The Daily Zeitgeist - Wig Little Lies, UFOK Whatever 7.9.19

Episode Date: July 9, 2019

In episode 428, Jack and Miles are joined by Night Call's Tess Lynch to discuss the USWNT winning the World Cup, the US census shake up, the arrest of Jeffrey Epstein, the new McDelivery, UFO's spotte...d over the Grand Canyon, Big Little Lies, and more! FOOTNOTES:1. USWNT wins 2019 Women's World Cup: Breaking down USA soccer's record-setting run by the numbers2. DOJ Shakes Up Team Of Lawyers Representing Trump Admin In Census Case3. Financier Epstein pleads not guilty to U.S. sex trafficking charges involving girls4. Jeffrey Epstein Documents Could Expose Powerful Politicians, Businessmen5. Epstein Arrest Is a Worry for Donald Trump6. Malaysians are putting in weird requests for their McDeliveries. And McDonald's complies.7. Pilot films two circular objects flying over Grand Canyon sparking UFO conspiracy meltdown8. WATCH: Jorge Ben e Toquinho - Carolina Bela Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:16 Fuck Coke Industries and Fuck Fox News. It's Tuesday, July 9th, 2019. My name's Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. I Bring O'Brien Jack. Wow. Nailed it. That's courtesy of Hannah Soltis, and I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. In a western town with dead-end walls, with eastern boys and Miles Gray. And that's what we're doing.
Starting point is 00:02:46 Thank you also, As Salt As Hannah, for that one. What is that, Pet Shop Boys? Uh-huh. Yeah. Cool. Great song. Yeah, my interaction with that. I think that was like a latter day hit.
Starting point is 00:02:58 Yeah, it was the late 80s, right? But I'm saying, was that after their bulk of hits? I don't know. I just remember that. That's the first I had heard of the Pets. See, that's, I have the same memory
Starting point is 00:03:08 where I remember that as my first song and then my dad was like, this ain't their hits. And I'm like, okay, well, like, okay, dude who went to art school
Starting point is 00:03:15 in 80s. Right, right. Well, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by the hilarious and talented Tess Lynch.
Starting point is 00:03:23 Hi. What's up? What's up? Thanks for having me, guys. Oh, thanks for coming by. Thanks for talented Tess Lynch. Hi. What's up? What's up? Thanks for having me, guys. Oh, thanks for coming by. Thanks for being here. Y'all. Tess, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment.
Starting point is 00:03:32 First, we're going to run through a couple of the stories we're talking about today. We're going to talk about the fact that over the weekend, the U.S. women's national team won the World Cup and how the U.Ss fans felt about that in france very good uh we're gonna talk about southern california feeling like the center of the zeitgeist over the long weekend census thirst 2020 we're gonna talk about the census uh we are gonna say a fond goodbye to eric swalwell and of course we're gonna to talk about little Jeffrey Epstein. Crazy, crazy shit going on. Oh man. Please bring everything down. Yes, yes.
Starting point is 00:04:10 Please, everything. I know. From all sides. Bring it all fucking down. Yep, there's some nervous creeps out there right now. Yeah. Some nervous, very powerful sexual deviants. We're going to talk about Mick Delivery. We're going to talk about UFOs. We're going to talk about McDelivery. We're going to talk about UFOs.
Starting point is 00:04:25 We're going to talk about big little lies. Maybe. Wow. Some of that we might not get to. But first, Tess, we'd like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are? Okay. My search history, I had to look past a lot of bullshit, but I got to do bugs hallucinate.
Starting point is 00:04:41 Okay. Because I had recently been talking with some friends about a live science article that came out that talked about how cicadas eat a fungal hallucinogen that makes them have orgies and go crazy and then their butts fall off. And then their butts fall off. Yes. Their butts sometimes fall off, sometimes explode. So it's basically like taking mushrooms. It is a lot like, yeah. You have a fun orgy and then your butt falls off.
Starting point is 00:05:06 Your butt falls right off your butt. At least in my experience. The unfortunate thing about this though is that if you Google that, then you end up going into like tactile human, you know, hallucinations and that's not as fun. So you have to keep reframing it as only bugs hallucinating. Yeah. Very bad hallucination to have is bugs.
Starting point is 00:05:23 Yeah. It's very common hallucination. All over your skin, on the walls. Unsubscribe, no thank you. Unsubscribe, no thank you, cocaine. We're done, yeah. This seems like a topic that might happen on Science Corner of your podcast, Night Call. Night Call podcast.
Starting point is 00:05:41 Yeah, yeah. Back to back, Night Call host. I know. Yeah, Molly was just here where's your sheets your sheets is in new york she is just back from miami i have to call her in i know right so we can talk about qp mayonnaise oh yeah her favorite one of her favorite topics let's be real it's the god sauce it is the god sauce wait so do we know though do bugs hallucinate so in addition to the cicadas that are hallucinating there is also also, I believe, an ant gets kind of a fungal infection in its brain that basically amounts to mind control.
Starting point is 00:06:12 Oh, yes. We also covered that on Night Call. We have a whole bugs hallucinating corner that we revisit. I think it was on an episode of Creature Feature, too. Yeah. About zombie insects that basically through these bacteria are like, I will do your bidding. Exactly. Bacteria, fungus.
Starting point is 00:06:26 And then there's a whole subset of sea creatures who get taken over by different kinds of like smaller sea creatures, like parasites that invade their brains and then, you know, brainwash the creature to think that it's the parasite. Or from the Caribbean. Yeah. Yeah. In the case of Sebastian from Little Mermaid. Right. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:06:44 Very timely. Yeah. Yeah. Very timely case of Sebastian from Little Mermaid. Right. Exactly. Yes. Very timely. Yeah. Yeah. Very timely. Well, it is. Have they announced who's going to play Sebastian? I don't think so. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:52 God. Who could? What kind of person's going to do a weird, inauthentic accent? They're like, oh, yeah, I got that voice in the back. We bought some wokeness with the casting of Ariel. So now for Sebastian, we're going to go in a completely different way. It's Sean Paul. Oh, it should be Sean Paul.
Starting point is 00:07:07 Sean Paul. Wow. Jesus Christ. Sean Paul. What is something you think is overrated? So overrated cake with frosting. Okay. Disagree.
Starting point is 00:07:16 When people use the icing on the cake, I think they really mean gildingly. It's not. It shouldn't be. There should be no icing on cake. Icing on cake ruins the cake. So you like a dry cake? I like a dry cake. I also-
Starting point is 00:07:29 Like just two stacks of cake. Just stack my cake. Just stack the cakes up. I don't need glue for my cake. No, I think ice cream is a totally valid choice to have with cake. I think if you have an unfrosted cake and ice cream, that's kind of the holy grail. I also am fine with like a whipped cream, but the frosting, like a buttercream,
Starting point is 00:07:48 I think it's totally overrated. Or a fondant. Yeah, fondant's disgusting. Fondant is a crime. Fondant is like the hard congealed thing, right? It's just fucking skin. It's the thing you can peel off. Yeah, it's just to make cool shit.
Starting point is 00:08:00 I get that fondant cakes obviously look beautiful. Purely for sculpting reasons. They eat like shit. They do. I'm sorry. It's kind of like marzipan. Marzipan's okay. I like that fondant cakes obviously look beautiful. Purely for sculpting reasons. They eat like shit. They do. I'm sorry. It's kind of like marzipan. Marzipan's okay. I like marzipan though.
Starting point is 00:08:09 I like the flavor. I like that. I like a little bit, but have you ever had a cake that has like a giant hunk of marzipan, like an animal made out of marzipan and you try and kind of like deal with it? The second, see I'm the same way. Whenever there's too much non-cake substance, I'm like, mm-mm. No. Right.
Starting point is 00:08:24 No, sir. I ordered cake. Yeah. So in your mind, is a perfect cake like just a sheet cake, like a pancake with nothing on top of it?
Starting point is 00:08:31 I'm trying to picture in my mind how a cake with no frosting doesn't just look like a bunch of sponges stacked on each other. Well, I think that the ideal, I think we, as Americans, need to make a shift
Starting point is 00:08:41 toward dry cake with ice cream. Okay. And if you can't have ice cream. For the troops. Right? It's only right. You can have an ice box cake. The number one ideological change we need to make as Americans.
Starting point is 00:08:51 No fasting. Could you imagine that was really the key to it all? Ice cream in every bowl. Yeah, ice cream in every bowl, dry cake. Yeah, dry cake. Racism over. What about ice box cake becoming more of a thing? What is ice box cake?
Starting point is 00:09:03 Oh. Go on. What? You guys don't know what icebox cake is? I just have this icebox where my heart used to be. Apparently so. You take- Oh, Marion.
Starting point is 00:09:10 It's technically cookies that turn into cake when you add layers of whipped cream. So you do famous chocolate wafers is the classic, but you could also use Nilla wafers or crushed saltines and, or even, I guess not totally crushed, but kind of broken up saltines. You do a layer of that a layer of real whipped cream or cool whip if you're not in the mood to do yeah yeah there's the fuck it's the best thing ever what the fuck because it's just it's not so sweet it's so good and then it kind of turns soft it's so good yeah and I love fucking Nilla wafers yeah my god when I used to be in like daycare programs and shit and that that was like the snack, I was like, yes, this shit is like fucking man of some heaven.
Starting point is 00:09:46 It's a celebratory day. Yeah. Wow. I've never heard of this, and it's already based off the description, my favorite cake. I'm changing lives right now. Have you ever had a Buster Bar? Do you know what that is? No, what's a Buster Bar?
Starting point is 00:09:56 This might be like a regional thing, but it's basically like you put a layer of Oreos broken up thing. You have ice cream on top thing. You have like sort of caramel peanuts and stuff like that. That sounds great. That sounds like a Snickers ice cream bar. I like that. Homemade.
Starting point is 00:10:13 Homemade. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was a big thing. Or a Dirt Cup from Tony Romas. Dirt Cup. Yeah, I think that's what it is. I think it's similar. That has like Oreos and the-
Starting point is 00:10:23 Pudding and- And gummy worms. Gummy gummy worms and whipped cream sometimes. Which I never ate. No, because they're out of context. I don't like the fruit. I get it's a dirt cup. I was fine with just being dirt. Are you a sour candy or a chocolate candy?
Starting point is 00:10:36 Chocolate candy. Okay. Miles? Chocolate, baby. Yeah. Good. You know what time it is. You know what time it is, baby.
Starting point is 00:10:43 What is something you think is underrated? Okay. Well, based on recent events and recent conversations What is something you think is underrated? Okay. Well, based on recent events and recent conversations, I'm going to have to say air conditioning. Uh-huh. Is it underrated? I think air conditioning is underrated. Do you think air conditioning is sexist? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:55 Well, okay. Here's my thing. We need air conditioning, but we don't need it during the day unless the ambient temperature in a room is over 78 degrees. Thank you. I agree. That's like the only sane thing to do. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:08 For people who are like, it's got, I mean, I like it to be cold, but that's when I'm sweating. Right. I'm never just like, it needs to be cold all the time. It's so awful to be too cold. It's really true. Oh, yeah. It's so much better to be too hot than too cold.
Starting point is 00:11:23 Especially all the energy that's being used to, like, during the summer, make you too cold. I know. It's bizarre. This is uncomfortable in the wrong direction. It should hurt your skin. But I think it's underrated because it's necessary in Southern California in the summer to have. Oh, yeah, absolutely. But it's being overused.
Starting point is 00:11:41 But we shouldn't do away with it. So I'm going to say it's underrated because it's being attacked. Yeah, right. Not obviously because I think every office in America is overly air conditioned. Overly air conditioned. Because one of my last jobs, everyone had blankets in their office. Like I had two blankets I would wrap up in. And no one, it was so funny, none of us knew where the fucking thermostat was.
Starting point is 00:12:03 Really? We had no fucking clue. And we were like, can we do something? Because it's a distraction. It was behind your boss's desk, like Matt Lauer's little bunch. Yeah, right. Exactly. No, and then they were like, we have to talk to building management.
Starting point is 00:12:15 And there was another sub box. It was like a political thing. Yeah. Now, what is the argument that it is sexist? The argument that it's sexist is that there were studies conducted, I believe, that men perform better in colder environments, working environments, and women do not. Women perform better when it's slightly warmer. Okay. But I think a lot of this is because the dress code.
Starting point is 00:12:38 Yeah, the attire. Yeah. It's like men are kind of encouraged to wear more clothes. Like, not more clothes, but it's like, you're not going to wear shorts. Right. Like I'm wearing a three piece suit right now. Obviously. As you can tell.
Starting point is 00:12:49 With Uniqlo heat tech. Yes, exactly. But what about those little bracelets that I think it's called the ember. Have you guys seen this where it's a personal heating or cooling device? I did see an Instagram after this. Right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:00 It was funny. I was just in Italy, in Florence. Oh really? I didn't know that much. The ambient air temperature during the day reached around 105 degrees. Oh, wow. And I remember Her Majesty, my girlfriend, was like, yo, you should get that bracelet thing.
Starting point is 00:13:13 And I was like, that's bullshit. Cut to the second I have Wi-Fi, Instagram's like, did you mention that bracelet thing? Of course. And then I was like, no, I don't need this. This is the devil. But I hear, I mean, I don't know. It seems like it's based on science, because you've got a lot of blood flowing through,
Starting point is 00:13:29 like your arteries are. Yeah, like pulse. I mean, I always am kind of of the mind that nobody's really doing enough to make socks that can be freezing cold all day long. Because that really would affect a lot of change in your personal temperature. Also, neck.
Starting point is 00:13:44 They have the weird scarves with like a cooling gel thing, but I don't think they work that well. Yeah. That's why you need a real chunky scarf to hide some sort of large air conditioning unit in there. Exactly. I think that's what Lenny Kravitz has going on. My secret, I'm always hot. Always hot. Are you generally a sweaty person or?
Starting point is 00:14:06 I sweat, but I don't like to be too cold because I grew up on the East coast, but then I moved here when I was a teenager and it was, um, I was like, oh, I thought you just had to suffer through being freezing, freezing cold for long stretches of time. And when I was free from that, now I get now I start to panic when I get too cold. And especially in the car, if someone has the air conditioner blasting and you feel like it's too rude, you don't want to adjust it because you're not driving,
Starting point is 00:14:33 it's a terrible situation. Then I just sweat from panic. Hey, but you got rights as a passenger. Are you being kidnapped in this scenario? And the guy's speeding away. Hey, you turn the air conditioner down. The last thing I need in this situation
Starting point is 00:14:46 hey I got rights back here this is Miles' one Sylvester Stallone impression is this one line from Rocky 5 Rocky 5 I don't
Starting point is 00:14:54 hey don't I got rights he literally I can't and I'll tell this story over and over his solution in court a decision went against him
Starting point is 00:15:03 he was willing to accept the decision that the court gave. He came back around and just literally said, hey, don't I got rights or something? And they were like, okay, we'll listen. Is this true? Isn't that what he says? Yeah, Rocky V.
Starting point is 00:15:14 What was the thing of him in court? I think they were like, you lose all your money. Oh, right. And the answer was, don't I got rights? And they're like, go on, sir. Wait a second. I think he do got rights. Tess, what's a myth?
Starting point is 00:15:30 What's something people think is true you know to be false? Okay, so I think, I mean, at least among my friends, the prevailing wisdom is that ghosts are not real. I'm going to go ahead and say that I recently feel like maybe we're all wrong and that ghosts are real. Okay. Okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:46 What's making you feel like that? A friend showed me that her baby monitor had picked up apparitions. Okay. And it didn't just happen once. It happened a number of times and they just, I'll show you guys later. It looks like a person. No, show me right now. It's going to take a while.
Starting point is 00:16:03 Yeah, because it's deep, deep in the socials. But it's like a woman holding a child. It's like an outline, a heat outline. Oh, weird. It's so weird. And then it just kept happening. And then I went down this whole rabbit hole of other baby monitors picking up ghosts.
Starting point is 00:16:20 So I believe they're real, but you can only see them on baby monitors. Actually edit this out. And we need to start writing a script for a contained thriller that's all through baby monitor imagery. Oh, yeah. Oh, oh. Has that already been done yet? It must have already been.
Starting point is 00:16:32 I think that's a little hanging fruit. One of those paranormal activities has to be a lot of baby monitor activity, right? I don't know. Zeitgang, if you're a paranormal activity expert, let us know if we're already on well-trodden ground. Yeah. Paranormans out there. Paranormans. I think that you could make an entire movie that's just someone watching on a baby monitor as hands come grab the baby.
Starting point is 00:16:53 And it's like, you could just stretch that one moment out for two hours and watch it. And I'd probably cry. Just make it extreme slow motion. Extreme slow. Just react like expressionists. Just people's faces being like, no. It's the new train coming towards the camera. It's like, just go in the other room.
Starting point is 00:17:09 You're right next to the door. You can't make it inside. Just shaking, watching. Yeah. So did, okay, so this apparition was in fact, it looked like a woman holding a child. Yes. And then the physical IRL child was in manger?
Starting point is 00:17:22 So this is the thing. No, the child was not in, no, the child was not in the room. The child had just been taken out of the room. It was an empty... So that's the thing is some of these monitors... So the ghost thought somebody wasn't looking. Yeah. The ghost was like, wait a second.
Starting point is 00:17:34 They don't know about Wi-Fi. They're dumb, dude. Ghosts don't know. See? Yeah. That's the one thing we got on ghosts. We smarted. Wi-Fi.
Starting point is 00:17:41 We got a lot of things on ghosts, bro. We're getting served better ads. Yeah, I saw a ghost just defecating in the street, not even using a toilet. That's how far behind this ghost was. Right. It was like, toilet? I was like, alright. J.K. Rowling was lying. They can't just make their, I guess that's wizards,
Starting point is 00:17:58 but anyone with magic. Oh, wait, what is this? J.K. Rowling said that wizards back in the days used to just make their poop disappear as opposed to- As a trick or just as a convenience? As a convenience. Oh, okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:12 I thought it was like the centerpiece of their show, like, and for my next trick. No. Could you imagine, though, if you could shit your pants? Right. Wherever you wanted. Oh, I can. And then just reversed it and gone. Like, no muss, no fuss. Yeah. I you want it. And then just reversed it and gone. Like no muss,
Starting point is 00:18:26 no fuss. Yeah. I think the spell would have to have it disappearing as it passed the border of your asshole because otherwise it would get on your pants. Oh, so you set up a black hole by your asshole that you shit directly into the void. Right.
Starting point is 00:18:42 Wow. It's a parallel universe but only for that. Anyways, try that out, ghosts, who I know are listening. Set up a black hole by your asshole,
Starting point is 00:18:52 ghosts. It is really weird that baby monitors are like such a half-assed video, like closed circuit TV level quality of video. It's like black and white. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:05 Let's make it scary. It's like black and white. Oh, yeah. It's like... Let's make it scary. Let's watch your baby and make it scary. You're already terrified that something bad's going to happen to your baby. Why don't we just add
Starting point is 00:19:14 a layer of foreboding? And then they wake up and their eyes are glowing. Yeah. What the fuck? Yeah, no, exactly. And sometimes there's glitches where the baby appears
Starting point is 00:19:23 to be frozen and then the tape kind of speeds up. Have you ever? Yes. And then it does super fast zombie mode baby for a second while it goes down. Yeah, like that crawling baby. Oh my God. From the meme.
Starting point is 00:19:36 So that's the whole film. It's a contained thriller. Everyone's watching all this wild shit go down the baby monitor and it turns out they're high. Plot twist. Right. There you go. All right. Well, it sold itself. lion's gate yes uh all right guys let's talk about the women's world cup
Starting point is 00:19:52 u.s women's national team took it 2-0 over netherlands and yeah let's listen to Fox News covering the excitement. They're on the streets of France. Of Lyon. Have respect. Okay. Where Alex Morgan plies for trade. Okay. In the French League.
Starting point is 00:20:15 And yeah. They're just like, here's an expat's bar or something. Exactly. Americans are here in Lyon. They're stoked. And it's Fox News. And of course, think about the kinds of Americans who are like, I will travel to France to watch the Women's World Cup. I don't know how much MAGA overlap there is. But they saw that Fox mic flag and activated. sports bar in Lyon, France.
Starting point is 00:20:43 Listen to it. We were in a sports bar. We were going to be outside. We were going to be looking at a screen with a football game there. Dump truck, dump truck. They're really stoked about some dump truck. That would have been quick thinking on his part. If he was like, hey, they're chatting dump truck.
Starting point is 00:21:06 Dump truck enthusiasts. I've got some junk in the trunk, as you guys know. Truck dump. But you can tell he's like, his mind is just totally fucked. He's like, I, I, I. Exactly. And then partway through, he tried to like talk on the mic like this to maybe try and drown on the sound. It's like, no, they got you.
Starting point is 00:21:20 Have you ever done that when like your kids are around and like a song with bad words comes on and you're like, hey hey honey how are you doing like start talking over it that's what it reminded me of um your kids are like why did you always do this whenever we're listening to when we're listening to onyx a big fake sneeze also a nicely timed sneeze. Go on forever. Oh, my God. Your sneeze is so weird, Jeff. Her entire sneeze lasted the entirety of Pulp Fiction. Yeah. Record breaker.
Starting point is 00:21:54 Three hours sneezing. Yeah. Well, look, shout out to them. For me, it was a foregone conclusion that they would win this entire tournament. And I'm glad they did. I thought that, too. But watching the game, this was the first game I watched end to end. And it was like very,
Starting point is 00:22:09 I don't know. It was a nail biter. Took some time for the U.S. to score, but then, you know, it, all bets were off after,
Starting point is 00:22:16 after the first goal, after the penalty from Rapinoe. Cause then they scored what, like nine minutes later. And that was just too much. That, that last goal was kind of of a dagger i personally find women's soccer like more fun to watch i don't know if it's because the u.s is like winning all
Starting point is 00:22:33 these titles or something comparatively yeah but comparing to the uh men's world cup like even just like watching finals to finals i find women's soccer more entertaining. Is that a widely accepted take? I think it's widely accepted in this world that people believe the women's world. No, I think people who actually enjoy the sport can find it's just as enjoyable. They're tactically just as disciplined. just as enjoyable. It's just as, yeah, yeah. And they're tactically just as disciplined.
Starting point is 00:23:04 And like the skill of the players is like, it's, they're world class. They're world class. But like I find, and this is a thing I've heard other people say that like women's tennis is definitely more fun to watch than men's tennis because there's more volleys and there's like more. I'm not as engaged with women's tennis
Starting point is 00:23:22 or tennis in general to be able to say why it's better but for me just being a footy fan I can absolutely I like I like all I just don't like MLS right yeah because it's just trash and look I don't know people go hey man it's doing all right look I'm sorry this the concentration of skill is not in the MLS and talent it's all in Europe and every if you know shout out to every American playing their trade not in the ULS. In talent, it's all in Europe. And every, you know, shout out to every American playing their trade, not in the U.S., to bring back that skill
Starting point is 00:23:49 to put the U.S. on top. The one thing is, next World Cup, it'll be interesting because a lot of the stars this year are going to be a lot older. And a lot of, you know, if you go by off of how the,
Starting point is 00:23:59 like, U20 and U21 teams have been performing in, like, global tournaments, they haven't won a title since 2012. So a lot of people are like, well, where's the talent going to come from? I don't think that's necessarily that big of a deal because it's not always an accurate depiction of where the country is going to be because things get hot real quick.
Starting point is 00:24:19 But I would still bet on the U.S. women's team. Rapinoe is 34? Yeah. 34, 35. Yeah, 34, I think. We'll the U.S. women's team. Rapinoe is 34? Yeah. 34, 35. Yeah, 34, I think. We'll be 35 this year. So, you know, we'll have some people out there. She's a fucking baller, dog.
Starting point is 00:24:31 Dude, Carly Lloyd, who knows? She'll come back still. Fuck with me. All right, we're going to take a quick break. We'll be right back. Daphne Caruana Galizia was a Maltese investigative journalist who on October 16, 2017, was murdered. There are crooks everywhere you look now.
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Starting point is 00:26:30 Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil.
Starting point is 00:26:56 I ain't really near them boys. I just come here to play basketball every single day, and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is unapologetically Black. I love her. What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game?
Starting point is 00:27:15 And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better. This new season will cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture.
Starting point is 00:27:44 Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really in here. I'm just come here to play basketball every single day, and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports.
Starting point is 00:28:05 Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is braggadocious. She is unapologetically black. I love her. What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game? And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better.
Starting point is 00:28:26 Listen to the making of a rivalry, Caitlin Clark versus Angel Reese on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. And you guys, over the long weekend, I don't know about you guys,
Starting point is 00:28:48 but it seemed like Southern California was sort of like people who live in Los Angeles. We always think the world revolves around us. But this long weekend felt like it really did. There were the two earthquakes. And then Kawhi Leonard announced a surprise decision that he was going to the Clippers and bringing Paul George, which immediately made them the NBA Finals favorites or the NBA favorites.
Starting point is 00:29:16 Were you guys getting a lot of concerned calls from friends and family? I did. The problem was I was in the wilds of Oregon over the weekend, and I had no cellular data access of any kind. Even in the place I was staying, there wasn't a camp house where there was a computer. So the day I emerged from nature,
Starting point is 00:29:39 shit just came in. I was like, what the fuck happened? And I really, every person who came into this camp, I was like, did you hear anything about every person who came into this camp i was like did you hear anything about kawaii they're like dude no i don't even want to fuck you're talking prospector on the edge of town just being like hey you heard anything what's happening is there leonard in those hills um and no uh but i did yeah my mother who's in italy she was like unrelated yeah right um she was like fine i'll go she right. She was like, fine, I'll go.
Starting point is 00:30:05 She was like, I'll go. I'll get you to stop talking about it. She was like, please, I'll leave you alone. She was like very concerned for her possums and cats. But it definitely did seem like a lot of the focus was on this little state of ours. Wait, your mom was concerned about possums? Yes, she loves possums. She has possums that she feeds in her backyard.
Starting point is 00:30:25 That's amazing. Yes, she's possums. She has possums that she feeds in her backyard. That's amazing. Yes, she's a big possum supporter, advocate. She's a card-carrying member of the United States Opossum Society. Really? Yes. How does she feel about possums? I'm sorry, I'm taking this. No, this is important. This is mostly what the podcast is.
Starting point is 00:30:40 How does she feel about possums on leashes? Which I have seen only in the past i saw molly post about the dude with the possum on the leash i showed my mom that and she was like she's like that's that would be very difficult to do normally right because aren't they so afraid that they get like i thought they were paralyzed very easily by fear and bright lights and I'm confused. Playing possum, which means to be paralyzed whenever you see bright lights. Yeah. In my experience. So how would you walk them around?
Starting point is 00:31:12 That's just a very brave person who may be just forcing the possum to do shit. Very brave one. Possum. That makes me really upset. Free the possum. Yeah, exactly. Let them fucking roam free. Look, if you want to invite them in the house, invite them in the house.
Starting point is 00:31:23 Don't keep them there. Yeah. Right. Let them have some agency. Also, maybe don't invite them in the house. Don't keep them there. Yeah. Right. Let them have some agency. Also, maybe don't invite them in the house. Yeah, maybe don't. They're fine. They don't have rabies.
Starting point is 00:31:29 Why? What's your concern? They can't have rabies. They don't have rabies. Okay. My bad. What's... Find a new angle, bro.
Starting point is 00:31:35 These opossums are clean. That's what my mom always says. They make a mess eating your trash. Yes. That's the issue with opossums. Yeah. Or is it opossums? Opossums.
Starting point is 00:31:43 Opossums. I think in North Americaica they're opossum okay just checking i don't know possums i gang will get on me because every time i say they're like they're like actually it's actually and i'm like you can actually that possum splaining yeah yeah uh let's talk about the 2020 census guys yeah let's talk about it okay so we already know the human dry scab and commerce secretary wilbur Ross was leading the charge to get a citizenship question added to the census in 2020. And most sane people who understand how the census works are like, we know what you're trying to do. Because if they're A, want to intimidate people
Starting point is 00:32:18 from not responding if they aren't a citizen, which would then affect the numbers that affect federal dollars, representation in government, how you can redistrict and things like that. So a lot of people like, no, this is a game to try and further entrench Republican power by any fucking means necessary. And a lot of people, too, were saying, like, despite what the Customs and Border Patrol or Homeland Security were saying, a lot of people were like they could weaponize this information to begin rounding up people who answered no to the citizenship question. So everything about it seemed unnecessary. And then, you know, apparently, or like, I think a few weeks ago, not I think, a few weeks ago, the Supreme Court upheld like a lower court decision that was basically saying, yo, you are not including the citizenship question at all.
Starting point is 00:33:05 And then the DOJ was like, okay, we get it. You know, we're going to have the census printed without the citizenship question because we aren't going to defy the fucking courts. Right. And they would be like, okay, and essentially saying like, okay, Trump understands. We're taking the L on the citizenship question. Let's keep it moving. Suddenly, a group of DOJ lawyers that were arguing on behalf of the administration up and vanished. And the DOJ was like, oh, we've got new lawyers on this who are like a mishmash of like political appointees and like career DOJ people.
Starting point is 00:33:53 But really, it's just like it sounds like William Barr just needs someone, another team of people to try and argue for like this just so blatantly illegal move on the on behalf of the administration. And so a lot of people are saying, like, especially like in DOJ, like, no, these people quit because they don't want to keep arguing like the quote unquote facts when in an instant Trump can just be like, no, we're going to actually add the citizenship question despite what, you know, the Supreme court says. And a lot of career lawyers were like, I don't want to put my name on this shit and keep arguing that like, you know, one of the big things was the administration kept saying,
Starting point is 00:34:18 well, we need, we need this to get to the Supreme court quickly because they thought the Supreme court was going to be like, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:34:23 All good. Citizenship question. And they're saying, and we need it to be expedited because the things have to be printed by June 30th. We have to begin the printing process by June 30th. And then suddenly when they don't get the answer they want, suddenly it's like, oh, well maybe it can be October 31st maybe. So there's just an unwillingness to let this die, even though it should. and everything has pointed to the fact that you know this is all because there was a pollster and this dude who was like who was
Starting point is 00:34:50 passed away who was sort of like in his expert opinion he's like this is like one of the one last moves the republicans can do that will quote benefit whites and non-hispanic whites in this country in terms of representation yeah and then trump was like said like oh we need it for districting it's like oh you just were saying it wasn't in court, whatever. And that's why the lawyers are like, I can't do this anymore. Yeah. It just seems like he's going to blatantly hold it hostage until like hold the entire census hostage because it's more of a norm. Like there's not like some hard deadline that says when the census has to be out, it's more of a norm. So he could just well, it does have to be given. Yeah. It's just of a norm. So he could just hold it until they give him a thing.
Starting point is 00:35:25 It's just the thing where is he going to defy the Supreme Court? Yeah. And like what is that now? What are we doing here? Right. When we have the president's like, I don't care what the Supreme Court does. I'm doing this. So we shall see.
Starting point is 00:35:40 But I think really it's more just a reason for Trump to keep some kind of culture war battle brewing. Yeah. So his base is like, yeah, man, the fucking city, you know, because we got to know who is and who isn't or whatever logic they use. But, you know, most a lot of polling shows that around like 65 percent of Americans don't have an issue with a citizenship question being asked. Really? So, you know, that is like a sort of a little bit of overlap of people outside of his base who who aren't totally opposed to the citizenship question being asked. Really? So, you know, that is like a sort of little bit of overlap of people outside of his base who aren't totally opposed to the citizenship question. Wait, what percent?
Starting point is 00:36:10 Like almost two thirds. What? Yeah. Wow. But I think they're not seeing- Because they don't know. I think they're just being asked. It's like, yeah, on a census,
Starting point is 00:36:17 should we know if you're a thing? Rather than like- Right, right. Yeah, because then we can start like nickel and diming districts or cities that have a lot of immigrants or undocumented people there. And then we can sort of chip away at their influence in politics. And yeah,
Starting point is 00:36:29 I mean, this should have been a layup for them because you can just play dumb and be like, what? We just want to know. Uh, but there was that person who like constructed the entire strategy for them to like basically disenfranchise immigrants.
Starting point is 00:36:48 And, uh, they found his hard drive after he died and yeah that's the whole reason that uh i think the supreme court like the supreme court was like no your your logic doesn't make as much sense as this thing that you're clearly doing yeah just laid out the agenda so clearly yeah exactly he was the guy who came up with the agenda thomas hoffler yeah this is the this is important. Yeah, exactly. He was the guy who came up with the agenda. Thomas Hoffler. This is important for us to do. And he was just looking. He's like, okay, if we do this one thing, can we just begin redistricting and shifting power to the places where good old white-blooded Americans are? And then his estranged daughter, after he died, found his hard drive and turned it over to the media so shout
Starting point is 00:37:26 out to her yeah shout out to her indeed let's talk about little jeffrey epstein oh my god you guys uh so yeah this is just your monthly reminder that carcosa is real if you watch the first season of true detective there's no like monster guy out in the woods boogeymanning his way through the local population. It's actually the rich politicians from the video in the second to last episode. But yeah, some extremely rich people are using their power to systematically abuse and brutalize vulnerable children. While I was researching for this article, vulnerable children. While I was researching for this article,
Starting point is 00:38:06 I learned that Eyes Wide Shut is supposedly based on real experiences that Stanley Kubrick had once he was adopted into the higher, upper echelons of society. That's just a rumor. I like that rumor. I just feel like this is a little...
Starting point is 00:38:22 Powerful masked fuzz parties. I feel like this is a little pinhole into the world of people who are just completely insulated from the consequences of their decisions by being rich. that Robert Evans talked about on Behind the Bastards, that people have done studies about the extremely wealthy and how their thinking differs from the rest of us. And because they've been isolated from the consequences of their decisions for so long, they basically have the equivalent of a brain injury. They just can't think like the rest of us.
Starting point is 00:39:02 Oh, right. Their impulse control is just totally fucked. Because they can't see the sequence of events afterwards. Like when I do the thing I like and then I'm happy and nothing happens and people shut the fuck up. I cut a check. That is fascinating. Yeah. I had never heard that.
Starting point is 00:39:14 Yeah, I hadn't either. I mean, that makes total sense when you see how people like this operate. The neural pathways between cause and effect for your own actions just never get made. Yeah, they don't get made after, like, it can both be if you're born rich, like the president, or if you're, you know, become extremely rich, and then for two decades, like, you never have any, you never face any consequences like those neural pathways can atrophy. Like cutting line at the Duomo in Florence to see it in person. Yes.
Starting point is 00:39:45 No consequences. I'm afraid I might be heading down that path. That's the only way you can associate with the common man. My experience is in Florence. You've been changed. And obviously we're laughing during
Starting point is 00:40:01 the course of a story that is not funny. Okay, yeah. Thanks for killing my joke of a story that is not funny. Okay, yeah. Thanks for killing my joke. No, sorry. No, that's not you. No, that's me. No, and that's my, I'm seeing, I'm lacking the cause and effect of my bad jokes. That's what podcasts do, actually.
Starting point is 00:40:21 They said that comedy podcasters have fucked up neural pathways because we can't tell if our jokes are funny or not because nobody's there to laugh. Yeah, that's true. The void. Yeah. All right. Sorry, back to the really dark story. Yes. So, yeah, serial child rapist Jeffrey Epstein is getting charged with sex trafficking,
Starting point is 00:40:36 which is what he's been kind of doing out in the open for decades now. The New York district attorney is coming for him. The federal government is coming for him. They're holding him in, I forget what the name of the facility is. They're doing tougher than Guantanamo. A dude who was held there and then taken to Guantanamo was like, take me to Guantanamo. Yes, I will do Guantanamo over this any day. So that's great.
Starting point is 00:41:04 But it's obviously just a very small sliver of the hell he's put other people and families through. So the way the mainstream media is covering this, at least the main New York Times story and the Washington Post story, they're covering it in a pretty straightforward way. pretty straightforward way. Like he's a convicted pedophile and he is now like it had long been rumored that there was, you know, sex trafficking and, you know, very like meat and potatoes, the exact what is happening. But this is one of those stories where I feel like journalistic methods and sort of unwillingness to connect the dots for people reading the reporting makes it fall short a little bit. And there are articles that are doing that, but I just feel like the very straightforward reporting of it, you miss some of the texture.
Starting point is 00:41:54 So the articles mention that he was a convicted child sexual abuser, that he's associated with powerful friends, and that he's charged in another case that's under scrutiny for being too lenient. But the things they don't mention that seem like they should be mentioned in every article, first of all, Trump's quote about him saying, he's a great guy who likes girls as much as me. Some say very young girls or something like that. It's really creepy and yucking it up about the fact that this guy is a pedophile
Starting point is 00:42:21 and that they're good friends um right which he now claims he doesn't know him at all um he has a plane known to locals at uh so he owns an island first of all which is supposedly not skull shaped but it's known as it's like off of saint john it used to be known as uh little saint john but then they changed it to Little St. Jeffrey because he owns it. Well, that's what it was like unofficially called. Oh, okay, okay. And the locals who work on that island call his plane the Lolita Express because he's always bringing underage women down. And there's credible reporting suggesting that he had powerful people travel and have sex with underage women on the Lolita Express.
Starting point is 00:43:06 Big one, Bill Clinton flew on that plane many, many times, sometimes explicitly without his Secret Service present, which is fairly uncommon, I would imagine. Trump flew on it once. And this is a big one. One of the women who said he forced her to have sex with powerful men said he asked for details and confided in her that he likes to get these people in his pocket by getting horrifying information about them doing, you know, horrible, sexually exploitative things. So he's having the young women that he hired basically come back to him with anecdotes that he can use to. And there's also allegedly hidden cameras of them doing it. So he's, so this is, this is what's weird because,
Starting point is 00:43:50 and I feel like more attention should be paid to this. Cause I haven't seen this theory put out there that much other than by us and Evans is that nobody knows how he made his money. Right. He's like a Gatsby guy, right? He's a Gatsby guy who like people are like teacher He's a math teacher or something? He was a math teacher who got brought over to Bear Stearns
Starting point is 00:44:07 by the head of Bear Stearns whose kid he taught. And he was like the, you know, Robin Williams from Dead Poets Society of Math. Like he just got kids psyched about math and this guy heard him give one of his... Sorry, that just sounds so weird. This guy heard him give one of his lectures and was like, you gotta
Starting point is 00:44:24 come over to Bear Stearns. So he was at Bear Stearns for four years. He started as like a desk assistant, worked his way up to being partner. But the day after he was made partner, he was forced to leave because of insider trading. He claims that the way he made his billions is through just managing the money of billionaires. And he claimed like people would come to him with $800 million and be like, please sir manage my money. And he'd be like, get the fuck out of my office. I only deal with
Starting point is 00:44:50 billionaires. And he claims that that made him exclusive and that's why everybody wanted to work with him. But he won't divulge any of his clients. Right. So which is weird. You'd think you would do that to be like, I have the trust of X, Y y and z which
Starting point is 00:45:05 makes me a bona fide uh creep yeah so it's just weird and then he like gets all this money he owns the biggest house in manhattan like it's like a seven-story brownstone that is basically an entire city block so we don't know exactly how much money he has also but he lives like he i mean he owns a fucking island yeah and he has i think more than one plane too yes so forbes wrote an article that was like here's why he's not a billionaire which who gives a shit he's very wealthy we don't know how he became very wealthy but one thing we do know is that he blackmails very powerful people with tapes of them doing like incriminating sexual acts so that probably helps him in some negotiations i'd imagine yeah um and
Starting point is 00:45:52 then i think the biggest undersight or oversight from these articles or the thing they don't get into enough detail about is how shady the previous case was where he was, had to admit to being a pedophile and, you know, register as a sex offender in Florida. Some of the details of that, they went out of their way. So his lawyers worked with the DA in Florida, in his district to get him like the sort of deal you give somebody.
Starting point is 00:46:22 If they're giving you the names of like you know this crime boss you're trying to take down except the deal was that he wouldn't give any names and that they weren't allowed to prosecute anybody who his case implicated so basically it was all there was no it was a shut the fuck up deal right Right. There was no transaction there. It was like, okay, we give you the best deal possible, given the circumstances of your crimes, even better than the law would suggest is possible, and in exchange, nothing. Right.
Starting point is 00:46:58 So they went out of their way to not tell the victims about the settlement, which is illegal, because they knew the victims. And that's the DA. Like, that's the people who are supposed to be prosecuting him going out of their way. Right. They violated victims' rights laws. They completely violated.
Starting point is 00:47:12 Like I said, they gave him a sweetheart deal in exchange for him not naming names. And he asked for and received the right to never have the people in the case pursued. Alexander Acosta, current Trump labor secretary, was the person who oversaw the entire deal. And yeah, technically, labor oversees federal sex trafficking cases. So stay tuned there, I guess. Yeah. But a lot of this shit is coming to the forefront at the same time. Like a circuit judge last week demanded over 160 documents from a previously sealed case about epstein's sexual abuse be
Starting point is 00:47:47 unsealed and there's a very good chance they contain names of like powerful people and the judge specifically said like the reasoning for unsealing this is the public knowing about what happened in these files uh outweighs the benefit of protecting, you know, the names. Yeah. I mean, especially when you look at that deal, because, like, even the co-conspirators had immunity. It's like, what? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:14 How? And then you're like, who the fuck is implicated in this? Where somehow, even, like, when he had to serve, they're like, well, he served 13 months in prison. He had, like, the wildest work release. Yeah, yeah. I think he was able to be they're like, well, he served 13 months in prison. He had like the wildest work release. Yeah, yeah. I think he was able to be out like six days a week or something. Yeah, he was out six days a week.
Starting point is 00:48:31 Okay, that hardly seems like any kind of jail sentence. It's nothing. I know. It was really astounding to read about this stuff today. I actually had to like tear myself away from it to come on here because first of all one thing that I found really interesting about the response to it is how there's so it's almost like people are trying to weaponize it on both sides of the political aisle as if anyone would be like oh no but you can't get Bill Clinton like without thinking of the victims at all it's so clearly not a politically divisive topic but
Starting point is 00:49:02 it seems as though there's this huge paranoia that it's going to like break everything apart. And it's like, well, the only, you know, if whoever was on that plane and like whatever evidence there is, like clearly everyone should be irate about that. Nobody's going to be like,
Starting point is 00:49:17 but Bill Clinton, it's like, come on, you know? Although there are people on the left and the right who are like thinking it's only going to benefit one side. Exactly. Yeah, bring Clinton down or like, yeah, bring down whoever.
Starting point is 00:49:27 It's like, dude, bring them all fucking down. Bring them all down. What the fuck are you talking about? I know. And when you look at just sort of this is the exact kind of shit that makes America so despicable when it comes to the legal system is that this is like on full display of like, well, if you're up in this certain income bracket, you can just completely sidestep the law and like completely violate victims rights and protect people who are probably all monsters. Yeah. And I really hope if there are very powerful people implicated in this, that we bring all of this shit out to the light and people can begin the reckoning there. reckoning there uh because i don't think even if there were people on the left as there were on the right who were involved in this that needs to be known because just as a you know humans as a
Starting point is 00:50:10 society we're like uh well what team are they on right it's like no no no this is fucked up like let's fucking tear this shit down also the fact that this has been kind of known or rumored but really known for so long and still not dealt with has fueled so much paranoia. And then reading this, you're like, well, yeah, maybe I should be super paranoid because these rumors were showing up in blind items for years and were totally valid. They were true stories, but somehow managed to always be framed as gossip when it's criminal. Yeah. Shout out to the uh julie brown from the miami herald who is the one who basically you know what after this case was settled and there
Starting point is 00:50:52 wasn't really like a cause for the police even though the police were like we're trying we have all this fucking evidence and the district attorney is just not like answering our fucking literally said they didn't know him yeah i don't know i don't know him uh so julie brown a reporter for the miami herald basically brought this back up and did this huge like a horrible read but it's really well written uh miami herald investigative report on where she went back talked to the victims talked like, found a bunch more victims because he was just basically trolling local public schools for children with, like, bad backgrounds and, you know, who didn't have parents who would press charges.
Starting point is 00:51:35 So, you know, she was able to put together, I think, 60, over 60 names of victims. Well, I think it'll get interesting because, you know, they said there were, like, three people that worked with him that are are like, they're involved. I think they're unnamed in this indictment, but you can guarantee those people are cooperating now. Oh yeah. Right. Spilling whatever they have on like what they saw or did during this time. And when you look at also too, when the FBI raided his house, they found like a lot of explicit images too of like adults and children that then it's like, now you're adding charges that first, if he's just looking at raided his house they found like a lot of explicit images too of like adults and children yeah right then it's like now you're adding charges that first if he's just looking at trafficking and
Starting point is 00:52:09 now it's like are you manufacturing child porn right and that's that one is i mean you're effectively gone for life and then what is what so what's jeffrey epstein gonna do is he gonna be tough and not say shit the person who possibly his whole background is built on like holding people's secrets against them that might be his swan song be like okay yeah i'm gonna take the whole thing out i mean if he can't get out of this i wonder if he has like a dead man switch type thing where once he's taken out of the equation all these like all the blackmail material goes out to places because wow you know that is interesting well i that's the only way he remains not killed by a bunch of really powerful people if he's blackmailing them.
Starting point is 00:52:48 Right, it's like, the second I don't enter this text message, all this stuff goes to whatever. Interesting times. Yeah, and I hope again, too, we'll see really how the president feels, too, if he's going to pardon Jeffrey Epstein. Oh, Jesus Christ. You know what I mean? That's what I'm saying. You know if he is he going to pardon Jeffrey Epstein oh Jesus Christ you know what I mean
Starting point is 00:53:05 like what kind of that's what I'm saying you know what the fuck is going on yeah alright we're going to take a quick break we'll be right back
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Starting point is 00:55:10 I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really near them.
Starting point is 00:55:30 Why is that? I just come here to play basketball every single day, and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is unapologetically black. I love her. What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been
Starting point is 00:55:47 so good for the game? And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better. This new season will cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio app,
Starting point is 00:56:04 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really hear them. Why is that?
Starting point is 00:56:30 I just come here to play basketball every single day, and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is braggadocious. She is unapologetically Black. I love her. What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game?
Starting point is 00:56:51 And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better. Listen to The Making of a Rivalry, Caitlin Clark vs. Angel Reese on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. And have you guys done McDonald's delivery? Yep. You have?
Starting point is 00:57:20 Yep. I never have. I have no shame. How'd it work out for you? Don't order fries. See, that's my thing. The fries are the whole reason that I would ever go to McDonald's, and they don't last more than like five, ten minutes.
Starting point is 00:57:34 Five, ten seconds. Honestly. Actually, the only time I do it is for breakfast. Right. Because I'll be like in a death hangover, and I'll just be like, summon the McMuffins. I guess the hash browns last a little longer. Because at least they're a solid brick. Right. Because I'll be like in a death hangover. Yeah. And I'll just be like, summon the McMuffins. I guess the hash browns last a little longer. Because at least they're a solid brick.
Starting point is 00:57:49 Right. You know what I mean? And the hash brown is better than a bunch of little sticks. I feel like the weight or the heat distribution is much better in the hash brown. But yes, I have done McDelivery. So it was trending yesterday. I guess in Thailand, people are requesting cute stuff like, take a selfie with me making a funny face like in the delivery instructions
Starting point is 00:58:10 or give me the most chili pepper in Thailand, which they gave them 1,000 chili pepper packets. One dude was like, give me a free apple pie because I'm broke and love apple pies, and they just gave him a free apple pie. What? So it's cool. I do worry. The other story when you Google, like, McDelivery,
Starting point is 00:58:33 the other story is, like, earlier in the year, McDonald's being like, we're going all in on the marketing for McDelivery. So this could be a manufactured thing. Even seeding fucking fake viral shit? Yeah, or maybe they're creating viral moments by doing awesome stuff for people. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:58:49 Which would be all right. Put yourself in the mindset of someone asking for one of these things. The broke one I get. Right. Because asking for free shit is a time-honored tradition. Right. But the, hey, take a selfie with me making a funny face. That makes me sad.
Starting point is 00:59:03 But I'm also like. It's just something really depressing. Is that somebody real? I guess in my mind, I don't want to entertain the idea of that hellscape where someone's like, take a funny selfie with me. Please take a picture with me.
Starting point is 00:59:12 But a funny face. Yeah. Not a regular smile. And then the picture of the delivery person is not making a funny face. It's only the person. Did it look like someone who is doing, working in the gig economy
Starting point is 00:59:22 and is like, I didn't sign up for this shit? No, they're not. They're smiling. Oh. They're just like. They're just professional. Yeah. They're too professional gig economy and is like, I didn't sign up for this shit? No, they're not. They're smiling. Oh. They're just like- They're just professional. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:28 They're too professional. I'll be like, go fuck you and your selfie, bro. Take your fucking cold fries and let me go on. And don't fucking forget to tip, asshole. Yeah. Always tip. In America, the McDelivery is a partnership with Uber Eats. Uber Eats.
Starting point is 00:59:42 And they're giving it away for free right now, I think. But that just means you should tip the shit out of your Uber Eats delivery person. Tip everybody. If you could tip in anywhere, if someone has a tip jar out,
Starting point is 00:59:53 you tip them. Even if they don't be like, you take tip? Right. I tip at Subway. Yeah. You have to tip. When I was waitressing,
Starting point is 01:00:00 a huge party came in and they ordered like, I feel like I may have told this story a thousand times on podcasts but it's the tip PSA they ordered so much food and then they skipped out on their bill and I had to pay it
Starting point is 01:00:12 out of my money that I'd made what fucking restaurant was this? shame them it was TGI Friday god mother fucker are you fucking kidding me? no it was in Massachusetts
Starting point is 01:00:23 you were supposed to like stop them from leaving? I guess so. Yeah. And I was a novice waitress. It was like a summer job. Server. It wasn't great.
Starting point is 01:00:31 Yeah, server. I was more used to the counter service than the bringing food service. Than being also like in loss prevention? Exactly. Yeah. No, and I mean, it was, look, like it was summer. It was sweaty. It was really easy to just be like, I'm just going to speed away from the floor and hide in the back room. And then I was like, poof, they were gone.
Starting point is 01:00:51 And it was a huge group of people. And they ordered a ton of food. And then I cried. But you make like $2 an hour. So it's all tips. You basically are working for free for like two weeks. Exactly. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:04 It was a mess. Sucks. So anyway, always tip because there may be a situation like that. Right. Yeah. Well, Tess, I wanted to bring in this quick story because it feels like it's part of your beat as one of the hosts of Night Call. There is more UFO footage this time, UFOs and videos flying over the Grand Canyon. How have you guys been dealing with the fact that there's this footage?
Starting point is 01:01:31 It looks like two little white Tic Tacs flying in formation, which puts it in line with a lot of other footage from pilots of Tic Tac looking things. They always look like Tic Tacs. Yeah. It's weird. Yeah. Tic Tac 2020. Sky Tic Tac 2020. Sky Tic-tac 2020 yeah for president um but what how are you guys dealing well something that we have been talking a lot about on the podcast is how nobody cares about the ufos which is really curious
Starting point is 01:01:59 to me because thinking back five or ten years this would have been everyone would have been like well we have to figure it out right and it seems it just these this information drops it'll be in the new york times it's in mainstream media publications and people are like huh weird well moving on i mean it's and i guess it makes sense we have kind of enough on our plates and it's also it seems insane that aliens would choose now of all times to show up. I mean, maybe they're concerned. They could hopefully, please help us. It's really bad here.
Starting point is 01:02:30 And we just nuke them out of the sky. They're like, we brought you the secret to clean energy. Get the fuck out of here. Go away. But yeah, I mean, it's, I think a lot of what we talk about on the podcast just has to do with the fact that there's no one, there's no kind of curiosity like there used to be about getting to the bottom of this right it's just kind of noted and then yeah discarded information yeah um and the fact that a lot of these sources have been very credible and a lot of the reports of what's been seen just totally match up and it's you know right it's just really it's like this came off of a fucking Navy jet. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:03:05 Right there. And you're hearing the pilots seem like, what the fuck am I looking at? People in the Pentagon are like, yeah, we don't know. It's not just like a couple who own a lot of like parrots and ferrets in the desert. Selling beef jerky on the roadside. It's like, yeah, man, they took me. They took me. But yeah, I mean, it definitely kind of opens bigger questions about what we should be paying attention to and what we should not necessarily i don't think it's
Starting point is 01:03:29 necessarily true that we need to right now be paying a lot of attention to ufo sightings because i still think that there are lots of good explanations that are not extraterrestrial about what these things might be oh give me one what's good one? For a thing that is flying and defying the laws of physics, is it that another country has technology we're so behind on? Well, that's what I wonder. I mean, that's definitely one possibility. I only believe that scenario or it's aliens. Really?
Starting point is 01:03:56 Because I would believe that somehow, just like in the arrogance of the United States military, like some whole other shit just flew under their radar. And they're like, the pun was intended. And they're like, damn, we fucked that one up. We should have gave that that scientist a meeting. Yeah, I mean, it's true. It also is, you know, when you think about in context of stuff like the Jeffrey Epstein
Starting point is 01:04:16 case and everything, there's so much it's so easy to become deeply, deeply paranoid about things that are being covered up or sealed or, you know, kept from you. And then when you see these things, the fact that there could be possibilities that we don't even know about because they're, I mean, it could be an operation done by our own government that's just being badly presented, you know? They're like, oh, guys, you should fly away from like big monuments. Right? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:42 Like, oh, seen in Times Square. Use the invisible tic-tacs time the invisible orbs um but yeah i mean it's just it's it's important i think to remain curious about these kind of things and to not totally dismiss them no i i do sort of i wonder if there is something to like we just don't have the bandwidth like psychologically emotionally right now to be like okay on top on top of this, fucking aliens. Right. Exactly. I mean, okay, I will accept that that happened,
Starting point is 01:05:11 but I need to keep rocking because I have bills to pay. The other big revelation to me from this most recent sort of spate of sightings is like I guess the theory was always among thefo tracking societies that the government was covering something up and it seems more like the military's like what the fuck yeah yeah are you guys covering something and now they're like opening it up to public like scrutiny just to be like does anybody have we're crowdsourcing any ideas what's going on here? Yeah, they've been stonewalled. And I mean, even the way that the media kind of covers it kind of lacks that hunger to figure it out. The fact that these things appear without more kind of in-depth, almost like rogue reporting is interesting to me as well. I guess it's just because you assume that if you take the position that they're definitely extraterrestrial and you're going to get to the bottom of it, it's really easy to be dismissed as a crackpot.
Starting point is 01:06:07 Right. Which, fair. But, you know, at the same time, the fact that this year alone there have been how many credible reports? Like, it's been in the mainstream news more than in previous years. Yeah. And, you know, there are just all sorts of weird things that are like, yeah, if this was real, that is what would happen. Like a whole rash of sightings like in the same place, like at the same time. And then they stop happening there. Like once people start reporting them and like changing their behavior. It's just very, very interesting times. Very, very interesting times.
Starting point is 01:06:46 Like part of me thinks this is the only story we should ever cover, that we should just be a UFO podcast from now on. Do it. It feels so good. That and Big Feet. Yes, that and Big Foot. Big Feet. Or a trample. I think someone on Twitter was like, a group of Big Foots is a trample. It's called a trample.
Starting point is 01:06:59 Yeah. But I'm like, I don't know. Do you know them? Do you know that's what they like? That's how they prefer to be referred to? That's their preferred. Yeah, they're like group designation. I prefer the big feets.
Starting point is 01:07:11 I think big feets is less violent. I wouldn't want a group of me to be called a trample. See, exactly. And then I would be on the defensive. A trample of test lynches. Yeah, a trample of tests. You start reaching for your pistol because you hear a trample is coming.
Starting point is 01:07:22 Like, hey, a couple of big feets are on their way down. I'm like, hmm, okay, let's see. They like lemonade? And finally, I want to talk about big little lies, guys. I feel like your former boss, Bill Simmons at The Ringer, is like trying to make this like the next Game of Thrones. They have like big little live or something where it's like the live take like live reactions big little lies and the coverage of it tends to be like really breathless and then
Starting point is 01:07:54 we kind of asked you Tess what your thoughts were oh god and I this is like at least half of the people I talked to are like yeah I, I don't know, man. I couldn't couldn't do it this year. Right. Weirdly, I view it as a personal failing because there's no reason why I shouldn't be able to get with it and just stick with it. The mess. How hard can it be? But after the first episode, I was like, I would rather watch literally anything than this show.
Starting point is 01:08:21 anything than this show. And I also talked to you guys earlier about the fact that I read a fringe conspiracy theory that everyone's wearing a wig. And then I just couldn't unsee it. And it drove me insane because it's all I could focus on. And I feel like
Starting point is 01:08:38 the way that they're styled is strange. So I, like, you brought up True Detective. I go into True Detective mode where I'm like, what are they trying to say with those fake teeth? Like, what does it mean? What does it mean? It's not that kind of show.
Starting point is 01:08:50 It's not, it doesn't mean anything. Yeah. Like at the end, they all take their wigs off. Yeah, exactly. The big reveal.
Starting point is 01:08:56 The wig reveal, wig little lies. Did you see, uh, the story about the Island of Dr. Moreau and how Marlon Brando wanted to... So he was always wearing that... Weird blonde wig.
Starting point is 01:09:10 No, hotel ice bucket on his head. Oh, right. Which he had just seen and was like, I'm going to wear that as a hat on set. And they're like, okay. That's a choice. But then he told them that he wanted the twist ending reveal to be that he takes off the ice bucket and he's a dolphin and he has a
Starting point is 01:09:26 blowhole on top of his head and he shoots water out of the top of his head which would have been the silliest. I stand on purpose too. I hope that's the ending to Big Little Lies season 2. Big little blowholes. It's the same thing. The reason I
Starting point is 01:09:41 watch it now is completely different than what brought me in on the first season. right the acting was amazing the story was going places and i hadn't read the book and i'm like oh this is great the editing was amazing now i'm just more like okay off the strength of the first season i'll watch this and then i'm slowly like after the first episode i'm like what is this gonna be about because right you know they end the first season in a great place like before reality sets in and law enforcement tries to figure out what happened you're like and that's what happened but now we're like in this other thing about like really people who did not make the right decision on covering up their crime right and like they're using i remember what lord
Starting point is 01:10:16 uh renata's character was like it's gonna be a perjury trap and i was like all right rudy giuliani right no fucking perjury i'm like y'all fucking lied yeah right and and also like the way the dude died like I don't feel bad like if you had been honest with it right there's a reason like people like I don't know yeah I don't know you should have covered that up I think that was in the second episode where Zoe Kravitz was like yeah I keep thinking about the fact that you told me to cover it up but like I should have just said we're defending ourselves. This dude is trying to kill us. He's assaulting you, yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:46 And it's like, oh yeah, that solves everything. Why don't you just do that? Yeah. Well, it reveals weaknesses in the first season too that you didn't know were there at the time of just like, okay, they made... I mean, it had such a finale and I really enjoyed the first season.
Starting point is 01:11:01 Like I said, I was hooked and I didn't expect it to be as up my alley as it was. But yeah, I mean, it also it's hard because I really love anthologies for just this reason that like it being dragged back into the old plot as thoroughly as you're dragged back into this old plot. But trying to move things forward just feels like everything is so slow. But yeah, I mean, now that we've been talking about it this much, you feel like now I have to watch it. I have to give it another try. Meryl Streep's character is really good.
Starting point is 01:11:32 She's the only reason I watch. And it's not even because I like the character. I like she's a new Joffrey. I fucking hate her. And I'm like, man, what the fuck is wrong with you? You're so manipulative. We knew she was good at playing a hateable character from Devil Wears Prada, but this is like-
Starting point is 01:11:46 Also, choices from her with that teeth. Yeah. Teeth. Sometimes she'd be messing with her crucifix necklace. Yeah. A lot of choices. She has good doings. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 01:11:56 Yeah. Doings are important. Mm-hmm. Well, Tess, it has been a pleasure having you here today. Thank you so much for having me. This is so much fun, as always. Where can people find you and follow you? I am MrTessLynch on Twitter and MrTessLynch on Instagram.
Starting point is 01:12:12 Wow. But MrsTessLynch in real life. Oh. Just a choice I made. Okay. Yeah. And is there a tweet you've been enjoying? Oh, yes.
Starting point is 01:12:21 I would like to read it to you. It's from at Rob rob from online just found out the Danish word for jellyfish is literally water man and I'm cracking up at the idea that while other languages were naming them after medusa or whatever some Danish dude was like nah that's a water guy I love that that was on my list as well it's a good one miles where can people find you follow me on twitter and instagram at milesofgray. A tweet, I just laughed out loud reading this, from Ben Bolin from our very own network.
Starting point is 01:12:52 He said, spent a ton of time brainstorming this weekend, and honestly, a hard-hitting legal drama called Law & Order Food Court is the best idea I've had in years. I'm just trying to picture that show. Law & Order Food Court. Yeah, Law & Order Food Court. I'm like, is a food court, is it shit that only goes down in a food court?
Starting point is 01:13:09 Because my God, I used to go to high school by a mall. Behind the scenes of a food court. Shit that went down at the food court in Fashion Square. Boy. Oh, Fashion Square. Yeah, you already know. Yeah. I sold weed by Panda Express.
Starting point is 01:13:21 You could have a Gosford Park food court. Because then you have the people who are serving food. Right, right, right. Behind the scenes, what's going down. Then like the high class people, but you know. But they wouldn't eat in the food court. Right. No, no.
Starting point is 01:13:35 Yeah, but that's what would be dope is the high class people would actually be drug dealers and high school students. Oh, okay. Got you. Oh, shit. Yo, we had two good fucking movies. Ring, ring, ring. Ryan's Gate, hello.
Starting point is 01:13:47 Ryan's Gate again? It's at 824. Oh, shit. It's Annapurna. Betting war right now with Ellison. A tweet I was enjoying, Jonah Herman tweeted, lol, jokes on Megan Rapinoe because she actually has to go to the White House because she's now our president.
Starting point is 01:14:03 And then Mike Drucker tweeted, quote, How do you feel if Bill Clinton gets implicated by Jeffrey Epstein? I don't know. Feeling pretty fucking good about my any pedophile is bad policy. Which sums up my feeling as well. That'll really fuck people up. They're like, they really canceled him. Can't believe it.
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Starting point is 01:17:37 I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. Every the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. Every great player needs a foil. I know I'll go down
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