The Daily Zeitgeist - Weekly Zeitgeist 9 (Best of 1/31/18-2/2/18)

Episode Date: February 4, 2018

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Starting point is 00:01:59 You mix homesteading with guns and church. Voila! You got straight straight away they try to save everybody listen to spiraled on the iheart radio app apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts hello the internet and welcome to this episode of the weekly zeitgeist uh these are some of our favorite segments from this week all edited together into one into one nonstop infotainment laughstravaganza. So without further ado, here is the Weekly Zeitgeist. So Grammys, you guys, there was a lot of political intrigue around this. This morning, the big headline I'm seeing a lot is that it was the most low ratings that the Grammys have ever gotten.
Starting point is 00:02:51 Drudge had that as his main story for the day. Grammys crash and burn. Which I expect every single live event or awards show to be the worst that has ever happened just because people are cord cutting. And for sure. Yeah. Especially something like this that breaks down so conveniently into YouTube clips. It just feels like, yeah, I wouldn't expect that many people to actually be watching it on CBS. But so, yeah, apparently, whether it's because of a long term trend or because people objected to the political content, that is the implication that the Drudge Report wants us to take away. Oh, because too many liberal artists were using the soapbox?
Starting point is 00:03:35 Yeah, with Kendrick Lamar's political statement and the fact that Hillary was involved in a sketch where they were reading the Fire and Fury book. Which is amazing. Yeah, which was kind of funny. I mean, it was a solid sketch, the premise being that next year, the Grammy for audiobook presentation, which is a Grammy, is definitely going to go to whoever reads Fire and Fury, and they tried different people out, and the punchline was they had hillary clinton reading
Starting point is 00:04:05 some of it but by far the best moment is cardi b was uh reading it queen cardi first of her name right i think we have uh audio of that party bait if trump was not having his 6 30 dinner with steve bannon then more to his liking he was in bed by that time with a cheeseburger why am i even reading this i can't believe this i can't believe that he really this how he lives his life yo the video that's not even written because you can tell she's looking off camera like at the producers or whatever can't believe you really can't believe it yeah or she's the greatest actress ever. And if she is, either way, Cardi, you're always winning. Despite not winning a fucking thing yesterday.
Starting point is 00:04:49 Right. So that was the other kind of reaction that I saw is that they did not, and this is shocking for the Grammys because the Grammys always gets it right. They always get it right. Right. I mean, we count. I just don't listen to music until the Grammys
Starting point is 00:05:04 happen for that year. And then I'm just like, to music until the Grammys happen for that year. And then I'm just like, all right, whoever the Grammys gave it to, that was the best music of the year. I listen to one album a year. Right. And it was whatever the Grammys say is the album of the year. Right. And then I wait 365 days. Here we go.
Starting point is 00:05:14 Bruno Mars. A album about, like, sex music for somebody who's never had sex, as we've established before on the Daily Zeitgeist. He just has that energy, man. He seems like a fun girl in high school. He's just like, hey, guys, what's up? Like, I don't know. He just seems like a fun gal, but not the dude who I want singing my, like, sultry music about. No Versace on the floor?
Starting point is 00:05:41 No, I don't buy it. That's not accessible to me. How about, like, an old towel from the trunk of my car on the floor? No, I don't buy it. That's not accessible to me. How about like an old towel from the trunk of my car on the floor? Target on the floor. Yeah, exactly. Massimo on the floor. What's the one Target brand that they do for towels? Anyway, that brand.
Starting point is 00:05:54 On the floor. The show opened with a Kendrick Lamar performance that was really dope. There was a part where... So at one point the screen flashes, this is a satire by Kendrick Lamar, which was weird because it was like an ultra-serious performance. But super producer Nick Stump pointed out that immediately after that, The Edge and Bono like strode out on the stage, which I don't know. Like being the most self-serious people in the world, it was just funny to imagine that he was just being like, this is the satire. These guys coming out and thinking that with their rock and roll music, they can solve everything that he's rapping about. But they used to be a band with a message.
Starting point is 00:06:35 Right. They did. And now Bono travels. They still have a message. We just don't want to hear it. Right. I guess. But I mean, like, you know, back in the day when U2 first came out, like, they were good with their protest music.
Starting point is 00:06:45 And we were kind of talking about how they sort of lost touch, I guess, over the years, especially when Bono forgot how to count in Spanish also. What did he say? In one of the songs, he's like, uno, dos, tres, catorce. Yeah, that's right. Fourteen? Fourteen. One, two, three, fourteen. Bro, you missed 11 fucking numbers in between.
Starting point is 00:07:03 He was going zero to a hundred. I just remember when Colin Farrell, I think, was on SNL one year pretending to be it. And he just leaned into that. So he's like, Catarse. It was like the best fucking sketch. But for Spanish speakers out there, we're like, something is wrong here. And they're proud. Look, who knows?
Starting point is 00:07:20 There might be a hidden message in there that I totally missed. But based off what I'm hearing, not. So Bruno Mars basically swept. He had the song of the year, the record of the year, which are two separate things. Like record, I guess, is like more for production and stuff. Song is like songwriting. He won both of those. He won album of the year.
Starting point is 00:07:43 I don't know anybody who was like, that was a great album, the Bruno Mars album. But he defeated Kendrick. We've talked before. The Grammys never get anything right. And, in fact, just like all you have to do is look back at some of their recent work. They've continuously, like last year, they gave it to Adele over Beyonce. They love just giving the award to middle-of-the-road pop artist over Beyonce and Kendrick. Oh, you say that over Adele?
Starting point is 00:08:13 You say middle-of-the-road pop artist? I'm sorry. No, I love Adele. You're from the Delhive. Seems like a lot of fun. She's very smart, and I cry every time I hear Great voice Her music Great voice
Starting point is 00:08:27 But you know Terrible choice in football teams Right I don't know what that means She's sports taught I mean that's a whole other issue Okay But the album of the year though
Starting point is 00:08:35 How the I don't know I look at that Album of the year Yeah Damn is like Gonna go down As a great Damn or Awaken My Love
Starting point is 00:08:42 That fucking Childish Gambino album Was fucking insane to me And so was Damn I don't Man I don't know to go down as a great damn or awaken my love that fucking childish gambino album was a fucking insane to me and so is damn i don't man i don't know that this is the thing i think we're saying too before the show are we even surprised anymore like i don't even know if it's worth getting like upset because the grammys haven't been shit for a long time steely dan won for album of the year over radio heads kid a and the marshall mathers. Steely Dan, like, this was them coming back together after, like, 15 years and just being, like, old white dudes, you know, who, like, were getting back together one last time in 1988,
Starting point is 00:09:17 the year of, like, Metallica and Guns N' Roses. Jethro Tull, the flute, like, rock band won band one for like metal album of the year uh it's just like they are amazing at getting things extremely aggressively wrong well you just have to look at the committee right you know when when everybody's holding it down for like the aarp or like you know when everyone's voting looks like they were at the byron nelson this year right like you know, when everyone's voting looks like they were at the Byron Nelson this year. Right. Like, you know, you're not, they're not going to understand albums like Awaken My Love and like Beck. Beyonce lost to Beck last year. Yes, right.
Starting point is 00:09:52 So. Two years ago, but yeah. Or two years ago, two years ago. You're right. What do we do? You know, I think we just got to stop. I mean, SZA fucking didn't win new artist of the year. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:01 Jay-Z got shut out. Which I understood that. Jay-Z getting shut out. Jay-Z. Why? He cheated on Beyonce. You don't get no awards for cheating on beyonce i don't care how good this album that whole album should have been contrition if the album was just him crying for 12 tracks maybe i'm sorry yeah he was still trying to seem cool and shit i'm like nah fam you cheated on beyonce no awards it could also be because he also just doesn't fuck with the grammys anymore anyway he you know he refused to perform on the grammy stage so yeah he has a very tortured relationship
Starting point is 00:10:30 with the grammy because he recognizes that they never give hip-hop like yeah in 1991 uh they gave album of the year i think to uh fresh prince and dj jazzy jeff instead of Public Enemy. Like they just traditionally will go with whatever the whitest version. Yeah, but I mean to give them credit though, this is like Will Smith and Jazzy Jeff did really help to mainstream hip-hop like in the early 90s. I think that's a contribution people overlook a lot. But they're like the politics of respectability kind of hip-hop. Like we don't curse and we're like – Sure, respectability kind of hip hop. Like, we don't curse. And we're like. Sure. And I think that's his thing.
Starting point is 00:11:06 But you can't actually take away the fact that back then, like, Will actually had abilities as a lyricist. Like, that storytelling rap style, he was actually pretty good. And Jazzy Jeff is actually a really good DJ. Like, I think we look back and we're like, man, y'all are corny. Yeah. I mean, I owned Will 2K. I ain't gonna lie. Yeah. I'm just saying that culturally, when you look back, there's a lot of people who are releasing the greatest albums of all time in their genres.
Starting point is 00:11:32 And they're giving it instead to. And also, when you look at the winners, 11 of the 84 winners last night were women. Only 11 of the 84 were women. Right. And then the head of the recording academy had some real boneheaded shit to say after the awards because they're talking about what do we do about women in the recording industry? He said I think it has, and this is a quote,
Starting point is 00:11:53 I think it has to begin with women who have the creativity in their hearts and their souls, who want to be musicians, who want to be engineers, who want to be producers, who want to be part of the industry on an executive level to step up because I think they would be welcome. so it's a matter of women not they don't want it that's why hard enough oh they're not trying to you know fucking navigate a fucking like misogynistic system of the recording industry how do you step up when you're being stepped on yeah right like get up
Starting point is 00:12:22 from down there and i guess that just shows you how tone deaf the grammys are in general like oh for sure that's the guy running point and he's like you know i think women i guess they don't want it i don't even see them around yeah they definitely have a so i mean i think they tried to dodge a bullet by shutting edge here and out of some of the key categories because they knew that he would have won basically if they had just given him as an option to the recording academy but you know they still have a problem and they probably need to replace that dude with like do what the oscars just did where they uh realized that oh shit all of our awards are going to things that 80 year old white men like and nothing else. We wanted to just kind of talk briefly about president Trump's interview with
Starting point is 00:13:11 Piers Morgan because it is wildly entertaining just because you can kind of look at both sides and laugh. They're just both Piers Morgan. Crazy fucking trash. Okay. That was our coverage. That's it. Go do one.
Starting point is 00:13:28 So some of the best moments, they talked about gun control. Pierce Morgan. This was the closest Pierce Morgan came to holding his feet to the fire. He was like, why has nothing been done to stop somebody from doing what happened in Las Vegas again? And Trump was like, we do have gun control laws, but this is a sick person. And Piers Morgan's like, yeah, but he was able to legally buy 55 guns. And Trump was like, yeah, but the point is he would have had 55 bombs. He would have had 55 of something else if it weren't for if there was gun control.
Starting point is 00:14:02 Good thing we got that bomb control. Right. I mean, this is actually a mainstream gun rights argument that, well, bad people are bad people and nothing's going to stop them. But as I've talked about on this podcast before and just everywhere, anywhere that people will let me speak out loud, I love talking about the British coal gas study, which found that when you take away the easy way for people to kill themselves, in this case the people sticking their head in the oven,
Starting point is 00:14:36 which used to be like the most popular way for people to kill themselves in England, they went to nonlethal gas just because it was more efficient, not because they were trying to save anybody's lives. Once the gas could no longer kill you, the suicide rate dropped by like a third by however many suicides coal gas had made up before. So the idea is that, you know, because that people make really rash decisions and it's all about accessibility. And, you know, there's a reason that, you know, there aren't tons of mass bombings in America. There are lots of mass shootings. It's hard to build a bomb. And also, I mean, there are legal protections to keep you from, you know,
Starting point is 00:15:19 if they see that you've gone to the grocery store and bought all the ingredients for a bomb, you know, that will draw their attention. You're not supposed to be able to do that. You've gone to the grocery store and bought all the ingredients for a bomb. That will draw their attention. You're not supposed to be able to do that. The thing that bombs don't have is a BRA as super producer. It would actually be NBA. The National Bombs Association. Right. I'm just so sick of this argument.
Starting point is 00:15:42 But goddamn, I have to admire the strength of the NRA. That is some real power when just thousands of people can be shot all the time in America and no one can do anything about you because you have everybody in your pocket. The NRA is God. Right. Yeah, they have a lot of friends. Some might be Russian, too. There's that investigation happening, too, because they're like, y'all spent a lot of money that last cycle. Where is it coming from?
Starting point is 00:16:05 Wait, what is it? There was a story that came out last week that was talking about how there's a really close tie to the NRA and like certain Russian people. And there's one guy who has like a record of like laundering money for the Russians, had a relationship with the NRA. And they're trying to say like the amount that they spent the last election cycle was like much higher than they've ever spent before. Oh, the NRA? Yeah. And they're looking into kind of like some of the accounting to see what's going on. See if maybe they got some of that money from –
Starting point is 00:16:31 Yeah, we'll see. I mean that was a story. We'll probably look into that later. Sure. It's just way too easy to kill people with guns. I think that if you're a fucked up person and you want to kill a bunch of people, like you should at least have to work for it. Right.
Starting point is 00:16:41 Like you should have to stab everybody. Be on foot. Right. It's funny. That, you should have to stab everybody. Right. Be on foot. Right. It's funny. That's like, man, that old Chris Rock bit. He's like, look, if you made a bullet cost $5,000, you would have to fucking think. You were like, I would shoot you. But I got to wait for my next paycheck.
Starting point is 00:16:57 Are you worth it? Yeah. Are you worth it? So. Yeah. But that whole interview was filled with fascinating things. One of the more popular items from that was Piers Morgan. He was talking to Trump about how much he respects women and they were so deep into how much Trump respects women that Piers had to just ask the question we've all been wondering.
Starting point is 00:17:20 President Trump, do you identify as a feminist? Are you in as a feminist? Are you, in fact, a feminist? And the president said, no, I wouldn't say I'm for women. I'm for men. I'm for everyone. I think people have to go out. They have to go out and really do it. And they have to win. And women are doing great. And I'm happy about that. Oh, so he's all about equality for everybody?
Starting point is 00:17:57 Right. Do you guys remember a little song from Beyonce called Flawless? Mm-hmm. Yes. Let me just play a section. I don't know if you remember. call flawless yes let me just play a section you know i don't know if you remember feminist a person who believes in the social political and economic equality of the sexes so if you believe in the equality if you're for everybody that would make you a feminist too if you're truly about
Starting point is 00:18:16 equality for everyone right look i appreciate trump not lying we know his ass ain't no damn feminist he's out here talking about grabbing bitches by the pussy like don't even lie i appreciate that that trump didn't lie this moment he was like y'all know i'm not a feminist i'm assaulting women what do you mean but what he's saying is that he has this like weird fox news definition of feminism you know what i mean like because what he's saying is like well i don't know it's like i'm for women i'm for men i'm for everyone i don't think he understands what sort of generally he's he's means feminazis or whatever people try and attack like feminist thought is. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:18:49 exactly. Of, of being like, that's what he believes feminism. And that's why he's like, Oh, well that's, that's not me.
Starting point is 00:18:54 Right. And not that he even believes in equality for everyone, but you even, he even betrays himself in like how he even follows that answer up. And, and I'm not surprised. I don't even know why I'm getting so fired up because there was bigger issues with that interview I
Starting point is 00:19:08 had than that. Well, why don't you talk about what your biggest issue was? Okay, let me tell you guys something. So, I'm a huge fan of Arsenal Football Club in North London. You know, there's only one team in London, as we all know, and people can tweet me all they want. But let's be real. Pierce Morgan is the worst example of an Arsenal supporter. He is a
Starting point is 00:19:24 lifelong supporter okay he gave this dude a jersey with his name on it with a four or five on the back also baron trump has been seen wearing an arsenal kit that's a whole other thing you know that's he's a child he's figuring it out but he basically was like it was just crazy they had this exchange where he was like are you an arsenal fan and trump's like no not particularly no and then he's like pierce morgan says don't kill the dream mr president i can't take this xenophobic psychopath pierce morgan he's already like a very problematic guy i just got triggered because he's bringing my club into it we have one of the most diverse uh supporters uh like the kinds of variety of supporters of the club it's great and we're not xenophobic we're all. And to bring this man in the conversation is very upsetting. And that's my rant. I have to go.
Starting point is 00:20:09 There was a great moment where he asked him about something less important than what you're talking about, Miles, obviously, climate change. I don't believe that. He said, do you believe in climate change? Do you believe it exists? And Trump said, there's a cooling, there is a heating. And I mean, look, it used to not be climate change. It used to be global warming, which I guess he's just talking about the name change, the rebranding. He says that wasn't working too well because it was getting too cold all over the place. The ice caps were going to melt. They were going to be gone by now. And now they're setting records.
Starting point is 00:20:46 So, okay, they're at a record level. What? There were so many things happening, Piers. I tell you what I believe in. I believe in clean air. I believe in crystal clear, beautiful water. I believe in just having good cleanliness. Oh, yeah, that's why you gutted the EPA?
Starting point is 00:21:01 It's just why he's a fucking germphobe. That's also why I will not shake your hand, Piers. He also had a paper cover over his water glass the whole time because he doesn't like dirt. Trump should swim open mouth in the Hudson River. That should be his punishment. Right. Rather than jail, I would love to see him swim. He believes in cleanliness, but he's at McDonald's all the time.
Starting point is 00:21:23 I want him to beer bong 40 ounces of Hudson River water. But if Trump has shown us nothing, it's that we should all strive for more in life. Like, I used to think that qualifications were a necessity. And now I know they're a mere obstacle in front of me. Like, so what? I don't know what I'm doing. That doesn't mean I can't still do it. Like, this response is the stupidest shit I ever fucking heard in my life.
Starting point is 00:21:47 So, I mean. The grass. I like clean grass. I like blue skies. Arctic Sea Ice has set repeated lows, but notice he didn't say that they were setting records in either direction. He just said. Records.
Starting point is 00:22:00 The ice is setting records. So. Yeah. Okay. They're at a record level. Yeah, the worst ever. Right. Anyway, cool.
Starting point is 00:22:09 There's also apparently some records in terms of how far spread the ice is. And it's at records in terms of being spread the furthest. But that's because of increased winds from global warming and because the ice is breaking apart and melting. So, yeah, very interesting interview uh the hard-hitting interview we've all been waiting for uh all right we're gonna take a quick break we'll be right back Daphne Caruana Galizia was a Maltese investigative journalist who on October 16, 2017, was murdered. There are crooks everywhere you look now. The situation is desperate. My name is Manuel Delia. I am one of the hosts of Crooks Everywhere, a podcast that unhearts the plot to murder a one-woman Wikileaks.
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Starting point is 00:26:18 show on Will Ferrell's Big Money Players Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. Let's talk about the memo because there's, you know, you might have seen released the memo trending. This has become a big right wing cause celeb. So Devin Nunez, who this is the guy who recused himself from the intelligence committee investigation right and he did that because uh at the time he was basically
Starting point is 00:26:55 sharing information from the intelligence committee like stuff that was not supposed to be shared and that was supposed to be confidential he got out of a car in the middle of D.C., was just like, I got to go and like told the person to stop the car, got out of one car, got into another car like he was in a fucking spy movie and went immediately to the White House to just brief people on shit that he knew from the Senate Intelligence Committee. So it was like this guy's clearly compromised. Well, and also like he used information he got from the white house to present to the white house right like just to create a story right look what i've got and it's like motherfucker that came from the white house like this is all transparent theatrics right so somehow this guy who's supposed to have recused himself is now he put together this memo based on, you know, his opinion of the investigation
Starting point is 00:27:46 claiming that, you know, that Trump is being treated unfairly, right? Well, yeah, it's trying to essentially lay out the fact that there's corruption in the FBI, that they're overstepping their power, that Rod Rosenstein is like, you know, acting out of line by because of this, that and the other to deal with Carter Page, etc. So really, I mean, if you boil it down, what this memo is doing is essentially trying to create a pretext to fire Rod Rosenstein because if they can create the narrative that like, oh, God, it's like Rod Rosenstein. He's fucking up. Like, yeah, it would make sense for Trump to fire him.
Starting point is 00:28:19 That is the first domino that needs to fall so he can put someone in his place to fire Robert Mueller because Robert Mueller reports directly to Rod Rosenstein. So that's what stinks like shit about this whole thing is that if that happens, that's really the first Saturday Night Massacre domino to go down because that's – I would be blown away if he finds a reason to fire Rod Rosenstein and whoever replaces him doesn't fire Robert Mueller. Can I ask you guys a bigger question? Bigger picture question? Yeah. So much gets compared back to, like, Watergate, right? Right. But in that time in our country, I wasn't there, but everything that I've learned from it,
Starting point is 00:29:00 it's that it got to a point where no matter what aisle you were on or what you voted for, whether you voted for Nixon or you didn't, it got to a point where you were like, he's got to go. Yeah. This is like, like the country was like, this isn't okay. Right. So to me, that's the big difference because all of this stuff, a Saturday night massacre where everybody who should be doing the right thing gets fired and everything gets pulled out. Like, will it even matter if so much of this country doesn't care?
Starting point is 00:29:22 Right. Yeah. Like that there just isn't outrage. Like I say, people are always like, well, how do things change? But Vietnam changed, really. Like we really started, the Pentagon Papers obviously really helped. But what that really made people do is your World War II veteran and your Korean War veterans were like, well, wait a sec, I'm against this too.
Starting point is 00:29:38 And it wasn't just like long-haired kids anymore like yelling this. It was people who watched their kids come home and either not come home at all or come home and be like we're over there for no reason and then that reached a greater populace where people are like this war is bad and then once senators and congressmen and women started feeling like oh we're not going to be re-elected they thought we really do need to get out of this war we need to really this president needs to be changed for what has happened to me that's the difference like what's going to happen in this country when you do have a quote-unquote smoking gun but nobody cares that it went off i don't know that nobody cares i know but i mean like enough to feel like it's not acceptable we've learned so much in this presidency that everything we thought were rules for the way
Starting point is 00:30:16 somebody had to behave but really just implied suggestions and somebody could just stop doing them and we found out where we are right now people are like yeah i don't care that clearly the tipping point will be if robert muller is fired that's when you really will that's when people need to show the fuck up i actually don't know if it will be because so that's the thing like i've been it's nuanced talking about this podcast to me that's slow burn uh that where it takes you back to what watergate was like at the time. And, yeah, the Saturday Night Massacre, like, tipped everybody to be like, oh, okay, so he's clearly the bad guy. But they didn't have Fox News. That's the thing that I keep coming back to is there wasn't a propaganda wing
Starting point is 00:30:56 that was consistently putting out, you know. Just lies. Just, yeah, essentially lies and a op-ed of what the president wants people to believe. And so I genuinely don't know if there is a smoking gun, if people will give a shit enough to – Yeah, I mean that's what I'm afraid of. That's what I'm really – Well, I think that's why people need to talk about that enough to realize that if that happens, we're steps away from full on, you know, being like under the rule of some despotic government.
Starting point is 00:31:28 Right. But there were points early in the Watergate investigation. And, you know, I thought Watergate, like there was a break in, like Woodward and Bernstein started like nailing the story and like it was just a big wave and it overtook the country. There were a lot of different points at which people like didn't give enough of a shit and then there was this big senate committee where you know different people were interviewed and it was like the oj trial of its time and everybody was like watching it and that started tipping people's opinion and that crescendo of like woodward and bernstein as they were building
Starting point is 00:32:01 and people weren't paying attention and then started to over time. Like you just mentioned, any crescendo like that as it builds now, what you didn't have then was this behemoth of this media that reached millions and millions of people kicking the chair out from under it before it could really get people's attention and build. That's what I'm afraid of. Well, that's the thing with this memo is like, can we look at this memo as in and of itself being a form of obstruction? Because it's trying to discredit the very
Starting point is 00:32:29 intelligence community that is trying to look out for national security and completely change the conversation. And it's either directly or... It's a malicious distraction at best. Right. And it's straight up obstruction at worst. Right. Because it's completely derailing the conversation and the
Starting point is 00:32:45 point of doing it putting it together and then putting it out is either directed by or implied from the white house to do this absolutely so that's even devin nunes is his little right he carries the water for him right so i mean and there were people on the republican side up until the end who were still supporting nixon up until like the really very you don't hear about that much like today's i think the last episode of slow burn and they're uh talking about these uh town halls that republican senators were having or democratic senators were having in the south where they would meet with these southern people and southern people were like we don't give a shit about Watergate. Like just let Nixon do his job.
Starting point is 00:33:25 And it was like 50-50 split. And then the transcripts of all the tapes Nixon had been keeping of his just like meetings in his office broke. And that was like when everyone was like, oh, shit. Well, he had like the smoking gun in Watergate was like the smoking is of guns. It was like he was caught holding it and then like recording himself committing the murder. Like it was just you really couldn't have found a more guilty motherfucker than Nixon. That's why. But that's why people just need to look at it like this.
Starting point is 00:34:00 Everything that the GOP has been doing from whether it's the house intelligence committee to people like chuck grassley to the president himself they're clearly acting in this way because they have shit to hide right there's no other way to look at that and if you can accept that and you can accept the fact that through the overwhelming amount of congressmen uh that have voted for the sanctions that we clearly do acknowledge that russia did interfere with our right that's what i've said to people in my family. And they're not fervent Trump supporters, but I've said, if you believe everything that they tell you, you just believe they didn't do anything wrong, they aren't bad people,
Starting point is 00:34:35 da-da-da-da-da-da, or like, okay, whatever. But at some point, when do you start saying, but why do they keep lying about whether or not they met with somebody? Like, why does every person, because you end up realizing they did lie about it oh i forgot i didn't recall and now i recall this like it whether you fall on the side of like i don't think they had bad intentions or i think they're good people forget that for a second just how many times will it happen before you go why do they keep lying about it if they didn't do anything wrong and i don't think they did anything wrong like i do personally but if that's attitude, I just like how much does that need to happen before you're like, yeah, that does. Why would you keep on?
Starting point is 00:35:08 We're just in a very interesting time right now. So guys, let's just stay tuned. And then there's also this article that came out in The Atlantic that we all read. And it's dark, man. It is dark. It's about paul manafort and uh it's called american hustler uh which is definitely a complimentary like a way of making his struggle sound cool uh but it opens with him like crying and threatening to kill himself to his daughters and his daughters being
Starting point is 00:35:41 like oh brother this shit again uh he's being a real tightwad with the cash right yeah like he's like he's gonna make me serve hot dogs at my wedding kickoff party right it does feel like when the inevitable biopic comes out of this the the role of the daughters is gonna be a plum one that's gonna be the one by oscar bait yeah um but yeah he's if he was a tortured dude i mean like this article is wild because it shows you it's like Wolf of Wall Street almost. Right. But for lobbying. Yeah. Yeah. And like created lobbying, as we know, as we know, like the super corrupt power broker. Right. Yeah. He brought everything like under the same roof. Right. That was his innovation. Yeah. And like, how did that change it used to be sort of just lame people offering to like you know help a politician get a job but they were saying that you know the lobbying industry just in general was struggling to squeak by before manafort and then he came in and at in the late 70s and early 80s and just now it's like they're the hot shit in dc yeah yeah with roger stone of course right
Starting point is 00:36:47 his side which is the other crazy thing too is as much as back tad himself yeah as much as you read this article and you hear manafort you also see roger stone come up a bunch you're like god damn yeah this is just the same fucking dudes just stay in the picture i mean but i guess the one thing is look it's a long read the atlantic however did convert it into like an audiobook so you can listen to it we'll put that in the footnotes because honestly when you listen to this it's very hard to think that anything that happened with paul manafort and the russians and the trump campaign was anything but egregious fuckery on this part there's no like he can't feign ignorance here so when he starts getting involved in the trump campaign his uh friends and advisors are like dude you cannot do this because he's in
Starting point is 00:37:32 a lot of financial trouble right he owes dictators tons of money he is just you know he stole money from a fucking oligarch right a russian savage dude he's like savage shit he's like the friend in rounders or like some other action movie where they're like oh man i'm good for it and like the guys to come in and save their ass like that's paul manafort at the beginning of this and then trump's like yeah you can run my campaign right because the whole thing he was so broke he knew the only way he was going to kind of start getting his money back is if he could work with trump and best case scenario trump Trump becomes president. And that helps elevate his star because everything went wrong once Yanukovych was ousted in Ukraine.
Starting point is 00:38:12 Or even just like placing. I just feel like the profile, you just go all in on the right wing machine, right? And you just assume like being next to trump is good enough to like at least get me out of this right well he's like but he was the kind of dude who would just be like uh who was it uh marcos in the philippines like gave him a briefcase like 100 million or 10 million dollars and he's like hey can you give this to reagan right he's like yeah i'll give it to reagan and just straight up walked off with the cash yeah and didn't give him shit so like his whole thing was just being like yo i can get you here and that was like his money making scheme
Starting point is 00:38:48 and so now that was his whole idea with trump was like okay i owe this russian oligarch like 20 million dollars that i stole from him and that was his whole thing was like he didn't tell trump that no no no thing this is his internal monologue as he's like yeah you know i'm i'm doing great and i can like get you in the right doors and you, you know, he's a wheeler dealer. He had a big name. We talked before about how when they were talking about his money laundering, they said that he like laundered money through, I think it was like $300,000 worth of suits or something. And that's like not that far fetched because that's like that was his thing was like getting fancy suits. Money laundering really is an art yeah like it really i do not have the creativity
Starting point is 00:39:29 to come up with enough ways to move my although my bitcoin poker scheme is right there you go right i mean i think it's a long article it has everything from like crazy arms deals that go south to uh him trying to like launder reputations for dictators and and murderous fucking it's wild just look at the whole thing and when you get to the point of when he meets trump he's like look he's broke as fuck but he realizes trump is also cheap so if he goes like hey i'll work for you with for free trump is going to be like oh this dude's rich he doesn't need money i'm gonna bring him on team trump yeah and that's how he gets in and the way he even gets there he calls tom barrack and he's like, I need to get to Donald Trump.
Starting point is 00:40:09 And that's how I got there. So it gives you another dimension where you thought Paul Manafort was just like some doofy dude. And you're like, oh, homie was straight evil. Well, it's also just like double grifters or triple grifter. Like I grifters grifting other grifters. Yeah. It's like, right. Grifter's going to grifter. Right. I grifter is grifting other grifters. Yeah. It's like. Grifter is going to grift.
Starting point is 00:40:26 Are you on a. They're on a pyramid scheme of who is like they're just passing around the same. Right. Case full of money at this point. Right. They have to be. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:36 It's a. It was a dream team of sort of incompetent crookedness. I mean, they all had to go in. Every single person in the trump administration went in with the plan of let's shoot the moon like let's do everything everyone is going to fail so hard that we're going to win right and they did it which is again as a as a gambler admirable as hell right i love it uh super producer nick stump was just saying it's funny to think about the campaign from the russian perspective because like they already have carter page and like all
Starting point is 00:41:10 these you know people that they have my influence with mike flynn uh you know real in deep with the trump campaign and then trump's like and guess who our campaign manager is yeah all fucking man the man who made vict Viktor Yanukovych. Right. Do you think there are like two different teams at the FSB just playing like Fantasy Chaos League against each other? Right. And they're just like, I don't know, all my chips. Because it's got to be fun for them at this point.
Starting point is 00:41:36 He must have blew up that grid, though, and enter new player Manafort. They're like, oh, shit, we're in Manafort. Yeah, someone had a 1 thousand and one bet on that that came in with Manifort right oh so dope we wanted to talk about this New York Times story that uh just came out I believe yesterday uh where they did a really in-depth study into whether the Fast and the Furious movies cause people to drive faster, essentially. That sounds like a wild bet that two journalists make. They're like smoking weed like, you think people drive faster after seeing the movie?
Starting point is 00:42:13 No, yeah, no. Let's go to the – pull some receipts. They need to have a section of the paper that is just that. Just like stoner drunk conversations like settling them. Turned into actual journalistic investigations. Because that's something that I know to be true about myself. But like I definitely didn't know that you could statistically prove it. But like I definitely drive faster after seeing Fast and the Furious movies.
Starting point is 00:42:35 Right. So they did an exhaustive search or like went through many speeding tickets, right? Right. They just looked at a single county, I believe, and just across time and did a really detailed statistical analysis of how much speeding tickets rose and what the speed people were clocked at was when they got speeding tickets. And there was a significant, like a 20% rise in the months after FS and the Furious movie came out.
Starting point is 00:43:03 And people were more likely to get caught speeding near movie theaters also. Awesome. And then they compared it with like hunger games release weekend. Right. No fluctuation. Yeah. Hunger games had no fluctuation. So yeah,
Starting point is 00:43:16 I don't know. This is something that I've always thought was underrated. And I think I might think that because I am more affected by popular culture than other people. But just how influenced we are by popular culture, like that seems to be a huge – You mean by the Daily Zeitgeist? Yeah, by the Daily Zeitgeist. I just thought it's underrated how we change minds.
Starting point is 00:43:37 Every day. Every day. And are creating new worlds. We change hearts, too. No, but like growing up, I was – One and the same. new world we change hearts too no but like growing up i was one in the same always i would like find myself like talking like a movie character or something just because i don't know i was like yeah take it in when i was watching the sopranos a lot right i had this weird new york accent for
Starting point is 00:44:00 like a couple months oh my god the week i got the mr show dvd set was by far my most insufferable there's no worse person than andrew the week after he watched all of mr show um yeah and i mean there's other examples like uh the whole thing with family being a big value with mafia people uh that was mostly started by the Godfather. And they incorporated that afterwards. But it was mostly prior to that. It was just like crime organizations like any other gang. It was just like the 40 Italians on your block.
Starting point is 00:44:36 Exactly. But not family dinners and all that. Right, right. Yeah. And the way they dressed was influenced by Brando in another movie. So it's – I don't know. I think that's an underrated thing. Do you guys ever – do you feel like you've made any big life decisions based on what you're watching? I really used to only exclusively smoke blunts because of Wu-Tang Clan and seeing Method Man and Red Man. And I'm like, oh, they're always, okay, rolling up a backwood. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:45:16 Hip-hop definitely changed, altered a lot of my consumption habits from drugs and alcohol 100%. Yeah. By design, I hope. That's why they make the music. Right. Going back to the video game thing, actually, now that we're talking about it, the – look, this is going to age me a little bit. But when my roommates were playing – When ColecoVision came out. When my roommates were playing a lot of Grand Theft Auto 3, it really desensitized me, not in the way that you would think to violence.
Starting point is 00:45:38 It really desensitized me to how allowed you are to just walk into traffic. Right. You just thought you could just cross the just like i would just kind of do it and it's kind of stare down cars being like the fuck you want and this is in new york i'll pull out a rocket launcher yeah a little more acceptable but it made you feel like you were invincible to cars or made me sorry made me feel like i was invincible to cars it gave me the opposite effect of where i would be driving i I'm like, what if I just ran these people over? Like I'm in a GTA. Yeah. That's the New York Times next study that they need to do is whether in the aftermath of Grand Theft Auto game releases if pedestrians getting hit rises.
Starting point is 00:46:19 I bet it does. I don't know. But there was a study that said violent video games don't necessarily affect people's behavior towards violence, right? There have been a thousand studies saying both. Yeah. Oh, boy. I think the thing is it's more subtle than that, right? It's less like, oh, you think you can just beat people up.
Starting point is 00:46:36 But I do think there's something akin to you become less sensitized to how dangerous a car is. You become less sensitized to how dangerous a car is. Or maybe you could do research into disciplinary issues in a school on either side of a video game release. Because you might walk in your class and just talk spicy to your teacher or rough a kid up. I'm high off this Vice City right now. Right. Yeah. I just like the idea of, first of all, I'm just using this as a, this is poor man's copyright.
Starting point is 00:47:07 I just really want to do someone to do a purge movie. That's just about tax fraud. But you know, all crime is legal. Doesn't have to be violent crime. Yeah. Right. So just like tax amnesty or whatever. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:47:19 Like, like if you, if you file your fraudulent taxes on Purge Day, what happens? Right. It's a great idea. I made nothing this year. I just think there's room for a comedy in that universe. That's all. But second of all, I'm like – see, it's like – or with the Hunger Games example, it's not like, oh, people are out shooting arrows because the Hunger Games thing is out. But do people have a different relationship to authority or whatever? How does does that it's the power of the media y'all i wish someone
Starting point is 00:47:50 had studied this yeah oh well oh yeah i wonder if bow hunting increases after hunger games yeah or winter's bone well my friends my friend's kid is is uh all about kung fu because of ninjago oh interesting yeah um bringing it full circle yeah and i i do feel like movies despite the fact that they're supposedly made by liberals in uh you know hollyweird in urban places they like the hunger games uh a writer at cracked david wong talked about how uh like the values in our movies are all pro-rural people, people out in the sticks and anti-people in cities. For instance, in The Hunger Games, the capital, everyone's an elaborately dressed weirdo. Or in Star Wars, the Empire is the city, like luke the hero is out in the rural areas all right we're gonna take a break
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Starting point is 00:52:57 sang that uh but people are a big fan yeah justin timberlake is the halftime performer. People are taking bets on who will appear with him because it doesn't feel like he's the type of – like Lady Gaga was the first performer in a long time to not just have a bunch of guests appear with her last year. They've got T.I. at 3 to 1. Why T.I.? Timberland at 5 to 1. Timberland, please. Madonna, 9 to 1. Jimmy Fallon, which is pretty funny, 10 to 1. Bob Dylan, weird. Jessica Biel, he just brings his wife out.
Starting point is 00:53:35 And my beautiful wife! Give it up for her, y'all. Remember her from 7 to 1. A non-musician. Andy Samberg, 50 to 1. They'll do a dick in the box thing. And then this one, Janet Jacksonberg 50 to 1 for they'll do a dick in the box thing and then this one janet jackson 200 to 1 like i would put all my money on that one no of course they're gonna bring janet i i want him to yes and then she has because i think he needs to reconcile thank you uh but i just given my
Starting point is 00:53:59 observations i think justin wants to move on from, and I don't think he wants to – Well, he owes her. He does. Look, you're talking to – I've never considered myself a stan for anyone. Well, before you say anything, she's wearing a Rhythm Nation hat. But I am a JT stan. Oh, I thought you were going to say Janet Jackson fan. No, I love Janet too.
Starting point is 00:54:23 Oh, so you're a JT. Oh, whoa. But I'm a huge JT fan, but I'm disappointed in the way he handled that, of course. I've also met him. So like you kind of know. You know his heart. I know his heart. I've met him once. And I think he's – I love him.
Starting point is 00:54:41 I love the new music. I'm really excited about the new album. I think it's classic Justin. If you're not into new music i'm really excited about the new album i think it's it's classic justin if you're not into his music then don't listen to it i don't care i will not um but i do like what he's doing on this new album interesting um i've seen him in concert several times were you on the stripped justified tour uh the what stripped justified when he toured with christina aguilera no not that not that long ago. Justified was... See, I like Justified as an album.
Starting point is 00:55:07 That's one I listen to a lot. And then I listen to other stuff. Yeah, I mean, he's had some missteps. But I think that my thing is, I think Justin became famous as a child and he's lived in a very sheltered, protected world for the majority of his life. So I just don't think
Starting point is 00:55:23 he fully... He's out of touch he's a little at how could you not yeah for sure he and he doesn't i but his newest song with chris stapleson which i really enjoy is called say something which goes back to my earlier thing about silence and the lyric is uh sometimes it's better to say nothing at all like the best way to say something is to say nothing at all and i i love way to say something is to say nothing at all. And I love that message, but I'm also like, Justin, but you should say something about Janet.
Starting point is 00:55:50 That's kind of, but also look, you know, we demand so much from our celebrities to the point where it's almost like you're damned. If you do, you're damned. If you don't,
Starting point is 00:56:00 um, I wish he took more responsibility for some stuff, but like, well, I think this is the way he can make it right with Janet, okay? He should. He should bring her out. And then at the end of the song, she pulls his dick out. Hell yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:13 In front of everybody. Yeah. She rips off a little piece of fabric and he's just – his dick is right there. And he has like a weird dick ring on. Like she has that weird dick ring on. She has like a big sun dick ring. Yeah, he can have some dick jewelry yeah but now that's just let's just even it up if you're gonna put her on blast for having
Starting point is 00:56:29 her nipples out there i guess that's the thing is but who knows they might be like and that was the greatest super bowl show ever the fact that that was even scandalous still to this day right is unbelievable to me like there's people i guess a group of parents like wrote a letter to JT just begging him not to do anything provocative. You know, it's like if you want something provocative, watch the men getting concussions over and over again on the field. We treat our black athletes like that's damaging more your children. Yeah. They see a nipple with a star sticker on it. Like, like, I've never seen a tit before. Didn't they used to eat on your tit? Like, I mean, yeah, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:57:14 Maybe they didn't. And that's the problem. Yeah. Yeah. They don't. I don't want my children to know about the mystery. I mean, like, it's just all of it is so American. I'm not saying I agree with it, but I totally understand where – not understand where America is coming from, but like that is the easiest thing to predict ever, that they're going to be upset about that and not like –
Starting point is 00:57:36 Yeah. Britannical background, of course. Right. Absolutely. A black breast? Now – Look, if that was Jessica Biel's titty up there, it would not have been the same. Right.
Starting point is 00:57:47 And we all know that. And that was sort of the conversation that that whole controversy kicked off too. It was just sort of like, ooh, are we holding people to – like what's going on? He did it to her, but she's the one – But she got in trouble. Yeah. And then – so his response was not adequate. Like he wasn't like, yeah, that was my bad because I was the one doing it.
Starting point is 00:58:03 He just sort of distanced it. he let her take all the heat he didn't step in and go hey everybody like it was it was a mistake like i take full responsibility like he just didn't really stand up he wore the oscar uh yes and isn't he like sort of disliked in the black community for that story? And cultural appropriation claims of him. His music is definitely borrowed. His hair upset a lot of Japanese people because he had that ramen hair. It was very bad. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:38 He made a comment on Twitter a while back that was just sort of condescending and missing the point. He did a little bit of all lives matter. What did you think of that supplies video? So stupid. I believe it's the supply video. I got you. I got. Okay.
Starting point is 00:58:54 So listen, I know all the words already. What does he mean when he says fell up out of it? So I can climb back in. I'm a thoughtful lover or something. Yeah. He's talking about his dick. I love that.
Starting point is 00:59:04 The video is trying to be socially like woke but the song is about fucking yes and that but then my thing is like justin does songs about fucking and that's the majority of his music and that's what he's really good at and then you're trying to throw in some social awareness shit into the video made no sense but that also does remind me of like the golden age of music videos when the music video made no sense yeah right and you spent like two million on it like whatever like remember that time like when every video that came on the there's the mtv world premieres yeah it would be like what buster rhymes is seen in the rain like a
Starting point is 00:59:40 gargoyle on the side of a building man Man, that run of Guns N' Roses videos where they, yeah, they were like, we promise the third one will make sense of it all. And that was like, nothing made sense. Use your illusion. JT is getting corny, but I don't mind it. So his new album was like teased as being his return to his roots and like man of the woods. And then the music does sound very much like everything else i've heard from him yeah so it's kind of it has a more country twain you know what he i actually do think justin is a really talented musician like and he has a like he's always just
Starting point is 01:00:18 done his own thing like he'll do a song and then put a three minute coda on the end of it that's like a totally different song like he c – Coda? Are you a musician? I've got some music. All right. I play piano for my whole life. Seeing that bird's eye? Looking at that bird's eye? OK.
Starting point is 01:00:31 Yeah. He'll do things – he does things his way. He's like kind of – he doesn't mind stepping into just a slightly different world with his music. with his music but um i think these songs have like country melodies to them or country like rules to them that then he layers on his supplies definitely has that yeah like yeah you know i think it's more subtle i think people are just they expected because of the promo made it seem like it was going to be a country it's gonna be like his nebraska and uh you know i love the first the first video is him as a robot. And I was like, yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:09 Your Steve Jobs. It's like a Steve Jobs in there. This is hilarious. I guess to also think about this too. We're talking about Super Bowl moments. And the one thing that I just want to bring up, sorry to do a hard transition away from Justin, but I feel like we owe this to society,
Starting point is 01:01:24 is Left Shark, right? Yeah. Katy Perry's left shark. Yeah. He went on NPR. Yeah, NPR tracked him down. Explained himself. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:33 Now, when you first saw Left Shark, what did you think was going on? This was just a total fuck up. I thought a dude was fucking up. Yeah. I thought he was fucking up too. I thought it was like a naked gun situation where he had knocked the actual dancer out and gotten in the suit and snuck up and then was like, oh shit, I don't know this. I thought it was just crazy fun movements on a stage, but I didn't analyze it too hard.
Starting point is 01:01:54 I just thought it looked funny. Well, listen to this because we have it straight from the shark's mouth. What happened? All right, so take me to halftime. You're out there. This is the question that America wants to know. This is the million-dollar question. What happened?
Starting point is 01:02:06 What happened? So there's a set choreography. There's also what's called freestyle choreography, or, like, you get to move around or play your character as a dancer, right? This seems like a critical piece of information. You had some flexibility. Yeah, you have flexibility because you are your own character. Okay. I a seven foot blue shark costume there's no cool there's no cool in that so what's the other option well i'm gonna play a different character okay hang on this is a moment
Starting point is 01:02:36 here it's america they thought you were totally flubbing this up yeah totally what character were you going for here we go this is an underdog. It's an everyday person. I'm showing you you don't have to be perfect. You don't have to be perfect. It worked. So he was playing the thing I thought. Is he doing I meant to do that right now? Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 01:02:53 Yeah. He might be, but. He's like an everyday person who can't dance would be doing this. But it's when you watch, like, there was like clearly choreography to like, to the chorus of the song. Maybe he got the timing wrong on when you were supposed to go freestyle. Right, because he was kind of doing the choreography and doing it half wrong. So to me, that doesn't feel like that was quite the freestyle moment.
Starting point is 01:03:11 Right. But I don't know. Look, if he's trying to say this was a – But that was the ultimate effect of Left Shark. Yeah, exactly. So in the end, the result was more important than maybe the intention. He's a lucky man. If you've ever been to a flaming lips
Starting point is 01:03:25 concert oh god like where they bring out like every character i mean i think she probably got that idea from yeah from them it had a flaming but like he brings out you know flaming lips brings out like all these people in costumes and it's just chaos and there's like giant balls bouncing beach balls everywhere you know and that reminded me of that so to me, it didn't look as much of a fuck up as it did like, oh, she's trying to do that thing. Right. That Flaming Lips does, like a fun party and like some of it's off. But it was just so funny. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:54 It made everyone feel so good. I love Left Shark. Yeah. No, everyone does. That's why it's just funny that it also that it took this long to like for this person to come out and be like, let me tell you exactly what happened. The Super Bowl. Gosh, people take the NFL so seriously. Actually, thinking back, you asked what I thought at the time. I thought I was looking at the wrong shark because I thought we were talking stage left shark.
Starting point is 01:04:17 And I was like looking at the shark to her left. And I was like, they kind of seem in sync. And then I figured out what people were talking about. It was controversial, though, too. Yeah, the whole performance was like, they kind of seem in sync. And then I figured out what people were talking about. It was controversial, though, too. Yeah, the whole performance was controversial, right? Satan. Yeah. Satan abounds.
Starting point is 01:04:33 People take Halftime Show and all of this so seriously. It's like it's a sport that we made up. But this is imagery that is being dumped into brains around the world. When you start looking up like Katy Perry. And Satan was hidden in there. If you look up Katy Perry's satanic imagery Super Bowl, then there are articles like, was Lady Gaga's Super Bowl satanic? Was Beyonce's Super Bowl?
Starting point is 01:04:55 So it feels like every time there's a woman up there performing at the halftime show, it's satanic. And who knows? I'm sure they'll find a way to say Justin was being satanic as well. Look, if you are someone who is offended by pop music because you think it's part of the system of Satan because you are so hardcore Christian, then yes, it is satanic because you think that anything that challenges or distracts you from God and purity is satanic. So it's like you can find – I mean that's – LaCroix is satanic. The definition of Satan is like away from God.
Starting point is 01:05:29 So it's like – Well, unless you're Satanist and then you stand for indulgence where Christ was about abstaining, right? Right. Damn, that's deep. Abstaining. There's nothing in the Bible about abstaining. No, about sort of like of keeping things – Christ was into partying, man.
Starting point is 01:05:47 No, no, no. But it's about staying in line, whereas Satanism is about indulging yourself or indulging whatever your urges are. But it's not even an evil way because when you look at the tenets, it'll be like, if you do not respect a man, do not have them in your home. It's like, okay, so don't be fake with somebody and then invite them into your house. I'm like, okay, I'll fuck with you, Satan. Right. This is all part of Miles' sat okay, I'll fuck with you, Satan. Right. This is all part of Miles' satanic propaganda campaign. My new podcast called Satan.
Starting point is 01:06:09 I have to leave. Okay, great. Because you are filled with satanic imagery. That is definitely true. It's also important to note that there was a lot of satanic imagery in there. I guess what we define as satanic imagery uh might be loose definition but you know there are pyramids mirrors on the floor i don't know what else miles giant lions that's got to be something yeah well because like i mean first peter uh five verse eight uh says uh be
Starting point is 01:06:37 sober be vigilant uh because your adversary the devil walks about like a roaring lion uh seeking whom he may devour. So she pulled up on a fucking lion. So the MGM lion is satanic. Oh, yeah, absolutely. And if you align it. The Lion King with satanic. The Pink Floyd album, which does have a pyramid on it. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:06:58 Those are done by white men, so it's okay. The dollar bill has a satanic shit on it. Yeah, the dollar bill is full of trippy shit. And isn't that ironic? Because the dollar money is the devil. And is our God simultaneously. It's like, what is God really? These are questions that I would encourage you to discuss with your pastor.
Starting point is 01:07:17 Thank you so much. All right. That's going to do it for this week's weekly Zeitgeist. Please like and review the show if you like the show. It means the world to Miles. He needs your validation, folks. I hope you're having a great weekend, and I will talk to you Monday. Bye. Thank you. murder of one woman WikiLeaks. She exposed the culture of crime and corruption that were turning her beloved country
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