The Daily Zeitgeist - Who Got The Keys To The Veep? Tech Bubble About To Pop? 08.06.24
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you need help dunking that basketball on that hoop dude behind you you have that set up for
your for your kids dude just to fucking go full anthony edwards on them i bring it out every once
in a while yeah they learn a thing when they're yeah when they're sleeping i put at the top of
their bed wake them up with a fucking poster damn bro they're not going
this will be a closed casket what what i like still just waking up fan you got going on that's
the fan the type of fan that your your kids should be able to convince themselves can propel them
oh yeah yeah put them on a skateboard, put that behind them. But first,
put a series of thin objects
in to see just how powerful
the fan blade is.
Yeah.
As any true fan explorer.
Hold an umbrella next to it.
Oh, yeah.
I would just throw toothpicks.
I remember my grandma
would have them at her house.
I would just throw them in
just to watch them get
fucking whipped out
like at crazy speed.
Oh, my God.
Yeah.
Look, you're learning cause and effect
at a young age.
This is what we had instead of smartphones.
Yeah, exactly.
Throwing toothpicks in a big-ass blade thing.
Yeah.
Basically, any cell phone game.
It's like a Fruit Ninja.
Did you ever do the thing to see
how much you could handle,
like put your fingers in
to see if you could stop the fan blade?
Oh, yeah, yeah.
I've stopped fans with my tongue.
I've stopped them all. Yeah, for real.
Yeah, yeah.
And I rocked them all, baby.
I've seen a million open-faced fans and I've rocked them all.
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Hello, the internet, and welcome to season 350, episode two of Dead Daily's iGuyStay
production of iHeartRadio. This is a podcast where we take a deep dive into america's
shared consciousness and it is tuesday august 6th 2024 hell yeah man national night out day
i don't why is there a cop in the image for this actually no well hold on i take that back
night out day this is like they go full staff on like dui traps it promotes police community oh boy
cop again today a little night out you deserve it hey you know hey you know who else can pop and
lock officer fucking rivers over here why don't you show him a little locking bro yeah there he
goes egyptian lover yeah he's doing the most old school shit. It's also National Fresh Breath Day.
National Root Beer Float Day.
National Wiggle Your Toes Day.
Wiggle them.
Okay.
Wiggle them.
Yeah.
I'm at the point where my wife is officially like, you need a pedicure.
Ooh.
Why?
We need to take these out of your hands.
Wait, what is happening happening what is going on with
dry you know i mean my feet i'm not i'm acting like i have like fucking award-winning feet i
don't i have feet that have i think asbestos on the bottom because i'm walking out here this is
for the people to decide you gotta show gotta show feet on me and see what happens. It's beyond that, Andrew.
I can't. I mustn't.
I'll put many of us at risk if I
create a national scandal.
I mustn't.
Don't take off my stockings.
This is me trying to
create some demand.
I mustn't. I simply mustn't.
Who, me?
Oh, you caught me as I was darning my stockings in the night.
And I guess my feet were uncovered.
Yeah.
Wait, are they, it's just got like, do you got them dry pads and shit like underneath?
Dry pads.
Thick ass, like you put the lighter underneath?
Yeah.
Put the lighter underneath.
I used to do that shit as a kid.
Just to like kind of prove to myself, I was like, yeah, bro, this shit is thick.
I can chill it for like five seconds.
Create a nice little...
Okay.
Without anybody noticing.
Mamma mia.
Without feeling it.
Mamma mia.
Get the microplane out.
Any Parmigiano-Reggiano for you?
Get the microplane out because that's when I brainstorm.
When I foot-cell storm.
There you go. yeah foot cell storm uh anyways my name is jack o'brien aka robert brought a dead bear cub he
bought it for a dime his sister had another one she paid it for a bike he put the bike with the
dead bear cub he put in new york city put the bike with the dead bear cub he put in central park he
put the bike with the dead bear cub he put in new york city put the bike with the dead bear cub. He put in New York City.
He put the bike with the dead bear cub.
He called New Yorkers and write it up.
It said, New Yorker.
That is it.
That is courtesy of La Caroni on the Discord.
Great.
Great job, La Caroni.
What a time.
Great job, Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
What a time to be alive, you guys.
Jesus Christ.
It gets worse.
I love it.
He's like, it's probably going to be a bad story about me.
And then some from the New Yorker post a photo of him with the dead bear cub.
And you're like, these haters.
It's probably going to be a bad story.
You're holding a dead animal pretending.
Like, that's clearly been, like, it's bleeding from its injuries.
And you're like, ah, it's biting me. Oh, no. All right. Let's go to Pete. Let's go been like it's bleeding from its injuries and you're like ah
it's biting me oh no all right let's go to p let's go to lugers huh gotta go to keynes by the way
when you're up in central park let's just say at least the last time he would like last time there
was a horrible picture of him with a dead animal he was pretending to eat a dog yeah this time he had the bear
pretending to eat him which would be an improvement if his alibi was not i was going to cut it up for
meat and bear fur so that i could have like baby bear meat and yeah fur like no one's really
really kind of sussing that part out or it's like hold on so you just want to eat dead
bear cub meat yeah is this going to be a big enough story that like we don't even have to
explain what the fuck we're talking about or do we need to tell people i don't know i mean listen
we talked about it on monday's episode you can listen to it there look rfk threw away a dead
bear cub in central park he's had a dead bear cub in his car, first of all.
Threw it away in Central Park.
Big mystery for a decade.
How bear get into Central Park?
And he was like, out of nowhere.
Okay, it was me.
Ten years later.
All right.
My niece wrote that piece.
Yeah.
That's a weird coincidence, huh?
Okay.
I didn't see anything besides the headline.
He was going to get caught is why he came up with it it was the new yorker was about to report on it
and he was like i don't know they're probably gonna probably gonna slander me you know do you
mean story feel like he he is kind of like in that like internet scammer territory where
like like like the shit would like intentional or who cares typos
which filters out anyone remotely skeptical so like anyone who's still on the rfk junior hook
is i mean those hooks are in your brain oh yeah like the tentacles of
almost like the tentacles of a worm like like, this is just like, yeah, he got
whatever, like, 4% of the population believes him, like, really
believes in him. Yeah. That's a potent group, though, that are behind him.
They're like, bro, I don't care about the bear stuff or the dog stuff or the everything stuff.
I'm just saying, let's hear him out. He has some interesting theories.
What a cool guy
He acknowledges that climate change is real
Let's hear him out on everything else
Having to do with science
No matter what he says
Alright I am thrilled to be joined
As always by my co-host
Mr. Miles Gray
Miles Gray aka
Hey Vance
You don't have to fit in that glove tight.
Those days are over.
You don't have to lie about it to the right.
Hey, Vance.
You don't have to fuck that couch tonight.
Stroke the city for money.
You don't care if it's sweat or corduroy.
Hey, Vance!
Okay, shout out to Steaming Chuck
on the Discord for that.
One of my favorite karaoke jams.
So thank you for putting in the sign.
I was going to say shout out to Steaming Chuck
and shout out to
Miles Gray for the vocal performance
of A Lifetime.
That was beautiful. The second verse, too,
you can hear him singing to a cow.
He's like,
I love you since I knew ya.
I wouldn't talk down to ya.
Because it's a sofa.
I wouldn't talk down to a sofa.
You never talked down to a sofa?
No, no.
Is it just 2Web 1.0?
Or did you guys already talk about this?
Remember one of the earliest viral videos was those
like fucking six dudes like humping that
ottoman in the couch yeah
yeah yeah
yeah is that not
you know I don't know J.D. Vance's
face on J.D. Vance like not
just like yeah I'm just saying if you want
that video if you want a quick viral video
I can't believe no one's put his
face floating or whatever yeah yeah that video. If you want a quick viral video, I can't believe no one's put his face, a floating
PNG or whatever. Yeah.
Yeah. I'm just surprised. That's all.
Ottoman humpers. Yeah, he's probably going to hit
them with like a cease and desist, like the
way things are going because he's only knows how to
make things worse for himself.
Super producer Justin did bring
it. Yeah, I knew it.
Yeah, I could feel it in the
ether. We got too much content to make without that having come up. Of course. No, I knew it. I could feel it in the ether. We got too much content to make without that having come up.
Of course.
No, I get it.
I get it.
I'm just cut his own good joke.
Yeah.
Come on, Justin.
It's called humility.
Look, we said this is the summer of humility.
It's a season of humility.
That's right.
All right.
Andrew, we're going to get to know you a little bit better.
Did you even? Oh, no. I didn't even introduce a little bit better i just started talking i got too familiar i got too familiar i'm sorry we're always talking to each other anyways it's like yeah anyways oh yeah anyway oh yeah this guy anyways
we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by one of the very faces on Mount Zeitmore, a hilarious and brilliant writer, producer.
You know him from the Yo, Is This
Racist podcast. It's Andrew
T! Andrew!
I give it to ya with much trivia.
I like hot takes straight from
iHeartMedia.
Cool.
That was 10 seconds before we
started recording. I was like, I think I could pull this one off. That was perfect. before we started recording.
I was like, I think I could pull this one off.
That was perfect.
And you nailed it.
Flawless.
I could sense the COVID in your voice.
The gravel is still there.
Y'all, keep it safe.
Mask up.
COVID.
This COVID is the realest yet, I feel, for me personally.
Wow.
Did you go Pax Lovid for kovat no i probably should have i
i just was like i'm fine right uh probably i don't know how that works to no one in particular
yeah this is fine right hey man who are you talking to huh mostly mostly my dog i was telling
these guys off mic my last screen time check-in
clocked in it hey andrew your screen time is a little bit up you average 16.5 hours a day last
week that's we're gonna need you to check into some sort of phone rehab yeah two two full union
shifts of being on youtube per day. Right.
What does that do to your soul?
How do you feel?
I feel... Oh, we can talk about it because all of my over, under,
and search history...
And so deep and obscure.
I guess I will just say, broadly
speaking, I'm an old man
and I finally found...
I finally think I get YouTube for me.
Oh, yeah. The algorithm has finally been bent to your will.
I yes, sort of. Yeah, I like it. 40 hours of nonstop watching. I think it might have an idea
of what I'm into. Well, I think what happened was, I just like hated the idea of YouTube stuff. And so when I like don't in like engage with it,
YouTube would just keep like suggesting to me, okay, well, the average person who likes quote,
unquote, YouTube likes this stuff, which is all like, right wing garbage. So I was like,
Oh, I hate this. I hate this. I hate this. And then i finally watched enough of the internet that like i found
people who unironically call themselves youtubers and call the product that they make content
and who i don't hate okay so i started watching some of those folks and then it started suggesting
me more of that because i assume youtube is internally incentivized who's a creator we
like to use the term creator.
Exactly.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Who's a creator?
Like who?
Who's one of the creators at Kachira?
I'm really curious.
I think that's going to come up in the underrated and overrated.
Oh, okay, okay.
My bad, my bad, my bad.
We're doing all this now.
I think the first one, oh my God, what's his fucking name,
is this is a very, very famous person.
It's just new to me.
But this guy, Jarvis Johnson.
Okay.
It's close enough to the circles of people who have been on Daily Zeitgeist, have been on his show before.
But he is just a fucking YouTuber.
Talks to the camera, hot takes, knows everything about YouTube.
But he's mixed.
And he is, by virtue of not being white i feel like has at least like takes that i can
understand yeah and i'm just like oh this is like much better this is what i assume people like who
just watch like fucking mr beast or whatever without thinking about it like get out of it
anyway sure i was just i was like okay and then once I started on that train, the algorithm was like, okay, he finally has engaged with YouTube without.
They're like, hit him with it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So I've just been hit with it.
Like, you know, and it's good.
I, you know, I'm glad.
I'm glad I figured out a piece of this like ecosystem that I can stand.
But yeah, that's how, that's how sick I was.
YouTube videos. That's how sick I was youtube video that's how sick i was
and am youtube videos i feel like the second so i went to his twitter and he's got like
some something going on with cody co like yeah you know and it's just immediately like there's a beef
with somebody who i'm not familiar with.
It is all internal.
It is all part of this, like, ecosystem that I don't know.
It is interesting because it's like, I don't know any of the people he's talking about, except for, like, the most famous breakthrough to the household name-ish people.
And I'm not gonna learn, probably, but it is like, I'm like, okay, this guy at least has the right opinions on the basic social things.
So I'm like, okay, I can engage with this person.
Yeah.
It's not going to suddenly turn into like, yeah, some weird genocide apology or something.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Exactly.
We were in Boston staying with some friends last week and their kids are like from say eight up through like eighth grade. they their mom was like they live in la they've
probably seen like some famous people do you guys want to like ask them all people you were like oh
yeah we saw tom cruise and they were like oh my god that's so cool did you see mr beast and then
like asked us if we'd see mr beast like five more more times after we'd said no. They're like, but what
about Mr. Beast? Yeah, like an actual famous person. Oh, so you haven't seen a famous person.
Interesting. Interesting. You've seen Elon Musk. All right. We're going to get to know you a little
bit better in a moment. First, a couple of things that we're talking about in today's episode.
Kamala now leads Trump in the national polls. Trump continues to step.
He's finding his footing.
He's finding his footing.
We'll see.
And then the Veep Stakes is...
Should be announced today.
I mean, people probably know by the time you're listening to this who the Veep is.
But there's been a bit of a controversy around the leading candidate, Josh Shapiro. And the mainstream
media always talks about it as like due to pressure from progressive wing of the Democratic
Party. He's got some got some doubters, but they're very vague about why that is, where that
pressure comes from. In some cases, in some cases, they're just like the why that is, where that pressure comes from. In some cases, they're just like, the left wing is bad and scary and people will be scared.
Anyways, we'll talk about that.
We'll talk about the market correction that is happening around AI might be upon us.
We've been talking about this for a while, that a lot of the stock market is puffed up on AI hype.
And what they think AI does doesn't seem to be in line with reality. The stock market is puffed up on like AI hype and the,
what they think AI does doesn't seem to be in line with reality and whether
there would be a market correction.
The stock market is taking a shit.
And at least one of the narratives that's being spun around that particular
shit is that they have lost patience with AI.
So where's my money says the shareholders lost patience with AI. Where's my money, says the shareholders.
Right.
Poor AI.
I know.
It's like, he's just having a tough one, but you know.
We've all been on that line before.
Yeah.
Exactly.
You know what that's like.
You're like, oh, we're talking about practice.
You know?
They're always on fair to AI.
That's what AI is.
Yeah.
All of that.
Plenty more.
But first, Andrew, we do like to ask
our guest, what is something
from your search history?
My search history, again,
fever dream for the last two weeks.
Although, you know, I don't think I've
had a fever. Anyway,
my search history is,
did they make that Korean
sharpshooter into a Fortnite skin?
Which seems like the most obvious money on the table thing I've ever...
And they did not.
Nor did they...
You're giving away so many billion dollar ideas, right?
I know.
Nor did they do that Turkish dude.
Dude, that's the one who...
He was so...
Someone was saying...
He was explaining.
He's like, I like to use both eyes
open so i don't like that kind of stuff and then a lot of people like that's how like military
people talk like about shooting people like that sort of like yeah i mean i don't know if that's a
direct line but they're like that's that's like the kind of training you get when you're using
like arms for hurting but yeah but i think that was also part of
like the hyperbolic excitement around the guy who had his hand in his pocket while winning a silver
medal yeah people were trying to like hate on it and they were like this is actually a very normal
way to aim and there are some people who aim that way it's just very uncommon but everything they
said still made me be like this guy's kind
of cool like that's kind of impressive right i like i i liked that dude he did as of this morning
just before we logged in tweet very earnest fanboy stuff to elon musk that i think
if you if you rewind and just even look at him, if you showed that image to someone
and just like, yes or no, this guy loves Elon Musk,
before you knew what was going on.
What's the over-under that this guy wants to drive a Tesla?
Yeah, the answer is, of course.
So, he's just regressing to the obvious mean he presented.
Yes, dude.
Look, we contain multitudes. That's right. That's what I'm saying. Wait, look. We contain multitudes.
That's right.
That's what I'm saying, though.
He doesn't contain multitudes.
That guy, he's just nailed on what he is.
The cun guy who looks like that and acts like that.
Of course that guy loves Elon Musk.
Yeah.
The guy who got stuck on his dick while pole vaulting
actually just came out as big Trump supporter.
So that sucks.
What is something you think is underrated, Andrew?
Underrated.
Okay, this was my other fever dream in COVID.
I genuinely started outlining this as an essay that I think I'm not going to do.
So Silicon Valley, I'm sure you guys have covered it in some level,
but there's been a broad spectrum of like failed or failing AI wearables.
Yeah, right.
They're like Humane Pin and this new thing called Friend.
That's like the little speaker you wear on your neck, right?
Yeah, my friend called it the AI amulet.
And I'm like, yeah, that's basically what it is. And I think my, like, thesis, my quarter-baked thesis is that, like, Silicon Valley, because it has been emptied of anyone normal or middle class, lower middle class, there is not enough, like, street social pressure to have these people realize that they are like
unpopular dorks right the reason an ai amulet seems like a good business idea to a silicon
valley person is because they live in a bubble where conspicuously participating in silicon
valley shit is cool right right and they don't realize that humanity
does not agree with them anymore yeah and so like yeah so underrated as bullying dorks for their own
good because they have no like like there's no like actual focus group more real than like a
bunch of fucking teenagers on the corner and if someone had like if there
were normal pockets of normal people in san francisco or and palo alto if you walked around
with an apple vision pro your industrial designers would quickly realize oh this is not going to work
as a consumer product you know or a cyber truck or any of it right yeah but they don't have it
i think the mark like really cheap market, wear your new wearable tech to a
public high school when it gets out at 3 p.m.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Stand outside and just hear the kind of flaming you get from.
And an actual public high school.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Palo Alto High.
No, no, no.
A public high school where their property tax is less than whatever number would make a normal high school.
Sure, sure, sure.
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
But I think, yeah, it's true.
There is, like, so many of the ideas are like, this only sounds good to, like, y'all.
Yeah.
Like, you're not, and the whole thing is like, what problem are you solving with this?
Because it's not like, I wish Star Trek was real.
That's my
problem that i need solving like which i get that part but aside from that that's not the kind of
thing where suddenly it's like you get that kind of ubiquity where it's like well now everyone needs
the ai and yeah well or like like i mean the problem doesn't have to be a technical problem
you know it can be i'm a fucking wristwatch guy the problem can just be i want a piece of jewelry
that shows that i'm part of this group they just don't realize their group is not cool and
their group was cool for like you know whatever a small window from like 2011 maybe for like a year
because it's like oh you can be rich and you're not, you're not, it's not obvious to everyone that you're evil yet.
Right.
We actually wrote don't be evil on our letterhead.
So that worked.
Yeah.
As long as that worked for people, but it doesn't work anymore and they don't realize it.
But then they all got so rich from that, that they were able to just expel literally everybody else from the city in
which they live so now they're just all by themselves being impressed by each other and
while doing things that believe you get your ass kicked for doing something like that you're in
cincinnati ohio i mean i know enough people in the bay that are are very sufficiently outraged
enough by tech people so like yeah yall, we're counting on you.
Really make, go harder on them.
Go harder on them. Let them know. Just normal roast.
Just, you know, you don't have to beat
anyone's ass. You don't have to not beat
anyone's ass. But you don't have to beat anyone's ass.
Or just say, oh, so you're a tough guy,
huh? And that's it. Just say that
and let it keep it moving. I'll say you're tough.
What? What? And then they'll be
thinking about that all day. Anyway, AI wearables. I'll say you tell them. What? What? And then they'll be thinking about that all day.
Anyway, AI wearables.
I watched,
I have so many images saved for a, again,
like a sub stack
that I'll never write
of people wearing
Apple Vision Pros.
I did see somebody
with the glass,
again, glasses
that are like
the camera glasses.
Like glasses
with the camera on it and they were like
bragging about how good the quality of the video is so for what though like what do you what do
you surreptitiously videoing exactly you know it's better because then no one knows i'm taking video
pretty cool i'm just a guy with sunglasses at a at a volleyball practice that's all yeah yeah
it's like do you guys just like spend 10 minutes thinking about the like worst use case of this
before you fucking release it and spend nope nope i'm gonna stop you right there nope we do not
and 10 minutes stop talking yeah like honestly like, every tech company just needs one hater.
They don't have any haters.
And, like, just one...
Listen, I don't want to be
Silicon Valley's hater,
but someone needs to be
the Silicon Valley.
Can you imagine from this,
they're like,
Andrew, we'd love for you
to come up to Palo Alto.
Right.
We'd love to show you
sort of, like, the new line
of products we're thinking about
and just fucking rip our heads off, dude. We'd love to show you sort of like the new line of products we're thinking about and just rip our heads off, dude.
It's much, it's much cheaper than sending the street teams that we usually do out to,
uh, Louisville, Kentucky to get made fun of.
Truly like, like someone there, there just needs to be like a consumer focus group company
said, this is, this is my actual billion dollar idea that someone else could take in the Bay Area.
Which is like, just like your focus group is just like 20 diverse teens from lower middle class backgrounds.
Right.
Yeah.
Right.
Not people who like, it's like price isn't a barrier.
Like the people they talk to, price isn't a barrier to like 99% of the products that they're hawking versus other people are like first of all do i even want to aspire to that no or but even even if they're not representative
what they can do is find your vulnerability quickly right right right like right oh so these
they call these pedo goggles these camera glasses okay oh if i saw someone wearing these i would
call the police i would like yeah make sure, make sure I know why my high school is weird.
They're weird.
Okay.
Good to know.
Good to know.
I think like what the,
other than the smartphone,
what have been the successful products out of like,
that have like broken through to the mainstream that you like see on a
regular basis out of Silicon Valley?
The only thing I can think of is those hoverboards, but like, are those even out of Silicon Valley. The only thing I can think of is those hoverboards.
But are those even out of Silicon Valley?
Those are everywhere.
Those are out of Shenzhen, China.
I'm pretty sure.
Because that's like a gyroscope.
Right.
They're just taking the lithium batteries.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Aside from making little stabilizing gimbal arms for cell phones that's like something i always see people hawking
online i feel like honestly i feel like the tablet was like the last thing that was new and everyone's
like oh shit yeah tablet that's not cool to walk around in any way no or take photos of at a
sporting event yeah no i would say Apple Watch kind of.
Even that one is mainly known
for being a gift
people return.
Yeah.
Is it?
That's what I'm worried about.
It's like,
there's no reason a kid needs an Apple Watch.
The people who need Apple Watch
are the people who need their fucking
steps measured and heart rate.
I was saying my niece
got an Apple Watch
so they didn't have to get her a phone.
Right.
And so that way, there is a way.
I was saying it looks like the 2020s
version of when a kid got a pager
back in the day.
Which is sort of like, yeah, You really can't do much dirt on this
thing, but at least we can talk to you.
Nokia bricks. Those are coming back
in a big way with the kids.
I've been on
my
barely surviving
constitutionals, evening constitutionals.
I switched back to wired headphones.
Oh, yeah?
Which ones? What do you got just
a regular ass because i just have an iphone so just the ones that came with your phone that came
with the phone well when you're marathon and like that the battery can't keep up with your lifestyle
andrew 16 hours on the fucking block no bro i know that you understand yeah understand how my phone battery doesn't exist anymore.
It's just a suggestion.
It's just been powered all the way up and down.
30?
Yeah.
I don't know what that means.
What's something you think is overrated, Andrew?
Overrated, once again, format purity.
Okay.
As someone who is like, okay found some youtube i like or like i mean it's just like
this kind of thing like i i've been like thinking about this for so long but like like the people
who like i'm a fan of youtube or like like you know the prior version of this was like
streaming like oh streaming is materially different netflix is different than
fucking broadcast tv and it's the thing that like i remember when i worked at comedy central i worked
in the digital department you know years and years and years ago before netflix was a huge thing
and i remember all of those people being like one day we're gonna run this place the whole company is going to be
internet and like they're like worship of like the fiber optic cable or the different fiber optic
cable i was like this is fucking crazy like you guys don't know shit about like developing tv
shows right oh i remember you saying that i'm they're just going to push you out once the medium is lucrative enough.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But I think to me it's the same thing
that I was like, I don't like YouTube.
I do like some YouTube.
This was my
same revelation.
It doesn't mean
anything.
It's just like...
Content is content, is what you're saying i
get it yeah i feel you man tense attack man exactly but also i will say this this was my
like first like like realization that like i the the cool thing of being like like gen z millennials
like just like and ironically using marketing speak to like describe
themselves used to bum me out so much and now i'm like yeah we all make content guys
yeah creators yeah get in on this synergy man oh god so you're saying like format purity being
like oh i only write for tv yeah yeah Yeah. I don't care for YouTube.
I love vinyl.
I only like
music on vinyl. It's really all the same.
You know, and it's
all content.
Your heart is opening.
I like to see that. Yeah.
And again, that may be because of cardiovascular
damage, but we'll find out.
We will find out and report back.
All right.
Let's take a quick break.
We'll come back and we'll talk about some news.
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And we're back. We're back. And and all right let's check in with the polls because they are
in no way indicative of what's going to happen in the election but they are indicative of
which side is freaking out and we we got some we got some intel yeah yeah she's uh up now uh about three points i believe kamala harris
yes yes yes she's uh uh the the polls nationally have swung uh her way 46 points to 43 points
at the beginning of january when it was biden trump trump had a four point lead over biden
so that's uh pretty substantial like it a lot of people are like, oh, it pretty much her entry into the race has negated like all the negatives that Biden had or lack of enthusiasm. So in a way, like a lot of the map is looks different. More states are in play than previously believed.
believed. So yeah, a lot of confidence for Democrats. For Republicans, mainly Trump, a lot of freaking out. Trump is like, these polls are fake. Okay, dude. Then he's like,
he chickened out of like debating her. And he's like, was also using logic. He's like,
well, I lead in the polls. So why should I even have to debate? It's like, I'm sorry.
When was that a condition of having a debate based on who was up or down in the polls, but okay. Even people on truth social
were calling him a coward for trying to avoid this debate with Kamala Harris, which is a bit weird
for them. I don't know if that's like also just people like having a, you know, coordinated troll
effort on truth social, but like a hashtag was trending about like Trump's a coward. And I'm like,
troll effort on truth social but like a hashtag was trending about like trump's a coward and i'm like that can't be their people then he had a rally in atlanta over the weekend complained that
i could have had a bigger crowd as kamala but the school organizers they're trying to shut us down
like a bunch of communists like he had this whole thing about how they could have had more people in
there like he was really fucking kept talking about how many more people could have been in this arena um and also like he added a new bit of like flair to the rally in the form
of like these like gas air cannons that like blew up on the side of the runway like it was some kind
of fucking wrestlemania entrance i think this is clear he's like we need better vibes do we have
making this dad what do we have? Amber Rose? Oh, boy.
All right.
Get the air cannons.
So it looks like something is fucking excited.
Exciting about this, you know, these appearances.
But he continues now to just like still slur his way through speeches.
I will play some clips from this Atlanta rally because, you know,
our man is still having trouble with reading and words.
It was wild.
Like we talked about this last week,
but it was wild how quickly when Biden dropped out,
he was like, I don't have a cognitive defect.
You do.
Like he immediately got so insecure about that.
He was also like, Biden wasn't too old to run.
And you're like, sir.
Yeah.
Yo, bro, shut up.
Seems okay to me.
Another 80-year-old man.
As far as Trump slurs at the rally, this is by far the most charitable.
The best version.
Yeah, exactly.
They aren't.
They're just speech.
Best case scenario.
But yeah, this is one where he does this thing, though, too, where it's like half you're old,
but also half so insecure that when he fucks up up mid-sentence he completely pivots to try
and make another point rather than be like oh sorry like correcting anyway here's an example
of this when he says national wrecking anyway you'll hear it appreciate it together we will
stop kamala harris's nation wrecking i'll tell you what when you see what she's done to our nation
she's wrecking our nation the radicalism will take back our country from the worst administration in American history.
Uh-huh.
Nation wrecked.
Yeah, I'll tell you what.
Yeah, I'll tell you what.
She is wrecking.
That didn't happen.
You did.
Yeah, what?
Who do you think you are?
He's so proud of himself on the second take.
Wrecking.
Yeah, yeah.
I'll tell you what.
Yeah, yeah. Wreck wrecking i've got an air
wrecking here's the other thing he also goes in on her saying something about violent marbs or
mobs i don't know you decide should not stop she said she was endorsing to fund the place
and the police and she said violent And she said, violent mobs.
Let the violent mobs keep going.
Okay, he needed another stab at that one.
Yeah.
It's such a stark contrast. Even from that rally that Kamala Harris had, it was like, wow, man.
They're saying, there's real political messaging in that speech.
It was like, they got the mobs.
I mean the mobs. I mean,
the mobs and they wanted to fund the place up in this place. I mean,
police just,
uh,
yeah.
So,
uh,
and then also there was like this moment too,
where Kyle Rittenhouse was like,
I can't support Donald Trump anymore.
Cause he's not about the second amendment.
And then very quickly he like had a mea culpa and was like,
I'm,
uh,
I got some bad advice from people obviously
i'm going to be voting for trump because they came for his ass when he tweeted that so there's a lot
a lot of unsure unsureness uh happening but you know we'll see because there's a there's a there's
a real good chance that a lot of the enthusiasm could be just erased with the wrong vp pick at
least from my perspective yeah i think most people but yeah the vp pick is really the next like i
said that's the final not one of the final things to put the ticket together where either people go
or yeah yeah so it's down i will just say like it it does make it clearer and clearer like how what a weird
position the republicans are in and there is a lawnmower just going outside my window just going
off so i can't can't even hear it sounds good to me yeah no and that's fine what is it a riding
mower it might be a riding mower all right john i John, I can't see it, but I just hear it.
All right.
What a weird position the Republicans are in, because both parties had this same terrible problem and that their candidates are like way too old and kind of losing it.
And the Democrats had it worse.
And then like one one of them fixes the problem.
It's just like really. and like all their talking points were
drawing attention to that it's just a weird i i don't know i guess everybody's like pointed this
out already but it is just i don't know like they both have the exact same horrible problem
happening and one of them just magically fixes it and he obviously can't fix it so i mean nikki
haley was like when i remember in the primary she's like the party that's gonna win is the one
that ditches their elderly person which you know and now that you look at you're like oh well yeah
yeah i may have had i know you were saying that in the process of a primary to be like get rid of
trump and that's how we beat them but now now it really does feel like, Oh yeah.
Just whoever gets real about like the leadership,
it will help in terms of support,
but we'll see.
It's November.
They were just so certain it was not going to happen.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And pretty rightfully,
I like the fact that it happened at all.
It was like fucking amazing.
It is really amazing.
And yeah, they, I think it's really hard for them to imagine Trump doing it
because it could never possibly ever happen.
Just trying to imagine him being like,
I'm going to do what's best for the country makes you laugh.
If he does that, it will be from a jet like en route to moscow
he's like and i'm doing the best thing which is i'll never come back because it's so crooked there
and i'm now kicking it with steven seagal one of the coolest guys ever so i know you tell us like
if he did it he for sure would then defer to or like like nominate fucking don jr right oh yeah yeah yeah would you think
that would be incredible could you imagine that debate you know how much fucking blow that guy
would probably be doing just to be like i gotta be confident out there man for the smallest
appearance yeah mar-a-lago interview with j Vance before JD Vance was like a VP
oh man
you need to do all of your cocaine
the VP race
it looks like it's down to Shapiro
Waltz and Kelly
there was some speculation where Mark Kelly tweeted
something and deleted it I didn't read the headline
oh my god maybe it has something to do with him being
picked whatever
I think there seems to be a lot of talk about who it should be and right now i'm seeing
more about who it shouldn't be yeah yeah which is josh shapiro and there are a few things happened
at towards the end of last week there was a woman's group that's like advocates for safer
workplaces like urged kamala harris to reconsider reconsider like picking Josh Shapiro because of the way he handled a sexual harassment case, like within his own office and like paying this woman like $295,000 settlement from like public funds.
And people were like, are you kind of like backing up like your, your homie that was perpetrating this stuff, which wasn't a great look. The UAW,
the United Auto Workers, they said, we'd rather not have Shapiro either. They said, uh, Kentucky
governor, Andy Beshear and Minnesota governor, Tim Waltz, those were the top choices for the union.
They pointed at, uh, one of the big things was that Governor Shapiro is like big on school vouchers.
And, you know, like Sean Fain was like public education has been under attack for like from Republican administrations forever. Like having somebody who's like less in on public education is a no for us, dog.
Bernie Sanders and other unions would like Tim Waltz as well for his like working class cred.
You know, like Waltz, like join the auto workers on a picket line.
People just like that.
But it's interesting to see that like the establishment pick seems to be
Shapiro or at least a lot of public pundits,
both like the,
you know,
center right and sender center,
right.
Ish like Republicans that now speak on places like MSNBC are also being
like,
obviously the person it should be is Josh Shapiro.
And using the same sort of debunked logic we talked about last week,
which is like, well, he's from Pennsylvania.
You need Pennsylvania to win.
And because they like him in Pennsylvania, he can win Pennsylvania.
And a lot of research shows that the VP pick has
really very little impact on something.
That logic really isn't borne out in the data.
But here we are.
I saw a stat probably
on Twitter somewhere that was like
part of his big approval rating is because
MAGA people love him.
He has approval
from a third of
MAGA voters. And it's like hey guys those people
are not going to vote for caballeros right like yeah pretty sure that's not going to happen
even it's like this whole with him yeah right and it's the same way we have these other sort
of purple states where like you'll have like a democrat win the governor the governor's mansion
and then down ballot. They're like,
yeah, but Republicans for other stuff.
Yeah.
You know,
like where they're like between the two,
I can make this choice or whatever,
but the,
this,
the veep stakes,
it's very touch and go.
I mean,
I think it feels like you're going to,
you're going to gain more or there'll be less hand wringing and less fracturing.
If you go with someone that isn't Shapiro,
when you already have people that are part of the coalition of voters democrats are courting
like coming out and being like explicit and be like maybe not him maybe not him yeah like there
was another thing like people were pointing out like when he was in college he wrote this like
paper talking about palestinians like being unable to like self-govern very, very fucking backwards take on Palestinian people.
His office was like,
he was 21 and writing that also don't ask him to comment on what is
happening there now,
but he is different.
Right.
He is a different age now.
Yeah.
And that is indisputable.
He did compare student protesters to the KKK,
but other than that, it seems to be,, seems to have both feet on the ground there.
Yeah, yeah.
He does seem to.
So according to odds makers who are true overlords can take bets on this.
They said that he was like way out in front last Wednesday.
due to the pressure from some of the progressive wings of the party,
Tim Waltz has been the betting benefactor of that push,
going from plus 1,400 at UK Bookmaker, bet 365,
to plus 275 on Sunday. So in a matter of three days,
he became pretty close with Shapiro fairly rapidly. I feel like gamblers are pretty good at like
getting inside information on shit so that's the one thing that's giving me hope the history of
the democratic party like tacking towards the center is the thing that is not giving me hope
yeah the election market though is such or like like the election choices market though, is such a... Or, like, the election choices market.
Yeah.
It is wild that this is... Because it's, like, why...
It's not like, you know, there's, like, a...
Like a players association or something.
Like, what is to stop someone from the Kamala Harris administration
to just put a bunch of money into this market
because they know the answer?
Right.
Oh, right, right, right. Someone's like i was like yeah like we're seeing some betting irregularities around the vp pick
like why wouldn't like you this just feels like whoever it is including kamla herself
just yeah clean up would seem odd because it's not something that's i guess you know like an
athletic competition seemingly up to chance or whoever the best performer is.
There's zero chance involved here.
Who knows what this person is thinking, except for maybe 40 people who know what she's thinking and maybe tell people.
But like, it's interesting to see.
It would be amazing if Kamala was just in it for the action.
The whole.
It's just like trying to get an edge on the betting markets just like some
dejounte murray shit yeah but the other thing that's uh like seeing like the like sort of
center-right punditry talk about it like they've they've said again they're like one of her
vulnerabilities like this is obviously coming from a center right perspective quote is the multitude of leftist positions she foolishly
took in the 2019 campaign a shapiro selection unambiguously moves the ticket to the center
then they all go on it's like and if harris pulls back from shapiro after the campaign against him
from the left it will look weak uh-huh it's yeah it's the standard democrat and mainstream media
narrative that the democrats have to it's the same thing that every time what's his name was
writing about that saying that they should nominate mitt romney it's like just be republicans
but say you're democrats how could that ever backfire right right right yeah i mean
i will say like that though was also the train of thought that was like stick with biden stick
with biden and i'm wondering if the very short term like hey not doing what these dummies always
suggest it seems to have worked yes right might finally sink in.
Yeah, I mean, in a way, it's like,
we thought this was an L going into it,
but do we keep going against what accepted wisdom
is that tends to be wrong?
Do you guys want to try to win?
Nah.
I'm just fucking around here. Call me crazy.
Maybe we should try to win this election this time.
I'm just blue-skying it here.
Come on
Hey give me some of whatever Andrew's smoking
I don't know do we want to win
At least try
Let's try let's just try
I don't know Miles who am I
Do we want to win
You're some guy who's all fucked up off of whatever
Andrew's smoking
This guy's high as a kite You're some guy who's all fucked up off of whatever Andrew's smoking.
This guy's high as a kite.
All right.
Let's take a quick break and we'll come back.
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And we're back.
We're back.
And we've been talking for a while
to the delight of our audience.
Now, some of our audience are like,
we get it.
AI is bullshit.
Stop talking about this.
But we have been talking for a while
about how much of the mainstream media narrative around AI is kind of out of line with reality, how this idea of the artificial general intelligence that they are promising that I think the theory that they want us to keep in mind that they might have in mind is just like yeah it's like a person brain you stick in a
washing machine and now your washing machine is so fucking smart bro yeah oh whoa maybe a little
less detergent on this one is this cotton okay i know how to handle this yeah exactly i don't
mind having a conversation with it you never have to talk to people again you just have a washing
machine that you're in love with anyways Anyways, it's all just a sophisticated version
of the autocomplete function when you're texting
is basically what they're working with in the AGI.
We had AI experts on.
They were like, this is all bullshit.
It's not going to get you to a place
where it's all just marketing.
But they said it will. It's like, yeah, so they can inflate the value of their companies.
Right.
And I'm like, oh, yeah, yeah.
Is this the tipping point that Wall Street kind of starts to realize that Silicon Valley are just liars?
I can't imagine because it would lose so many of them so much money to realize that.
Like, I feel like they're seeing the same shit we are.
But yeah, so like the one side is like people who are actual experts on how these AGI work are like, it's not what they claim it is.
The other thing is like when you talk to people who pay attention to the stock market, they're like a lot of value is tied up in agi and like ai being what
they say it is and so it was like on the one hand you're like something has to give on the other
hand you're like or not because they've been able to just like be heads down and maintain their like
high stock market value throughout an entire pandemic, you know, like without really letting any of the
reality in, in a lot of cases. So anyways, stock markets around the world are tumbling.
And one of the narratives that's coming up in line with this fall is that people are losing
patience with AI and AI companies.
When are you going to be able to do the thing that you claim this could do?
Just a little bit longer, dude.
I just need $4 billion a quarter.
Just a tiny 4BQ.
Okay, when do you turn the $4 billion into any money?
Bro, any minute now be
patient dude it's cooking man just like don't even invest if you don't want to fucking be part
of the future dog like i'm sick of this dude you can be poor be poor you can be a brokey dude
i i in my fever dream i did ask Meta AI how I could short AI stocks.
And you would be surprised at how little it wants to tell me that.
Yeah.
Oh, really?
In-depth answers on everything except that.
Yeah.
I don't know.
Hey, find me a way to...
Oh, I mean, there's...
Oh, financial advice is really tricky.
I'm not asking for advice.
I'm asking for a method.
advice is really tricky like i'm not asking for advice i'm asking for a method i can tell you which stocks you want to triple down on on ai right now if you are interested in that information
but yeah this was like what the sequence of events was basically like that jobs report
bad jobs report yeah followed by investors selling off a lot of tech stocks and the, quote, once hot artificial intelligence trade,
tech shares were among the worst performers Monday.
So yesterday.
I do like how this, I mean, surely this has to be among the quickest
that like a tech trend has, you know,
because I feel like it took like even like the bullshit ones,
like cryptocurrency, like a while like like people to kind of just generally realize this is because this is like
still within the like mainstream publicity window like there are ai ads running during the olympics
comes for like it's mostly ai yeah yeah and so so like this is like the i guess the rug or the
the fucking scales have been lifted during the mainstream pr push which seems much faster than
usual yeah usually they're able to get that campaign done and then you can have a coin
based super bowl ad and most people still don't realize it's a scam. Right. Whereas I think most people realize AI
is a scam
while they're pushing it. I don't know.
Maybe not. Do they not?
I mean, Wall Street realizes it.
No one was
making money shorting Coinbase
during the Coinbase Super Bowl
ad. Right.
Which is what is happening with AI.
Yeah.
It just seems faster.
I'm not saying it wasn't going to get there,
but I was like,
huh?
Is it just,
are we just realizing it now?
Is AI more half-baked as a grift
than like cryptocurrency was?
It's like weird.
It's weird that they're like figured it out so soon.
Yeah.
It's just,
yeah.
I mean, I think the, one of the big they're, like, figured it out so soon. Yeah. It's just, yeah. I mean, I think one of the big ones was when, like, one of the, like, researchers at Goldman Sachs was like, y'all, this thing ain't fucking doing shit.
They're like, it's, like, too much spend, too little benefit.
And I think when, once, like, Wall Street's like, bro, we're used to fucking making money here.
Like, we like giving you money because you think we're going to get something back.
But the whole name of the game here is shareholder value.
And we don't see the value right now.
Yeah.
But I mean, that's the thing is like, does this trigger like a much larger recession is what's kind of freaky.
Like the market correction around AI obviously can have cascading effects.
Yeah.
My bet would be that it won't be the level of complete evaporation
that we saw with Bitcoin and all the crypto markets
because AI is like that with magic tricks
where it can answer a question where you're like, it's back online. It's smart. There are things that AI, because AI is basically just a marketing phrase for things computers do good yeah yeah yeah like any algorithmic thing that a computer does well
like i feel like they're going to be able to keep coming back to this well and it will be
profitable i think they're just going to lose the term they they the the misstep was in the
marketing of ai as yeah and i'm like right it's because it's nothing and it never will be ready but it's not ready not this early yeah and also like i think everything it's also maybe they kind of benefited
and got fucked over by what movies how movies sort of inoculated us where we're like ai right
where hayley joel osment is a fake baby who goes around and talks with his robot teddy bear as they
solve complex problems
damn you know what i mean like there's just like that movie was sad for me like before i had kids
i can't imagine watching that now like oh my god like having kids the age of daily
i know when that little robot was like at the bottom of the sea like deactivated I remember being like what sociopath would make
a robot like that like
if you actually made a robot
that shaped and acted
like Haley Joel Osment that would be
a crime against humanity
like an actual crime against
humanity doing that in real life
yeah
so fucked up
so stupid wave of the future so and i i do want to caveat this
by saying i don't know shit about the stock market uh you know it could be tomorrow they're
like actually none of that was like ai sell off i don't know it's just it does it is a reason to
bring back up like it does feel like there is this bubble that is happening.
And we at least know experts in AI say, here's what it actually does.
It's just an autocomplete.
And the companies say, it's this thing.
So who knows?
I'm not an expert.
However, DatNoFact on Twitter, also new to the stock market, but had a good piece of analysis.
They said, hello, I'm new to the stock market, but had a good piece of analysis. They said,
hello, I'm new to the stock market. Is it good when the Intel CEO starts praying?
And then quoted Pat Gelsinger, who wrote, let your eyes look straight ahead. Fix your gaze directly before you. Give careful thought to the paths for your feet and be steadfast in all your ways.
Proverbs 425 to 26.
Proverbs 420 something bros.
I mean,
one thing that has been nice about Twitter is like revealing how many of
these alleged like cold calculating Titans of industry are just as superstitious as any other dummy. alleged, like, cold calculating titans of industry are
just as superstitious as any other dummy.
Yeah, right, right.
They're not seeing the Matrix. It's also
a bunch of hand-married bastards. Yeah, they just got lucky.
It's like survivor bias. Like,
their dumb idea worked out.
And, like, thus all of their
like, fake magic works,
quote-unquote. Yeah. And they go
through the same life cycle of their dumb idea works out just by
random chance.
They read Ayn Rand.
They convince themselves that they're like magical geniuses.
And then reality kicks in.
They're like,
and lo,
I said unto the Lord,
please don't let this bubble.
Please.
We just need enough compute.
All of my houses.
Yes.
All right, Andrew T.,
what a pleasure having you, as always,
on The Daily Zeitgeist.
Where can people find you, follow you,
all that good stuff?
I still got my podcast,
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I don't know.
Amazing.
Is there a work
of media you've been enjoying well yeah again so i've watched so much youtube and i think my
favorite one about this ai thing was by a youtuber named angela collier who is i would say medium
famous but uh the one i really liked uh that's relevant to today's topics was the malicious optimism of AI-first companies.
And she goes on this run about
when the CEO of Zoom was like,
we'll be able to have basically robot versions of yourself
do your Zoom meetings and do your entire job.
Yeah.
And this is good for you, the consumer.
Really good for you.
That's very funny. Yeah. It's like, oh, yeah Really good for you. That's very funny.
Yeah.
It's like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's probably...
His pitch was like,
you can just send the AI version of yourself to meetings
and you can go to the beach.
Right.
And it's like, yeah,
that's definitely what your employer is going to be dealing with.
That's definitely how it's going to go.
No, no, no.
We'll pay you.
You go to the beach.
As long as your ghost software is working. Yeah, this robot that
we own that does your entire job,
we'll definitely continue paying you.
But also, I'm way late
to this, and I hope I haven't said this
previously, but I've been listening
non-stop pretty much. I saw the TV
glow soundtrack. It's
very good. Nice. I like
it. I will just say I like the movie. I like this
better than the movie. Wow. Amazing. Check. I like it. I will just say, I like the movie. I like this better than the movie.
Wow.
Amazing.
Check it out,
folks.
Miles gray.
Where can people find you as their work media?
You've been enjoying.
Uh,
yeah,
you can find me on Twitter and Instagram at miles of gray.
If you like basketball, like Jack and I do,
you can catch us on miles and Jack got mad.
Uh,
and if you like 90 day fiance,
catch me out on four 20 day fiance. Very clever. Uh, and if you like 90 day fiance, catch me out on four 20 day fiance.
Very clever.
Uh,
some things I am like clever,
very fun,
very clever,
very fun.
Thank you very much.
Um,
one is from at Matthew K beg be,
it said,
RIP Edgar Allen Poe.
You would have loved watching a beloved children's author,
slowly driven to insanity by black mold inside the walls of her castle. was on my short list as well i will yeah dude there's just
that picture is so wild like where i'm like is she on some gray garden shit like she's so insulated
where like she won't even allow people like um jk your walls do you you just have like the bathtub running all day, every day for years?
Is something happening?
Are your mirrors like constantly steamed everywhere?
Yeah.
And then, okay, but still, okay, underscore, but underscore still tweeted Trump in 1993.
I'm very fond of Kermit.
We get along well.
We go to a lot of the same places. And Marla,
she likes Miss Piggy. And they get along
tremendously.
Trump 2024. It's a pig
wearing jewelry. It's disgusting.
She hits him. Sometimes very hard.
And he says, thank you, dear.
That's crazy.
Holy shit.
You can find me on twitter
at jack underscore o'brien
tweet I've been enjoying
Michaela at
Michielamas
Michielamas
M-I-K-K-I-E-L-A-M-A-S
tweeted I'd be dead if I
was in a quiet place cause I'd be
farting
oh yeah I saw that one too. Yeah.
Hell yeah. You can find
me on Twitter at Jack underscore
O'Brien. You can find us on Twitter at Daily
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We link off to the information that we talked
about in today's episode. What was
a song that we think you might enjoy? Hey Miles.'s episode what was a song that we think you might enjoy hey miles yeah is there a song that you think people might enjoy
yes i think they're gonna like uh this track by jordana and tv girl called better in the dark
it's got like it's got this like breathy sort of you know diy pop kind of vocals but the production
feels like if like a rap like boom bap sample producer was like,
I need to kind of make like an accessible indie pop track.
This is what they would come up with.
So I liked the production on it because it's like sample heavy,
but the vocals are completely different than, you know,
most sample based productions like this that feel kind of more straightforward.
So yeah, Better in the Dark by Jordana TV Girl.
Oh shit.
The, uh, I saw the glow of the tv is from alex g that's like one of my favorite musicians shout out to alex g
and uh yeah did did this filmmaker do the um we're all going to the world's fair yes yeah okay i have
not seen yeah but he did the the soundtrack to that as well.
Cool.
All right.
I'm very slow with my Google fingers.
Anyways, we will link off to that song in the footnotes.
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