The Daily Zeitgeist - Weekly Zeitgeist 319 (Best of 4/29/24-5/3/24)

Episode Date: May 5, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me for I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and Shekinah Church. Listen to Forgive Me for I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:00:30 I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese.
Starting point is 00:00:39 Every great player needs a foil. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have
Starting point is 00:00:46 changed the way we consume women's sports. Listen to the making of a rivalry Caitlin Clark versus Angel Reese on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast or wherever you get your podcast. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. Hey, I'm Gianna Pardenti
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Starting point is 00:01:22 then I think it sort of eases us a little bit. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hello, the internet, and welcome to this episode of the weekly Zeitgeist. These are some of our favorite segments from this week, all edited together into one non-stop infotainment laugh-stravaganza. So, without further ado, here is the Weekly Zeitgeist. Miles, we are thrilled to be joined in our third and fourth seats by two legends, legend-mates, And fourth. the show dave anthony and gareth right hi welcome thank you hi 10 years guys how's it going what is happy prepper day yeah thanks thanks and to you as well may everyone with your spirit boof your details i'm teaching my son how to make homemade claymores
Starting point is 00:02:40 yeah that won't blow off in your hands no no yeah i hope not yeah that's how i lost that's how i lost my last one but the first two if memory serves yeah two okay yeah it was two but this one's 14 the other ones were eight so i think i feel good about where this one's at there you go yeah yeah you're tweaking the process you're like introduce them to the plastic explosives like at 11 that's right yeah right i get it i get it man 10 years though is uh pretty i mean like we were just jacking everything you're like we're about to we're getting into like our seventh year but not like later this year and we're like is that forever but 10 also like from even from seven years feels like a super long time so just to get each other on your 10th anniversary podcast co-hosts uh well 10th 10th is the wood sacrifice 10th is the wooden
Starting point is 00:03:32 one uh so we we jerked off in front of each other there you go for the first time for the wood yeah yeah exactly yeah precisely precisely no it's absolutely it's really crazy and i don't even think it was i don't know personally i didn't really think about it too much. Yeah. Until we were actually like doing a thing for it. And then I was like, this is really crazy. 10 years in general, I've always thought that about like my niece and nephew. I'm like, they, now I can tell that I'm aging because of their existence.
Starting point is 00:04:00 I'm the same with the dollop. Like when we started, I mean, the fact that I was like mid thirties i'm like i was a kid right right right yeah a child strange a child a babe yeah but no it's great we're very happy and glad to move on yeah right focus on the work thank you well yeah we all benefit from the work talking about you know work and talking about, you know, weirdos. That's right. I mean, you just, I got to say, the most recent episode as of this publishing is one of my favorite dollops ever. I've been listening for a long time,
Starting point is 00:04:36 but still got the fastball, you know? Some LeBron James longevity. Yeah, no, we went to Germany. We got special injections in Germany. That's really helped. You look loose. Yeah, we're loose. We're still loose. Stem cells straight into the base of the skull.
Starting point is 00:04:53 You know? We're good. It is amazing too because even in the episode, you're like, do we have another goat side character? That's 10 years in and it's still finding just the mccormick dude gave us uh quite a quite quite a lot for me to actually envision as you guys were talking about that guy and all of his you know contraptions and lifestyle yeah really crazy
Starting point is 00:05:18 yeah there's some that are like there's somewhere it's like okay you gotta like you know it's historically very interesting and you maybe need to try to well out a little more comedy and then there's somewhere you're like i gotta like stop talking i mean i could see this could be a four-hour episode you know what the fuck is going on can you keep describing this guy actually yeah could you read that again yeah like i said i think it's the first time i was like you read up like a paragraph one more time oh yeah right yeah amazing well we're actually going to talk about that guy yeah because the the premise of this episode we want to discuss some of the themes that kind of pop up time and
Starting point is 00:05:59 again on the dollop in american history that we have seen. Now, this might seem strange because Americans famously very historically literate people, and that's supposed to be the cure for having history repeat itself. But there are a couple of things that we see popping up in the zeitgeist, the modern zeitgeist. So we wanted to just kind of talk about some of these trends, get you guys' thoughts on some of these trends that you've covered a couple times and that are still that we are covering in our daily news podcast yeah it's funny because it is like history the saying history does repeat itself is actually extremely lazy because to your point it's like yeah if people just i mean i'm among them but if people just paid attention you'd be like hey no we're like that's where we get Nazis
Starting point is 00:06:45 yeah careful we did this one yeah this is bad we did this yeah you got a lot of unemployed soldiers I don't think that goes well yeah it doesn't usually yeah either way
Starting point is 00:07:00 did you see the Connors this week yeah but we got wifi now though that's like the difference dude I don't see the Connors this week? Yeah, but we got Wi-Fi now, though. That's like the difference, dude. Yeah. I don't watch the Connors since it went woke. What is something from your search history that is revealing about who you are or what you're up to? It's a little controversial. My search histories always go wacky, though.
Starting point is 00:07:23 I literally am giving you the most recent thing I looked up, which is 12 waitresses kidnapped from North Korea. Oh, my God. This is literally the last thing I search. Is this a new album? Is this someone's album coming out? Yeah, it's USAID sponsored. New music project. It'll be on Radio America or whatever that propaganda news radio is.
Starting point is 00:07:44 Wait, so what's, dare I ask, what this is? It'll be on Radio America or whatever the propaganda news radio is. Wait, so what's, dare I ask, what this is? It's just a story from a few years ago where, okay, so I don't know if you know this, but in North Korea, they have restaurants in other places around the world. And people from North Korea will go work in the restaurants. And I guess there were these 12 waitresses who had a manager of this restaurant and they were all working there there. And he was like, Yeah, we're gonna go it's gonna be so cool. We're gonna go to China to work in this restaurant or South Korea, I can't even remember which. And when they left the country, he was like, haha, psych, you're defectors now. And I just made 100k. And they were like, what, like horrified. And so you have these 12 women who are like, we just want to go back home. And their manager got paid like a hundred thousand dollars to traffic them out of the country basically it's a
Starting point is 00:08:29 wild story um okay i i'm pretty sure it's by nis which is the south koreans equivalent like south korea's equivalent of like the cia or like the fbi like intelligence services but again i just cursed i was like a hasty like i remember this story i need to reread this again so it's not super fresh in the mind i pulled it up for later rereading yeah yeah yeah right right so you're right we're we're not fully vetting anything right now but that wait so they have i didn't even realize that there are restaurants outside of north korea that then like just what serve as like sort of like soft propaganda centers? I think it's maybe. Yeah, they do like food.
Starting point is 00:09:07 They also do like song and dance. That's like traditional to North Korea. I mean, North Korea has like a fairly open trade alliance with China. So people from North Korea go to China. Sometimes there's trade that goes back and forth between them. So I'm pretty sure the bulk of the restaurants are in China. Yeah. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:09:25 And according to this article, the manager said he, according to him, he said these tickets to get them to Malaysia were paid for by the NIS. There we go. See, my memory wasn't so bad. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There you go. Okay. Interesting, right?
Starting point is 00:09:40 Yeah. And it's controversial because some people say it didn't happen or people just don't. I think people have like a really, people have a, this is something I've learned on the internet this week. People have a real resistance to learning anything about what happens in North Korea. So I think it's controversial because people are like, there's no way a man would be paid $100,000 to smuggle random women out of North Korea to be defectors. And you're like, oh, what happened to this guy? And he's like, yeah, you got me. Right.
Starting point is 00:10:08 That's wild. Yeah. Yeah. Americans are definitely like when it comes to like a thing that you're so like hit over the head with over the years and like, and it's this weird place where it's all messed up and it probably has nothing to do with anything America ever did. It's just weird on its own, on its own. And then you figure shit out and you're like, wait, I think, wait, what's happening here?
Starting point is 00:10:26 I don't think this is why it's weird, but okay, go off. Yeah, our involvement is, it's like an endless source of fascination to me. So I'm always like learning new things and I'm like, what? Right, right, right. Totally. Joe, what is something you think is underrated? Joe, what is something you think is underrated? I think we underrate the toll and task of the food delivery driver.
Starting point is 00:10:58 And I know there was some discourse about this recently in food delivery in general online. And I've always felt this way because I used to drive for Postmates years ago. And I always felt like the understanding that food delivery is an extreme luxury had never really been fully understood by the consumer. Yeah. I just have
Starting point is 00:11:20 memories of picking up truly no disrespect but Panda express things of this nature driving to a no disrespect to the people over at panda yeah yeah yeah but then going to like a terribly difficult area of town to park like if people know la like a place like korea town yeah having to having no choice but to park in front of a fire hydrant in front of a massive tower yeah going inside the tower having to check in with security having to wait for them to activate one of the elevators which
Starting point is 00:11:57 is always uh they a thing yeah it's always a thing and it takes a really long time and then you finally get in there you go up to whatever floor they're on, you get off and then you have to navigate the labyrinth. That is the gigantic apartment complex, go to their front door to deliver Panda Express to their front door. And there is, listen, I don't need a cheerful.
Starting point is 00:12:22 Thank you necessarily. But then when you go back in your car, see that you have a ticket, this has taken 20 minutes off of the clock and they did not tip you and you made $3. Yeah. I think it needs to be hammered home that if you're participating in this charade,
Starting point is 00:12:42 if you're participating in this and this so like extremely taxing and stressful activity for the driver to understand what that's doing and to to tip them like essentially 100 like there is no i know a lot of people online were like well what if you're neurodivergent and you have to do this and it's like listen that's not what we're talking about because i know most people yeah yeah like if there's some sort of disability or whatever, that's a different conversation. But I know that there's just a lot of people who just feel entitled to get food delivered to their door. Yeah. And not have to pay for the fact that that is the most luxurious thing.
Starting point is 00:13:19 Oh, for sure. It is wild because people are like, well, it said the delivery fee was like 49 cents. Plus like those fees. Like that fee was like 49 cents plus like those fees like i'm that's like isn't that like your pay it's like no man that's they're getting a fraction of that and then you think about do it exactly and like these apps are able to skirt minimum wage and labor yeah yeah these aren't employees these are independent contractors that don't fucking matter it's brutal also i just can't imagine the lack of awareness or the evil balls it would take i would be horrified to not tip someone doing that knowing the knowing like the way that kind of system has been constructed yeah
Starting point is 00:14:02 to shit on the people working there for sure but i think that's that's like the genius of so many of like these apps and things it's like they obscure the toll that it takes on the human being for you to get your fucking you know fucking cell phone case that you wanted on prime the next day or you know getting door dash it just feels like i don't know i press the button and then like because i put like don't even talk to me, just leave it at the door. And it just appears. And I know not of the person on the other side who is like having to deal with the same fucking gas prices that everyone else does. And just getting, yeah. Underrated. Agreed. Yeah. And, and if I can, uh, you know, proselytize a little bit, I would advocate for meeting your driver,
Starting point is 00:14:44 maybe out on the road. And if you don't want to do that and you live in an apartment building, at least in the lobby. Just walk down. Make it easier for them. So they can turn over, turn over, turn over. Yes. And it's good for you as well
Starting point is 00:15:00 because you don't have to wonder if they're going to be able to find your door. Like just make it easy so that you can get your food faster and then come back up. The other thing I will say is if you're doing delivery food, really reconsider getting a drink or a milkshake because those are very difficult to transport. I don't think people immediately consider that, but when you have just a bag of food, you put put in the passenger seat or you put it on the floor, it's easy. But if you have something you're juggling that could spill, it's very difficult not only to place in your car as you're transporting it, but then as you're
Starting point is 00:15:35 trying to pick it up and then open your door and then close the car door and then lock it and then get to then open the door of the building, all this stuff yeah if you're juggling like a big frothy milkshake uh that's just gonna be 17 frappuccinos that you ordered yes exactly yeah uh there is have you seen there's a subreddit called door dash gremlin and it's people who like when they get the like the food dropped off like if they're verifying that it's dropped off for the photo it's people that have been caught getting the bag from the door while the photo's being taken. So like, rather than like the photo of like a bag by the door,
Starting point is 00:16:10 it's like someone like in just a t-shirt, like Winnie the Pooh style, like their Taco Bell, like, ah, and so people like when they end up being a gremlin, they usually upload it. And it's always funny to see.
Starting point is 00:16:21 And like, that's when you can tell you're like, man, was it really, did you really have to get that delivery? But I get it sometimes. But look, if you're going to do it, at least fucking tip and know what the fucking cost is. Acknowledge the way to do it.
Starting point is 00:16:35 The luxury. Yeah. In a fair, equitable way. What is something you think is overrated? Okay. This is pretty niche. What is your just general knowledge of david mamet the playwright i know i think i read american buffalo in college i don't even know if that's
Starting point is 00:16:55 the right name obviously glengarry glenn ross and yeah that's and then his daughter was in girls yes okay that's what i've got for you. Perfect. Andrew? I was double checking. I thought he'd written the only movie I'd ever walked out of, but I was incorrect. So I think of David Mamet as, it's just like every character is David Mamet. I love when everyone has the exact same voice in an Italian movie or play. Yeah, yeah, yeah. that's it his yeah all his characters talk the same way and are and i i remember like making fun of david mammet when i
Starting point is 00:17:33 was in college was like a highly like literary sophisticated thing to do like i remember somebody being like i just imagine david mammet plays as a bunch of chickens up there saying the lines to each other and everyone like laughed really hard. And I was like, yes, I get that. You've been owned Mamet. But I don't know. He he felt to me like with just very little context, like it felt like one of those people who like gets super big in literary circles. then everyone's like wait this kind of sucks right we were wrong we were wrong about this like yeah really quickly after that i had a different i mean same same but different so unfortunately i went to acting school where david mammet plays are taught to you is good and also he has things where he's like every like no one can ever change a word and not only that my
Starting point is 00:18:26 commas are so fucking precise if you do not take a breath where the comma is like you're a bad actor so like that was how david mamet came into my life then i was like oh he's an epo daughter then i moved on okay so he came out with a new book recently and it entered my worldview because it's like kind of memoir ish and it it's called uh everywhere in oink oink and the tagline is like how everyone in hollywood is a fucking pig like oink oink like and it's like how everyone is like not creative and how they ruined his projects and how like everyone in a suit is pig and i was like i would fucking love to read that so i get this book being like this is gonna this is gonna be a book i'd like to read him shit So I get this book being like, this is going to be a book.
Starting point is 00:19:05 I'd like to read him shitting on people. That sounds fun. Yeah, it sounds like one of those William Goldman memoirs where he just spills and is like, here's why this movie sucks. And he's right half the time in a way where you're like,
Starting point is 00:19:19 oh shit, that's crazy content. That is good. That is what I expected. So impossible to understand even a single sentence. I think the second sentence is like diversity and equity initiatives have ruined Hollywood. Yes. He's full MAGA. Like paragraph one is like, and Trump was pretty good.
Starting point is 00:19:37 Then I'm like, okay, but let's get, I'm going to try page two. You can't understand anything. He's choosing high words. He's not using, it's ineligible i go on goodreads the famous david mamet at that point had four goodreads reviews when you're famous you should at least get 100 trolls yeah all four goodreads reviews are like i i this is not even a book now he's an accident was this a mistake no no he's like it's exactly what you said where it's like i guess 20 years
Starting point is 00:20:05 ago we were like isn't he so smart and now we've all grown up and we're like oh he's the dumbest man alive and he's on a full maga tour telling people that diversity and equity initiatives have ruined hollywood and so anyways i just in case anyone out there didn't know that david mamet is a full-on piece of oink oink himself. Mega. Wow. I wanted y'all to know. That's amazing. Yeah. He was like liberal toast to the town. And now he's MAGA.
Starting point is 00:20:31 Yeah. MAGA, MAGA. Him and the science guys are like kind of getting together and being like, this is a real problem. Some would say the real problem. Diversity in Hollywood is a disaster. Yeah only one disaster yeah oh yeah now people can't be funny even though my daughter was on a huge tv show diversity and equity initiatives are blocking her next fame yeah oh she was she was good in madam webb i will say just kidding i can't believe you saw that i i will say this one of my top cinema
Starting point is 00:21:08 experiences of last of this year whatever year it was out it was really fun i'll just do the spoiler now which is clearly off of that that like the virality of that insane line from the trailer they cut it in the actual cut of the film and it is like the biggest tease the whole theater went nuts when they don't finish the line it's amazing wait what's the line because i actively tried to hide from any madam oh my gosh um it's something about like this is the villain whatever his name is he i he was researching spiders in the Amazon with my mother when she died. Right before she died. Right before she died.
Starting point is 00:21:49 And they say three quarters of the line and then it just cuts. Like clearly post-trailer they cut it. Or maybe the line was cobbled together for the trailer. But it was like everyone in the theater was like mouthing the words along and then it stops and it was just like play the hits yeah everyone's losing their minds it's so fun to see in a theater he was in the amazon with my mom when she was researching spiders just before she died now you guys are both writers like sometimes you need to get exposition out and like just get it out there you know yeah that's what i call a studio no and whenever you're like watching tv and you're like why did that happen it's almost
Starting point is 00:22:31 always because they have to say something and if you don't know how to do the creative part you only know how to do the logical part so they'll give notes of like but how and why is she there i have really had a big question of that and i love that the writer was like he's there because the amazon and she died just before the spiders okay fuck you yeah i i literally have had lines in scripts that i i've like marked on my side of final draft as like this is just to get it past you know the the execs and then there are times when they've almost made it to air or whatever i'm just like no no no no no i was just giving what you want to show you how dumb you were oh no oh no no no oh no oh no yeah wow they're like that line now that is really the that's the one
Starting point is 00:23:20 that we're gonna want to put in the fucking trailer like yeah in this case like it's wonderful highly recommend linchpin that was yeah i had no idea sydney sweeney was in that movie i had like she was like having a massive moment but like they don't even like put her in the trailer yeah it was and why did dakota johnson say yes she is such a get in hollywood like there's so few young stars that will greenlight a movie, get a movie greenlit for your budget. I imagine she could have had any Marvel character, any
Starting point is 00:23:52 non-Sony Marvel project, any movie, well, even just not that movie. How did they get her? Why did she say yes? Just the vibe. I think she was basically told, you're going to be Spider-Man. This is to be Spider-Man. This is identical to Spider-Man.
Starting point is 00:24:09 Why are we speculating this? I don't know. Listen, between you have to re-watch Madam Web or you have to watch all 350 Shades of Grey. What do you do? I told you, I love Madam Web. It's fucking great. And are you disappointed that the saga of Madam Web will not be continuing for us?
Starting point is 00:24:31 I like, you know, now it's all headcanon. Now she's just wearing like red Oakleys in the whole universe of my brain and it's wonderful. All right, let's take a quick break and we'll come back and cover some news. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films
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Starting point is 00:26:51 podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really near them. Why is that? Just come here and play basketball every single day, and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is unapologetically black.
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Starting point is 00:27:50 The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. And we're back. And as we were talking about up top top one of the geniuses of the dollop is that we're hearing these stories that are so outrageous they seem like everyone should know them like they should be in our history books or at least have like a couple movies made about them at this point that's one of the persistent thoughts in my head when i'm listening to adopt is like how did i not know this i think gareth you say that pretty frequently but unfortunately the fact that they're not well known in some cases seems like one of the reasons some of these trends that we're about to talk about never really go away because we there's like
Starting point is 00:28:45 certain things that we just memory whole as a as a at least as a country i don't want to speak for the whole species but we're just like yeah now that never happened that's too right that's that's too entertaining so yeah we wanted to kind of highlight some of these trends or details from past dollop episodes that we keep seeing turn up in our show about the modern zeitgeist and get you guys thoughts. Yeah, because I think it's not so much like they're trends, right? Because it's not like racism isn't like a trend. Right. So it's a sort of like these constants issues yeah that we like can never grapple with and somehow like are besting ourselves from three centuries ago we're like oh you want to
Starting point is 00:29:31 see racism cut to uh late 70s boston or some shit yeah yeah oh okay that was i thought we got past that phase but i think that's like the interesting reminder is how how little we've actually come you know like how like how slow progress is because you have these reminders of like for as much as we want to especially in america be like no we live in like a post-racial uh you know like more equitable society like no no no no no no yeah the freaks are still out in fucking full force we just don't we just ignore them now yeah yeah well we ignore them we give them more power yeah yeah that's kind of what it is is like we've never really been able to bat in the hatch for a
Starting point is 00:30:11 long time it's like you have those swings where you're like holy shit you know we gotta like women need a choice you know you get whatever it is the the litany of things that we were like right yeah now we're good with that but there's always that force that's always like i'm still coming motherfucker yeah yeah yeah like let me regroup yeah yeah they do speaking of the phrase how little we've come and i'm coming motherfucker i i want to just start with a light one which is you've covered it like from the early days of the serial guys episode about like kellogg's and graham and post and how focused they were on keeping people from jacking off to the recent episode that i'm drawing gana waltz waltzka is that gana walska yeah yeah where you covered a Hall of Fame side character who had a contraption designed to keep himself from jacking off.
Starting point is 00:31:09 On our side, we saw this with the Speaker of the House recently, where, I don't know if this one's worse, it's definitely more convoluted. It's kind of weirder because it involves family. Yes, yes. So we're talking about Speaker of the House Mike Johnson, who currently, as far as we know, has software on his phone that sends his son a report if he jacks off to pornography. Like his son will get, will be told about that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:44 That's just like father-son bonding. That's right. Right. Yeah. Hearing him. That's just like father, son bonding. That's right. Right. We're get it. We get it, Dave. We're,
Starting point is 00:31:50 we're parents, you know, we, we, yeah, you guys understand like my kid's 14. So I get like 19 alerts a day. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:59 Hearing him describe it to a panel of other like evangelicals is really weird. Like so proud yeah he talks about how he first heard it during like a gathering of like the promise keepers which is like an evangelical like men's group and he's like and i was like the early 2000s and i was like and i'm not even endorsing it i don't even make money but i'm like i endorse it because i use it but this is him explaining in his own way how how this works. Above my head how it works, but it scans. You obviously opt into it, but it scans all the activity on your phone or your devices, your laptop, tablet, what have you. We do all of it.
Starting point is 00:32:34 And then it sends a report to your accountability partner. So my accountability partner right now is Jack, my son, right? And so he's 17. Of course his name is Jack. So he and I get a report of all the things that are on our phones or all of our devices once a week. If anything, your accountability partner gets an immediate notice. I'm proud to tell you my son has got a clean slate, all right? But we get a report and it says, hey, no activity of concern. And it's really, really sensitive.
Starting point is 00:33:02 It'll pick up almost anything. It looks for search terms and also images and it will send your accountability partner a blurred a picture of the image and so on occasion i get one i was just looking at the one from this week i got on on jack and it said this this is the only one that may be questionable and it's this blurred image of two two women talking in a live screen thing and i zoom in i have to unblur it and it's in this two middle-aged teachers. Okay, cool. Then the technology actually fucking sucks. If it's looking at two teachers talking and it's like
Starting point is 00:33:32 porn! He didn't say what they were doing. It could have been scissoring. Teachers are a genre. Middle-aged teachers. He would never know that. And then I saw the image and then I had jacked off to it. And then so I sent Jack a message. Me and my son are jerking off together in different rooms.
Starting point is 00:33:52 That's what the technology is for. Yeah. I'm glad he's taken, you know, him and his mother and I, we split. And I got remarried. And he actually seems really close with his stepmother, at least based on what I'm seeing on all these searches. She walked in on him the other day. Yeah, exactly, and decided to teach him
Starting point is 00:34:11 how to actually jerk off, so then it sent me an image of that. I wonder how his son has figured out to get around the technology to be able to watch porn, because you know he has. It's just so fucking
Starting point is 00:34:26 dumb. Clean reports. It's the dumbest shit in the world because it's like it is. It's just like, look, first of all, just let the kid jack off. He's not into this like you. He wants to jack off. Let him figure it out.
Starting point is 00:34:41 Before phones, I was able to find naked fucking pictures. You know what I mean? Yeah. There are ways. Ripped like physical ripped out pages from magazines that like held on to like they were the Dead Sea Scrolls. And you're like, oh, man, that's all I got. But like also you could get a burner phone, I'd imagine.
Starting point is 00:35:01 Yeah. You could just get a burner phone if he has to jerk off mobily or whatever or use his friend's computer, go to the library like adults do. What would be awesome if your dad was like, hey, man, I want to set this up and you'll be my accountability partner. And then you just start just constantly jerking off until he's like, okay, I don't want to be here. This is really disturbing, man.
Starting point is 00:35:23 All right. You wanted to see what's up? What's going on in this part of town, man? Here it is. I'm having a real asshole rena disturbing, man. All right. You wanted to see what's up? What's going on in this part of town, man? Here it is. I'm having a real asshole renaissance, dad. But this is, yeah, I mean, this is persistent across. I'm sure I'm missing some, but like the guy who created like ankle harnesses that would keep his hands on his ankles. Right.
Starting point is 00:35:48 Yeah. There's entire like there's the, oh God, what was the sanatorium in Michigan called? Yeah. The Kellogg one. Battle Creek. Yeah. Like that place was just a myriad of like ways not to jerk off. Like there were just, there's just been there's
Starting point is 00:36:05 been tons of these right history of people just like how can we not do this and it all comes out like you said this is from the um the religious uh promise keepers which we did an episode on but it all comes out of that because it's just them talking to each other and they don't realize everyone else is like no that's crazy but they're just in their little group and they're like, yeah, we shouldn't be jerking off. Right. And everyone else is like, no, it's good. What's so great about the male body is that if you don't jerk it off in your sleep, it will fucking jerk you off. Like, you can't get away from it.
Starting point is 00:36:39 Like, you can't tell me that's not part of God's plan. If I go to sleep and my penis is like, we're going to ejaculate. Like, what is the line here? i touch it it's wrong like my brain is jacking my dick off at night right yeah yeah back to those preppers who are trying to figure out if the gas and the drums is still good it's like now man you got to get rid of that and refill yeah get it out use it yeah get it out man refresh refresh exercise holy, refresh. Holy shit. Yeah. It's just like, was that machine, though? Like, I know you were calling it the Hankel machine, I think, Gareth, in the show. But, like, was that, like, an articulated device, like, that we knew what it was? Or is that some custom work?
Starting point is 00:37:17 No, I think really he just had a thing that he could clamp his hands to his ankles. Right. Sort of like a cuff. Yeah, he his hands to his ankles. Right. So he, yeah, he was like, so he must've slept like bent over, like in a really painful, terrible position.
Starting point is 00:37:32 And yeah, I'm sure he had a horrible back aches, but, uh, but yeah, so it was like a clamping your like shackles. Yeah. Jackals.
Starting point is 00:37:42 Yeah. Wackles. Right. And of course, probably people who just wanted to jag off more than anybody else and assumed everybody else was struggling with this same issue. Yeah, right. Always. So, yeah, yeah. issue and so yeah yeah but yeah i mean and it is like the fact that it's how we got like so much breakfast cereal in an indirect way graham crackers is just like i don't know we we let
Starting point is 00:38:15 we let ourselves remember puritanism because you know people like trying to be puritanical about sex and you know stuff like that but i think there's just like something so inherently embarrassing about about people just being like get stop jacking off over here like let's bring you with water yeah spray you with cold water that yeah i think it just gets memory the graham cracker thing and the grape nuts thing is just crazy like they really thought of food would stop them from jerking off. Like, yeah,
Starting point is 00:38:46 it didn't work. Yeah. Obviously there was no, like they keep eating him and everyone's like, no, I'm still hard as a rock. You know, how about they all like,
Starting point is 00:38:56 you know, the fact that he needs a fucking app to like, it really is. It's, it's so, I never know what that line is because it's like well you have the compulsion to do it why is where's the line on what you know god has created and what is your own sinful way like right you're created shouldn't you shouldn't you just not want to jack off
Starting point is 00:39:20 like yeah but that's how we're tested we're tested with sin you know yeah it's like such a weird bizarre flesh video game i guess yeah well because it's also just like at the end of the day like whether it's puritans or cereal makers or mike johnson it's like this weird denial of humanity that's like yeah you guys are keep you're just going to the next thing so back at those times you're like i need leather straps and then the thing was like, what if we ate these fucking crackers? And it's like, no. And now it's like, an app? I don't know. Anything but acknowledging the humanity of it.
Starting point is 00:39:50 And if they would just be like, look, if we don't jack off, there's more problems in the streets. Period. I think for a lot of these guys, though, it's more about what they actually what turns them on. They get in there and they're like, well, hold on, this dick and balls is kind of nice.
Starting point is 00:40:08 And then they start to dig out. No, they legislate against gay marriage and all that stuff. I mean, if you really think about, like, the Republican Party, the leader of it was a pedophile, like, in the 2000s. And, you know, it was just like like a confirmed confirmed
Starting point is 00:40:28 fucking pedophile convicted and we don't ever look back on that like hey maybe these people protest too much you know yeah right yeah right we're just like wow that's our kids yeah well that sucks all right anyway we have an app now where your son knows you're not beating off yeah all right all right let's move on to this this was one that we noticed recently with the caitlin clark first press conference oh god where she she'd just been drafted number one wmba had either recently or was about to sign a massive like lebron james sized deal with nike or not lebron james size but you know a massive deal and she had her first press conference at her new team in indiana and like one of the journalists was like flirty with her was like oh yeah i like you you keep doing that we're gonna get along just fine
Starting point is 00:41:26 and everyone's like fucking gross man it's like the heart symbol i do to my family after the game yeah yeah we do that's fine yeah i like how he laughed though too and you could tell like the like based on how the mic was you could tell he's like turning like his head for laughs like right a woman with a sporting instrument yeah yeah i mean there's also the women's world cup player getting like a forced celebration kiss from one of their coaches oh yeah spain like then they had to resign but i was you know re-listening to the Boston Marathon episode that you guys did about the first women to run the Boston Marathon. And, you know, the first woman kind of does it in secret. And then the second woman, like kind of people catch on
Starting point is 00:42:18 pretty early and it becomes this massive real world reenactment of Mad Max Fury Road, where there's this guy who's just chasing her around the 26 mile course, like in a bus, like trying to take her out and try to tackle her. Yeah. But after she's successfully completed it, there's this quote from a race official who's like, we need rules basically if that girl was my daughter i'd spank her and again like just wildly embarrassing like but like almost certainly said with at least three quarters of an erection you know like just what what what are you talking about yeah but it i don't know it just feels like this is a consistent trend that we see where specifically in the, on the field of play, like that is where men like really just like put their foot down and they're like, nope, no, that not, not on my watch. We cannot have impressive athletic feats.
Starting point is 00:43:24 We must find a way to sexualize and diminish you. Right. Or just like reset that to be like, and I'm the man and I'm get to say this shit to you, even though you may be one of the greatest basketball players of all time. But anyway, you want to make me happy. It's very weird in a country that like claims that capitalism is going to show you, you know know let capitalism rule and all that we're also like it shows the fragility of the male ego to be like but not that because she's a woman but that's been going on like we did another episode it wasn't about sports but it's about women wearing pants and running oh and like you know they were like before they were like it's just always been
Starting point is 00:44:01 something it's like you can't you're if it literally they were like, it's just always been something. It's like, you can't, you're if it literally, they were like, if women run, they're like, uteruses will drop out. Yeah. Like there's no connection to reality. That's not really necessary. It's always just like, you know, we're doing this for your own good, sweetheart. Right. Yeah. But, but yeah, the way that like a reporter feels comfortable talking to a woman. I mean, it is shocking. I mean, I guess at least we're shocked by it and we're not. And it's not like a bunch of guys smoking cigarettes. Be like, go on a date with her, lady. Come on.
Starting point is 00:44:35 Go on. Come on, to date the man. He made the heart symbol. Yeah. He's married. He's only 40 years older. He's got wisdom. But it's totally a theme totally yeah in this country it's wild though too i was like just thinking about the oops my uterus fell
Starting point is 00:44:53 out kind of like myth that persists in like sports and there's an example in 2010 this guy jan franco casper who was the head of the International Ski Federation, like doubled down on a thing he said in 2005. They're like, now, what were you saying about ski jumping and women? And basically was saying, like, it's not appropriate for ladies from a medical point of view, because, again, the impacts could be so jarring that the uterus is dislodged. And that's like you could say, but like you could very easily be like, a man could rupture his scrotum. You know what I mean? A guy could ruin his balls skiing too.
Starting point is 00:45:30 Right. Yeah. I mean, I guess anything can happen. That shows like the sort of patriarchal nature of being like, well, I'm looking out for your one value that you have to society, which is to reproduce.
Starting point is 00:45:40 And if I don't do that, then I failed as a protector or controller. I don't know know it's up to you how you want to describe that yeah immediately imagine a scenario where she's your daughter you fucking creep yeah yeah i wouldn't let her ski yeah exactly all right let's let's take a quick break we'll come right back we got a couple more trends to hit. We'll be right back. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive
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Starting point is 00:49:18 And yeah, so Dave & Buster's introducing more gambling to Dave & Buster's place that is an arcade for children presumably. I mean, I guess there's always like some adults there. Well, there's a bar and shit. Yeah, there's a big bar in middle. Dave and Buster's, yeah. They won't be like sticking a roulette table between skee-ball machines, but they
Starting point is 00:49:39 will be allowing social wagering on games played between people oh shit, over 18. So I can't We'll be allowing social wagering on games played between people. Oh, shit. Over 18. So I can't. Yeah, you can't take a kid. But you can. I can take their parents' money.
Starting point is 00:49:54 Get the parents to co-sign. Proxy. It's a proxy bet. It's a proxy bet. Hey, man, go get your mom's phone. Go get your old man over here, man. We'll have some real fun. You have to do it through their DMV rewards app. Uh-huh. Hey, man, go get your mom's phone. Go get your old man over here, man. We'll have some real fun.
Starting point is 00:50:08 You have to do it through their DMV Rewards app. Which, why do you need an app to make bets with friends instead of just handing someone cash and like shaking hands with them and being like, all right. The old ways where you'd be like, I bet I could beat you in a skeeball. Oh, yeah, put five on it. All right, yeah. The old ways where you'd be like, I bet I could beat you in a skeeball. Oh yeah, put five on it.
Starting point is 00:50:27 All right, put it up. But now we need an app. I guess the issue is nobody has cash anymore, ever. We got Venmo.
Starting point is 00:50:34 Shit, I just fucking bet people about the fucking Arsenal game on Sunday, light wagers. But still, just do it on Venmo. Allegedly.
Starting point is 00:50:43 They aren't arched on Venmo. So I've never been to a dave and busters i i had no idea what was i thought it was an arcade for adults initially but it's a bar so like theoretically if you got your kids and you're like you know what i hate being a parent you could just be like i'm gonna go in here get trashed while my kid plays in a ball pit is that kind of like the idea? Yeah, or it's like... Video games. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:07 I did literally exactly what you just described about a week and a half ago. Not because you hate being a parent. You love being a parent. But sometimes you need a break. Sometimes you need a break. I think that's fair. Ordered some boneless wings. They have pretty good boneless wings there.
Starting point is 00:51:24 And watched my kids play Rampage for an hour and a half. Oh, the old school arcade game where you're like the mutant animals like fucking up the buildings and shit? Yeah, yeah. Yeah. I remember that's like the Rock movie that came out. And I was like, oh, you're just using the characters and trying to shoehorn the Rock into something again. Thanks. There was a Lakers game on.
Starting point is 00:51:44 There was Rampage. My kids playing Ramp Thanks. There was a Lakers game on. There was Rampage. My kid's playing Rampage. There was a celebrity there for some reason. And yeah. I'm changing my whole position on Dave & Buster's immediately then. I think maybe Dave & Buster's is the third space our society has been sorely lacking. And I think we should just have a Dave & Buster's on every corner. This is actually making me under, this is actually a pro family environment.
Starting point is 00:52:06 And I think we need more places where you can bring your kids and drink and gamble simultaneously all across the United States. You hear that Vegas? We need a mini Vegas on every corner. I like it. Exactly. We need, people need relief,
Starting point is 00:52:20 man. So just let their kids go fight over how many tickets are going to come out of the little coin pusher game that every, you always many tickets are going to come out of the little coin pusher game that every you always think you're going to win yeah everything's a racket but yeah like now they're definitely like making themselves to be like hey man it's also like it's it's a fun place to have a date like you can eat and you can play get the eat and play combo and yeah that's yeah that's like their new their new like i want to say I'm above that, but also I go to Barcade.
Starting point is 00:52:47 I think really this is just selling me on Dave & Buster's, and I think I need to become a Dave & Buster's person. Barcade has a distinctly different vibe than Dave & Buster's. You will go to Dave & Buster's and you're like, I'm in consumer hell. It's a lot of birthday parties.
Starting point is 00:53:04 It's already just pulsating with anxiety and the screams of children where you can't tell if they're delighted screams or just someone's being taken. So my 38th birthday, that's where I'm doing it. Yeah, do a takeover with adults.
Starting point is 00:53:20 Do that thing where, like, you ever been to an arcade as a kid and a bunch of adults come in and you're like, they shouldn't be here this is like our kid space yeah and you like the vibe shifts just do that the dave and buster one of my kids birthday parties that we had at an arcade it was like all their friends from kindergarten and then a guy with like a leather duster and one leather glove on his hand who was just just there like playing this one, one video game over and over and over again. It was just like a professional. He's just like,
Starting point is 00:53:50 all right, like got there early with his cup of coffee and just went to work. I am now humiliated to discover. I've probably been this leather jacket, one glove man at various points in my life, especially the Santa Cruz beach boardwalk Ms. Pac-Man machine. Oh, yeah. There you go.
Starting point is 00:54:08 An unhealthy obsession with that thing for a while. Lovely boardwalk, though, got to say. Beautiful. Yeah. So this is part of a boom in betting that they've found increases engagement among sports fans. Digital gamification could have a similar effect within Dave & Buster's customer base. But the amount of money they're making, let me find the exact figure. So U.S. commercial gaming revenue, which includes sports betting, online gambling, slots, and
Starting point is 00:54:36 table games, reached $49.9 billion in the first 10 months of 2022, up 14.7% from the same period in 2021. So year-over-year revenue reached an all-time high in 2022. So they're just, like, all that legal betting, the fact that there's, like, gambling commercials on TV during, like, sporting events, like, is working, which makes sense. Like, of course it is.
Starting point is 00:55:03 Yeah, it's interesting. this company that's doing it is called Lucra. Lucra, bro. Because it's Lucra. Tiv. Miles, drop the Tiv. It's clean. Hey, what about Tiv, man?
Starting point is 00:55:18 No, man. It's Lucra. Alright, alright. I still think Tiv is a pretty cool name. But yeah, started by two former Goldman Sachs guys. Yeah. And they're just like, but again, like this is like what's really infuriating about it. Like with one hand, like sports betting, you understand how that works. Where this one, it's like, what exactly is the service you're providing?
Starting point is 00:55:39 We're careful not to use the term bet or wager. We are because that makes us subject to licenses and regulations gambling. So what are you? We merely facilitate real money contests or challenges. Oh, those are my favorite things. Real money contests or challenges. Yeah. Yeah, I love that.
Starting point is 00:56:02 Yeah. That's perfect. I love doing that. And I love doing it on an app that ostensibly takes a fee for doing it. Yeah. Or challenge. Yeah, I love that. Yeah. That's perfect. I love doing that. And I love doing it on an app that ostensibly takes a fee for doing it. Yes. What is their cut on this? How much are they? 5%.
Starting point is 00:56:13 5%? Of every winning winner. Like, when somebody wins, they lose 5% on it. And it's all just, again, could be replaced with a brief conversation and a handshake but instead people get to use this social media app it just feels like super clunky though too you know you know what i mean like because the way already if you're like a degenerate and you already like trying to find action on like anything like you're like what about skeeball dude you want to fucking do you want to gamble on that like you're not gonna be like all right sign into lucra all right now find me
Starting point is 00:56:48 all right oh oh there's another person miles gray all right here let me get my qr code yeah okay like a grinder for people with gambling problems you know yeah but also like who around me would be willing to wager on whether this coin comes up heads three times in a row right it's just like a weird i i get like on paper why they think this is like the wave but i also just feel like we always talk about frictionless transactions this is introducing way too much friction into just like uh people social wagering or doing real life money challenges over fucking the hoop hot shot hoops game yeah yeah the the app has like push-ups can jam bar games board games fitness so you can like nba 2k is like the top trending game oh what was the second one you read can jam what is that
Starting point is 00:57:44 it's this thing where you have cans and you're trying to throw a frisbee into a slot. It's like part of this new generation of games people have just invented, but then everyone's like, oh, hell yeah. Dude, I fucking love Can Jam. Oh, hell yeah. I love Can Jam.
Starting point is 00:58:00 Yeah. It's just like carnival games. Okay, yeah. This kind of reminds me of when everybody was really into like um disc golf yeah like frisbee golf and you're like what is and it was so popular for like a year and then just still popular is it popular yeah yeah yeah yeah there's like a like a frall frisbee golf spot near like this part i go to the town and there are people do there's people there every fucking like on the weekends in the morning like it's like we're gonna get can jam courses soon yeah i mean it's in our parks yeah it is kind of fun because you can like for like smash the
Starting point is 00:58:37 and it's just a frisbee game that you can just do low stakes it It's easy to understand. We love a new backyard game in this country. I just got fucking cleaned out on Candyland, you guys. On Lucra, bro? Yeah, Lucra. I owe my next three paychecks because I just got on a
Starting point is 00:59:00 real bad run where I kept drawing that ice cream cone one even though I was like right at the end so it just kept taking me back there yeah that's why I only do chutes and ladders man so I got my lambo you're one of the greats pushing that lambo because it shoots and ladders bro people people said it couldn't be done man and anyway just so just for all the listeners you can take my course I'm offering right now on Instagram I'll show you the secrets on how to use lucra so you could also have a lambo. I was actually just wondering. Yeah. Yeah. If you had some sort of
Starting point is 00:59:30 online course, I could spend roughly $199 on for like a 30 minute YouTube video. So I'm so glad to know. I'm so glad you asked. Climbing the parentheses shoots and parentheses ladder to success. Exactly. But I'm glad you asked. Actually, I'm not one of these people who's trying to gouge people for some kind of like, you know, impersonal scam thing. Like you said, $199?
Starting point is 00:59:55 No way. For $99. What? That's a great deal. I should probably sign up now. Yeah. $99, you will get a link to a TikTok playlist of some videos I just kind of threw together. What a deal.
Starting point is 01:00:08 But it's exclusive videos. I'm going to have my own Lambo by next week. Oh, you will. You will. Can't wait. Can't wait. I'm going to have to pull you into the- Can't wait to gamble in a Dave and Buster's.
Starting point is 01:00:19 Are you good at any video games? Do you think there is something you feel confident enough? You're like, yo, I'll put 20 on that. I mean, yeah, but they're all outdated games like the games i'm really good at was stuff you played like on nintendo in the 80s you know duck hunt so the duck hunt great the one game though that it's like i'm so good at it it stopped being cool and became embarrassing is mario kart like oh you can tell people socially sometimes people would be like oh haha you have a Switch. Do you want to play Mario Kart?
Starting point is 01:00:48 And it's so bad, I have to do like a preamble. I have to be like, okay, we could play Mario Kart, but there's some things you got to know. It's not going to be fun for you, number one. Number two, I can handicap myself in the game to make it fun for you. It's so embarrassing. and the worst part is people like oh haha cool you're good and then you play and then it reaches this awkward moment where i'm
Starting point is 01:01:11 just like destroyed everyone and i have to sit there and wait for them to finish and it's like not cool it's like kind of pathetic everyone looks at you like i can tell you did this for many hours in lieu of forming real bonds with human beings. Have you played the arcade version of Mario Kart? No, my God, I'm afraid. They have a full sit down with a steering wheel. It's like really fun. Anyway, so what do you want to do? I'm going to be doing that.
Starting point is 01:01:37 A hundred bucks? I'm going to be cleaning up. Yeah, let's go. Who do you race with? Who do you race with? What character do you race with? Oh, what character? Well, you got to go with the midway characters. So if you play on the switch you can play with yourself with your me
Starting point is 01:01:48 because it's a midway yeah yeah yeah yeah but otherwise yeah you want to stick to like mario's a mid-weight character you know yeah i got the whole because so embarrassed god it's humiliating i have the whole build i do on the vehicle for perfect balance like it's like it's real embarrassing this yeah but that's the thing certain things it's like when you go to karaoke and you watch someone and they're like so good at karaoke it starts to get a little depressing you're like right oh you should have done this with your life yeah this is important to you you're good at it like things could have gone differently for you but like yeah you work in accounting you know right like it's like that it's at a certain point you're so good at things that it's just kind of
Starting point is 01:02:29 sad and the ad is unfortunately me with mario kart their whole demeanor changes as they sing the first lines of i will always love you yeah they're like oh my god okay oh no no get out of here yeah like the the people are coming in crying they're like you're not even part of this party but that i the thing with mario kart it's so funny like i was playing with my nieces and nephews who are like just get like they have a switch and like i'm really good at mario kart and i i did the opposite of you i said oh okay i haven't played in a minute and i'm like you stupid stupid stupid young child. I got you right where I want you.
Starting point is 01:03:08 And the first time I did the boost on them, like off the starting line, they were like, what? And I'm like, I've been down since 1992. Don't even attempt to get with me. The boost is how you time it with the. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's all margins, baby.
Starting point is 01:03:28 When you're racing, learn that from Formula One, you know? And yeah, I like that. I fuck with Luigi. If you're not drifting, you're not winning. That's just how it goes. So drifting is a part of it because I thought I was pretty good by the time I was done playing N64 Mario Kart for a while. So drifting is a part of it because I thought I was pretty good by the time I was done playing N64 Mario Kart for a while.
Starting point is 01:03:48 So drifting, do the boost. I think I know those two tricks. Anything else that I should know? You want your build to be really solid. You want to go with a mid-weight driver, a mid-weight vehicle, and then you want to do a heavyweight tire and a lightweight. They have this umbrella thing attached. I don't really understand the function of the umbrella if i'm being perfectly honest but yeah i have found this is the ultimate
Starting point is 01:04:09 build and again this is very this is not making me look cool at all this is one of those things where it's like you're too invested in this for a person of your age we all we all have that like i have video games too where i'm like putting hours of my life away and my partner her majesty she'll be like what are you doing like i gotta get all the characters to look the right way she's like have you played yet i'm like no i can't until they look right but yeah i mean that's fair i think that's that's real yeah look you know games are important to people in different ways so who am i to judge especially with a game like mario kart where i'm i always like to it's always interesting to see the people who are like no i i get down with the cart so yeah all right
Starting point is 01:04:55 all right got some ideas for next time you're on so i yeah and i do have some money making opportunities awaiting me at dave and busters which which is good to know. You could, actually. The games that you can play for tickets have a certain number of lights, a certain color of lights around them at the Dave & Buster's that I was going to. And my kids played the ones that you couldn't win tickets on. And it was hugely disappointing to everybody involved. So there's a little pro tip for you.
Starting point is 01:05:26 By the way, uh like experts are saying that america's gambling problem exacerbated by like the convenience of apps is a ticking time bomb and yeah i'm sure i'm sure it'll be fine but oh yeah dude i love that song from rancid like 49..9 billion is so many lost bets. That's like such a massive, like that's all it is. That's all money being made off of people losing bets. Right. Same thing as like when you think of like a crypto millionaire too. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:00 Right, right, right, right. That's where the money came from. It's definitely a sign that an economy is going really, really well, I think. Just a society in general. Yeah, like daddy's going up. I think that's good. And you have to win the lottery to be like, and now I can treat my illnesses. Yes, exactly. Yeah. Speaking of which, one of the big Powerball winners is a cancer patient. So it was a 1.3 billion Powerball jackpot.
Starting point is 01:06:28 is a cancer patient. So it was a $1.3 billion Powerball jackpot. And an immigrant from Laos was the big winner, is taking a lump sum of $422 million after taxes, splitting it with a friend, and claimed that he wants to now, quote, find a good doctor with the money. Despite media reports that this is a heartwarming story, winning the Powerball jackpot should in no way be a prerequisite for accessing life-saving healthcare. But it's like one of those things where it's like teachers are buying their own or like this, this millionaire like noticed that his kids public school didn't have books. So he bought it.
Starting point is 01:07:03 Isn't that cool? Isn't that heartwarming? Yeah guess yeah wow such an american story it really is especially considering that the person immigrated from laos which is like the most heavily bombed country on the planet thanks to the united states so it's like okay we destroyed your country come over here right win the lottery to get access to life-saving care it's just like this and who knows what kind of chemicals you may have been exposed to in laos like if you're born there because there's still just a fuck ton of unexploded munitions just littered everywhere because they're just like yeah fuck it man just dump it in laos keep it moving yeah and people are still
Starting point is 01:07:40 finding them to this day yeah it's really it's just like here's a horror here's a horror here's exactly back to back compounding horrors wow i mean but it is sad that the like feel-good story thing kind of works on you right because i was like oh my first instinct like well at least a cancer patient won the money and you're like god this is so bleak yeah right and it's like you know how many other people have cancer and are currently trying to treat it and are probably in a similar situation. It's like, that's where you're just like horrified. And I think anyone who's had an intersected with cancer and their family or lives just knows how like just fucking awful like it is and how destructive it is like at every level, emotionally,
Starting point is 01:08:20 physically, everything. And you're like, yeah. And like, just to think that the relief that this person experienced in the midst of all that is like, well, I won 422 million. So now I can have a good doctor. Like, we're going to buy an island. It's like, I want medical care. Yeah. These are the small wins we get in America. At least it wasn't like a hedge fund billionaire who won the jackpot.
Starting point is 01:08:44 He's like, I found a system for buying up all the tickets. Right. Yeah. It's like for $15,000, you're guaranteed to net 30 at least. All right. That's going to do it for this week's weekly Zeitgeist. Please like and review the show if you like the show. It means the world to Miles.
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