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Hello, the internet, and welcome to this episode of the Weekly Zeitgeist.
These are some of our favorite segments from this week,
all edited together into one nonstop infotainment laughstravaganza.
So without further ado, here is the weekly zeitgeist.
So a lot going down at the end of last week in the world of our president, our fearless
leader, President Donald Trump.
Michael Cohen has flipped, which I thought we already knew that, but he has just been voluntarily just giving it up to Mueller.
Yeah, basically giving up all.
I mean, here's the thing.
Everyone was assuming when he took the plea deal that they're like, OK, maybe this means there will be cooperation.
But we didn't know.
And, yeah, I think the assumption was obviously he wouldn't get a plea deal unless he was cooperating.
But, yeah, now we find out it's been voluntarily.
deal unless he was cooperating. But yeah, now we find out it's been voluntarily. And he's been talking to Mueller about all kinds of Trump stuff, including financial business dealings with Russia,
collusion with Russia, to surrogates and like their participation in influencing the outcome
of the election. And also whether or not if Trump offered him or anyone else a pardon.
And then another thing, which is juicy, too, is that
they're also asking him about like sort of the inner workings of the Trump Foundation and the
charity and how they like what kind of shady shit is going on there. And he's got a lot of details.
He's got a lot of know-how. So that seems to be something that would worry the president.
Another thing that's interesting, though, too, is that, you know, like in the Steele dossier,
they talked about how Michael Cohen had gone to gone to prague to talk with like russians about how to like hide money to payments to
hackers and stuff uh and he always denied it he was like i was in new york or whatever
right look at here's my here's my passport just shows you the cover of it right he's like see
and then so the thing is like i know mcclatchy or someone was reporting that Mueller did have evidence that Cohen was actually in Prague.
And if that is true and he's talking to Mueller about that, too, and there's any even a shred of truth to what the allegations are in the Steele dossier,
that would mean that he would probably be a party to conversations about how to make deniable payments to Russian actors for the hacking.
So, I don't know.
We'll see. We live in a fantasy world until
shit actually happens.
There's also weird stuff with Daud.
They think that Daud
was offering to pay for
Manafort's legal
fees as a way of trying
to keep people away
from facts.
Yeah.
Right.
Because they were like being, they were hard pressed for money.
We all know Paul Manafort was broke daddy.
Right.
And Rick Gates also, like no one in this entire investigation has the fucking wallet for all
the legal fees.
Right.
And yeah, John Dowd was sort of being like, hey, can we get some money, man?
Can we funnel some money out of the, like a.
The White House defense?
Yeah.
Or and then he was even like then when that failed because the ethics people were like, absolutely not.
What the fuck?
What do you think this is?
Then he was like, hey, man, like basically had a hat out and was like, maybe we can put 25K together real quick to give the Manafort immediately because apparently they urgently need it.
And then when that thing got shut down
rick gates played guilty the next day yeah so clearly they knew they cannot afford to have
these people give any kind of like information that would begin connecting dots to the point
where yeah we're even seeing john dowd go on the extra mile and doing a little kickstarter why
wouldn't trump do it he's a billionaire he should just pay his own, wait, he's not a billionaire and he's cheap as fuck.
Treason is so expensive. I know. I thought it would be so much cheaper.
Well, you know. Yeah, he just thought it's very easy. Just make some Venmo payments and put a couple emojis that have nothing to do with hacking. And you're good. You're in the clear. see how Trump's base reacts to the revelations around his like tax documents because I right I
do think that he's going to be much less wealthy than than they think dude what would be the amount
that would be totally emperors naked like the clothes have been stripped we see you
and your mushroom penis I don't know like under million probably. I like the idea that he's only worth like $3 million.
That would be amazing.
Like he's so bad at his money.
And I can already see the people making arguments where they go,
being a billionaire is not about how much money you have.
Right.
Like saying shit where you're just like, how could this?
It's like he lied about even having it.
Yeah, but it costs money to have money.
Yeah.
What?
It's more about like what you're worth. Right. Yeah, and on paper money to have money. Yeah. What? It's more about what you're worth.
Yeah, and on paper, you ain't worth shit.
They will bend time and space to make it.
Oh, 100%.
Yeah, that's true.
He's like a mental billionaire.
Yeah, exactly.
Oh, yeah, very much like a power of now kind of dude.
I know this secret.
Not too many Robins said some shit like that.
I know this secret.
Not too many Robins said some shit like that.
Yeah. Oh, man.
So Rosenstein is also back in the news with his weak, weak chin.
He might have the weakest chin of all.
It would be impossible to uppercut him.
Yeah.
Your hand would just slide off.
Somehow, yeah.
It's like a shark snout.
So at the time that we're recording this,
the New York Times is reporting that Rosenstein offered to wear a wire
to record Trump to help invoke the 25th Amendment.
He didn't go through with it,
but he was basically hoping to use the evidence to, I think they said,
convince Pence and Sessions to invoke the 25th Amendment.
Like gather evidence that this dude is just.
They act like they don't work with him every day.
They know that shit anyway.
He's like, yo, have you heard what he said?
It's like, I'm here.
What do you mean?
But maybe they were just like, nah, nah, nah, he's good. And he was like, what? I just sat in a meeting with him
where he didn't seem
to know why we have a defense department.
He used Star Wars toys
to explain the Space Force.
Right.
But now, so he came out
at the end of last week
and basically said that
none of this is true.
All of my dealings with the president have made it clear that we don't need the 25th Amendment,
and then other people said that he only brought that up sarcastically.
So we were thinking maybe this is being floated by Trump people
in order to give them justification to fire Rosenstein?
Yeah, I mean, I think there are so many ways to cut this up and look at it. I mean, on one hand,
you know that this idea came out of Rod Rosenstein writing that memo that ultimately had Comey fired
and that threw him for a loop. And then he was like, oh, I didn't realize that was going to
happen. But then you don't know if he was totally ignorant that that would be the case. But also,
You don't know if he was totally ignorant that that would be the case.
But also, you know that as we're talking right now, Michael Cohen has been talking to Robert Mueller.
He has a lot of information.
It seems like Paul Manafort probably has a lot of information that we're starting to see like the finisher moves that Trump is trying to use now.
And he really needs a pretext to fire Rod Rosenosenstein if he's gonna kneecap muller right so i think it's fair to assume that trump is going to maybe do some crazy shit to try and derail it in some way
because everybody who knows where the bodies are buried are talking to muller for immunity or just
because like alan weisselberg the guy who's the CFO who people say is the real payload.
The dude who knows the money.
Yeah, he knows how the money moves.
Right.
Like Cardi B.
He's been the CFO of the Trump organization since the 70s.
So it's like, yeah. Stumpf might be positing that maybe this is someone in DOJ trying to provoke a rash response from Trump to create a constitutional crisis.
And then it would be clear to get rid of Trump.
I don't know. There's so many ways to look at it, because even when you look at the we are the White House resistance anonymous op ed.
Right. That could have been seen as I believe that there are people doing whatever they can to try and keep him from, you know, indulging his worst
instincts. But you could also see that as, you know, furthering the narrative that there is this
deep state conspiracy against Trump. And this Rosenstein thing could also serve that narrative
too, where it's like, I mean, look at these guys. These guys are wearing wires trying to set me up.
I mean, the game is rigged. So I don't know. They're the people that Trump picked.
Right. Not the deep state. That's his staff. Yeah, yeah, no, exactly. But I mean, the game is rigged. So I don't know. They're the people that Trump picked. Right. Not the deep state.
That's his staff.
Yeah, yeah.
No, exactly.
But I mean, but those are but that's the if you are a Fox News acolyte and that's all you're consuming, then that helps your confirmation bias just that much more.
Right.
But that there was talk that they might be declassifying just like everything.
Right.
And right.
A ton of documents were talking about on last week, yeah, that would have exposed
intel gathering methods or sources.
And now Trump is backing away from that?
Yeah, because a bunch of allies were like,
hey, motherfucker, there's shit in there
that we also need.
This wouldn't just affect the US.
This affects many intelligence communities
and just this is reckless.
But that was, I guess, a previous possible attempt This infects many intelligence communities and just this is reckless.
But that was, I guess, a previous possible attempt to blow this up.
So that was another indicator that we had last week that maybe he's just trying to do drastic things.
And would have been desperate because, like we were saying, it was reeking of the memo gate thing when it was the memo was supposed to absolve him of all guilt and show that Carter Page actually wasn't a Russian asset.
Spoiler alert.
They've been watching him for years.
Right.
But like, yeah, I think.
Right.
Like we're saying, he's just thrashing now.
Yeah.
conservatives never want to acknowledge when they're putting together all these vast conspiracies is these are all people hired by trump who are conservatives themselves yeah like who agree with
what he wants to do yeah who campaigned with him and like like jeff sessions is not the swamp that's
his yeah that's him at the very least having some modicum of respect for the law you know not
everybody's following it like us and i'm sure there's people who are like, man, fuck Jeff Sessions.
And it's like they don't know that – like you don't know how it works.
They don't know that he gave him that job.
Right.
Well, yeah.
And I think it's – again, it's just – it all depends on whatever narrative at that time is going to help obscure the president's guilt.
And they're trying basically in everything but the kitchen sink attack here.
Yeah.
And I think Trump's one true genius gift is knowing how to like basically be like a middle school mean girl, like a messy bitch who like knows how to get drama going around them just nonstop.
And so and then he knows how to play that in the media.
That's what he's good at.
So he knows how to just create headlines that are going to at least play to his base and
make his base think what he wants them to think.
So there's a new book by Kathleen Jameson Hall that is profiled by Jay Mayer in a new New Yorker article where she basically says that Kathleen Jameson Hall is a Penn professor who basically has devoted her whole life to following and studying elections.
And her main specialty prior to this past election was focusing on how the debates swung elections in
various directions.
And she's never had a political bias.
She's,
you know,
just 100% everyone.
Jay Mayer gets quotes from all of our colleagues and they're like,
ah,
she's just such a hard ass.
And so all about the numbers that you can't fuck around with her.
She honestly has no personality.
You can't say anything as a joke because she's
just going to be like, no, that's not true. She's just like a machine of truth. And so the article
starts out by pointing out that both sides have either said they don't think Russia swung it,
or we laugh at the idea that they did. We don't. But I think people on the right are like, oh, it was Putin, right? Or at least discounting the idea that it's knowable in any way that Russia interferes.
How could we ever know what changed things? And so this academic has spent the last year
looking into the numbers, the very specific details of what Russia did. And she makes the point that, yes,
you can actually say, like, based on a preponderance of evidence, obviously, we don't have,
you know, in a situation like this, you can't go and look at someone's brain and say, well,
this is clear. But based on- Or ask like the GRU in Russia, it's like, so is this what you were
thinking with this troll attack?
Yeah, exactly.
But the effect was that they had access to all this different information.
They had Hillary Clinton's strategic roadmap, basically.
And they went about suppressing different points that they were scared of.
This is the Russians and the Trump administration.
that they were scared of. This is the Russians and the Trump administration.
One of their biggest weak points was that voters
in three battleground states, Michigan, Wisconsin,
and Pennsylvania, that she ended up losing.
There was an unusually high proportion of residents
whose demographic and voting profiles identified them
as likely Democrats, but Hillary defectors,
people who were so unhappy with her that they
were considering voting for a third party candidate.
And so the Clinton campaign had identified those people and the Russians stole that information
and it was available to everyone, including the Trump campaign and the Trump campaign
and the Russians specifically went after those people.
And just made sure they stayed home.
Yeah.
And tried to either get them to stay home or vote for a third party candidate.
Wait.
So, and this information about those voters in Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania,
that was information that they know was stolen from the Clinton campaign?
Yes.
They do know that.
And that came out when Mueller announced the indictment of all those Russians back in July.
Right.
Oh, that was named in that indictment?
That was specifically named in that.
Holy shit.
As information that they had access to.
But that's just one aspect of her argument.
But I found that particularly convincing.
Yeah.
And most of her argument is just, you know,
pointing out how every election in the modern era has gone up to this point is
the elections have similar resources,
similar roadmaps, and similar weaknesses, and they cancel each other out for the most part.
And in this case, you just had this extra actor who was pushing on the side of the Trump campaign,
and things were definitely more even than I think people realized heading into the election.
Everyone was like, oh, Trump has no chance. And it turns out he did. But with the help of Russia and with Russia,
you know, with those leaked emails, for instance, like one of the questions she asks is like,
imagine if it were even and Russia had leaked both the Clinton cache of emails and the equivalent on
the Trump side, what would that have looked like?
And that would have exposed like the Stormy Daniels stuff. It would have exposed like-
Trump Tower meeting.
Trump Tower meeting. All sorts of crazy shit that would have had a huge impact on an election that
ended up coming down to a few hundred thousand votes. So it is a really compelling argument.
We'll link off to the article about the book.
What was the other thing you were saying about James Comey, like right after he came out and said, OK, we looked into Hillary and there's nothing but also kind of.
Right. So there was that press conference where Comey came out and he basically said right before the election.
Right. Yeah. It was the October.
It was the earlier one, the press conference that happened over the summer where Comey said, we're not going to pursue this investigation any further.
But and then went just in on Clinton and like how careless her actions were and just like really said a lot of negative shit about her.
And that was shown to be pretty impactful.
shit about her. And that was shown to be pretty impactful. Like both Comey press conferences,
or Comey announcements that were sort of unprecedented, nobody expected,
like the head of the FBI to behave in that way, were impactful on, you know, how many people voted, who they voted for. You know, Nate Silver specifically does say that that last Comey email,
you can like look at the numbers and see
that that basically swung the election. But this makes the argument that James Comey was acting
on the basis of a forged Russian document. Basically, Russian hackers created this document
where it seemed like Clinton was colluding with Loretta Lynch and like Loretta Lynch was like I'm gonna go easy on you
Hill and like they had this back and forth and it was actually a like forgery a shitty Russian
forgery but that made Comey worried that once it came out that he had stopped this election that
this other evidence that this other evidence would come out and it would look like the Clinton campaign was in cahoots with the Department of Justice.
So he like went extra hard to make it seem offset that.
Yeah.
Wait, how does the author know that James Comey even interacted with this forged document?
I forget exactly what that line of reasoning is, but it seemed.
Oh, OK.
I think it's saying because they were also targeting the FBI to try and give them as much misinformation as well.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Wow.
Okay.
Well, look, we're here, baby.
2018.
Yeah.
It's just interesting because, I mean...
Have you started canvassing yet?
No, I'm about to
because I was just reading an article
about the VAN,
the Voter Activation Network,
which is what has most of, like,
any voter outreach you do,
that their mobile app is what... most of any voter outreach you do,
that their mobile app is what... You know, Canvassers now, back in the day, used to be clipboard and just striking numbers
off the list.
They have an app, right?
The increase in mobile users of that has increased 230% since the last midterms.
Oh, wow.
So I was reading that as a dimension of voter enthusiasm.
I mean, most likely, I'll probably phone bank into districts that are more swing districts
because I'm, like, locally,
I'm not too concerned.
I've been really active
because this year I was like,
I have to, like, do something.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So I've been doing a bunch
of canvassing
and voter registration,
and there's, like,
five swing districts
within an hour of L.A.,
so you have a lot to choose from.
But I've actually been
really surprised
the number of Republican doors
I've knocked on in which they've answered.
And we've had like oddly very thoughtful like conversations about how concerned they are.
I don't know if that's how it bears out in statistics nationwide.
But like I haven't spoken to a Republican in California yet that isn't like at the very least put off if not terrified by Trump.
Right.
Which is encouraging to hear.
You want people on that side because they're still getting what they want.
They get justices that will ban abortion.
They get tax breaks during economic booms.
Like they're getting what they want.
And so to hear them still say this guy is terrifying to me is, I think, super important.
Yeah.
Well, I think California probably has a different brand of Republican.
I'm sure if you went knocking on doors in Mississippi or Alabama and those Republicans.
But yeah, I think it's true.
There's clearly a group of concerned Republicans who are like, this is a whole other game.
Absolutely.
But don't forget, you don't have to win over everyone to win back the White House and win
the House in 2018.
Just bring the reasonable people into the light.
Exactly.
And I think it's an important point that actually going face-to-face with people, they're forced to encounter your position as that of an actual human being with like a soul.
Like a Twitter avatar.
Right.
And also liberals are the worst about voting of every demographic.
Right.
Like you don't have to send volunteers, college students into farm country to remind farmers
to vote.
They just do it.
Right.
Right.
But you have to go into cities and suburbs and hammer Democrats to vote.
Yeah.
Convinced.
Time and time again.
Otherwise you just, you literally won't Right. Yeah. Convinced. Time and time again. Otherwise, you just, you literally won't win.
Yeah.
I did a fundraiser show for this candidate running in the Midwest, and they said, they
were like, you know, the way to win my district is to either swing Republican women in the
suburbs or to get the city in my district to vote.
Just to turn up, yeah.
And she's like, I'm not holding my breath on the city.
I'm focused on the suburbs, the women in the suburbs.
Hey, all you urban youths, voting is lit. We got it.
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The president of the United States was at the U.N.
speaking to the U General Assembly and just
kind of blabbed on about all kinds of stuff that he likes to talk about, like North Korea,
oil prices, his solution to the migrant crisis. And I think he literally suggested that the other
people on the UN General Assembly make their countries great again.
He's basically like, why do they want to leave? Make it so they don't want to leave anyway.
Right.
And then you'll solve the crisis.
Right.
Because it's just that easy.
Yeah.
But yeah, that was an odd couple of moments, that whole speech. And he got laughed at pretty quickly.
Yeah. Yeah. I think within a minute or two they people were
just laughing at him well they uh i think they laughed because he said we've done the we've done
the we've done the best work of any of basically any administration in history right right right
and it's like you're a he's literally like a fucking willy wonka character yeah no he talks
like what's that character's name?
Like Prudius or like the little fat guy.
Adolphus.
Adolphus.
Is that his name?
Yeah.
Adolphus.
That's Trump.
Just like being like, look at me.
We did it.
And they were like, you idiot.
Just chocolate all over his face.
He's like, dude, get the fuck out of here.
Laughing at him.
Laughing.
Listen to, we have a clip of it just so you can kind of, it's funny.
Have you seen the clip?
Yeah.
There's a moment when right after he says it
He's processing
He's like, they hate me
But anyway, let's listen to the whole clip
My administration has accomplished
More than almost any administration
In the history of our country
America's
So true
So true.
Didn't expect that reaction, but that's okay.
That's amazing.
It's kind of, it was the one time I was kind of like,
oh, he showed a human side for a second, where I thought normally he would just be like,
yep, and that's what I said.
Right.
Applause break.
Now moving on. But you could tell he was even like, all right, yeah that's what I said. Right. Applause break. Now moving on.
But you could tell he was even like, eh.
All right, yeah, it kind of took an L on that one.
Wow.
That didn't go well.
Oh, so you guys read the news, huh?
You guys read newspapers?
Didn't realize it was an informed audience.
There's also that part of his personality where he loves to talk a big game on Twitter
and when people aren't around, but he doesn't like to fire people.
He doesn't like to be disliked by people.
So if he's faced with people laughing in his face,
which is, by the way, his biggest nightmare.
That's like textbook narcissistic personality disorder.
That is your nightmare.
Your nightmare is people laughing at you.
And then if you go through his speeches
and just him talking in general, it's like, they're all laughing at us. Don't let them laugh at you. And then if you go through his speeches and just him talking in general,
it's like, they're all laughing at us.
Don't let them laugh at us.
Mexico is laughing at us.
Oh, right.
And then I think four years ago he tweeted,
he's like, the president is a laughing stock.
And you're like, wow, you foresaw your own future.
He said this country is,
people are laughing at our country.
It's like, no, dude, they're laughing at you.
Yeah, now it's him.
Yeah.
It was, yeah, just that moment though,
I could kind of tell, like I said, he's in his bubble,
and he really thought he could say some shit like that,
and people would just be like, uh-huh.
Yeah, you have done it.
Talk that shit, Donald.
Because he's not at a backyard rally or like a –
Right.
But he's actually in front of people, and he's literally so dumb
that he has to fill the dead air by going, so true.
So true.
While they laugh.
So true.
Okay, that didn't go.
It's like the most, truly,
like his brain can't even come up with anything more,
slightly more sophisticated.
So true.
I wonder if Stephen Miller wrote that,
and then backstage he goes, you burned me, Miller.
Yeah, right.
I look like a goddamn fool out there.
Right.
I was wondering,
I was trying to think of the speechwriter writing that and thinking
it was like a defiant statement.
Yes.
And then Trump gets it out there and is just like, yeah, everybody's going to agree with
this.
This is just a known fact that we're the best administration.
It's like you're at the United Nations.
You're not at a rally.
You're at the United Nations.
Right.
And you're shitting on the term globalism in front of the United Nations, and you're shitting on the term globalism in front of the United Nations,
you think people are going to take you seriously when you say,
we've done better than almost any administration.
Then who are you referencing as who's done better than you?
George Washington.
George Washington.
George Washington.
Such an idiot.
Such a blithering idiot.
Oh, right.
Well, you know.
The other part, too, was when President Rouhani of Iran was also just taking shots when he went up there.
And he's like, oh, this guy's basically talking some Nazi shit now.
And he's like, I don't need to talk to him.
He's like, if he wants to negotiate, he's like, all his other friends, China, France, they still want to fuck with us.
Because the other countries that are still in the Iran deal are like, no, it's working.
And we're not going to let old President Porcini penis fuck the whole thing up.
So, triple P.
Porcini cock.
Yeah, they're holding steady, and it's sort of like one of these moments where he's like, you know, Rouhani was like, well, and all your friends like me.
So, what are you going to do?
Just all his worst nightmares.
Yeah, I got laughed at.
All right, guys, let's talk about the shit show we just watched,
Kavanaugh D-Day, as we have it labeled on our document for the day.
So, yeah, I don't know.
First impressions, what are you guys' thoughts?
Well, I guess for people, let's just give you a recap
if somehow you've been living under a fucking rock.
So today was a day that Brett Kavanaugh and Christine Blasey Ford were both going to give testimony to the Senate Judiciary Committee where they would talk about her allegations or not.
And, you know, like we talked about yesterday's episode, the GOP so bravely chose a woman prosecutor to cross-examine Dr. Ford so they would avoid really having any clips of them that
are usable in an attack ad really is what that was because there are no optics of them being like,
or what did you think? Chuck Grassley, I'm sorry, off top. Yo, my man, we have to have term limits.
Like this guy is like even Pat, there's a lot of older people in the Senate where you're like,
husks. Yeah, right. Man husks that are just withering in the wind, and you're like, we have moved on, and you
have stayed fixed.
Like cartoon versions of old men.
Yeah.
They're like the exaggerated cartoon version of-
I could have swore- Chuck Grassley came off like a dude arguing whether or not he's allowed
to take his leftovers from an all-you-can-eat buffet.
Right.
He was like, well, I paid for this, your Salisbury steak, so I should be able to take it home
and this bread.
Right.
Like, it was every now and then he would interject with that.
And he could not, despite the fact that they had it set up so that he would not, you know,
interact in any negative way with women, he could not stop interrupting women.
It was just nonstop.
There was a lot of, I mean, not mean not that this is like not a shock and if anyone is shocked
at people interrupting women in uh any space at any point at this point it's like fucking grow up
there's no more if i and i was i was thinking about this today of like uh very rarely like
people are not really expressing that much surprise at this happening now.
Now it's just happening.
Right.
And you make of it what you do.
Something that bothered me about the coverage of this story that we were all watching it, the CNN live feed.
And, again, it's like the 24-news-hour cycle is treated like fucking espn a lot of the time
but that felt like especially on display today where there was one point uh towards the end
of the hearing where they like took a five minute break and they cut to like a fucking espn table
full of commentators who were all talking like you could have literally switched out Kavanaugh and Ford or even like men and women
with any two sports teams and it was indistinguishable.
And it was just, it's so weird and conflicting
where it's like it's this incredibly important moment,
but it's also being treated and at some point played for by people
I fundamentally agree with as entertainment.
And, you know, like the even in, you know, the big theatrical court, you know, people
save their headliners for last.
And, you know, you see Ted Cruz comes out at the very end and and Booker comes out at
the very end and just the whole fucking production of it.
Yeah.
And that was something about Christine Blase plaza ford's um testimony that i found
very compelling is that uh i mean aside from all the brave horrendous shit she has to relive
again for this fucking national stage just acknowledging that like yeah no one wants to
do this and to an extent she's being asked to perform for better or
worse for everybody and and drudge up all this fucking trauma for everybody that she says at
the beginning like i don't want to do this i don't want to be here and for and and like you know she
she doesn't want to perform for people because to some extent, every person in that fucking room is performing something.
And some of them are performing something I agree with.
Some of them aren't.
But all of them are performing.
Lindsey Graham got his performance.
Oh, my God.
Everyone was grandstanding.
She was incredibly compelling and very, very human.
It was like an island of humanity in the middle of all
this grandstanding and you know dinner net dinner net all right it's time for the main event like
everybody was just really treating it like you know and then they would get the uh you know faux
solemnity and be like this is very serious issue but like it was definitely treated like the
fucking super bowl of well yeah yeah and even like the brevity like serious issue, but like it was definitely treated like the fucking Super Bowl of politics.
Yeah, and even like the brevity like pundits offer,
like suddenly like they have a moment to laugh.
It's still kind of shitty
when you're really looking at what this situation is.
And I feel like even,
I remember as I watch it
and like trying to sort of to deflect my own discomfort
and like embarrassment as a man in a society
where this is how women are treated
or just sort of being like, yeah, like this is fucking shitty.
I feel like watching it.
I just like this.
It seems like the worst way to actually mediate something like this.
But again, it was clearly like this partisan dogfight thing where everyone had their combatant
in there and whatever the collateral damage to these people didn't matter because they
like they're playing
another game too outside of this which is
for the Republicans when the
culture war stacked the Supreme
Court and the Democrats is just like let's
just try and block as much as the shit we can
and like I guess these these two people
happen to be the the conduits for that
to all go down in but yeah it was
a it was yeah it was one of those things too like
even as you talk about the commentary,
people would go in like,
her performance was riveting.
Her performance was huge.
A lot.
His performance, yeah.
And there was one soundbite that was like,
well, as we know historically,
the women always lose.
And I'm like,
you could put in a fucking football team name there.
Right, right.
What are you?
Wait, who said that?
Someone on fucking CNN said that.
The women always lose?
The women.
Always lose.
The Rams or the Bears.
Like, it's just
fucking ridiculous
the way these stories
are covered.
I mean,
that's not the huge point here,
but it was something
that stuck out to me,
especially on viewing this today.
And even, like, you know,
like, us
and the whole world gathered around it like
it's a sports game it's it's to a degree it's like you it's so important and we all need to
be watching but it's also disturbing the way that we all consume it and the and the i don't know
yeah well it's like a cultural super bowl sunday where everyone was like new people were
like taking time out of the day to watch it because it's a very
important moment what Dr.
Ford did is very important
and but you think too like it
also we were reading stories about people
who Nick was
telling us about like you know women
who were watching and brought to tears hearing
her testimony but they were Trump
supporters and after they kind of wiped their tears
and were like yeah but you know what?
I still don't think, I think Kavanaugh should still be confirmed.
Like it was, people were still compartmentalizing what was going on to service this like culture
war, this zero sum game where either the Democrats win or the Republicans win and that's it.
That's all.
They're only looking to add to that prism.
That's a lot of the unfortunate part about it is no matter what happened today, people's
minds were made up going into it. And unfortunately, i think we've all grown so cynical to know that
like it's probably not going to change anything yeah uh i hope it does but but i think if we were
all to place bets right now i would assume his confirmation is going to go through unfortunately
i wrote last night just as i was like thinking about what was coming up and also we were coming off of that trump press conference where he just like did trump jazz like
but like really unhinged and didn't really seem to be coherent for two hours i was like thinking
about how people responded and you clearly saw like everybody who i know was like, what the fuck? This guy is clearly unhinged and a lunatic.
But the other side was like, this is why we elected him.
And I do, I really do think that we're at this point now where it's, it's not just that
like people are, I think we tend to think that the other side sees what we see and they're
just like willfully ignoring it or like bluffing
and just pretending like something else happened but i honestly think they legit like see something
different their brain is absorbing different information well it is a double-edged sword
though because like a lot of the a lot of the post conference commentary was talking about how
if their performances for lack of a better word
were flipped and he was really composed and polite and she would have come out belligerent
and argumentative and combative people would have been talking about how horrible it was that she
was that way while a lot of people were also saying the republicans were relieved at the fact
that he came out guns blazing and took a really strong stance and so it's like exactly what they're
saying they liked about the way he approached it
is exactly what she would have been blamed for had she had taken on that kind of tone.
Oh, yeah.
It's like Brett Kavanaugh is like too emotional to be elected to this Supreme Court.
Look at this hysterical man.
But no one would ever say that.
And that's the other takeaway is I think he's guilty.
But regardless of whether he's found guilty or innocent of this, I think the lack of composure he showed at this press conference is an entirely different, less important discussion on why he might not be fit for the Supreme Court. get it wrong but uh there was one person who brought it to his attention you know with that
like you know applying it to his own job of like if you were looking at this situation objectively
and you think what's happening is okay you're a bad judge yeah like you want the best evidence
right yeah i think it was richard blumenthal yeah yes it was blumenthal and and it was like that was
one of the more cogent points i thought made in this entire thing to him at least.
It's like, you know, you can deny, deny, deny all you want, but like you're not even doing good at the job you're supposed to be elected to.
Yeah, that moment and when Durbin was calling out about like basically saying just open yourself up to the FBI investigation.
You're saying you're willing to clear your good name and take any necessary measures to do that.
Will you let on the FBI investigation?
That's when he was like as clumsily stumbling over his words and evading questions.
More at that point than any other point.
Yeah, it seems like the two, like each, the Democrats and the Republicans had their strategy.
And for the Republicans, it was just hammer this point in that Dianne Feinstein sat on this allegation to the zero hour and then suddenly sprung it on us.
At the victim's request.
Yeah, at the zero hour.
That's not fair.
Like, what's that about?
That's irrelevant.
And they started the day out, like, giving her timeline from her perspective.
Right, exactly.
From Dr. Blasey Ford's perspective.
And it was, you know, she didn't want to come for it.
from Dr. Blasney Ford's perspective.
And it was, you know, she didn't want to come for it.
She knew it was going to ruin her life,
but she eventually did because, you know,
she felt like it was her civic duty.
Miley Cyrus's little sister is apparently something that I know exists now.
Yeah.
So she was dating, who's that dude who has teeth
like he still sucks his thumb?
Oh, Lil Xan? Lil Xan. Yeah. So she was dating him. Diego. Dating, who's that dude who has teeth like he still sucks his thumb?
Lil Xan?
Lil Xan.
Yeah.
So she was dating him.
Diego.
Still dating him, maybe.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't even care anymore.
No, they broke up, according to a super producer, Ana Hosnia.
Lil Xan.
Let me just search.
Lil Xan, Noah Cyrus.
Oh, Lil Xan.
Oh, yeah, no.
Oh, so this is the deal.
She's got like a whole merch thing she was doing with like pizza slime, I guess.
And there was like sweats that say like I'm like crying or sad or whatever.
And she bottled her tears up. It's a result of her breakup with Lil Xan.
And it was so bad that she bottled her tears.
The wild thing is, so when you look on the website, they're
selling for a vial of tears, and I'll
tell you the amount in a second. It says,
this is approximately 12 tears made by
Noah Cyrus as a result of sadness.
Human digestion of these tears is not
suggested, because tears are generally pretty
salty, and that would just be super
fucking weird if you drank someone else's tears.
It would be. You know what the cost is?
$12,000.
Wait. For a vial of this
person's fucking tears.
$12,000 per vial?
Are people buying? I think there's only one vial, maybe.
Oh, okay, got it. Well, then,
in that case. In that case. I mean, yeah.
But if there are 12 tears, that means
$1,000 for these teardrop tears?
Yeah, $1,000 per tear.
I mean, I don't even know.
I mean, I think it's a cool PR move.
Look, I mean, we're talking about you now.
Yeah, yeah.
And I didn't know who the fuck you were at all.
And I'm still, she does very much look like Miley Cyrus.
I think someone's going to do it.
That's expensive.
But I mean, there's someone out there who's like.
Well, yeah, it's like a flash sale where it's only available for like 48 hours.
Yeah, it's something absurd. But yeah, you can get it sale where it's only available for like 48 hours yeah
so it's something absurd uh but yeah you can get and it's a in an eyedropper so you can maybe you
could oh i don't think you're that sad if you're bottling your tear like like if you're actually
you know out of control crying you're not going to be thinking about selling your tears unless
you're so it's a very calculated prone to crying're like, get my eye funnel. Yeah.
Like how do you even collect the tears?
I mean,
is it one of those like dental suction tubes?
Are we going with that?
This is actually the tears?
Let's for a moment.
Not just some water?
Let's for a moment feel like I'm getting my $12,000.
Well,
it said don't taste these cause you're going to taste them and go,
this is fucking water.
Yeah.
This isn't tear.
This is LaCroix.
Yeah.
You fuck.
Yeah. But how would you, I don't understand, like, do you cry over a plate or something?
I don't know.
If anyone knows how to, like, bottle your tears. You let your eyes well up, then you get a dropper.
And just suck them up?
And you suck them up.
That's how I would bottle my tears.
Okay.
Would you give a video of you bottling it?
Because that's how I need to know.
I'm going to sell my tears.
When this podcast drops, I'm going to sell.
I'm sure someone will buy it, but it has to be a reasonable price,
like maybe $1,400.
$1,400, yeah.
Discount tears.
You don't want to get those Cyrus, Lil Xan tears.
Yeah, know where your tears are coming from, y'all.
So Pizza Slam is a store.
You said that, like I should know what Pizza Slam is.
Yeah, I always see them on Instagram,
like just doing a bunch of pizza stuff.
Like they have,
they have a mug that's just as Drake tears.
It's like, you know.
Yeah, they have a t-shirt that's,
sorry, I'm trash.
Hell yeah.
Hell yeah, dude.
I think, oh,
I think that's part of the Noah Cyrus line.
This is,
but not even sorry,
S-R-Y.
Yeah, S-R-Y.
I am.
Super Millennial Gen Z shorthand.
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In keeping with our look forward at the movie,
A Star is Born.
We're just tremendously excited here at the Daily Zeitgeist Office.
I think the trailer has given us
just the greatest joy from the moment
Lady Gaga sings that one time.
That's the most, for me personally,
I'm like, yo, I just want to see that part.
And also, but now that there's more information coming out,
I'm like, now I'm more interested
because I know at one point he's like, his voice is supposed to be kind of like Sam Elliott.
And then now we find out that his vibe is based or inspired by Eddie Vedder from Pearl Jam.
And there's like this new interview that came out where Bradley Cooper told Yahoo, he was like, you know, him and Eddie Vedder became really good friends.
And Vedder really helped him to like develop his character of this, like, you know, this Jackson main character and all the nuances of being a rock star.
But he said one thing that was really interesting that when he told Vedder,
he's like, I want to do redo a star is born that this is like what he says.
Yeah.
Eddie thought it was crazy that I was going to do this movie.
And he was like, what bro don't do that.
And he said that inspired him.
He's like, well, fuck you, Eddie Vedder. I'm gonna do this shit.
That's a direct quote. Eddie Vedder was like,
bro. What? Bro? Bradley
Cooper just has that, I'm
feeling myself. I'm feeling myself.
So I'm just going over and over in his head.
Wait, can Bradley Cooper actually sing? Do we even
know? Yeah, I think so. I think that's him.
I think,
talk about overrated. I think he's hella overrated. that's him. I think, talk about overrated.
I think he's hella overrated.
He's everywhere.
He's everywhere, and he's on the top sexiest man list, and I'm like, that guy?
Yeah.
Well, because he has the sort of traditionally acceptable, unoffensive, attractive male face.
I don't even think that.
I don't think he's objectively handsome.
I'm just like- Who are you putting on that list then? Swap
somebody out.
Michael Fassbender. Oh.
Oh shit.
Yeah.
Yes.
Sturmbannfuhrer.
Sturmbannfuhrer yeah.
Oh he's so delightful.
The story about how Bradley Cooper
directed this movie because it was the first time
Clint directed a movie, was 48, I think is how old he is.
Clint Eastwood?
Yeah.
He was like, yeah, well, Clint told me the first time he directed a movie.
Yeah, Clint also talked to a fucking empty chair on stage to a bunch of people at the
RNC.
Then there's the story about Lady Gaga's audition where she walked into the room and Bradley Cooper was there and he just handed her a makeup wipe.
What?
And then she wiped off her face and then he said, there you are.
Oh, God.
See, none of this is making me like Bradley Cooper anymore.
This guy sounds like the biggest pretentious douche.
There you are.
Lady Gaga.
But just like it's on some next level like feeling himself shit that like I feel like I just want to see this movie just to, I don't know.
I'm excited.
Yeah, his sense of self is so inflated.
Yeah.
It could be funny.
Well, I mean, the critics seem to like it a lot.
So we'll see. But it would be funny you. Well, I mean, the critics seem to like it a lot, so we'll see.
But it would be funny
you go and you're like,
this is a mess.
Right.
Like no one told him
to pump the brakes on this.
Right.
Yeah.
Just fully commit.
There you are,
Miss Germanada.
Or whatever her real name is.
Hey,
I just wanted to see you again.
What's that?
Hey, what?
I just wanted to look at you again.
Yeah.
I wanted to see you
but that mascara was getting in the way
right calm down there's some good memes with the hey and then she turns yeah
there's a lot of panel memes and then there was one video that I saw people
just muting the clip and going over and over and just muting it and putting
their own words and Bradley hey what you gonna vent me on me for this ride that's a good one
um well
hey wanna get
some Thai
yeah exactly
there's a great
Thai place down
the block
hey you think
it's unhealthy
I live in this
car
speaking of
our parents
baby boomers
are now
just as likely
to smoke weed
as teens
of course they
are
I think they always were now they're just telling the truth in those surveys.
Right, as the stigma lessens over time.
Yeah.
It's odd because, yeah, they were showing that 50 and 60-somethings, just as likely as 12 to 17-year-olds.
12 to 17?
Yeah.
I mean, that was a prime weed smoke in years.
I don't know, at least in California.
That was a smoking weed at 12.
What are you taking the I smoking weed at 12.
What are you taking the edge off of at 12, really?
Right.
Puberty?
You know what I mean?
I wasn't really taking the first time I smoked weed, it wasn't to take the edge off shit.
It was more like, what's a new brain thing I can do?
What's a new experience?
Yeah, I got fucked up and not really fucked up, but purely out of boredom.
It was just like, yeah, whoa, I just hyperventilated a little bit, and now I feel different.
Here, let me hold my neck weird. I actually kind of want to talk to a high 12-year-old and see what are their thoughts.
Very boring.
I'm sure you could freak the shit out of a high 12-year-old.
Oh, yeah.
You're like, oh, let me tell you the truth, young man.
And they're like, what?
Just put all kinds of weird shit in their head.
It's interesting.
Put all kinds of weird shit in their head.
It's interesting.
If you go to drugabuse.com, they have all these charts of just like the average age and percentage of drug use between the different generations.
They break it up between millennials, Gen X, baby boomers, and then the greatest generation.
And we're all kind of clustered together with alcohol.
Like everybody, it goes up to 80 around your 21st
birthday 80 of people use it but marijuana cocaine heroin stimulants sedatives tranquilizers
hallucinogens and psychotherapeutics baby boomers are all like orders of magnitude higher than
anybody else it's just like that time was a wild time.
If you map wealth on that same curve too,
you'd buy the same thing
because you ain't fucking 16 and a half cocaine money.
Right.
You know what I mean?
You're a fucking 60-year-old wheeler-dealer business person
or a young person in Hollywood.
I mean, that's an issue I want to hear.
Why is cocaine so overpriced?
I think it is clearly the most expensive one, isn't it?
It's pretty expensive.
Of all the drugs?
Yeah, maybe.
Yeah, like literally kilogram for kilogram for sure.
Let's get those prices down.
Come on now.
Come on, Ecuador.
Come on, Bolivia.
Cut us a deal on some base.
Well, it's just a total black market.
The drug trade is violent.
Well, it's just a total black market.
The drug trade is violent.
You also need massive amounts of coca leaves to even produce just a little bit of base for cocaine.
And then you got to step on it.
You know what I mean?
Was it cheaper like in the 1800s when it was legal?
I think anything like as it becomes—
Yeah, like as something becomes prohibited and prohibition happens, then it turns into the black market where things have crazy value because it's illegal and there's more risk involved.
Yeah.
But I think it's probably better that cocaine is not just rampantly available anymore. I mean, the market determines how much something costs and people who like cocaine apparently
really like it.
It's got like a very strong niche market.
Yeah.
I'm surprised.
I've heard people get good reviews.
Yeah.
I'm sure a lot of podcasters started off cocaine benders.
Oh, yeah.
Dude, you know we could fucking do a fucking show, dude,
where we're just fucking...
Jack, like, you fucking know facts and shit,
and I fucking worked in politics, dude.
Like, we can fucking say shit,
and people will fucking, like, listen, dog.
Cocaine in particular.
So the highest it goes up, like millennials peak at age 20,
where about 6%, 7% of them are using cocaine.
Baby boomers peaked at around the same age at like 23%.
Whoa.
23% of them were using cocaine.
Yeah, the 80s.
Because they were coming, you know, the 80s were.
No, I think it was the 70s.
Oh, shit. 60s and 70s. Oh, shit.
60s and 70s.
At least that was my...
I wonder if cocaine is different now, like, because weed is better now, and it's, like,
more strong.
I wonder if...
Is cocaine the same as it was in the 70s, or is it...
I think basically...
Probably.
I mean, maybe they've been able to get more purity, but I'd imagine it's around the same
levels, because they always talk about the purity of cocaine, how it's gone down over
time.
But I don't know. That's just something my friends talk about the purity of cocaine has gone down over time. I don't know.
That's just something my friends talk about.
And the medical industrial complex is not studying and strengthening cocaine, whereas weed is cancer medicine.
Yeah, they're doing a lot of research in that.
What's funny, though, too, in the same study about it, they said the oldest age group, though, also saw a steep increase.
So people 65 and older are now using more.
They're more monthly users of marijuana in that age bracket.
And I think as people realize that there are actual uses for it medicinally, that like an older person with any kind of ailment might be like, you should try this for your pain.
Maybe.
Well, it's probably should be a clue that no one is lobbying for medical cocaine.
It's only one drug that people are like, it could be medical.
Right, right, yeah.
There's nothing else that really has a... Yeah, and it's funny, too, because when we always, the conversations around legalization are always like, what about the effects on the youth?
Right.
It's like, what about the kids or whatever?
And that seems pretty steady where it's like, what about the elders?
Right, yeah.
These are the ones who are, you know, like as this article in the Washington Post says,
talk to your grandparents about marijuana before somebody else does.
Yeah.
Did you know Freud?
I think people know that he did cocaine, but it really did fuel the invention of psychotherapy
and like the whole idea of like a talk therapy, which is just like so perfect.
If you've ever been around people on cocaine, they're just nonstop love talking about themselves.
And he was heavily using cocaine, like prescribing it to himself because he thought it helped with his social anxiety,
but was heavily using cocaine when he invented like, now I feel much better after I've talked for like eight hours in a row to somebody so like it really is just cocaine invented that
cocaine is the reason that coca-cola is so popular because you know there were
like a thousand different sodas during that time period and did Pepsi ever one
coconut now Pepsi only came around the 60s 70 70s. Coca-Cola lost all of its cocaine in the early 20th century.
Damn.
If you got that pre-ban cola, let me know.
And yeah, thanks to cocaine, we have the XFL.
There's many things that have come out of it.
So it's not just those things.
It's the world wrestling.
My favorite is Eddie Griffin's joke about Alexander Graham Bell used cocaine.
He's like, of course he did.
And he's like, that's the most coked up idea I've ever heard.
Where he's like, hey, I wish I could talk to somebody that ain't even here.
Like, just pick this up and I'm talking to him.
All right.
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