The Daily Zeitgeist - Weekly Zeitgeist 234 (Best of 7/11/22-7/15/22)

Episode Date: July 17, 2022

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me for I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and Shekinah Church. Listen to Forgive Me for I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradenti. And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. There's a lot to figure out when you're just
Starting point is 00:00:39 starting your career. That's where we come in. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in people who do, like negotiation expert Maury Tahiripour. If you start thinking about negotiations as just a conversation, then I think it sort of eases us a little bit. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports.
Starting point is 00:01:04 Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. Every great player needs a foil. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Listen to the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:01:26 Presented by Elf Beauty, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. I'm Keri Champion, and this is Season 4 of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Caitlin Clark versus Angel Reese. People are talking about women's basketball just because
Starting point is 00:01:42 of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's basketball. And on this new season, we'll cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio apps, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. Hello, the Internet, and welcome to this episode of the Weekly Zeitgeist. These are some of our favorite segments from this week, all edited together into one nonstop infotainment laughstravaganza.
Starting point is 00:02:19 Yeah. So without further ado, here is the weekly zeitgeist. We're thrilled to be joined in our third seat by a hilarious writer, comedian, podcast host, one of the best followers on Twitter, the founder of a creative studio follow-through. It's the brilliant and talented CJ Toledano! CJ! What is up, guys? It was so hard to not interject and just compliment all that music it was very musical
Starting point is 00:02:47 intro uh from both you guys very very impressed you know we do what we can we do what we can on this here show what are you doing man how how is uh fatherhood fatherhood is is good i i feel like in what we're in i'm in week 10 or 11 of fatherhood and i'm like settled enjoying it just i know what tired feels like i can handle it yeah it's um yeah it's great a lot of pictures a lot of videos cute kid i remember right before the birth you tweeted something to the effect of like yo i can't wait to be so tired like i can't wait to pick up i was just like making it yeah like megan carrying the child tag me in coach i'm gonna go i'm gonna be redlining out there till my till i have no gas in me and now you're saying you got there you found you found the spot and you're surviving well i
Starting point is 00:03:36 definitely yeah i think i told you guys i was like i'm ready to contribute and like it was iffy there if that was like when i was actually contributing, man, that is tough. It was, I had to walk the walk and there was times where I was like, should I just walk out the door? Like here, you know, I, uh, but I, I got the handle on it. No poop is too gross. You know, there's, there's Google. I think Jack, you told me you're just like Googling everything.
Starting point is 00:04:03 I mean, I'm like a master of looking things up. Yeah, constantly. You know, I've learned a lot. And it's all very useful information. So as opposed to me just like looking up 90s NBA stats. So it feels good to contribute and to bring a life into this world. I mean, I didn't physically. I mean, I did at one part.
Starting point is 00:04:22 Yeah, yeah. Very brief. Yeah. I don't know. I don't want to say so brief, but yeah. Like compared to the nine months. The enjoyable part. The enjoyable part. Right, right. I don't think I've ever heard somebody be like, cute kid about their own kid.
Starting point is 00:04:36 That's so funny, man. You know, because I'm just like, this kid could have looked like anything. I don't know if I... See, that contributes to me wanting to raise him. Yeah, yeah. That is huge. When you're like, oh, you don't have a hot take about your kid.
Starting point is 00:04:50 Yeah, I'm a vain person. Looked like Megan's brother. Like, wait, what? Why are you taking shots at the family now? Not the good one either. You know what I'm saying? Does Megan have brothers? Yeah, yeah. She's got two really, really good brothers. Just spent a whole week with them july 4th we had family coming in i mean that's
Starting point is 00:05:09 the other aspect of it all is like you just got to get through family coming in constantly like they do help but it also is like you got to entertain or like show more cups are you know right yeah it's like they they can help with the exhausting parts of like the baby but then they are exhausting and they're also a baby too to a certain extent they're also pooping up their back yeah they're pooping on their back they're clogging toilets you know what i mean there's a lot of like poop the poop drama does not stop at the baby you know what i mean that's an all-ages activity. It is.
Starting point is 00:05:46 I'm glad to hear that. It's true. Some things don't change. Yeah. My parents have not. I don't know if I want to put my parents on blast. They listen to this. But let's say that we've had some.
Starting point is 00:05:59 I don't think we've gone one trip where they visited without a plumbing issue of one sort or another. Wow. We'll leave it at that. Maybe we'll cut that. I don't think we've gone one trip where they visited without a plumbing issue of one sort or another. Wow. We'll leave it at that. That's, you know, maybe we'll cut that. I don't know. Man, you've only left two suspects for that. The biggest question, what I'm trying to do is trying to figure out, because I feel like you can really tell the type of person with what they do with the plunger after. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:06:22 Oh, yeah. Because there is no, like, protocol. It's like, you got to use some critical thinking so it's like what did you do with it and where did you put it right yeah and yeah i won't say in the kitchen sink washing it in the kitchen sink to dry over the plates to dry in the in the dish in the dish rack destroying track yeah oh yeah growing up we i remember our plunger was in a plastic shopping bag like in the dishwater. In the dish rack. Dish drying rack, yeah. Oh, yeah. Growing up, I remember our plunger was in a plastic shopping bag, like in the corner. And I remember going to places, people's house. I'm like, yo, you just got the loose plunger?
Starting point is 00:06:55 Yeah, just a loose plunger. Like, what are you going to do? Where do you think that goes? Yeah. Like, when it's being used. And then after, we just let it settle there. yeah like when it's being used and then after you're we just let it settle there i mean i've mastered the art of like tapping it on the rim of the toilet to get all the excess water off at the end and then like sheathing it in the plastic bag again but when you got loose sheathing hell yeah
Starting point is 00:07:16 yeah i have to use like that motherfucker because i want to sound i wanted to sound more official than like throwing that shit back in a shopping bag. I've gotten much better. Like that is one of the old old man skills that I feel like has improved like drastically over the course of my life is like unclogging a toilet. I just had that thought the other day. I was unclogging a toilet. I was like, damn, I really have this now. It's all about getting the water in the plunger. You need to fill the plunger up with water yeah no 20 of my childhood was like oh i think it's one more
Starting point is 00:07:50 flush and it's fixed and it was like going downstairs and watching the waterfall and be like this is the worst thing that could ever happen right i like you bigging up yourself like as you're plunging a toilet you're're like, damn, looking in the mirror like, who's that motherfucker? Oh, it's you. That's right. That is correct. It's him. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:12 A lot of experience. I'm just going to put it out there. What is something from your search history that is revealing about who you are? Yeah. So mine is I was looking up one of the searches I did earlier this week. It just said Lyle breaking bad. Um, I guess I was watching better call Saul and I was looking up just obscure, uh, this obscure character named Lyle who runs, uh, who's the assistant manager of the chicken shop. And this is just something that I like to do
Starting point is 00:08:40 in terms of like when I watch TV shows or movies especially when i just think of a show that i watched like 20 years ago like i don't know if the two of you ever watched lost when it was out like that was such one of my favorite shows and like once in a while or like something like more you know popular maybe something like the sopranos you know or the wire things like that once in a while i'll just be laying in bed at two in the morning and think of a really random character and the best part about it is there's these dedicated wiki pages to these shows and i will just read their character history from like season one to season six and just give myself a refresher of the life of these fictional characters and it's just i guess this is just
Starting point is 00:09:21 something i like to do just dive into these fictional universes. Wait, so what did you learn about Lyle, the assistant manager of Lost Boys? Yeah, so I was really confused because he popped up on this latest episode of Better Call Saul, which is like a prequel to Breaking Bad. And I completely forgot that he had this whole story arc. So I just wanted to check in on you know when he was hired when he was fired his highlights and lowlights and things like that and um i've completely already i've completely already forgot what i read from like monday so that just goes to show you how much memory i retain i thought it was just fans being like yo they should bring back lyle like was me like 13 or something he's child. How the fuck did they bring him back without him being like,
Starting point is 00:10:07 hey, it's me, Lyle. Listen, it's TV, man. They make the magic happen. They've done something with de-aging. Like, there was a breakthrough in de-aging. Have you all watched Hacks? Yes. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:21 The, like, young footage of Jean of gene gray like gene gray or gene smart the de-aging is i mean she might be a mutant because of how dang good they're they they're able to just like dh her my wife was wait, so was she a famous stand-up and this is like real footage? Because she really, like they've nailed it, man. It still looks a little uncanny. What's that Scorsese Netflix movie? Well, that one kind of looked like shit to me.
Starting point is 00:10:56 The de-aging was terrible on that one. Yeah. Like it was distracting. Was there a leap forward? And by the way, they spent like $250 million on that to get that de-aging technology. And I was like, all right, can we just give up on de-aging? Because it's never going to work, apparently.
Starting point is 00:11:12 I guess Pesci looked somewhat young in some of the things. But De Niro looked like he should be working security on the polar express for like he just like looked dead-eyed and weird i think yeah you don't think gene smart looks good and like as the young i think it i'm just saying it to me i still clock it as being like edited by computers so for sure but not just like deductively where i'm like well this can't exist so therefore must be computers but like i think the benefit to those clips are they're already like aged media so like making something from 80s vhs look clean is much easier than like shooting someone in like 4k and being like make that shit look clean so i think the point miles the challenge is a little bit different just to put on my old production brain for a second and but in that sense like because i don't know if you
Starting point is 00:12:08 saw stranger things this last season they did a lot of young 11 stuff and even then i was like that looks a little that looks a little uh computery but it nonetheless it looks better than you know what we've seen in the past for sure sure. What we're accustomed to. Yeah. So wait, how'd they do Lyle? Like what? Lyle? Did he look old? He's the assistant manager. He's assistant managers at Los Polos Hermanos.
Starting point is 00:12:33 Right. But showing him in Better Call Saul, did he look much drastically different than the memories from when he was on season? No, he looks the same. He actually looks the exact same. I feel like Better Call Saul is the type of show they they're not that crazy on the de-aging like like they i think they feel like the fans understand you know this is a prequel so like we don't need to kind of just
Starting point is 00:12:53 like you know pay 250 million dollars on lyle and you know throw it in your face yeah and also like they've had like the help of baba odinkirk just, like, suddenly getting in, like, incredible shape after. That's right. For his other roles. And also, like, Mike's character, the actor who plays Mike, he just looks like he's 70 at all times. Yeah, exactly. So it's not like you need to make a big difference there. Right.
Starting point is 00:13:19 Yeah, yeah. Well, that's why. I'm glad to see Lyle. yeah well that's why i'm glad to see lyle i remember clogging him as like somebody who actually looks like they have nailed the casting of somebody who works at a it's like they actually went into a chicken spot yeah they just found the guy and they're like yeah we're just gonna typecast you i was of age, one more thing about this. I just found out recently that Ray Sehorne, the actress who plays Kim Wexler, she's 50 in real life. I swear I thought she was like a 32-year-old. Yeah, she really reads 32 for sure.
Starting point is 00:13:57 Yeah, I mean, on some level, I'm very impressed. And I'm like, man, that is just a perfect, you know, human specimen. But, like, the Bob Odenkirk of it, like, you hear him talk about, like, what his past five years have been like. And, like, you know, he's got a staff that comes and works on his body with him like he's LeBron James. And, like, you know, so when it's a full-time job that pays well i feel like i get it you know that like so that is that's what's possible and it's interesting to like see what the limits of capitalism and that being you know human will and vanity can do but no i think that's such a great point because i've always told people like if i had the money i get i get in real good shape
Starting point is 00:14:43 like i look right like i'd hire a personal trainer have someone scream at me every day because i'm not the type that can just like self-motivate myself to like go to the gym my exercising is biking a lot of walking a lot of cardio but like i don't know man i hear people and like even have friends who have like personal trainers and stuff and i'm like man i gotta devote my money somewhere else i just go to the gym for the culture i actually don't lift but i just like like gym culture and just the conversations people just people watching yeah just people watching getting to know any people asking me to sign up for gym membership so i can give him the guest pass like they already banned me from there you're my downline you're my downline. Because you just walk around, hands on your hips, sucking your teeth. All right.
Starting point is 00:15:27 Okay. Which kind of squat are you trying to do there? Because it's not any type of squat I know. I'm here every day. I don't do squats. What's your name, Rick? Oh, Michelle? Okay.
Starting point is 00:15:38 I do go by Rick when I'm at the gym, actually. So it's helpful. What is something you think is underrated? So I had tweeted something about this yesterday i find on social media that there are a lot of people who always want to be the smartest person in the room the underrated thing for me is sometimes it's okay to not have a thought an opinion or a hot take like it's okay for you to not be the smartest person in the room like i even said i have a doctorate degree and I don't even pretend to act like I know everything. Like I just don't. Like I genuinely will speak on things that I think need to be spoken on. And then there are just some things
Starting point is 00:16:12 that I'm just like, I don't really have an opinion on that. Like I just don't care. And I think every, I think we really need to like, I feel like if we got, we're more invested in not always trying to be the smartest person on the internet, I feel like the internet would be a much more enjoyable place. I think that's such a novel idea to not say something when you have no idea what you're talking about. I definitely find in those scenarios, you know, in our overly connected world of Twitter, you probably have seen a thought that maybe speaks or puts to words your opinion in a way that's informed and smart and said by someone who has done the research.
Starting point is 00:16:50 And rather than simply parent what they're saying in your own words that are kind of come out stilted or maybe not 100% baked, I just hit the old retweet. And then you know what you do? You give that person the power. You like give that person the platform and the stage. And you know what? You can leave your voice out of it so i really appreciate that a lot yeah that part i
Starting point is 00:17:11 simply will just say that part or oh my gosh this is awesome or like i am so glad someone finally said it like you don't always have to be that person to regurgitate an idea and it's just but you know what i think what i was more speaking to there is someone that i engage with on internet on on the insta insta like twitter just everywhere and this person always seems to want to take your thought in like like well what do you mean here what do you do and i'm like okay i'm not doing this so i have them muted now but it's one of those like that's what I was specifically speaking to was those individuals who always seem to want to like engage in something
Starting point is 00:17:50 and make it more than what it really is. It's really hard. So, yeah. And that person right now is repeatedly asking you, but what do you mean? No, seriously, like right here, what do you mean? What do you, like just in a vacuum, just in the vacuum of space
Starting point is 00:18:05 by themselves just oh i gotta say just as an addendum i have made it my job with this podcast part of my job to be the dumbest person in the room with like a really brilliant series of uh co-hosts or miles when he's around and just brilliant guests and that is uh you do it so well highly thank you so much that is a wonderful you know you learn you get better and you just openly embrace your your stupidity i highly recommend it it's fun sometimes to embrace that what some of you think is overrated most online discourse revolving around film like film twitter brings me such uh such psych it radiates such psychic immense psychic damage to me uh i have to watch another person yell at someone else for like
Starting point is 00:18:59 liking a movie like i just can't do it it's no it means nothing guys like let them enjoy the thing if they want to watch transformer six who gives a shit like it no one's getting out of this thing alive like just enjoy it guys yeah you know when did you die okay because i feel like this is an evolution all people have like because and i'll speak for myself right i was like a very opinionated film kid yeah from around 12 years old just by virtue of growing up in la my mom being a film critic so i had fucking opinions yeah then college i became in fucking sufferable like with i would be like no turn this off like this is so direct like just so pretentious and then around i think maybe like my maybe to like late twenties, like I heard my, I heard like out loud, like how I was talking about something.
Starting point is 00:19:50 And I was like, this is such a waste of energy that like I became embarrassed for myself. And I was just like, this is actually not even useful to anybody except my ego. Yeah. I was the exact same way. Like I remember in film school, like this, these are, these are the film, the films, the cinema you need to watch. Right. And then I got older. I was like, you you know who gives a shit yeah i want to watch uh the 36 chambers of shaolin that's just as much fun as watching the bicycle thief or
Starting point is 00:20:12 whatever you're right uh or for the 400 blues like who gives a shit yeah and i think probably all the star wars like just loser star wars fans that had shit to say like the last couple years i was like oh my god this is so stupid just let the fuck it like trust me i had issues with some of the films but i don't give a fuck enough when we have so much other shit going on yeah i'm like like yeah like i'm gonna give the country three more president elections before it collapses so i'm like you know what who cares you enjoy your justice league? Enjoy your Justice League Snyder Cut. Who gives a shit? Like, we'll have plenty of time to bicker about the Snyder Cut when we're in forced labor camps for political reasons.
Starting point is 00:20:50 Yeah, yeah. We're in the camps outside Lejeune. We'll have plenty of time to argue about whether who shot first, Han or Greedo. Yeah. Like, the main thing I'm interested in hearing is, like, people who are, are like calling out movies that are secretly like much better than we gave them credit for like that's the only use i have for critics now and i can't even think of a good example the way that the ideas are communicated right when it's like i'm dunking on you because you're stupid and you don't know this about film then i'm like this you
Starting point is 00:21:23 you're losing me but like to the to your point if it's like there's something that isn't discussed enough i think it's really just about the presentation when people come with their chests out it's like yeah i think the energy like having like just a little nugget of kindness but hey i want to this is a thing that i watch that i really enjoy i think other people would enjoy i think that's the energy i'm looking for these days uh like the neck i mean most online discourse is is poisonous to begin with but like i uh the the need to like dunk and roast and just like drag people it's exhausting after seeing it for so long you're just like man we maybe maybe just like maybe just like coming with some nice energy maybe that's what we need maybe that's what people need for online discourse kindness
Starting point is 00:22:01 kindness who would have thought will it win win no it's not but you know jack did you did you ever have like a just like a weird film take that you were really like charged up about like in your in your younger days when you're like that devoted too much energy to that film like a anti like whatever even if it's a negative take? Were you an evangelical? Or were you a hater? I was always interested in talking about movies that I was really into,
Starting point is 00:22:31 even if they were dumb. I like talking about movies. I like to read movie reviews, but I didn't ever have like a, this is trash. I had more of a Die Hard 4 is just as good as die hard three and die hard two take or like the jaws sequels have more value than people give them credit for i almost got in a fight
Starting point is 00:22:56 because i insisted walk hard was one of the worst films ever made the dewey cox story huh the dewey cox yeah that's so funny and like and like in hindsight i was like it's kind of funny but at that time i was i thought i had like not even a third eye like a fourth and fifth eye opened up for cinema i was like this is so such a waste of energy like i don't know what the fuck i what i was going i mean i was going through a breakup at the time i know exactly what's going on so i just hated everything but i remember everyone was like yo this is like this is too much but anyway shout out to those old times what about you zig did you ever film like you rode too hard for or or against in that era i mean yeah it's i mean i when i tell you i thought the first transformer
Starting point is 00:23:46 movie transformers music was so fucking good this movie is great it's got great action it's got great pacing it looks fantastic all the actors are banging and then i re-watched it like maybe like two weeks later with a friend and like halfway through i was like oh this movie i think is a piece of shit like there's only like there's only like two action scenes like it's also like like like there's a one point like a robot pisses on like john taturo i'm like this is stupid like this is like robo excrement can we explain that or no i'll say that's that is the one place that i will be like real harsh and start like shitting on a movie is if i have like like if it tricked me like forrest gump when i saw it when i was 12 i was like this movie is just all americana and then i wrote an after hours episode about forrest gump and it was the meanest i've ever been to a
Starting point is 00:24:36 movie in any format and i think justifiably so i think that's one of the like most harmful movies about american history that's ever been made but yeah that went when it's like ah you got me you son of a bitch then i'll probably have a little bit more of an edge on me i just couldn't get off my fucking high horse with stuff that's why like i look back i'm like you really tried to make your like your shit known by going hard at walk hard yeah what you guys miles really fucking took down dewey cox in this i don't think you should read his newsletter he's got some thoughts yeah exactly check out his youtube page i don't know how much do you think just the mood you're in going into a movie determines like what whether it's a four star versus like a one star or two star experience i think that has has everything it has everything to do with it and i feel that's why i'm
Starting point is 00:25:33 like not interested in reviews is like i'm just like yo you were having a bad day man like that's how i feel about movies when i'm having a bad day like i say also like i think my version i said the inverse of that is like going in thinking something's going to be a complete piece of shit and then you watch it you're like all right this is like fine so i think that's where i got a lot of like my three out of five three out of five stars would come like oh i came in i think it's going to be absolute dog shit and it's just like a fine movie so now i'm just like yeah you should go see this movie it's it's like because you started at a negative one it yeah four star rendered it to just a three out of five basically it's like i burned one star overcoming my like
Starting point is 00:26:09 preconceived notions yeah like the energy thing i'll just i'm i don't know if i'm putting a bow on it but like in high school i remember getting so mad at somebody acting like they were too good to see anger management that i put him to sleep and i like i choked him out because i was like i was going like a friend of yours you wanted to go to see anger management no like no like he was like yo i was i saw anger management over the weekend she was so bad i walked out and i said oh you're a real tough guy huh and i just like jumped on it was so like this is me at my worst aggro like you know parents splitting up i don't know who the fuck i am phase i mean we're cool now but it was just again a
Starting point is 00:26:50 moment where my mood even just my life tough guy huh yeah it was unbelievable like you see oh you think that's oh you think you better than anger management? Like, what? Oh, my God. Yeah. Look, I've done a lot of growth. A lot of healing. I'm recovering from post-anger management. That was one of, like, five movies in my career as a film critic for the Georgetown Hoya. That was one of the films I reviewed. And somebody got mad at me for being too nice to it.
Starting point is 00:27:21 They were like, this movie's not good. What's wrong with you? I'm like, pfft. That was probably me wrong with you? I'm like, that was probably me. That was the guy that Miles choked out. Oh, tough guy, huh? Yeah. I remember. Me and you were just going back and forth
Starting point is 00:27:32 beating the shit out of this guy. Over eight minutes. You know that there's no way you're going to tuck yourself out of a situation that begins with, oh, you're a tough guy. That or like,
Starting point is 00:27:41 hey, what's up, big fella? Like, you're never getting out of that. Oh, you're a tough guy, huh? Like, even to this day, I remember it happened in the band room okay this is this is all right before band marching band practice kicked off and one of my homeboys to this day still talks about go oh you're a tough guy huh like you know we referenced that moment because it was just like everyone's like what is wrong with you? He's talking shit about anger management, man. Oh, he said the second act didn't work.
Starting point is 00:28:07 Oh, my man can spend the money to go to AMC and then walk out too? Okay, so you're all like, wow. Okay, money bags. Okay, let's see what that windpipe do. Like, where was I? Such a great movie to reveal your anger management issues about. It was just too, look, 16, 17-year-old Miles was not doing great. I want to see Miles Rumbler's background and just see a giant poster of it behind his head.
Starting point is 00:28:35 Yeah, and a bunch of fist-sized holes in the drywall. Yeah. All right. Let's take a quick break. We'll be right back. Yeah. All right. Let's take a quick break.
Starting point is 00:28:43 We'll be right back. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and LA-based Shekinah Church, an alleged cult that has impacted members for over two decades. Jessica and I will delve into the hidden truths between high-control groups and interview dancers, church members, and others whose lives and careers have been impacted, just like mine. Through powerful, in-depth interviews with former members
Starting point is 00:29:25 and new, chilling firsthand accounts, the series will illuminate untold and extremely necessary perspectives. Forgive Me For I Have Followed will be more than an exploration. It's a vital revelation aimed at ensuring these types of abuses never happen again. Listen to Forgive Me For I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradente. And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline, a new podcast from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. When you're just starting out
Starting point is 00:29:58 in your career, you have a lot of questions. Like, how do I speak up when I'm feeling overwhelmed? Or can I negotiate a higher salary if this is my first real job? Girl, yes. Each week, we answer your unfiltered work questions. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in experts who do, like resume specialist Morgan Santer. The only difference between the person who doesn't get the job and the person who gets the job is usually who applies. Yeah, I think a lot about that quote.
Starting point is 00:30:29 What is it like you miss 100% of the shots you never take? Yeah, rejection is scary, but it's better than you rejecting yourself. Together, we'll share what it really takes to thrive in the early years of your career without sacrificing your sanity or sleep. Listen to Let's Talk Off on the I heart radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Carrie champion.
Starting point is 00:30:53 And this is season four of naked sports where we live at the intersection of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry. Caitlin Clark versus angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game.
Starting point is 00:31:08 Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really near them. Why is that? I just come here to play basketball every single day and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports.
Starting point is 00:31:19 Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is unapologetically black. I love her. What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game? And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better. This new season will cover all things sports and culture.
Starting point is 00:31:41 Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. I've been thinking about you. I want you back in my life. It's too late for that. I have a proposal for you. Come up here and document my project. All you need to do is record everything like you always do. One session. 24 hours. BPM 110. 120.
Starting point is 00:32:12 She's terrified. Should we wake her up? Absolutely not. What was that? You didn't figure it out? I think I need to hear you say it. That was live audio of a woman's nightmare. This machine is approved and everything?
Starting point is 00:32:29 You're allowed to be doing this? We passed the review board a year ago. We're not hurting people. There's nothing dangerous about what you're doing. They're just dreams. Dream Sequence is a new horror thriller from Blumhouse Television, iHeartRadio, and Realm. Listen to Dream Sequence on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back.
Starting point is 00:32:57 And yes, it took a lot to bring the two parties together, but Donald Trump and Joe Biden have done it. Both of these candidates have caused their respective parties to be like, nah, fuck this. We will not be running it back, please. We are in this moment where you ask anybody in America what they think about the country's direction and you get the same answer, which is it's going down the toilet. For vastly different reasons, right? If you're a progressive person, you're like, man, we are being so inhumane to people and we aren't seeing any progress like the kinds that the leadership had promised people. aren't seeing any progress like the kinds that the leadership had promised people and if you're on the right they're like things are too humane for certain groups of people and we're not regressing fast enough well you look at these look at the theft of cvs's that's like that's the main thing that i feel like republic the crime is out of control did you see all the shoplifting right like that's not even a real story bro right is that like do you even have a cbs where you live actually no different market we don't have them
Starting point is 00:34:10 in my part of the country but anyway you know you look at the polls right now and it like you're saying it's the same thing democrats and republicans would rather someone else in 2024 for their respective party for their respective parties for democrats the polls show that they are not impressed by joe biden and would rather see another person so just 26 percent of democrats said they would prefer biden as their party's candidate 64 saying they want to see someone else had the ticket in 2024 that's of like registered voters if you ask democrats under 30 94 percent want biden to gtfoh i mean it just seems like physically that's gonna be a given regardless my man is old yeah yeah i mean that what did you cover the thing when he was like end of line repeat sentence oh
Starting point is 00:35:04 yeah we did when he ron bergen did that shit you're like ron bergen like, end of line, repeat sentence? Oh, yeah, we did. When he Ron Burgundy'd that shit? Ron Burgundy'd the shit out of it. He's also perfectly happy to run it back and just be slightly more popular than the Republican alternative. That's what he's saying. He's like, hey, I don't compare myself to the Almighty. I compare myself to the other alternative. That's a thing that he repeatedly says.
Starting point is 00:35:29 Great tactics. Yeah. It's like, no, man, people don't like you. We're worried that you're going to die any minute. And this is not it. My only concern is that they're going to be like, all right, vice president, you're up because that's been also not great. There's some cool sound bites I caught over the last couple of weeks. But I think, you know, most people rightly they point to his age.
Starting point is 00:35:57 And I honestly think every like I feel like that should be levied at like every member of Congress right now. Like y'all don't get it at all. Yeah. And also just his job performance as key factors and why they're like, yeah, maybe we're better off with some a person who's merely not going like, well, at least I'm not this thing. Maybe provide a vision that you can follow through on. And then Republicans, how do they feel? Well, the younger fascists, they aren't feeling their old guy either. It seems a clear majority. This from The New York Times, a clear majority of primary voters, so this is for a specific group, under 35 years old, 64%, and also 65% of those with at least a college degree, which they say is an indicator of where the donor class is. They told pollsters they would vote against Trump in a presidential primary.
Starting point is 00:36:45 They don't want to see Trump in a presidential primary. As it stands across the board, 49% of GOP voters would support Trump in a primary were it to happen today. 49%. 25% would support Ron DeSantis. And that number seems to be growing. And I think it's the same thing with Republicans. They're kind of like, yeah, Trump, you know, he's that was cool and all. And he normalized a bunch of heinous shit. But like we need somebody maybe a little bit younger and also someone who's not so fixated on like getting revenge on his 2020 foes. Not exclusively fixated on that. Yeah, they do.
Starting point is 00:37:26 2020 foes not exclusively fixated on that yeah they do they do point to that as being like yeah you know but i think that this we kind of lost steam on that one and the january 6 things aren't helping because that's slowly putting more people into the joe biden one fair and square column like although very you know in a small number but yeah it's it looks like this a similar issue for donald trump especially when you have a sexy young ron desantis in the wing but yeah i don't know i still think i think he would win if if they ran it back and it was trump versus biden because biden's just not like those numbers are still yeah like the biden numbers are wild like 94 want someone else that's not like 94 of americans don't think he should like run across the spectrum that's 94 of democrats don't want him to run like
Starting point is 00:38:15 i'm guessing they would still like vote for him in some cases but i don't know i it's just wild that they're like i i'm seeing the well uh biden still leads Trump in like a head to head poll, 44 percent to 41 percent. Like being posed as a like positive, like if Trump wins, if Trump runs and wins, like democracy is over in the country. Democracy is over in the country. We really can't like risk it and be like, I think he has like the statistical edge, especially when like those sorts of statistics have been drastically under, under counting his support, like from day one.
Starting point is 00:38:56 Like, yeah, we're fucking ourselves if we run this back. Well, we'll see what happens because we're dealing with two old guys who don't want to admit that they're past it either. You know what I mean? Which is the other interesting dimension. Trump over the weekend, he I don't know if he truth did or whatever, whatever dumb ass website he, you know, he rants on.
Starting point is 00:39:18 He he goes on to kind of defend being old, even though him and biden are looking at the same problems with the base uh it says quote president biden is one of the oldest 79s in history but but but by and of itself he is not an old man there are many people in their 80s and even 90s that are as good and sharp as ever biden is not one of them but it has little to do with his age. In actuality, life begins at 80. Oh, I think we're going to see a rematch. God, I've said like begins at 80 from day one. Like there's that you can't stop him with a truck and the entire might of the US Army from running. Trump is running. That's for sure sure and if he's not the republican candidate he's still running like it doesn't fucking matter he's gonna run he's gonna get a sizable portion of the vote like the we need the best candidate to stop him from actually winning well this is what i'm curious what what the republican strategists are trying to do too they're like fuck okay do we do we run them again clearly we feel that we could put like
Starting point is 00:40:25 a younger up-and-coming fascist in play and deliver on all the terrible like xenophobic theocratic dreams of like the the base at the moment um but i don't know i mean like the thing that we've seen is they're not they're they're they clearly fall in line when the when the hands are clapped together and they're told to get in their places. They also can't stop him. They tried to stop him in the 2016 primary and it didn't work. I mean, they didn't try that hard, but like that's they tried as hard as a like middle of the road Republican is able to try and stop him. Isn't it? And sorry, I haven't't said much i'm just like just seeing all the doom and it's just like not getting any better i'm like this is depressing but either side like we've clearly found the formula to win presidency is like a little bit of confidence delusion
Starting point is 00:41:17 and we like there's no other versions of that even like i understand the game of of it all and no one else wants to step up right yeah i mean i think there are probably democrats who are you know biding their time and being like all right he's gonna back down somebody needs to convince him to back down i i am like with every passing day i'm more convinced like we need a Bernie era parent or like some sort of left leftist populist candidate because not because like that. Those are my political views, but because we've tried it. Like so what we've seen is that the mainstream Democrats repeatedly underperform at the polls. The Republican populist people are like, like well that did not go well and there's just been like staggering support for like leftist populism since 2016 but it is the one
Starting point is 00:42:14 thing that america like will not allow itself to even like legitimize so yeah again this was absurd like what happened to matthew mcconaug running? That was the perfect disguise because no one could tell. Is he a Republican or Democrat? Like, let's just yeah, we enjoy some of his movies because the thing is, the president, that position does not matter. We're seeing, you know, with Rovers Wade and it's like, all right, Biden, you clearly don't agree. Do something about it. And if he can't do shit, then what's what's the position of power then um so i'm like yeah i'll see another actor in there an actor from our generation i'm down that's the question that i've had though is like can he really not do shit
Starting point is 00:42:55 because i've also seen people like pointing out that when for instance when reagan wanted to change the drinking age in america from 18 to 21 his uh administration just withheld like highway funding so like people couldn't fix their roads which is you know like they just like wouldn't give them any money until they agreed to change their drinking age which is like kind of a significant thing because it's like they had the some data that told them like that's what needed to happen. But it was going to cut out like a bunch of sales. Right. And like make them make the states lose money. And they just never recovered. What's that? The alcohol and spirits industry. Yeah, exactly. But that's what
Starting point is 00:43:44 they would have had you believe at that time for sure yeah i think i think louisiana is the only one that's left that's that like just has crumbling roads and a drinking age of 18 everywhere else is had to like come in line essentially yeah i mean i think in the era of like, you know, cable news and things like that, it just becomes a story. And like already Democrats don't like are not willing to use the same kind of levers that past administrations may have used to try and get the party in line. But I don't know. It's unless you're I mean, they'll definitely you'll feel the machine come against you if you're trying to do something that's like outside of the status quo. But yeah, it's. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:30 I think the Republicans are better at obstructing Democratic presidents than vice versa. I feel like we just need more young people to fucking run. Like, I just want to see people like I just want to see millennials argue like with 70 year old like lifetime politicians like on the floor of the capitol yeah and just be like no dude you're so old just i can't even listen to you yeah like this is this is all nonsense like you don't even get young people vote that would that's like we need stuff that can end up on highlight reels we don't need like we we try logical thinking and presenting like of course we can't abandon abortion like that that statement alone doesn't do it but you got to have like just radicals you got to have like people like young people who are just going nuts on this shit
Starting point is 00:45:19 what like if you look at all of our films right right now it's all about like parents like apologizing to their kids is like the thrust of so many of like our millennial like written and directed like films and tv it's kind of like this new thing where it's like parents are sorry about what they did meaning there's a lot of people that i actually don't like i don't like uh like the disney one like uh the like the big what was the the big red, you know, like there's a turning red or like everything everywhere all at once. There's like a lot of things where like adults are kind of looking back on like their hand and how their kids are or like what they're. And like that used to just be like not something we considered.
Starting point is 00:46:01 I think as millennials or people of a certain age, we like, we think about the connectedness of all that. And I feel like maybe as generationally, there's something to be like, yo, bro, you can go yell at your stepdad if you run for office, but you can do it on the floor and you can do it for like healthcare. Like we were talking about my parents are like in-laws being in here. And I like straight up told my, my father-in-law, I was like, we can't buy a house because you're a generation and you're a baby like you guys ruined it for us and he was like i know and i'm sorry right and so it was like we need that and a politician who was just like laying out how you
Starting point is 00:46:36 guys ruined it and like we just need someone who can change this system it's it's not like we need someone to go in there and do the job it's like the whole thing's got to change well yeah because the discourse is too it's like it's not quite communicating to the people like something that they innately feel and it takes like it's like you see these moments where like you see certain back and forths between members of congress and like someone who's like a real estate bank or something like whoa they just serve this like industry banker for like their their bad business practices and there is something where like industry banker for like their, their bad business practices. And there is something where like, you need more, like people need to understand that that's like
Starting point is 00:47:10 a huge thing, a huge energetic thing to tap into. But when we leave it as like, and vote for us to keep, you know, make sure that your educational costs are like, that's not that this, that shit doesn't connect with people anymore. It's like, you have to connect. A YouTube influencer, a person who knows how to work the head, the titles on YouTube, who knows the algorithm of TikTok, but can apply just just just reasonable, logical, common sense. Right. But no, it's like, I mean, for real, I'm like, maybe that's how. But no one's going to do that because it's like, oh, I have a brand deal with frickin me undies. Sorry, you guys have that. But you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:47:50 Right. It's like seven times this Congress person pwned the banking industry. And the thumbnail is like a banker with his eyes shooting out of their head. And you're like, damn, this is a great campaign ad. I agree. Yeah. And you're like, damn, this is a great campaign ad. I agree.
Starting point is 00:48:13 But I mean, we are seeing more people like who are like left leaning or young, like having success in American politics. Not not like the United States, but other like locally central and South American countries. And yeah, locally we're seeing it. It's just the mainstream media and corporate Democratic Party like fight it harder than even the Republicans. So that is like what needs to be overcome by our TikTok candidate. Oh, yeah. And eventually, you know, you'll get co-opted by the machine and they'll be like, yeah, man, that was great. I love how you get those bite-sized things out. Now, can you say that in support of this Saudi Arabian arms deal? Right. Yeah. All right. Let's take a quick break. We'll come back and talk about how gas is too cheap. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed.
Starting point is 00:49:13 Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and LA-based Shekinah Church, an alleged cult that has impacted members for over two decades. Jessica and I will delve into the hidden truths between high control groups and interview dancers, church members, and others whose lives and careers have been impacted, just like mine. Through powerful, in-depth interviews with former members and new, chilling firsthand accounts, the series will illuminate untold and extremely necessary perspectives. Forgive Me For I Have Followed will be more than an exploration. It's a vital revelation aimed at ensuring these types of abuses never happen again.
Starting point is 00:49:51 Listen to Forgive Me For I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradente. And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline, a new podcast from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. When you're just starting out in your career, you have a lot of questions like, how do I speak up when I'm feeling overwhelmed? Or can I negotiate a higher salary if this is my first real job? Girl, yes. Each week, we answer your unfiltered work questions. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice.
Starting point is 00:50:27 And if we don't know the answer, we bring in experts who do, like resume specialist Morgan Saner. The only difference between the person who doesn't get the job and the person who gets the job is usually who applies. Yeah, I think a lot about that quote. What is it like you miss 100 percent of the shots you never take? Yeah, rejection is scary, but it's better than you rejecting yourself. Together, we'll share what it really takes to thrive in the early years of your career without sacrificing your sanity or sleep. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry,
Starting point is 00:51:12 Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really near them boys. I just come here to play basketball every single day, and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed
Starting point is 00:51:27 the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is unapologetically black. I love her. What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game? And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better.
Starting point is 00:51:47 This new season will cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. I've been thinking about you. I want you back in my life. It's too late for that. I've been thinking about you. I want you back in my life. It's too late for that. I have a proposal for you.
Starting point is 00:52:10 Come up here and document my project. All you need to do is record everything like you always do. One session. 24 hours. BPM 110. 120. She's terrified. Should we wake her up?
Starting point is 00:52:24 Absolutely not. What was that? You didn't figure it out? I think I need to hear you say it. That was live audio of a woman's nightmare. This machine is approved and everything? You're allowed to be doing this? We passed the review board a year ago.
Starting point is 00:52:41 We're not hurting people. There's nothing dangerous about what you're doing they're just dreams dream sequence is a new horror thriller from blumhouse television iheart radio and realm listen to dream sequence on the iheart radio app apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts and we're back and do you guys have your fandango tickets yet for where the crawdads sing i'm running to the box office running oh you're gonna run instead of getting it on fandango so this was like a big bestseller smash hit like i i feel like I heard the title. I knew this book existed a couple years ago. I think it came out in 2019.
Starting point is 00:53:28 I thought it was hillbilly elegy adjacent because it seemed like it was the South. Am I right? The South. It is based in the South, but it is a murder mystery.
Starting point is 00:53:47 It's based on a girl who is a swamp girl who raises herself in the south but it is a murder mystery uh and it's based on like a girl who is like a swamp girl who raises herself in the swamp but she's beautiful and all the boys love her and then she kills one of them and then it's like the trial uh where it's like did she judge them or did they judge her or something like that anyways the movie version produced by reese witherspoon she made the book a hit by making it part of her book club which that is apparently the new oprah's book club did y'all know that no reese witherspoon yeah reese witherspoon's book club is like the new king maker in the world of literature and she's never once steered us wrong. I'm still waiting for my NFTs that she turned me on to to turn around. But I think they're coming back.
Starting point is 00:54:31 You got to buy the dip and then the cataclysmic spiral. Go ahead. I just remember that in Sweet Home Alabama, she goes, and you had a baby at a bar. That's all I remember. That's so funny you said that because immediately when you said Reese Witherspoon
Starting point is 00:54:46 has never steered us wrong, the movie that came to my mind was Sweet Home Alabama. The Lightning in the Glass? I haven't seen that movie. Run. Run. Don't walk. Here's a little taste of it. A lightning in the glass.
Starting point is 00:55:01 Sorry. If that intrigues you, then you really gotta go now excellent on point these days wow so the thing that was like most noteworthy about the book success like and the author was that it was like a 70 something first time author and that's what it that's how it was covered it was like you believe this person is writing for the first time author. And that's how it was covered. It was like, you believe this person is writing for the first time. And nobody really brought up the fact that she was involved
Starting point is 00:55:30 in a murder in Africa and had to flee Africa because of suspicion surrounding the murder. And because her son-in-law committed the murder on film while an ABC News film crew was with them.
Starting point is 00:55:47 So basically, her and her husband were conservationists went around trying to fight off poachers one of the ways they did that is by shooting at them from helicopters so they are a white couple in africa and people who knew them uh reported their feelings about africa were and I quote, nice continent, pity about the Africans. That's how they summed up their sort of vibes. And so while accompanied by a camera crew for the network news show Turning Point, her son-in-law murdered a poacher, not like the poacher pulled a gun on him.
Starting point is 00:56:24 He waited at the camp for the poacher not like the poacher pulled a gun on him uh he waited at the camp for the poacher to return to his camp and then like shot him six times and then her husband allegedly took the body up in his helicopter and dropped it in a lake so it was never found yikes yeah and so like i remember reading this new yorker story because the new yorker did a story about this is like there's these two people who just like got away with murder and also it's like wow because they're like we're the only thing that's holding africa back from being overrun by poachers and like we that's why we have to be tough uh on poachers and like murder they don't say murder them,
Starting point is 00:57:05 but they're like, like, that's why we have a helicopter, I guess. And then like they, they have to flee because they murdered someone. And the authorities are like, yeah,
Starting point is 00:57:16 you definitely murdered someone. Like we, we know what happened. And then like the New Yorker journalist, like goes back and like researches. And he's like, actually it's much better now than it was when they were here. And they weren't helping
Starting point is 00:57:30 as much as they thought they were if at all. The community is glad they're gone. Anyways, the fact that this was not brought up, you have to have like it's, she didn't change her name
Starting point is 00:57:46 she still has the same name as she did like eight years before when the new yorker wrote a massive profile of her like being part of this thing and it does like tie into i could see people like being like well they're too totally it's not like her book is about committing a murder in africa and getting away with it so first of all she she and her husband wrote memoirs when they were in africa and they were like not great that they had this one story where they were like talking about um this cook that they had uh this african cook and they like told the story of of him being like i'd always wanted to meet like somebody who had flown in a plane like when you're in a plane are you close to the stars like and then so the new
Starting point is 00:58:42 yorker author like goes and interviews the cook and he's like i flew in the fucking air force i'm what are you what are you talking about like but it's just this and then that is like fetishizing and that that's also like characters in her book where the crawdad thing like there's a black family that are like the you know magical characters and it's yeah so it's a mess it's
Starting point is 00:59:13 just crazy that like the media was did not we're not like hey this book has like very strong white supremacy tendencies this person was involved in a white supremacist murder and is laying low in the United States and is the author of this book.
Starting point is 00:59:36 That's amazing. Wow. Yeah. So I don't know. I love the idea of laying low in the United States. Yeah, laying low. Casually. Making a movie.
Starting point is 00:59:44 Making a movie. Yeah. Writing a book. Reese Witherspoon United States. Yeah, laying low. Casually. Making a movie. Making a movie. Writing a book. Reese, you missed this one. You really did. I want to say something kind of controversial. I really hope that this doesn't go the wrong way. But I feel like I so much as say something
Starting point is 01:00:00 stupid on Twitter, I can't live that down. How is this woman getting away with this say something stupid on twitter i can't live that down yes how is this woman how is this woman getting away with this when i go my butt on twitter it's like i just feel like that's just who i am for the next 20 years i'm glad you did it yeah i'm glad you did address the my butt tweet because we were gonna have to bring it up eventually it's been it's on everyone's mind you know what i'm saying i just feel that that that actually is crazy
Starting point is 01:00:31 example yeah privilege that oh yeah yeah yeah of course get away with like murder literal murder you know yeah and also like using white supremacy to, because she's telling, like, a romantic southern tale of white supremacy, like, she's able to become a national celebrity twice. Once for murder and another for writing a book that everyone's like, yes. That's crazy. We're not seeing it. I heard the name. I go, I'm out. We're seeing Minions.
Starting point is 01:01:05 Yeah, we're seeing Minions twice. Have you seen it yet? Did you wear your suit? Well, I was telling Kyle about the trend. The Gentle Minions. The Gentle Minions. I love that. I love the TikTok.
Starting point is 01:01:21 Just don't throw stuff at the screen. Oh, that's what they were doing too? Throwing bananas at the TikTok. Just don't throw stuff at the screen. Oh, that's what they were doing too? Throwing bananas at the screen. I'm a little shocked, honestly, that the title Gentle Minions does not also carry into the behavior. You'd think the whole idea of wearing suits and walking in in this nice orderly fashion,
Starting point is 01:01:38 trying to make some sort of, I don't know, statement, whatever the heck they're doing. They're the kids. But then that just drops the second you're in the movie theater? What's up with that? Yeah, what's up with that? I mean, it had follow through, you know, commit to the bit. Follow through. But it's pretty sick that they're just making their own, like,
Starting point is 01:01:52 Rocky Horror, you know? Yeah. Yeah. That's sick. That is fun. That is really fun. I think that's fun. It's maybe not fun at the expense of, let's say, AMC employees, but, you know, yeah. Right. Maybe that's the next wave of gentle minions. The next rise of Gru 2, perchance.
Starting point is 01:02:07 The gentle minions actually clean up after themselves. You clean up after yourselves. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, that should be part of the deal. The one thing that I wanted to comment on was that when I was growing up, I'd go to Lake Tahoe and we would catch crawdads. So they also sing in Lake Tahoe.
Starting point is 01:02:24 Oh, nice. Okay. It's actually a universal national experience yeah so when you say the crawdad thing i say think of a more specific title yeah oh wow oh so it's a critique about i love that thank you i love that and where is that supposed to be because crawdads exist in many places i know that they have sung in Tahoe. They have sung in Tahoe. Where the water is wet. Yeah, where the water is wet. Where the sky is blue. Swamp Girl is great.
Starting point is 01:02:53 I love Swamp Girl. Pretty Swamp Girl murderer. Yeah. Look, she's pretty. The Swamp Girl murders. How about that? The Swamp Girl murders.. How about that? The Swamp Girl Murders. Swampy Murders.
Starting point is 01:03:10 Love a Swampy Murder. Love a Swampy Murder. All right, let's talk real quick about McGruff. McGruff is back in the house. I did just want to... You guys are all, I think, younger than me by a pretty, all I know, a pretty significant amount.
Starting point is 01:03:28 What is your relationship to McGruff, the crime dog? I think my generation of elementary school presentations by some haggard individual kind of skipped the dare McGruff phase and just went straight to the like yeah i did heroin and it was bad went straight to that phase wait you had like people from recovery programs come in and talk yes yes it was it was less corporate centric and more just individual person representing their own past centric right yeah got it but were they like real scared straight about it yeah no they they they were i mean you know when you're talking to a room full of 13 year olds that are like making fart noises every time you say something it's kind of like you know what do you you do your
Starting point is 01:04:13 best you do your best you share your message and then um that's all you gentle minions it sounds like kyle and what about y'all did you uh have any experience with mcgruff or any dare programs or any of that stuff i I think I remember the commercial. Did he talk like this? Yeah, he talked real loud. Real McGruff bars. Not surprisingly, McGruff is like a police. He was created by the Ad Council to be the police version of Smokey Bear.
Starting point is 01:04:40 And I remember, I think I might have had this pop music album called McGruff's Smart Kids. Ooh. Smart Kids Say No to Drugs. It sounds bad, but there's something about it that really, I was like, oh, I've seen that many times before. There's a song called Marijuana that sounds like Danny DeVito belting out an 80s power ballad about how pot is like banging your head against the wall. Actually, do you want to? Should we play it? We certainly could.
Starting point is 01:05:14 Never cry. Marijuana. Don't try it at all. This is pop. Yeah. It's like beating your head on a wall. What? Okay. That's not how marijuana is. This is pop. Yeah. What? That's not how marijuana is.
Starting point is 01:05:33 Yeah. I feel like he's dropping the McGruff character a little bit. Yeah. He's not selling McGruff. Yeah. Marijuana. I mean, that's just true wow wow that was really uh that was fun honestly those are slaps yeah i i grew up having recurring nightmares that a drug dealer was going to hold me down
Starting point is 01:06:02 cut my thumb with a razor blade and put cocaine in my blood to get me hooked. Like that is the version of drugs that they had put out there for me that I was like, oh man, which is exactly what ended up happening. But yeah, I think the war on drugs is, like we've all agreed, it was obviously a racist fight for mass incarceration.
Starting point is 01:06:27 And yet they're like still investing in McGruff. Then my PD spent more than thirteen thousand five hundred dollars on eight McGruff costumes in 2015. In 2015. 2015. Yeah. Yeah. No, they're still still out here. What?
Starting point is 01:06:43 Doing the McGruff thing. Yeah. Doing the McGruff sounds like a TikTok dance. An NYPD spokesman, well, I'm sure they have brainstormed that as a TikTok viral video because an NYPD spokesman even admitted that the reason
Starting point is 01:07:00 why the police are willing to spend so much taxpayer money on McGruff costumes is because they can, quote, use them to go to schools and say, trust the police are willing to spend so much taxpayer money on McGruff costumes is because they can use them to go to schools and say, trust the police. Police are your friends. Wow. I'm going early. I don't think they were
Starting point is 01:07:15 supposed to say that out loud. Don't trust the police. Never talk to cops. Yep. Keep dogs out of it. Yeah. There was out of it. Yeah. Yeah. Dogs are innocent.
Starting point is 01:07:27 There was some argument I saw recently about how like making more drugs legal would like give. It was some cop was like, well, what do we do with all the dogs? And they'll be out of a job as if dogs having jobs was like, that's the concern. Let them. Those are the unemployment numbers. I'd check first. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 01:07:44 I've seen a lot of unemployed dogs. My dog doesn't want to lose his job. Dog for bed. He's scared. Alright, that's gonna do it for this week's weekly Zeitgeist. Please like and review
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