The Daily Zeitgeist - Who Got The Keys To The Veep? Tech Bubble About To Pop? 08.06.24

Episode Date: August 6, 2024

In episode 1720, Jack and Miles are joined by co-host of Yo, Is This Racist?, Andrew Ti, to discuss… Kamala Now Leads Trump In The National Polls…Trump Continues To Dither, VEEP VEEP, Who Got The ...Keys To The Keep VRRRRRRROOOOOOOM, The Market Correction Around AI Is Upon Us? And more! Who is Josh Shapiro? Get to know the Pennsylvania governor and potential Harris VP pick The hottest new bet? One candidate who Kamala Harris may pick for VP Josh Shapiro becomes odds-on betting favorite to become Kamala Harris' vice president Josh Shapiro's vice presidential prospects spark debate over Israel policy, antisemitism Kamala Harris to meet Sunday with Kelly, Shapiro, Walz as final VP decision nears: reports UAW head says Shapiro’s support for school vouchers puts him low on the VP list Warren Buffett’s Berkshire Hathaway sold nearly half its stake in Apple LISTEN: Better In The Dark by Jordana & TV GirlSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:47 in to see just how powerful the fan blade is. Yeah. As any true fan explorer. Hold an umbrella next to it. Oh, yeah. I would just throw toothpicks. I remember my grandma
Starting point is 00:00:58 would have them at her house. I would just throw them in just to watch them get fucking whipped out like at crazy speed. Oh, my God. Yeah. Look, you're learning cause and effect
Starting point is 00:01:07 at a young age. This is what we had instead of smartphones. Yeah, exactly. Throwing toothpicks in a big-ass blade thing. Yeah. Basically, any cell phone game. It's like a Fruit Ninja. Did you ever do the thing to see
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Starting point is 00:04:14 I'm at the point where my wife is officially like, you need a pedicure. Ooh. Why? We need to take these out of your hands. Wait, what is happening happening what is going on with dry you know i mean my feet i'm not i'm acting like i have like fucking award-winning feet i don't i have feet that have i think asbestos on the bottom because i'm walking out here this is for the people to decide you gotta show gotta show feet on me and see what happens. It's beyond that, Andrew.
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Starting point is 00:05:02 Who, me? Oh, you caught me as I was darning my stockings in the night. And I guess my feet were uncovered. Yeah. Wait, are they, it's just got like, do you got them dry pads and shit like underneath? Dry pads. Thick ass, like you put the lighter underneath? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:18 Put the lighter underneath. I used to do that shit as a kid. Just to like kind of prove to myself, I was like, yeah, bro, this shit is thick. I can chill it for like five seconds. Create a nice little... Okay. Without anybody noticing. Mamma mia.
Starting point is 00:05:31 Without feeling it. Mamma mia. Get the microplane out. Any Parmigiano-Reggiano for you? Get the microplane out because that's when I brainstorm. When I foot-cell storm. There you go. yeah foot cell storm uh anyways my name is jack o'brien aka robert brought a dead bear cub he bought it for a dime his sister had another one she paid it for a bike he put the bike with the
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Starting point is 00:06:16 Great job, La Caroni. What a time. Great job, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. What a time to be alive, you guys. Jesus Christ. It gets worse. I love it. He's like, it's probably going to be a bad story about me.
Starting point is 00:06:29 And then some from the New Yorker post a photo of him with the dead bear cub. And you're like, these haters. It's probably going to be a bad story. You're holding a dead animal pretending. Like, that's clearly been, like, it's bleeding from its injuries. And you're like, ah, it's biting me. Oh, no. All right. Let's go to Pete. Let's go been like it's bleeding from its injuries and you're like ah it's biting me oh no all right let's go to p let's go to lugers huh gotta go to keynes by the way when you're up in central park let's just say at least the last time he would like last time there
Starting point is 00:06:59 was a horrible picture of him with a dead animal he was pretending to eat a dog yeah this time he had the bear pretending to eat him which would be an improvement if his alibi was not i was going to cut it up for meat and bear fur so that i could have like baby bear meat and yeah fur like no one's really really kind of sussing that part out or it's like hold on so you just want to eat dead bear cub meat yeah is this going to be a big enough story that like we don't even have to explain what the fuck we're talking about or do we need to tell people i don't know i mean listen we talked about it on monday's episode you can listen to it there look rfk threw away a dead bear cub in central park he's had a dead bear cub in his car, first of all.
Starting point is 00:07:45 Threw it away in Central Park. Big mystery for a decade. How bear get into Central Park? And he was like, out of nowhere. Okay, it was me. Ten years later. All right. My niece wrote that piece.
Starting point is 00:07:58 Yeah. That's a weird coincidence, huh? Okay. I didn't see anything besides the headline. He was going to get caught is why he came up with it it was the new yorker was about to report on it and he was like i don't know they're probably gonna probably gonna slander me you know do you mean story feel like he he is kind of like in that like internet scammer territory where like like like the shit would like intentional or who cares typos
Starting point is 00:08:27 which filters out anyone remotely skeptical so like anyone who's still on the rfk junior hook is i mean those hooks are in your brain oh yeah like the tentacles of almost like the tentacles of a worm like like, this is just like, yeah, he got whatever, like, 4% of the population believes him, like, really believes in him. Yeah. That's a potent group, though, that are behind him. They're like, bro, I don't care about the bear stuff or the dog stuff or the everything stuff. I'm just saying, let's hear him out. He has some interesting theories. What a cool guy
Starting point is 00:09:05 He acknowledges that climate change is real Let's hear him out on everything else Having to do with science No matter what he says Alright I am thrilled to be joined As always by my co-host Mr. Miles Gray Miles Gray aka
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Starting point is 00:09:44 Hey, Vance! Okay, shout out to Steaming Chuck on the Discord for that. One of my favorite karaoke jams. So thank you for putting in the sign. I was going to say shout out to Steaming Chuck and shout out to Miles Gray for the vocal performance
Starting point is 00:10:00 of A Lifetime. That was beautiful. The second verse, too, you can hear him singing to a cow. He's like, I love you since I knew ya. I wouldn't talk down to ya. Because it's a sofa. I wouldn't talk down to a sofa.
Starting point is 00:10:16 You never talked down to a sofa? No, no. Is it just 2Web 1.0? Or did you guys already talk about this? Remember one of the earliest viral videos was those like fucking six dudes like humping that ottoman in the couch yeah yeah yeah
Starting point is 00:10:32 yeah is that not you know I don't know J.D. Vance's face on J.D. Vance like not just like yeah I'm just saying if you want that video if you want a quick viral video I can't believe no one's put his face floating or whatever yeah yeah that video. If you want a quick viral video, I can't believe no one's put his face, a floating PNG or whatever. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:47 Yeah. I'm just surprised. That's all. Ottoman humpers. Yeah, he's probably going to hit them with like a cease and desist, like the way things are going because he's only knows how to make things worse for himself. Super producer Justin did bring it. Yeah, I knew it. Yeah, I could feel it in the
Starting point is 00:11:03 ether. We got too much content to make without that having come up. Of course. No, I knew it. I could feel it in the ether. We got too much content to make without that having come up. Of course. No, I get it. I get it. I'm just cut his own good joke. Yeah. Come on, Justin. It's called humility.
Starting point is 00:11:15 Look, we said this is the summer of humility. It's a season of humility. That's right. All right. Andrew, we're going to get to know you a little bit better. Did you even? Oh, no. I didn't even introduce a little bit better i just started talking i got too familiar i got too familiar i'm sorry we're always talking to each other anyways it's like yeah anyways oh yeah anyway oh yeah this guy anyways we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by one of the very faces on Mount Zeitmore, a hilarious and brilliant writer, producer. You know him from the Yo, Is This
Starting point is 00:11:48 Racist podcast. It's Andrew T! Andrew! I give it to ya with much trivia. I like hot takes straight from iHeartMedia. Cool. That was 10 seconds before we started recording. I was like, I think I could pull this one off. That was perfect. before we started recording.
Starting point is 00:12:05 I was like, I think I could pull this one off. That was perfect. And you nailed it. Flawless. I could sense the COVID in your voice. The gravel is still there. Y'all, keep it safe. Mask up.
Starting point is 00:12:16 COVID. This COVID is the realest yet, I feel, for me personally. Wow. Did you go Pax Lovid for kovat no i probably should have i i just was like i'm fine right uh probably i don't know how that works to no one in particular yeah this is fine right hey man who are you talking to huh mostly mostly my dog i was telling these guys off mic my last screen time check-in clocked in it hey andrew your screen time is a little bit up you average 16.5 hours a day last
Starting point is 00:12:54 week that's we're gonna need you to check into some sort of phone rehab yeah two two full union shifts of being on youtube per day. Right. What does that do to your soul? How do you feel? I feel... Oh, we can talk about it because all of my over, under, and search history... And so deep and obscure. I guess I will just say, broadly
Starting point is 00:13:19 speaking, I'm an old man and I finally found... I finally think I get YouTube for me. Oh, yeah. The algorithm has finally been bent to your will. I yes, sort of. Yeah, I like it. 40 hours of nonstop watching. I think it might have an idea of what I'm into. Well, I think what happened was, I just like hated the idea of YouTube stuff. And so when I like don't in like engage with it, YouTube would just keep like suggesting to me, okay, well, the average person who likes quote, unquote, YouTube likes this stuff, which is all like, right wing garbage. So I was like,
Starting point is 00:13:59 Oh, I hate this. I hate this. I hate this. And then i finally watched enough of the internet that like i found people who unironically call themselves youtubers and call the product that they make content and who i don't hate okay so i started watching some of those folks and then it started suggesting me more of that because i assume youtube is internally incentivized who's a creator we like to use the term creator. Exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Who's a creator?
Starting point is 00:14:28 Like who? Who's one of the creators at Kachira? I'm really curious. I think that's going to come up in the underrated and overrated. Oh, okay, okay. My bad, my bad, my bad. We're doing all this now. I think the first one, oh my God, what's his fucking name,
Starting point is 00:14:39 is this is a very, very famous person. It's just new to me. But this guy, Jarvis Johnson. Okay. It's close enough to the circles of people who have been on Daily Zeitgeist, have been on his show before. But he is just a fucking YouTuber. Talks to the camera, hot takes, knows everything about YouTube. But he's mixed.
Starting point is 00:15:01 And he is, by virtue of not being white i feel like has at least like takes that i can understand yeah and i'm just like oh this is like much better this is what i assume people like who just watch like fucking mr beast or whatever without thinking about it like get out of it anyway sure i was just i was like okay and then once I started on that train, the algorithm was like, okay, he finally has engaged with YouTube without. They're like, hit him with it. Yeah. Yeah. So I've just been hit with it.
Starting point is 00:15:32 Like, you know, and it's good. I, you know, I'm glad. I'm glad I figured out a piece of this like ecosystem that I can stand. But yeah, that's how, that's how sick I was. YouTube videos. That's how sick I was youtube video that's how sick i was and am youtube videos i feel like the second so i went to his twitter and he's got like some something going on with cody co like yeah you know and it's just immediately like there's a beef with somebody who i'm not familiar with.
Starting point is 00:16:06 It is all internal. It is all part of this, like, ecosystem that I don't know. It is interesting because it's like, I don't know any of the people he's talking about, except for, like, the most famous breakthrough to the household name-ish people. And I'm not gonna learn, probably, but it is like, I'm like, okay, this guy at least has the right opinions on the basic social things. So I'm like, okay, I can engage with this person. Yeah. It's not going to suddenly turn into like, yeah, some weird genocide apology or something. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:34 Yeah. Exactly. We were in Boston staying with some friends last week and their kids are like from say eight up through like eighth grade. they their mom was like they live in la they've probably seen like some famous people do you guys want to like ask them all people you were like oh yeah we saw tom cruise and they were like oh my god that's so cool did you see mr beast and then like asked us if we'd see mr beast like five more more times after we'd said no. They're like, but what about Mr. Beast? Yeah, like an actual famous person. Oh, so you haven't seen a famous person. Interesting. Interesting. You've seen Elon Musk. All right. We're going to get to know you a little
Starting point is 00:17:16 bit better in a moment. First, a couple of things that we're talking about in today's episode. Kamala now leads Trump in the national polls. Trump continues to step. He's finding his footing. He's finding his footing. We'll see. And then the Veep Stakes is... Should be announced today. I mean, people probably know by the time you're listening to this who the Veep is.
Starting point is 00:17:38 But there's been a bit of a controversy around the leading candidate, Josh Shapiro. And the mainstream media always talks about it as like due to pressure from progressive wing of the Democratic Party. He's got some got some doubters, but they're very vague about why that is, where that pressure comes from. In some cases, in some cases, they're just like the why that is, where that pressure comes from. In some cases, they're just like, the left wing is bad and scary and people will be scared. Anyways, we'll talk about that. We'll talk about the market correction that is happening around AI might be upon us. We've been talking about this for a while, that a lot of the stock market is puffed up on AI hype. And what they think AI does doesn't seem to be in line with reality. The stock market is puffed up on like AI hype and the,
Starting point is 00:18:25 what they think AI does doesn't seem to be in line with reality and whether there would be a market correction. The stock market is taking a shit. And at least one of the narratives that's being spun around that particular shit is that they have lost patience with AI. So where's my money says the shareholders lost patience with AI. Where's my money, says the shareholders. Right. Poor AI.
Starting point is 00:18:50 I know. It's like, he's just having a tough one, but you know. We've all been on that line before. Yeah. Exactly. You know what that's like. You're like, oh, we're talking about practice. You know?
Starting point is 00:18:59 They're always on fair to AI. That's what AI is. Yeah. All of that. Plenty more. But first, Andrew, we do like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history?
Starting point is 00:19:10 My search history, again, fever dream for the last two weeks. Although, you know, I don't think I've had a fever. Anyway, my search history is, did they make that Korean sharpshooter into a Fortnite skin? Which seems like the most obvious money on the table thing I've ever...
Starting point is 00:19:31 And they did not. Nor did they... You're giving away so many billion dollar ideas, right? I know. Nor did they do that Turkish dude. Dude, that's the one who... He was so... Someone was saying...
Starting point is 00:19:43 He was explaining. He's like, I like to use both eyes open so i don't like that kind of stuff and then a lot of people like that's how like military people talk like about shooting people like that sort of like yeah i mean i don't know if that's a direct line but they're like that's that's like the kind of training you get when you're using like arms for hurting but yeah but i think that was also part of like the hyperbolic excitement around the guy who had his hand in his pocket while winning a silver medal yeah people were trying to like hate on it and they were like this is actually a very normal
Starting point is 00:20:17 way to aim and there are some people who aim that way it's just very uncommon but everything they said still made me be like this guy's kind of cool like that's kind of impressive right i like i i liked that dude he did as of this morning just before we logged in tweet very earnest fanboy stuff to elon musk that i think if you if you rewind and just even look at him, if you showed that image to someone and just like, yes or no, this guy loves Elon Musk, before you knew what was going on. What's the over-under that this guy wants to drive a Tesla?
Starting point is 00:20:54 Yeah, the answer is, of course. So, he's just regressing to the obvious mean he presented. Yes, dude. Look, we contain multitudes. That's right. That's what I'm saying. Wait, look. We contain multitudes. That's right. That's what I'm saying, though. He doesn't contain multitudes. That guy, he's just nailed on what he is.
Starting point is 00:21:12 The cun guy who looks like that and acts like that. Of course that guy loves Elon Musk. Yeah. The guy who got stuck on his dick while pole vaulting actually just came out as big Trump supporter. So that sucks. What is something you think is underrated, Andrew? Underrated.
Starting point is 00:21:33 Okay, this was my other fever dream in COVID. I genuinely started outlining this as an essay that I think I'm not going to do. So Silicon Valley, I'm sure you guys have covered it in some level, but there's been a broad spectrum of like failed or failing AI wearables. Yeah, right. They're like Humane Pin and this new thing called Friend. That's like the little speaker you wear on your neck, right? Yeah, my friend called it the AI amulet.
Starting point is 00:22:02 And I'm like, yeah, that's basically what it is. And I think my, like, thesis, my quarter-baked thesis is that, like, Silicon Valley, because it has been emptied of anyone normal or middle class, lower middle class, there is not enough, like, street social pressure to have these people realize that they are like unpopular dorks right the reason an ai amulet seems like a good business idea to a silicon valley person is because they live in a bubble where conspicuously participating in silicon valley shit is cool right right and they don't realize that humanity does not agree with them anymore yeah and so like yeah so underrated as bullying dorks for their own good because they have no like like there's no like actual focus group more real than like a bunch of fucking teenagers on the corner and if someone had like if there were normal pockets of normal people in san francisco or and palo alto if you walked around
Starting point is 00:23:12 with an apple vision pro your industrial designers would quickly realize oh this is not going to work as a consumer product you know or a cyber truck or any of it right yeah but they don't have it i think the mark like really cheap market, wear your new wearable tech to a public high school when it gets out at 3 p.m. Yeah. Yeah. Stand outside and just hear the kind of flaming you get from. And an actual public high school.
Starting point is 00:23:38 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Palo Alto High. No, no, no. A public high school where their property tax is less than whatever number would make a normal high school.
Starting point is 00:23:48 Sure, sure, sure. Yeah, yeah, exactly. But I think, yeah, it's true. There is, like, so many of the ideas are like, this only sounds good to, like, y'all. Yeah. Like, you're not, and the whole thing is like, what problem are you solving with this? Because it's not like, I wish Star Trek was real. That's my
Starting point is 00:24:05 problem that i need solving like which i get that part but aside from that that's not the kind of thing where suddenly it's like you get that kind of ubiquity where it's like well now everyone needs the ai and yeah well or like like i mean the problem doesn't have to be a technical problem you know it can be i'm a fucking wristwatch guy the problem can just be i want a piece of jewelry that shows that i'm part of this group they just don't realize their group is not cool and their group was cool for like you know whatever a small window from like 2011 maybe for like a year because it's like oh you can be rich and you're not, you're not, it's not obvious to everyone that you're evil yet. Right.
Starting point is 00:24:48 We actually wrote don't be evil on our letterhead. So that worked. Yeah. As long as that worked for people, but it doesn't work anymore and they don't realize it. But then they all got so rich from that, that they were able to just expel literally everybody else from the city in which they live so now they're just all by themselves being impressed by each other and while doing things that believe you get your ass kicked for doing something like that you're in cincinnati ohio i mean i know enough people in the bay that are are very sufficiently outraged
Starting point is 00:25:23 enough by tech people so like yeah yall, we're counting on you. Really make, go harder on them. Go harder on them. Let them know. Just normal roast. Just, you know, you don't have to beat anyone's ass. You don't have to not beat anyone's ass. But you don't have to beat anyone's ass. Or just say, oh, so you're a tough guy, huh? And that's it. Just say that
Starting point is 00:25:40 and let it keep it moving. I'll say you're tough. What? What? And then they'll be thinking about that all day. Anyway, AI wearables. I'll say you tell them. What? What? And then they'll be thinking about that all day. Anyway, AI wearables. I watched, I have so many images saved for a, again, like a sub stack that I'll never write
Starting point is 00:25:53 of people wearing Apple Vision Pros. I did see somebody with the glass, again, glasses that are like the camera glasses. Like glasses
Starting point is 00:26:04 with the camera on it and they were like bragging about how good the quality of the video is so for what though like what do you what do you surreptitiously videoing exactly you know it's better because then no one knows i'm taking video pretty cool i'm just a guy with sunglasses at a at a volleyball practice that's all yeah yeah it's like do you guys just like spend 10 minutes thinking about the like worst use case of this before you fucking release it and spend nope nope i'm gonna stop you right there nope we do not and 10 minutes stop talking yeah like honestly like, every tech company just needs one hater. They don't have any haters.
Starting point is 00:26:49 And, like, just one... Listen, I don't want to be Silicon Valley's hater, but someone needs to be the Silicon Valley. Can you imagine from this, they're like, Andrew, we'd love for you
Starting point is 00:26:59 to come up to Palo Alto. Right. We'd love to show you sort of, like, the new line of products we're thinking about and just fucking rip our heads off, dude. We'd love to show you sort of like the new line of products we're thinking about and just rip our heads off, dude. It's much, it's much cheaper than sending the street teams that we usually do out to, uh, Louisville, Kentucky to get made fun of.
Starting point is 00:27:14 Truly like, like someone there, there just needs to be like a consumer focus group company said, this is, this is my actual billion dollar idea that someone else could take in the Bay Area. Which is like, just like your focus group is just like 20 diverse teens from lower middle class backgrounds. Right. Yeah. Right. Not people who like, it's like price isn't a barrier. Like the people they talk to, price isn't a barrier to like 99% of the products that they're hawking versus other people are like first of all do i even want to aspire to that no or but even even if they're not representative
Starting point is 00:27:50 what they can do is find your vulnerability quickly right right right like right oh so these they call these pedo goggles these camera glasses okay oh if i saw someone wearing these i would call the police i would like yeah make sure, make sure I know why my high school is weird. They're weird. Okay. Good to know. Good to know. I think like what the,
Starting point is 00:28:12 other than the smartphone, what have been the successful products out of like, that have like broken through to the mainstream that you like see on a regular basis out of Silicon Valley? The only thing I can think of is those hoverboards, but like, are those even out of Silicon Valley. The only thing I can think of is those hoverboards. But are those even out of Silicon Valley? Those are everywhere. Those are out of Shenzhen, China.
Starting point is 00:28:32 I'm pretty sure. Because that's like a gyroscope. Right. They're just taking the lithium batteries. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Aside from making little stabilizing gimbal arms for cell phones that's like something i always see people hawking online i feel like honestly i feel like the tablet was like the last thing that was new and everyone's like oh shit yeah tablet that's not cool to walk around in any way no or take photos of at a
Starting point is 00:29:01 sporting event yeah no i would say Apple Watch kind of. Even that one is mainly known for being a gift people return. Yeah. Is it? That's what I'm worried about. It's like,
Starting point is 00:29:18 there's no reason a kid needs an Apple Watch. The people who need Apple Watch are the people who need their fucking steps measured and heart rate. I was saying my niece got an Apple Watch so they didn't have to get her a phone. Right.
Starting point is 00:29:36 And so that way, there is a way. I was saying it looks like the 2020s version of when a kid got a pager back in the day. Which is sort of like, yeah, You really can't do much dirt on this thing, but at least we can talk to you. Nokia bricks. Those are coming back in a big way with the kids.
Starting point is 00:29:53 I've been on my barely surviving constitutionals, evening constitutionals. I switched back to wired headphones. Oh, yeah? Which ones? What do you got just a regular ass because i just have an iphone so just the ones that came with your phone that came
Starting point is 00:30:10 with the phone well when you're marathon and like that the battery can't keep up with your lifestyle andrew 16 hours on the fucking block no bro i know that you understand yeah understand how my phone battery doesn't exist anymore. It's just a suggestion. It's just been powered all the way up and down. 30? Yeah. I don't know what that means. What's something you think is overrated, Andrew?
Starting point is 00:30:37 Overrated, once again, format purity. Okay. As someone who is like, okay found some youtube i like or like i mean it's just like this kind of thing like i i've been like thinking about this for so long but like like the people who like i'm a fan of youtube or like like you know the prior version of this was like streaming like oh streaming is materially different netflix is different than fucking broadcast tv and it's the thing that like i remember when i worked at comedy central i worked in the digital department you know years and years and years ago before netflix was a huge thing
Starting point is 00:31:18 and i remember all of those people being like one day we're gonna run this place the whole company is going to be internet and like they're like worship of like the fiber optic cable or the different fiber optic cable i was like this is fucking crazy like you guys don't know shit about like developing tv shows right oh i remember you saying that i'm they're just going to push you out once the medium is lucrative enough. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I think to me it's the same thing that I was like, I don't like YouTube. I do like some YouTube.
Starting point is 00:31:55 This was my same revelation. It doesn't mean anything. It's just like... Content is content, is what you're saying i get it yeah i feel you man tense attack man exactly but also i will say this this was my like first like like realization that like i the the cool thing of being like like gen z millennials
Starting point is 00:32:21 like just like and ironically using marketing speak to like describe themselves used to bum me out so much and now i'm like yeah we all make content guys yeah creators yeah get in on this synergy man oh god so you're saying like format purity being like oh i only write for tv yeah yeah Yeah. I don't care for YouTube. I love vinyl. I only like music on vinyl. It's really all the same. You know, and it's
Starting point is 00:32:54 all content. Your heart is opening. I like to see that. Yeah. And again, that may be because of cardiovascular damage, but we'll find out. We will find out and report back. All right. Let's take a quick break.
Starting point is 00:33:08 We'll come back and we'll talk about some news. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradente. And I'm Jumae Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline, a new podcast from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. When you're just starting out in your career, you have a lot of questions like, how do I speak up when I'm feeling overwhelmed? Or can I negotiate a higher salary if this is my first real job? Girl, yes. Each week, we answer your unfiltered work questions. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know
Starting point is 00:33:45 the answer, we bring in experts who do, like resume specialist Morgan Santer. The only difference between the person who doesn't get the job and the person who gets the job is usually who applies. Yeah, I think a lot about that quote. What is it like you miss 100% of the shots you never take? Yeah, rejection is scary, but it's better than you rejecting yourself. Together, we'll share what it really takes to thrive in the early years of your career without sacrificing your sanity or sleep. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, Dancing
Starting point is 00:34:23 for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and LA-based Shekinah Church, an alleged cult that has impacted members for over two decades. Jessica and I will delve into the hidden truths between high control groups and interview dancers, church members, and others whose lives and careers have been impacted, just like mine. Through powerful,
Starting point is 00:34:54 in-depth interviews with former members and new chilling firsthand accounts, the series will illuminate untold and extremely necessary perspectives. Forgive Me For I Have Followed will be more than an exploration. It's a vital revelation aimed at ensuring these types of abuses never happen again. Listen to Forgive Me For I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese.
Starting point is 00:35:32 I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really near them boys. I just come here to play basketball every single day, and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is unapologetically black. I love her. What exactly ignited this fire?
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Starting point is 00:36:15 The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. And we're back. We're back. And and all right let's check in with the polls because they are in no way indicative of what's going to happen in the election but they are indicative of which side is freaking out and we we got some we got some intel yeah yeah she's uh up now uh about three points i believe kamala harris yes yes yes she's uh uh the the polls nationally have swung uh her way 46 points to 43 points at the beginning of january when it was biden trump trump had a four point lead over biden so that's uh pretty substantial like it a lot of people are like, oh, it pretty much her entry into the race has negated like all the negatives that Biden had or lack of enthusiasm. So in a way, like a lot of the map is looks different. More states are in play than previously believed.
Starting point is 00:37:28 believed. So yeah, a lot of confidence for Democrats. For Republicans, mainly Trump, a lot of freaking out. Trump is like, these polls are fake. Okay, dude. Then he's like, he chickened out of like debating her. And he's like, was also using logic. He's like, well, I lead in the polls. So why should I even have to debate? It's like, I'm sorry. When was that a condition of having a debate based on who was up or down in the polls, but okay. Even people on truth social were calling him a coward for trying to avoid this debate with Kamala Harris, which is a bit weird for them. I don't know if that's like also just people like having a, you know, coordinated troll effort on truth social, but like a hashtag was trending about like Trump's a coward. And I'm like, troll effort on truth social but like a hashtag was trending about like trump's a coward and i'm like that can't be their people then he had a rally in atlanta over the weekend complained that
Starting point is 00:38:10 i could have had a bigger crowd as kamala but the school organizers they're trying to shut us down like a bunch of communists like he had this whole thing about how they could have had more people in there like he was really fucking kept talking about how many more people could have been in this arena um and also like he added a new bit of like flair to the rally in the form of like these like gas air cannons that like blew up on the side of the runway like it was some kind of fucking wrestlemania entrance i think this is clear he's like we need better vibes do we have making this dad what do we have? Amber Rose? Oh, boy. All right. Get the air cannons.
Starting point is 00:38:47 So it looks like something is fucking excited. Exciting about this, you know, these appearances. But he continues now to just like still slur his way through speeches. I will play some clips from this Atlanta rally because, you know, our man is still having trouble with reading and words. It was wild. Like we talked about this last week, but it was wild how quickly when Biden dropped out,
Starting point is 00:39:11 he was like, I don't have a cognitive defect. You do. Like he immediately got so insecure about that. He was also like, Biden wasn't too old to run. And you're like, sir. Yeah. Yo, bro, shut up. Seems okay to me.
Starting point is 00:39:25 Another 80-year-old man. As far as Trump slurs at the rally, this is by far the most charitable. The best version. Yeah, exactly. They aren't. They're just speech. Best case scenario. But yeah, this is one where he does this thing, though, too, where it's like half you're old,
Starting point is 00:39:40 but also half so insecure that when he fucks up up mid-sentence he completely pivots to try and make another point rather than be like oh sorry like correcting anyway here's an example of this when he says national wrecking anyway you'll hear it appreciate it together we will stop kamala harris's nation wrecking i'll tell you what when you see what she's done to our nation she's wrecking our nation the radicalism will take back our country from the worst administration in American history. Uh-huh. Nation wrecked. Yeah, I'll tell you what.
Starting point is 00:40:13 Yeah, I'll tell you what. She is wrecking. That didn't happen. You did. Yeah, what? Who do you think you are? He's so proud of himself on the second take. Wrecking.
Starting point is 00:40:22 Yeah, yeah. I'll tell you what. Yeah, yeah. Wreck wrecking i've got an air wrecking here's the other thing he also goes in on her saying something about violent marbs or mobs i don't know you decide should not stop she said she was endorsing to fund the place and the police and she said violent And she said, violent mobs. Let the violent mobs keep going. Okay, he needed another stab at that one.
Starting point is 00:40:51 Yeah. It's such a stark contrast. Even from that rally that Kamala Harris had, it was like, wow, man. They're saying, there's real political messaging in that speech. It was like, they got the mobs. I mean the mobs. I mean, the mobs and they wanted to fund the place up in this place. I mean, police just, uh,
Starting point is 00:41:11 yeah. So, uh, and then also there was like this moment too, where Kyle Rittenhouse was like, I can't support Donald Trump anymore. Cause he's not about the second amendment. And then very quickly he like had a mea culpa and was like,
Starting point is 00:41:22 I'm, uh, I got some bad advice from people obviously i'm going to be voting for trump because they came for his ass when he tweeted that so there's a lot a lot of unsure unsureness uh happening but you know we'll see because there's a there's a there's a real good chance that a lot of the enthusiasm could be just erased with the wrong vp pick at least from my perspective yeah i think most people but yeah the vp pick is really the next like i said that's the final not one of the final things to put the ticket together where either people go
Starting point is 00:41:57 or yeah yeah so it's down i will just say like it it does make it clearer and clearer like how what a weird position the republicans are in and there is a lawnmower just going outside my window just going off so i can't can't even hear it sounds good to me yeah no and that's fine what is it a riding mower it might be a riding mower all right john i John, I can't see it, but I just hear it. All right. What a weird position the Republicans are in, because both parties had this same terrible problem and that their candidates are like way too old and kind of losing it. And the Democrats had it worse. And then like one one of them fixes the problem.
Starting point is 00:42:43 It's just like really. and like all their talking points were drawing attention to that it's just a weird i i don't know i guess everybody's like pointed this out already but it is just i don't know like they both have the exact same horrible problem happening and one of them just magically fixes it and he obviously can't fix it so i mean nikki haley was like when i remember in the primary she's like the party that's gonna win is the one that ditches their elderly person which you know and now that you look at you're like oh well yeah yeah i may have had i know you were saying that in the process of a primary to be like get rid of trump and that's how we beat them but now now it really does feel like, Oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:25 Just whoever gets real about like the leadership, it will help in terms of support, but we'll see. It's November. They were just so certain it was not going to happen. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:37 And pretty rightfully, I like the fact that it happened at all. It was like fucking amazing. It is really amazing. And yeah, they, I think it's really hard for them to imagine Trump doing it because it could never possibly ever happen. Just trying to imagine him being like, I'm going to do what's best for the country makes you laugh.
Starting point is 00:44:01 If he does that, it will be from a jet like en route to moscow he's like and i'm doing the best thing which is i'll never come back because it's so crooked there and i'm now kicking it with steven seagal one of the coolest guys ever so i know you tell us like if he did it he for sure would then defer to or like like nominate fucking don jr right oh yeah yeah yeah would you think that would be incredible could you imagine that debate you know how much fucking blow that guy would probably be doing just to be like i gotta be confident out there man for the smallest appearance yeah mar-a-lago interview with j Vance before JD Vance was like a VP oh man
Starting point is 00:44:48 you need to do all of your cocaine the VP race it looks like it's down to Shapiro Waltz and Kelly there was some speculation where Mark Kelly tweeted something and deleted it I didn't read the headline oh my god maybe it has something to do with him being picked whatever
Starting point is 00:45:03 I think there seems to be a lot of talk about who it should be and right now i'm seeing more about who it shouldn't be yeah yeah which is josh shapiro and there are a few things happened at towards the end of last week there was a woman's group that's like advocates for safer workplaces like urged kamala harris to reconsider reconsider like picking Josh Shapiro because of the way he handled a sexual harassment case, like within his own office and like paying this woman like $295,000 settlement from like public funds. And people were like, are you kind of like backing up like your, your homie that was perpetrating this stuff, which wasn't a great look. The UAW, the United Auto Workers, they said, we'd rather not have Shapiro either. They said, uh, Kentucky governor, Andy Beshear and Minnesota governor, Tim Waltz, those were the top choices for the union. They pointed at, uh, one of the big things was that Governor Shapiro is like big on school vouchers.
Starting point is 00:46:12 And, you know, like Sean Fain was like public education has been under attack for like from Republican administrations forever. Like having somebody who's like less in on public education is a no for us, dog. Bernie Sanders and other unions would like Tim Waltz as well for his like working class cred. You know, like Waltz, like join the auto workers on a picket line. People just like that. But it's interesting to see that like the establishment pick seems to be Shapiro or at least a lot of public pundits, both like the, you know,
Starting point is 00:46:37 center right and sender center, right. Ish like Republicans that now speak on places like MSNBC are also being like, obviously the person it should be is Josh Shapiro. And using the same sort of debunked logic we talked about last week, which is like, well, he's from Pennsylvania. You need Pennsylvania to win.
Starting point is 00:46:57 And because they like him in Pennsylvania, he can win Pennsylvania. And a lot of research shows that the VP pick has really very little impact on something. That logic really isn't borne out in the data. But here we are. I saw a stat probably on Twitter somewhere that was like part of his big approval rating is because
Starting point is 00:47:18 MAGA people love him. He has approval from a third of MAGA voters. And it's like hey guys those people are not going to vote for caballeros right like yeah pretty sure that's not going to happen even it's like this whole with him yeah right and it's the same way we have these other sort of purple states where like you'll have like a democrat win the governor the governor's mansion and then down ballot. They're like,
Starting point is 00:47:45 yeah, but Republicans for other stuff. Yeah. You know, like where they're like between the two, I can make this choice or whatever, but the, this, the veep stakes,
Starting point is 00:47:53 it's very touch and go. I mean, I think it feels like you're going to, you're going to gain more or there'll be less hand wringing and less fracturing. If you go with someone that isn't Shapiro, when you already have people that are part of the coalition of voters democrats are courting like coming out and being like explicit and be like maybe not him maybe not him yeah like there was another thing like people were pointing out like when he was in college he wrote this like
Starting point is 00:48:18 paper talking about palestinians like being unable to like self-govern very, very fucking backwards take on Palestinian people. His office was like, he was 21 and writing that also don't ask him to comment on what is happening there now, but he is different. Right. He is a different age now. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:37 And that is indisputable. He did compare student protesters to the KKK, but other than that, it seems to be,, seems to have both feet on the ground there. Yeah, yeah. He does seem to. So according to odds makers who are true overlords can take bets on this. They said that he was like way out in front last Wednesday. due to the pressure from some of the progressive wings of the party,
Starting point is 00:49:09 Tim Waltz has been the betting benefactor of that push, going from plus 1,400 at UK Bookmaker, bet 365, to plus 275 on Sunday. So in a matter of three days, he became pretty close with Shapiro fairly rapidly. I feel like gamblers are pretty good at like getting inside information on shit so that's the one thing that's giving me hope the history of the democratic party like tacking towards the center is the thing that is not giving me hope yeah the election market though is such or like like the election choices market though, is such a... Or, like, the election choices market. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:48 It is wild that this is... Because it's, like, why... It's not like, you know, there's, like, a... Like a players association or something. Like, what is to stop someone from the Kamala Harris administration to just put a bunch of money into this market because they know the answer? Right. Oh, right, right, right. Someone's like i was like yeah like we're seeing some betting irregularities around the vp pick
Starting point is 00:50:10 like why wouldn't like you this just feels like whoever it is including kamla herself just yeah clean up would seem odd because it's not something that's i guess you know like an athletic competition seemingly up to chance or whoever the best performer is. There's zero chance involved here. Who knows what this person is thinking, except for maybe 40 people who know what she's thinking and maybe tell people. But like, it's interesting to see. It would be amazing if Kamala was just in it for the action. The whole.
Starting point is 00:50:42 It's just like trying to get an edge on the betting markets just like some dejounte murray shit yeah but the other thing that's uh like seeing like the like sort of center-right punditry talk about it like they've they've said again they're like one of her vulnerabilities like this is obviously coming from a center right perspective quote is the multitude of leftist positions she foolishly took in the 2019 campaign a shapiro selection unambiguously moves the ticket to the center then they all go on it's like and if harris pulls back from shapiro after the campaign against him from the left it will look weak uh-huh it's yeah it's the standard democrat and mainstream media narrative that the democrats have to it's the same thing that every time what's his name was
Starting point is 00:51:35 writing about that saying that they should nominate mitt romney it's like just be republicans but say you're democrats how could that ever backfire right right right yeah i mean i will say like that though was also the train of thought that was like stick with biden stick with biden and i'm wondering if the very short term like hey not doing what these dummies always suggest it seems to have worked yes right might finally sink in. Yeah, I mean, in a way, it's like, we thought this was an L going into it, but do we keep going against what accepted wisdom
Starting point is 00:52:12 is that tends to be wrong? Do you guys want to try to win? Nah. I'm just fucking around here. Call me crazy. Maybe we should try to win this election this time. I'm just blue-skying it here. Come on Hey give me some of whatever Andrew's smoking
Starting point is 00:52:29 I don't know do we want to win At least try Let's try let's just try I don't know Miles who am I Do we want to win You're some guy who's all fucked up off of whatever Andrew's smoking This guy's high as a kite You're some guy who's all fucked up off of whatever Andrew's smoking.
Starting point is 00:52:48 This guy's high as a kite. All right. Let's take a quick break and we'll come back. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and LA-based Shekinah Church, an alleged cult that has impacted members for over two decades. Jessica and I will delve into the hidden truths between high control groups and interview dancers,
Starting point is 00:53:28 church members, and others whose lives and careers have been impacted, just like mine. Through powerful, in-depth interviews with former members and new, chilling firsthand accounts, the series will illuminate untold and extremely necessary perspectives. Forgive Me For I Have Followed will be more than an exploration. It's a vital revelation aimed at ensuring these types of abuses never happen again. Listen to Forgive Me For I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradente.
Starting point is 00:54:00 And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline, a new podcast from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. When you're just starting out in your career, you have a lot of questions like, how do I speak up when I'm feeling overwhelmed? Or can I negotiate a higher salary if this is my first real job? Girl, yes. Each week, we answer your unfiltered work questions. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in experts who do,
Starting point is 00:54:30 like resume specialist Morgan Saner. The only difference between the person who doesn't get the job and the person who gets the job is usually who applies. Yeah, I think a lot about that quote. What is it, like, you miss 100% of the shots you never take? Yeah, rejection is scary, but it's better than you rejecting yourself. Together, we'll share what it really takes to thrive in the early years of your career. Without sacrificing your sanity or sleep.
Starting point is 00:54:54 Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is Season 4 of Naked Sports where we live at the intersection of sports and culture up first I explore the making of a rivalry Caitlin Clark versus Angel Reese I know I'll go down in history people are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game every great player needs a foil I ain't really near them boys I just come here to play basketball every single day and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch.
Starting point is 00:55:32 She is unapologetically Black. I love her. What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game? And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better. This new season will cover all things sports and culture.
Starting point is 00:55:51 Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. And we're back. We're back. And we've been talking for a while to the delight of our audience. Now, some of our audience are like,
Starting point is 00:56:16 we get it. AI is bullshit. Stop talking about this. But we have been talking for a while about how much of the mainstream media narrative around AI is kind of out of line with reality, how this idea of the artificial general intelligence that they are promising that I think the theory that they want us to keep in mind that they might have in mind is just like yeah it's like a person brain you stick in a washing machine and now your washing machine is so fucking smart bro yeah oh whoa maybe a little less detergent on this one is this cotton okay i know how to handle this yeah exactly i don't mind having a conversation with it you never have to talk to people again you just have a washing
Starting point is 00:57:00 machine that you're in love with anyways Anyways, it's all just a sophisticated version of the autocomplete function when you're texting is basically what they're working with in the AGI. We had AI experts on. They were like, this is all bullshit. It's not going to get you to a place where it's all just marketing. But they said it will. It's like, yeah, so they can inflate the value of their companies.
Starting point is 00:57:31 Right. And I'm like, oh, yeah, yeah. Is this the tipping point that Wall Street kind of starts to realize that Silicon Valley are just liars? I can't imagine because it would lose so many of them so much money to realize that. Like, I feel like they're seeing the same shit we are. But yeah, so like the one side is like people who are actual experts on how these AGI work are like, it's not what they claim it is. The other thing is like when you talk to people who pay attention to the stock market, they're like a lot of value is tied up in agi and like ai being what they say it is and so it was like on the one hand you're like something has to give on the other
Starting point is 00:58:11 hand you're like or not because they've been able to just like be heads down and maintain their like high stock market value throughout an entire pandemic, you know, like without really letting any of the reality in, in a lot of cases. So anyways, stock markets around the world are tumbling. And one of the narratives that's coming up in line with this fall is that people are losing patience with AI and AI companies. When are you going to be able to do the thing that you claim this could do? Just a little bit longer, dude. I just need $4 billion a quarter.
Starting point is 00:58:57 Just a tiny 4BQ. Okay, when do you turn the $4 billion into any money? Bro, any minute now be patient dude it's cooking man just like don't even invest if you don't want to fucking be part of the future dog like i'm sick of this dude you can be poor be poor you can be a brokey dude i i in my fever dream i did ask Meta AI how I could short AI stocks. And you would be surprised at how little it wants to tell me that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:30 Oh, really? In-depth answers on everything except that. Yeah. I don't know. Hey, find me a way to... Oh, I mean, there's... Oh, financial advice is really tricky. I'm not asking for advice.
Starting point is 00:59:43 I'm asking for a method. advice is really tricky like i'm not asking for advice i'm asking for a method i can tell you which stocks you want to triple down on on ai right now if you are interested in that information but yeah this was like what the sequence of events was basically like that jobs report bad jobs report yeah followed by investors selling off a lot of tech stocks and the, quote, once hot artificial intelligence trade, tech shares were among the worst performers Monday. So yesterday. I do like how this, I mean, surely this has to be among the quickest that like a tech trend has, you know,
Starting point is 01:00:20 because I feel like it took like even like the bullshit ones, like cryptocurrency, like a while like like people to kind of just generally realize this is because this is like still within the like mainstream publicity window like there are ai ads running during the olympics comes for like it's mostly ai yeah yeah and so so like this is like the i guess the rug or the the fucking scales have been lifted during the mainstream pr push which seems much faster than usual yeah usually they're able to get that campaign done and then you can have a coin based super bowl ad and most people still don't realize it's a scam. Right. Whereas I think most people realize AI is a scam
Starting point is 01:01:06 while they're pushing it. I don't know. Maybe not. Do they not? I mean, Wall Street realizes it. No one was making money shorting Coinbase during the Coinbase Super Bowl ad. Right. Which is what is happening with AI.
Starting point is 01:01:25 Yeah. It just seems faster. I'm not saying it wasn't going to get there, but I was like, huh? Is it just, are we just realizing it now? Is AI more half-baked as a grift
Starting point is 01:01:35 than like cryptocurrency was? It's like weird. It's weird that they're like figured it out so soon. Yeah. It's just, yeah. I mean, I think the, one of the big they're, like, figured it out so soon. Yeah. It's just, yeah. I mean, I think one of the big ones was when, like, one of the, like, researchers at Goldman Sachs was like, y'all, this thing ain't fucking doing shit. They're like, it's, like, too much spend, too little benefit.
Starting point is 01:01:57 And I think when, once, like, Wall Street's like, bro, we're used to fucking making money here. Like, we like giving you money because you think we're going to get something back. But the whole name of the game here is shareholder value. And we don't see the value right now. Yeah. But I mean, that's the thing is like, does this trigger like a much larger recession is what's kind of freaky. Like the market correction around AI obviously can have cascading effects. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:25 My bet would be that it won't be the level of complete evaporation that we saw with Bitcoin and all the crypto markets because AI is like that with magic tricks where it can answer a question where you're like, it's back online. It's smart. There are things that AI, because AI is basically just a marketing phrase for things computers do good yeah yeah yeah like any algorithmic thing that a computer does well like i feel like they're going to be able to keep coming back to this well and it will be profitable i think they're just going to lose the term they they the the misstep was in the marketing of ai as yeah and i'm like right it's because it's nothing and it never will be ready but it's not ready not this early yeah and also like i think everything it's also maybe they kind of benefited and got fucked over by what movies how movies sort of inoculated us where we're like ai right
Starting point is 01:03:37 where hayley joel osment is a fake baby who goes around and talks with his robot teddy bear as they solve complex problems damn you know what i mean like there's just like that movie was sad for me like before i had kids i can't imagine watching that now like oh my god like having kids the age of daily i know when that little robot was like at the bottom of the sea like deactivated I remember being like what sociopath would make a robot like that like if you actually made a robot that shaped and acted
Starting point is 01:04:12 like Haley Joel Osment that would be a crime against humanity like an actual crime against humanity doing that in real life yeah so fucked up so stupid wave of the future so and i i do want to caveat this by saying i don't know shit about the stock market uh you know it could be tomorrow they're
Starting point is 01:04:37 like actually none of that was like ai sell off i don't know it's just it does it is a reason to bring back up like it does feel like there is this bubble that is happening. And we at least know experts in AI say, here's what it actually does. It's just an autocomplete. And the companies say, it's this thing. So who knows? I'm not an expert. However, DatNoFact on Twitter, also new to the stock market, but had a good piece of analysis.
Starting point is 01:05:05 They said, hello, I'm new to the stock market, but had a good piece of analysis. They said, hello, I'm new to the stock market. Is it good when the Intel CEO starts praying? And then quoted Pat Gelsinger, who wrote, let your eyes look straight ahead. Fix your gaze directly before you. Give careful thought to the paths for your feet and be steadfast in all your ways. Proverbs 425 to 26. Proverbs 420 something bros. I mean, one thing that has been nice about Twitter is like revealing how many of these alleged like cold calculating Titans of industry are just as superstitious as any other dummy. alleged, like, cold calculating titans of industry are
Starting point is 01:05:45 just as superstitious as any other dummy. Yeah, right, right. They're not seeing the Matrix. It's also a bunch of hand-married bastards. Yeah, they just got lucky. It's like survivor bias. Like, their dumb idea worked out. And, like, thus all of their like, fake magic works,
Starting point is 01:06:01 quote-unquote. Yeah. And they go through the same life cycle of their dumb idea works out just by random chance. They read Ayn Rand. They convince themselves that they're like magical geniuses. And then reality kicks in. They're like, and lo,
Starting point is 01:06:17 I said unto the Lord, please don't let this bubble. Please. We just need enough compute. All of my houses. Yes. All right, Andrew T., what a pleasure having you, as always,
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Starting point is 01:07:03 I don't know. Amazing. Is there a work of media you've been enjoying well yeah again so i've watched so much youtube and i think my favorite one about this ai thing was by a youtuber named angela collier who is i would say medium famous but uh the one i really liked uh that's relevant to today's topics was the malicious optimism of AI-first companies. And she goes on this run about when the CEO of Zoom was like,
Starting point is 01:07:32 we'll be able to have basically robot versions of yourself do your Zoom meetings and do your entire job. Yeah. And this is good for you, the consumer. Really good for you. That's very funny. Yeah. It's like, oh, yeah Really good for you. That's very funny. Yeah. It's like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:46 That's probably... His pitch was like, you can just send the AI version of yourself to meetings and you can go to the beach. Right. And it's like, yeah, that's definitely what your employer is going to be dealing with. That's definitely how it's going to go.
Starting point is 01:08:00 No, no, no. We'll pay you. You go to the beach. As long as your ghost software is working. Yeah, this robot that we own that does your entire job, we'll definitely continue paying you. But also, I'm way late to this, and I hope I haven't said this
Starting point is 01:08:14 previously, but I've been listening non-stop pretty much. I saw the TV glow soundtrack. It's very good. Nice. I like it. I will just say I like the movie. I like this better than the movie. Wow. Amazing. Check. I like it. I will just say, I like the movie. I like this better than the movie. Wow. Amazing.
Starting point is 01:08:27 Check it out, folks. Miles gray. Where can people find you as their work media? You've been enjoying. Uh, yeah, you can find me on Twitter and Instagram at miles of gray.
Starting point is 01:08:38 If you like basketball, like Jack and I do, you can catch us on miles and Jack got mad. Uh, and if you like 90 day fiance, catch me out on four 20 day fiance. Very clever. Uh, and if you like 90 day fiance, catch me out on four 20 day fiance. Very clever. Uh, some things I am like clever,
Starting point is 01:08:52 very fun, very clever, very fun. Thank you very much. Um, one is from at Matthew K beg be, it said, RIP Edgar Allen Poe.
Starting point is 01:09:00 You would have loved watching a beloved children's author, slowly driven to insanity by black mold inside the walls of her castle. was on my short list as well i will yeah dude there's just that picture is so wild like where i'm like is she on some gray garden shit like she's so insulated where like she won't even allow people like um jk your walls do you you just have like the bathtub running all day, every day for years? Is something happening? Are your mirrors like constantly steamed everywhere? Yeah. And then, okay, but still, okay, underscore, but underscore still tweeted Trump in 1993.
Starting point is 01:09:40 I'm very fond of Kermit. We get along well. We go to a lot of the same places. And Marla, she likes Miss Piggy. And they get along tremendously. Trump 2024. It's a pig wearing jewelry. It's disgusting. She hits him. Sometimes very hard.
Starting point is 01:09:56 And he says, thank you, dear. That's crazy. Holy shit. You can find me on twitter at jack underscore o'brien tweet I've been enjoying Michaela at Michielamas
Starting point is 01:10:13 Michielamas M-I-K-K-I-E-L-A-M-A-S tweeted I'd be dead if I was in a quiet place cause I'd be farting oh yeah I saw that one too. Yeah. Hell yeah. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore
Starting point is 01:10:29 O'Brien. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website DailyZeitgeist.com where we post our episodes and our footnotes. We link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode. What was a song that we think you might enjoy? Hey Miles.'s episode what was a song that we think you might enjoy hey miles yeah is there a song that you think people might enjoy
Starting point is 01:10:49 yes i think they're gonna like uh this track by jordana and tv girl called better in the dark it's got like it's got this like breathy sort of you know diy pop kind of vocals but the production feels like if like a rap like boom bap sample producer was like, I need to kind of make like an accessible indie pop track. This is what they would come up with. So I liked the production on it because it's like sample heavy, but the vocals are completely different than, you know, most sample based productions like this that feel kind of more straightforward.
Starting point is 01:11:20 So yeah, Better in the Dark by Jordana TV Girl. Oh shit. The, uh, I saw the glow of the tv is from alex g that's like one of my favorite musicians shout out to alex g and uh yeah did did this filmmaker do the um we're all going to the world's fair yes yeah okay i have not seen yeah but he did the the soundtrack to that as well. Cool. All right. I'm very slow with my Google fingers.
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