The Daily Zeitgeist - Why Billionaires So Horny For Space, Emily In Paris Is Art? 2.4.21

Episode Date: February 4, 2021

In episode 805, Jack and guest host Jamie Loftus are joined by Scam Goddess Laci Mosley to discuss covid cases dropping, the Trump administration and Fox News, the Lincoln Project co-founder being acc...used of harassment, Jeff Bezos stepping down as Amazon CEO, billionaires obsessed with space, Golden Globes nominees, and more!FOOTNOTES: Nationwide Covid-19 Metrics Bonus episode: Inside the craziest meeting of the Trump presidency Sean Hannity is the face of the post-Trump identity crisis at Fox News 21 Men Accuse Lincoln Project Co-Founder of Online Harassment Jeff Bezos to Step Down as Amazon CEO; Andy Jassy to Take Over How Amazon Wins: By Steamrolling Rivals and Partners Empire-builder Bezos looks beyond Amazon Musk, Branson and Bezos: Why are three billionaires determined to go to space – and what’s the danger to planet Earth? The Elysium effect: The coming backlash to the billionaire 'NewSpace' revolution Billionaires Bicker Over Space Toys Golden Globes 2021: A Full List of Nominees WATCH: Jazmine Sullivan - Girl Like Me (Audio) ft. H.E.R. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:57 And I'm thrilled to be joined by today's special guest co-host, Lil Zam herself, Jamie Lofton! A.K.A. Emily and Paris Golden Globe today's special guest co-host lil zam herself jamie lofton aka emily and perry golden globe nominee wow indeed wow good for her oh we're we're talking snubs flubs and uh listen as long as we as long as i i didn't I scanned the list and I didn't see a Forky in sight. So I'm, I'm fucking chill. Well, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat.
Starting point is 00:03:31 This is a fucking powerhouse of a show. The hilarious, the talented, one of the very faces on Mount Zite Moore, Lacey Mosley. Hey, what's poppin'? Oh, I'm so happy to be here. I feel like I haven't been here in a minute. I'm so good to have you here. Yes. Welcome, welcome.
Starting point is 00:03:50 Good to see y'all. Good to be seen and not be viewed as the old Blacksie. You get it? Lacey, what's new with you? Oh my gosh, what's new with you oh my gosh what is new with me i've been uh it's so funny to me because people in hollywood and celebrities and stuff will be like guys we all need to be staying at home but then like we're all like fully back at work um so i've been shooting this entire time now i get tested like look my nose is getting tested like it's doing pornos
Starting point is 00:04:25 it's getting tested every day twice a day um at this point i don't even feel anything in there anymore it's just like yeah do it do it to me and they're like we already did it i'm like okay like i remember when i first started getting them done it was just like full like nefertiti like they were scrambling my brain now i just don't feel it anymore maybe i'm numb so yeah damn that's good that they're like they're testing you as much as they need to though i'm always so scared that like that like sets that aren't doing it right that's good yeah no everyone's on a testing schedule and then you work in your one little bubble you don't so you don't see or talk to anybody else on set who's not in that bubble wild cool uh netflix just got sued for having not great set safety i think it was more in the early days of the pandemic yeah
Starting point is 00:05:13 but there are still sets like that where they're just like yeah yeah we tested yeah yeah like i won't say the name of this set but there's a set that's like fully up and running it's a huge show you would know it and i know people who work on it and they told me that two of the leads well okay so one of the leads is like they're like a married couple i can't say more than that because they don't give away and one of the leads was like paris the two leads emily and paris the city they look very they got an alt they were like hey i saw your instagram and you were fully at a party and then someone else on the crew was like yeah i saw that saw your Instagram and you were fully at a party. And then someone else on the crew was like, yeah, I saw that Instagram post, too.
Starting point is 00:05:49 And it made me so upset. And then that person said to the second person was like, what the fuck, man? You was just in Vegas yesterday. Don't talk about me. And then it just started. Everyone just started snitching on each other. God. Wow.
Starting point is 00:06:02 Just a circle. That is, what a. I saw you making out with the staff of applebee's on tuesday i mean who among us though right um right who could who could resist yeah i mean there's so many ways that uh the this pandemic is not great at co-existing with capitalism likes it i heard from one actor that they went in for a test and it was like short notice they i think they were a replacement for somebody else and so they needed the test to be negative and so they like barely grazed the outside of their nostrils to when they were testing them because they just oh my god they couldn't oh well just in case everyone just gets yeah that's fine what yeah i guess i don't know
Starting point is 00:06:52 yeah like then your show's just gonna get shut down for like two weeks it's not worth it that's so ugh it's i mean there's there's no good way to go through this stuff i'm i'm curious of what happened with the tom cruise covid bots on the set of Mission Impossible. I'm like, did those end up existing? Wait, what were the COVID bots? Oh, it was because it was when I was covering for you, Jack. So Tom Cruise got really mad. I remember that.
Starting point is 00:07:17 He got really mad that COVID protocol was not being covered. And so instead of advocating for better standards on the set, he bought robots to go around and spy on the cast and crew to see if everyone was following social distancing guidelines. He literally was like, I know what we'll do. Big brother COVID robots. But I haven't heard about them in a while.
Starting point is 00:07:40 I wonder how it's going. That sounds terrifying. They couldn't just have like COVID officers who watch people. He's like, no, no watch people he's like no no we're gonna get robots and they go go follow them into the bathroom too they go follow them like z news on wheels like what the fuck it's it's so dark but um he did he he allegedly did get some covid bots so i don't i wonder how it's going i wonder if they're friendly didn't he decide to take a step back from filming or something like take a break because he kept having like meltdowns on the set and like they kept leaking them.
Starting point is 00:08:13 He was like, maybe I need to, I think it's a dangerous direction to take one's narcissism to, to be, to like, think you control everything. It seems like both everyone around him and he are convinced that he is a god of some sort. Right. That's the thing. Honestly, he's too short for that. I can't believe that's really held up. Because the man is so tiny when you see him.
Starting point is 00:08:41 Oh, God. Is he still up in that Scientology? Is he still rocking out with Xenu that scientology is he still rocking out for sure oh for sure yeah these are little xenobots just in the few times i've seen him speak uh not guarded the the scientology video where he's like talking about how he can save anyone's life if he like drives by a car accident and stops he can save their life. And then when he was talking about the set being him basically propping up all of Hollywood on his shoulders, that's a lot of pressure he's putting on himself via his just wildly unhealthy narcissism. All right, let's get to know you a little bit better in a moment lacy uh first just a few of
Starting point is 00:09:27 the things we're talking about uh covid cases are starting to fall uh we will talk about that and the mysterious circumstances surrounding that how i we i don't understand why they would be falling now there there is kind of a weird detail uh that just found out about. We can touch on briefly that weather is a big factor in weather in how much COVID is spreading in a given location. It's like not really being reported on, I feel like, because people feel like it's out of your control. But it does. I'm like glad to know it. We'll talk about Fox News Sean Hannity is
Starting point is 00:10:06 suffering from depression live on air so we'll talk about that we'll talk about the Lincoln Project turns out they were the bad guys we will talk about the stimulus package Jeff Bezos I got a couple things to say about this Bezos guy
Starting point is 00:10:22 and the Golden Globes of course uh we will talk about them all of that plenty more but first lacy we like to ask our guest what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are um something about my search history that is revealing about me is i have been doing a deep dive on cynthia rowley and her fashions and the reason for that is because on the bachelor this season with the black bachelor who is like pretty much white but but is still brown um a young republican a young republican uh who loves god and never had a black dad, you know, as us blacks be all the time. So Cynthia Rowley's daughter, Kit, is on the show. And she kept kind of being like, you know, my mom is just like a fashion icon.
Starting point is 00:11:16 And, you know, I'm just in the public eye all the time. And I was like, who was I? I ain't never seen you. And then I Googled her. I was about to say, should I know who this is? I didn't know they were doing nepotism pics on Bachelor now. No, she gives very much Blair Waldorf from Gossip Girl. It's like whatever scene she's involved in, I'm sure the girls know who she is.
Starting point is 00:11:35 But I would have never known. So I had to Google her. And then I was like, why is she on this show? She could go find her oil tycoon or something. Why is she trying to be with Matt in his two-bedroom apartment? What are you doing, boo-boo? You could do better than this i don't know i mean you love is important you know love first but um are you out on the season based on uh this dude being kind of not not as cool as initially advertised or are you still in no i'm still in i am disappointed that that I know ABC is not gonna
Starting point is 00:12:06 show his do-rag. Like, I want a fantasy suite where he wake up with a do-rag on with the cape in the back and I want it blowing in the wind. I want it Fabio style, but I know I'm not gonna get that. But I'm still gonna watch because I love Maz. It's true.
Starting point is 00:12:22 This girl, this, Blair Waldorf is the perfect uh holy shit yeah she's like a real blair waldorf ass yeah she's a she's a generic she's a blair waldorf light because you can tell her hair is not actually blonde in the first place right i think she's just trying to get herself some some recognition outside of her mom's shadow so um i go on arden mirren's podcast, Will You Accept This Rose, a few times. And she does the research. So she said the girls tried many businesses and, you know, online influencing.
Starting point is 00:12:54 So I think now The Bachelor will give her the boost that she needs. But it's still weird. Oh, is she young? She's only like 21? She's a baby. That's the other thing. It's like, you gonna get married? Wow, that's really young to be on The Bachelor. Like, that's the other thing it's like you're gonna get married wow that's there's so many sub genres of influencer at this point too that that it's like yeah i guess mommy
Starting point is 00:13:20 influencers is a whole category that there's all this drama i wouldn't even know and like what do you do when you're a mommy influencer your kids become less interesting because no one cares about a teen no one's like this is what i this is what i cut up for my 15 year old son right before he calls me a bitch and says he hates me like like we want to see where you're like you gotta have another this is blanket. It's covered in cum because my children won't stop. Right. It's like, this is how to get cum out of socks. I use soap and vinegar, which I use. I know there's like, I mean, it's like totally no disrespect to the mommy bloggers.
Starting point is 00:14:01 It just, it seems like it's, I don't know. Anytime you're like truly monetizing your life, it just feel like no matter who you are, it just gets I feel like you hit a wall eventually. I don't know. Because here's the thing. I I know it's some I don't know if I'll ever be slinging shit on Insta because to me it kind of gives like I need Instagram money and I'm not making, you know, real Hollywood money. But maybe I don't don't don't put me me, I might be slinging tea next week. So don't hold me to that. I might be like, mm-mm, bitch, this tea made me lose weight, made my hair grow.
Starting point is 00:14:35 I got that whop after I drank this tea. So I don't know. That might be me. But I feel like you can do it in a way where people feel like it's authentic, but you're really not telling people a lot about your actual life um but at the same time jamie i'm with you it does get weird at times like um especially when people like it's weird because i think people should be able to post happy things and sad things so that it's a balance of like we're not getting a fake you know whatever not just post what you want to post but But I remember Hilaria Baldwin, who I love so much.
Starting point is 00:15:06 If you don't know, that's Alec Baldwin's Hispanic wife. Scammer-ass wife. Who's not Hispanic. From Boston. She's from Boston. Doesn't remember what cucumbers are called. Matatutis. Matatutis.
Starting point is 00:15:20 She posted when they lost one of their babies um unfortunately they were in the hospital and she posted about it and it was sponsored by nivia and i was like oh oh my god don't even know where to begin there that is yeah it's like that just like comes down to like the whole authenticity thing where like there's a demand to be authentic online. But then if you actually are, then you're kind of putting yourself at risk for people to take your actual genuine like self and just relentlessly dump on it. Yeah, it becomes. Yeah. Like what is authenticity? Like you're necessarily like viewing everything through a lens of what is like how it's going to be perceived by your audience. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:16:09 When I first started working in content production is a really fun way to put it. Who said content? No, but people were like, once you start doing the thing you love and it becomes a paycheck, it's hard to like, continue to love it. Like you have to like work to maintain your relationship to it. So it's not, it doesn't just turn into like a, a burden or like another thing that,
Starting point is 00:16:36 uh, you have to, I don't know, struggle against. And like, if that, if that thing, instead of being like your creative outlet was your entire life, it feels like that would be difficult.
Starting point is 00:16:48 I would not be able to do that. I would probably lose. I'd probably start affecting a Hispanic accent. Yeah, it is a very personal thing where, I don't know, I don't share as much online as i did a couple of years ago because i don't know you just have enough bad experiences and then you're just like oh okay we're gonna we're going for an arm's length and that's fine yeah i i still share like my day-to-day because i feel like that makes people think that it's personal because i'll be
Starting point is 00:17:18 like oh i'm working out or oh i'm here if something funny happens or if my car gets towed stuff like that i'll share but like the one time i shared something that was actually happening in my life which is i have really bad uterine fibroids it was very sweet like but it was just an overwhelming outpour of support and i was like now i feel like i have to respond to everyone oh god what have i done so right right and then all of a sudden you're like the spokesperson for that issue and like it just yeah so much crazy shit has happened over the pandemic that i've just had to you know i'll call my friends and family but i just keep it to myself because it's like i just can't and i guess that's weird for me to be like i just can't stand how much people love me and are so nice to me i just it's no but it's a real it's a real like
Starting point is 00:17:58 philosophical thing that i think an entire generation is dealing with. But they turn on you too. I've learned about the ecosystem of all of this stuff. It's so interesting to me. There's people on Twitter who don't have any followers and if you go to their page, you won't see a lot of tweets. But if you go to their replies, that's where they're on other people's tweets
Starting point is 00:18:20 who do have followings trying to get likes and get followers, but then they don't have any real tweets and no one ever follows them so they don't it's just it's a like you know someone just by eating their own tail like a snake eating its own tail but every now and then i get mean people and that's interesting like another yesterday not yesterday but a few days ago there was a woman who wouldn't stop commenting on my post and she was like you look like tyrese in a wig and i thought that was funny um and she was like you look like what she said i look like Tyrese in a wig. And I thought that was funny. She was like, you look like what? She said I look like the singer slash Fast and Furious actor Tyrese,
Starting point is 00:18:50 known as Cry-Reese, in a wig. And she's like, you look like a roach. She just kept coming back, so I had to block her. But I was like, why does this lady hate me? I am fascinated by mean people because I'm so conflict avoidant like inherently that I'm always just like God you're amazing you can get dragged and if you get
Starting point is 00:19:11 dragged that's also a badge of honor it's like look at this person they dragged me yeah what Laci is something you think is underrated underrated I don't think that we're talking about this season of search party enough um i just found it to be such an amazing exploration of whiteness and privilege and and and just oh it's so good and then also just like where that comes from narcissism
Starting point is 00:19:42 and how deeply unhappy narcissists are and like it just it was great to me there were so many amazing moments we had some some group kissing intimacy between friends it was just oh my god i loved it so much i know the ending people were kind of mad about but i loved it i didn't have an issue with it i don't know it was such a good ride too that i'm like i could kind of end right any which way and i would have been happy to have watched it like it's yeah that whole group is so fucking great what season are we on now uh four i think right oh okay yeah i've only seen season one i just got hbo uh or just realized that i had h Max. Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah, so I am now. You just got your cable hook up?
Starting point is 00:20:28 Yeah, exactly. There's actually a gigantic satellite dish behind Jack. It's a huge satellite dish. I don't think that's good for your brain. I just have to turn it to the eastern corner of the sky, and I can sometimes get HBO. But yeah, I'm really looking forward to that. I loved season one and then
Starting point is 00:20:46 have not seen anything since then. It's cool because it's one of those shows where it seems like each season is its own story. It's not just dragging out season one. There's a unique kind of message and they play around with a different genre every season.
Starting point is 00:21:04 It's great. John Early is so funny fucking he's so funny um what is something you think is overrated overrated i'm sorry to gen z just got my driver's license but also i'm like maybe i get involved you know like seems like an easy check um yeah oh yeah and i know she's got like you just nailed it the disney community behind her and stuff so i know that there's like you know the youth like they have plenty of time to stream the song and blow it up and i'm sure it's a it's a fine song but i was like really number one in the world this this was your this what we doing like it's i was like what is this and i have the same thing to say about avocado singers i have to say about r&b
Starting point is 00:21:58 singers who are doing that like sizzling what are you saying I want to sing along. I'm tired of this. I'm tired of having to just be like, can I know the words? What happened? Enunciating. It's not a karaoke friendly singing style. No.
Starting point is 00:22:19 Because you're like, oh, I do need the words. I really do need them. And then when you read the words, you're like, wait, what? That's what the person is saying? She said, what? Right. We're all going to be in karaoke like, Come and stop all night.
Starting point is 00:22:32 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Seatbelt and I'm riding. Come and stop. That whole album is like, what? Like, Ariana Grande has one of the most beautiful voices I've ever heard. And I don't ever know what she'd be talking about. I don't know if we talking about sex. I don't know if we talking about,
Starting point is 00:22:48 honestly, Ariana could be, uh, organizing for Antifa. She'd be like, we're going to meet on third street. And we're going to be. That's how they stormed the Capitol.
Starting point is 00:23:01 I love Ariana's single. Yeah, she was sending messages through her vocals all of congress will be in the right way we won't know that driver's license song that was like one of those things where i i didn't think i had heard it but then i'm like oh i've heard that at 7-eleven every time I've been in a 7-Eleven for a month. I just didn't. It's a real 7-Eleven kind of song.
Starting point is 00:23:28 Oh, it is. No disrespect. I mean, it's like whatever. Because the girl is from the high school musical TV series. Is that right? Yeah, that's a little. High school musical, the movie, the TV show or something. Doesn't it have some meta title like that?
Starting point is 00:23:44 Yeah, I'm feeling like an absolute boomer not really knowing what it is but it's like good for her but i just like the this one seems acutely designed to be only meaningful to people between like who who aren't of legal drinking age yet and like that seems like it's kind of creating some of the some of the popularity because then everybody else is talking shit about it and like that's actually what makes it what makes pop music cool is like old people hating it so it's bizarre she was in that and then high school musical the musical the series yes that's exactly what it's called that's what i thought i knew there was one other show though yeah but I don't know Jack it's like
Starting point is 00:24:27 it gives me like remember that song that was like it started with a whisper that we all got tortured also a huge 7-11 song we all got tortured by that song but was anybody ever like this is a bop like they just were like, listen to this
Starting point is 00:24:46 song! Cram it down. I heard that song every day of my life. And I could not tell you whose song is that even? Who knows?
Starting point is 00:25:04 Nobody knows, Jamie. we've been trying to figure that out for years and uh the scientific community is still baffled uh unable to figure it out when i get the little emo side of the kids wanting this avocado song and liking to listen to it it's fine and she plays instruments i'm not trying to take anything away from her as a musician i was just like i don't know can we sing with our voices again no and we're not gonna say words we're not gonna put the t's at the ends of what no it's gonna be what no okay fair fair what did you just say right maybe that is like a thing like every gen i feel like every generation has like a musical style where they don't respect certain letters because it's like whatever like early
Starting point is 00:25:50 2000s pop music they didn't finish their words either where it's like yeah it's like more of a vowel issue for that generation their vowels are all over the place. Yeah. That's very true. All right. Let's take a break and we'll be back to talk about less important shit. When you think of Mexican culture, you think of avocado, mariachi,
Starting point is 00:26:21 delicious cuisine, and of course, lucha libre. It doesn't get more Mexican than this. Mariachi, delicious cuisine, and of course, Lucha Libre. It doesn't get more Mexican than this. Lucha Libre is known globally because it is much more than just a sport and much more than just entertainment. Lucha Libre is a type of storytelling. It's a dance.
Starting point is 00:26:36 It's tradition. It's culture. This is Lucha Libre Behind the Mask, a 12-episode podcast in both English and Spanish about the history and cultural richness of Lucha Libre. And I'm your host, Santos Escobar, the emperor of Lucha Libre and a WWE superstar. Santos! Santos! Join me as we learn more about the history behind this spectacular sport from its inception in the United States to how it became a global symbol of Mexican culture.
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Starting point is 00:27:24 Okay, everybody, we have exciting news to share. We're back with season two of the Amber and Lacey, Lacey and Amber show on Will Ferrell's Big Money Players Network. You thought you had fun last season? Well, you were right. And you should tune in today for new fun segments like Sister Court and listening to Lacey's steamy DMs. We've got new and exciting guests like Michael Beach. That's my husband. Daphne Spring, Daniel Thrasher, Peppermint, Morgan J., and more.
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Starting point is 00:28:17 How do you feel about this? Hi, I'm Akilah Hughes, and I'm so excited about my new podcast, Rebel Spirit, where I head back to my hometown in Kentucky and try to convince my high school to change their racist mascot, the Rebels, into something everyone in the South loves, the Biscuits. I was a lady rebel. Like, what does that even mean? The Boone County Rebels will stay the Boone County Rebels with the image of the Biscuits. It's right here in black and white in print. A lion. An individual that came to the school saying that God sent him to talk to me about the mascot switch. As a leader, you choose hills that you want to die on. Why would we want to be the losing team? I'd just take all the other stuff out of it.
Starting point is 00:28:57 On the segregation academies, when civil rights said that we need to integrate public schools, these charter schools were exempt from that. Bigger than a flag or mascot. You have to be ready for serious backlash. Listen to Rebel Spirit on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Dr. Laurie Santos, host of the Happiness Lab podcast. As the U.S. elections approach, it can feel like we're angrier and more divided than ever. But in a new, hopeful season of my podcast,
Starting point is 00:29:32 I'll share what the science really shows, that we're surprisingly more united than most people think. We all know something is wrong in our culture, in our politics, and that we need to do better and that we can do better. With the help of Stanford psychologist Jamil Zaki. It's really tragic. If cynicism were a pill, it'd be a poison. We'll see that our fellow humans, even those we disagree with, are more generous than we assume. My assumption, my feeling, my hunch is that a lot of us are actually looking for a way to disagree and still be in relationships with each other
Starting point is 00:30:05 all that on the happiness lab listen on the iheart radio app apple podcasts or wherever you listen to podcasts and we're back uh covid cases are there if you look at the charts the cases the the testing is still holding pretty steady dipping a little bit because people who don't feel sick aren't going to get tested quite as much but still for the most part holding steady uh and positives are just falling off a cliff dropping it's very positive news uh and weirdly looking at this chart just made me say you dumb motherfuckers over and over again uh because like as much as i knew what the trump administration was doing was criminally negligent it's kind of just stark to see it so obviously like that the guy who is just doing the very bare minimum listening to science and you know that that is causing numbers to drop like a stone. It's actually that simple.
Starting point is 00:31:27 I don't know. The more distance we get from the Trump administration, I feel like the angrier I'm going to be. Unfortunately, we're going to make this an annoying podcast. I know. But it's just like the more perspective I get on it, the more just, yeah, guess stark and uh infuriating it is that's understandable yeah yeah because it's like how much why do we let him fuck up so much also just like you know chris rock made that joke of like in no other profession do you get to just fuck up and they're just like but he got a four-year contract so we're just gonna let him
Starting point is 00:32:00 keep fucking up like if you're bad at your job it shouldn't i don't understand why the office of president is like look you can be terrible at this as long as you don't really break any laws clearly enough that we could be like you broke the law like there is that the that the bar is on the floor so you can just be so donald trump could have just never showed up to be president all four years and we'd have been like yeah he's still in office but he didn't you know he didn't bring no laws what yeah that's not how jobs work that's not any other job i it is i mean it's like i'm really happy to see that cases are falling in and i also see where you're coming from that like it just kind of reminds you of how needless so much loss was earlier on because it was like we've just started to do like intuitive stuff right now and it
Starting point is 00:32:47 immediately had an effect and it's sad for the families who unfortunately didn't um they didn't benefit from like you know the people who got coveted early on and the families who didn't benefit from all the things that we learned it's like they got practiced on and those people sadly are not with us anymore when they very well could have been so yeah yeah i mean so many people uh and yeah i don't like there there's other things like this article just came out on axios uh that is just a depiction of a single meeting that happened in december in the white house uh that again is just it's shocking to like view in retrospect and it's like wow we were so close to uh just complete chaos and civil war like that it's basically one side is sydney powell and michael flynn and all the kind of conspiracy theorists arguing for him to,
Starting point is 00:33:46 you know, basically like take over and like declare martial law. And then like his advisors, like trying to like pointing out, uh, your legal argument here is like rife with typos and doesn't make any sense. Um, and,
Starting point is 00:34:01 but the meeting ended after like four hours of them, like shouting swears at each other. The meeting ends with like his, uh, advisors saying, do what you want. We've told you the truth. It's up to you who to believe. And the fact that that wasn't, that he didn't then take that as a, you know, opportunity to just surf that all the way to the collapse of uh america is what i feel lucky that i i don't know it's a it's kind of a miracle we're not all living through a civil war right now um but yeah like we keep saying it's not like we avoided an asteroid we had a brush with like cancer or you know something else and we're in much greater danger of relapse or recurrence than we would other otherwise be so it's like there's still a huge danger let's talk about fox news i guess love what's going on over there haven't checked in on them in a bit what's going on i miss them yeah so they get new outfits yeah same outfits uh same kind of aesthetic but
Starting point is 00:35:08 um they're kind of going through an unprecedented identity crisis um where they've been caught in an outright lie by themselves and so like because the news division was like no that's not true and so now like hannity is having to admit that uh they lost the election and he's like blaming himself and being like not enough people read my book because i told you how dangerous this was gonna be and like just seems legitimately like depressed like he's suffering from depression live on air is just like kind of uh moping and uh yeah it's just kind of i don't know it's kind of amazing to see i love the notion of not enough people read my book like like his publisher was like no one's reading the book man no one's buying it he literally said i'm done with books i wrote in the book that's so funny that he is saying
Starting point is 00:36:06 this in 2021 this man was done with books decades ago are you kidding me he was done with books in second grade he was done yeah the book that he dictated he was expecting more people to read enough people to win trump the election um oh I think, you know, their ratings are falling. And I do think that beyond just the election, like this article in The Washington Post talks about how, you know, their ratings are falling. They seem to be like suffering from an identity crisis. They're not really sure what to do without Trump. And beyond just like the election and them not really having like a coherent narrative to rally behind on the election because trump kind of led their opinion contributors as they call them basically the people who are famous that anybody watches like sean hannity and
Starting point is 00:36:59 tucker carlson like trump led them down a path that was somewhat unsustainable because it was like so you know it was like the the thing michael flynn was shouting for in that white house meeting like it was just rife with typos and completely illogical um and so now they're like kind of coming back down and this article is like and nowupert Murdoch faces a stark choice between whether to follow Trump and the Trump supporters or the traditional conservatives. And I really think it's not that. I don't think they're trying to decide between the two. I think they're just waiting to decide between the two i think they're just waiting to see what trump does next and they're just going to like back him full hog
Starting point is 00:37:52 because you know the the choice like they always have known like what side their bread is buttered and it's like the racism fascism authoritarianism side and their current choice that washington post is acting like is a real choice is between uh this like wildly popular fascist movement and a boring traditional like conservative movement uh i don't i don't feel like they're gonna side with like mitch mcconnell and ben sass on that i think they're just waiting to see what trump's posture is going to be probably either give him a massive platform or uh you know just back it uh it's tough to say but it is going to be very bad i don't i don't think it's headed towards a direction where fox news comes back to Earth and is like, we're sorry. No, because it's like the second they started to back off of Trump at the peak of Trump breaking a law every second of the day, they lost money and they lost faith.
Starting point is 00:38:59 It's very bleak to watch that unfold and then be like, well, we better go back to extremism because that's what, you know, that's what paying the bills. Yeah. Yeah. And it works like. I mean, they've already fired two of the guys who were involved with calling Arizona for Biden. And like they contrasted that they were like, it wasn't just because those were mean to daddy it was also because uh when they were on the air on election night the ratings dipped uh and they contrasted that with dan bongino uh who like caused ratings to go through the roof and that
Starting point is 00:39:41 dude is like a that's a i'd never heard that name before but what a what a he sounds like an entertainer you know dan bongino about that you have the house rolling okay i mean that's the sacrifice you make when you because they did the exact same thing that trump did which was instead of telling the news they leaned into this new base and just tried to give them what they wanted instead of being a news outlet so how do you go back to being a news outlet after that you kind of can't so now they're just gonna become weird fringe news which is kind of sad because fox used to like it was never respectable news but you know it was news happening over there i would check it
Starting point is 00:40:20 every now and then when uh barack obama won office i checked fox news to make sure it was real because i knew those haters wouldn't wouldn't say it if it wasn't true and they said john mccain lost and i said okay but now yeah they couldn't bring themselves to say obama won but they're like yeah it looks like mccain might have lost i don't know yeah so i don't know who the other guy is but they won but obama swore in on the quran so uh it wasn't he was never my president i'll tell you that much uh that is an actual thing that uh the q anon uh representative believes oh they need help i mean that one of the founders of the Lincoln Project was revealed to be like a sexual predator. That's not shocking.
Starting point is 00:41:14 Grooming and soliciting 21 young men, often with promises of political careers. He's like a longtime Republican strategist, was on the McCainccain campaign in 2008 speaking of uh and also john one of one of the boring gop john guys uh from ohio what's that guy's name oh i don't know there's so many john john casey you're gonna ask me to tell one john from another john yeah john casey he was like involved with his campaign and then then he was like one of the handful of co-founders of the Lincoln Project there's four Johns in this story alone
Starting point is 00:41:53 holy shit so many Johns John Weaver, John Kasich, John McCain I'm like I don't know yeah my name is John too by the way I had to change it but you had the good sense to literally change it I don't know. Yeah. My name is John, too, by the way. I had to change it. But you had the good sense.
Starting point is 00:42:08 To literally change it. This is extremely, I'm glad that he's been called out. This is so fucking miserable. And the fact that it takes 21 cases, I feel like we've seen multiple examples of this recently and like um you know kind of like predatory people um being called out is like it's always like over 10 people that need to come forward before anyone takes it seriously it's like 21 what the fuck yeah that is so bleak yeah because that means that somebody knew at 21 people knew that's like joe paternal exactly yeah people knew absolutely yeah yeah absolutely yeah i mean somebody who's
Starting point is 00:42:52 been like they've been working together for like years like decades and he wasn't like hiding it right like he the 21 people are like yeah no he would uh well first of all one of them is a 14 year old uh who he was asking questions about his body while he was still in high school and then more pointed ones after he turned 18 uh and then there are texts basically he made it seem like this is a professional opportunity for you in one text exchange he told one man he would spoil you when we see each other uh help you other times give advice counsel help with bills you help me sensually uh which just the worst way also like he you can sensually creepy like he's also no yeah obviously all the stuff that he's doing is
Starting point is 00:43:45 illegal gross and creepy but even the way he texts it's just like he's like a man in the shadows like you want some candy like the creepiest kind of pedo like what yeah yeah these kinds of stories too it's like these are the kinds of stories that like specifically set like q anon types on fire because it's like oh you know they don't agree with the lincoln project fuck i barely agree with the link but like you know like they yeah it's like it's trash i don't you know whatever i won't even say that too much there but like whenever uh i feel like it kind of i don't know i talked about it a lot in lolita podcast so it's like fresh on my mind but the like whenever um whenever someone who isn't directly like aligned with q anon you know is exposed as kind of a predator that reinforces this false ideology that like everyone we don't like
Starting point is 00:44:38 is a child sexual predator when like the reality is that predators like that are in every corner like it's not a political leaning that like it's just i don't know like they're in your family it's so fucking miserable like come on y'all we all had that one uncle that your mom was like don't sit on his lap but like you can't stay over his house like so let's stop acting like but you know what it is weirdly embarrassing to me now too like when the wholeie Hammer text started to come out, I was like, oh, God, another Hollywood creep. Wow. Now we all look bad. I feel like weirdly ashamed when they come out now.
Starting point is 00:45:14 I'm like, oh, why would you do this to us? Right. It's it's just fucking miserable. It's like it. I don't know. I'm glad that it got put out. But it's like the fact that they had to get to 21 people that this happened to. That means that it was always whispered about.
Starting point is 00:45:32 That means that they probably get, you know him. He's got a thing for whatever. And it's like, that's not a thing. That's a crime. Why are we not? No one's going to call anybody. Right. Right.
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Starting point is 00:50:32 and I cannot figure out why anyone should give a shit about this at all. It just seems like an opportunity for the mainstream media to write articles that reinforce the sort of pro-billionaire propaganda like it's all like he started amazon in a garage in washington state uh you know a mere 20 years ago and it's like well he was also a wall street guy who then did that like he he rented out a garage probably for a lot of money and like outfitted it with an orange couch because he heard that's what you're supposed to do at startups and like uh but he's but people don't think of garage like that like when they when he i whenever i hear
Starting point is 00:51:18 that narrative spun it's always he started it in his garage so people were thinking like a two-car garage and like he was like amazon.com baby like it was like fucking nirvana or something like yeah yeah um i don't know it just ties into the overall myth of american capitalism that there's like these individual great man accomplishments and not that this is the inevitable consequence of a system that doesn't defend against monopoly and like one person is going to get that successful and like it's funny even this wall street journal article uh like it's, with a day one philosophy of always maintaining an underdog startup ethos. However, in recent years, Mr. Bezos has stepped back from day to day management. He doesn't set scheduled meetings before 10 a.m. and makes all his tough decisions before 5 p.m.
Starting point is 00:52:22 Makes all his tough decisions before 5 p.m. Employees say the billionaire is elusive. That's how they describe it. With many saying they have never spotted him on the company sprawling downtown Seattle campus. So he doesn't show up to work or works like, you know, between 10 and 5, which are things that would cause somebody to get immediately fired from an Amazon warehouse job. Right. Also, he could fucking solve world hunger today like i just the the like discussing the like ins and outs of his day-to-day i feel like it's just like glorifying some like you know innocuous like who gives a shit what he does at
Starting point is 00:53:00 what time he could fucking solve world hunger he could help people but he is not he fucking destroyed seattle and he's like just i don't know i just and and the way that these stories are framed uh of like the whatever the like he's just a startup guy who like worked really hard and hustled his way to the top and it's it just like implies that he has somehow earned all of this when it's like we know that that's not true like it's just exploiting people and that he's killing yeah and he's responsible for many deaths that they cover up all the time the amazon warehouses are an ocean nightmare like and they just hide it they don't make reports there's been so much if you just one quick google away you can find out and and that's why i hated when all that negative press came out about amazon during the pandemic um they made all these weird commercials where they basically were like holding people at
Starting point is 00:53:56 gunpoint like i love amazon they treat me so good here jeff bezos is like a father to me i like what is happening those were so weird and also yeah and everywhere yeah everywhere and if we haven't learned anything from the game stop thing is that the game is fucking rigged look at what happened when all the little everyday average joe people got their hands on some stocks that was being shorted all of a sudden your app doesn't work and you can't trade at all because it was never built for you to be a millionaire. You're not going to be able to work hard or make trades and be a millionaire because there's already millionaires and billionaires who are going to make sure you cannot get to that level because that's how they stay rich. So I'm like, I'm still praying for GameStop.
Starting point is 00:54:39 They in my prayers like they on the sick and shut. And I'm like, please, please, y'all hold the line. Don't sell them stocks so that we can just i want to ruin all the hedge funds i know we're gonna end up paying for it in our tax dollars but i just want to see it happen i feel like that one's already been is already being sunset to like this is what happens when you go against the big guy and like being covered as like the gamestStop thing was folly. But also, keep hustling, everybody. This could be you.
Starting point is 00:55:10 And it's like, no, it couldn't. It's been made exceedingly clear that it fucking couldn't be us. I think we all need to just look at that and realize that is the perfect example of you cannot be a billionaire because billionaires will not let you. Right, right.
Starting point is 00:55:24 The thing of specifically trying to reinforce the underdog myth um which is is the main motif that gets reasserted over and over again in these articles about him retiring um really like it really seems like it's uh the war department thing again like i taught for shorthand i i talk about how the u.s military changed its uh name from war department to department of defense once they started waging offensive wars because you like do that you change the name to be the opposite of the truth so that you can like kind of cover up for it and like with trying to portray billionaires as underdog stories like the
Starting point is 00:56:11 when people look at how billionaires make their fortune it's always the opposite of that it's always they find an advantage over someone who's smaller or has less resources than them and just exploit the shit out of that until they have billions of dollars. That's the only way to become a billionaire is by being a predatory capitalist who preys on less powerful dynamics, basically. But because we don't like the idea that that is the secret to capitalism, we tell ourselves over and over again and pay the Wall Street Journal to tell us over and over again that it's all Disney movies where the underdog came up. And I don't know. And it's weird because I feel like it's kind of unspoken that most people recognize that it is like a false narrative, but it hasn't stopped it from being pushed over and over and over. Yeah, I think it's...
Starting point is 00:57:14 I do wonder if we're like moving in that direction, but it does seem like it's... You wouldn't know it from reading like the mainstream accounts of jeff bezos and sure the way that it's also it's like a question of like well how many of these papers does jeff bezos own you know like it goes all the way to the top there yeah and this got me thinking uh about the billionaire space race again oh yeah which is i like it really cuts to the core of the like question around capitalism for me because like you know marx predicted almost 200 years ago capitalism keeps moving out and out and consuming and exploiting resources and i was like just as a personal philosophy was like
Starting point is 00:58:06 hopeful at a certain point that that wasn't necessarily going to be true there's this guy norman borlaug who like figured out farming and agriculture methods that ended up saving billions of lives people think and like that's you know innovation through capitalism that saved billions of lives so maybe like there's ways that capitalism will help us that they're just smarter and more capable and better than you and that they have the answers to all the world's problems when it's like yeah like you were saying earlier jamie like bezos could have ended world hunger in a day and he's not so if he's such a genius why are people still starving and dying but these people are trying to get trying to do the dougie on the moon what why and like and it's weird also
Starting point is 00:58:51 because there's a thing about genius that spills over and we've all widely accepted this in america where it's like oh well kanye west is a musical genius so that means he's a genius in every other right elon musk is great with you know technology so i would definitely let him operate on my heart like why can't we understand that there's different fields and there's different like no one is just overall the smartest at everything that does not exist we all have specific talents so it's like why does that not equate when you get up into the upper echelon of money like that? There's like, no, no, no. They know how to do everything.
Starting point is 00:59:27 No, they know space because they send packages. And also like equating it with like kind of inherent empathy that just like is so demonstrably untrue. They don't need your empathy. You need theirs. Right, right. They don't give you any. They don't give you any this is like this is sort of i like i really enjoy like space media i like learning about space i think it's really interesting
Starting point is 00:59:54 and these billionaires are fucking up space i don't like it i guess now i can't even i'm like i can't believe you guys took space from me like what space is like fun they're why oh no but now I'm like oh it is just a gigantic void it makes sense that they want to go there um it's like I mean there's this article uh in the independent where they interview they were like why do these three billionaires want to go to space and they just like take them all at their word they they take them all at their word that they were inspired by the moon landing um but there's a quote from jeff bezos where he literally says we humans have to go to space if we're going to continue to have a thriving civilization we're in the process of destroying our planet uh Yeah, you are. He said, we go.
Starting point is 01:00:46 I was like, by we, do you mean you and your friends? Like, I'm going to run through this planet. So I got to find my next one. We've sent robotic probes to every planet in the solar system. This is the good one. We have to preserve this planet. We can do that using the resources of space so he's basically saying like we're just gonna go to space and get like all the
Starting point is 01:01:10 i don't know fucking oxygen we need or something and that that's like the fact that they didn't just like focus in on that first part where he's like yeah we have to go to space we're destroying the planet and me and my rich friends are going to go to space. What do you think, idiot? And instead, we're like, oh, yeah, he's going to help everybody when he goes to space. That's what they're talking about at dinner parties. Jeff Bezos is like, look, I'm sick and tired of these people
Starting point is 01:01:36 dying on the job. If I get me some aliens doing these routes, no one can tell me I can't abuse aliens. We don't got no laws for that there's a new york times article recently about how they are uh jeff bezos nilan musk who are the two richest human beings on earth other than vladimir putin um who are like fighting with each other because of like space laws. And like one of them is trying to bring their satellites into lower orbit and the other one's fighting him.
Starting point is 01:02:11 And it's just like such a dick measuring contest. And this New York times articles like pointing out that they could be working together to give literally everyone on the planet internet, which is a necessity, a thing that we need and that needs to happen like soon give all civilizations on the planet like access to the same information technology that is increasingly running the world uh but instead they're just like focused on you know it's capitalism they're finding selfishness yeah yeah selfishness and
Starting point is 01:02:45 exploiting well for the whole pandemic there is i mean there's been stories forever about like kids that have to like go hang outside a taco bell in order to attend their like zoom classes like and there's just no i don't know and it's fucking pennies to someone like elon musk or jeff bezos it's i don't know everyone know. Everyone knows this shit but they're going to space and there's nothing we can do about it. I don't know if you guys can hear my children fighting in the background.
Starting point is 01:03:15 No. I hope they're fighting for your love. Yeah, they duel every morning with Nerf guns but the winner gets a hug from daddy uh shall we talk about golden globe i'm trying to figure out if they're especially bad this year i've always had a tough time taking the golden Globe seriously since Johnny Depp won that Golden Globe for The Tourist, that movie that everybody forgot the second it hit theaters
Starting point is 01:03:54 because nobody thought it was good. I don't know. The selection seems especially bad in terms of this, but not that evaluation. Yeah, I feel like this year is only different because we all had the opportunity well a lot of us there were a lot of people who were essential workers and i shout out to y'all thank you um who didn't have the opportunity to sit on their couch and be at home for hours on end tortured and nothing but television to relieve the pain so so i've seen a lot of these tv shows i've seen a lot of these movies and i feel like that is probably a lot of people's experience as
Starting point is 01:04:33 well is like this time around we actually know what emily in paris is because we all watched it on netflix in one sitting um we know what the flight attendant is so i think that's the only difference is normally there's stuff a lot of stuff that i hadn't seen and so i'm like oh okay i guess i've recognized that person but this time around i'm like wait a minute yeah yeah i guess this is like the highest concentration probably of like i've seen more of this stuff than i haven't, which is definitely not how it usually goes. I watched The Great. I watched The Flight Attendant.
Starting point is 01:05:10 I watched Schitt's Creek, obviously. Emily in Paris. The Crown. Killing Eve. Ratched. Saw that. And I feel like Sarah Paulson getting a nomination for Ratched is just like them being like, Brian Murphy, we love you, boo.
Starting point is 01:05:19 Like, that show was weird. Same with The Prom. I mean, I enjoyed The Prom, but, like, the stuff that got nominated the prom got nominated for seriously what they get nominated for james corden got nominated for the prom which is wild because first of all like a lot of people were criticizing his performance for being like low-key homophobic in the first place but there was like a lot of like bullshit performances that were nominated over i don't know like i may destroy you i'm pretty sure got
Starting point is 01:05:42 completely snubbed like there's just amazing shows that got nothing search party got nothing you're just like well no that's the but that's i don't know and the thing is is like i've been seeing a lot of black people and artists and people in the entertainment producers that i follow just being like look you know white people hate us whatever we're moving on like we're not gonna do this outrage thing again of like how you guys hate our shows and our guts like whatever you love us you also hate us what are we gonna do uh don't give us awards whatever we make shit cool boo on you so like we're not gonna do the represent like we're not i feel like never all the black people aren't doing the rigmarole this black history month we're like it's fine y'all stupid we don't care but i have to say james
Starting point is 01:06:20 corden that should have first of all it should have been titus uh bergeris in that role yes we all know agree yeah and we all know it yep and then it's like james that was out of everybody in that movie they gonna give it was not a good performance he was given the worst on top of like he gave the girls nothing he gave them nothing and i'm pretty sure none of the girls got nominated it was just like ryan murphy and james corden which i'm just like oh god this i don't know i'm curious on what i know that miles uh has a plug at the golden globes but i just i don't know there is like a part of me that's like oh it does feel like the internet has reached stasis again when we're arguing about shit like this and i do like that yeah the golden globes though is giving
Starting point is 01:07:05 vmas it's giving mtv vmas it's like we gotta have all the famous girls there so people will watch the show it's not giving like they actually watched anything they were like who's popular the the uh eric clapton yeah okay um who else um there's like there are some that i was like oh that's fun like they're i don't know the aaron sorkin i just am like a general aaron sorkin hater so i any i'm just like oh okay we're still we're still doing that interesting uh promising young woman got some stuff i really liked that movie like i don't know there's good there's good shit and there's some very clear snubs and then there's james corden in the prom which you're just like come on i feel bad for anybody who's in the best performance by an actor drama category this year because chadwick boseman is in there posthumously
Starting point is 01:07:55 and you just know they're gonna give it to him so it's just like if you're nominated in that category just go ahead stay home because you're not gonna get that they're gonna make a whole moment out of it i mean you're not gonna get that don't even log into the zoom don't bother uh yeah i don't i don't know i haven't i haven't looked through the entire list in in detail but it just seems like kind of a like a just a hodgepodge of shit but i guess it's like i have seen more of this stuff than i normally would so which is why i'm like normally i wouldn't be like ratchet really uh but now i know because i watched that show and i uh had no fun watching i watched that was i have not heard a single positive thing about that show until it got nominated it was weird and problematic yeah
Starting point is 01:08:41 it but it was beautifully shot but it like, what are we doing here? Everyone is confusion. But Netflix told me to watch it. They were like, and I was like, okay, what's the next thing? Netflix, I'm watching. Also, before I knew it.
Starting point is 01:08:56 The undoing, the undoing got a ton of shit. And I don't know. I had fun watching that because it was so frustrating. You didn't get undone? I didn't get undone. I didn't get undone. I didn't.
Starting point is 01:09:07 I got undone. The end. I was there the whole time. And then the ending, I literally made a charcuterie board for the last night of the undoing. And I left disappointed. Oh, no. I left full mom. Because, I mean, I'm not going to spoil it if you haven't seen it.
Starting point is 01:09:24 But I think Hugh Grant played that role, and I think he does deserve a nomination. He was good, yeah. All it was was he was so good at being himself. He was so good at being charming and British, and you were just like, yes, Hugh. I'm not going to spoil it, but Hugh did a good job. I feel like Hugh Grant andle kidman's jackets were the
Starting point is 01:09:46 highlight of that show for me they were yeah she can wear a jacket yeah um yeah there's so many hbo stuff i haven't seen yet uh i may destroy you is getting a lot a lot of attention as like how the fuck did you leave this off while emily in paris was there. They're crazy. That's absolutely... Unless Michaela Cole didn't submit it, that show changed... I had girlfriends calling me and who were like, oh, I didn't know I was assaulted
Starting point is 01:10:16 because they were stealth and didn't know what that was. It was just so powerful and still somehow light. I could still watch it because you know sometimes the euphoria gets bleak for me at times where i'm like oh the babies is doing heroin again i gotta turn this off like so yeah that's a huge snub especially with emily and paris's but i like i said the golden globes we all know the golden globes don't they're not the emmys they're the
Starting point is 01:10:41 vmas so they gotta get the celebs there they gotta get the celebs on the zoom call I'm also like why not just like nominate people that like actually gave the best performances this year if you can't even have a ceremony like come on they want you to watch this and also if you're gonna be they want you to watch the zoom really bad if you're gonna be the fun awards show like do something fun with the categories like have a best like best last episode best i don't know like don't just do the oscars but over again like somebody was pointing out that it's still so strange that they divide acting uh by between uh actors and actresses it's like what why is that so they can have more categories i did but what annoys me still is why is does drama always get its own special thing and then
Starting point is 01:11:34 comedy which is arguably harder um is literally like it's like comedy musical um that one YouTube video like they put everything in one category like why we gotta compete against everybody else anything else that happened on TV right comedy and musical is very strange that they're lumped together I really hope that Maria Bakalova
Starting point is 01:12:00 gets the award in her category though because I loved her so much in Borat she was so good I don't know how they, because I loved her so much in Borat. She was so good. She was so good. I don't know how they did that. Sacha Baron Cohen was amazing in Borat. That was very good. He was great, yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:12 It is kind of cool that they nominated Borat for a couple of awards. Probably not a sign of things to come in the Academy Awards. Oh, Sacha Baron Cohen's up for the trial of Chicago 7, though, not Borat? And also Borat, I believe. Oh, he's nominated for both.
Starting point is 01:12:32 He's nominated in Drama and, okay, I agree with Borat, but I was telling you guys off mic, my dad called me livid about his Boston accent in Trial of the Chicago 7, but like, best of luck to him. Hopefully not a lot of Academy voters are from Boston. Well, Lacey and Jamie, it's been so
Starting point is 01:12:51 wonderful having you both on today. Where can people find you and follow you? As always, you can... Jamie, Lacey, let's go with you first. Sorry about that. As always, guys. Well, if you like comedy and you like robbery, you listen to my podcast, Scam God is Pod. And then you can always find me at D-I-V-A-L-A-C-I, Diva Lacey on all platforms. Oh, and I'm back on ABC's The Con.
Starting point is 01:13:18 So look out for that. Hell yeah. Nice. And is there a tweet or some of the work of social media you've been enjoying? Yes, there is. Okay, so this tweet actually comes from my good Judy, my good homegirl, Mary Anthony. You can follow her at MaryEAnthony1. That's a horrible Twitter name, Mary.
Starting point is 01:13:38 But MaryEAnthony1 on Twitter. And she took a picture of like, I don't know if you guys can see, but it's like feminine products like Vagisil and Tampax and Summer's Eve, which Summer's Eve is like a spray you like put in your vagina to smell good. And she says, which one of these will make my cuda taste like Baja Blast? I really love that. Baja Blast content. Yes. that's for you jamie where can people find you thank you so much uh where can you where can people find you what's a tweet you've been enjoying uh you can find me wherever you want on twitter instagram uh listen to lolita podcast it just finished up this week and i'm going to shout out a Hunter Harris tweet.
Starting point is 01:14:25 Uh, she had a great just string of golden globes takes this morning. And my favorite was Aaron Sorkin getting nominated for directing is like Bohemian Rhapsody getting nominated for editing. Right. Damn. Great. All of Hunter's takes are,
Starting point is 01:14:42 uh, just no notes, flawless. So follow her at Hunter H. Harris um let's see some tweets I've been enjoying um
Starting point is 01:14:54 Mariana best ass on this app tweeted I prefer sativas as a fun way of saying you don't have an anxiety disorder yes at cotton can daddy tweeted is a fun way of saying you don't have an anxiety disorder. Yes. At Cotton Can Daddy tweeted, Jeff Bezos is not special.
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