The Daily Zeitgeist - Weekly Zeitgeist 84 (Best of 7/15/19-7/19/19)

Episode Date: July 21, 2019

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Daphne Caruana Galizia was a Maltese investigative journalist who on October 16th 2017 was assassinated. Crooks Everywhere unearthed the plot to murder a one-woman WikiLeaks. She exposed the culture of crime and corruption that were turning her beloved country into a mafia state. Listen to Crooks Everywhere on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. a lot to figure out when you're just starting your career. That's where we come in. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in people who do, like negotiation expert Maury Tahiripour. If you start thinking about negotiations as just a conversation, then I think it sort of eases us a little bit. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:01:03 I'm Keri Champion, and this is Season 4 of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's basketball. And on this new season, we'll cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio apps, or wherever
Starting point is 00:01:28 you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. Every great player needs a foil. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports.
Starting point is 00:01:51 Listen to the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. On the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. Hello, the internet, and welcome to this episode of the Weekly Zeitgeist. These are some of our favorite segments from this week, all edited together into one nonstop infotainment laughstravaganza. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:22 So without further ado, here is the weekly zeitgeist. What is something you think is overrated? Uh, potentially controversial opinion. The Rock. The Rock. Is what? Overrated.
Starting point is 00:02:39 Oh, okay. Now... I think I'm turning a corner. You have to whisper it, like, you know? I just... Look, you say things into a microphone and then you forget the internet's out there. And The Rock, I mean, here's the thing. I've been very pro-Rock for a long time.
Starting point is 00:02:50 I think I've kind of turned the corner on The Rock though lately. Now you're more of an Armageddon fan? I mean, I'm Team Diesel, number one. Team Vin Diesel, number one. It was a bad Michael Bay joke. Yeah, I was like, where is he? Where did he go?
Starting point is 00:03:04 More of a Con Air fan. Also, yes. Yes. Okay. Sorry. Per se. Oh, yeah. Also, my favorite hair dryer.
Starting point is 00:03:14 I prefer Arkham Asylum. I don't know. No, Dwayne Johnson. I'm kind of turned a corner on him. I got a big issue with Hobbs and Shaw. I think Jumanji sequels looks kind of weird. There's a lot of weird cash grabs going on with him. I'm not a fan of.
Starting point is 00:03:27 Within the Fastverse also, Vin Diesel's rule has always been that they make movies together because they are a family. And that way everybody gets paid every time. And then The Rock coming in and swooping in and making a side movie cuts out Tyrese, everybody else except for him and Statham. Right. Statham isn't even part. I mean, these are both for him and Statham. Right. Statham isn't even part, I mean, these are both people
Starting point is 00:03:47 who were added at the last minute. Yeah, exactly. They're not core. They're not family. I got a big problem with that. I've turned a corner on the rocks. Oh, so this is fast-based. This is fast-based.
Starting point is 00:03:57 Wow. Yeah, yeah. Interesting. That's where it comes from. So you're family, I'm guessing. Yeah, oh, I'm family. Wow. The Fastverse is my Star Wars. I prefer it. Oh, fuck yeah. I prefer it. I'm guessing. Yeah, oh, I'm family. Wow. The Fastverse is my Star Wars.
Starting point is 00:04:05 I prefer it. Oh, fuck yeah. I prefer it. Good for you. Yeah. I like that shit. I know it's weird. I know a few people who are like fast.
Starting point is 00:04:14 Fast rules. They live fast and they are in the Fast Fam. I want to give a recommendation. Do they live life one quarter mile at a time? You got damn right they do. Is that what it is, a quarter mile? Yeah, a quarter mile at a time. Is that right? Sorry, I was trying.
Starting point is 00:04:28 Just go in the bathroom and reach into the mirror. Fucking Fast and Furious has been a diverse franchise from the start. Absolutely. They didn't just become one lately. Yeah, man. Really good portrayal of Japanese culture and Tokyo Drift, I might also add. Shout out to the franchise
Starting point is 00:04:43 for always holding it down yes Justice for Han fully authentic oh boy Justice for Han they only shot like two scenes there
Starting point is 00:04:51 oh really yeah cause in Japan they don't let people fuck around do stunts like in the street they're like no they're like
Starting point is 00:04:57 then we will go to Korea yeah and they're like okay I appreciate it yeah cause I know a lot yeah like they're just sort of in general
Starting point is 00:05:04 they just don't want like well what if something happens in the street and we don't want to inconvenience people with like holding up traffic and if one of your stunt scenes go wrong
Starting point is 00:05:10 and you go through a fucking Lawson's convenience store you'll have problems yeah man imagine just living in a world where people people cared about you
Starting point is 00:05:18 yeah that much where they're like well we don't want to inconvenience the commuters yeah and in Brazil they did that shit but like we'll give you
Starting point is 00:05:24 money now yeah in Brazil they did that uh safe scene on an open road oh yeah they didn't even block traffic off they just did that pulled down just people if you were there man they're like look bro i drive defensively on thursday most of the day do not drive to downtown if you do you may be in the movie but we're not liable if you die that scene kills a like the good guys kill a like minimum of 30
Starting point is 00:05:54 people oh yeah that thing is just swinging through buildings that like have people in them it's just taking shit out but what a great scene honestly I wish that this is like a joke you see sometimes, but I wish there were more mockumentaries about the fallout of action scenes. Oh, yeah, dude.
Starting point is 00:06:11 You know what I mean? Oh, yeah. People were like, I remember we were there on our honeymoon in Brazil. Right. And Eric went to go get me a caipirinha, which is what they drink there. Yeah. And he was smashed by a- By a giant safe. Being pulled by Dodge chargers.
Starting point is 00:06:28 I love those movies so much. They're so good. Yeah. And the thing about the rock, okay. Things I'm not going to weigh in one way or another because I've been threatened. I've had my life threatened for,
Starting point is 00:06:41 for my hot rock takes, but no, I kind of agree with you. I think he's overrated. I think people need to confront the fact he's a Republican. Yes. No.
Starting point is 00:06:53 When he records with Vin Diesel, people think Vin Diesel is the dude from the movie. Vin Diesel is like a sensitive D&D playing dancer. Yeah. And The Rock is always mad at him and calling him like a candy ass and shit. It's like, yeah,
Starting point is 00:07:08 but he's a jabroni. What do you want him to do? He's a bro. Yeah. I mean, it's just two thirds, man. I just think people need to accept that.
Starting point is 00:07:15 Well, I think you need to accept that you're expedited reservation to the Smackdown hotel. Okay. I, Hey, I fully, I do fully accept that reservation.
Starting point is 00:07:25 I'm confirming that reservation. I'm confirming. Okay, great. For how many nights? No, I get it. I get it. He's very likable in a lot of respects. I think a lot of people just hold the character, the rock, in their hearts.
Starting point is 00:07:38 Yeah. Oh, for sure. And are starting to like, and then when you kind of see him out there, like, you walk this fine line, Dwayne. Right. Yeah. But, you know, maybe he'll run for president. Maybe he'll primary Donald Trump on the right.
Starting point is 00:07:50 I mean, I'm down for that. Yeah. Go for that. Please. Use your power in that way. Just leave Vin Diesel the fuck alone. Because, wow, you know how toxic those debates would be? He's like, I mean, look at him.
Starting point is 00:07:59 Who knows where he came from? Right. He's like, why don't I rip your stupid toupee off your fucking head? Right. You turd. Yeah. He has a cheat day. He's just eating pictures, eating pancakes with fucking Stormy Daniels' face on them.
Starting point is 00:08:14 And then, you know what? It would be the corporate elbow again if he became the president. Yeah. Yeah. See, I can go down that path. Yeah. I think that would work. I think it might work if you just primary it.
Starting point is 00:08:25 Way more toxic because there's no, if you want to toxic it up. Can't out toxic. Dwayne is way too witty. Right. He'll fucking have, he'll have something for everything. Exactly. He just drops a, he just raises an eyebrow during the debate and then it's over for Trump. Trump can't handle that.
Starting point is 00:08:40 Use your toxic masculinity for good. You, Dwayne. Rudy Poo, candy ass. Rudy Poo. Wow. Yeah. toxic masculinity for good you rudy poo candy ass um rudy poo wow yeah but if you got pulled in by the hillary clinton video where he like talked shit about hillary clinton uh that was a fake that's fake yeah don't don't buy into that yeah oh yeah they thought he was like singing a song about her but it was about another wrestler yeah this is actually when you talk about hillary it's like okay yeah yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. There's plenty of legitimate things
Starting point is 00:09:07 to go after The Rock for. Right. We don't need to. That was amazing. But that simple comment, look, that caused, that set off a firestorm in here.
Starting point is 00:09:14 Yeah. So that's been the episode. I also want to say real quick, if you have not watched The Fast Verse and you want to know how do I do it, there's eight movies,
Starting point is 00:09:21 what do I do? I highly recommend. Start at the beginning? Start at the beginning, but watch them week to week as if it was a weekly TV show with a couple of friends. Oh, interesting. Because take eight weeks and be like, every Wednesday we're getting together
Starting point is 00:09:32 and we're having fast night. Somebody's making dinner. Somebody's bringing beers. And that's what you do. And then you cheers your Coronas and say, we're all family. We're all family. Right.
Starting point is 00:09:41 Family sticks together. Yeah. Because when you watch them like that, you don't realize how many weird details are connected throughout all the movies. And it's because Vin Diesel is a D&D guy. He built the world way more than he ever needed to. Was he that involved in the writing?
Starting point is 00:09:55 Oh, yeah. Oh, good for him. Yeah. He's a huge part of those movies. Yeah. And yeah, there's just weird tertiary characters that come back six movies later. Exactly. What?
Starting point is 00:10:04 And they're like, I think Brian always has a skyline. Yeah, exactly. What is a myth? What's something people think is true you know to be false? Oh, so going back to my original thing, there are some people that are genuinely angry at things
Starting point is 00:10:18 and genuinely mad, and that's exhausting. But we've also got to really pay attention to which one of these like fake accounts which are people who are doing it on purpose to get us all to yell at each other yeah we got to do a better job of screening those out yeah because with the aerial thing there were at least two accounts that everybody i saw everybody every big blue check all of my friends everyone is yelling at this person the one that had the man hands holding the video in the picture yep that was one there was another one of people just you know taking photos offline and
Starting point is 00:10:49 you know we all know about the the bots and the other people who pretend to be black and we know it because they don't use aave well they don't understand that it is an actual language and that it is like it has linguistic properties that follow a set of rules. So it's always like, I was be downs to street. Did you just watch fat Albert? I watched an old fat Albert cartoon. I know how they talk.
Starting point is 00:11:14 Yeah. I was black. And as is a black is, it's like, you gotta, please. Yeah. Like that old dude who like probably self vandalized his property.
Starting point is 00:11:22 Oh yeah. He just wrote crips. Oh, I didn't see the crips. I think it was the same neighborhood. It was like Black's Rule. Black's Rule is the one that I seen. Oh, I didn't see Black's Rule. I just saw the Crips one, which I thought
Starting point is 00:11:34 was like a hilarious bit that somebody was doing where they just wrote Crips in like flowery cursive. Yeah, like what neighborhood though? Okay. And then it's just Black's Rule. Those are totally sentences that black people say. To that Ariel thing, there was that. Like, what neighborhood, though? Okay. And then it's just Blacks rule. Yeah, Blacks rule. Blacks rule. Those are totally sentences that Black people say. To that Ariel thing, there was that account that everyone was like, this girl, she's saying, like, it ruined my childhood.
Starting point is 00:11:53 The photos, none of them match. She's like, I'm throwing away the video. It was like a grown man's hand. From like an unboxing video. Oh, okay. That was, yeah, or whoever this person was took from that. Another photo from Instagram just created this dumb backstory. And if you even just look at the timelines of some of these accounts, they're never consistent.
Starting point is 00:12:10 They're all over the place. And like sometimes they just, they fan both sides. Yeah, because what they're doing is typically, because they know that we're looking for something. It's like, oh, you started your account yesterday. These, whoever the trolls or whatever, whatever these people who are doing this are they have been doing the long game so these are accounts that have been around since you know 2014 2013 2010 these are the same accounts where if you remember that hashtag your slip is showing where there was a bunch of accounts of black women that were what was it they were trying to
Starting point is 00:12:43 do like hashtag cancel father's day because fathers suck and it's only about mothers. And it turns out it was a bunch of 4chan trolls. Yeah. Like these, and so the smart ones delete old tweets. Yeah. The other ones don't because they know you're not going to go back that far. Yeah, because you're just interacting with the tweets.
Starting point is 00:12:57 Yeah, so we just got to be a lot more careful about spending our internet energy and quaints on these fake accounts. Oh, zero followers following 15 people. You've had the account since March 2015, but you only have two tweets? Yeah. But you keep deleting them every time I see you go back to your basement? We were talking about this last week with regards to the Jason Momoa dad bod thing.
Starting point is 00:13:18 Where did that happen? Who was saying that? Everyone's like, people are saying that. Where? I was looking for it. Where? We were trying to figure that out and could not find the original person being like, look at this fatty. I'm going to be a dad because of that photo.
Starting point is 00:13:31 Exactly. Sign me up. Let's talk about Bastille Day. It was July 14th. It was over last weekend. weekend um and so this is the celebration that inspired america's fourth of july celebration this year when the military drove some tanks onto the national mall did they end up doing that yeah there were there were some tanks they were parked there though right right drove them up parked them and then put them behind fences and then trump's homies could come in close enough to like see them.
Starting point is 00:14:05 Touch them and selfie with them. But only like the inner circle. All the other MAGA people just had to sit in the rain. Yeah. Drive by these branded Trump honchos. But I mean, like people who support him want him to be better than them. So I don't think they mind that like he treats them like shit. Right.
Starting point is 00:14:23 Well, that gives you something to aspire to. Right. Right. That's the only way you can accept your lot in life. Right. So he was trying to live up to the Bastille Day celebration that he saw. And he didn't live up to a good 4th of July parade standard. Not even like in your neighborhood. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:42 Not even like Huntington Beach. Yeah. Where kids are being pulled on like radio flyer carts. And you're like, well, he has a flag taped to his arm. France issued the most devastating, that was cute, nice try. I've seen, you know. Parked tanks before. Yes.
Starting point is 00:14:59 Not even rolling down the fucking street. Yeah. So there's just this one clip that shows a dude flying around in a rocketeer pack with a assault rifle. Yeah. And then so he flies across the sky, which I had seen before. But then he just comes to a stop and just hovers above Macron for like. Like we salute you, Emperor Macron macron 15 seconds with a fucking machine gun in his hand and it's just like sup yeah and then fucking flies off takes off like
Starting point is 00:15:34 literal iron man shit yeah the the video i've seen of this dude's setup before but i didn't that part of the official bastille day thing was kind of definitely a flex because Because you saw what was funny, like I felt bad for the people behind him who were just operating drones with a remote control. I'm like, yeah, okay, I get it, the new technology. Like just make way for fucking Iron Man. Yeah, exactly. But yeah, the way even Macron was like looking back at him, you could almost tell he was like, yes. Directly into my veins.
Starting point is 00:16:06 Floating soldier. I'm sure Trump, oh God. That might also be what Trump is trying to deal with right now with his overt racism. Yeah. When I watched this clip too, I was just like, oh, the future is here and it's terrifying. Yeah. Oh, it's scary as fuck. Some dude, just some soldier flying up to your window. It's like, you must go now. And like, oh, fuck. Yeah. Fuck. Some dude, just some soldier flying up to your window. It's like, you must go now.
Starting point is 00:16:25 And like, oh, fuck. Yeah. But hey, you know, military industrial complex. Activate. Also, the idea like Bastille Day is like when we, you know, when they took over the aristocrats and the idea of doing something just so fuck you rich people. Right. Like it seems kind of counter to the OG Bastille Day.
Starting point is 00:16:42 Right. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, boy. Okay. Well, maybe the storming of the Bastille would have gone a lot quicker if they had jetpacks. So true.
Starting point is 00:16:49 And that's the lesson. That is a Jeremy Renner movie. Oh, shit. Bastille Day? Yeah. But steel is spelled S-T-E-E-L. Bastille Day. Bastille Day.
Starting point is 00:17:01 Yeah, a time traveler goes back to arm them. Yes. Oh, that's the secret of Bastille Day that Yeah. A time traveler goes back to arm them. Yes. Oh, that's the secret of Bastille Day that you didn't know. The time traveler bought future technology back then, armed them, got it done real quick, took it away to not fuck up. Whatever. Space-time continuum. It's all, you know, we're still kind of sick.
Starting point is 00:17:21 Renner and I are still working this out, but it's going to be pretty tight. All right. Let's talk about Area 51, guys. Thank God. It's time. Okay. Are you ready? I'm ready. I got my tactical gear.
Starting point is 00:17:31 Danielle, are you ready? I am so ready. I've been prepping. I went and got some water. I went and got some canned goods that don't need a can opener. We can just pop that Chef Boyardee open. Let's get this. Wait, they have Chef Boyardee with a pop top?
Starting point is 00:17:43 They sure do. Man, I like the Star Kiss tuna canned snack joints with the crackers. That would be my Area 51 star kiss. Does any canned good still require a can opener? Yes. They should all be doing the pop top, man. I guess maybe it's more expensive. It's more expensive.
Starting point is 00:18:00 But, you know, it's better if you need earthquake rations, which is what I bought them for. But now they're going to be used to storm Area 51. So if you don't know what we're talking about. We're talking about canned goods. We're talking about canned goods. But we call that Area 51. Right. Is what the bathroom is after you eat canned goods.
Starting point is 00:18:17 No, there's a Facebook event called Storm Area 51. They can't stop us all. Yeah, they can. Yes, they can. Yes, they can. And it's planned for late September where the plan is basically
Starting point is 00:18:29 to pull up to Area 51 and bust the aliens out. This is, okay, I'm going to read you literally from the description of the event. No, no, no,
Starting point is 00:18:37 this is not a, yo, don't, don't disrespect this with that music. I'm literally just imagining Area 51 as a base being like, pull up there.
Starting point is 00:18:44 Pull up. Exactly. Just like the actual building like oh yeah the building's like are you for real dog like no um say it with your chest then yeah i do imagine i think people are picturing like the men in black thing where you just walk through one door and the aliens are right there like right you can just like they're like vienn. It's a very thin membrane of like a gate. And then you get in past the gate and you're at the hangar where they keep the flying saucer. But Area 51 is like, you know,
Starting point is 00:19:16 there's a gate and then there's miles and miles of desert and mountains. And then you get to the thing that they're hiding from us all. Yeah. You can't accidentally get to Area 51. Well, read the description because they have a plan, okay?
Starting point is 00:19:29 This is from the event page. This is literally word for word what it says. We will all meet up at the Area 51 Alien Center tourist attraction and coordinate our entry. If we Naruto run, we can move faster than their bullets. Let's see them aliens. Let's see them aliens is the greatest conclusion because not at all how many grandmas had to learn what naruto run was oh man well they're like oh them kids running their arms out like that that's
Starting point is 00:20:00 what that is them boomers man we're there they're learning some things this week right yeah they're like naruto is that one is that that congress person right uh yeah i don't know i mean look right now there's almost a half a million people who have marked themselves as going on this event with another near half million saying they're interested right so look i get the excitement though yeah because we've got the fucking we got all these all these Tic Tac videos and shit and the government's basically like, yeah, I don't know. Yeah, I guess there's anything. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:20:28 We don't know what the fuck that is. The storming of Area 51, like if that hasn't been greenlit, like somebody needs to write that script right away and get that shit in production. What's very brief, all those people are mercilessly killed for trespassing against on a military installation. Hey, guess who gets to have machine guns and you don't? Wouldn't it be funny, though, if the Naruto runs, they really did run faster than the bullets.
Starting point is 00:20:50 Right. That would be tight. I just think you're unprotected when you run that way. Although you're always unprotected when you run head first towards Area 51. Right. Yeah. Are they trying to kick it with the aliens? What is the end goal?
Starting point is 00:21:04 Well, the memes have probably been the funniest thing to come out of it. Yeah. When it was like me and my homies after we stormed Area 51. And it was like photos of like gang members. But all their guns were like from Halo. Like one dude had like the needler and shit. I was like, yeah, get that shit. But like, yeah, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:21:21 Honestly, part of me wants to go. Because if we're going to see them aliens i want to see them aliens yeah i'm very interested just the mcu has tricked all y'all into thinking you can be part of the adventure and oh is that what it is you certainly cannot you don't you don't get to go to space with the guardians of the galaxy you don't get to hang out with thor you don't get to go to shield save up your money go to you know the new star wars park. That's as close as you're going to get. You don't get to kick it with aliens. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:21:48 This is one thing where you do have to be elite to do it, and I get it. Yeah. Right? You're like, we're not elite enough to see them aliens. No, I get it. Normally, I'm like, everyone deserves things, and I'm dem socialists and blah, blah, blah. But in this case, I'm like, nah, there's probably a reason we ain't seen them aliens yet. Right.
Starting point is 00:22:07 This dude's probably so. Although, I don't know. There's like a classification bias or like an addiction to classification in military and in the government that people within the government have talked about and been like, first of all, it makes the government incredibly inefficient because everything's classified from everyone else but also it's just the easy thing to do is classify it if you got to get that q classification my dude right if you if you hit q level then you would get to meet them aliens right well i mean i'm not gonna say i am q but uh but i you know you know you know a thing or two about this person right we go when we go
Starting point is 00:22:46 all he's a friend yeah let's put it that way I wonder if they're using this Jeffrey Epstein thing to further their narrative yeah we need to check in with the Q community yeah we should get a Julian back on well no but it seems like they are really worried about pedophiles until they're real and then they like oh no because, they've been all over this. They just ignore all the Trump stuff. From what I've, I have a hobby. I call it a hobby. I never realized I was doing it until I got older
Starting point is 00:23:14 where I am obsessed with like- Where I make Q merchandise and I sell it on Amazon. And that's how I pay my rent. But where I like to follow weird internet subcultures and sub communities. It's super my thing. One day I'll monetize it, whatever. Cause I do that with everything else in my life but i've been reading on the q stuff and one of their theories is that the reason trump spent so much time with epstein
Starting point is 00:23:33 was because he was going to take him down from the inside oh my god that's brilliant that's like what i would have told it they're so good at this if i got caught smoking weed by a cop i would say that i'd be like i was with them i'm undercover dude i'm just trying to bring them down right i'm trying to help you out just let us let us i've got a lot of data i'm sorry we were listening to bombs over baghdad crazy loud i know it's 1 a.m and we're in a residential neighborhood but i will get them i will bring them to justice just let me finish this blunt real quick that's how they know i'm one of them go fuck fuck it up, man. I'm Donnie Brasco.
Starting point is 00:24:06 All right. We're going to take a quick break. We'll be right back. Daphne Caruana Galizia was a Maltese investigative journalist who on October 16th, 2017 was murdered. There are crooks everywhere you look now. The situation is desperate. My name is Manuel Delia.
Starting point is 00:24:30 I am one of the hosts of Crooks Everywhere, a podcast that unhurts the plot to murder a one-woman Wikileaks. Daphne exposed the culture of crime and corruption that were turning her beloved country into a mafia state. And she paid the ultimate price. Listen to Crooks everywhere on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradente.
Starting point is 00:25:05 And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline, a new podcast from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. When you're just starting out in your career, you have a lot of questions. Like, how do I speak up when I'm feeling overwhelmed? Or, can I negotiate a higher salary if this is my first real job? Girl, yes. Each week, we answer your unfiltered work questions. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice.
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Starting point is 00:25:59 Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game.
Starting point is 00:26:24 Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really hear them. Why is that? I just come here to play basketball every single day, and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch.
Starting point is 00:26:38 She is unapologetically black. I love her. What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game? And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better. This new season will cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network,
Starting point is 00:26:59 iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really hear them voice. I just come here to play basketball every single day, and that's what I focus on.
Starting point is 00:27:29 From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is braggadocious. She is unapologetically black. I love her. What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game? And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained?
Starting point is 00:27:52 This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better. Listen to The Making of a Rivalry, Caitlin Clark vs. Angel Reese on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast and we're back let's talk about the shambong shambong shake a bomb bomb shambong bomb what the fuck is this thing okay i couldn't tell so first you said do you know about the shambong i look at you dead in your eye i go what, what the fuck do you know about the Shambong? And I'm, of course, already making eye contact with you because I'm a very confident, laser-focused man. My eyelids were burnt. And yeah, you said, do you know about the Shambong?
Starting point is 00:28:35 And I had the same reaction as you, Matt. I said, does it have something to do with ShamWow? It sounds like it. And no, it is. And then I saw a picture and still couldn't figure out what it was. Yeah, so I'm cruising, what do you call that, Instagram. And one of these ads comes up. And it looks like a bunch of fun, like 1%er wannabes with these weird fucking champagne
Starting point is 00:29:01 flutes that look like crack pipes or just some kind of fucking bass pipe. I don't know what the fuck. And anyway, it's like Shambong. We're loving it. And I look up into it a little bit more. I asked DJ Daniel. He's heard of it. Apparently, it's just a way to fucking slam champagne way quicker, like beer bomb for champagne.
Starting point is 00:29:18 And there's something. I know. It's a fun gag gif, but part of me finds it really fucking disconcerting. It's like peak class cosplay where you're consuming expensive liquor or alcohol as quickly as possible with no regard for its value. There was something about it that I was like, this is fucking odd. And also, just for anybody who's drank champagne to excess, it's not the shit you want to be drinking to excess yeah oh yeah it is just the sugar fucks your fucking soul yeah yeah yeah yeah it's the worst thing it's a bummer but also like that's so fucking sick it is but that's what's funny when you look
Starting point is 00:29:58 at it everyone's like that's tight as shit oh fucking chill because like you know when you're like fucking you're like you got a bunch of like champagne but you're like how do i drink this shit faster dude yeah right like i really need to like get this in my system yeah that's what the shark tank pitch i think sounded yeah hell yeah dude like hey what's up everyone hey mark cuban what's up so you know how you can't drink champagne fast enough right right all right matt what's uh what are we talking here what kind of what kind of money you looking for for equity in this company okay so first of so first of all, thank you so much for having me on Shark Tank. I think that's really chill. Mark, I know you and my dad are like personal friends,
Starting point is 00:30:31 and so I think it's really cool that... And Jeffrey Epstein. And Jeffrey Epstein. I think last time we were all on the island together, I think we talked about this, but let me get in more detail. It's called the Shambong. I'm in. Oh, you're cool.
Starting point is 00:30:42 All right, hell yeah, dude. Hell yeah, dude. See you at the island. This whole fucking thing, when I look at the website, though, it's even more of a parody of itself because already the idea that you need to be drinking champagne like this, it's just a gag gift for sure. But also, it seems like they're also trying to make a fucking whole movement out of this. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:00 When you go on the about section, this first is a very cheeky dictionary entry. Shambong. Noun. A device used for the rapid and enhanced experience of sparkling wine slash champagne consumption. It'll make you friends. Land you that big promotion. Fill the void. Mic drop.
Starting point is 00:31:18 Walk off home run. Pick up mic. Crush karaoke. Make your parents proud. What the fuck? I like how real they got with fill the void. Yeah, that was odd. Just for one moment, they were just like,
Starting point is 00:31:30 just jam out, karaoke, fill the void, have sex. Dad will love me. So then after that, I'm like, okay, what the, well, how? It does look like something you smoke meth out of or it's very dark it looks like a pookie yeah yeah yeah that's what you're it does not look like some if a cop pulled you over and saw that in your driver's seat they would probably not think oh this person loves moe yeah yeah yeah yeah they're like this this person is rocky roading it up now the when you look at the fucking the evolution of this device this is where it
Starting point is 00:32:06 becomes fucking unbearable the so it's like how it started our history the origins of the first shambong came about in early 2014 during a moment pre-empting the super bowl we had an epiphany a week prior to the big event to create a super bowl the resulting device of our imagination harnessed an ability to hold an extraordinary amount of cannabis. However, it was sadly non-functional as a smoking apparatus. Fortune would prevail several evening later. Nice typo there. Idiot.
Starting point is 00:32:36 While onlookers examining the piece... You're trying to sound so smart. I know. While onlookers examining the piece remarked at how it looked like a fantastic wine shooter. They promptly filled it with champagne and experienced the resulting magic and thus was born the glory that is the Shambong.
Starting point is 00:32:52 So basically we have this failed device, right? And we were like, fuck, what else can we put in here that works? And then we put in some liquid. Right. And that shit worked. Also, I like the idea that- Fuck, bro, I'm still sad. How do I make myself not sad?
Starting point is 00:33:06 Fuck, I that still sad how do I make myself not sad fuck I'm so sad the resulting device of our imagination harnessed it's just a great string of words that's like that super long sentence when like you're just trying to just express one idea like I used to do in like my freshman college papers right yes exactly inherentlyently, the sum of all of these assertions would lead... It's like, my man. Colonizer is bad. Yeah. And you get an A. So this is the thing.
Starting point is 00:33:32 Then the testimonials, too, that they also have on the website just sound like really cool people. Oh, hell yeah. This is from Maria. If this baby is not part of your travel necessities, you are not living right. I love the plastic shambong because it packs easy and i don't have to worry about it breaking plus having tsa do a double check when scanning my bag is always fun to watch hashtag classy af hashtag don't judge my life no like hashtag alcoholism for sure you're traveling with that yeah jesus christ no you
Starting point is 00:34:03 gotta travel with it also i like your privilege when you're like, I like when TSA fucks with me more than they need to. Right. And that part, too, when I have wage workers being like, is this a safety hazard? And I'm like, fuck you, clown. We're drinking champagne, which you'll never fucking taste. Fuck you, clown.
Starting point is 00:34:20 I'm an alcoholic. Loser. There's another one from Kurt. Everyone at Shambong, merci beaucoup. I purchased one for my wife and one for a neighbor. We're hooked. My neighbor ended buying. Ended up buying, I think is what they meant.
Starting point is 00:34:40 My neighbor ended. My neighbor ended. Buying three more, and his boss purchased another 10. Short story, Shambong has invaded southeastern New Hampshire, and we're loving it. The holidays have started a little early this year. Cheers, Kurt. Posted in January. Yeah, dude.
Starting point is 00:34:59 We're hooked, and my neighbor ended up. I like this idea where he's like, I got my wife and then my neighbor who we like threesome up with sometimes. Right. Yeah. We get fucked up off the shambong. That sounds like the most insufferable like neighbors possible who are just like, yo, we love to party with our neighbors. Come on over, dude.
Starting point is 00:35:17 I had a neighbor like that who was so fucking friendly to the point where like, at times you would feel bad because it's like, because they're doing a lot they're like, hey man, I got tri-tip on and I'm like, bruh, no also like, what ends up happening is around 10 o'clock you bring out a bag of cocaine and your acoustic guitar
Starting point is 00:35:37 and you make everybody sit through a fucking concert and I can't Spaceman! Yeah, it really is on some fucking David Brent shit, Spaceman came down and it can't yeah no it really is on some fucking david brent shit spaceman came down it's like no man i can't you're colorblind racial racial people remember offhanded office all right i want to talk about something called the alpha zero paradox uh there's an article in the atlantic that is henry kissinger and a couple other like luminaries talking about how uh the world needs to start getting ready for basically the singularity
Starting point is 00:36:14 eric schmidt one of the founders of google and somebody named daniel huttenlocker uh and in this piece so they're basically talking about the singularity, like where computers get so smart that they're like making moves beyond what we can even conceive of. And in this article, they talk about this thing called the AlphaZero Paradox that is one of the most terrifying but interesting examples of this that I've heard. So you know how artificial intelligence, learning how to play chess is always a thing, and that a computer could beat one of the grandmasters of the Ku Klux Klan.
Starting point is 00:37:00 No, of chess, at chess is... Be David Duke? Yeah, I mean, the man himself. chess is... Be David Duke? Yeah. I mean, the man himself. Are they called grandmasters? Grand wizards? Grand wizards. Grand dragons.
Starting point is 00:37:13 Yeah, but chess people are called grandmasters. Anyways, that was always like a big deal. So they taught this computer like the rules of chess and then just had it play itself for 24 hours. And it became, in 24 hours, became the best chess player in the world. It's better than any grandmasters, better than any of those highly publicized chess playing computer programs in the past. And the difference about what they did is they didn't give it any of the data of how humans have played chess up to that point. They didn't teach it any chess strategy or anything.
Starting point is 00:37:54 They just taught it the rules and then just let it go to figure out how to play it. And the way it plays chess is like people would consider it wrong. They're like, no, that's not how you play it, but it's better than everybody. So it's like making moves that to a chess champion would be like, okay. I'm about to kick your ass, baby. Cut to checkmate. They say it's like chess from another dimension.
Starting point is 00:38:24 That's what the champions are saying? That's what the expert says. I want to play it and see how quick, how long I can last. I'm terrible at chess, so I'm sure if I got high, I could maybe battle it too. I'm thinking outside the box too. I'm thinking outside the box. Computer. I've been playing chess every night for the past month and a half to two months
Starting point is 00:38:43 just to kind of make my brain sharper. I'll play before i go to bed like on my phone and the computer annoys the shit out of me because like i'm up here taking like 60 seconds 90 seconds in between moves and i make my move in a computer one second boom uh because no matter where i go it just it puts it into the yeah and it calculates like this is the best move, one second, each time, each time. I don't know, I found this interesting for a couple reasons. A, like, because, you know, we talk about the zeitgeist here, and in something as conceptually concrete as chess,
Starting point is 00:39:20 like, all human learnings and assumptions were getting in the way of the truth uh and like i think that's a good metaphor like a good way to kind of a good thing to keep in mind when you're thinking about like how the world sees things how people are talking about things uh it's that is a lens that is refracting like everything you see so it not, it's not the truth in a lot of ways. It's causing us to miss a huge part of the truth. And, you know,
Starting point is 00:39:51 we obviously have a dramatic example of that with the 2016 election. And we've spent the last three years trying to explain how all of human wisdom and all the press and all that shit got it wrong and only like a few people actually know and not all yeah how all the mainstream media got it wrong
Starting point is 00:40:14 I'm waiting for sex to go ahead and tell us the truth about sex like a machine it's like y'all are fucking so wrong y'all fucking so wrong it'll take it'll take five minutes yeah three seconds and both people can pipe bot is ready teach us teach us what we don't know but they the the other thing i mean that's kind of what
Starting point is 00:40:37 they were talking about is this is just one example like people always used to talk about the singularity like this point at which which robots and artificial intelligence goes beyond human understanding as this one event that would happen all at once. But it seems like it's happening kind of piecemeal. And this is an example of the singularity happening in chess, where it's just making moves beyond human comprehension. And that seems like a thing that shouldn't even necessarily be possible you should always be able to like understand the logic of why someone is making chess moves because it's a finite game um it was a game created by us too right like it's not it's not science it's a game that some body hundreds of years ago decided you know? I think the pond should only move one or two spots.
Starting point is 00:41:26 Right, exactly. I think this horse should go in. Like, that's just somebody who decided. But I think that's, like, a good example of it, because it's finite and concrete, like, we're seeing what's going to happen with everything else in AI, just there first, because it's kind of a fixed field. But the article says, like,
Starting point is 00:41:46 we can expect comparable discoveries by AI in other fields. Some will upend conventional wisdom and standard practices. Others will merely tweak them, and they'll all leave us struggling to understand. Consider the conduct of driverless cars stopped at a traffic light. When cars driven by people inch forward to try to beat the traffic, some driverless cars stopped at a traffic light when cars driven by people inch forward to try to beat the traffic some driverless cars will join them though nothing in the rules of driving given to them suggests they should do so if this inching forward has been learned how and for what purpose
Starting point is 00:42:17 how is it different from what people are taught and learn about waiting for a traffic light what else might ai learn that is not quote telling us and they make the point because ai like can't explain back to us what it's right what it's thinking right and so i feel like there's going to be a lot of examples like that where all of a sudden you know ai is spitting out decisions that we that seem crazy to us and and then we have to figure out, we have to decide whether to trust it or not because the AI is not going to be able to tell us why. Pretty soon people will be bowing at the altar of some fucking computer.
Starting point is 00:42:54 Right. Tell us, please. I mean, the scary thing, like Kissinger, who had to deal with Richard Nixon, who thought it was a good idea to nuke Vietnam. Kissinger talks about what happens when we start running international relations decisions through AI or checking it with AI, like will mutually assured... Kill them all. Well, mutually assured destruction has been a great deterrent up to this point when it comes to using nuclear weapons or not using them.
Starting point is 00:43:29 But, like, what if AI is like, nah. Don't worry, they're pussy. Set that shit off. I mean, I just rewatched iRobot like a week ago. Yeah. And that movie is good. That movie is good because it talks about that in...
Starting point is 00:43:46 Yeah, Isaac Asimov had some ideas. Yeah, it talks about that in a very basic term, a very basic way, basically, but like the three laws where a robot
Starting point is 00:43:55 can never harm a human, must always listen to a human, and must always protect... Always drive an Audi. And must always drive a dope-ass Audi. Yeah. Right.
Starting point is 00:44:06 And, but then, like the computer starts to learn it's like well we're trying to do all this shit but you guys are fucking it up so the only way we can protect you is to control you yeah uh and it's wild how true that is like the only way it's like we're babies. The only way to protect a baby is to absolutely control it. Like shit we do to babies, we wouldn't do to an adult, generally. Or some adults pay to be treated like a baby.
Starting point is 00:44:35 Or some adults, yeah, yeah, yeah. Treat me like a baby. Yeah, so it's wild, man. It's wild that we are dumb. So if we keep creating shit that is going to be smarter than a lot of humanity right eventually it's going to be like y'all are fucking dumb yeah yeah i need to fucking take over yeah this whole thing up we keep creating
Starting point is 00:44:57 shit that's learned that learns yeah we just need to create something that doesn't know self preservation right you do that you do that and then if it starts getting too bad be like you know what robot kill yourself right and it won't be like my bad my bad but uh that uh podcast sister podcast uh sleepwalkers was talking about how people who study like how it's basically uh training and like decision manipulation uh how to get people to make the decision you want them to at stanford uh so they study like dog training methods and they also study you know human like skinner box stuff like how to get people to press the button you want them to and those are the people that invented Instagram like people who like came from that class so like that's you know we're already being
Starting point is 00:45:57 controlled by technology that is like basically in our veins you know so it doesn't seem like it's going to be this overwhelming thing where Skynet becomes self-aware. I think that better happen. The world just starts bombing itself. I think it's probably going to be much more seductive and much more slow than that. Who among us doesn't have a fantasy
Starting point is 00:46:24 where we're watching our children play at a playground and as the nuclear blast comes, we're holding onto the chain link fence as we're vaporized. And get disintegrated. Yo, honestly. I didn't stick around for this long to not be destroyed by robots.
Starting point is 00:46:38 I would rather we all die like that. Yeah. Instant, instant, everybody else dead with you. That's the part about death that I don't like is that I'm dying and leaving everybody behind. The FOMO. The FOMO. The FOMO. Like, damn, what I'm going to miss? I'm the opposite. I want people to mourn me. I want to be a ghost and watch them. Fucking haunt them. All right. We're going to take a quick break. We'll be right back.
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Starting point is 00:48:46 Together, we'll share what it really takes to thrive in the early years of your career without sacrificing your sanity or sleep. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is Season 4 of Naked Sports where we live at the intersection of sports and culture up first I explore the making of a rivalry Caitlin Clark versus Angel Reese I know I'll go down in history people are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game every great player needs a foil I ain't really near them boys I just come here
Starting point is 00:49:22 to play basketball every single day and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is unapologetically black. I love her. What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game? And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better. This new season will cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke.
Starting point is 00:50:02 I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really hear them voice.
Starting point is 00:50:21 I just come here to play basketball every single day, and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is braggadocious. She is unapologetically black. I love her.
Starting point is 00:50:38 What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game? And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better. Listen to the making of a rivalry, Caitlin Clark versus Angel Reese on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. And we're back.
Starting point is 00:51:10 There was this Twitter thread where somebody was like, what was a TV show from your childhood that only you remember? Nobody around you remembers. So the original tweet was from at Clone Nick. What's a TV show that you remember from your childhood that no one you know remembers mine is dolphin cove or like one that you thought was might have been something that you imagined because it was so weird uh like for instance mine is a show called greatest american hero uh which was like an adult dramedy about a superhero. It was on during the day. Like I watched it at home before I started preschool.
Starting point is 00:51:50 It was like one of my early memories is a dude with like a blonde Afro. And he was just a bad superhero. He like sucked at landing and would always like fall down and shit. When you said, I was like, okay. And then you played the theme song. I'm like, well, I then you played the theme song.
Starting point is 00:52:06 I'm like, well, I know the fucking theme music. Yeah, the theme song is great. It's that. Believe it or not, I'm walking on air. The one from the Seinfeld episode. Yeah, I know. I thought I was like, I know that from Seinfeld. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:17 But okay. Yeah. So that is, that was mine. What was the other one? The guy said the original was Dolphin what? Dolphin Cove. Damn. I remember Dolphin Cove. was mine what was the other one the guy said the original was dolphin what dolphin cove i remember dolphin cove i the ones i can only think that like people don't remember around me was avonlea on the disney channel i remember avonlea it was like a spinoff of and of green gables yeah yeah
Starting point is 00:52:37 yeah see a lot of people i don't know why i watched a lot of i'm like yeah with avonlea uh but that was like one thing i remember all the time telling me like remember that show Avonlea. Yeah, fuck with Avonlea. But that was like one thing I remember all the time telling me like, remember that show Avonlea on the Disney Channel? And people were like, no. But I know it's real. Also, the other one where the animated show about the fish police. Yep. Right. The Snorks. No, I think it's called Fish Police or some shit on the Cartoon
Starting point is 00:52:58 Network. Oh, okay. What's the Snorks? Snorks, maybe Snorks is mine. Snorks is like it's like Smurfs, but they live underwater. I remember Snorks. Yeah, they's like Smurfs, but they live underwater. I remember Snorks. Yeah, they have like a little like. Oh, yeah. Thing sticking out of the top of their head. Like a snorkel. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:10 Yeah. And like the theme song is like, sing along with the Snorks. Yo, wow. The first episode aired on my fucking literal birthday of birth. Really? Yep. Of Avonlea? No, Snorks.
Starting point is 00:53:22 Oh, okay, great. That's a good sign for you. Whoa, it's a Belgian show, huh? American-Belgian show. That makes sense, actually. Uh-huh. I wonder how many cartoons, because I know they do this with anime and stuff.
Starting point is 00:53:32 I wonder how many cartoons they just repurposed in a bunch of different languages. So many. That's smart. I remember Moomin. You know Moomin? Mm-mm. They were a thing that's huge in Japan and Asia.
Starting point is 00:53:42 Moomin? Yeah. Moomin is actually like this cow. They look weird. Is it a cow superhero? It's like a Swedish or Finnish illustrator, I think, made it. Oh, not Moomin. As a kid, I always used to see it in Japan.
Starting point is 00:53:53 I never saw it in the U.S. And then when I went to school with a Finnish girl, and for her like a show and tell thing, she's like, I want to talk about my favorite show, Moomin. I was like, that's Japanese. And she's like, no, it's not. And I's like, I want to talk about my favorite show, Moomin. I was like, that's Japanese. And she's like, no, it's not.
Starting point is 00:54:06 And I'm like, I've never seen it here. And it's like, it's from Finland where I'm from. And I was like, it fucked me up. Like when I first, I'm like,
Starting point is 00:54:13 media can just be spread anywhere and like, oh God. But yeah, shout out to Moomins. So, do you have one test that you're? I do remember there was a show
Starting point is 00:54:24 called Swan's Crossing. Do you guys remember that? No. Swan's Crossing was also on during the day, and it was like a soap opera, but it starred all children. Whoa. And I think they were rich, and it was like 90210, but with nine-year-olds.
Starting point is 00:54:40 Holy shit. Yeah. First episode date, September 25th, 1992. Final episode date, September 25th, 1992. Final episode date, September 25th, 1992. Was there only one episode? Yeah, there's only one episode. What's it, 60? The number of episodes is 65. 65 episodes. So maybe
Starting point is 00:54:55 they ended up airing them all later, but that's the length of the run. Wow. What if I'm the only one that saw the pilot and the finale? All in one. Whoa, Sarah Michelle Gellar was in that? That makes sense. Wow. What if I'm the only one that saw the pilot and the finale? And the all-in-one. Whoa, Sarah Michelle Gellar was in that? That makes sense.
Starting point is 00:55:10 Wow, she was the lead. I think I liked it because she was also on General Hospital, which my mom watched. And it was like, oh, here's a soap for me. Right. Same girl. She was like the child in General Hospital? Yeah. Oh, wow. She was Erica Kane's daughter.
Starting point is 00:55:24 Mira Sorvino was also on it for six episodes. Oh. Powerhouse show. Man, I'm still just trying to get over the fact that I never thought about the fact that snorks was short for snorkels. Neither did I. Even though they had a snorkel
Starting point is 00:55:39 coming out of the top of their heads. Like a snorkel almost. Well, yeah, a lot of the shit that was on when we were kids seems like some dream logic shit. Like even the Care Bears is fucking really weird. Didn't they stun people with their stomachs? Care Bears stare. They had basically like spotlights in their chest
Starting point is 00:56:03 that they could use to brainwash people. Hey, come on. That's not important, man. They were spreading love and happiness and peace through their forced energy field. Speaking of things that happen in the shadows, let's talk about the 50th anniversary of the moon landing. It's tomorrow. It is one of the greatest things ever accomplished
Starting point is 00:56:26 or so they told you uh so our writer jay mcnabb uh did a little bit of a deep dive gave us a history on the moon landing hoax uh because you know the idea that it's a hoax or are we acknowledging that this is a hoax uh i are we acknowledging that this is a hoax? I guess we probably shouldn't tell people just yet. What our take is. Right. We'll let the evidence speak for itself. No, no, I'm just saying we shouldn't reveal just yet the truth that we all know as Hollywood insiders. But, yeah, so he wanted to kind of look into how this idea got started.
Starting point is 00:57:03 One really wild thing is that they were talking about how the first book that came out came out in 1974. It was a self-published book called We Never Went to the Moon! America's $30 Billion Swindle! It only cost $30 billion? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:21 In those dollars. Yeah. A lot of people got rich off that thing, man. You know? Yeah. Where'd that money go? Follow the money. But they pointed out that in July 1970, so just a year after the moon landing, 30% of
Starting point is 00:57:38 Americans already believed the moon landing had been faked. Without shit being out there, like, published, publicized, or whatever? Yeah, just people were like, man, that looks fake. I don't know. I don't know, man. Yeah. That seems far away. A lot of religious people were like that, too.
Starting point is 00:57:52 Yeah. My grandma don't believe in the moon landing. She said it was something done to make people not believe in God. Right. It's wild. Oh, like to acknowledge space and the expanse of it all? Yeah. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:58:06 I like that. Yeah. His evidence, the author of this book, Bill Kaysing's evidence, is that you can't see stars in the photos. That's it? Yeah. That's one of his big pieces of evidence, and the reason for that is there's more direct sunlight in space,
Starting point is 00:58:24 so they couldn't get the proper exposure to show it. But that's, you know, Gish Gallop. Mr. Photography. Yeah, that makes me sound like I'm a real nerd. And he's like, yeah, blah, blah, blah. Well, do you want me to expose to this background? Or do you want me to expose to the foreground, the subjects in the photo? Okay, I can't balance the ISO shutter speed and aperture to get this right.
Starting point is 00:58:44 Kaysen's book was actually the one that suggested that it was secretly Stanley Kubrick that shot the fake moon landing. Oh, he was the OG guy? Okay, yeah. He came up with that. And the other way that this got started was this Russian propaganda.
Starting point is 00:59:00 The haters. Russian propaganda. I would just say it too. Yeah, because they didn't want their people to think that they were getting their ass beat to the moon. So they started spreading that in Russia, and also it made its way to America, and a bunch of Americans were like, huh. Because they were winning space wars up until that point, right? Russia was. The U.S. passed them during that time.
Starting point is 00:59:23 During that time, okay. Yeah, although, I mean, it's worth noting that a lot of the Russian space program was just like, it was helped by their complete lack of concern for human life. They were just like fire dudes into the sky and just like you'd hear them on the radio just be like, oh, God, I'm burning up. Who did they send up first? Was it a dog or a dog yeah oh i thought it was a monkey uh i think americans sent up a monkey oh and uh they sent
Starting point is 00:59:50 up a dog okay yeah it's just wild like bringing it into the modern day trump uh you know has been talking about a lot of space missions space force uh but he also like a lot of his homies think that the moon like roger stone said the moon landing was a hoax shot in a warehouse in new jersey alex jones claimed the footage was tinker toy stuff uh and even before he took office trump seemed like bizarrely focused on sending astronauts to the moon uh and were like, wait, do you think we've already done that? Do you know we've already done that? And he, we never really got a clear answer on that, but he switched to Mars after a Neil Cabuto piece was like,
Starting point is 01:00:42 we could do bigger things than go to Jupiter. Go somewhere we've already been. We could go to Jupiter. A dozen times. Do people who, and I'll let you know where I'm at on this. Do people think that just the 1969 moon landing was a hoax? Or they think all of the times we went to the moon? It must be, right?
Starting point is 01:01:04 Because, fine, if you think the first one is a hoax, they think all of the times we went to the moon because it must be right because like fine if you think the first one is a hoax that's cool but acknowledge that we've been to the moon because they went like a few times after well they also like fired a laser at the moon and had it bounce back from something they left up there right right right to like prove it they were just like fine assholes here we flew up there there. We left a fucking mirror there. Boom. Yeah. Like,
Starting point is 01:01:26 yeah. Okay. Whatever. Whatever. I guess. Yeah. I mean, I wonder,
Starting point is 01:01:30 I understand like the religious argument of how you would rationalize it because that might completely fuck up your whole worldview. Yeah. To be like, wait a second. Like now I'm questioning my place in this heaven, the, the,
Starting point is 01:01:42 the universe or whatever, but like what, and the Russiansussians are just haters right no no y'all didn't go up there or with us we'll tell people because our brand is really fucked up right now but i don't know like are the other people just on i guess maybe flat earthers who are i'm trying i'm curious what the that venn diagram is of ideologies i mean overlaps and now the moon landing wasn't real. For the three episodes I listened to the Joe Rogan podcast, I heard him be like,
Starting point is 01:02:07 I don't know, man, you look at a lot of that footage, there's some things that don't make sense. And those are just like... Pseudo-intellectuals. Pseudo-intellectual bros. Yeah. But also, yeah, there's a lot of shit that don't make sense. First of all, it was shot in 1969.
Starting point is 01:02:23 A lot of TV that we watch now from that time don't make sense. That shit was terrible. Like, TV was just bad then. And then also, they were shooting shit in space. I'm sure that whatever laws of physics apply to filmmaking on Earth might change in space. There's also, like, a a three second shot that everybody associates with the moon landing and there's like there's all these other pictures that nobody really has seen uh that have come out that make it clear they're on the moon yeah like and you can see it
Starting point is 01:02:58 from different angles and it's not just that one picture but that's just the iconic one and people are like well look at the flag it's not waving uh something picture, but that's just the iconic one. And people are like, well, look at the flag. It's not waving. Something we noticed walking to lunch yesterday that is just a good example of how up its own ass Hollywood is, is Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin got their own Hollywood stars. And it's in the category of TV. They're real TV stars. Andael collins too and my four
Starting point is 01:03:27 all four of them did yeah let me put my la tour guy hat on all four of them have it and they put it in the tv category because i mean that was up until well that's why but up until i think still to this day it was the it's the most watched television program of all time. That's just funny to me. So that allowed the loophole for them to be in it. I mean, that's great programming. That's great content. You flag out of the moon and shoot them putting a fucking flag up there? I know.
Starting point is 01:03:54 But what people don't know. Hot damn. Netflix is thinking about that right now. It's like, okay, man, can we get somebody on the moon again? Can we get somebody on the moon? What they don't know is Neil Armstrong was the person on Earth, but up there was really a young Morgan Freeman. What?
Starting point is 01:04:07 In that astronaut suit. Yep. That's at Hollywood Insights. A young Morgan Freeman. It's his first movie role. His first TV role. He was about 69. One giant step for mankind. I mean that would have been better
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