The Daily Zeitgeist - Weekly Zeitgeist 337 (Best of 9/2/24-9/6/24)

Episode Date: September 8, 2024

The weekly round-up of the best moments from DZ's season 354 (9/2/24-9/6/24)See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information....

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me for I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and Shekinah Church. Listen to Forgive Me for I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradenti. And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. There's a lot to figure out when you're just
Starting point is 00:00:39 starting your career. That's where we come in. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in people who do, like negotiation expert Maury Tahiripour. If you start thinking about negotiations as just a conversation, then I think it sort of eases us a little bit. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports.
Starting point is 00:01:04 Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. Every great player needs a foil. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Listen to the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your
Starting point is 00:01:25 podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry. Caitlin Clark versus Angel Reese. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's basketball. And on this new season, we'll cover all things sports and culture.
Starting point is 00:01:52 Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio apps, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. How do you feel about biscuits? Hi, I'm Akilah Hughes, and I'm so excited about my new podcast, Rebel Spirit, where I head back to my hometown in Kentucky and try to convince my high school to change their racist mascot, the Rebels, into something everyone in the South loves, the biscuits. I was a lady rebel. Like, what does that even mean?
Starting point is 00:02:20 It's right here in black and white in print. It's bigger than a flag or mascot. Listen to Rebel Spirit on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hello, the internet, and welcome to this episode of the Weekly Zeitgeist. These are some of our favorite segments from this week, all edited together into one nonstop infotainment laugh-stravaganza. Yeah. So without further ado, here is the weekly zeitgeist.
Starting point is 00:02:56 Miles, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by a hilarious stand-up comedian, writer, actor, improviser. You can catch her on stage at the monthly Facial Recognition Comedy Show, which she also produces. It's Pauly Gunawi! Pauly! Pauly!
Starting point is 00:03:15 Pauly! Pauly! I prefer the Steve Winwood version. That is a shot directly at me i didn't even know you guys were referencing the uh dance track i was like what is that michael mcdonald oh who is that winwood the classic oh some classic winwood what was his backstory is he a good guy steve winwood i don't know i looked him up and uh related names included eric clapton and i just stopped looking because i was like
Starting point is 00:03:51 well he is one of those other guys where like you hear it and you're like oh shit like i forgot this guy was white because sometimes he had those soul songs you're like oh hold on steve winwood hold on what a name for an artist you you know, for a musician. Wynwood? Yeah. Just take the woodwind and flip it and reverse it? Constantly on flute. Or a neighborhood in Miami.
Starting point is 00:04:12 Yeah, it's all there. It is all there. Pallavi, we do like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are? Oh, wait, I had this. One sec, one sec, one sec. What was it?
Starting point is 00:04:26 Too late, moving on. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Please come back. Please. No, no. I did search the word Corvids. No, I've been looking up a lot of references. Okay. I'm, I'm rewatching or for the first time I'm watching the real housewives. Like I watched all of Salt Lake city and then I watched
Starting point is 00:04:53 all of Beverly Hills and now I'm in the middle of Atlanta. So I've been watching, like, I've been looking up different references and I, and, uh, one of the characters was throwing this icons, black female icons of Hollywood party. And she was like assigning everyone a dress in certain ways. And she assigned like one person like Diana Ross and one person Tina Turner. And then she made her enemy be Halle Berry from BAPS. And so I just needed a refresher. and so I just needed a refresher because I remembered some of the outfit but then I looked it up and then that person refused and then she kicked her out of the party so I've just been looking up all of these references from season 5
Starting point is 00:05:35 of The Real Housewives of Atlanta are you doing a rewatch? I had never seen them before but I am watching that it is historical for me because I am like, I am watching that. It's, it is like historical for me. Cause I'm like, Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:05:48 Like this was what people were saying on TV, like 12 years ago. And it's okay for people to say, that's insane. That is like, like this. I don't know. There was the only white woman who was cast on the first few seasons was
Starting point is 00:06:04 like, yeah, I'm a singer. And she's like the worst singer of all of them. And then she kept saying she was black on the inside and all of this shit that like, this is from like 2009. Oh, we're talking about Kim Zolciak? Oh, yeah, buddy. Yeah, we are. Yeah, we are.
Starting point is 00:06:20 We are. We are. We are. We are. We are. We are. We are. We are.
Starting point is 00:06:20 We are. We are. We are. We are. Yeah. Yeah. It's something. But yeah, I had never seen any of it.
Starting point is 00:06:25 So I'm like, oh my God, this is fascinating. And like, there are all these like cameos from people and like guests. Like I saw Tommy from Martin was on an episode for like no reason. I don't know why he was on there. They were planning this event and he just was at a meeting about it. I'm like, what is Tommy doing in this show? Everybody wants to be in this show. Just letting you know it's serious.
Starting point is 00:06:48 It's serious. Real move. I know. Yeah. Passed away. RIP to Tommy. I know. It was sad.
Starting point is 00:06:54 What is something that you think is underrated? Okay. So for these, I asked my fiance because I feel like I've done a lot of these. So these are his answers. Wow. So I said, what do you think is underrated? Your fiance did your homework. Okay.
Starting point is 00:07:07 I don't know if you like these answers. I said, what's underrated? He said, my dick. Okay. And then overrated, he said, AI. So look, I need to... It's fine. This is his first time answering these questions.
Starting point is 00:07:23 We'll get them to a more nuanced place. Wait, so underrated his dick, overrated AI? Overrated AI. Is he available to speak on this? Is he in the room with us
Starting point is 00:07:40 right now? He's not in the room with me. Okay. For the record, I don't think his dick is underrated i depending on who's rating it i feel like i've rated his dick quite favorably properly yeah but wouldn't that cause some alarm bells you're like hold on is there are there other people who are involved in the adjudication and valuation of said dick uh that i don't know maybe his doctor maybe his doctor's rating his dick yeah yeah my doctor has so many notes on my dick it's so annoying i'm just like he said i he said i wish i had more hands so i could give that four thumbs down it's like what it's an old
Starting point is 00:08:13 chapelle show line why would you say that about me doctor could be better could be better i mean look you want pointers yeah so a tiktok finance person thinks AI is overrated. We happen to concur on this podcast. We're not big AI fans here. What are the reasons for AI being overrated? Yeah, he does have more legit reasons for that, but it sounds like an easy line to say. But I think part of it is just,
Starting point is 00:08:44 I guess the short version is sort of what we're talking about is like most people don't use ai for most people talking about how exciting ai is is aren't using ai in the way that it should like everyone's just talking to chat gpt or having them write right an essay but it's really the people using ai are the villains right like these fake websites data harvesting. But most of us don't know how to use it like that. And so it did make me think, though, if we all got more literate,
Starting point is 00:09:11 we could be using AI to fight things like that. But I think we're so far behind right now. I'm actually more interested. I mean, because we're talking about finance. Is there a way to invest
Starting point is 00:09:19 in your partner's dick if it's underrated? Miles wants to bring it back to it. Yeah, yeah. Can I get it on the ground floor? Oh, that is kind of interesting, yeah. Yeah, like an NFT, sure. Yeah, sure, NFT, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:30 I'll consult with him, yeah. Okay, okay. You want to get in the ground floor of his dick? I mean, look, I'm always looking for the next thing, you know what I mean? We are looking to take his dick public. Get immediately arrested. Unfortunately, there are some laws that are...
Starting point is 00:09:45 Yeah. Yeah. I went to the New York Stock Exchange to take my dick public. They arrested me immediately because you're not supposed to do that with a gavel. Rang the bell with my dick. Rang the bell.
Starting point is 00:09:55 Yeah. I mean, that would be an impressive dick if you could ring the bell with his dick. Yeah, yeah. We'll be discussing this in Congress. Yeah. What is something you think is overrated i'm done with the summer i think we've fucked the earth to the point where it's the worst season now i know people will go on vacation during the it's just bad it's just i would much
Starting point is 00:10:20 rather be in freezing temperatures in the winter because you can layer up than deal with being hot. And I know you all are getting a big heat wave now or soon. But yeah, I'm so done with the summer. Getting the first cold day in on the East Coast is like the nicest thing. Oh, good. I don't have to sweat 24 hours a day. How far off are you from that day, though, on the East Coast? It's been 50s at
Starting point is 00:10:46 night like high 50s for the past few days yeah it's been high 80s at night so brutal dude last thing at night when i moved to la i thought that air conditioning was like 45 a minute to run and so my roommate and my roommate was also an idiot. So we didn't get it for like two years. And there were times when it would be a hundred, you know, that, that stretch in late September, early October, where it's just in the like one tens every single day. And I was of course unemployed. So I would like almost like a hippo go into the shower and like splash water on my body to cool off like cold water get out do that multiple times a day and then fan shit just
Starting point is 00:11:33 everywhere around you like a hippo yeah and then i would put a whole watermelon in my mouth and crush it in front of a bunch of a bunch of amazed odd children, they loved it. I would do it with a pumpkin during the fall. Squash. Am I a hippo? Peppa Hippo. Peppa Hippo. I'm sorry. I missed everything because there was another one.
Starting point is 00:11:54 I don't know what you said about pumpkins, but it's okay, David S. Pumpkins. David S. Pumpkins. The thing I would do when I was, because also famously, for some reason, Asian moms don't like air conditioning either. So I grew up also believing that it was $45 a second. That like sometimes just ring out. I would soak a bath towel in water and then ring it out and then use that as like a blanket. Because that like the very wet towel created a nice, you know, insulating layer to keep my body cool. That's really funny that you would wear a wet towel as a cooling blanket.
Starting point is 00:12:33 Where I had the opposite issue where we lived in like this townhouse. And I had where I, my bedroom was, was like conditioned finished attic like really like a great place to like sleep but it didn't have heat up there so in the winter I would it was like a nice room but I would have to wear like a coat to bed like in the winter when I was home from like college and quilts and also to add like what really made it a sad visual is that I was sleeping alone in a bunk bed, too, because we just never got a new bed for me. So, yeah, when I was home from school, I would be in a coat shivering in a bunk bed, but, like, in a nice townhouse. Right. It was just the non-gap.
Starting point is 00:13:17 It was already a very sad visual. Oh, yeah. Okay. Even though you set it up, it was such a nice attic. But then the second you had a trench coat, I'm like picturing some like turn of the century Russian novel where it's like, you know, you got like shoes. Shivering in my coat in the attic. The tin plates that they would pass through the little doggy hole in the door for me to eat, you know, with the mush on it. Those would get cleared out pretty quickly. So it's not as sad as you would think.
Starting point is 00:13:44 It wasn't a bug problem. They cleared up, cleared up my tin plates real quick, real quick. As long as the three raccoons I lived up there with didn't get to it first. It was, and they got handsy. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:53 They, and I do want to say for, if anyone ever sees the visual of this, which seems less and less likely, but we're working it out folks I'm moving to New York next week so by wall we're moving I'm not as psychotic
Starting point is 00:14:13 as everything that I've said so far on this program would lead you to believe you look like you're just squatting really but it doesn't matter I know I know the truth I bring my own wifi router with me everywhere I squat. And it's high speed. Yeah, that's right.
Starting point is 00:14:27 All right. Let's take a quick break and we'll come back and learn what Flagstock is. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and LA-based Shekinah Church, an alleged cult that has impacted members for over two decades. Jessica and I will delve into the hidden truths between high control groups and interview dancers,
Starting point is 00:15:07 church members, and others whose lives and careers have been impacted, just like mine. Through powerful, in-depth interviews with former members and new, chilling firsthand accounts, the series will illuminate untold and extremely necessary perspectives. Forgive Me For I Have Followed will be more than an exploration.
Starting point is 00:15:24 It's a vital revelation aimed at ensuring these types of abuses never happen again. Listen to Forgive Me For I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradente. And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline, a new podcast from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. When you're just starting out in your career, you have a lot of questions like, how do I speak up when I'm feeling overwhelmed? Or can I negotiate a higher salary if this is my first real job? Girl, yes. Each week we answer your unfiltered work questions.
Starting point is 00:16:02 Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in experts who do, like resume specialist Morgan Saner. The only difference between the person who doesn't get the job and the person who gets the job is usually who applies.
Starting point is 00:16:16 Yeah, I think a lot about that quote. What is it? Like you miss 100% of the shots you never take? Yeah, rejection is scary, but it's better than you rejecting yourself. Together, we'll share what it really takes to thrive in the early years of your career without sacrificing your sanity or sleep.
Starting point is 00:16:33 Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball
Starting point is 00:16:55 just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really near them boys. I just come here to play basketball every single day, and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is unapologetically Black. I love her.
Starting point is 00:17:15 What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game? And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better. This new season will cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. When you think of Mexican culture, you think of avocado, mariachi,
Starting point is 00:17:46 delicious cuisine, and of avocado, mariachi, delicious cuisine, and of course, lucha libre. It doesn't get more Mexican than this. Lucha libre is known globally because it is much more than just a sport and much more than just entertainment. Lucha libre is a type of storytelling. It's a dance. It's tradition. It's culture. This is Lucha Libre Behind the Mask, a 12-episode podcast in both English and Spanish about the history and cultural richness of Lucha Libre. And I'm your host, Santos Escobar, the emperor of Lucha Libre and a WWE superstar. Join me as we learn more about the history behind this spectacular sport from its inception in the United States to how it became a global symbol of Mexican culture. We'll learn more about some of the most iconic heroes in the
Starting point is 00:18:29 ring. This is Lucha Libre Behind the Mask. Listen to Lucha Libre Behind the Mask as part of my Cultura Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you stream podcasts. How do you feel about biscuits? Hi, I'm Akilah Hughes, and I'm so excited about my new podcast, Rebel Spirit, where I head back to my hometown in Kentucky and try to convince my high school to change their racist mascot, the Rebels, into something everyone in the South loves, the biscuits. I was a lady rebel. Like, what does that even mean? The Boone County Rebels will stay the Boone County Rebels with the image of the biscuits. It's right here in black and white in the prints of a lion.
Starting point is 00:19:08 An individual that came to the school saying that God sent him to talk to me about the mascot switch. As a leader, you choose hills that you want to die on. Why would we want to be the losing team? I'd just take all the other stuff out of it. On the segregation academies, when civil rights said that we need to integrate public schools, these charter schools were exempt from that. Bigger than a flag or mascot. You have to be ready for serious backlash.
Starting point is 00:19:34 Listen to Rebel Spirit on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. We're back. We're back. We're back. We're back. Pallaby's doggy is here with us. Is that Humpy? Is that Humpy or Dumpy?
Starting point is 00:19:55 This is Sammy. Oh, Dumpy. This is Sammy. He's the little one. I want to see Humpy. Humpy. Humpy. He's all humped out. He's all humped out. Damn. All damn all right see you know all right well we did want to
Starting point is 00:20:09 check in with a story about what actually causes inflation we had speculated idly wild speculated yeah that you know as so as inflation is happening you can listen to the earnings calls of corporations whose prices are going way up and hear them talk about how they're having record profits all during the pandemic and when inflation was this out-of-control weather pattern that the global markets we're dealing with. And if you suggested such a thing, that they were doing it on purpose because it was causing record profits, you would be ridiculed. It's like, but where'd the profits come from? You also said you had lower costs. You shut the fuck up. It's not because we're doing so good.
Starting point is 00:20:57 Yeah, you what? I don't know about you guys. I've never heard of a corporation being bad. Never. Okay, for greed? Never, never, never, never greed never never never never never never never excuse me well it's just wild because only because kroger and albertsons are trying to have a merger that like you know the feds are like ah way to tick here that we got some testimony from one
Starting point is 00:21:20 of the kroger executives when they bring up this fucking email where in an email it is discussed that said, quote, on milk and eggs, retail inflation has been significantly higher than cost inflation. And then goes on to say, our objective is to, quote, pass through our inflation to consumers. And they're like, oh, wait, you mean you're charging them more? That's what it sounds like. You're passing the inflation on to us. And again, other people commenting on this, this was no secret that was happening, especially when it comes to milk and eggs. A lot of people who were defending this were like, they just cherry picked a couple comments here to make it seem like this. This is an email from a top executive at Kroger who is talking to other executives about how they're saying right here, retail inflation has been significantly higher than cost inflation.
Starting point is 00:22:17 Right. So the retail price is going up higher than what our costs are going up. Oh, my God. I like that this is like the... store version of the jinx where he's like, I did it. Oh, I raised all the prices. I do it again. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:37 Yeah. But the response from economists, a lot of economists, not all economists, but a lot of economists who coincidentally seem to usually work for or be, you know, speaking to or being interviewed by mainstream media outlets that are owned by corporations. It seems to be like, yeah, it's just like one or two bad actors. And it like there's no correlation. But like so again, just the bottom line thing is like how, when inflation's at a record high, their profits are at a record high. Those are the two things that I need an argument that's going to dispel those things.
Starting point is 00:23:16 But like you said, Miles, meanwhile, Kroger's fighting the government for their right to merge with Albertson, like two massive grocery chains, which, again, like a big problem with this. And the reason they're able to do that is not enough competition. So they're able to raise prices and not be worried that, you know, another retailer is going to lower the prices, which is how the whole system is supposed to work. But because these massive corporations got so much power, they can now just kind of fix things. Yep. So a lot of places are picking it up, but it's like not really mainstream. Like Business Insider picked up the story.
Starting point is 00:23:55 Bloomberg. This is weird. Bloomberg, but not the Washington Post, which absolutely mocked Kamalaris for suggesting corporate greed played a significant role in inflation which is not like you're getting that from some like far left extremist person just being like yeah i'm pretty sure they're going up because they're making a ton of money like no yeah no and then i just i just searched their website uh they there's nothing like where they're headlining that this executive like they have a headline like that's referencing what this Kroger executive mentioned during this testimony. But hey, it's cherry picked.
Starting point is 00:24:33 It's just a tiny little cherry. Trying to make them look back. I don't know what you guys are talking about, but I'm going to continue hiding eggs under my mattress. Okay. Cause that's where the gold is. Always look under the mattress ignore the sulfur smell yeah it's pretty sulfuric i would say but like the wild part is too i was like searching like the news search function on google this like is it only jacobin it's like not even dude
Starting point is 00:25:00 barstool sports bar even barstool sports i want to just read something from Barstool Sports. Barstool. Barstool Sports. I want to just read something from Barstool Sports about this. Okay. They're talking about this guy, Andy Groff, who's the Kroger Price guy. He said, he spilled the beans during an FTC hearing. His internal email, a masterpiece of corporate honesty, revealed their strategy. Pass through our inflation to customers. Translation, let's squeeze those poor fucking plebs for every penny we can. The American way.
Starting point is 00:25:34 Kroger's defense? Oh, that email was cherry picked, they say. Their decades-long business model is all about lowering prices. Okay, Mother Teresa. This is what's written in the handbook. That's right barstool sports this isn't barstools dave port noise at the end they were like and bitches got titties just to like yeah exactly that's why i should be allowed to sexually harass my co-workers now check out the nasty 10 nastiest strip clubs in Bogota, Colombia. Where the cost of the buffet is too high.
Starting point is 00:26:08 Yeah, right. They go on and says, quote, this revelation isn't just about Kroger. It's a symptom of a larger disease plaguing corporate America. Companies across the board have been posting record profits while consumers struggle with sky-high inflation.
Starting point is 00:26:21 Remember those, quote, supply chain issues we kept hearing about? Sure, they played a role, but let's be honest. Some prices were elevated simply because businesses knew high inflation uh remember those quote supply chain issues we kept hearing about sure they played a role but let's be honest some prices were elevated simply because businesses knew they could get away with it it's the american way right profit over people this is in barstool sports comrade you know how like climate change has made like like seattle is like having less rain than la but like la is having more and like everything's shifting. That's what it feels like with media.
Starting point is 00:26:48 Like remember when teen Vogue was like doing hard hitting pieces and we were like, wait, we forgot to pay attention to teen Vogue. Like all of the world has gone so upside down that all of the so-called like hard hitting journalists are doing the dumbest shit. So now like Barstool sports has to step up to fill that need. Yeah, I'm like, I'm a little, I was a little curious about this because it's like, who is like, who's writing this?
Starting point is 00:27:13 And I found the author's Twitter feed. And it does not strike me as someone who is out here with their like critiques of capitalism. Like there's another paragraph says and even this is all this is capitalism after all you and your work is worth what somebody's willing to pay and but then like their twitter feed is like kamala misinformation rfk video quotes have been like well this is weird this is an interesting take about russia and then like weird stuff again that's where i got the strip club stuff it was a video about strip clubs in columbia and i'm like what and then also george old george carlin stand
Starting point is 00:27:51 up about class consciousness so i'm wondering if this person got like rat like quasi radicalized because at the bottom of this barstool sports article is a george carlin clip yeah the illusion of choice so it feels like a dude who may have been on the barstool wagon caught some carlin got some class consciousness got momentarily radicalized and then went back to the regularly scheduled programming like this is the hottest pole vaulter in the pac-10 i mean the political world has been caught has been talking about republican like barstool republicans for a long time now being right. You know, people who are like, I define myself as masculine and therefore I hate Democrats and I love Republicans because Dave Portnoy says things that make me laugh sometimes. Right. But but like I didn't realize that that included economic populism. I don't think it does, generally.
Starting point is 00:28:49 I'm just, yeah. I want to know more about whom, if this is just cobbled together with AI, they're using some guy's name to attribute it to it, or if this is just kind of, or maybe I'm not reading enough Barstool and I'm realizing i do think it's i i think things like that are super believable because i do think that like now more
Starting point is 00:29:10 than ever people's beliefs are in like a blender and it's more of a grab bag like you'll find people who are really like socially like liberal who are anti-vaxxers or you know like that's where it started but now it's like it you really, if you're out in the dating scene, you have to ask like all of the questions. Right, right, right. Because at any point could someone be like, yeah, this is, this is normal. This is normal. Sound the alarm, sound the alarm.
Starting point is 00:29:39 Right, right, right. Because people are like that with like just the most random, random beliefs. Like it's no longer like, okay, like this party believes this and this other party believes this. Right. Like kind of a general divide. Sure. It's like you could be insane and like all sorts of things. I think there's also like this other thing too, where regardless of maybe what you're like sort of, you know, registered voting political beliefs are that the world you interact
Starting point is 00:30:06 with a world where like your observations are like why the fuck is all this shit so expensive and they're making money and just on your own through just existing you kind of arrive at this conclusion too even though it might be sort of right yeah even though you're like i thought you're supposed to be like one of these free market like conservative type people but at the end you're like no i i write for barstool and it's expensive so this is kind of fucked up but anyway here are the top strip clubs in bogota it's like how that like there was and that article is really good by the way that you can it is really good it is really good yeah like they they go deep they dive yeah it's actually about a universal health care no um there was there was actually like somebody in like indiana
Starting point is 00:30:44 or something like i remember like listening to all these interviews during the last election cycle about how people are like pro Trump, but they actually do believe in the tenets of universal healthcare, but they hate, they like don't want Obamacare. understand necessarily like the labels or the the so-called theory like they're not like marxists you know what i mean but they do they do still have that feeling that you were describing i'm like something isn't right here and like we should all be able to afford food and rent but i don't want to call it it'd be funny i like the end it really is like sincerely guys like i don't know about you guys but it's like i clock in for a job or like they take the work that I do and they get rich off of it and I just feel so disconnected I just want to own the means whatever I'm creating you know it's just odd that I feel so disconnected and isolated from it as a working person ah whatever anyway here are the top clubs in Bogota I think we should all rise up and and break down unions like no you were so close dude yeah you got off the exit kill man you would you kill right oh okay like a carnivore or like somebody a worker who's trying to yeah it's just
Starting point is 00:31:57 wild that there's a policy position that's so popular on both sides that neither major party will openly agree to take and when one does like with kamala harris's you know very economic policy it's pretty tame and it gets absolutely destroyed by mainstream media outlets for being like extremist and unrealistic and she's not a real adult. Right, right, right. Sorry, miss. We're adulting here. We're three economists. Anyways, let's talk about phones in school.
Starting point is 00:32:35 I guess I didn't realize that kids were on their phones in classes as much as they are. There's this episode of the daily today that is just i i didn't realize like they're they're saying like people came back from the pandemic and they were just like everybody's like on their phones they got so used to interacting with each other and school via screens so like now that's just like impossible to take away. And now they're trying to institute these bans, but there's like mixed messaging on how popular that is or how successful or even feasible it is. We talked a few weeks back about the fact that the most posh prep school in London has banned smartphones and given students dumb phones instead they're like those phones with bubble
Starting point is 00:33:25 gum in them from when we were kids exactly yeah it doesn't even work gum everywhere yeah and i can't call my mom yeah that was the thing that they were fighting against when i was in school was gum chewing that was all i had to contend with. This is a type of friends I had. My science teacher had to impose a Magic the Gathering tax because so many of my friends were playing it and she also knew how to play it. So she would take, she was like, if I see those cards out, I'm going to take your best cards.
Starting point is 00:33:58 And she did. That's amazing. I'm going to take your best cards. Yeah, she was like really good at magic the gathering so she was she just building her sets building the ultimate hand holy shit yeah ours was just like playing like drug wars on like ti-83 like that was like the biggest distraction we had at the time but yeah it is it is funny though too like jack both when you said that, both you and I were like, damn, like, kids are, like, on their phones. Like, as if we couldn't conceive a world where that was even possible.
Starting point is 00:34:31 We're like, it used to be, you get in big trouble for chewing gum. Yeah. I'm enjoying watching you to continue parenting. Yeah. We're like, kids, phones, they don't seem to like those but i mean they like them too i don't know so the daily episode lands in a place in between being like we get why they're banning it but we don't have the data to support whether this ban is good or bad it really feels like i don't know how how are you not just taking the commons like i mean come on we we know it's
Starting point is 00:35:05 fucking bad for kids like the anecdotal evidence includes watching kids walk around like zombies watch it like seeing their mental health deteriorate like in this generation the way they react like addicts when you take away take away their phone the fact that the people who design the phones and the software don't allow their kids to use the shit, everything about the software being designed to make money and surveil and manipulate their behavior. And nothing has to do with like any, anything that's good for them. And the detail they use to question whether it's bad is like, but there are these like learning applications on phones and we don't know if those are like canceling out all the other shit and it's
Starting point is 00:35:50 like right okay here's a compromise that i think will be really good i think sure you take away the kids phones whatever but in every class there's the the most like the funniest kid gets to keep their phone just so that they get to be the racist teacher monitor and like pull it out anytime the teacher is doing right you know what i mean i can't lose those tiktoks where the teacher just like goes off and you're like are we living in the 50s what it's funny too like those teachers like someone was videotaping that yeah yeah but they're with us being like they're allowed to have phones in class oh i It's funny too, those teachers are like, someone was videotaping that? Yeah. They're with us being like, they're allowed to have phones in class? Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:36:34 I didn't see them use a crank and put a sheet over their head. Sorry, what I meant to say about the trail of tears, it wasn't that. You're like, whoa, whoa, whoa, easy, easy, easy. Some people do have tears of laughter. I'm just saying it's possible. It's possible. It's possible. But this is happening as we just got new evidence that phones are listening to smartphone microphones and using AI to capture real-time intent data. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:59 This felt like a thing we would talk about a lot early on in the show. Yeah. this felt like a thing we would talk about a lot early on in the show like i've just been like our phones were like i think our phones are listening to us how come a thing i've never searched for talked about but never even interacted with anything in my browsing history i'm suddenly being served ads for this thing and because miles we recorded the show in person and had out loud conversations yes about what we were going to cover on the show yes and then as we were like putting the doc together we would be like weird now it's like serving me a ad for lawnmowers even though like i was randomly talking about lawnmowers in the office miles Miles is only obsessed with like Casper and
Starting point is 00:37:46 and he's like, why do I keep getting ads for that? That even though that's all I ever wanted. Yeah, I love Casper mattresses or loved. But like, you know, even like when you would search, right, like all the time, I remember we'd be like, this, this can't be and like all the articles you'd get when you searched for like the question of like, are our phones listening to us? There was some techie breakdown about how like algorithms figure out that you're in proximity to someone that you're friends with and they know you are via Facebook. And therefore it you it may be relevant to you. So that's why the ad will show up or whatever. But even then, I'm like, okay, that seemed feasible. At least it was feasible enough that I was like, all right, that, that could, that totally
Starting point is 00:38:28 could be. And then we kind of moved on. But then this leak came out from Cox Media Group and there was a pitch deck that they were- Brian Cox's Media Group. Brian Cox. Yes, exactly. Fuck off.
Starting point is 00:38:41 Fuck off. Fuck off Media Group. Yes, exactly. Fuck off. Fuck off. Fuck off, media group. So in this leaked pitch deck to prospective customers, and they were one of Facebook's marketing partners, although now, like after this,
Starting point is 00:38:54 Meta and a few other companies have began to distance themselves from Cox. It talked about how it listens to users' smartphone microphones and advertises to them accordingly. The TV and radio news giant cox media group claims that its so-called quote active listening software uses ai to quote capture real-time intent data by listening to our conversations that's why i'm always like oh my god you know what i could really go for right now is health care or like lower gas. Right.
Starting point is 00:39:27 Or it's just sunny. It's like, hey, man, come through to mobile where it's way expensive. But we heard you need gas. Sorry. I don't know what else to tell you. And then it goes on, quote, advertisers can pair this voice data with behavioral data to target in-market consumers. That's what the deck said.
Starting point is 00:39:43 That all sounds perfectly non-sinister to me. At some point, the technology is going to be like, girl, dump him. You know, he's been visiting a Rite Aid that's way out of the way from y'all, right? I don't know what for, but based on what I'm seeing from this map view, there's a
Starting point is 00:39:59 corner of the parking lot where it's not visible to cameras or people on the street. Anyway, I don't know. Let me check that out. Our FBI agent's like, really really he's been dming the fbi just uses this software to just find people that's how they found bin laden actually it wasn't even the cia it was just this facebook app man come on nobody likes volleyball and whitney houston this much except for bin laden we got him, the pacer. So then, like, apparently this is the third time in the last year that Cox has gotten media attention for their active listening feature. They also deleted a blog, Cox Media Group, they deleted a blog post from their own website from last year that was talking about active listening.
Starting point is 00:40:43 And you can see it through the Internet Archive. Thank God god it said there's one section like is it legal you know is active listening like this is their active listening faq is active listening legal that is so answer are we doing war crimes yeah right oh wow is selling uh human organs that you've procured outside of you know normal channels illegal? Well, allow us to answer that. This says, quote, we know what you're thinking. Is this even legal? It's so crazy.
Starting point is 00:41:14 So funny. There's no, he said, the short answer is yes. It is legal for phones and devices to listen to you. When a new app download or update prompts consumers with a multi-page terms of use agreement somewhere in the fine print, active listening is often included. And you're like, oh, holy shit.
Starting point is 00:41:36 Okay. That's what you're agreeing to in there. Yeah, you could become widowed. By the way, I just want to say, it's not your fault. That's the thing that's unspoken. We all like for a long time we're like yeah we just agree to this shit who cares like what are we gonna do read it but like kind of being like ha ha ha we're idiots no it's impossible to live life without agreeing to that shit like or yeah unless you're like fuck these apps that's like when the when disney tried to to invalidate that lady's lawsuit by being like, well, you watched the TV.
Starting point is 00:42:08 You got Disney Plus, right? Oh, well, well, well, asshole. Look who doesn't read the fine print because you gave up your right to. You thought we couldn't kill you? The plus stands for negative rights. Right. Yeah. That's so funny.
Starting point is 00:42:22 Also, like really fucked up with them to call it active listening after everything i learned in school about how important active listening is yeah right they're doing a woke is up you guys very smart they're therapy speaking their way through surveillance states well they've been active listening in all those classrooms so they heard the teachers teaching kids that active listening is good so that's how they got the idea they're like yeah you're just you're just sitting there like on your phone and the phone's like oh that's nice you're like what the fuck what the fuck they're like i hear you i see you get over here i've got a new idea what the fuck but yeah so these are the people that the daily episode is like we don't it's too soon to tell
Starting point is 00:43:06 but i don't know it just feels feels like it's not too soon to tell if having smartphones in school is better than not having them in school i just don't yeah and i'm sure hey i know there are people who are educators that listen to this show i feel like even people who i know who are teachers and stuff they always talk about how how much of a distraction it is. And depending on the school, you have policies where they're like, just it's like lightly discouraging or it's like a huge problem if your phone comes out. But it just feels like a thing where it's like if you if if it's an emergency there, there are ways for you to be contacted at school yeah no no for sure and it's probably you know enforced in a really fucked up way where like the teachers being the front line are just forced to deal with kids who are addicted to their phone hey try and get these guys to cold turkey heroin
Starting point is 00:43:58 in your yeah exactly in your in your 80 minute class You guys are acting like the students are the problem when I'm sure the teachers are like, please don't make me give up my phone. They're like, please, yeah, no, we shouldn't have phones in classrooms, but they should all be in my drawer. I'm on a candy crush streak, okay? Hey, someone hooked me up with some credits. You can transfer them. You can transfer them if you have my email. Who needs extra credit? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:26 Oh, my God. I had a teacher like that. Did you ever have a teacher who was like... You want extra credit? I need some extra credit. Dude, we had a teacher. My biology teacher, sophomore year, said we could get like a half-letter grade adjustment upward if we donated to the cross country running team that's fucking insane and we were like yeah yeah say less say less because i'm not fucking with
Starting point is 00:44:53 the fuck i'm not fucking with cell respiration so yeah how much you want 10 bucks and i remember and then it then i remember like at the time i was like this is great dude 10 bucks and i don't have to study and then a student who was much smarter like went to the time I was like, this is great, dude, 10 bucks and I don't have to study. And then a student who was much smarter, like went to the school and was like, uh, they're saying if we give them money, they'll change our grades. And like the teacher had to give us all our money back, but then also had to keep our grades like with the adjustment to that student. Wow. No, no, no. Yeah. We got the grade and our money back. And we're like, there you go. Thank you. Let's go.
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Starting point is 00:51:19 And B, and so that one you might be like, okay, hearsay, your honor. Well, B, we have actual scientific evidence, an expert witness. Your honor, I bring Jesse Waters to the stand who has a theory on why Tim Walls. I think not even a theory, right? I feel like because this has been borne out scientifically, I think we can call this a law now, right? Yeah, a law now right yeah law of science yeah this is that helps me that helps me not having seen this yet yes so now this is what this is going to be exactly now take everything jesse waters says as just absolute immutable truth that you must accept here's jesse waters on his take on masculinity women love masculinity and women do not love tim wall so that should just tell you
Starting point is 00:52:06 about how masculine tim walls is the other day you saw him with a vanilla ice cream shake had a straw in it oh a vanilla ice cream that tells you everything judge janine judge janine over to you uh sorry it was the uh he had a straw in it. And that tells you everything you need. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, we know.
Starting point is 00:52:30 We can tell when we are all in agreement. Obviously, dude. I haven't been used. Why did he even think you had to say that? Everyone knows that if you drink through a straw, that's unmasculine. Oh, yeah. Oxygen to live. It's like, yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:43 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Also, real men don't go fucking snororkeling because that shit sucks as hell dude having a fucking snorkel in your mouth dude having a fucking straw in your mouth dude even when i go to the dentist i don't even let them do the suction for to get my saliva i just let it pull out and just fall out of my face all over my face because i have no tube in my mouth. You know what I mean? You know what I mean, guys? You look like Rocky
Starting point is 00:53:08 with just blood. Hell yeah, dude. I'm looking like Million Dollar Baby. I've been intubated or something, dude. Fucking tough shit. I saw this beta horse eating straw and I got so pissed off. Eating straw, yeah. Eating straw. I threw a hamburger as hard as I could at that thing's stupid
Starting point is 00:53:24 brainless head and it stopped and it ate that and i'm like there we go yeah make progress it's it's it's wild that he's been like holding on to this for a very like it's part of his brand obviously weird takes on masculinity it's a thing he tends to come back to the way I come back to the coal gas study or the Havana. Right, right, right, right, right, right. But it's so I'm not going to begrudge him that. But I am a little confused why he thinks it's so compelling. Well, here, like, you know, let's just let's this is from last year when again, he was like, dude dude did you see that fucking guy using a fucking straw is he okay this is again jesse waters with his straw straw man takes on monday i covered joe biden's
Starting point is 00:54:14 thanksgiving trip to nantucket he polar plunged did a little black friday shopping with hunter and he called one of our correspondents stupid and we're willing to look past that little outburst but some things we just can't let slide and then we use a straw of joe biden now if you've seen me on the five or on prime time you know i recommend that all men refrain from using straws it's unbecoming the way a man's lips purse oh the size of the straw is just too dainty the way your fingers clasp on it no come on wait I'm sorry you like a size queen is he like a size queen
Starting point is 00:54:49 I want to wrap my I want stretch marks on my mouth when I sip from a straw not some little puny thing you know what I mean I drink through PCP pipe what is it called I'm smoking out of a PCP pipe is what I, or what is it called? I'm smoking out of a PC.
Starting point is 00:55:06 Yeah. Whoops. This is by the way, we've had to edit all the other times. Blake has accidentally brought up PCC pipes in this episode. So, so many and used. Um,
Starting point is 00:55:18 yeah. And, and used on the show. No, I like to drink out of a gutter. I like to remove gutters off my house and then drink. Yeah. Through them.
Starting point is 00:55:30 I guess we'll, I'll, we'll, we'll we'll let him continue uh there's a little bit on the end of this right jack you're saying as he continues to talk about this okay he also has like some some soup takes okay straws are for women and little kids but apparently this is controversial so then we showed jimmy kimmel who's making fun of him men should never suck anything through a straw jimmy you know i don't apologize that along with the straws and others met one of my many tenants and i'm sure trump would agree that wasn't a good look he's better than that and as you've heard me say it's not just straws jimmy soup is another problem area men shouldn't eat soup in public again you're pursing your lips in anticipation okay we got
Starting point is 00:56:18 a stock photo of something this guy soup you lean your head, trying not to spill it. Come on. It's like a balancing act. What? Soup isn't even filling. It's like a balancing act. Gymnastics. Sometimes you have to blow on it if it's too hot. It's too hot. It's not.
Starting point is 00:56:33 Dude, I. What? What happened in Jesse Waters' life? You know what I mean? Where you end up so, like, so in your head with your, like, homophobic shit where you're like, dude, don't fucking, like, put a tube with your like homophobic shit where you're like dude don't fucking like put a tube near your mouth or something and then you gotta blow on something dude and like men should be like fully reclined laying down eating with their hands that's the only way to
Starting point is 00:56:55 eat otherwise you know i don't know you look a little only manly way to taking calories is have grapes fed to you while you're being fanned. Otherwise, starve to death. Yeah, with peacock feathers. I mean, based on what we know about Tucker, his predecessor, one would have to suspect that Jesse Waters' dad got cucked by a straw man? No, by a straw.
Starting point is 00:57:19 A straw salesman. A soup guy? I don't know. The soup, people don't even purse their lips to eat soup as far as I know. Is he talking about blowing on something that's hot? Yeah, it would just burn your mouth. Again, it doesn't make any sense. The thing that, for me, resonated, because I do agree with some of what he's saying,
Starting point is 00:57:39 you know, more than anything, is, like, you know how, like, when you're a kid and you take shit from, like, TV and movies and movies and you kind of like bring that into your personality like most kids thought they were ace of ventura at some point yeah or like you're like i talked out of my ass all literally before and now it's only figuratively but but you know what i mean and like you're kind of like oh that's that thing that character said i'm gonna take that on in my life as a philosophy but you're like 12 this guy is doing it like in his 40s because i don't know if you remember the film uh crazy stupid love like ryan gosling's cool guy character tells the nerdy steve carell character in that film to knock it off with
Starting point is 00:58:19 using a straw because it looks like you're sucking on a little dick oh i mean that's he's just like stealing yeah i think i think i think he saw that and it was like dude this ryan got this ryan this is my whole shit right here sickest dude i've ever fucking seen and if his rule is like you don't sip fucking anything out of a straw to be a man that's just one of jesse's laws baby it is what that idiot only used it for one line. I can stretch this out for years. I don't have to ever stop.
Starting point is 00:58:51 Really, Jesse? No straws? Yeah. I'll tell you why. You gotta purse your lips. You gotta drink the water. It's unbecoming. Especially not of a president. So yeah. What you got to do is freeze the soup and lick it like a block of a popsicle.
Starting point is 00:59:11 That's how men eat soup. Just lap it up. You know what I mean? Like a dog. Yes. Like a male dog. Yeah. Poor guy.
Starting point is 00:59:22 Tough man dog. Yeah. That is, that has to be haunting to have a movie character's voice ringing through your head like and be like oh my god i'm doing the thing ryan gosling's character said to not do in that rom-com that most people kind of remember yeah i wonder if this is like one of his writers is like stealing from that and he's just like confidently like, this is good stuff. Right, right, right. We're killing it.
Starting point is 00:59:47 More stuff like that. Yeah, that's it. It's also like Donald Trump has like talked about the fact that he, because he's a germaphobe, will not like drink anything, not through a straw, including like if he's at a black tie event, will only drink through a straw because he doesn't trust the glasses to be clear and to the point where like in the culture
Starting point is 01:00:09 wars they were hawking their like full pvc pipe straws that they were putting out like in response to like oh everything's a paper straw or like not plastic anymore buy your trump maga straws it's a big part of the brand but anyway it doesn't matter because nothing is consistent with their outrage. It's just, they just say whatever. And I'm sorry. The soup thing kind of fucked me up because my mother-in-law for a long time has been complimenting me on how much I like soup because I love Korean soups. It is a great thing about you. It's probably one of the only good things.
Starting point is 01:00:39 It's the only reason you come back on the show, Blake. It's because of his love of soup. Yeah. And thank you. you come back on the show like yeah it's because of his love of soup yeah yeah and thank you and but then recently was like you know most men don't like soups when she was like telling me about soups and she was like so that's why we think it's like so nice that you like soups and yeah now now i don't eat soup because i feel like you can't you know makes me look jack i made your mother i made it made your favorite soup, put it on a plate for me.
Starting point is 01:01:07 Yeah, plate that. Let's plate that, please. Yeah. How are you going to? Don't worry about it. Put it in a rocks glass. Oh, yeah, it burns. It's going all the side of my face.
Starting point is 01:01:14 It doesn't bother me. But I got to have it hot. I'm not going to blow on it and purse my lips. No. Wait, but so she's, was the implication there that soup is truly not a man's food? I think that is a thing in Korean culture, maybe? That it's like, not, or that men are like, soup is too easy for you to make, make me something that's not soup. Or she's a big Jesse Waters fan.
Starting point is 01:01:41 Huge. I mean, I should mention that. She's like, oh, you want me to get you a straw for your soup jack you're like what because you're a real man aren't you yeah yeah yeah 70 percent of what she says about me is in korean within your shot of me and i don't speak korean so she entirely could be like jesus christ she's like wow she's like, I wanted more for you as my daughter. But hey, you know what? It is what it is, huh? It's a lot of thumbs down. She loves you, babe. Off and around you.
Starting point is 01:02:09 Yeah. Getting behind me and giving a thumbs down to everyone else in the room. Doing a little straw motion. Straw motion. Yeah. What's that? Oh, nothing, Jack. Your soup is ready.
Starting point is 01:02:22 All right. Should we look at some Halloween costumes? Oh, boy. It's Halloween costume season already, even though it is 111 degrees in Los Angeles, which would melt most Halloween costumes, which are made out of. Yeah. Yeah. Basically, rough polymers. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:40 Candle wax. All right. So it has arrived in stores earlier than ever this year. Target, Home Depot and Lowe's rolled out their Halloween collections back in July. And Spirit Halloween has already opened over a thousand stores in the U.S. with more to come. Amazingly, Spirit Halloween's worst costume is not the inflatable Skibbity toilet, but it's pretty it's pretty bad. Do they have a mask on the Skibbity toilet, but it's pretty bad. Do they have a mask on the skibbity toilet? No, that's what that guy looks like. Because the face is that of a cartoon character.
Starting point is 01:03:15 It's strange that they felt because the head of the skibbity toilet is just a dude with dark hair. It looks like Elon Musk got ran over by a steamroller. You know what I mean? I flattened it fully out yeah yeah yeah yeah god your kids aren't asking for a skibbity toilet uh yeah probably my nephews but not my kids that's what they're getting yeah you can be that or a man who drinks soup with a straw. Make your choice, kids. But probably the worst costume we've seen thus far is a Chipotle-themed costume. They're just unicolor bodysuits that are meant to represent a napkin fork, water cup, burrito, and to-go bag.
Starting point is 01:04:01 And for some reason, all except the burrito cover your entire face yeah why does the burrito get a face hole and everyone else he was the only handsome one i think is why the others are so ugly the rest of the guys are the skibbity toilet guy underneath the mask so they're like exactly yeah let's not do it really just looks like like even if I saw them walking down the street together, side by side, I would be like, Chipotle branded sleep paralysis demon. Like, why? I couldn't have put it together because, yeah, none of them really look like the thing. Like, the skin tightness of it feels strange. It feels like it doesn't help in any way right
Starting point is 01:04:47 well like what's offensive i get that it's against morals it's revealing it's um yeah it's not it's indecent i think this is what yeah i was trying to say it should look like old-timey bathing costumes very baggy down to the ankles yeah yeah it's like one of those things too like where i get that on the internet people were joking like with like a really nondescript thing and we're like i'm a chipotle fork and you're just wearing an all black bodysuit and like that's what they're sort of being like oh man the internet loved that let's make let's do literally that because we're brands and we're so savvy with like internet culture that they're like hey well, Hey, now we did it. You guys like it. And everyone like this in the midst of people being like,
Starting point is 01:05:27 man, Chipotle is fucking falling off. Yeah. They're like, well, you think we've fallen off? Well, we've been investing money and we're going to do nothing.
Starting point is 01:05:38 Yeah. We're going to do this with it. Yeah. There was a like meme where, you know, somebody created a fake spirit Halloween costume bag that said Chipotle fork and was just a black bodysuit. And they were like, wait a minute, we have an idea. No, you don't.
Starting point is 01:05:55 No, you don't. No, you don't. That's not an idea. That's not what an idea is. Yeah, and it's not funny when you do it. It's funny because someone said this dumb thing is now a Chipotle fork, rather than being like, guess what? This Chipotle fork is now a dumb thing.
Starting point is 01:06:10 And you're like, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, see? The sequence is all off. It's all off. Yeah, I think the burrito got a breathing hole because its suit appears to be made of, like, a real unbreathable plastic. Right, right. It's a safety.
Starting point is 01:06:31 Yeah, yeah. You don't want someone to pass away dressed as a Chipotle burrito. Good Lord. I second that. I mean, this year, I feel like if we're talking Chipotle, the costume would have been about those assholes who were filming Chipotle workers. They'd be like, Don't get cheap on me with the carnitas, all right? Like the costume would have been about like those assholes who were like filming Chipotle workers. You'd be like,
Starting point is 01:06:49 don't get cheap on me with the carnitas. All right. You know what I mean? Like that felt like the more of the popular culture thing about Chipotle that was brewing more than, Hey, I can be a bag. Yeah. Well, I guess we know what miles is going to be for Halloween.
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