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Hello, the internet, and welcome to this episode of the weekly Zeitgeist.
this episode of the weekly zeitgeist uh these are some of our favorite segments from this week all edited together into one uh non-stop infotainment laugh stravaganza uh yeah so
without further ado here is the weekly zeitgeist. scam calls i'm like i wanted to talk about it before and then i got this call which i normally would have screened but i picked it up because i was like let's see like maybe this will provide
some additional data oh so this is you were inspired by the podcast to actually pick it up
entertain this call yeah okay and so today uh i said hey guys i i've told you that i've like want
to be put on a list that it like says no call or like
taken off the list or whatever and he said I thought I told you to shut your
mouth bitch and then I do too I like looked at I started like googling
because they said that is bold he said they were from the home center or something.
Yeah, the home center.
And I immediately started Googling, not because I wanted to get them in trouble,
but because I wanted to talk to them further and be like, yo, that is amazing.
That is so funny.
Maybe you should call back and be like, I was actually being helped by someone.
Maybe you can check the logs to see who it was that called me.
I feel like I'm actually interested, but I only want to talk to that guy.
I mean, I get it, man.
Working in a call center is fucking terrible.
I tried it for a second.
It's not good.
But it's funny that you were so sweet.
You're actually trying to be nice, and he's like, I thought I told you, bitch ass.
Shut the fuck up.
Oh, I could use a nice warm glass to shut the hell up.
He thought he was going to neg me into being like, okay, fine. I'll go. Richass, shut the fuck up. Oh, I could use a nice warm glass to shut the hell up. Yeah.
He thought he was going to neg me into being like, okay, fine, I'll go.
I'll pay you. Damn, now that you showed me his boss, I am interested in some cider.
Okay, fine, here's my credit card info.
I guess I could take the existing solar panels off my house and put new ones on.
But do you guys have, do you get the spam calls that are like from the same person over and over again?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
The same entity?
Oh, yeah.
I have the same one.
I never make it far enough to know who they are.
I just hang up immediately and block them.
Yeah.
When I get scam likely shows up, I'm sorry, boop, rejected off the rip.
If the part they get me is when they do it in your native area code.
Yeah.
And then I start thinking, oh, it's someone in the valley. right let me maybe yeah the homie oh yeah and then somebody's like
uh hi are you the homeowner and i'm like off i literally go fuck off and i just hang up but i'm
sure like when you're dealing with that a you're probably being paid shit yeah and then you're
dealing with not people as polite as jack being like i believe i'm on some kind of a list probably
people being like don't fucking call me i'm kind of a list. Probably people being like,
don't fucking call me,
I'm gonna fucking find you type shit.
Right, right.
Also, you work on commission.
Yeah.
Right.
Yeah, exactly.
So probably when you're not making any money,
well, not probably,
when you're not making any money,
you're like so angry.
And then Jack was maybe his last chance
for it to make money that night.
So he was like,
fuck you, you bitch ass.
We should put a GoFund me together for this man i think
we should all find him befriend him make him our hero i think they're like keeping me on the list
as like a prank or something because every time i say the same thing and i so i went and like did
research on what you're supposed to do and they're like don't immediately hang up don't engage with
the telemarketer in any way which big mistake i. I've been being like, I'm like on the fence about this product.
I'm like, are you on the fence about having balls?
I'm right. No, I just say, I don't want to be, don't get irrationally angry. Don't give up mid
conversation and hang up because they'll be like, oh, I believe we were disconnected.
And they said, the only thing you can do is please put me on your do not call list
and can you put me on your do not call list or don't say can you put me on your do not call list
or I don't want to get these calls which maybe I need to say those specific words please put me on
your do not call list those are like the magic words that are supposed to legally like get you
blocked from their list but I have a feeling that they are willfully fucking with me
because I've made my intent very clear.
I would really appreciate it if you put me on the do not call list.
And they're just getting more aggro.
They're like, don't ask us nicely.
Say the magic code word.
They start calling you at three in the morning.
Fuck with you.
Hey, Jack, did you you wake up little biatch super producer nick stump was saying that he had a a telemarketing call that like halfway through the guy started like imitating his accent
and like started like mocking him basically so through the mic you did not hear it but
super producer nick stump said he was started started speaking Spanish to the person on the call.
And then the person started making fun of his Spanish.
Right.
Wow.
Which, by the way, totally deserved.
Yeah.
Nick trying to pull up with his Spanish skills.
I mean, come on.
¿Dónde está biblioteca?
He's like, yo, this is not what that call is. When Nick speaks Spanish, he speaks in the exact same voice as the guy from the Spanish language tapes.
Perdóname, ¿dónde está el biblio?
Unidad tres, etapa dos.
There was this joke.
Man, this is a joke for like three people who I went to high school with, but there was this Spanish language CD in class used to skip.
So it would be like,
Unidad Uno.
E ta ta ta ta ta ta pa dos.
Shout out to Danny and Ben.
Sounds like a sick remix, man.
E ta ta ta ta ta ta pa dos.
If you did not shout remix when that shit happened,
you were not a teenager.
Hit him with the horn, Snake, real quick.
Remix!
Wow.
Double bomb drop.
Committed to it.
We're going to talk about something called modern monetary theory right now, which I didn't know about prior to today.
And I think that is an indicator of me not paying enough attention to the markets, economics.
But yeah, so the idea, MMT is sort of this macroeconomic theory that has proponents that
it's like a weird cross section. It's like AOC, Bernie, and then a lot of like bankers on Wall
Street and like economic theorists, like really Street and economic theorists, really advanced economic theorists, all stand for this theory.
And the idea is basically that the government can spend more than we think.
And the idea that deficits lead to runaway inflation is like it happens if you have an unhealthy economy.
Like it happens if you have an unhealthy economy, but if every dollar you spend is going into making your country a better place to work and produce wealth, then you should spend that dollar, basically.
I think I'm getting that right.
So basically, instead of there being like a balanced ledger that we should all be aiming for when the government is spending money on government programs.
And one of the things that they advocate for is full employment.
Everybody who is capable of employment has a job, essentially.
And so the government should invest until that happens.
A lot of economic theorists look at it like, OK, well, we have to have a balanced ledger.
The government is a household and so right the amount of tax dollars we take in has to equal out to the amount
of dollars that's being spent by the government and mmt advocates basically say no it's actually
the amount of money we spend just can't lead to runaway inflation so like just keep an eye on
inflation and that's the only thing you need to...
The idea that there needs to be a balanced ledger
kind of fundamentally misunderstands
what the government is.
Like how that spend works?
Yeah, because the government is not an economic entity.
The government prints its own money.
That's a fundamental difference.
They can print more money if they want to.
And the only thing that should stop them from printing more money is if they are worried about
inflation. But otherwise, they should just be creating programs and creating money to stimulate
growth. But then so at what point does the deficit actually become a bad thing? Because we just see
it growing and growing. So is this saying, look, don't worry about what the bill looks like because it's being spent correctly?
Yeah, basically.
Well, I wonder if right now we're actually,
that deficit is actually being spent in a way that's beneficial to the country, right?
The theorist Stephanie Kelton said that it's not the deficits don't matter. It's that they're not,
deficits are not a sign of excessive spending
or a forerunner of inflation, but they can be too big.
So it's just like basically changing the yardstick that you use to judge.
Like you shouldn't, once you're not like fully coming up in the black
on the like government ledger, you shouldn't start panicking. It's more using
inflation as the yardstick that you use to measure whether your deficit is getting too big.
I should tell that to my credit card company.
They point to the last seven biggest American depressions or downturns going back 200 years
were all preceded by government surpluses so basically
they're saying that if the government is running a surplus then you're kind of fucking with the
economy because you're not spending enough and you need to actually like spend to create a healthy
society has trump advocated for this theory yet i He has not. I feel like, because, right, this is sort of kind of the way we look at it,
or at least the way the government spends money is like,
every dollar we give in taxes is the budget that the government has to spend money.
When really they're looking at it as like, okay, what's the budget?
This is what we're going to spend.
This is what we got in taxes.
Here's the difference.
Keep it moving.
Right. And that may have been overly simplistic, budget, this is what we're going to spend, this is what we got in taxes, here's the difference, keep it moving.
Right.
And that may have been overly simplistic, but I think that's the thing that stuck out to me the most is this model that we, or I was used to looking at it, because I'm not
an economist or economist.
Right.
As it's pronounced.
As it's pronounced.
Among.
The great magazine.
But that was sort of the model. But this is that modern shit.
Right.
Basically, as long as there's companies and people and actors within the economy there
to absorb the government expenditure and spend the money and use it.
Oh, to keep it moving rather than overwatering a plant whose cup runneth over.
Then you get in inflacione.
That's what you have to look out for.
Yeah, that's what I thought.
I was just on the phone with Paul Krugman this weekend.
That's what we were talking about.
What did Paul say?
Well, and that's what I told when I called Chase Bank.
I was like, look, bro, this deficit I have with y'all is not an indicator of the runaway spending, actually.
And I think we need to change our yardstick for how we look at this.
They still hit you with those overdraft fees though huh uh yeah but you know uh give a
shot i took look i told him this is all fake you know what i mean it's all it's on the ether maybe
but it is true that like sometimes when you get like financial advice even on like a personal
level you know you you like start thinking of that as an absolute until it it doesn't even
serve you anymore like in the beginning people are like when you're starting out they're like
don't have you know don't have a debit card you know when you're really young you're like don't
really do the credit card thing because you're gonna overdraft blah blah blah but then like as
you get older you need to build credit and you do need to have credit cards and you just spend
and pay them off and it actually makes more sense to put everything on a credit card because you get points back and you start like doing all that shit.
But like it's the same thing about like moving the yardstick.
It's like the rules are different once you get to a different stage.
Yeah, and you just can't – just don't spend what you don't have.
Right.
And that's when it gets out of control because like, yeah,
like it took me so long to actually trust myself with a credit card
because I could not – I was just terrible with my finances. sure uh and luckily I just stuck to that because my dad scared the
shit out of me and he was like you will be you will be forever fucked if you just like have a
credit card run away from you especially when I was like 22 yeah spending it on fucking weed and
like yeah and when you signed up for the credit card it was because you wanted to get that like
weed joke t-shirt. Right.
That's what happened to me.
I'm like, well, I got a You Promise coffee mug with this.
I was like, wait a minute.
A Converse all-star logo, but it's Converse all high stars?
It didn't even make sense.
I was like, yeah, I'll get whatever you want.
Whatever you need.
I'll sign my soul away for that shirt.
Soul, like a shoe.
All right.
Herman Cain is back. You're off the podcast.
I'm off the podcast and in the pocket.
Yeah.
Damn.
He's nimble.
What is something you think is overrated?
Overrated.
Yeah.
Oh, my God.
This is really unpopular.
Okay.
I've never told this to anybody.
Uh-oh.
This is the space to do that.
I don't know, you guys.
I don't know.
Okay, that's fine.
We'll find out.
I think we're both about to find out who each other are.
Queer Eye.
Oh, the new Queer Eye?
See what happened.
What?
I mean, I haven't watched the new season.
What?
Jonathan Van Ness is a god. See what happened. What? I mean, I haven't watched the new season. What? No, sorry.
Jonathan Van Ness is a god.
You said save space.
You said save space.
No, to be honest, I'm like, okay.
I mean, it's like any show.
Especially TV.
I don't give a fuck.
I'm not as militant about TV.
I'm star posing.
Yeah, you are.
And I feel your power and I back down.
What do you think about it as overrated?
Okay, it's liberal porn.
Oh, gotcha.
You mean in that sense?
Like the first episode of the third season, right?
Like they're going into like, quote unquote, back country where they're like, you know,
the mindset is supposed to be conservative and like they love guns and blah, blah, blah.
And then they like change her mind and everything.
And it just felt like, oh, OK, if I was like a moderate liberal, then I'd be like, see,
if we do, I'll just meet each other and we change each other's clothes and we change
each other's hair.
It's like progressive wish fulfillment fantasy show.
And I just was like, I don't know you guys.
Yeah.
Well, I think, yeah, I think for you being an activist too, you see a lot more nuance
than simply having these like.
You know what?
You know where it comes from?
It's from being a feminist, Muslim, Iranian, American, bisexual comedian.
Right, right, right.
Dealing with liberal audiences that whenever I'm on stage, they expect that I'm going to
articulate for them all of my difference.
Right.
Transform our relationship.
Uh-huh.
And then we'll all walk away, you know, empirically better humans.
That's why I came.
Exactly.
Change my mind.
Exactly.
Right.
And I'm like, I would also like to talk about dicks and farts and burps and shits and tits and clits.
Rank those all right now.
Number one clit.
And thereafter, you feel like they're after the clapt. Rank those all right now. Number one clit. And thereafter,
you feel like they're after the claptor?
The like, yeah, you say it, sister.
Tell us about Trump.
Right.
Shit like that.
Right.
Yeah.
Exactly.
Oh, right, where the audience
congratulates themselves
for laughing at a joke
from someone who's different than them
and means I'm actually not problematic
or have problematic views.
I see.
I would like narrative agency.
One thing I will give, Jonathan Van Ness, on Instagram, he's been documenting how he's
learning how to figure skate.
Oh, for real?
It's amazing.
From someone who looked like, I used to play hockey, so I could tell when somebody looks
very uncomfortable on skates.
That was him.
And he's slowly making progress.
It's almost like he's just being like, I've always wanted to be a figure skater.
That's amazing.
And he's kind of living his best life.
Yeah.
And you're not saying the people who are on the show are overrated or anything.
You're just saying that maybe the overall structure and its role that it serves in people's lives is a little bit.
Other than that, I love it.
Yeah, I haven't.
Although they just went to Capitol Hill.
And that's where I get it.
I can't stop watching.
Because they were with AOC.
And I was like, oh, here we go.
They're really being like, if you're on the left, we're all in, baby.
But Jonathan Van Ness is working heels in the halls of the Capitol building.
Just got to talk to them once they'll see the errors of their ways.
Joe Biden, Joseph Biden, real briefly said, sorry, you felt that way.
I'm not sorry for anything ever.
Yeah.
He had like a public speaking thing and he kind of made a joke about it up there.
And then afterwards, he for the first time faced journalists being like, hi, we have a question about these people saying you are touchy in the wrong fucking way.
Oh, have you not heard about this?
I've been under a rock.
Okay, good.
Let me get you up to speed.
Tell me.
So a lot of people in the last week, or about three or four people, have come out to talk about their experiences with Joe Biden.
You know, he's just a touchy dude.
He's like hugging women from the back and whispering in their ear.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He does that a lot.
It's just weird.
back and like whispering in their ear and people like it's just weird you know like and a lot of them were like just to be clear i'm not saying he assaulted me in any way but i was made uncomfortable
by the his invasion of my personal space so he's been dealing with this like quote-unquote scandal
but basically being people asking hi joe you know every there's many photos of you sort of looking
like you don't give a fuck about people's personal space do you care to comment on that and first he
was just like you know i i realize social norms are changing and I will do better was the first thing.
But people were like, why don't you say you're sorry?
I hate apologies.
Can you articulate that rather than just sort of defending yourself?
I mean, like, hey, time's changing, man.
The times are wrong, not me.
And then so he had this moment afterwards because a lot of people like his critics and people who are even on the Democratic strategy side are saying, like, he should just like be like, yeah, look, I'm sorry.
I'm invading people's space.
I won't do it anymore.
But he's been doing everything except that.
So this is him answering a question about that.
Do you think you owe these women a direct apology who have come forward so far?
Well, look, the fact of the matter is I made it clear that if I made anyone feel comfortable, I feel badly about that.
That was never my intention, ever, ever, ever.
But there's some women who want to hear directly, I am sorry.
Are you sorry for the way that you made this woman feel?
I'm sorry I didn't understand more.
I'm not sorry for any of my intentions.
I'm not sorry for anything that I have ever done.
I've never been
disrespectful intentionally to a man or a woman. Um, I, you know, it's, that's not the reputation
I had since I was in high school, for God's sake. So, uh, that's not the reputation I've had since
I was in high school. Anyways. Uh, also at a speech on Friday, I believe, he hugged the guy, Lonnie Stevenson, who was introducing him.
And then his opening line or one of his early in the speech, he said, I just want you to know I had permission to hug Lonnie.
And the line drew applause and laughter from the crowd.
Moving on.
Right.
Later, during another point during his speech speech when there were children on stage he
put his arm around a young boy and said by the way he gave me permission to touch him oh boy so
it's like he's overdoing it yeah you know what make a point that people are like too touchy
demanding you know what you know what you know I'm going to inhabit the throne and make a declarative statement as patriarch in this moment. I'm done with apologies. I'm done with apologies. I wish the left, the progressive, the intersectional body, on behalf of the intersectional body, let's stop asking for apologies.
Let's stop asking for apologies.
It's such a red herring.
And it skews the conversation.
And all of a sudden the conversation becomes about these minor missteps and intent instead of establishing new norms.
Right.
And it sucks to hear this because I feel like, and given I've been under a rock, it sucks to hear all this play out because I feel like I hear him saying there are there are new norms and i and i want us to like jump on that and be like yes there are here's how it goes and
here's what we do now right just being so focused on an apology exactly and instead because everyone's
giving pity face and being like but are you gonna say sorry though yeah that one journalist that
that of course sets him up like as a pr person like, yes, you are setting up a messaging route that is going to be like, so then now he's always going to check in to make sure it's okay.
And does he need to make an apology?
And is that what we're about?
No, we're about action.
It's supposed to move this way.
But are we typified and stereotyped as snowflakes that care all about feelings.
Right.
And being patronizing, which I have like an acute ear for as a woman,
like that's the direction it's taking.
It's sort of like we're eating the bait that they're,
the crap bait that they're handing us.
That's a good point.
That's a really good point that like the follow-up there would have been like,
okay, describe what those new norms are.
Exactly.
And what are you going to do? What can other men like you who might not have been like, okay, describe what those new norms are. Exactly. And what are you going to do?
What can other men like you who might not have been familiar with them, what can you do?
What are some guidelines that you can follow?
Let's define this.
But instead it becomes-
Because the argument's like, well, I've been doing this for years.
Right.
I think the argument I'm making is like what you're saying about how it's less about him and more about like what's our goal here.
Right.
In terms of movement.
If we're making this a moment for people to be focused on.
What are we focusing on?
Yeah.
And he did say that in his video thing about saying like, and I realized that that's not cool and I'll be very careful to not be considerate of people's personal space going forward or whatever.
So, I mean, he articulated that, but I think it's when he gets defensive about it,
then you almost feel like, but are you really embracing what you're saying in that sense?
I mean, I imagine he has to be careful.
I don't want to turn into an apologist,
but I wonder how much he has to be cautious as a public figure,
as a person on committees who also has to be aware of what he opens himself up to in terms of a legal battle.
And it like, you know, we can't assume that there are all good people, you know, like people will like that's tricky.
That's careful space that has to be.
I don't know.
Does that make sense?
Wait, what do you mean?
What did you mean by in terms of like legality?
Does that make sense?
Wait, what do you mean?
What did you mean by in terms of legality?
There's a language that if he opens himself up to, then isn't that then a slippery slope?
Because he's articulated some kind of apology that could be construed as an admission of guilt or something. Exactly.
And then people who are not cool could jump in on that and then create a real problem.
Right.
Well, I think, again, no one has actually ever accused him of anything criminal.
Oh, I see.
So that's where it's like, yeah.
And I think most people saw like even what he was doing is like,
you're just doing that shit where you don't get that like motherfuckers don't want it to be fucking,
you know, rub noses and shit.
Got it.
And do stuff like that.
And that's like not a single person
said it was a salter anyway.
They're just like,
yeah,
he's got a problem
with personal space.
There was a journalist
at the Washington Post
like,
yeah,
he fucking grabbed me
by the shoulders
and like put his face
up against mine
and was like,
I didn't like it.
Yeah.
I kind of dig that.
I dig that conversation.
I dig the conversation
that's like,
hey Biden,
you're a close talker.
It's really obnoxious.
Right,
and that's what it's
turning into and I think,
but then it's starting
to play out of sort of like, well, what's wrong with close talking? Right. Everything. Yeah, and it's really right and that's what it's turning into and i think but then it's starting to play out of sort of like what's wrong with close talking right everything yeah and it's
like that's that's why that stuff is so hard to articulate to men without like it getting
super awkward right and i think for him if he apologizes in his mind or something he's admitting
to doing something far worse probably probably the thing that i was worried about right right
but i mean i don't know. Can you give an example?
Like when you say that sort of thing is so hard to articulate to men, like what do you mean by that?
Well, okay.
So for example, for example, there like there was a guy that I used to interview with and
like his favorite thing was to like greet me, take my hand, kiss me on both cheeks.
Okay.
And put his arm around my shoulder and pull me in and i
hated it right but like i he was clearly making an attempt to like you know work with whatever
insecurity that he has around like social like being social with a woman and come over here and
these things were making him feel powerful somehow yeah so that he was like appear with me yeah and like but i didn't like any of it but the easier thing to do is to just like smile and be
like yeah okay and we'll sit down you know it's much harder to be like don't you don't kiss me
on the cheek man because then like you have a whole big conversation that's like well what do
you mean i didn't mean anything by it you know and it like
immediately escalates yeah rather than yeah so then at least when you know you have like a biden
conversation like this you can de-escalate it somehow and be like look it's just one of those
kinds of moments where it's like you're you're being a close talker right now i don't love it
so much it's like you know i don't like that a lot i don't like that a whole lot like and it's like it's so difficult to articulate because it's you know amy schumer
made that joke about grape right like there's that gray area oh that there's like different
micro aggressive versions of sexual assault just as there are you know like and how do you have those
conversations without it escalating into like super awkwardness right because and then take
care of the women who are actually articulating them because the whole reason why we put up with
them is to not have those conversations so we can remain a peer right shit yeah well i think yeah i
think because again even like joe, the defensiveness is like,
I think I'm being accused of something like way worse than what it is when it's not just
sort of being seen as just a practical matter of personal space that like people are sort
of, I don't know.
It seems the way the response has been from even the people who defend him, they act like
he's being accused of something much greater than what it is.
Right.
And even then there's no nuance in their their mind about what a discussion of personal space
is.
Yeah.
It's like, is it a violation of personal space, or is it some just terrible transgression?
Right.
And I think people aren't able to sort of parse through that, or at least his defenders
aren't, because they really are going to bat for him like he's been accused of like being a serial molester or something like that how do you guys navigate
that kind of space i i mean as i move more of my like professional life i don't i i read whatever
the person is giving me so if someone comes up to me that i'm meeting for the first time if they
open their arms for like to like they're a hugger or something then you dive onto the ground then I'll do that oh oh no no I start coughing
uncontrollably or but usually I just offer a hand like a handshake because I just keep it like that
and I'm not I'm I'm also personally like I'm just I don't want to make other people feel
uncomfortable and I also don't have like a desire to just be hugging people all the time either so i'm fine i'm just like hey good
but i'm also very open to you know hearing anything about like you know my own privilege
as a man or whatever understanding like oh yeah i i also know being a man you don't hear shit like
that a lot of time for the precise reason you're talking about it because people would rather not
have that discussion but i try and be as open as possible because I don't want to be the type of dude who someone
can bring that up to.
And I'm like, well, what the fuck are you talking about?
Right.
I mean, there's no need for me to be defensive because at a base level, I'm like, you know,
there's always shit to learn.
There's always shit I'm not perceiving.
There's always shit I haven't learned.
I'm here to learn.
And I don't know what to do with my hands when I'm not interacting with people.
So I'm not going to fuck with trying to do shit with my hands.
Yeah, people see you, they're like,
okay, thank you.
A lot of sweat.
Sir?
Sir?
All right, we're going to take a quick break.
We'll be right back.
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The situation is desperate.
My name is Manuel Delia.
I am one of the hosts of Crooks Everywhere,
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Daphne exposed the culture of crime and corruption
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And she paid the ultimate price.
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Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry,
Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese.
I know I'll go down in history.
People are talking about women's basketball
just because of one single game.
Every great player needs a foil.
I ain't really near them.
Why is that?
Just come here and play basketball every single day and that's what I focus on.
From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports.
Angel Reese is a joy to watch.
She is unapologetically black.
I love her.
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Why has it been so good for the game?
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The first thing I thought when I heard about trampoline parks is, well, that can't possibly be what I think it is.
And then I found out that it is.
It's just a big old park with another bunch of trampolines.
Just a big warehouse with another bunch of trampolines.
Trampolines on the walls, trampolines on the floor, foam pits.
I was like, they must have figured something out.
They must have some netting somewhere that other regular trampolines don't have.
And it turns out, no.
No.
They just have really good waivers that they make people sign right
because they have been just maiming people for days and days well yeah there's a whole report
right so richard blumenthal uh the senator has been like pushing this thing called the fair act
where he's trying to get rid of like forced arbitration for consumer cases so in these
trampoline death traps you go to they make you sign the waiver to be like look
if you fuck yourself up on these trampolines trying to do backflips that you know you shouldn't
be doing oh you can't sue us or and if it does it'll go into an arbitration and you have no
other recourse legally right and so this came up in this context because he noticed that not only
has like we went from i think 40 parks trampoline parks in 2011 to over 800 now in this year
and none of them are being regulated
there's no oversight and they're getting away
with people just signing this shit and it's
obscuring things like there have been 6 deaths
since 2012
there have been a number of
severe injuries like including broken
necks, broken ankles
common things are like
I like how I was on broken ankle
open fractured elbows
open tib and fib fractures
so when we say open
are they talking about
bust through the skin
yeah yeah
compounds
I would say compound
there's like a
there's like a real word for that
yeah
it's the nast shit
ASAP nast
so this is you know
it's becoming a thing
and so he was just
sort of saying
I think we need to
actually begin to turn our focus to this because there are people getting hurt.
They have no they can't have their day in court.
Right.
All because we found, you know, we've created a system where people would be like, oh, you signed the waiver.
Sorry.
Like, I know we created an environment for you to possibly kill yourself in.
But that was on you.
Yo.
I mean, also, though, and I've certainly done it myself right like you need
to read what you're signing oh yeah and i never do i i usually do like i'm the annoying person
i'm like can i have a minute and i will read through and i'll scan through for stuff and like
i absolutely like pushed things back and been like i'm not gonna sign that right you're like
redlining it yeah i've done that before too and then people are like i'm like no and they're like well do you still want to participate and i'm like well i'm not gonna sign sign that. Right. You're like redlining it. Yeah. I've done that before too. And then people are like, I'm like, no.
And they're like, well, do you still want to participate?
And I'm like, well, I'm not going to sign that.
And I've had people let me do it and I've not signed it.
Really?
Because they want my money.
Right.
So challenge them.
Yeah.
That'd be fun.
Wow.
Or just like cross things out, initial next to it, then sign.
Yeah.
Like when, I mean, I was in Cabo and I went parasailing and it was all this gnarly stuff
that's basically like, if you, like if you drop into the ocean like yeah you're gone like we
don't care and I was like bro this is like you don't even have an office this is a tent and a
table on a beach right you're like using a rubbing pencil to take my credit card number right now I'm
absolutely not signing that way right right and he was like okay no problem I was like yeah as I
thought I'm like I'm gonna sue the shit out of you if you draw me in the ocean.
I'm reading this.
It says, in the event of serious injury or death, dot, dot, dot, shrug?
Yeah, yeah.
Exactly.
There's just a stage direction there.
Yeah, man.
You put the laughing emoji with the tears.
Oh, God.
But that is wild that it comes institutionalized, right?
Yeah.
But that is wild that like it comes institutionalized, right?
Yeah.
Where like you've waived away your rights to be compensated for injury that is not your fault.
Right.
Faulty equipment.
Exactly, yeah.
Like somebody has jumped 9,000 times in that one corner and you happen to be the 9,001 time that broke it. The stories of one – like so CBS when they first heard about it, they sent an investigator – like a reporter to just kind of look into what the hell was going on.
And they said that literally an hour before this journalist got there, someone had just completely busted their knees or something an hour before she got there.
They said, Jason Freewalt, a healthy young dad and former college football player.
He said he could finally find the words to explain the pain of jumping into a foam pit.
I can't describe it.
I blew my knees out.
Jesus.
Also, you a grown ass man.
Why the hell are you jumping into a foam pit?
Well, that's the other half of it.
Like, read what you're signing, but also you're not built like that anymore.
Yeah.
Be real.
Because like that foam pit's probably not built for a body weighing however many pounds
like with the downward force coming through.
But anyway, but that's the problem.
If I see that, my child mind activates and I'm like, oh yeah, I can wild the fuck out
in here because it's soft everywhere.
Right.
And then cut to me in the chair being like.
And how dumb would you feel if you blew your knees?
Both of them out.
Yeah, you would have to come up with a new story.
Right.
Yeah.
Anybody who
tells you a badass story about why they're
on crutches, the truth is they
fucked themselves up at a trampoline park.
I'm also very, very clumsy.
I literally, I have broken
bones just standing
where things have happened to me.
Broke my finger walking from my living room
to the kitchen holding a plate. Somehow managed to
throw the plate up and it went to catch it and landed on my finger. I fell and it broke my finger walking from my living room to the kitchen holding a plate. Somehow managed to throw the plate up. It went to catch it.
It landed on my finger.
I fell and it broke my finger.
Right.
Like.
Yeah.
I've never.
If it's to be broken, I will break it.
So we'll keep you away from the trampoline.
Yeah, yeah.
No, I will never do that.
No, no, no.
And we won't do the knife juggling section.
Parastealing alone is like the biggest risk I've ever taken.
Also, Zeitgang, tell me if you work at a place where you force people to, not force, but
you have customers sign a waiver before. And tell me if you work in a death pit or force people to not force but you have customers sign a waiver before
and tell me if you work in a death pit or a death trap because i feel like we were talking where
else could this happen like a go-kart track yeah there's a lot of like go-kart yeah mini golf oh
yeah don't you sign a waiver i don't know how you mini golf but damn and at driving ranges yeah
because motherfuckers driving ranges for sure right there's a lot of shit that like little
kids do like their gyms like they're like their gyms. Water slides. Their gymnastics gyms. Right.
Yeah, water slides for sure.
And I just think I always assumed-
Because there's waivers baked into things when you just use your credit card, too, even
though if you're not signing it, it'll be like, check this box to agree.
I think I just always assumed that, oh, they have it figured out.
Right.
Somehow.
Trusting.
Yeah.
All they've done is like, well, if they sign the paper, we're good, baby.
Right.
Exactly.
Welcome to Knife Island.
And who's handing you that paper?
It's like a pimply-faced teen that's like, will you sign this, we're good right exactly welcome to knife island who's handing you that paper it's like a pimply face teen that's like oh man i am so like i spent a lot of time
on a trampoline as a kid i never once did a flip he's white of course he didn't never did a flip
i've never dove into a pool i like you've never dove into a pool in your life i like won't go upside down
i'm like oh my god i love this i'm so careful we gotta do a documentary trying to learn how to dive
into a pool cautious jack yeah cautious the bubble boy yeah and i've noticed my oldest kid like is
very careful like yeah he just like when he's walking down the steps
he'll take like three like tests to go down i'm like and he's just sobbing that's adorable
don't hurt yourself boy don't hurt yourself we're cowards that's how we got this far
the o'brien men are cowards there's a war on we will run the other direction for the brave to
kill each other and reap to sweep it up right after. Just play dead.
All right.
Son, I need you to sit still and do not participate.
Am I supposed to tell you how to go full fetal in a fist fight?
You pull somebody else's body on top of yours.
I wanted to talk real quick, Miles, about this article that you brought to my attention.
Everyone's attention. Yeah.
A lot of people were talking about this a few days
back uh the the quote is or i think i think maybe the title of the thing is i've been hiring people
for 10 years and i still swear by a simple rule if someone doesn't send a thank you email don't
hire them okay interesting so the responses to this were varied but all pretty much like what the fuck are you
talking about do we google this person do we know what they look like jessica liebman this is what
she looks like that that's her quote that's her quote she so she is the man like she does like
the hiring at insider inc so business insider and all their other brands. So she's the person, she's the gatekeeper for this company.
And her litmus test is, did you thank me?
Is she from the South?
I don't know.
Is she Canadian?
Right.
I know you're trying to find a reason here.
Yeah, I don't know.
It's very, I have never, ever considered that.
It has nothing to do with like how talented
or good somebody's gonna be at the
job but so the thing she says
is it only has to do with how eager they are
to get the job but is that the best
quality because to me if you're too thirsty
it's like dating right right like just
because the dude or the lady that you're dating
is like oh since that
follow-up text and then it's like
how it can be like too much then it's like how it's it
can be like too much but it's like well okay you can also send 19 thank you letters in a week right
that means the only thing you're good at is snowing you know what i mean and sending letters
and i'm not to undermine the gesture of a thing you know right i think it's really great but i
listen like i've worked for a long time and i've been in situations where I am absolutely a manager and I'm in a hiring position.
I've hired several people in my life and I've gotten thank you notes and I've not gotten thank you notes.
And in my personal experience, the people who are writing thank you notes are the most desperate people and people who have done poorly in the interview.
Right.
And they're using this as an opportunity to reiterate where they felt like they have gone wrong right just be like if i could actually do this written yeah yeah like
or they're just such there's also a level of almost they're assuming they're gonna get a job
right like where they're like oh i can't wait to work forward with you i can't i look forward to
working with you every single day and like here's a note where i'm just like hey bitch right i
haven't even decided if i like you yet like thank you but let's just keep it easy well a lot of the
people in the responses were like oh so do you actually thank every person who's applied for
your job too yeah right like you do that yeah like what's good uh do you think like other people like
why would you treat these people like children or it's just like there are way too many things
involved you know her her reasoning is that like, it just helps put somebody in the good apple
pile, right?
He's like, if anything, they might test you out.
She likes to have her ass kissed.
Yeah, of course.
That's a very self-serving boss.
That's somebody I don't want to work for.
She specifically says, at Insider Inc., we look to hire good eggs.
Good eggs, that's what it was.
What does that mean?
It's like coded language.
Yeah, that line like gave me goosebumps because it's like that weird,
bullshitty HR lingo where they're just basically trying to find a way around
saying that it's completely subjective and it's whoever I seem to like.
So they're like, so we group people into good eggs and bad eggs.
Good eggs and brown people.
Yeah, whatever it is.
I don't mean to cast aspersions
of whatever the fuck
their hiring practices are.
I do.
I'm just kidding.
We don't know.
I don't care.
They ain't gonna hire me.
I'm saying.
I don't need a job.
I'll pull up.
Okay, Ms. Liebman.
Listen, not everybody
has stationary bitch
just hanging around
waiting to put stamps on it.
Yeah.
Some of us are out here
interviewing and going to the job
we already have.
We don't have time to send you a thank you letter.
I think to me, like, you know, there have been other people.
I remember in the Harvard Business Review,
someone wrote like they don't hire people
if their grammar's bad
because that's more of an indicator to them of some,
like if the job is having to do with writing,
they're like, if you don't know two and two,
I'm sorry, you're a bad egg.
And I get like if there's something more specific, but if it's just something as general as like, if you don't know two and two, I'm sorry. That's valid. You're a bad egg. Right. And I get like if there's something more specific, but if it's just something as general as like,
you didn't massage my ego.
That's my problem.
Exactly.
And I'm not sure what objectively it like, okay, great.
That person is polite.
Right.
But that's not always the thing you're looking for.
And again, you don't know what the other person is going through to assume that just because
they didn't thank you means like, oh, they're going to be fucked up.
Yeah.
They're not going to know how to say thank you ever.
They didn't even thank me for this interview.
Right.
And her reasoning is sort of like, you know, I've noticed the people who like don't say
thank you.
They'll maybe accept the offer, but then pull out and then leave us in the lurch and just
sort of like using like past.
I feel like she's had some very specific things happen to her that she is like put into these
buckets and been like, these are my new rules.
Right.
And who knows how much her interaction with people after they don't send a thank you note is coloring whether they end up taking the job.
She's like, hmm.
Well, honestly, she's prejudiced.
She's absolutely putting, which is kind of against all HR rules for hiring.
Exactly. absolutely putting which is kind of like against all hr rules for hiring exactly you're supposed to consider each candidate on the merit of their skills and juxtapose that against the like job
description that you have posted and pick the right person so someone from business insider
was asked actually specifically about the ethnicity or the the breakdown of their their
newsroom and it says thank you for the question with respect to race and ethnicity 28 of our
teammates identified themselves as people of color three years ago this percentage was 20 within our newsrooms 30 of staff identify
as people of color up from 25 three years ago getting there well that's hey i mean i've worked
in places where i was like 100 like it me yeah yeah and they're like he's next he counts as two
that's good yeah he can take the black box. Count him as an Asian and a black person.
Good.
He's rare.
He's like a Benetton ad.
Mia, what is something you think is overrated?
Okay, I think shaving your legs is overrated.
Okay.
I'm over it.
It makes your legs so dry.
You have to moisturize so much.
You have to do it every day.
I'm just bored.
I'm done.
Okay.
But what if I underrated?
Definitely conflicts with that
in that I think it's underrated to shave your whole face.
Your whole face?
I recently started shaving my whole face.
Okay.
And it feels so good.
Oh, really?
It's so smooth.
I have to use half as much lotion because it's not getting stuck on the hair.
It's so gratifying to just watch the peach fuzz fall off.
Oh, wow.
I love it.
I'm a big fan.
Is it an urban myth like you're not supposed to shave your peach fuzz fall off. Oh, wow. I love it. I'm a big fan. Are there like, is it an urban myth
like you're not supposed
to shave your peach fuzz
or it comes back
stronger than ever?
As like thick whiskers.
I think what the truth is in that
is that cutting it
gives it a blunt edge,
but once you've ever cut it,
I think that's true.
Right.
And I'm sure I've...
Who knows?
I'm sure some peach fuzz person
knows the truth.
Truthers.
Yeah.
And you're like a...
You're stripping your hair,
you're stripping your face
of protective layers. It's probably bad, but it feels good. You're like a... You're stripping your hair or you're stripping your face of protective layers. It's probably
bad, but it feels good.
You're like a light complected person though, so
you don't have to worry about that peach fuzz coming back
as thick black hair is coming out
from your under eyelids or whatever.
I will say getting older, the mustache is darkening.
It is. It's getting thicker.
So another reason why shaving my whole
face is kind of a fun thing for me now.
We'll see how long it lasts
many times I shave
I still get this like
weird patchy
Johnny Depp hair
yeah
I blame my Japanese side
for that
but hey
cause on my dad's side
motherfuckers are rocking beards
yeah maybe as you get older
they'll get thicker
I don't know
I'm like 34
and I have like the
I have a preteen
like beard face
you know what I mean
like Keanu Reeves
I know
but you know what
fine you know what? Fine.
You know,
I'll look young forever.
Yeah,
that's definitely
not a bad thing.
Trust me.
Yeah,
but you know what,
Jack?
You have beard privilege.
I do have beard privilege.
I look all the time.
There's a certain point,
if it grows in evenly,
you can rock it
and still kind of like,
oh,
that's rugged.
There have been times
people have literally
asked me if I was okay.
That's so mean.
But not even like
in a shitty way.
That makes it worse.
In college, they're like, are you getting a vitamin?
Is everything okay?
Because they think that you had a full beard and pieces of it are falling out from radiation poisoning.
Yo, there was a time, oh my God, I did Movember a few years ago.
And that was such a fucking nightmare.
People just laughed when I worked at Power 106.
People were growing like real beards and shit.
I came in,
people were like.
You could just do what Karamo did
in the first season of Queer Eye
and paint it on.
Oh, damn.
You notice that?
I know, yeah.
It's gone now.
Yeah, I know.
I like that it's gone now.
So just to make it clear to everyone,
you are not saying shave your whole face,
including eyebrows.
I leave my eyebrows,
but you don't have to.
Fuck it.
Have some fun.
It is an aggressive look.
Go nuts.
Oh, to go eyebrowless?
Sure.
Hey, Whoopi's been rocking that.
I know.
That guy from fucking No Ho Hank on Barry, you guys watch that?
He makes it look good.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I kind of want to shave him.
Oh, wow.
We'll see.
Yeah.
I'll get there.
Next time I'm on.
Just do some makeup first.
Do some Photoshop.
Yeah, exactly.
Test drive it like that. See what it looks like. All right. We're going to take a quick break. We'll get there. Next time I'm on, that's what I'll do. Just use some mega first, use some Photoshop. Yeah, exactly. Test drive it like that.
See what it looks like.
All right, we're going to take a quick break.
We'll be right back.
Daphne Caruana Galizia was a Maltese investigative journalist
who on October 16th, 2017 was murdered.
There are crooks everywhere you look now.
The situation is desperate.
My name is Manuel Delia. I am one of the hosts of Crooks Everywhere, a podcast that unhurts the plot to murder a one-woman Wikileaks.
Daphne exposed the culture of crime and corruption that were turning her beloved country into a mafia state.
And she paid the ultimate price.
Listen to Crooks everywhere on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your
podcasts.
Hey, I'm Gianna Pardenti.
And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadsden.
We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline,
a new podcast from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts.
When you're just starting out in your career,
you have a lot of questions.
Like, how do I speak up when I'm feeling overwhelmed?
Or, can I negotiate a higher salary
if this is my first real job?
Girl, yes.
Each week, we answer your unfiltered
work questions. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know
the answer, we bring in experts who do, like resume specialist Morgan Saner. The only difference
between the person who doesn't get the job and the person who gets the job is usually who applies.
Yeah, I think a lot about that quote. What is it? Like you miss a hundred percent of the shots you never take. Yeah. Rejection is scary, but it's better
than you rejecting yourself. Together, we'll share what it really takes to thrive in the early years
of your career without sacrificing your sanity or sleep. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the
iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. inspire us. Like our recent episode with Grammy award-winning rapper Eve on her new memoir and the moments that made her. It became a theme in my life, the underdog syndrome of being questioned
of the, would they say this to a man? No, they would not. Like why? That was one of those moments
where you're just like, oh wow. It was a bit shocking, but it didn't take any steam away or
anything like that. If anything, it was more of the, okay, I'll show you.
No worries.
Listen to The Bright Side from Hello Sunshine on the iHeartRadio app,
Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
I'm Keri Champion, and this is Season 4 of Naked Sports,
where we live at the intersection of sports and culture.
Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese.
I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game.
Every great player needs a foil.
I ain't really near them boys. I just come here to play basketball every single day, and that's what I focus on.
From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports.
Angel Reese is a joy to watch.
She is unapologetically black.
I love her.
What exactly ignited this fire?
Why has it been so good for the game?
And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained?
This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better.
This new season will cover all things
sports and culture. Listen to Naked
Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network,
iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,
or wherever you get your podcasts.
The Black Effect Podcast Network is
sponsored by Diet Coke.
And we're back.
Alright, so I do want to talk about the black hole because i find what i think
there's something dead inside me guys i it looks like did it change you a really terrible photograph
i took of the eclipse back when that happened or like when i would be like whoa the moon looks so
cool when i was drunk and then like i would look at the picture in the next day that I took of the moon.
It's just like a blurry little tiny thing.
So no part of you is impressed that we have the first ever photo of a black hole?
I don't know.
Why am I not?
What is wrong with me?
I feel the same way.
You're a broken man.
Broken human being.
I'm the same way.
And I looked at it and I went, whatever.
So quickly.
And I feel terrible because I understand intellectually that the black hole is one of the greatest mysteries in space.
And we have found, we have come to a moment where we have collaboratively aimed all of our telescopes at this shit and gotten our first image of this thing.
And my first reaction is like, yo, that looks like an out of focus picture of Sauron's eye.
Yeah, that's exactly. Yeah. Or some shit.
That's exactly.
Yeah, you would know.
You guys are both clearly on the fucking dark side here.
Yeah, right?
We would.
It's like calling me.
It's like, nothing.
That's why you look down and you're like, yeah, what's up?
That's my homie.
I know this.
Oh, this doesn't visit you in your dreams too?
So Robert Evans, host of Behind the Bastards, was in the office this morning and he said
it filled him with wonder.
Super producer Nick Stumpf agreed.
Yeah, it fills you with wonder as well?
I wouldn't say it fills me with wonder.
I just was like, tight.
Moved on with my life.
It's pretty tight.
I'm honestly already annoyed because of the meme treatment.
I feel like we can't have any cool news
without me just seeing it too many times and then hating it.
So the first place Robert saw it was apparently
within 31 minutes of it being discovered.
It was on Goatsy, on the butthole part of Goatsy. being discovered, it was on
Goetze, on the butthole part
of Goetze. I'm sure it was.
Really creative meme work.
Yeah. And just
dogged meme work.
They're just like ready.
Do they have a template?
They have a template.
Yeah, they just drop any circular...
Yeah, for the meme makers union
but I
like people have said
that we've been
ruined by movies
because we're
not impressed by it
but I feel like
we've actually been
ruined by science
because they've been
showing us like
amazing
images of what
black holes
might look like
I guess
so illustrators
yeah
like illustrators
they're too good
they're fucking it up
for us they're too imagin. They're fucking it up for us.
They're too imaginative.
So the thing that kind of made me come around on it,
the glowy part is basically the place where all the,
they're using radio telescopes.
You're even losing your seat.
So wait,
how did they take the picture?
Because my understanding
is a black hole
sucks everything in,
right?
Right.
So how did they not
suck in their camera?
Far enough away?
Yeah,
it was far.
I've looked nothing up
about this.
I just saw it as Shrek's eyes
and I was like,
yeah,
I know what you're talking about.
Yeah,
great black hole,
moving on.
So the story of how they did it
is actually cooler
than the image to me.
It was a woman,
right?
It was, woman, right?
They said 120 different scientists working in a concert.
So definitely a woman involved
there to get all those people
to work together, I'm sure.
I'm sure that was sexist
in some way, I apologize.
Using radio telescopes
from all over the world, they basically and they synced is the equivalent
of looking at something like a line
drawn with a mechanical pencil
in Los Angeles from New York
is like how hard it was to find this thing.
All right, I'm back.
Now I like it.
I needed the context to understand
the impressiveness of it.
Yeah, so this black hole is different.
Most black holes are the size of the city of Chicago at most.
This black hole is the size of the Earth's orbit, and it's in the center of a galaxy.
So that's why they're able to even think about seeing it.
But the nearest black hole to Earth would be like being able to see a molecule
through a telescope in los angeles from new york so it's we're not there yet but the right we are
able to see the fucking mechanical pencil line all right my bad science yeah you did it i'm just
scared of it i don't if this is how quickly we're able to break uncharted terrain like what am i
gonna see before I die?
And do I want to see it?
In a way, I kind of feel like ignorance is bliss when it comes to space stuff.
It's very scary.
Yeah.
Hey, if we're lucky, we might see the world end.
Oh, God.
If we're lucky.
Through a telescope from New York.
Oh, shit.
Yeah, but, right?
Isn't that a thing where you can, like, see, I guess you see the past of other galaxies, not our own.
Yeah, I saw interstellar.
So like if you think about it though,
like love is the one thing that transcends both time and space.
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