The Daily Zeitgeist - Weekly Zeitgeist 334 (Best of 8/12/24-8/16/24)

Episode Date: August 18, 2024

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the Supreme Court is a fucking disaster. She's a supervising attorney at Texas Law, has worked as a public defender in Rio Grande City, Texas, and an activist who got arrested for protesting Israel's ongoing atrocities against Palestine. Please welcome back to the show, Rhiannon Hamam! Hey, it's me. I didn't prepare any AKAs, but yeah, I guess that Rhiannon Hamam, aka Jailbird, I don't know. Yeah, that's right. That's right. You've been arrested since we last spoke. That's right. Yeah. Great to be back. Thank you for having me. Thank you for being here. Yeah. You got arrested protesting on the campus of University of Texas. Do you I'm sure you've talked about it. I know you've talked about it on five four. I heard you talk about it on five four.

I'm sure you've talked about it. I know you've talked about it on 5-4. I heard you talk about it on 5-4. Yeah. But can you talk about kind of what that kind of like tactic of protests on campuses was really intense and widespread over the spring. At UT on the day that I was arrested, there wasn't even a student encampment. It was just students gathering for like, you know, a teach in and some art activities and talking about the genocide and yeah state of texas through ut basically just called the cops on this crowd called the cops on a bunch of kids standing on standing on the lawn at their school so um yeah i got arrested there it was really it was it was so wild you know it's hard to like derive really like any like strong lessons out of it like about the law or something like that because

it's just like no the lesson is like the state will call in cops to beat up some kids if they don't like what you're saying right like that's that's kind of it and we'll arrest you and do and do violence regardless of whether you respond you know do respond to what they're telling you to do 100 yeah yeah all for exercising your first amendment exactly exactly yeah kind of like i guess i learned the wrong first amendment in law school but um right something different than what the uh than what state troopers in te learned, I guess. Yeah. Yeah. I like that they weren't ready on the day of the actual protests. So they were like,

that's not going to work for us, but there are people here. So can we just like kind of go through with this? I already have like the shit on me. Like I have all the, got way too much shit on me. I brought my huge baton. Very uncomfortable.

And I also brought 30 massive horses. So can I just let loose on these 19-year-olds or what? That's right. All right. Well, I'm sorry you went through that. But thank you for your courage in the face of state violence. And, you know, just fucking the ongoing horrors of this civilization we live in what is something from your search history that's revealing about

who you are i googled this phrase dating apps that don't suck shit oh Oh, okay. And it didn't yield the results I was hoping for. Didn't yield results about people who like sucking shit? Dating apps that do suck shit. No, it was just like, here are some dating apps that you already use and that do indeed suck shit. Have traumatized you in real time. Yeah.

So I didn't really find what I was looking for, but I think I made a valiant effort. Yeah. Do you remember that one? That was a good search. I don't know how they got around to that search. That seems pretty airtight. That's bulletproof right there.

Thank you. What is the name of the, like when someone's attracted to somebody's intelligence, sapiosexual? They had an app that was like that and it was all the dumbest people on the app. Right. It's like people who just found out what the word sapiosexual means. Sure. And I'm sure it attracts a lot of people

who do their own research. Yeah. Which are not always actually the smartest people I have found. And that's just a personal opinion, but it's what I have found. Yeah. I feel like there's probably a dating app that like their log line, their pitch is like, we're the dating app that doesn't suck shit. And it's just the worst dating app, probably, because like, that's just how capitalism, this modern version of capitalism works is like, so we'll claim that we don't do the thing that we actually do. And then we do that thing harder than anybody else.

Anyone else. Yeah. Yeah, they all seem to be competing with each other for the suck shittiest app. The shit suckingest app. How is the meeting people in real life situation right now, given that the app sucks so bad? I feel like people might be going back to that. Is that true? I think so.

I keep hearing about people joining like running clubs to meet people. And here's the thing. I don't want to be in a running club, but I did join a co-ed soccer team that started up. But I did join a co-ed soccer team that started up. There was a moment where meetups were a thing, where they would do like paint and wine nights. And it was just like strangers, you know what I mean? Or people who were trying to make friends and stuff. And I feel like that's kind of coming back in. Maybe not in that format, but.

Yeah, I think so. I did like a speed date, like my first ever speed dating event. I don't know like a while ago now is like probably six ish months ago but it uh was kind of as it was pretty suck shit as well yeah it's just it's the quality of the people is the big problem i think they don't have anything against people suck shit yeah it's the people who suck shit and that's the whole thing with dating is you have to interact with people and if they suck shit the whole experience that's right and it just so happens that most people suck shit so you gotta get through the shit suckers to find a real diamond sucker you know what i mean exactly there's a lot of shit around diamonds

that's true the diamond in the rough more like the diamond in the shit yeah yeah the diamond in the heavily compacted shit you know just the rock hard piece of shit all right daily zeitgeist no no i wasn't getting you on track at all trust me i would never do that daily zeitgeist people if you know a single person who doesn't suck shit damn me so that it doesn't go to caitlin's inbox right and then i can send it to all of you all that yeah thank you caitlin deserves the best and then maybe we'll get one person who is perfect for you. Oh, let's hope so. They have to like Paddington.

And that's about it. Does anybody know Paddington? Does anybody know Paddington? Yeah, do you know him personally? I just want to date you to get to Paddington. Yeah. That's what this all comes down to. The people on the dating apps suck shit because they don't know Paddington. I met this person on a

dating app they were a real paddington fucker and that was that was like a story of a great experience right that was the beginning of a tale that ends with wedding bells yeah that's me meeting caitlin on a dating app They just keep asking about Addington. Yeah. Just because he's my cousin. Have you tried AI? I've been told by the creator of Bumble that we're all just going to be on dating apps using AI as our personal... Our AIs

will date each other to figure out if we're compatible. I'd rather walk into the ocean. Muttering to yourself? rocks in your pockets. Because there's plenty of fish in the sea. Yeah, I think that's a better plan, actually, than their plan.

What, Jodi, is something you think is underrated? I don't know if this is underrated. This might be more what I've been listening to lately. But I've been personally riding the rated and overrated and underrated roller coaster with charles mingus lately and and that's because a lot in part because of the kamala stuff and all those pictures of her holding up all those records and one of them was a mingus record and do you know what i'm talking about those those memes of her so there was there was this video of kamala harris like from a couple

years ago and it started flying around when she was when she captured the nomination and it was like her coming out of a record store and she had like some you know a lot of great albums uh and one of them was a mingus album and then someone made a little thing you could where you could like insert have her have Photoshop, automatically Photoshop her holding up any album you wanted. It was very clever. But anyway, so it just Mingus has been one of my favorite artists for a long time and seems weirdly criminally

underrated. And it was nice to see Kamala buying a Mingus album and it's put me back on a very big Mingus kick over the last couple weeks. Mingus is a jazz musician. Oh yes, sorry. Jazz musician who also trained his cats how to use the toilet, but that's another story. Really? That's why I'm a fan of

him. Yeah. I actually wasn't aware of his jazz work. I was just a fan of his. You're a fan of the Charles Mingus catalog for toilet training your cats. You used to be able to write Charles Mingus a letter to a P.O. Box in downtown Manhattan and then

enclose $2 and then he would mail you back a photocopied method pamphlet with his method. It's incredible. Wow. And do we have access to that method? Yeah, we do. I did a whole radio piece for it one time and then tried to train a kitten using

the Mingus method and it didn't work that well. But yeah, it's very intuitive. I talked to a vet and like sort of cat psychologist who validated that Mingus really had sort of tapped into something about cat psychology in terms of the method he was using to coax cats into using the toilet. Was one of the steps like play just the smoothest jazz for them like so that they get super relaxed there's some joke about scatting in here there's there is it's in there i saw uh kamala won some italian pasta making contest like all of these things from when she was like from 2012 or something all of these random facts are coming out about her and it's just very surprising like what's what's being unearthed that's cool

what is something you think is overrated s'mores okay shit dessert every s'mores i don't know if this is just me or if other people are experiencing this in the world. Because we obviously did a zeitgeist in turn where now it's dark chocolate outpaced milk chocolate. Which when I was younger, it was milk chocolate everywhere. S'mores are everywhere now that I'm seeing. There's like s'mores flavored soda. Oh, yeah. S'mores.

Things trying to taste like s'mores. It's a stupid word. It has needless, yeah. S'mores. Things trying to taste like s'mores. It's a stupid word. Has needless apostrophe. Some mores? You want some mores? Fuck you. Get out of here. Dry cracker.

I don't understand why other better things, like a fine chocolate at a Chocolatier's, are trying to taste like s'mores. Yeah, it's definitely a thing that's like a nostalgia thing of like being around a bonfire or being at like going camping and they're trying to take that and change the ethos of it to make it like fancier or different or whatever.

And it's like, the reason this is good is for the memories, you know? If I'm sitting at home like eating a s'more, I'm like, this is is not this is sad now yeah my argument is just eat chocolate and throw glow sticks into the fire because they explode and then you glow and it's awesome yeah i probably carcinogenic yeah it's probably not good for you

and then huff the glowing gases you escape. You have a different nostalgia than I do. And you're so sick, dude. We did do that. That was one of our regular camping activities. Yeah, because they get hot and boil and pop and then you have dots of glowing shit all over you and you play hide and seek

in the woods. That sounds really super fun. Psychedelic and fun. It would make a good nostalgic J.J. Abrams movie scene of kids playing. Yeah. I think you zeroed in on it with the dry crackers. You mentioned the dry crackers of the s'mores. And I think that it's always the thing that when I have the s'mores.

Wait, are you talking about J.D. Vance? Is that what you're talking about? Dry crackers. And marshmallows are mid. They're not bad, about? Try crackers. And marshmallows are mid. They're not bad, but they're not... Wait, vegan marshmallows are really good. What marshmallows? Vegan marshmallows are really good? Vegan marshmallows, I think, are better than regular marshmallows.

And I'm vegan, but when I was vegetarian, my meat-eating friends, they would do that thing where they're like, this is actually better than the original. And I'm like, I actually believe you. You ever hear people say vegan and go, what? Vegan? Yeah, I'm like, I actually believe you. You ever hear people say vegan and go, what? Vegan? Yeah, I'm encountering vegan lately too.

Trickle down broccoli. Are they saying vegan like vaguely vegan? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm hearing vegan pronounced vegan. But are they doing it as a bit like I'm vaguely vegan? I'm not actually vegan?

They're doing it as a more acutely vegan and in fact I know a different pronunciation. I think it's like they're implying that it's the proper pronunciation. I'm so vegan that I actually know this other level pronunciation. This feels like a

psyop against, this is like meat eaters being like, how can we make them more fucking annoying? Right. Have you ever had, I mean, I guess if you don't like two of the three ingredients, you're probably off. But if you replace the dry crackers with some moist cookies, it's actually pretty good. Oh, yeah. Squishy chocolate chip cookie sandwich with marshmallow and chocolate. With marshmallow and chocolate. Yeah. And melted chocolate. Oh, yeah. Squishy chocolate chip cookie sandwich with marshmallow and chocolate inside.

Melted chocolate. Okay, now you guys sound like you're trying to elevate the s'more again. It sounds like you're doing... We're doing a bit of an elevated s'more concept here. A deconstructed construction. The dry crackers just crumble

too much. You take a bite into them and it's now in 45 pieces. That's the beauty of it. That's why we can't escape the Nature Valley granola bar. We love the mess. We're just messy bitches. Yeah, yeah. That is my kink.

I just need that shit to be crumbling on my chest. Crumbs in the bag, baby. Bums in the streets, crumbs in the sheets. I also, you mentioned that we went from milk chocolate to dark chocolate and I'm I want to go back. Me too. I love milk chocolate.

It always felt like dark chocolate people were like very pretentious. And they push it. They made me feel bad about it. They're like 30% just as a treat sometime when you want to feel extra adult and you have that acquired taste 50 60 70 dark chocolate and it's all you can get at the grocery store we win the percent of dark chocolate everything in the rest of your life is crumbling but if you were able to

take this bitterness, just like you are your coffee and your beer, then you can take the fact that your wife, Susan, left you. I just eat baking cocoa, actually. And that's my preferred form of chocolate intake. New TikTok trend, raw dogging cocoa. Raw dogged cocoa. Yeah, I feel like it's for people who take pride in the wrong things about being an adult you know they're just like pain suffering i've had people say to me be like you like chocolate oh you you like like dark chocolate like how dark you know they like want to get into like a dark chocolate darkness off and i'm'm just like, nah, I don't. That feels very Silicon Valley tech bro. I'm having like flashbacks.

Yeah. Leave me out of your sick fucking game, man. Anyways, milk chocolate for life. Let's take a quick break and we'll be right back. I've been thinking about you. I want you back in my life.

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If January 6th happened with this being the law, the only thing he did wrong really was not make it a military coup. If he had used the military, then that would have been OK in line with this ruling, because then that's part that's him using his official capacity as president. Yeah, yeah, that's him using his official capacity as president. Yeah, yeah, that's right. So like, the question here is like, okay, when do presidents get immunity? And like, well, you have to step back and think like, why? Why is there such a concept in the law of presidential immunity? And it's because you want the president, you want certain government officials to like, be able to do some stuff that the normal person wouldn't be able to do you already talked about like leading the military the president's commander in chief like you know you order the military to do some stuff there's going to be consequences that for me to order somebody to do that that would be a crime right but we want the president to be able to do

it that's why there's presidential immunity and so the way courts in the past have decided where does presidential immunity lie is basically as if the president is doing an official act, right? If it's an act that the president is doing because the president is the president, right? So you can hold them legally accountable for doing something. Yes, they're the president right so right you know you could you can hold them legally accountable for for doing something yes they're the president but they're not doing an official act so you know the president the president and i get an offender bender you know six blocks from my house yeah i would be able to sue the president he's not doing his presidential duties in rear-ending my car you know yes but especially he kind of fucked up your 2014 Kia Soul.

That's right, yeah. That's absolutely, like, he should be in prison. He must pay. He must pay. That's right. But, yeah, so in this case, the Supreme Court, this is a majority decision written by John Roberts,

basically says, if you're the president, almost anything you do is going to be an official act. Including treason? Basically? Yes. Yes. Yeah.

What's so, so wild is what the Supreme Court says is, or what the majority, the majority, let's be real, the hyper-conservative six maniacs. But John Roberts is the middle-of-the-road guy who was going to save us all, I thought. Let this past Supreme Court term be the death of that idea. all over the place where he is like articulating a frankly psychotic conservative vision of the law and of the constitution this guy is not a moderate please stop saying that you know right yeah so yeah in this in in this case they're saying like yeah basically everything is a presidential official act because you know we can't decide whether something is official conduct or unofficial conduct by looking at, by inquiring into like the president's motives, right? So that means like it doesn't matter for what purpose the president does something. It doesn't matter how self-interested, it doesn't matter how violent, as long as it's like draped in the shroud of the presidential office then the supreme court says

the president is insulated from prosecution right so it's like kind of like i think peter said this on the on the on the episode that we did about this case but he's like okay if if basically like if the office of the presidency is like a gun what the court said here is that when you become the president you gain the completely unfettered right to use that gun however you want it doesn't matter who you shoot at it doesn't matter why it doesn't matter you know how you abuse that access to the gun right right the only thing that matters is it's your gun it's an official act and so you you are immune from prosecution for any criminal acts that you do with that gun right yes um it's it's really really really it's really wild yeah and like you said at the beginning like we have we're doing monarchy

now and if trump gets back in the white house it feels like he's going i mean he's gonna really explore the studio space with this like this is like it feels like it's like a like a request like a band that's doing a request for somebody like he's like could you play this one like it's so like a dare like i dare you to test the limits of this limitless power? Yes. There are limitations like I think you guys brought up, like the president doesn't have the right to regulate emissions or force federal employees to be vaccinated. Those are executive powers like a Democrat might use. But he has the green light to orchestrate a coup and subvert an election. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's a it's a little bit coup and subvert an election. Yeah, yeah.

I mean, it's a little bit different, but it is related. Like, it's a good point. But like, it's a little bit different because this is about criminal prosecution, right? So, but yeah, it's like saying like, yeah, there are other areas of the law that are going to like rein in executive power, rein in the administrative state. Oh, no, you can't do that. No, you can't. You can't, you know, the EPA can't say as part of a presidential administration that EPA can't, you know,

regulate waterways in this way because all of our waterways are polluted and water is poisoned in the U.S. No, no, no, no, no, no. That's like a that's too much power. Right. But all these crimes, you can definitely do that. And what's crazy, you know, you brought up like, OK, like the next a next Trump term, he's going to really be trying this stuff out and really empowered by this crazy decision. And that's true. I mean, like the decision itself is not just saying like, oh, yeah, in general, you're getting carte blanche, although it does say that. But it is about specific acts that Trump took leading up to and are on January 6th. Right. And so, you know, that, you know, the accusation that Trump like leveraged the Department of

Justice, right, to like open sham investigations or to threaten sham investigations into voter fraud so that states would be like coerced into changing their electors he also threatened to fire the acting attorney general for not cooperating with that like that's those are the specific accusations that trump or anybody else could be criminally prosecuted for and you know the supreme court john roberts in this decision says well no that's like part of being that's just part of the office yeah he's the president yeah of course he's going to fire the like remember how big a deal it was when he fired comey we were like holy shit we have entered and and then he like went on that lester holt interview and was like yeah i

didn't really like that he was looking into me so i you know it was like oh my god we've like entered a new world where he's just going to try and get away with it and now the supreme court's like yeah no that's like totally fine what yeah like shut the fuck up. Stop complaining. Right. Right. And so if you can like misuse, abuse your power with like ordering the DOJ to do illegal sham shit. Right. Then, yeah, in the second term, like that you there's really no telling. And and the court said, yeah, it's not just this stuff for which he's immune. It's also like, here's how you think about these cases in the future. And again, that's just like, if it's connected to the office of the presidency, if it's, just kind of draped in this, if he can say, I did this in my capacity as the president, then yeah, he's immune from criminal prosecution for anything that comes out of that. He's immune from criminal prosecution for anything that comes out of that. And it really felt like a broad and unapologetic collusion between the Supreme Court and Trump. They delayed the ruling for him and then found even more strongly for him than what he was seeking.

Yeah. than what he was seeking. Yeah. It's just like now in retrospect, I think we're having a hard time getting our mind around just like how off the rails this has gone. Like, no. Yeah.

Yeah. Just listening back to like earlier episodes of your show of like any show, like from before this, you know, like when I, I remember being like oh i'm coming back from a trip with my family on uh july 11th so that'll be like when trump is sentenced so we'll find that out then like that's just gone it's like the worst case scenario was like him not seeing jail time

and now we're just like oh no actually maybe what he did is legal maybe like he's not a felon because because the supreme court is like he can do whatever the fuck he wants everybody no absolutely yeah no it's super crazy like the yeah like the discourse was about like you know i never thought trump was going to see prison time right but it was like okay like maybe he would be like on house arrest for like a couple weeks or something and then he's just like on probation and like that would be crazy and ha ha ha cleaning up the side of a highway yeah like the secret service has to go with him on community service days just the photo op you know right yeah no it's like erase all that and he is king yeah yes he's going to be king if

he was yeah yeah well and he's like he's like explicitly saying this he's saying like if you vote for me you're never gonna have to vote again yeah like he's ready to just post up and be like i can't commit a crime like yeah we're good here it's done donezo yeah yeah i really feels like we'll never get him out of office the if he wins this time and yeah i in the next act i want to talk about how i like it feels like he's specifically signaling that this is his plan is like his ace in the hole is that he has like the supreme court on his side or at least a lot of judges and election officials but the day that this came down he was like we should be thinking about prosecuting liz cheney for treason like he knows yeah he's ready to use this power yeah like the the doj is like

is his gun now he's going to be able to do the thing that he was joking about joking in quotes but like clearly you know has always wanted to do which is like shoot someone in the middle of fifth avenue and like get away with it like yeah exactly He's like it's like not that far off from what he's been talking about. Right. For four years now. And it's just about like him. That's that's what's so dangerous about a Trump administration in terms of things like Project 2025. Oh, all all of that that comes with it is we've already seen it in a first Trump term that he installs the people who allow him to do this, right? Who build up, who change laws, who interpret laws so that when he has power, he can do exactly what he's saying he wants to do with it, you know? And so, like, you from our, from, from my perspective, like watching the Supreme Court, you know, you always have to go back to Trump had three nominations to the Supreme Court, got them, you know, got all three confirmed. And, you know, you just have to be real. I think, you know, like legal analysts, political analysts, all of that kind of thing.

We you have to be real that Trump installed those three people for very specific reasons. Right. One, which they've been super upfront about and which they already achieved was overturning Roe v. Wade. He put those three conservatives because he knew those three conservatives would vote that way. Right. And now with that, like kind of it's very direct, like a quid pro quo, like I put you on the court to do X, Y, Z. And here we go. This like crazy conservative supermajority. They're ready to do it. They're there. Yeah, they're doing it more than willing. Yeah. They're X x y and zing it exactly do we it does you're right it does feel like this has been the plan all along i was wondering like because john roberts had been more like he hadn't been this out and out like right wing crazy had he

or am i was i just like not paying attention it's entirely possible i wasn't paying attention but like it feels like i don't know that like brett kavanaugh got in there and he's just like a bad influence on everyone or something like it just feels like it's like a total it's taken a real turn i think that's right like john roberts has always been a conservative like he's always hated things like voting rights. You know, like, his legal career before he was ever a judge, like, shows a lot of his, a lot of super conservative positions on a lot of things. I think this past term might show us, the past couple of terms at the Supreme Court, might show us maybe two things. One is that John Roberts now is the chief justice presiding over cases that we could make in the conservative direction on Roe v. Wade?

Right. Yeah. But it's like literally like is the president immune from criminal prosecution when the president does crimes? Right. Right. And so it's like the conservative, the hyper conservative inside of John Roberts can totally jump out because because the cases in front of the moderation, right? Or sort of institutional legitimacy from the court that John Roberts was like kind of using as a tactic in years prior, right? And I think another thing too is that John Roberts and the rest of the conservatives on the Supreme Court and everybody on the Supreme Court is a human being who is influenced by the political moment and media and, you know, shifts in popular opinion and shifts and development in conservative thought, just like everybody else is. And so, you know, Fox News is writing is rotting their brains too yeah they're you you can absolutely tell that they're just mainlining fucking jesse waters and oh yeah oh yeah i mean in the case of alito as we'll get to fucking like q conspiracies but yes yeah it's it's so wild i, this is how fascism happens,

right? Like the rule of law is not like, it's not like fascists come in and just like say no more Supreme court. It's the rule of law. I think it was said on five, four by Peter, like the rule of law is whatever fascists need it to be in a given moment. And it's inconsistent, but it is, you know, they will use it like a cudgel, you know.

That was probably on our episode about Snyder, which is a case about like bribery, like bribing elected officials where the Supreme Court said like, well, exactly like you know all of these cases like on their own you're like oh that's fucked up oh that's another fucked up decision but when you see them all together and you realize like what the supreme court is doing like that is the overarching goal is about ushering in right a legal order where these conservatives are in charge these conservatives are the ones saying what the law is and they will always use that to they will always use that to like reach the results that they want for their policy preferences for that vision they have for the world and whoever has the most money becomes the most powerful exactly totally, you know, if Trump becomes president again and he exercises this ability to commit crimes with his God given right to commit crime. choice and that's great and good do whatever you need to do buddy versus if not trump is elected and then that person tries to commit crimes i feel like the supreme court would be like well

in this case actually no and oh blah blah like there's no objectivity yeah yeah no and you see the tools that they use right so like they they put like the appearance of legal analysis, and they say, well, like, well, you got to decide first, if something is an official act or an unofficial act, right? And so you see that they're like, building in the tools that they're going to use to reach the completely opposite result when they don't like the president who's doing the acts, right? So in the future, what they can say is, well, no, that wasn't, you know, if let's say Kamala wins, right? Well, no, Kamala wasn't doing an official act as part of the office of the presidency. That was an unofficial act. And you don't get presidential immunity for unofficial acts, right? So it's all about just like recognizing like the law isn't

like a mathematical equation where you go two plus two and you know what the result is going to be. Like the law is a tool. It's a political tool. And that's what these conservatives on the Supreme Court are using it as. Right. They're like deliberately building in loopholes that they can exploit for whatever agenda they want. A hundred percent. So the Biden can't actually do a Supreme Court reform.

Right. Yeah. So the Biden can't actually do Supreme Court reform. Right. Right. How do you think about the Supreme Court reform that Biden has very cautiously hinted at wanting to explore? Obviously, he probably doesn't have the time to do it left. But is he at least like looking in the right direction? Is he at least starting the right conversations? It's absolutely in. It's absolutely looking in the right direction and starting the right conversations. You know, it was looking in the right direction and starting the right conversations, you know, four years ago when he ran on a platform of court reform and when he took the presidency

and struck the Biden Commission on Supreme Court Reform, had people, lawyers, judges, law professors from, quote unquote, both sides of the aisle come together and talk about where necessary court reform could take place, how it could take place, what it would entail. court reform could take place, how it could take place, what it would entail. Biden and the Democrats, I think, are speaking to that, at least at the very least, giving lip service, if you're kind of cynical like I am, because they know that actually it's publicly quite popular. Like people know right now that the Supreme Court is super fucked up and that there needs to be court reform. And so, yeah, the Democratic Party will kind of throw that out, that they're willing and able to look at it and and, you know, want to get the conversation

started and that kind of thing. So, yeah, the conversation. Yeah, it needs to be started. It should have been started. And I think it's about like demanding that like the reforms actually happen. There was just a really intense earthquake in Los Angeles, California. Oh my God. Are you okay? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Justin? Victor?

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Victor has reported that he died. I'm sorry, Victor. Yeah, RIP. Oh, my God. Well, hope everybody listening also okay. Yeah. Listening a day in the future. Yeah.

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But these are just examples of how economically depressed the American entertainment industry seems to have been for the past year. Not just economically, buddy. Have you seen my bank account yeah it's it's bad out there like i everybody i talk to who works in the entertainment industry is like this is the worst i've ever seen it like that seems to be the and i've talked to i'm old as fuck you guys i've talked to some very old people who say it's the worst they've ever seen it well like over 30 like even 35 oh my god disgusting i try not to hang out with them but you know we take your life force yeah they need their pudding fed to them so

but i feel like this is all because of and i don don't know enough about it, so I'm kind of speculating here, but that's how this show should be, right? Just like making wild guesses. Yeah. That's all we're ever going to do. As long as you caveat it, you can say anything. Yeah. Exactly. Jack got a BBL.

I think. I don't know enough about it. If I wish. I would love a bbl there's like too much supply and not enough demand there's just like too much content and they're spending money on all these shows and like all these things and every platform has like a bazillion original series and original movies and stuff like that and it's like there's no conceivable way that any person who even like even people who consume a lot of media such as myself i'm constantly watching flims but like i don't know yeah flims okay they're about three hours long with no

breaks now you know flims you go to the movie nicole kidman talks at you at the beginning yeah yeah yeah we come to this place for flims um so it's just like there's too much and that's why i'm guessing that's why there's such a because back in the day when hollywood was thriving sure it was because there were like i don't know like quaaludes i mean there's quaaludes and that. Quaaludes and cocaine at the same time. We thought both of them were healthy. And there were only like, you know, five new movies coming out every month. And there was like just not that much content.

And now there's too much. And if I know anything about the economics, which I don't, but I know that it's like supply and demand. Yes. And there's too much supply and not. There has been, yes. For a while now. And they are investing or like mentoring or allowing things to grow, which I think is tied into that problem.

They're not allowing good content. That's like kind of the, as an avid reality TV show fan, I have to call out that the reason that they do that is because it's a lot cheaper to do that and pump out a ton of seasons of the same show rather than invest in like the development of characters and plot and getting like the actors that you really want to get that's like great you know what i mean yeah it's they're not just not as invested in the quality of the content yeah i mean so they invest they over invested in streaming they like went too hard on streaming and now they have stopped developing like anything new like they just cut it off and

that's why like all these streaming companies are like you know you're starting to see the headlines that they're like pulling it back after overinvesting without really any business plan of like how to make money off of that. It was just so I think there's like one of the big things that happened is like there's no it's now controlled by like five big companies. controlled by like five big companies. Like in the past, Hollywood had been, had enough regulations in place to prevent just massive consolidation like we have now. And then slowly by slowly,

like starting with Reagan and into like the Clinton administration. Reagan. Wow, famous breakdancer Reagan. Yes. She was the president of the U.S. from 80 to 88. And she was uh the president of the u.s from 80 to 88 and she came through and just deregulated like it's just deregulation over and over until now there's like only a

handful of companies and they're all chasing each other and you know so like one of them has like decides to invest in streaming and so they all like over invest in streaming. And then there's just not the small companies anymore who like when the big companies all do the same stupid thing are there to like zag and like do the smart thing that then the big companies like impersonate and like copy off of you know so now it's just like big guys making terrible decisions and making the same terrible decision all at the same time and nobody there to do the smart thing that like creates the market correction that and then the other really big problem is that private equity has gotten like in 2008, you know, when they were just basically printing money for free, private equity got involved in Hollywood. And so now we have a handful of like massive companies and they private equity money is involved. involved. So their instincts are like private equity are these like massive companies and their model is like trying to make money as quickly as possible. They're just like extracting capital

from these companies that they're investing in or taking over. And so it's their private equity, equity. They're just like us. Yes. Yeah. And so I just feel like we have fewer people calling the shots and the people calling the shots have just way worse instincts. And this is how you get to the entertainment dark ages that we might be about to live through. of like the content that was coming out and yet and like i'm speaking from a place of like my personal taste yes but it's all we can um but so my so many of the movies that came out have come out within the past like and i'm speaking again also specifically about movies more so than tv but i guess what i'm saying is no more tv more movies that's the platform that i'm running limbs on films for more films for we've entered this period in the past like couple years where like some really good not like major studio pictures things that are like lower budget not based on you know comic books or any existing you know huge properties just like independent low budget but like really well done movies are coming out because

there was like i don't know there was like five years where i'm like every movie i've seen this year sucks but within the past couple years there's so much new good stuff and i would hate to see that all go away because hollywood doesn't understand what people want right everyone should see dd everyone should see kneecap everyone should see other movies that have come out recently good the end thelma okay is that good thelma I loved Thelma I thought it was so fun and then like last year there were all these great movies Theater Camp, Dix the Musical, and uh also others unless I have a list in front of me I never know what I'm talking about but obviously The Beekeeper is on that list for sure.

The Beekeeper, fully in there. The Beekeeper. Jason Statham, indie actor. Darling, yes. I just watched Trap. That sure doesn't make sense. Oh, yeah. But I'm a huge advocate of Indian mediocrity. So, I'm going to always support

M. Night Shyamalan. And his kids. And his kids. Doesn't his daughter play Taylor Swift in that? Yeah. night Shyamalan and his kids and his kids doesn't his daughter play taylor he said yeah he said that she was his niece in the movie but it sounds but it might be his kid it was fully just an album rollout for her 100 i will say i'm intrigued by that i want to see that it's a trap itself because i had really high hopes and was there anyone in your theater like trying to kill like kill people because i feel like no well kind of because we went and jackie and i went and saw it and ryan from the boys the the kid homelander's son in the boys was there with all of his friends like the actor who played oh wow that kid but he wasn't trying to kill anyone

it was a trap in that i thought it would be fun and then it was fun but also very confusing one thing that i was going to say is like this is all like on a high studio oh there are these conglomerates deregulation the regularization level but for how that affects like us individually the fact that we can't pitch new shows but even beyond that i'm seeing more and more huge celebrities in commercials that just nobody's like us should be in you know so yeah day-to-day income used to be just everyday actors yeah it used to be just every i went into audition and i saw somebody who i've seen for i don't remember his he's one of those people you see him in everything you don't know his name he was also auditioning i'm like what

are you doing here you're like a tv movie star let me sell my soul for this like why and you you see that with also like what they're willing to take risks on and then the second thing i wanted to say was i saw a clip that jackie posted today of like Matt Damon explaining why you can't make the same movies that you did in the 90s. And it's because of streaming and how like they had the DVD released. And so they were able to get their income both from the box office and then the later DVD release. But now it's a lot less in theaters because people have the option of streaming, which I think is great and accessible. But it just means that less money is invested into different types of films. And there's fewer risks that are being taken

or fewer incentives for people to bet on these movies that might not might not have big box office summer action film fast and the furious 32 faster and furious or releases yeah they because it's they've been taken over by corporations corporations always want to like eliminate risk as much as possible which is impossible with art but up to this point we've had a bunch of federal regulations protecting it from being the way it is like right now four companies control more than 75 percent of wga writers earnings like there's four companies that control the whole thing like that there were so many laws in place to keep that from happening. And now it's just these four companies who all,

when like one of them said, we're going to do our launch our own streaming platform and like double down on content. They all did that. They created this like bloated thing that wasn't well thought through and like where they didn't know how they were going to get people to actually fucking watch the stuff that they were making and then when that failed predictably now they're like well you know the way that they're responding to that is like

writers are no longer like they took away development pay it used to be a thing where like they would sign on a writer to develop a pitch that they had approved or that they were interested in and like that writer would be on the payroll for however long it took to develop it and now they've just like changed it so that writers have to do that all by themselves like they don't get paid during the development process and can you imagine a pete buddha judge like mckinley consultant coming in and being like you have to play moms now you're too old that's exactly what it is down yeah consultant business person yeah i know writers who've like

spent years developing projects that like are you know have actors attached and like seem like they're gonna go and then never go and that person just like worked for a year and didn't see like a single cent and it's just like that's the way it's set up now it's like a really anti-worker situation that fucking sucks yeah yeah i have a friend who has been working for a couple years on a script that's like a studio-backed superhero movie and like has not been paid like frequently enough or enough like amount of money for all the work he has put in and i keep being like like can you can you like how do you advocate for yourself like can you ask for money for the labor you're tirelessly doing and he's just like uh yeah we're i'm trying but they don't want to pay

and i'm just like what like, what is this? What is this world? That's wild because also everybody is desperate. And so there's always someone to replace you. And that just that feeling sucks. Yeah. Or like how during the writer's strike, I forget which executive said that they were essentially like trying to threaten us with homelessness. Yeah.

Oh, yeah. Which guy was that? Which horrible monster? It was either a Disney guy or Zazz. The Zazz. But yeah, so the thing that they're going to because the development process has too much, quote unquotequote like risk for these now like purely corporate entities that run 75 of hollywood they're going to be even more reliant on ip which is going to make movies shittier like we we're already seeing people be like god like shazam 2 came out last year like i

like that i i can't believe speaking of libertarians last year right uh the same actor just dropped what's his name zach levi exactly zachary levi he's in herald and the purple crown yeah another another ip grab from like a 1950s children's book but because you don't have to like pay anyone whose idea that was they're just like i don't know let's just grab fucking everything on our shelves and green light it the rubik's cube the movie like whatever you know it's only okay when it's patented right it's fine when it's and sometimes it works out it would be cool if it wasn't for those reasons if it wasn't to avoid paying people because then they could actually make a good movie carol the purple crown cost 40 million dollars on production probably another 40 in you know marketing it and it made

nine million globally like in its first week like it's just a complete and i could have told them if they had they had just asked me uh i could have told them that was going to happen and that money that 40 million is not going to caitlin's friend who needs to get paid for their work it's going to other people it's going to this already rich studio execs and shit like that yeah but yeah i mean the there's a good article on harper's about this the author basically argues that some kind of radical intervention either from the government or the workers will be necessary to fix the problem. But I think everybody just lived through a really are quite aware of what's going on outside of Hollywood. But like inside of Hollywood, it's like no, no new ideas are being like, they're not even like responding to pitches anymore.

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