The Daily Zeitgeist - Why Can't We Trend Together by Trendy Thomas 6/6: Steve Bannon, Ikea, Roblox, Will Smith, Academy Awards, Biden D-Day
Episode Date: June 6, 2024In this edition of Why Can't We Trend Together by Trendy Thomas, Jack and Miles discuss Steve Bannon going to jail, Ikea paying people to 'work' in its virtual Roblox store, Will Smith getting slapped... in 'Bad Boys 4', the Academy finally recognizing stunt people, Biden observing D-Day in France and much more! WATCH: Timmy Thomas - Why Can't We Live Together (Countdown, 1986)See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Why Can't We Trend Together?
By Trendy Thomas.
Tell me why, tell me why, tell me why.
There it is.
I'm Jack. That is Miles.
We are currently kind of into this video of a performance of the song that Hotline Bling samples called Why Can't We Live Together by Jamie Thomas.
1986 live performance.
We'll just put in the footnotes, man.
Just watch this.
It's one of the best.
My keyboard isn't plugged in and I'm on drugs live performance.
So much on drugs.
On so much drugs.
It's really infectious.
Or not.
I don't want to cast aspersions.
He could just be a freak.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
He's high as a kite.
High in the only, in only a way that people in the late 70s were like that
high publicly you know
yeah yeah yeah if anyone has
any details on that please
let us know where we can get those
drugs um he's
yeah he's flying but it's
a good it's i it's surprisingly
close to hotline bling
um because when hotline bling
first came out people were, this is the same
as that dram song. This is
the same as...
No, it is straight up
this Timmy Thomas song.
It's the laziest kind of sampling.
When people are just like,
yeah, that part, I'm just going to put some drums on it.
It's fine. Not to say that that's not a great way
of sampling, but it doesn't take
much imagination. There was no mystery mystery there was no imagination um anyways
uh highly recommend it and maybe we'll play it for you in one of our forthcoming video episodes
keep an eye out for that yeah yeah slowly we're in the lab we're in the lab in the lab uh well miles uh steve bannon it's not always that i'm
happy to see his name trending but today's one of those days yeah he's going to jail big man in the
big house and you know this is what happened so it's not because like well is it for like the
coup and like all this other stuff no he is basically going to jail because he was convicted of
contempt of Congress after he did not
comply with a subpoena
from the January 6th committee.
And he was like, yeah, asshole, try and force it.
And then he was convicted
and he's like, I'm gonna
appeal. And the appeals court's like,
no, sorry, asshole. So now he must
go to jail to report to jail
for his four-month sentence uh
by july 1st yeah shame that he won't be not only had he not faced consequence like all of his
behavior in line with this specific conviction is just the behavior of somebody who has been so
free of consequence for their whole life they can't even like really conceive of the idea of
facing consequences right they're just like congress like you're gonna go to jail man like
you gotta come and like just at every turn just was like yeah okay yeah sure sure dickhead a fourth
polo shirt on and give you the double barrel fingers. Fuck you. And it's funny, like, part of me is like
I hate celebrating people going
to jail because fuck prisons.
I think we can make an exception. But with this, like,
we're just so used to these fucking freaks
like you're saying, just being like, I don't
give a fuck about the law.
And you're like, why the fuck do we then?
And then you're like, okay, glad.
So there are, I guess,
a four month sentence. uh but you know like
he'll probably come out stronger than ever yeah be interesting to see how jail affects him and
trump's not going to jail right like we can all agree like that september or uh not september 11th
uh july 11th which i believe is only 6.88 weeks from September 11th, is going to be disappointing, right?
Now I need to look at what 6.8 weeks was either side of September 11th, 2001.
I feel like this may be opening up some sacred geometry.
Crack the code.
It's a reference to a paragraph about pumpkin pie M&M's.
I don't know. Not everybody listens to every episode.
Okay, I'll read it again.
I didn't say you needed to do that.
Well, the pre-seasonal launch of milk chocolate pumpkin pie
M&M's is a strategic move that taps
into Mars.
I can't, dude. I'm going to be saying this
in the old folks' home when no one comes to visit
me anymore. This is the one thing I'll have on loop
coming out of my mouth. What did mean what did it all mean oh he's he's urinating into his plants
again hey man that's we're actually going to be required to do that by the time we're in old folks
probably had to recycle the the moistures and then you drink drink out of the bottom and uh the the
plant will have mostly cleaned it out oh like water world yeah
exactly doesn't he drink his piss in water world he does he has like a big funnely machine full of
like yeah yeah piss processor and what's it's galore uh yeah clean thing about he's got plenty
um all right ikea is uh there's a new way to make money, folks. And... Yeah, what? I'm still having trouble.
This is... IKEA has created a
Roblox video game.
Our game inside of Roblox.
I'm there. I understand that.
And then... But it
pays people to work?
$16 an hour
to virtual workers
who have to be 18 or older.
And your duties include organizing products and Ikea showrooms and serving
endless amounts of meatballs at the Swedish food market.
So I think it's just like they have actual work that needs to be done in the
Roblox.
So like,
it feels like a paid moderator account,
but just in a video game where things need to be done.
I just don't know.
What are they?
How?
How is their digital labor being done?
This just feels funny, right?
Where they're like, hey, you work at Ikea, but you're not moving shit around for them in a realistic way that affects their business.
I don't know.
Maybe you have to...
Maybe it helps bring people to the IKEA Roblox game.
There's somebody who's there doing reliable work
that you can interact with.
I don't know.
It allows, quote,
player employees to immerse themselves
in the working world of IKEA. Applying for this job includes answering questions like, if you were pixelated IKEA furniture, what would you be? I think it's just like a fun way to, because I don't think everybody can now get a gig working at digital IKEA, because if that was the case, I know a lot of people who would probably just do that. that like 16 an hour i can be fully butt naked smoking weed and i eat digital meatballs fine
fine sure sure but maybe this is like the testing ground for our future matrix battery world
where they're like yeah man suit up for your digital shift we need your human calories to
power our machine world yeah i'll take your job though so there's a already a popular game 3008 3008 uh which is a
horror survival game set in an infinite ikea um and ikea has a history of taking legal action
against indie horror action games that are set in ikea like stores but aren't actually associated with them so yeah i think
i mean a more fun video game is like i don't know if it takes place in the only thing i associate
with ikea is swedish meatballs and couples fighting and arguing yeah i feel like uh is
there no movie that takes place in ikea like it feels like it should be there was remember there were like people who are illegally shooting like a show inside of an ikea this is like 10
years ago i feel like why is there not like a good big budget like zombie movie or rom-com
or action movie like die hard in an ikea yes please oh you're saying like as the venue yeah there oh 2009 it was called dude yeah
it was a channel 101 show it was called ikea heights and did it like presuppose did it did
it like create a fictional universe where like different people lived in different sections of
an ikea yeah like it was like a soap opera wow but i think they were just using the
sets basically the built out things as sets oh wow and it was just shot in an ikea this dude man
then like randall like randall park was in it matt bronger past guests i could see an ikea
set movie in like basically every genre.
Oh, like an Ikea? It's that malleable? Like a post-apocalyptic movie where the world
that we've built for ourselves indoors
is just one big Ikea.
You sleep in
the one bedroom
set up and then get out of bed
and you're in the middle of an Ikea
with a bunch of other bedroom set ups.
Then also, yeah, it could be easily a comedy. Easily a rom-com where you're in the middle of an ikea with like a bunch of other bedroom setups then also yeah it
could be easily a comedy easily a rom-com where you're like trapped in an ikea trying to i don't
know wait everyone's trapped in an ikea i just felt like as a venue no no i just mean like in
the broad existential sense for the comedy for the rom-com you know in the way that the reason
that couples actually fight in ikea's because yeah is this the
rest of my life like turns consumerism into like an overwhelming uh existential experience um yeah
well look just just fucking make just open up like a fucking drive-thru for meatballs
yeah that would really help out i think that's honestly the only move
ikea has to play after this after obviously just giving people fast furniture but create a window
drive-thru section just for the meatballs because i will eat them they need help come on ikea listen
to us uh let's take a quick break and we'll be right back.
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And we're back.
We're back.
And as I said during the break,
we got the story where Will Smith
gets slapped in Big Boys 4.
Misspoke. I've been a dad for way too long. Instead in Big Boys 4. Misspoke.
I've been a dad for way too long.
Instead of Bad Boys 4.
Big Boys 4.
Big Boys, Big Boys.
What you gonna do? This is so weird. They're leaking
so much weird shit like incrementally
about this because I feel like no one
I loved the first one
and then it was just diminishing returns after that.
And then this time I saw a thing where Lionel Messi was in an ad for it.
That was just sort of like, what the fuck?
That's just not funny.
There are so many weird sports tie-ins for movies around this time of year.
I remember, was it two years ago when Nope came out?
And there were all these Steph Curry oh yeah tie-ins with nope yeah
wait why is why is steph curry playing basketball inside the house from nope right you know right
no this one was like messy was like their neighbor yeah he's like he's saying like
yeah yeah yeah and you're like okay and then the last thing i saw
was just like a clip a behind the scenes clip of this camera rig that will smith was using to
create like these pov shots like for when he was like drawing his weapon and it would just like be
like pov of him holding the gun then pov back looking at him and like he was able to he was
operating the camera with it i was like oh that's an interesting filmmaking thing but there's just
like so much being like bad boys bad boys bad boys that i'm like okay we get it
like now what he gets yeah so now you know what the great the great piece of uh viral marketing
they came up with is putting something uh that is going to be headline generating inside the movie. In this case, there is a scene in which
Will Smith
is having a panic
attack and Martin Lawrence has to slap him
several times to shake him out of it.
And I do
deeply apologize for
if that spoiled
one of the set pieces of
Bad Boys 4 for people.
And then, but what happens
uh probably if i had to guess he gets snapped out of it um like does the thing i mean the only way
having a panic attack and then get like brutally murdered by the drug cartel that there's just such
a weird thing like it for it to be like this sort of like meta culture joke like does it does will smith
during this panic attack say something about martin lawrence's wife so we don't know we have
this setup you know i mean possible to know that miles um the it's just such a stupid wait i don't
like why tease that out it's a pop exorcism miles it's a pop exorcism that's what some critics are calling it
oh command the ones who are paid to like it uh other people are calling it a lame meta joke
a tasteless nod to the slap meant to rehab smith's image people are really mad about the slap still
i've noticed yeah you know i didn't i wasn't expecting that not you weren't expecting the slap i just i can't i don't
want to see things like that on stage like that i don't know yeah granted it was like a weird moment
but whatever man sure a tasteless nod to the slap how dare you cheapen that moment when he
walked on stage and slapped so it Which is funny too because on the internet
I felt like a lot
of black people were like, I mean,
you know, it's the same shit about his wife.
That was kind of the vibe.
There was so much pearl clutching
happening from like, that's so
shameful. So you're like, okay,
I see the racism part creeping
in. Right.
It was just funny because most people
were like yo he's been saying shit about jada for so long that you could kind of see like a
timeline of where it comes to that obviously no one's saying like yeah advocate for putting hands
on people constantly out of nowhere just on a on a dime but it was sort of one of those things i
mean dude was talking shit about his wife i don't know yeah shit like that happens call it a tasteless reference to the slap is weird slap is like
is a tasteless like tabloid moment so what what the fuck are you even talking about yeah
clearly they don't care if they're saying they don't give a shit uh the movie is getting like about the same reviews as
previous bit boys uh the three bad boys three which was the the top grossing film for the year
2020 um because it was the last movie to come out before the pandemic shut everything down
feels weird for a bad boys movie to come out in the early part of the year like bad boys has always felt like a summer movie
thing it was uh i think they had extremely low expectation i think was what why they did that
they were like and they knew about the pandemic and they had some sense what you know not everybody
obviously knew what christopher nolan they didn't tell about it because he had tenet about to come out he was like uh yeah yeah i mean because yeah i mean because like when i think about
bad boys too i was so hyped because that was the summer i graduated high school and like bad boys
too yeah yeah yeah i was like oh fuck yeah bro bad boys too the world is fucking smiling on me i can't wait to graduate college in 2007 everything
will be okay yeah that's the that's funny that every bad boys movie like heralds some uh plague
upon us like bad boys 2 is the global financial collapse bad boys 3 is uh covet 19 we'll we'll see what we got coming to us second trump presidency another
global pandemic i don't know we don't know there was that story about no the like a person in
mexico dying of bird flu which everyone was like yeah that was something that i recently asked my
wife about uh she's not an epidemi epidemiologist she's a medical doctor though
stop asking about this
hearing stuff that like
it's not going to be a hundred years until the next
global pandemic
this last break that we had
between 1911 and COVID-19
it might be a lot
sooner because of climate change
she's like yeah yeah yeah no of course
I was like what
where's your bedside manner a lot sooner because of climate change she's like yeah yeah no of course i was like what uh wait what
where's your bedside manner don't fucking be don't give me home with the fucking truth and i do
leave her reviews about her bedside manner all the time and uh she's leaving me so uh
but yeah it sounds that sounds very scary to me the world health organization was like the risk of
like human transmission is
pretty low. That's what they're still saying.
At the moment. Human transmission.
Anyways, stay safe
out there, folks.
The reviews look about the
same. We'll see if Bad Boys 4
is the movie that
gets the box office out of
its dull drum will you go
see it no
will you watch it on the airplane
yeah yeah yeah that's what i think
that's where i think this one nets out at at least for me
but i get it that that scene in
bad boys 2 where they're throwing things off of
the car carrier is uh
and isn't there like bodies
in they're throwing dead bodies
like it's a car chase where they're yeah
yeah yeah yeah like cars and then thrown dead bodies uh is one of the wildest things like it's
it's not a high point in the history of cinema but it is a point things that make you go things
that you can never your brain can't forget yeah i get it let's see the academy might finally uh listen to us and add
a stunt category to the oscars this is something we've been saying you know they need to something
we specifically have been clamoring for again you're welcome you're welcome the world so they
already just added a uh casting category which i think is fun right like casting is there's a movie podcast
like talk about and this is who they were initially going to cast and then they either
because of like circumstance or just good decision making like right went with who they went with
and it like changes fucking everything.
That's cool.
I like the idea of being able to appreciate casting more.
Granted, they're not going to be like, and look at
who we almost went with on this.
That would have fucking sucked.
Will Smith was going to be Neo in the
Matrix. They can't
do that at the Oscars.
The casting one is cool
in theory, but I feel like
in execution, it's not going to be that fun of an addition to the Oscars. The casting one is cool in theory, but I feel like in execution
it's not going to be that fun of an addition
to the Academy Awards.
However, stunts,
where you get to see them
do the stunts and show you
what went into the stunts
and think about the art
and physics that
goes into this shit.
If we're giving awards for effects,
if we're giving awards for effects,
if we're giving awards for costumes,
we should be giving it for like,
this is such a part of the filmmaking process that to not to ignore that.
It really does seem a bit odd. Like anytime you're like,
holy shit in a movie,
it's not because like,
it's like we have to honor the moments where people go holy shit and
how those came together especially like with stunts but i think effect is also like one that
we should be because they don't have like a category for best like visual like effect do
they like best yeah special effect visual effects yeah they do yeah yeah yeah all right are you okay nah not at all
yeah godzilla minus not really man i believe won it this year this last year okay yeah yeah yeah
i haven't watched the academy awards since the slap uh it made me so upset i get it i get it i
get it yeah um but yeah like i think what was you like it's like when mary poppins like won it that's how long i've had that shit visual effects yeah okay
i don't believe you anyways uh this is like me with the artificial flavors shit
yeah i'm like i don't know man are you sure about that? I'm like, yes. It's right there.
It's right there.
And finally, Joe Biden went over to observe D-Day in France,
and Russia was not present,
because even though they were a big part,
some may say the big part of winning World War II.
That's according to historians on the subject.
Experts on the subject say that maybe it was the contribution of Russia that ultimately won World War II.
I live in America, and it all happened on D-Day.
When you said Biden went to go observe D-Day in France, I just thought of him as being this nepo person who was able to dodge the drafts.
Like, Daddy, I want to see the men land on the beach. Observe that looked like it hurt we all sat in dirigibles with our binoculars with our
binoculars on yes some real sporting fighting going on over there um no and then uh biden like
dunked on russia during his speech suggesting parallels between the invasion in Ukraine
and World War II, which, I don't know,
teasing World War III may not have been the best tone
for observing World War II.
Yeah, not right now.
Not when there's a lot of nuclear bluster happening.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Also weird to hear someone rant about illegal aggressions
in the world with absolutely no mention of Gaza.
Yeah, seriously.
But, you know, this is a campaign
stop, and in addition to
his speech, he dropped a new commercial on
D-Day featuring interviews with veterans
crapping on Trump
for being a draft dodger.
Oh,
genius, Team Biden.
Genius, that's right.
Of all the thing like so trump has like called soldiers who died in wars like you know just like shit shit on them shit on their families like made
like i wouldn't have gotten captured yeah yeah like he's done so much bad shit with regards to the military that going with like
draft dodger just feels like we're mad like and granted he you know got out of the draft
purely due to his wealth and privilege but it was vietnam yeah exactly you're like haven't we
stopped vilifying vietnam draft dodgers right right right it is a weird
take but also just like weirder in the larger context because veterans are always used as this
like political cudgel yeah where but neither party gives a fuck about them they just think it's this
thing you have like especially since 9-11 like evoking the troops and shit feels like oh man
it feels good to do now do we give a fuck about the condition
like these people are in when we've used them in our wars of empire and resources no so like
it's weird to be like do you like you politically these people aren't even respected and just used
as like a prop so then to like use it to attack another person it's like but none none of y'all
give a fuck about it so who's this supposed to move and the veterans that support trump they don't give a fuck that he was
disrespecting like gold star families and all that kind of shit so it's just like okay man yeah you
spent a lot of money talking to some like older dudes who are talking about the war right yeah
is this like a savvy political move i honestly don't think so but god is ass i say yeah
look me i say god is trying to be the goat of losing elections i guess so sure let's try it
out let's try it out let's try it out and like no maybe like do something about veteran care too
as president that would be cool hey what about that oh man you know donald trump he didn't have to
suffer like you did in a meaningless war yeah huh what do you think now about him it's like i don't
know i think that war was meaningless i'm kind of pissed off that i had to be part of it yeah
okay no no more more on him being like a shithead uh maybe you could use like old
tiny grizzled phrases sorry colonel do you mind saying this line uh i'm not really
comfortable just just read it just to see how it sounds okay donald trump is a damn shithead
according to me perfect thank you we're gonna thank you so much and thank you for your service
all right those are some of the things that are trending on this thursday afternoon we are back
tomorrow with a whole ass episode of the show.
Until then, be kind to each other.
Be kind to yourselves.
Get your vaccines.
Get your flu shots.
Don't do nothing about white supremacy.
And we will talk to y'all tomorrow.
Bye.
Bye.
I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult.
And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church.
And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed.
Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and Shekinah Church.
Listen to Forgive Me For I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
I'm Keri Champion, and this is Season 4 of Naked Sports.
Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry.
Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese.
Every great player needs a foil.
I know I'll go down in history.
People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game.
Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports.
Listen to the making of a rivalry, Caitlin Clark versus Angel Reese
on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Presented by Elf Beauty, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports.
Hey, I'm Gianna Pardenti. And I'm Jermaine Jackson-Gadsden. Presented by Elf Beauty, founding negotiation expert Maury Tahiripour. If you start thinking about negotiations as just a conversation,
then I think it sort of eases us a little bit.
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