, no, no, no. Like,
Starting point is 00:18:28 it's coming. Like, if you want to buy a house, wait three years because it's bottoming out again. And it's, I don't know if it's going to be as bad as 07 and 08. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:36 But like a new wave of it, like prices in New York have already started to drop. And that's like a indication of like, oh, fuck, it's going to happen. Yeah. Well, I mean, the thing with these companies, especially you know blackstone is like this huge uh private
Starting point is 00:18:51 equity company that they have they're like one of the biggest offenders like of this sort of trend yeah well it's mean yeah it sounds like a fucking uh as jm mcnabb says a harry potter bad guy yeah right blackstone yeah these companies're just kind of like, hey, look, looking at Wall Street, we have an opportunity to just buy all these houses that are going on the cheap. And in some cases, someone that Hannity was in business with,
Starting point is 00:19:14 he went to jail for artificially tanking prices at these auctions to be able to buy them at lower prices. Once those houses are bought, that's money that probably could have gone to the homeowner probably to pay back their debt.
Starting point is 00:19:25 But anyway, and that guy went to jail, but that's a side of the point. The thing is, the sort of thing that's happening is they're taking these foreclosed on homes and basically buying them up cheap and taking away these assets from the people who were victimized by the financial crisis. So Sean Hannity is like the guy behind the guy behind the guy,
Starting point is 00:19:45 like making shit loads of money off of the people who watch his show and are like, there's a normal everyday American right there. Meanwhile, Hannity, he's making money off of you and putting you out of your fucking home. Or even just saying, Oh,
Starting point is 00:19:59 you know, look at the home ownership is going down. Obama, look at these foreclosure rates. And it's like, my man, you are the destroyer. You are the same person who is taking advantage of this situation.
Starting point is 00:20:08 I feel like there is sort of this dialogue of like homeownership is going down because our generation is like bad. Like we've ruined chain restaurants. It's like, OK, we don't want to do it. It's like, yes, we are afraid to buy homes. That wasn't our fault. We were young kids. We were just like in high school, college, and buying a home became this catastrophic, terrible thing. So, yeah, now we don't want to buy a home.
Starting point is 00:20:33 And there will be people that are forever renters. And guess what? We didn't fucking make that happen. You guys did. And also the fact is that wages don't really match. Younger people aren't making the kind of money you even need to begin thinking about buying a home. Right. Depending on where you live in a huge urban center.
Starting point is 00:20:49 I mean, clearly there are other places where it is more achievable. But like, for example, California, New York. I mean, you can't- DC, Chicago. Owning in the city. Yeah, big cities, it's a huge thing. And, you know, when they look at,
Starting point is 00:21:00 like when a lot of these houses went to auction when they're being foreclosed on, you know, you'd have people who were trying to buy a house, like maybe first-time homeowners, like maybe people of color who traditionally had a really hard time buying a home. You have these Wall Street people come in with cash up front and go, we'll buy this shit for cash right now. And that already puts people who are traditionally trying to buy a home at a tremendous disadvantage. So when they buy up all these houses, they amass this like massive revenue stream of just renters. And then they've also started selling the bonds of taking all the rent that's being paid and selling that off too. Right. And package that into a bond,
Starting point is 00:21:35 which I guess is more sort of predictable than the mortgage that they had before, like all those shitty mortgages they had before. But when you have a home that is essentially owned and tied up in a Wall Street bond, your landlord does not give a fuck about you. They're not in it to help you out. And there are all these horror stories of people who are paying rent for these houses
Starting point is 00:22:04 that are owned by giant private equity firms who there will be a crack in their ceiling and they'll be like, it's getting worse. It's getting worse, guys. Nobody's been by to look at it. And then their fucking ceiling caves in. Right. Or one where there was water squirting
Starting point is 00:22:20 through a light fixture, which seems dangerous. A live wire with water shooting out? Yeah, that sounds fine. And then you try and call your landlord like, sorry, look, we're way too massive to look at the actual renters. And that's a problem too, because if the renters are not satisfied, they will leave. And now that is going to affect the rent that's being paid on those properties. Part of those bonds being healthy too, is that you can keep people actually in those units or in those homes. And if they're not doing that, that's why a lot of critics are saying like, if you can't even keep people happy or safe in their homes,
Starting point is 00:22:51 how do you expect to maintain, not have super high turnover without a real plan to address that? Maybe we all got to stay in like on a Tuesday and rewatch the big short. Right. Because it's like that just came came out. How have we already, I mean, I haven't seen it. I've fallen asleep three different times trying to watch it on a plane.
Starting point is 00:23:09 Really focused. It's a tough plane movie. But it's like, I think it's about this. Yes. I think we need to like, I think we need to regroup because if this happens again,
Starting point is 00:23:18 it's going to be pretty embarrassing. Right. And like, in one of the reports, they say that like, you know, the difference with these sort of other,
Starting point is 00:23:24 these bonds that they're selling now is like, you know, when banks will repossess a mortgaged home as collateral, there's at least the assumption that the homeowner has probably defaulted on the mortgage. And then it makes sense for this person to be, you know, to be ousted or evicted from their home. from their home. Whereas like in these bonds, like if a bond blows up, so many families are tied up in them. Like one bond melting down could lead to a ton of evictions, just even if you never were late on your payments. So it's just a very weird situation. I think what, you know, obviously it's not that Sean Hannity is exactly this company, but he's employing the sort of same sort of tactics and he saw the same lucrative opportunity to do this. And people need to be aware that this company, Blackstone, I think they own up to like 80,000 single family homes. That's a fucking racket. You know what I mean? And people don't realize that, wow, like even the housing market created a new corporate overlord for your rent. It's like they
Starting point is 00:24:18 had their eyes on this shit from the start. They're like, hey, well, look, the market will bottom out and we can just jump in with cash and buy massive amounts of properties at once. President Trump has even said before he was president, he said he sort of hoped for a housing market crash. So, quote, people like me will go in and buy like crazy. So, I mean, that's right. Yeah, that's kind of scary. All right. We're going to take a quick break. We'll be right back. of scary. All right, we're going to take a quick break. We'll be right back. This summer, the nation watched as the Republican nominee for president was the target of two assassination attempts separated by two months. These events were mirrored nearly 50 years ago when President Gerald Ford faced two attempts on his life in less than three weeks.
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Starting point is 00:28:21 And we're back. All right, let's talk about the upcoming midterms, Miles. Yeah. Let's talk about that. You said your headline in our doc is, Fuck Mueller, Focus on the Fucking Midterms. That's right. Because, again, everybody, all the liberals were dancing in the streets, being like, oh, man, Cohen's going to flip.
Starting point is 00:28:42 Mueller's going to, ah. You know, I get it get it look this fucking presidency is a nightmare and we were trying to look at any way to get out of it to end this thing but I think people need to be really realistic right I think the most important thing is that we have an effective check on the executive branch because right now with the Republicans controlling all the house all the chambers that that that means people can, like in the House and in the Senate, can use their power to just simply obstruct or keep the Democrats from properly investigating or getting answers to things or just generally holding the president or
Starting point is 00:29:15 his cabinet members accountable. So let's paint a picture that is an actual nightmare for Trump. It's 2019, okay, and they are swearing in the whole new batch of Democrats that have basically given the Democrats control of the house. Nancy Pelosi maybe gets her gavel back if it, if Nancy Pelosi does in fact become the speaker again. And now we have 21 subpoena wielding house committee chairman waiting to just this full on investigation season. So, okay. So there are 21 committees in the house where their chairmen's actually have subpoena power. So they can, you know, some of them, there's a committee vote or a consultation with a ranking minority member, but none of them
Starting point is 00:29:56 actually give the minority like any veto power. As we saw in the house's investigation, quote, unquote, into Russia, where Adam Schiff was powerless as the ranking minority member. All he could do is be like, oh, Devin Nunes is fucking around. And he had no nothing. He could do nothing except to just be like, they're fucking around. So these 21 different committees are always led by whoever has the most. Whoever's the majority party.
Starting point is 00:30:25 Okay. That means whatever the ranking member is, you've suddenly become the chairperson or you become the ranking minority member. So based on the power, how it's distributed. Now, the crazy thing is when you're checking the executive branch, it can be one chamber. The Senate can do that on their own. The House can do that on their own. It's not like legislation where both houses have to agree on the legislation and then has that its own process. When it comes to accountability and things like that, any one chamber can do that on their own. They don't need the other chamber to do that. So that's very interesting because right now, as we've seen, is that basically the GOP has used their power to just gum up any investigations or they use their subpoena power to get fucking,
Starting point is 00:31:03 just to obstruct Mueller's investigation or just protect the president. But we're starting to see that using the you know, using their majority as like a human shield is not really the best practice because there are many people who are getting off the fucking ship very quickly. As you can see with the number of retirements, they don't like what's written in the sand. what's written in the sand. So on the retirements, a question I've had is, is this just an unprecedented number of retirements or are all of these people coming to a point in their career when, you know, they might normally retire and it's like an either or thing or like, I mean, I think like a very diplomatic reading of it would be, there'll always be people retiring. There'll always be people switching offices or looking to get other positions. So that always happens.
Starting point is 00:31:46 There's always a set number. I think we're above 44 now, which is actually not normal. Like it's the number of it which kind of transcends the sort of normal turnover when it comes to the Congress. And now we're seeing a lot of people just being like giving weird examples. Like other people would be like, I'm actually going to go into the private sector to do this or whatever. To make money and exploit. Exploit my, like John Boehner did.
Starting point is 00:32:09 It's like, look, let me get out a little bit and then I'm going to get all the GOP to come around on medical marijuana or whatever. Anyway. So you look at like Jason Chaffetz. He was like, I want to be with my family.
Starting point is 00:32:18 Or like Paul Ryan was like, I want to be with my family, which I get. I get that. We all want to be with our family. Everyone wants to be with their family, but you know, it didn't prior to Trump, you seem to have no problem like being like you were getting my family the fuck away from yeah you're like dude i'm chilling in my condo in dc man you know like whatever so we're seeing people kind of looking at it of being kind of in the gop in this
Starting point is 00:32:40 administration is sort of an untenable situation for some people now that people will spin their reasons for doing it but it's clear to see that some people would rather just retire than even try and put up a fight for their seat i'm not letting any of these things that i'm seeing give me any kind of hope in the democratic party i'm still very much waiting to see what they do even if they do get control of the house let's see how they use it because i just don't right so here's the belief no yeah totally because I think already the Democrats as a party, the platform is fucking whack. It's fucking whack. It's not resonating with anybody except for the old people over in D.C. who think it's effective.
Starting point is 00:33:15 There was a front page article in the New York Times yesterday about how the Democratic Party is actually trying to get people to drop out of the races so they don't split the Democratic vote, essentially. And they're always, always choosing the centrist. The establishment person. The person who used to be a Republican and now is a Democrat because that gets them physically aroused. The idea of somebody who can appeal to both sides. Or a veteran.
Starting point is 00:33:44 Right. aroused like the idea of like somebody who can appeal to both sides or a veteran right and so they're like get the people who they're encouraging to drop out are like you know outsiders who are like i was a social worker right or women who like didn't don't aren't like establishment people and that's bullshit because as we saw in 2016 like we want outsiders. That's what people want right now. But this is exactly why. Right. We can trust them. Right.
Starting point is 00:34:08 I totally agree. Day by day, don't show that they've learned from 2016 at all. Most people in the base want to go way the fuck left. We want to go way. You know who surprised the shit out of me? Cynthia Nixon. She did this video about legalizing marijuana and called out how racist marijuana has been in the past or whatever, arresting black people for it while it's been legal for white people for a long time. And she literally said that.
Starting point is 00:34:34 And I was just like, you might make me want to vote for a celebrity. I never wanted to vote for a celebrity. I got nervous for a second. I was like, wait. Am I being ghastly? You literally said it's disproportionately affecting people of color. Exactly. I was just like, whoa, she's really coming out swinging.
Starting point is 00:34:48 And I was just like, that's what you have to do to grab our attention. Especially people of color because with white candidates, they like to dance around shit like that. They'll never full throw to be like, hey, man, the criminal justice system is completely fucking up an entire section of our population. completely fucking up an entire section of our population. If we learn anything from the Trump presidency, it's that the majority of the country is not okay with honesty. Like we are not okay as a country saying that the president is racist, saying that the GOP is racist, or just talking about things as they actually are.
Starting point is 00:35:21 Like we're not okay with reality. And the way that the Democratic Party, seeing clearly that there is this crop of black women, I'm a black woman, so obviously I'm going to talk about stuff because this is what I feel like is, just looking at how the Democratic Party doesn't support and uplift black female candidates, even though these people have been on the ground. And delivering election after election. Delivering election after election for you, building your campaigns, volunteering for you, doing all of the grunt work, and yet we're never elevated, even though I think that black women could possibly save the party. When you have someone like Michelle Obama in the wings, who literally helped Barack Obama become president, and you're not using this insane resource that you have.
Starting point is 00:36:04 Well, there's a record amount of women and women of color running for office this cycle. It gives me chills. Yeah, it's crazy because now I think people are actually, what's great is to see people be empowered and go, you know what? Fuck this. I can actually do something. I don't give a fuck about what the traditional knowledge was around this. I know what I'm capable.
Starting point is 00:36:19 I see the energy and I will now apply that to running a campaign. Meanwhile, the DNCC's test for whether you are a viable candidate. They take your phone, they go through the list and they're like, okay, how much could you get this person to donate? How much could you get that person to donate? Are they like a fundraiser? Are they like basically how well connected
Starting point is 00:36:36 are you to rich people? Right. Essentially. Yeah, because they're like, look, we can't have any broke people. Right. You can be woke, but don't be broke. But isn't that their job?
Starting point is 00:36:45 Yeah, exactly. Aren't they the ones that are supposed to be connecting them and helping them fundraise? Do you want to do your job? You know, there are plenty of candidates who are raising with small donations or away from using super PACs. I mean, Kamala Harris just, I think, over the weekend was like, I'm not taking PAC money anymore. Someone's running in 2020. But yeah, there are plenty of people. I know Elizabeth Warren raised a huge ton of money
Starting point is 00:37:06 off small donations. There are a lot of people who are able to raise off small donor money because yes, the reality is in politics, people, when they look at a candidate, they're like, well, is this guy funded? Because if they're not, then the DNC has to go, well, great, now we're gonna have to fucking pitch in
Starting point is 00:37:19 or whatever because they don't have their own hookups. But if we can get a lot of these candidates to not rely on the traditional forms of fundraising or their traditional donors or benefactors, then we can start to empower actual candidates that are more, you know, that they reflect the values that I think people want to see. And so I would tell you, if you see a potential candidate that embody the values that resonate with you as a voter, I would recommend giving them money because the money does add up and you can get them off of this idea of having to be beholden
Starting point is 00:37:48 to a lot of these huge donors and then protect their interests once they get into office because let's be real, that's sort of the game. Right. At the same time, if somebody who's not establishment
Starting point is 00:37:57 gets the ability to like raise money from a super PAC or something and they're having to compete with like the Koch brothers, take that shit. Sure, sure. But again, all that money comes with strings attached. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:38:08 There are expectations on once you kiss the ring. George Soros. Oh, fuck. We know what's going on. I think what they're doing is, so they see they have this blue wave, as people are describing it, or a blue tsunami,
Starting point is 00:38:22 depending on how excited voters get. I'm Japanese. OK, how excited and motivated voters are totally determines how, you know, how many seats the Democrats take. And they're just taking it for granted that their base is going to come out in record number because they're mad at Trump. But they should not be taking it for granted because if you have some candidate who is just another inauthentic person who is just playing politics that's not going to do it that's not going to get people out and the Republicans are going to the base they are and again the Hillary campaign took us for granted yes she assumed that we would vote for her despite all
Starting point is 00:39:02 the shit show that was going on in the DNC and those emails about, you know, trying to undermine Bernie's campaign. And it was just like, we don't like that shit either. So it's just like you guys continuing to take things for granted, our vote, our voice or whatever it is. And I'm just like, there's clearly no learning. There's been no learning. Right. Which is the problem with the Democratic Party to me in general is that they don't learn
Starting point is 00:39:27 from mistakes. Yeah. Well, the left in general is like a Thanksgiving dinner where everybody wants to say the polite thing about something and nobody's drunk enough to just start truth speaking
Starting point is 00:39:35 at the table. Yeah, right. And right now, once we saw a little bit of truth speaking work, people were like, oh, shit. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:40 What they have to realize now is that is actually a very sexy, there's a lot of appeal to say, yo, the country is fucked up. It's fucked up. We have real fucking solutions. We're not just going to say, hey, man, we're going to get you back to work. No. Talk about income inequality. Talk about like how hard it is to own a home as a person of color. Talk about how hard it is to go to college in this country.
Starting point is 00:40:02 Talk about how how like unequal education is in this country. Even if you do go to a public school, are you going to go to a good one or are you going to go to college in this country talk about how how like unequal education is in this country even if you do go to a public school are you going to go to a good one are you going to go to a shitty one talk about the fact that there's no water in an american city there's no clean water or no power in the commonwealth in puerto rico yeah right like talk about how there's people coming up into waffle houses and little like schools and little kids and shooting it up in movie theaters and like this is like, this is batshit crazy. Don't paper over the cracks and be like, no. Don't paper over it.
Starting point is 00:40:30 Let me talk about, let's hold Wall Street accountable. Like, no, we're past that. And plus, you guys didn't hold Wall Street accountable anyway. Yeah, I'm sure Hillary mentioned all those talking points. But then she also met with all these Wall Street people and was taking money from them. And you knew she wasn't gonna do shit about it yeah well i mean she never said anything that resonated with people of color like once on that campaign trail like not that that campaign was what reminded me that hillary was white i was just like oh yeah yeah like aside from a couple like
Starting point is 00:40:58 boilerplate sort of like talking points i was never like whoa she's she's really talking that shit yeah right and i and again that's because i, she's really talking that shit. And again, that's because I think she took for granted that, in general, it just seemed like an easy choice. Like, look, you can vote for me, or you can vote for this fucking shitbag over here. She took for granted that Bill was the black people's president ever since he played sax on
Starting point is 00:41:18 Arsenio Hall, and he ain't anymore. And you're not the black people's president. And I think their cat had a video game on Genesis. Socks the cat. Or at least he had a comic book. So, I mean, that was cool. What a time.
Starting point is 00:41:31 How did she lose you after that? I don't know. I mean, back to what I was saying, though, about the midterm. So, right. So, if the Democrats do take control, right, think about all these committees that have the subpoena power and how they can deliver all these congressional colonoscopies to the administration. For example, the Ways and Means Committee. And this is from an article on Slate. They're talking about all the possible investigations that could happen with Democrats in power.
Starting point is 00:41:54 The Ways and Means Committee, they can sharpen the national discussion around tax fairness and subpoenaing the president's tax returns. OK, what about the Financial Services Committee? That would be chaired by Maxine Waters. I have a feeling if she was the fucking chairwoman, she would subpoena the shit out of. So for what's in their purview and the financial services, they have the authority to look at like sort of the phenomenon of, you know, foreign oligarchs laundering their ill-gotten gains through purchases of luxury condominiums, like the ones that are in Trump-owned buildings in New York or that weird building in Miami that he sold for like a 300% profit inexplicably. And you look at even just sort of like the Armed Services Committee, they can convene
Starting point is 00:42:35 like proceedings to fucking talk about why it's bad to share state secrets with people who don't have security clearances, like basic things that Republicans want to act like, oh, it's not an issue, it's not an issue. You know, there is the ability to actually be like, hold on, you need to come in here and explain what the fuck is going on. Expose the wildly corrupt shit that is happening. Yeah, the swamp. Nobody likes corruption.
Starting point is 00:42:57 It's going to be hard to argue with, although Trump supporters, I'm sure, will find a way. But yeah, if Democrats are a sober Thanksgiving, Republicans have become like Irish St. Paddy's Day. Like everybody's just fucking wasted and saying the first thing that comes to mind because they are just going to the base hard. All of these house elections,
Starting point is 00:43:21 they're wearing MAGA hats. They're basically talking about how like Trump is their savior of America you mean like this new crop of candidates for the midterms yeah exactly they're like lock her up uh in their campaign ads yo she's saying you're not running against Hillary Clinton and you're saying lock her up still uh what the guy who said that has actually been to jail for uh killing 29 people by uh violating safety standards in the mine that he owns. Oh, yeah. And his talking point is we don't need to investigate our president.
Starting point is 00:43:53 We need to arrest Hillary. So, yeah, they're just going back to the 2016 election. And basically the thing that they have going for them is, you know, the Democratic Party kind of went away from their authentic groundswell of support and the Republicans went with it. And they're realizing, OK, go to this horrible, toxic wave of, you know, aggression that has been bubbling up. What a weird. I mean, I guess we'll see two-year-old campaigning style will still hold up i mean it clearly didn't work for the countless republicans that try to brand themselves as like trump clones uh in the special elections in the last eight months so that's one thing to somewhat rest easy about but yeah it it feels like they're like well fuck it man just play the greatest hits
Starting point is 00:44:41 right you know maybe look maybe they'll keep dancing. Yeah. So, yeah, I'm not going to play these ads for you, but there's just crazy shit where, like, the guy spouting off about, like, a guy running for the Senate in Missouri is talking about, like, how Trump is the savior of our country. He has also said that feminists have snake-filled heads and he hopes his daughters don't become she-devils.
Starting point is 00:45:05 So this is where we're at. Anna Hosni, you have a shirt that says feminist on. Yeah, Super Producer Anna Hosni. How many snakes you got in your head? Uh-oh. Your seven tongues said it all. What the fuck kind of thing is that? Snake head?
Starting point is 00:45:20 Snakes in their head. These guys don't get laid. I don't know what it is about Republicans and their fear of women and pussy. head snakes in their head these guys don't get laid i don't know what it is about republicans and their fear of women and like right like they just it's like a force field they don't understand or something like just the way they talk about women is bananas clearly that's to be like evoke you know the fucking garden and that's the yeah exactly the beast or whatever it's very evocative like let's play out in their mind if feminists
Starting point is 00:45:46 took control of the country. What does that mean? Everyone's penis will have to be turned into a vagina and then men are thrown off the... You know what I mean? Because it was easy with gay marriage. They just say shit like, what's next? A man's gonna marry a horse and a blah blah blah.
Starting point is 00:46:02 It's hard to... There is no argument, right? Because this What is that? It's hard to like, because it's like there is no argument, right? Because this is just a person that's dumb or like, I don't even want to call them dumb, but someone who doesn't have like a real actual point of view. Sound opinions. Right.
Starting point is 00:46:14 And then now I'm supposed to argue about the legitimacy of women? Right, right. What am I arguing? If I'm that candidate, I'm debating you. I'm like, oh, well, people of Missouri, it's clear to see. My opponent, I mean,
Starting point is 00:46:24 look at all the fucking snakes in her head. And I literally have like two seeds in my hair right now. You're like, that's my hairstyle? Yeah. Thank you. Well, you get where I'm coming from, don't you? I'm really curious what the fear is. I guess it's just that men are no longer the dominant force in society.
Starting point is 00:46:43 But they are. No, right. Exactly. But isn't that, is that like the expiration date that they see coming? It is the fear. It's the fear of,
Starting point is 00:46:51 I don't know if it's their own sexual insecurity or the fear that a woman will, because I don't think any man has a real fear that a woman will seduce him unless he is a basketball player or like, you know, someone who has actual money that people are coming for. And can you use
Starting point is 00:47:06 that excuse where you're like, hey, I was seduced. Exactly. And you literally were. But the average man, I don't think, has to worry about being seduced. No, men fantasize about being seduced. They might have relationships with women who are less assertive and they might just think, well, I could never
Starting point is 00:47:22 deal with a woman who speaks her mind because that's too intimidating. And so I don't know, guys, give it a try. It's actually very rewarding to hang out with women. Try thinking of a woman as a person. Yeah. Number one, think imagine you were talking to another human being and start there. My brain just exploded.
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Starting point is 00:51:11 listen to rebel spirit on the iheart radio app apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts And we're back. I never left. list back in the early 80s who first put Trump on the list of the 400 richest people in America. And the first time that he put Trump on the list was because he got a call from a Trump employee named John Barron. We're going to listen to audio from that call. Oh, OK. So, yeah, I mean, listen to our mentally ill president pretend to be somebody else.
Starting point is 00:52:09 Whenever you hear there's a call from anyone named John, it's always Trump. I love it. John Barron because John Rich Guy would have been too transparent. What was the other one he said
Starting point is 00:52:19 when he talked about Marla Maples? What was it when he's talking to a tabloid? He used the name John something too. He pretended to be Marla Maples. He was like when he's talking to a tablet? He is a name John something too. He pretended to be Marla Maples. He was like, hey, Marla, aren't I good at sex? And then he was like, yes, you're the best I've ever had. Yeah, did you hear that? See?
Starting point is 00:52:34 Proof. I'm not impotent. The New York Post knew that that would sell the shit out of a newspaper and printed it. But anyways, so here is audio of the call that got Donald Trump to be known as a rich person. This is 1982. This is when people started to think that he was rich. Well, let me tell you what the deal is, just so you understand. Mr. Trump. First of all, most of the assets have been consolidated to Mr. Trump, you know,
Starting point is 00:53:02 because you have Dan Fred Trump. And I'd like to talk to you off the record, if I can, just to make your thing easier. Okay, sure. Is that all right? Yeah, that's fine. All right. But I think you can really use Donald Trump now, and you can just consolidate. I think last year somebody showed me the article, and I think you had 200 and 200. And really, it's been pretty well consolidated now for the most part, as I also think somebody
Starting point is 00:53:21 had mentioned that you had asked about that or somebody had. And it's been pretty well consolidated, okay? Uh-huh. So that's one point that you can... Does President make money management decisions? Oh, yeah, sure. He's the Chairman Donald's, the President, and Fred Trump is active. He's an excellent guy, and you know how they're very close, the relationship of the two is,
Starting point is 00:53:32 as you know, very close, as you've heard or know or perhaps you don't know. But they're very close. And I think that's the thing that's been really interesting, is that they're very close. I think that's the thing that's been really interesting, is that they're very close. And I think that's the thing that's been really interesting, is that they're very close. And I think that's the thing that's been really interesting, is that they're very close. And I think that's the thing that's been really interesting, is that they're very close. And I think that's the thing that's been really interesting, is that they're very close.
Starting point is 00:53:40 And I think that's the thing that's been really interesting, is that they're very close. And I think that's the thing that's been really interesting, is that they're very close. And I think that's the thing that's been really interesting, is that they're very close. And I think that's the thing that's been really interesting, is that they're very close. And I think that's the thing that's been really interesting, is that they're very close. And I think that's the thing that's been really interesting, is that they're very close. And I think that's the thing that's been really interesting, is that they're very close. And I think that's the thing that's been really interesting you know how they're very close, the relationship of the two is, as you know, very close, as you've heard or know or perhaps you don't know. But Trump is active in the business, too. So he's basically saying they've consolidated all the power under Donald and that he basically owns the company at this point, which was not true. He basically owns the company at this point, which was not true.
Starting point is 00:54:12 He actually at that time was worth roughly $5 million, but they included him on the list at $100 million. Because it's consolidated. Right, because it's all consolidated. And apparently the rule for convincing a Forbes reporter of something is just to say it's been consolidated like five times. Also, that dude fucked up by putting him on the list. If he was like, well, I got this call. I mean, I guess I'm going to have to put him on here. So it's also like we were talking about how sad Trump is when you really look at him from just like a psychological perspective.
Starting point is 00:54:38 Right. This is a guy who's on the phone with someone pretending to be someone else talking about how close his dad is to him and how much his dad likes him weren't they not close uh i think he they were okay but it's just a weird i think his dad was a real hard ass yeah just to underline that he's like i mean they're so close i mean you'd think it was like a like a 50s comedy they go on vacation together uh yeah it's like leave it to beaver can you imagine like you'd have to be an empty shell to be able to pick up that phone. Pretend, right, right. Miles calling you.
Starting point is 00:55:09 So I got a, listen, hot guest for your pod. Look, real into what you guys are doing, Jay. I really like the moves you're making. I want to recommend, this is not me. This is definitely my client, Caitlin Gill. I'm sorry, who am I speaking with? You are not talking to Caitlin Gill. That is my client.
Starting point is 00:55:23 I am a representative. My name is Carrie Bradshaw. My name is Cal Nithna. Thank you for taking my... Listen, I am a fabulous client. Love that name. She's just tremendous. She's huge.
Starting point is 00:55:35 And I mean, literally, she is 6'1", 220. She's bringing it down. Don't worry about the numbers. But those are consolidated numbers. Now, listen, what I need you to know is that caitlin is literally the funniest person alive you name a comedian okay they're probably better and more famous but look look look what you don't know yet is you don't have caitlin on the list you don't have her on i am definitely not caitlin i am the funniest person in the world it's just that's when
Starting point is 00:56:00 i go yo jack caitlin just called and no, no. You hear that like from a dead phone. No, it's not Caitlin. I'm not. Put me on your podcast, please. Your listeners are so engaged. Come on. Shout out to the Zeit gang. It's just the saddest.
Starting point is 00:56:21 No, right. Yeah, to take yourself there. Because it does remind me of like, we all grew up with kids in school who would just lie so aggressively. My dad is a cop. I did that. Oh did you? Oh a hundred percent. About the weirdest shit. Places I'd been. Stuff my
Starting point is 00:56:36 family had. Sex things I had definitely not even heard of before I made them up. Like I absolutely lied to make a world more interesting than my own and then I realized that I make my world interesting. And then you grow, but then you start seeing some of those kids don't get past that. And then they still do. And you're like, oh, shit.
Starting point is 00:56:53 You're really telling people you're a fashion designer. I have friends who are still on that. I'm like, bro, you're wearing a woman's jacket. And you'll be like, no, this is the new style. Fashion designer equals shops well at the Goodwill. Yeah, okay, this is like the new style. I'm like, all right, fam. Fashion designer equals shops well at the Goodwill. Yeah. Okay, sure. And then I was just like, but then you start realizing, you're like, man, like, I guess
Starting point is 00:57:09 it was different. Like, you know, as a kid, you say shit, like you say, to make your own life interesting to yourself or for your perception of you to other people. But then after a while, you realize, oh, I have more control over this. I can take agency of my life or whatever. And then you see the other people who have just relied on that for so long that they really have just completely, you know, deluded themselves into being in a place like that. But you just have to have such an empty, sucking wound where a soul would be to just be that desperate to put something in there. The Forbes 400 list, like that's, he needed it.
Starting point is 00:57:42 Like it was like he was holding his breath. And until he got on the forbes 400 list he couldn't take another breath like it was just desperation five million dollars like at the time he's just sad he doesn't have a hundred million dollars right but i can't imagine that getting a hundred million dollars is going to satisfy that person right it just is it's sad i'm trying to find some kind of compassion. Right. Because this is obviously a sad person. Right. He's still responsible for his actions.
Starting point is 00:58:11 Right. And what he does about that sad person. He used that $100 million estimation of his wealth, which was a lie, to then start securing loans from other people. Because he was like, look at it. Look, Forbes, they got me at $100 million, so give me $20. Dude, that shit. Can you walk into a bank and just slap a Forbes on a desk and be like, this is better than any formal record?
Starting point is 00:58:35 When he was trying to get one of his casinos, Nick Stump, super producer, reminding us that, yes, there is a scene where they're talking about how they're worried about how he's going to secure approval from the gambling Commission for one of his casinos. They're like, well, how are you going to get funding? He was just like, I'm on the Forbes list. Right. Don't worry about it.
Starting point is 00:58:50 I'm on the – I can get that. And that perception was enough to just be like, oh, okay. Right. And then he managed to bankrupt a bunch of casinos, which is so hard. That is very difficult. That is a business where people walk in and give you their money and walk out. That is a business where people walk in and give you their money and walk out. Let's move on to more messiness involving the Trump administration because his pick to lead the VA, a man with very little managerial experience, Dr. Ronnie Jackson, a.k.a. Rom-Rom Jaxxie Babies, a.k.a. the funk doctor Mr. Punk Rocker, got the drug stock up in the lunchbox wow we got ari melber over here yeah so complaints started out with uh you know he handed out a
Starting point is 00:59:31 couple ambient on overseas flights to you know the president's staff obama and bush's staff and maybe a couple provigil to help pet people up a little bit once they landed somewhere and you know maybe he got a little too drunk on a couple of those trips and couldn't be resuscitated when he was needed to like do his job. And so they had to take his credentials to another backup doctor. And, you know, what do you mean?
Starting point is 00:59:56 Couldn't be resuscitated or he couldn't be woken up. Like he was so, he was so drunk. They couldn't wake him up. That's dope. That's so cool. And then there's also the story where he almost woke President Obama up because he was drunkenly pounding on a female subordinate's door
Starting point is 01:00:11 trying to get her to let him in so he could presumably sexually harass her before passing out on her floor. You know, that's not so bad. Happens to the best of us. And the press tried to get like backup on a couple of those things and they were like we're not getting anything from the you know obama administration officials they're all saying he's like the best guy uh but it turns out like stuff kept coming out it turns out he not only got drunk on the road he got so drunk at a secret service retirement party that he crashed a
Starting point is 01:00:45 government car uh he was frequently known to like give and take prescription drugs uh like around just the office uh including controlled substances like percocet uh yeah ronnie percocet uh a future hendrix as they called him but yeah he was just like an all-around fuck-up, which makes me wonder. I think those Obama administration officials that they were trying to get backup from were like, nah, man, he hooked it up. Well, exactly.
Starting point is 01:01:16 And the other thing, too, is most people- You never ran on your drug dealer. Most people were like, everyone was like, yo, it's very normal for them to hand you sleep aids and provigil on these trips because when you're doing diplomatic missions and shit, you're on a plane, you're in a completely different time zone, and then you've got to be ready, active to do the thing. So most people were kind of like, yes, that's actually pretty normal.
Starting point is 01:01:36 Yeah, that's fine. It's a role that's needed in the government. Yeah, he's writing kind of on-the-fly prescriptions for people the same way. Provigil was invented to help fighter pilots. Yeah, a lot of fighter pilots. Yeah, stay awake while they're like fucking flying around the world to go do missions. So it's not that big a deal if he's giving it to other people. But if he's prescribing himself Percocet.
Starting point is 01:01:57 Yeah, and then like popping pills in the office. And like also just the reports of like what it was like to work for him. Like people use words like toxic, abusive, volatile, vindictive. Yeah, toxic masculinity. He kissed up and kicked down, they said. He was just a fucking awful, the shittiest guy you work with. That's why this shit isn't as crazy as the fact that the White house can't pick people that are appropriate for these jobs right you could almost argue okay you almost need someone that's basically this guy
Starting point is 01:02:32 to be like the dark part of keeping the government running right like you have to give people speed evidently to run the government so for sure if that's a given then that doctor is gonna end up being like this you just don't promote him right you just don't make him the head of the second largest like how many people i think it's 300 000 employees and it's not just about medical killer either it's like a financial body too like of giving assistance to veterans so he's just wholly unprepared and unqualified for this thing and it's just again this method of of hiring at the white house is like yo that dude's chill right which cabinet should he run like which department should he we can control this guy because we've seen him do as much yeah
Starting point is 01:03:16 like we were saying other administrations would have vetted him sniffed all this shit out like months in advance or weeks in advance uh but instead of doing that trump's method was to just be like yeah he seems like a good guy let's use him and then when the media revealed all this shit he was like you know if i were you i'd drop out that was an actual headline it's like bro you trump you gassed me up to get out there what the fuck yeah but now man i'm like yeah i wouldn't now it looks like a mistake. Right. It's a no for me. Trump is that asshole cousin who like runs up to the edge of the pool and then stops and then you jump in. Doesn't it feel, though, that like I genuinely think there's not that much artifice with these people.
Starting point is 01:03:57 They're like they believe it. They're like, yeah, he's a boy. Yeah, he's a boy. We get to do what we want. And then they're like, oh, he's not our boy, I guess. Right. Hey, you should really drop out, my man. Right, right.
Starting point is 01:04:06 Yeah. No, yeah, yeah, yeah. They just don't know that there's any such thing as a more functional administration. They just think that everybody is as big a fuck up as them. Right, and they also don't know any better doctors, to be fair. Right. He's the best.
Starting point is 01:04:21 I mean, Dr. Oz will probably be next. I mean, come on will probably be next Anybody named Ronnie Alright That's gonna do it for this week's Weekly Zeitgeist Please like and review the show If you like the show It means the world to Miles
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