The Daily Zeitgeist - Weekly Zeitgeist 332 (Best of 7/29/24-8/2/24)

Episode Date: August 4, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me for I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and Shekinah Church. Listen to Forgive Me for I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:00:30 I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese.
Starting point is 00:00:39 Every great player needs a foil. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have
Starting point is 00:00:46 changed the way we consume women's sports. Listen to the making of a rivalry Caitlin Clark versus Angel Reese on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast or wherever you get your podcast. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. Hey, I'm Gianna Pardenti
Starting point is 00:01:02 and I'm Jermaine Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. There's a lot to figure out when you're just starting your career. That's where we come in. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in people who do, like negotiation expert Maury Tahiripour. If you start thinking about negotiations as just a conversation,
Starting point is 00:01:22 then I think it sort of eases us a little bit. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hello, the internet, and welcome to this episode of the Weekly Zeitgeist. These are some of our favorite segments from this week, all edited together into one non-stop infotainment laugh-stravaganza. Yeah, so without further ado, here is the weekly zeitgeist. Miles, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by one of the best to do it. Hilarious and brilliant stand-up comedian, writer, actor, improviser. You can catch her on stages across the country.
Starting point is 00:02:08 You can catch her at the Facial Recognition Comedy Show monthly. It's Pallavi Gunali! Pallavi! Oh my goodness, look it's me, sitting on a couch doing nothing. Take that, J.D. Vance, huh? Wow. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:21 Discipline. That's called self-control. Hey look, we all want to fuck a couch all right we control ourselves you freak this is like um what who who is the guy uh fuck i forget his name one of the who was just like like gay people like everybody's tempted to do it you have to not do it yeah we are all thinking about it constantly yeah but we hold it back right hold it back and use a series of apps we're all white knuckling our way through fucking ikea okay they're like you know you can build them any way you want at home they can be real
Starting point is 00:03:00 like what let me show you this thing in my basement and it's like George Clooney and burn after reading it's fucking insane that an election can be influenced by a shit poster like I love it so much the whole time we were like man misinformation is really gonna fuck this election up and the
Starting point is 00:03:19 most hard hitting piece of misinformation was this guy fucks a couch yeah I'm like saluting The most hard-hitting piece of misinformation was, this guy fucks a couch. Yeah. Yeah, I'm like saluting. I love America. I love democracy. I've never been more patriotic than with this JD Vance couch. How low the bar is.
Starting point is 00:03:37 Yeah. I know. I know. How have you been, Pallavi? I've been good. I've been good. It's great to have you back. Been a weird week for so many reasons.
Starting point is 00:03:44 Excited to talk about what's going on excited to bring my people and miles's people together you know what i mean yeah enough enough fighting you know we both can be represented by kamala's you know pro israel that's right yeah i'm japanese today actually oh okay oh okay got it i'm so sorry and you do have to pick one so we just you know before we start recording we make sure everybody just gets on the record and states what they are today what's your race very long time and he's always been black to me today he's Japanese
Starting point is 00:04:25 I didn't know folks I thought he was one of those anime blacks that's what he was speaking Japanese so well he's one of these otaku types he's like anamorphic into different races have you seen all the fucking black and white Michael Jackson memes people have been playing they're like this is what she thinks
Starting point is 00:04:41 because there is that one scene where it goes from like this South Indian woman to like like, Isaiah Thomas. Oh, yeah. Or, like, people have been posting, like, Sammy Sosa and stuff, too, of, like, changing races. God, that morph technology really had a moment there in the early 90s. The black and white video and Terminator 2, I feel like they came out at the same, like, the same summer. Dude, it was, I remember it was a huge thing for like artists too. Cause my dad at the time, I remember he was working on like these digital art pieces and making Pat Buchanan look like a black man and shit in the early nineties.
Starting point is 00:05:15 And that was a personal project for Pat Buchanan, right? It was like his kink. Yeah. Can you make me, can you make me look like a black guy? Thanks. I don't remember that because I was like so young. Yeah, yeah. No, you should.
Starting point is 00:05:27 I remember. I was 17 at the time in 1990. I can't remember anything. 1992. I was 43 years old. I remember pretty well. What are you, Biden? That was the first technology that I was scared to buy.
Starting point is 00:05:42 Morphing. The hell is this? Anyways. That's AI. The hell is this? Anyways. That's AI. Yeah, that was my first brush with AI. What's something from your search history that's revealing about who you are? Janie, go first. Me go first?
Starting point is 00:05:55 Okay. This took a while because I had some fairly like normal searches, believe it or not. Just a lot of like Spanish to English translations. Okay. Are you bilingual? no I've been learning Spanish for a while nice soy practicando mi espanol oh bueno
Starting point is 00:06:14 yeah I had this cool picture of a wolf staring at the moon that was kind of fine that's one wait that shit looks like those corny ass t-shirts that everybody wants to wear. It's hard as hell. Wait, is that wolf? It's like a man with their hands on their knees and shit?
Starting point is 00:06:32 It's probably some furry shit. It's the meme format. It's a really cool picture. A lot of people post this on Twitter a lot. I needed it for a reason. It's a mood. It looks like it's improvising poetry to itself it does it's like uh it's like the vibe of like sitting by the uh bonfire in dark souls you know it's
Starting point is 00:06:52 kind of uh it's it's romanticized stoicism and i like that quite a bit okay okay but i i was my roommate texted me the other day and said hey Hey, uh, can you keep it down? Like I'm like studying. And I just sent her a picture of, um, my, uh, Amazon shopping list. And it was a, uh, a unicycle and hand symbols. Really like cracking myself up thinking about like how funny it would be to move into like an apartment as like someone's neighbor and be like, you know, it would be to move into like an apartment as like someone's neighbor and be like you know i'm gonna get into like doing like circus carnage like circus side show right i'm gonna like buy but yeah i'm gonna be a live circus monkey learn how to ride a
Starting point is 00:07:36 unicycle and bash and wear like a red velvet vest too obviously yeah and a little fast cap yeah i feel like that's what's going on when you're like uh like playing halo in like live party chat you just hear like families screaming and like monkeys like bashing on symbols in the background right right right you're like i need to mute the fucking chat yeah always some wild shit that you overhear over those gaming headphones carmen what about you oh my god okay well i have a lot of shit in my i've been looking i've been converting the yen to usd because i am going to japan my home land yeah yeah i am going when you go in october october beautiful time beautiful time for spooky season baby oh there she is. But I
Starting point is 00:08:25 have recently been searching Julie Masking. And nobody knows who the fuck Julie Masking is. I thought that was a makeup technique. I'm like, oh, yeah. You could call it a makeup technique. And if we're talking full
Starting point is 00:08:41 silicone bodysuit as a makeup technique. Oh my god. I became obsessed with Julie Masking about And if we're talking full silicone bodysuit as a makeup technique. Oh, damn. Oh, my God. Yeah. So who's Julie Masking? I became obsessed with Julie Masking about 17 years ago when she posted some videos on early YouTube. Like, they're still up on YouTube. She looks like long legs. She does look like long legs.
Starting point is 00:08:59 She has long legs. And I'm obsessed with long legs right now. So anything long legs is just making me, like, freak out. and I'm obsessed with long legs right now. So anything long legs is just making me like freak out. But she is a character that appeared online 17 years ago and then disappeared just as quickly. She would just post random like 30 second videos of herself and a full silicone, hyper-realistic silicone mask. And I could not for the life of me remember what her name was a few days ago. So I was having a full manic episode trying to remember what this woman's name was. And, you know, you'd be surprised.
Starting point is 00:09:36 It's actually not a man in a full silicone bodysuit. She's actually a trans woman in a full silicone bodysuit. Wow. And she's like an artist? Like, what's the backstory? Yeah, she's actually... So I found... Well, there's not... It's what like yeah she's actually so i found well there's not it's very mysterious it's yeah it's like i love that you brought this up to my attention this is like a creepy pasta that i would like watch yes it's like very like shrouded and like
Starting point is 00:09:56 mystery nobody really knows who julie masking is but her flicker exists on the internet and it turns out she's just like a old school like showgirl drag performer trans woman from back in the day and i guess 17 years ago she just decided hey i'm gonna put on this fucking silicone mask and freak everyone out on the internet and i remember watching those when they were first posted but then the other day i was trying to remember who she was because i was thinking a lot about long legs, as I do ever since I saw the movie. And I was just going insane. I was like Google image searching, like trying to like figure out her name.
Starting point is 00:10:32 Her name is Julie Masking. But today she has a new, she's still doing it. But now she goes by Julie Mask, spelled in the English or French way, which is M-A-S-Q-U-E. Oh, that's cool. Yeah, there's not a lot of information about that. She's very shrouded in mystery. Okay, we liked it. But I've been obsessed with her for a long time.
Starting point is 00:10:54 There used to be this old, creepy YouTube video that I'm going to describe badly, but I'm sure... I feel like you, Carmen, have probably seen it. Probably. It's like a grainy VHS thing of of like this like girl in like a bunny suit like on stilts and she's like singing like a children's song or something oh it's very it's like terrifying like i remember seeing it in like 2010 and it was like i was so enamored by it and it's the kind of it's like you described it's like the kind of thing that like it's impossible to find like any information on right because it's like the kind of thing that like it's impossible to find like any information on right because it's probably like that's probably the point it's like it's like a you know art
Starting point is 00:11:29 project by some like you know insular little like gay guys like living in like kentucky or something you know and that this is just what they do in their free time to freak people out right but nonetheless i do think it's like real i think that shit's so cool like i love that i love shit like that. I need to, if I find this video, I'm going to send it to you. I, I bet you,
Starting point is 00:11:48 you've seen it, but yeah, so hard to find anything now. Yeah, it is, you know, everything, the search engine is fucked up.
Starting point is 00:11:55 Yeah, I know. What is something you think is underrated? Kat? Vinegar. As a concept, I think we don't give enough credit to vinegar. We have salt and vinegar chips. It gives us a pop.
Starting point is 00:12:11 I don't like cucumbers in general, so those types of pickles I'm not a fan of. But like pickling any other vegetable, you can't do it without vinegar. It's a great cleaning solution. It can get like pretty much anything off of anything. It can take any smell out. Once again, salt and vinegar chips. I just don't think we give enough credit to vinegar i love salt and vinegar chip yeah did we decide that vinegar was a food stuff and then spilled it on something and watched the dirt like melt away like i wonder which came first or was it a was it a cleaning solution that somebody dropped a potato chip in and then was like i wonder which came first discovered or was it a was it a cleaning solution that somebody
Starting point is 00:12:45 dropped a potato chip in and then was like i'm too hungry to not eat this thing i was like i think it was someone being like like when you smell sharpies and you're like it smells kind of good yeah it's kind of i think it was like that yeah uh it's maybe oh i guess it derives from the old French term meaning sour wine. Ooh, never mind. Okay. Well, fine. I love it. What are y'all's favorite chips?
Starting point is 00:13:11 Oh, salt and vinegar. I love a good, like, when there's a good salt and vinegar chip. I like regional chips, you know, whatever, like, is like the local brand. I'm not, like, I don't care what the flavor is. Fascinating. Like, you go to, like, you know, like, like Louisiana, they eat Zaps, like, crottiers. Yeah. And those are, I was like, yo, what the fuck is fascinating like you go to like you know like like louisiana they eat zaps like crawtakers and those are like i was like yo what the fuck these are amazing uh those are super good chips but yeah i like i'm a big salt and vinegar person for sure yeah me too i like salt and vinegar i also like uh like jalapeno anything with a little bit kick yeah yeah are
Starting point is 00:13:40 you when you get do you get fish and chips and then just douse the shit in vinegar are you you talking about like, because right now I'm on a real like tin fish kick. Because like now if you've tried sardines on a salt and vinegar chip or anchovies on a salt and vinegar chip, if you really like vinegar and salt, it's amazing. Okay. Oh, wow. I just want to pitch that out. Tin fish. Oysters, vinegar. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:02 Yeah, exactly. A good mignonette. You know, the red wine vinegar is essential. So fascinating. So fancy. Notsters. Vinegar. Yeah. Tin fish. Yeah, exactly. A good mignonette. You know, the red wine vinegar is essential. So fascinating. So fancy. Not a girl mignon. Mignonette. No, it's not a girl mignon.
Starting point is 00:14:14 Right. I just want, and I knew that. I was just clarifying for our listeners. Google it really quick. Mignon. Oh, that ain't a mignon. I guess you could call it. Damn, dude.
Starting point is 00:14:25 This restaurant sucks. Yeah. Just your mention of Sharpie, that is one of my favorite smells, along with tennis ball, new car. Somebody needs to create an air freshener that's Sharpie-scented. Because I feel like I don't know that many people who openly admit to loving the smell of sharpie are we talking about straight up
Starting point is 00:14:48 sharpie yeah i love that smell i mean it's got that funk to it yeah it's got that it's like it's like a nice cheese you know what i mean where you're like oh and then you're like that hand sanitizer is like the cheese monger of third grade you know just like oh it's kind of stinky but i kind of love it but it's kind of hits me you know part of my brain that i'm not used to maybe it's brain decay but i don't know yeah those are the like accidental chemical compounds that for whatever reason i like want everything gasoline yeah gasoline is the one i'm gonna put on a list after this of like, I don't know, someone that likes weird smells or
Starting point is 00:15:27 someone that smells dangerous materials. They're like, hold on, tennis ball can and gasoline? Are you making like flaming tennis ball? Like, yeah, we did that too. Put some gasoline on the tennis ball and then launch it, start a forest fire. I think we've got a new business idea. Kat, do you like tennis ball smell?
Starting point is 00:15:42 I do love tennis ball smell. Are we dogs? Yeah, I know I'm not. I do love tennis ball smell. Unimpeachable. Are we dogs? Yeah, I think we might be. I remember getting in trouble at a Big Five for popping open a tennis ball can when I was like four that we weren't buying. But then my dad had to buy because I was just cracking it at the Big Five.
Starting point is 00:16:03 I was like, you know what? Let me. Yep. And then I was up like Don Jr. big five. I was like, you know what? Let me. Yep. And I was up like Don Jr. on a Mar-a-Lago live stream. His Rumble show is just so good. It's my favorite show in the world. God.
Starting point is 00:16:14 Yeah, we're going to have to watch it. We watched it on yesterday's episode. I think we're going to have to watch it again. At least talk about that whole situation, sir. Sir. I have a specific clip if y'all are interested. Oh, yeah, great. I wonder if it's the same clip. Yeah. Was it from the J.D. Vance
Starting point is 00:16:29 livestream? Oh, no. This is one from a couple months ago where he's ranting about Fox News and it just gets... They're like, they won't let me on anymore. And it just keeps going on and on. And it's extremely funny. And we're not talking about that. I will put a link to this in the chat. Okay.
Starting point is 00:16:45 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Put that in there. What is something, Caitlin, you think is overrated? Another movie. Long Legs. Wow. Long Legs. Sorry, everyone.
Starting point is 00:16:57 But here's the thing. Back-to-back Long Legs takes on the show this week. Oh. Wait, what else was said? Yesterday's guests were like just check it out it's fine it's fun don't look into it too much if you like horror great watch it boom it wasn't like sort of like a like a full endorsement like this is the greatest thing it's like but yeah it's fun it's just watch it i mean i think it is worth the watch for some of the
Starting point is 00:17:23 things and you don't got to adjust. You got your own, you know, your own opinion. So what is it? Yeah. So what is it? So why is it bullshit?
Starting point is 00:17:30 No, I thought it was really good until about the, the midpoint and then it lost me. But I thought, I mean, it's an effective horror thriller. I was, I was feeling on edge.
Starting point is 00:17:45 The tension's there. But I think it gets really goofy world building wise about halfway through. And then it completely lost me. So I was just trying to do too much. Yeah. Yeah. And so I feel like it didn't live up to the hype. What?
Starting point is 00:18:03 Yeah. I just remember I felt like everyone was like, oh, I saw it more than like, oh, it's the best movie I've seen. Like, I felt like a lot of people were just like, yeah, I saw it. And it was like, yeah, it was cool. Yeah, I guess now, like when the early reviews were coming out, I was like hearing things like, I shit my pants. Get ready to shit your entire pants and not be able to move to change them. Yeah. Part of the marketing was the lead actor whose name I also don't know.
Starting point is 00:18:37 Nicolas Cage. What's her name? Yep. Forgot. No, I got this one. Caitlin, I got this one. Nicolas Cage. Micah Monroe? Yes. Yes. yep forgot no i got this one the other one i got this one michael's cage micah monroe yes yes there was this uh clip of her approaching nicholas cage's character for the first time
Starting point is 00:18:54 in the scene like she hadn't seen him in his makeup at like in character until she was like as long as long legs yes and also my letterboxd review for this movie was like his legs weren't even that long misleading i mean this does play into your favorite format of film review about radioactive yeah yes yeah because but he was named after a dang spider you know oh but in the trailer yeah they are being like 100% on Rotten Tomatoes. They are definitely needing it to be like flawless victory. And I would say that is incorrect in my humble yet expert film opinion. You're a master of victory.
Starting point is 00:19:38 Long legs just fucked your whole shit up. Yeah. And made you shit in your pants. Made you shit in your pants. Made you shit in your pants. And we're not paying for new pants. Don't even try to bill us for it. Why are you guys being so mean to us?
Starting point is 00:19:54 Look at you. You shit your pants in you. Hey everybody, this fucker shit himself. What? Why is this on the trailer? Why are you so fratty? Why are we breaking the trailer? Why are you so fratty? Why are we breaking the fourth wall?
Starting point is 00:20:10 This is like an arty horror film. Oh, shit. Yeah. But I'll tell you one thing. It has long legs at the box office. I had to say it. Still earning? Still earning. It did.
Starting point is 00:20:19 Wow. It's Neon's top film of all time. Oh, okay. Yeah. All right. Well, I mean, good for them. Good for them. Neon's top top film of all time oh okay yeah all right good for well I mean good for them good for them it's worth seeing
Starting point is 00:20:29 I just don't yeah it's not it deserves quite all the hype that it got 100% flawless score you're like okay go watch Blake Wexler's
Starting point is 00:20:39 stand-up special Daddy Long Legs instead yeah okay yes how about that support local artists
Starting point is 00:20:44 how about that okay you want to support local artists you want to support you want to support long legs and stuff. How about that? Support local artists. How about that? You want to support local artists? You want to support long legs? You want to support long legs? How about a daddy too with long legs? Not some nepo baby named Nicholas Coppola. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:20:59 You're going to hear your uncles really making a scene on set too there, Nick. Did you read that report? I remember when we were first talking about Megalopolis and how he was You're going to hear your uncles really making a scene on set two there, Nick. Oh, my God. Did you read that report? I remember when we were first talking about Megalopolis and how he was like being fucking like he was touching women and trying to kiss them during like the Bacchanal type scenes. Wait, Francis Ford Coppola was? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:16 And now like more reporting has come out to be like, yeah. I think a video is coming or has sex grim. Yeah. Oh, gross. He's like, I'm just trying to get him in the mood you're like dude this isn't 62 right and that also wasn't appropriate yeah yeah but in his mind he's like that's how we did things you're like yeah well you know we've moved along he's like dear lord i sold a whole vineyard for this all right right let's take a quick break and we'll come back
Starting point is 00:21:45 talk about Veep Stakes. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray,
Starting point is 00:22:00 former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and LA-based Shekinah Church, an alleged cult that has impacted members for over two decades. Jessica and I will delve into the hidden truths between high-control groups and interview dancers, church members, and others whose lives and careers
Starting point is 00:22:25 have been impacted, just like mine. Through powerful, in-depth interviews with former members and new, chilling firsthand accounts, the series will illuminate untold and extremely necessary perspectives. Forgive Me For I Have Followed will be more than an exploration. It's a vital revelation aimed at ensuring
Starting point is 00:22:42 these types of abuses never happen again. Listen to Forgive Me For I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Gianna Prudente. And I'm Jamee Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline, a new podcast from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. When you're just starting out in your career, you have a lot of questions, like how do I speak up when I'm feeling overwhelmed? Or can I negotiate a higher salary
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Starting point is 00:23:56 I'm Keri Champion, and this is Season 4 of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really near them.
Starting point is 00:24:15 Why is that? I just come here to play basketball every single day, and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is unapologetically black.
Starting point is 00:24:29 I love her. What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game? And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better. This new season will cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, And we're back. So the GOP, the party that is America's most outwardly racist party, is suddenly worried that their racism may be alienating voters. According to multiple reports, it seems that leaders within the party have become increasingly worried that their reflexive racist rhetoric. I just I just branded that that's called alliteration,
Starting point is 00:25:29 could cost them in the election now that Kamala Harris is the presumptive nominee. So last week, Politico reported that leading House Republicans had to tell, quote, lawmakers to focus on criticizing Harris's record without reference to her race or gender, following a series of comments by their members that focused on Harris's race, as well as claims she is a, quote, D.I. pick. They also worry that Trump and some of his more extreme supporters will be unable to refrain from deploying sexist and racially fraught language, which they fear will hurt them with crucial voting blocks. I feel like many people have decided, but yeah,
Starting point is 00:26:06 it maybe doesn't help at this point to keep letting people know we don't like women of color, women, color. I think they're also like the GOP are kind of anticipating what a potential debate performance would look like between these two because the optics were bad enough when trump was like looming behind hillary clinton in 2016 like the fucking babadook you know like said before but i really watched that debate recently yeah it's creepy like he couldn't help himself and i doubt he'll be able to yeah it's hilarious but i i yeah i i don't think it's gonna
Starting point is 00:26:43 work out well if he just he could be full pitbull and just attack biden and it's going to work out well if he just, he could be full pitbull and just attack Biden and it's not the same strategy here when you say full pitbull, I thought he was going to be like DALL-E the Mr. 305 I know he likes Miami I'm going full pitbull in this
Starting point is 00:27:00 he finally takes off the hair piece and goes full pitbull he would win every state. He would. It would be a 50 state landslide if he went full Pitbull. He's going to power up like Michael Jordan when he embraced the ball fair. They're like, what about Pitbull summer? Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:27:17 Heisenberg. Look, when they, when they get the hair. Mr. Worldwide. Mr. Worldwide. Yeah. Mr. Worldwide. 305. Dale. We. Yeah, Mr. Worldwide, 305 Dali. Or he goes, Dale, Dale, Dale. The Holiday Inn.
Starting point is 00:27:32 Why do I feel like the GOP does this every four years where they decide, oh, wait, we can't rely on only white people. Because they got nothing. They can only rely. But remember, I remember even the first time I voted was when Mitt Romney was running against Obama. And I remember at that time being like, holy shit, did they really just put Mitt Romney on Telemundo in brownface to capture the Hispanic vote.
Starting point is 00:28:08 And they really did do that. And I just feel like every four years they have this realization where they're like, oh yeah, we can't win if we are alienating voters of color. So we have to pander in some kind of way. Right, right.
Starting point is 00:28:22 The Democrats are really good at it. Oh yeah, hot sauce? Hot sauce in my bag? I just thought, pander in some kind of way but right right the democrats are really good at it oh yeah conservatives have had a really big like identity crisis like ever since really like ever since trump like lost in 2020 um or even before that whenever like you mean jd because the whole the whole thing is that like conservative policies like like when you present like an average american with like okay we're gonna um cut social security and we're gonna like repeal like you're not gonna be able to get an abortion and gay people can't get married by and large those are deeply unpopular policies yeah so the whole like conservative and really the whole like fascistic strategy
Starting point is 00:29:05 entirely is to like blame outliers you know blame immigrants like say like you're like you know be prescriptive about like the things that are wrong and then blame like an out group right for it so but the thing is like they're victims of their own success because trump was like the first person to like take that like like instead of doing dog whistles he was like what if he just said that you know yeah yeah he would just say like mexicans are rapists i'm going to do a muslim ban like yeah stuff like that like that's not a dog whistle at all so i think that like while trump has this kind of like tv guy charisma that was able to like kind of captivate people motherfuckers like jd vance do not you know they have no riz no aura and they can't fucking like fashion a message like they talk like fucking podcasters like they talk like in a way
Starting point is 00:30:07 that is no not like this but you know no no it's true i'm just saying like like they talk like fucking like these insular right wing like twitter people yeah and i think that like that's all who that's all who they talk to and exchange ideas with ultimately at the top of the party i mean i think yeah and i think this was always the issue with the party following trump down this path like in it worked it may have worked in 2016 to be like what if we really turned it up and see what happens and that did work to an extent but every pretty they failed in pretty much every subsequent race even for for many down ballot races, down ballot candidates that wanted to specifically emulate that style. Obviously, many Republicans get voted in, but there are a lot of times you see people go hard on the Trump shit and then pretty much everyone's turned off and they still haven't quite connected that.
Starting point is 00:30:58 But this concern obviously also extends to Trump's rhetoric as well. One person who was close to the campaign said many others feel that his words are becoming a liability, but they have no control over him. This is a quote from somebody who spoke on the condition of anonymity quote, we hope he doesn't act like a crazy racist and sexist person, but we can't control him. There are probably dog whistles and racist and sexist tropes he'll stumble into. His campaign is going to try to keep him out of that rhetoric but it's going to be difficult because that's all he knows and yeah yeah yeah hate to see it and they're gonna be like well actually he meant he meant this when
Starting point is 00:31:35 he said that uh yeah you know like whatever it is so like it feels so much like 2016 again yeah but it but it's interesting because like conservatives kind of have like the same problem that like hillary clinton had where like no one in 2016 no like liberals wanted to admit that like hillary clinton by and large was deeply unpopular and i mean that's why she lost and i think that conservatives are having like a similar moment where they do not realize how unpopular this is like because they own twitter and they are like they've like kind of like insulated themselves in this like super online bubble where like their insane rhetoric of being like you know like everyone's like childless mothers are are worthless they're not even fucking people if you don't have a baby
Starting point is 00:32:25 yeah childless women are yeah yeah worthless yeah everyone's a gross cat lady what about single dudes like ah well i'm focused on the women part it's like and on the flip side kamala doesn't have i mean she only has a certain amount of baggage amongst a specific group of like ultra leftist you know people and and it's i she doesn't have the history and i think she's not hillary clinton yeah they don't know how to attack her yeah yeah yeah not yet a war criminal right right yeah i mean she kind of is well i mean she's part of an administration she's the vice president she's a drug war criminal it's adjacent yeah drug war criminal and look i mean like look as long as we're sending munitions uh to israel i feel like there's a strong case to say that you're you're you are in that camp unfortunately still pretty immovable in that regard but yeah i don't know we'll see about
Starting point is 00:33:16 that i guess yeah i mean i think you know like you know racism and bigotry like well obviously like prevalent in society like they aren't the kinds of ideologies that are going to attract new people right not in the way that the current gop does it um and even the most like basic analysis would show you this but yeah i mean like the biggest reason too a lot of the the these candidates win that's a lot to do with voter suppression so that's the other dimension to it but speaking of these weirdos who are just racist and fucking bigoted just have every kind of phobia under the sun they really don't like being the butt of the joke like you know there there's a bit of political wisdom that shows calling the right weird may be one of the most effective tactics of getting them off message many conservatives are like right now
Starting point is 00:34:02 they're trying to push back on the accurate description of their worldview. And it's like clear they don't know what to do. Like Vivek Ramaswamy, like he's like, it's dumb and juvenile to be calling saying they're weird because this is a presidential election, not a high school prom contest. And you're like, I'm sorry, you're trying to what are you trying to appeal to within people right now that this is dumb and juvenile? You have people calling some the weirdest fucking insults coming from the right. But yes, this is dumb and juvenile because it's kind of got you off balance. There is this Pulitzer Prize winning journalist, Tina Rosenberg, like in a New York Times article about like just observing the Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville wrote that alt-right rallies have six core goals. And I think this is kind of interesting just to
Starting point is 00:34:48 kind of keep in mind as you look, as we look at what is happening with this, like, you know, calling the right weird right now. Their six goals are quote, legitimize their views, strengthen their self-image as part of the downtrodden, unite their squabbling factors, attract new people to the movement, control media coverage, and feel powerful and heroic. Now, obviously, righteous anger is probably the first response that most people arrive at when looking at this kind of hateful shit. But violent clashes typically allow these goals to be achieved very quickly for these sort of alt-right demonstrations and enable their ability, again again to look like they are being attacked and that they are the victims
Starting point is 00:35:27 and that they have to actually you know use a bit of heroism to be able to fight back fucking Antifa or whatever the you know de jure is for them they're being soy they're being soy and this is a classic
Starting point is 00:35:44 thing too is that they're doing cancel culture they're like they're doing and they're doing this is a classic thing too is that they'll they'll they're doing cancel culture yeah they're like like they're trying to get people like fired for like joking about like trump's ear getting grazed like stuff like that yeah yeah they're so like it's but i think again like there are a lot of examples where you've seen like there was like a like neo nazi rally in montana where people just showed up like dressed as clowns and are just like being like look at these jokers and then like slowly like all right let's get out of here this is like stupid because what they want is people to pull up and scream in their faces but when you pull up and just do the nelson from the simpsons and hit them with the
Starting point is 00:36:17 they're like what the fuck there was like another example, of like this anti-racist sort of like sort of fundraising walk in Germany. And like a lot of German, like far right figures wanted to protest. So like they, too, wanted to be part of it to demonstrate. And the people just like ironically clapped for them. And they're like, yeah, man, you guys are killing it. Wow. And they were like, the shit just fizzled out. They're like, man, like they were just leaving the route because like this isn't I don't want to be cool anymore.
Starting point is 00:36:47 Yeah. But the weird description, I think, is super, you know, it's on the nose for the moment. And like to your point, I think both of you were making earlier. They only talk to these like very strange dudes that are like in tech. And that's where there's a lot of reporting now that, you know,-wing tech billionaires have an outsized influence on donald trump right now he's like listening recently he's like i love crypto like he used to not say that shit he's like crypto's thin air blah blah blah yeah like very much crypto is like i do not think he genuinely understands what it is but he did say like now we're going to be the crypto capital of the world and you're like right
Starting point is 00:37:24 because you talk to some people and they're like yeah protect my money and this is what you need to say and you know caitlin has her own coin now too jenner coin it's now she's doing rug pulls now it's um there's a i it's worth noting that i read this morning that the choice for J.D. Vance was propped, was pushed on him by Elon Musk, Tucker Carlson, and I think Donald Trump Jr. And they're all soy boys. And those are all, yeah, those are all like gross, insane people. Like, I mean, I don't know. With no risk. I think it's the best messaging Democrats have had in a long time because it's something that, I mean,
Starting point is 00:38:11 the Biden era was so bad because even though I think a lot of Democratic policies are popular and a lot of Democratic candidates were doing well down ballot, having Joe Biden lead the party when he can't speak, like, it's a serious, like, liability. Yeah. But now, like, yeah, I don't know. I think that just being, it kind of reminds me of when,
Starting point is 00:38:36 you know, I know that Kendrick certainly won the beef. But when Drake said, Metro, shut your bitch ass up and just play those drums. Make some drums. That is such a funny, like, dismissive, Metro, shut your bitch ass up and just play those drums. Make some drums. That is such a funny dismissive tactic. Just being like, you're not even worth discussing. Go back to your lab. These motherfuckers, their whole strategy is pulling out 4chan memes.
Starting point is 00:39:00 It's like, 4chan is weird. 4chan is gross. This shit is not worth fucking engaging with no one knows what Wojak is outside of y'all what are you doing the fact that you have a full like folder of Wojaks to like be mean to trans people is fucking weird man
Starting point is 00:39:15 that is that yeah there's no other like it's and I mean the obsession they have with trans people is so weird like the whole yeah like every trans person is a pedo now every like it's just like all yeah so it's giving obsessive it's like what and why i i think i think being dismissive is such a good strategy because it's not worth engaging with like it's not worth having ideological argument like having like ideological arguments on like like should trans people exist
Starting point is 00:39:46 like should uh women be like mandatory to get pregnant like this these are stupid insane ideas and it's like it's easier to just be like no that's weird dude that's fucked up what yeah just being like bro what yeah i think trying to actually like debate. Yes, exactly. Debating these things legitimizes it in a way that's not worth doing. Because you again, like I think I may have said it yesterday, like when especially when there's like a urge to point out the hypocrisy of them, too. It's like that's pointless. It's it really is pointless.
Starting point is 00:40:21 So you have to play those drums. Negate the context that they're trying to like bring you into this debate like you know like this is this is the framing that we want to do and just be like bro fuck this framing completely yeah and like you're fucking weird dude shut up yeah because i think you know the that tactic again they're still trying to figure out what to do they're only demonstrating even further that this is an accurate assessment. And yeah, the weirdness, it's hard to beat those. It's hard to beat those allegations.
Starting point is 00:40:53 Because like the other side is when they're when, you know, a lot of the time the Democrats are spending time like this is scary stuff, man. This is scary. They like that. They want people to be like, oh, my God, they're scary. Yeah. So then when you see a MAGA hat you're like oh yeah that person is like you look like a clown yeah and then now you're like bro you weird bro what have you guys seen that guy on twitter that like goes around like wearing a maga hat yeah yeah yeah flyers and no one cares like no one pays attention to him at all like yeah because they want that beef when
Starting point is 00:41:27 they go out they want they want confrontation yeah it's again it's 2016 2015 shit it's like trying to like trigger people right it's like and yeah it's like i mean we lived through four years of trump like we we were not that triggered anymore yeah we become calloused yeah right yeah i don't know i i've i've enjoyed i enjoy this topic a lot like i was glad that this was like not something y'all discussed already because like we i mean i think it's something we've been talking about it but i think because it's interesting to see like okay we're doing something there's like it's something different now to to sort of you know get the conversation moving in a different direction rather than again going pot like because the
Starting point is 00:42:10 policies are they're not even real policies like you're talking about upending people's ability to be free or be themselves and not have that be attached to some kind of societal punishment yeah and i think by just obviously addressing the fucked up nature of that is good to message but then they zoom out and be like yeah because they're weird and they want to be all up in your business when they need to be minding their own shit and this is this is what they're trying to do yeah i think i've brought this up a few times but yeah i think that like like owning twitter and making it like a super like right-wing platform has really like put them i think you use the word echo chamber like i'm gonna use it again like it's really like made
Starting point is 00:42:52 them like gas each other up in a way that's like you know most people don't fucking use twitter like yeah most people and also like to the people that still do like like to the normal people, it's really damning that any time you see, like, conservatives, like, defending, like, J.D. Vance, in the immediate comments under it, it's, like, further right conservatives being like, well, he has an Indian wife and race mixing is bad. And it's like, y'all are fucking crazy. Right. There's no world in which. What did he say about his wife recently in an interview? And obviously she's not white is what fucking crazy. Right. There's no, what did he say about his wife? He said, and obviously she's not white is what he said. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:30 That's oh my God. It's so like, because he's internet brain. Yeah. Like he's been on fucking Amy Teresa's podcast. No one should know who that is. Like, right.
Starting point is 00:43:41 But that makes me laugh. That's good. You shouldn't. She's nobody, but like, she's kind of like a red scare That's good. You shouldn't. She's nobody, but like, she's kind of like a red scare type, but it doesn't matter. Okay.
Starting point is 00:43:48 Like, yeah. Like that's the kind of people that these people like are like capitulating towards. And it's like, like if you look at who JD Vance follows on Twitter, it's like insane. It's like,
Starting point is 00:44:00 he follows like Ben Shapiro, Ted Cruz, and then like a guy that's named like Bailey chair, Hitler, Hitler, Hitler, Groyper, 1488. Right,
Starting point is 00:44:09 right, right. Whoa. Like the ironic Groyper. Like, yeah, like it's, it's,
Starting point is 00:44:15 it's so they're all unappealing. All of these people are too. I mean, it's really, really no surprise that they don't respect women. They are too afraid to defend their own partners. It's great. Like Ted Cruz, Mitch McConnell, J.D. Vance,
Starting point is 00:44:29 they've all had shots taken at their wife and they are just too afraid to defend it. Sitting in the cuck chair, just watching it happen. Yeah, and then they call everyone else cuss. That's how I like it. It's crazy. It is. Right.
Starting point is 00:44:41 Again, that's a very 2016 term, like calling people cuss that i feel like that died down we're back baby we're back we're back into time traveling again that is a weird term like that's a sexual like porn term yeah and it comes from people it's like my worldview is derived from tropes i'm seeing in the pornography i'm consuming. Exactly. Yeah. Okay. What about coward? What's that? I know videos where a guy sits in a chair while his wife has intercourse with another guy.
Starting point is 00:45:12 And he's a cuck. Okay. We just call that lack of character and being a shitty partner. I don't know what being a partner is. So I'm just going to have to relate it to the porn I watch right now. My wife.
Starting point is 00:45:24 Oh, you mean the amateur brunette milf? Oh, you mean my stepmom? What? Shut up. I see a lot of parallels with J.D. Vance and Ron DeSantis
Starting point is 00:45:39 as well. They're both people that got gassed up in their own little bubble, but now that they're exposed to a that got like gassed up in their own like little bubble but now that they're like exposed to like a big stage like most people are like what who the fuck is this guy and look how fragile like fragile the desantis's masculinity with was weird lifted up boots and shit like always just trying to project this like masculine thing when he wasn't just it just looks the difference is like if he just was like embraced it i don't think people would notice you know what i mean but it's the it's the attempt to try and like shed who you actually are that becomes really like it's really obvious when
Starting point is 00:46:14 people are fronting like that and even when they're trying to do like the like culture war shit it's just like it comes off as inauthentic and obviously like what they're saying is repulsive but to add to that the insincerity of you obviously like what they're saying is repulsive but to add to that the insincerity of you're like dude what are you doing like for what what are you doing this for carmen did you see the thing where jd vance said something about like he wrote something years ago where he was like and that was the most like i ever felt like a woman no yeah i need to find it it's pretty funny but. But yeah, he's had some weird... Did he have like a hemorrhoid surgery or something?
Starting point is 00:46:49 Is it real? I'm seeing a tweet. He's wearing a Julie mask shirt. A Julie mask suit. It was said it's a blog post from 2005. And again, this is... Anything about J.D. Vance on Twitter, I'm going to take with a grain of salt,
Starting point is 00:47:02 but I'm also going to take with a grain of I want to believe it. So it says it tells him a 2005 of an emotional day where he, quote, felt more like a female than I ever have or will. And explains he can't watch Zach Braff's Garden State Garden because New Jersey's landscape is so much like Ohio's. The music is so relevant to my life right now. I'm sorry. Let go by Fru Fru. That's so funny. That to my life right now i'm sorry let go by frou frou that's so funny that like my life right now garden state is like his i saw the tv glow like he heard new slang and
Starting point is 00:47:35 was like man i should try on women's clothes like i work with zach braff i should i should ask him how he feels oh yeah you should yeah you should. You should. Yeah. Get his thoughts on that. I was like, it's the most I ever felt like a female than I ever will because I watched Garden State. Again, JD, you're not tough, man. Just embrace whoever you are because whatever this is, aim it. All right. Let's take another break. We'll be right back.
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Starting point is 00:51:56 day and i wanted to see like if you could talk about pain day and also talk about like anything else that has like come across your radar with regards to some of these names that people who don't watch fox but know about fox yeah like what this question makes me so happy because there is so much lore in my brain yeah that matters to no one else let's have it sean hannity is um a martial artist specifically it's an eclectic blend of martial arts he talks about it a lot on his radio show one time he had eclectic blend of martial arts one time he had um conor mcgregor on his show and he kept like mentioning his dojo and kept being like kept hinting at it and i guess he was hoping that mcgregor would be like oh you want to do like a
Starting point is 00:52:41 tussle or something he never did the entire time gregor was just like i uh but pain day is i believe it's once a month and uh essentially sean hannity just gets the beaten out of him by a sensei okay and uh yep that's pain day i think it's great i think it's a great concept yeah yeah yeah he talks about it a lot yeah helps him stay sharp. Yeah. I think more workout routines should involve one day where Sean Hannity gets the shit beaten up. That's just such a funny one. If every American does this, we could have Sean Hannity off the air.
Starting point is 00:53:17 Sean Hannity would be so shredded. And also, hey, Sean, you want to live in the world where you don't have to call it pain day and you can just let your kinks, you know, be out there. Yeah, man. You know what I mean? Right. If that's what you want once a month, get the shit kicked out of you. A lot of people. It's an eclectic blend of Krav Maga and Kempo Karate Jiu Jitsu.
Starting point is 00:53:36 He has to give that speech every time when he enters the dungeon. Yeah. So like just a person in the waiting room who's just like. Actually, what I'm doing is, it's not weird. It's an eclectic blend of manly stuff and, you know, getting my sensei's, you know, sweat to drip in my mouth. And you're like, what? Sir. So that's one interesting piece of weird lore.
Starting point is 00:54:00 Whatever, what other weirdo lore can you bless us with about some of the. Can I tell you about Glenn Beck's weird little girl shoes in a glass box? Yeah. Yeah. I'm going to go with yeah on that one. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This was like in 2021 when I was just like clipping random stuff and it always stuck in my head.
Starting point is 00:54:18 Glenn Beck was talking about, he came on the Tucker show to talk about how awful the big tech is, big tech censorship, and somehow compared that to internment camps of the Japanese during World War II here in the U.S. Jesus Christ. What? I love that. For some reason, I can pull up a picture of this for y'all. Yeah. He was like, I have this pair of shoes.
Starting point is 00:54:44 And he had them in a little glass box. Here we go. I am sending this in the Zoom chat. He had them in a little glass box and they're from a little girl that was in a Japanese internment camp. And then he compared that to big tech censorship. I have no way to explain what was going on in his head. It is like, it's exactly as I explained,
Starting point is 00:55:07 right? Those are, those shoes are called geta. I'm Japanese. So like those shoes specifically, like those, yo, that is,
Starting point is 00:55:15 they're not just shoes like these. If you're Japanese, like you'll look at that shit and like, yo, what the fuck? And that's like his keepsake from the internment. Like what, what did he say what's
Starting point is 00:55:25 his connection to it like aside from why he wants to have those pairs of shoes i think he just bought it i think he was like this is a symbol for i have no fucking idea but he keeps them in a glass box in his home and brought them on national television i'm a bit of a collector of memorabilia of small girls in pain. Yeah. Going through. I mean, that definitely is like a pain is the point type keepsake.
Starting point is 00:55:51 Cause you're like, look, that was the last time we had it together enough to intern our own fucking people like that. Um, you know, aside from the carceral state, but that,
Starting point is 00:55:58 but I mean like for Glenn Beck, he's more like, God, I wish we could do this again. Yeah. Right, right, right,
Starting point is 00:56:03 right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right,
Starting point is 00:56:03 right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right,
Starting point is 00:56:04 right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right,
Starting point is 00:56:04 right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, do this again. Yeah, right, right, right. Exactly. Right. He's like, that's how I got kicked off Fox. It's just like Twitter. It's just like Jack Dorsey. It's the same thing. Right, right, right.
Starting point is 00:56:09 Oof. Yeah. To remind him. Glenn Beck, sir. So that's something I think about a lot. And I think more people should know about. Yeah. Laura Ingram has this guy, Raymond Arroyo, who's a Fox contributor on like almost every day.
Starting point is 00:56:25 And they gossip. And it's fascinating. It's a fascinating dynamic. They become so bitchy and petty with each other. And I really want to hear their conversations off air, to be totally honest. There are so many guests. So many guests. I have actually a whole bunch of post-it notes on my wall right
Starting point is 00:56:45 here i've just like videos that i need to do at some point and one is disappointing your favorite actor when you were a kid is now a regular fox news guest and then oh yeah oh man yeah just like one of my favorite people from the real world uh or was it rachel duffy campos oh yeah yeah i was like i was rooting for you on the real world when I was nine. There's an MTV to Fox News pipeline. Yeah, Kennedy too. Because her husband was also on the real world. That's right.
Starting point is 00:57:11 On a different season. Yeah, yeah. Wait, can I tell y'all one more really racist thing that Jesse Waters did this year? Because, like, it's just insane. Yeah, yeah. Let's please throw another one on the pile of racist Jesse Waters stuff that's happened this year. jesse waters stuff that's happened this year so they were talking on water's show about black voters and a possible menthol ban and i can't find the exact clip but i remember it now yeah about a menthol ban and then they had tyrus on tyrus was on there to promote his book you could
Starting point is 00:57:38 tell they did not tell him anything about the topic and so he comes on and Tyrus, for the record, for anyone that doesn't know, is half black. And Jesse goes, so what do you think about a menthol ban? And Tyrus was like, well, I don't smoke menthols. A lot of people don't smoke in general. And he then he mentioned at some point he was like, and I'm half white or something. And Jesse went, wait, you're half white. Like on air. I thought this man,
Starting point is 00:58:09 like this professional wrestler was about to deck him. It was the funniest shit. Wow. Just completely unprepared for this segment. Goes all in. Like Jesse is also unprepared for his own segment that he planned that he was ready for. God, what a fucking
Starting point is 00:58:26 loser yeah you're bi racial what the fuck that's the same time bro's like a guest on gut fell out like i can't defend him too much yeah yeah yeah no like tyrus his takes are always so bad he's always deployed to be like hey give us racist cover right by like if can you please do that because obviously this is a time-honored tradition for political fiery rhetoric. But like, the other thing though, too, is just thinking about like how getting caught up in this machine completely like fucks your head up.
Starting point is 00:58:56 Like, you know, you mentioned how J.D. Vance was basically sort of shaped in the fires of Tucker Carlson's show and had some record inordinate amount of appearances prior to him becoming a Senate candidate. And I feel like J.D. Vance is one of these like truly like Machiavellian type characters that is like willing to sell out his own ideological ideological beliefs, like in service of climbing the power ladder. And it is just wild to see where he's at now because so many people,
Starting point is 00:59:26 so many white supremacists on the right have taken issue with the fact that his wife is a brown female that like, it's wild to see this like clip of him on Megyn Kelly's show and kind of talking about the controversy around it, but also like half, I still have to play this because this shows how you will be chewed up and spit out by like right-wing talking points to the, like, to the point that you have no respect for your own wife and mother of your children. Um, this is Cruz. Yeah, right. Exactly. Uh, this is JD Vance on Megan Kelly show time. I don't know. Yeah. Maybe she's Brown. Uh, this is listen to this. Look, I love my wife so much. I love her because she's who she is.
Starting point is 01:00:04 Obviously she's not a white person. And we've been acute attacked by some white supremacists over that. But I just I love Usha. She's such a good mom. I'm sorry, but I love her. It's not obviously we've been attacked. Well, sure. But it's not about saying like, yeah, we were attacked by some white supremacists.
Starting point is 01:00:23 And, you know, he could have like any reasonable person would say and they're really wrong this is a human being has nothing to do with anybody goes but you know she's the like it's almost like well what do you want me to do you know she's like a good wife so you know despite that you know i love her uh but just comes off so fucking again just weird it's like you're a fucking shitty husband and you look you look so fucking dumb again because you have to you know be a collection of the right values to ascend in the party and then you end up just like not even knowing who the fuck you are anymore yeah and he's not qualified you know i mean the only reason like you said you know fox made him a senate candidate like at one point they had him on outnumbered the show where they have one man and then a bunch of women in short skirts next to him.
Starting point is 01:01:08 Right. He was like one of their hosts when he was running for Senate. So he just had like an hour of uninterrupted airtime. Right. And I used to think I was like, wow, he's the only successful Fox candidate because you had, you know, Dr. Oz. Right. You've had all these candidates in the last few years that are like Hannity's friends. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 01:01:28 And they're not actually like good at their job, but they keep getting clobbered and it's very funny. But J.D. Vance slipped through. And now it's like, oh no, he was so unprepared for this. Yeah. Yeah. 100%. 100%. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:39 I mean, the reason that so many of them were losing is the exact thing we're talking about right now is they, so many of them were losing is the exact thing we're talking about right now is they so many of these like trump fox candidates are weird and people were like i don't like none of this really resonates with me and then the one who slipped through they're like more of this welcome meet meet your new vp and, yeah, it has given the Democrats something to run with, it feels like. You've referenced Gutfeld a couple times.
Starting point is 01:02:10 Oh my god. So you have watched Gutfeld. Our obsession. Oh, I have watched so much Gutfeld. I have watched possibly months of Gutfeld. More Gutfeld than even Gutfeld has seen.
Starting point is 01:02:25 I certainly put more effort into any of my bits than Gutfeld has done for his entire life. Sorry, continue. I hate to just... Yeah, you were talking about, like, it seems like they're just, it's the same conservative comedy special over and over.
Starting point is 01:02:43 Like, it's just the same handful of jokes. What does the writer's room look like for Gutfeld besides non-union? Yeah, non-union. You need a rhyming dictionary. I don't know if y'all have seen a two-minute cut of
Starting point is 01:03:00 Gutfeld just rhyming. This is him in one week. He's the worst man in the world. Just rhyming? Just like a terrible, a terrible comedian. It makes me so mad. He's not a comedian.
Starting point is 01:03:12 They were like, this is the closest thing we have. Right. Yeah, his writer's room, it's just essentially saying shit in like a weird cadence. It's the amount that he rhymes, I think,
Starting point is 01:03:23 is what really gets to me. Because it's unnecessary. Like rhymes in place of comedy. I'm sending a link here. Yeah. So this is all I watched Gutfeld for, like, I, you know, watched it in the background, but I switched with a person that watched it, like, intently every night for a whole week. This is every rhyme he did during his late night show for one week. It's just one week. This is what it's been. One week of me rhyming. Here we go. Words have them stumped, so they blame it on Trump. Biden gives himself a pass for the cost of food, milk, and gas. Step outside if you dare.
Starting point is 01:03:53 There's turds in the air. Who should we be thanking for journalism tanking? When will Trump make the leap and announce his veep? When will Trump make a peep about his choice for veep the media cries about their demise for tabloid fodder she's a keeper but what if taylor's stories went much deeper will politicians live forever thanks to a brain chip endeavor this is comedy right this is comedy diapers canes and chips in their brains. Elon enters your mind with a chip he designed. Are they fucking serious?
Starting point is 01:04:28 We only made it 41 seconds. We are a third of the way through. Oh my god! This is one week's worth of shows. It's so wild. And that's not counting the ones on the five because he also rhymes on the five. And some will say, well, those are just his transitions
Starting point is 01:04:44 between segments. And to that, I would say that's a shitty transition between segments also it's not just his transitions between segments there are plenty of rhymes within the segments yeah right and those that's not comedy right yeah that's not a joke that's two words that sound similar yeah it's not a joke and i'm not triggered it's just shitty it sucks it really does suck oh man this is great i have been losing sleep ever since i heard about gutfeld and how uh the right is getting funny and the left is worried but this is this is good news we feel like he's the king of late night and they are at 7 p.m. on the West Coast. Right, right, right. Yeah, truly, truly dominating the fucking charts.
Starting point is 01:05:30 Dominating the charts. The air is full of sharts. Oh, wow. How can we hear one? I want to hear your best gut felt. Oh, yes. Here's the thing. We've got a presidential pick named Kamala Harris. She'll leave the nation
Starting point is 01:05:46 embarrassed. He's going to steal that one. Yeah, I know. I got new ones. Yeah. Justin, can we edit that out? That would actually be the end of her campaign. I'm actually going to take that one. No one can defeat Gutfeld.
Starting point is 01:06:02 No one. No one. Exactly. I have to use his own weapons against him exactly to bring him down it's the only good thing bill maher has ever done is go on gutfeld show and make him look stupid the only good thing bill maher has ever done oh wow yeah because yeah because he went on and gutfeld was like see we have so many points of view and bill maher was like this is the only time that you've ever had someone that's like a liberal and i'm doing air quotes y'all can see exactly he's like we might be equally islamophobic actually we might overlap so yeah in that sense i kept trying to be like see we're like besties we're like best friends
Starting point is 01:06:34 and bill maher like was just like okay like i'm here to promote my book which is so funny too because like even in comedy you see like some of the people that go on bill maher's little like you know what basement podcast that he does and half the time they're like, dude, what? I know. So good. Alright, that's going to do it for this week's weekly Zeitgeist. Please like and review
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