The Daily Zeitgeist - Worst Predictions 2024
Episode Date: January 3, 2025In this special episode, Jack and Miles are joined by super producers Anna Hossnieh, Bei Wang and Catherine Law to talk the best/worst predictions of 2024 and make a few of their own for the new year!...See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Hello, the internet and welcome to this very special
new year, first Friday of the new year episode of
Your Daily Night Guys!
Yes.
Yeah, Miles is still horny he's still horny
workplace
Guess what still horny
Here we are Friday, why are we here?
Because we're doing the predictions episode. Oh, yes. Yes. Yes, this is everybody's favorite year-end
Content from this show where we come in we make fun of the bad predictions
About the year that just ended
It's official you fucked up Nostradamus. You fucking got basically everything wrong.
And then we make our own predictions that we hope you will not look back at. Hopefully,
you'll remember the one out of like five that we get right. We're just going to fucking spray
shots. I'm going 100% with my predictions this year. You're going 100. All right. Everybody. So everybody get your phones ready to write down every one of Miles's
predictions and then you can just like click them off as they happen. Yeah.
Exactly. That did happen. I think this was the first year that I had somebody,
multiple people come back on one of my predictions and be like, wait, what is Jack? No stratum is what is, what's going on with this dude?
He's no stratum is wait, why? What did you predict that? That was,
Oh, we'll get to it because I'm predicting it again. This many hat. Yeah, man.
Let's bring that propeller hats, bro. Just consistent, consistent. All right.
You know who that is. That's Mr. Miles Gray.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Don't mind my nasally voice.
It's just a bit of holiday malaise, I think,
that's just causing my voice to sound like this.
I'm fine, thank you for having me.
I didn't even ask, but all right, man.
I like to get ahead of my men.
We are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by the original super producer of this show
moved on to bigger and better things. But still every once in a while will grace us with her
presence. Super producer Anna Hosni! Don't think I didn't clock that passive aggression in
Don't think I didn't clock that passive aggression in Jack's voice when he dismissed your illness. Are things changing at Daily Zyka?
My prediction is this show ends in a goddamn ball of fire because Jack and Miles actually
hate each other.
I have no problems with Miles, but if he answers a question I didn't fucking ask on Mike, humiliates
me.
Is he still talking? This is what I'm saying, he's still talking this is
The show is over you guys
Stand each other behind the scenes, okay
That's what I came here to tell you. Yeah, what guys it's a fucking facade Wow Victor's in the chat said
I've been meaning to text you about this, Anna. It's like this every day.
Every day.
Motherfucker.
Watch your pipe down, Victor.
Victor is actually my mole.
You were always against me.
You were always against me, Victor.
Wait, so he's against both of you?
What are the odds?
That's what it's like in this show.
We always accuse everyone of being against one of us.
You know, Jack was always against me.
I like to drop to my knees and shout,
why do bad things happen to good people every once in a while?
It's interesting.
It should actually bring you together
that Victor is technically against both of you.
Yeah. That is true.
Oh, enemy of my enemy.
The enemy of my enemy is my friend.
There you go, baby.
The against me of my against me is against.
Wait, Miles, what did I tell you?
Victor's trying to fucking manipulate us.
He's fucking playing both sides, man. He's trying to fucking manipulate us.
He's fucking playing both sides, man. He's got us all fucked up.
I told you. Isn't it funny?
I show up within two minutes and this is a reality show.
And I'm drinking.
Cut to miles, direct to camera.
It's just really hard.
I don't know how long I'll be able to keep it together if I'm being honest, but we'll see.
We'll see how this recording goes.
Yeah.
We're thrilled to be joined in our fourth seat
by the new executive producer of this show.
It's Kathryn Law!
Kathryn!
Hi, hi!
Yes.
Kathryn, you're not against me, are you?
I mean, only if we're playing that one game
about assassins.
So that as much has been made of in the news recently.
After that text you sent me about Miles just now
was so funny.
Oh my God, I know.
What the fuck?
Can you believe you did that?
Let me see.
I'm so easy to win, just defeat with head games like that.
It's just like fucking, you could get, as we've talked about, just compliment, like
if I, when I wear a stupid shirt, just compliment it and I will be wearing that stupid shirt
for the rest of my life, forever.
It's how we got to wear that MAGA hat for so long.
Now, I didn't want to talk about that era.
My red era.
It looks fucking dope. All right.
So that's it, right?
Nobody else joining?
It's the four of us.
Yeah, we might have some little spot comments from Victor and Bay
potentially, because I know some I know they have Ryan stuff in the dock.
But yeah, Ryan's always got some shit to say in the chat.
He's never liked me.
He's never liked me. He's never liked me.
He's always been again.
Always against.
But like, are you surprised?
Oh, wow.
Whose entrance music is that?
Oh, my God.
It's Bayway.
Another one of my malls.
Producer. Yeah, another mall.
It's one of your little on the left on the show.
Victor are both on my team.
So I sent them in to run this show and, you know, look at them now.
All right. So first, just to set a baseline, we like to do a cold takes exposed
on, you know, the predictions that were made about this year.
Take a look back. Does everybody follow cold takes exposed on Twitter?
It's great fun.
The guys just like follows people
who make sports predictions and then retweets them
when they, at the peak moment when they look the stupidest.
Right, that makes sense.
It's such a service that needs to be done more.
Because the world is just full of so many bad predictions.
But we're to do it for
Nostradamus. Some mispronounce it as Nostradamus. Duh, Nostradamus.
Is kind of the number one prediction guy. The guy who, when you predict something,
if it's like a bold and specific prediction, if you get something right people like all right Nostradamus and
He sucks at it. He fucking yeah, he sucks shit. He's a bad predictor
What is Nostradamus even fucking like what's what's that album that he first came out with that?
He's living off the strength of that where they are still like oh, yeah
No, he's a little mad like I don't know time his anybody look at our miss
Nostradamus yeah, that's funny. I don't know. Is anybody looking at Thomas? Yeah, that's funny.
I don't know.
And then Bob because yeah, yeah.
And Baba Vanga is getting creeping up, but I feel like it's a real one a one D or even
two.
Like Baba Vanga is definitely behind Nostradamus in terms of the cultural mind share.
Supervisor Victor, would you mind looking up to see what was
the big correct prediction that Nostradamus got that he's been coasting off of for all these years?
We'll come back to that at the end. But first we want to look at what he thought we had in store
for the year 2024. So big prediction that I think is a great illustration of why
predictions are a bad idea. He predicted something about a king of the aisles being driven out
by force, which people naturally interpreted that King Charles would be driven out off
the throne by force, which is just like so stupid.
Like anybody like that, that throne would still be important enough
that there would be like a forceful taking of power from one.
But it's like, I mean, it was impossible for him to know that at the time
that it was, you know, not that it was more like a reality show for old people at this point.
But yeah, I don't know.
It would be like him predicting people were going to invent a newer,
longer burning candle to this.
You know, this is just like bad because like even in 20,
King Charles was like King in 2023.
And I mean, that's when the coronation was.
So Notre Dame is fucking way off, dude.
Way off. Although I feel like I do that Prince when the coronation was. So Notre Dame is fucking way off, dude. Way off.
Although I feel like I do that Prince Harry could have come King.
Yeah, a lot of people were interpreting that like it would be,
you know, soon after a new king shall be anointed,
who for a long time will appease the earth again,
like because he thought kings were important still because he lived
a long time ago and didn't know what the fuck he was talking about.
Because he was just a guy staring at a candle.
That was this thing, right?
He would like stare at a candle, go into a trance and then just like let the let the
pen move.
That's me when I when I'm in the studio.
Yeah.
Yeah. We're in the stage. Wait, I didn't know that's a fucking terrible like I wouldn't trust a guy like what's your
methodology dude? I get fucking ripped and I look at this candle. Look at a candle.
And then I just write shit down. I'm like, okay, you know what? Maybe we can ask someone else to
do the truth flows through me. He he thought that the quote red adversary was going to launch a naval battle,
which also I feel like the Pentagon predicts every year
that China's gonna attack and we've got another year
where that shit still hasn't happened.
Yeah, well, keep at it.
And I'm waiting, Nostradamus.
Keep at it, keep at it.
Don't disappoint me again.
Anyways, he predicted a new pope, which it's possible that Nostradamus was confused by
seeing a glimpse of the 2024 Ralph Fiennes movie Conclave.
But Ray Fiennes.
Another prediction.
Okay, so let's get to celebrity psychics.
One said, we finally communicate with aliens through encrypted signals
Intercepted by a network of telescopes because they had just watched contact right before making the prediction is what I have to assume
That happened it did it has not happened quite yet
That's do you think until the the Navy releases their findings in ten years and they're like by the way, oh god
This is so funny.
Yeah, there are aliens.
Like, they'll just do it for 20 minutes.
It actually was an Iranian mothership
off the coast of New Jersey.
That's our man.
It turns out.
Oh, anyway.
Mothership.
So do we- Then they'll bury it.
When they say that, do they want us to predict
a giant drone that is the mothership
or is it an actual ship in the water?
I don't know. Like I mean, they are in the oceans now, right? Like that's where the aliens are,
according to that. Yeah. Yeah. But they were talking about Iran. And when you just said they
are in the oceans now, it's problematic. Yeah. Entertainment executives were predicting one
executive claim no movie would make
more than $1 billion of the box office.
And inside out, Deadpool, Wolverine both did that very easily.
But yeah, I mean, the entertainment industry has been way off about movies and being like,
movies are over, it's time for streaming.
And then they were like, wait a second, we need commercials to make money.
That's right.
In terms of politics, some people predicted the quote,
most likely scenario of the 2024 election was a Biden win.
This was from MSNBC.
Biden is well positioned to win reelection.
That might make for a boring story,
but it's also the most likely one.
If you ignore everything else around it.
If you ignore the else around if you ignore
The fact all all these facts that make that actually impossible
Like at the time that they're making that prediction and not everybody knew this but it was an actual
impossibility like his brain was
physically melting in real time and then then we have this other good one from CBS.
I predict that the Supreme Court is not going
to save Donald Trump from the criminal trial.
They are not gonna rule that he is immune
from criminal prosecution.
And I don't think it's even gonna be close.
It could be nine nothing with the Chief Justice
writing the opinion that a former president
does not have absolute immunity from criminal
Prosecution for actions they took while in office
swish
playing
Yeah, I like how they really I mean again whoever wrote that should lose their job right really you didn't see what the Supreme Court
Nine just over the last decade? Yeah.
It's going to be unanimous that they'll uphold the law. Okay. Cool.
Donald Trump is going to lose the election 50 to nothing states and he's going to be
in jail by the time the election happened. Maybe the dumbest prediction of all though,
Eric King, that probably the person who like would, if somebody said something smart and correct, like predicted something,
people might be like, okay, Elon Musk, in terms of like, you know, public perception,
branding, Elon Musk claimed that X would replace banks by the end of 2024. So
he's got a couple, He's got a couple.
Oh, no, that didn't happen.
It turns out it mean replace banks because remember he
thought he said X because X was going to be like the everything
app like everything would happen through X, including banking.
And you're like, dude, just shut the fuck up.
Yeah.
And use your child.
I never open a bulletproof with X.
Wait, I did.
But I mean, I never opened a checking account with X.
Wait I did.
All right.
Those are the dumb predictions about this year.
We're going to come back.
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And we're back. Does anybody want to come clean about any of their predictions for this year
that didn't quite happen? Because I was right about everything. It happened exactly the way
that I said it was going to happen. I just remember it like last year when we did it, if the feeling was so grim,
because we had an election coming and the Biden administration was doing fuck all about what was
happening in Gaza. And I think the one thing I was just, my whole feeling going into this last year
was like, there's going to be some kind of karmic boomerang for like arming and rah rahing the genocide.
And yeah, I don't know.
It clearly translated in some way.
Certainly didn't help.
I didn't have any fun ones, I don't think last year.
Like I do this year.
I don't even remember what I said.
How do you guys remember what you said?
I think I remember you said we're all gonna die.
Oh, wow. Yeah, yeah, that's right.
Wow. I'm pretty sure you said-
Wait a second, am I no good at all this?
Dude, we're all gonna die.
It doesn't matter, we're all gonna die.
I'm pretty sure it was kind of the,
I remember the vibe being really like,
God, it's a fucking hellscape
with no light at the end of the tunnel.
So yeah, no different this year. No. Yeah, I don't know.
I mean, unless these these New Jersey drones come to lift us off this planet.
So movies, I think I thought big things were coming from the despicable me
for and it did fine.
I did not make a single movie prediction.
No. But you did that last year
No, actually I did it like right before I think a month before I came out
I was like guys if you thought inside out to did well get ready for Despicable Me 4 and
Me it did good not as good as inside out, too. I think my
Prediction movie wise was that Megalopolis would be a good movie
since it had been in productions supposedly for 45 years.
Yeah anything that takes that long has to be pretty good right?
Obviously it's been perfected but let me just say like worth a watch like take a
gummy, find a friend and please. It's very it's very enjoyable. I maybe on a plane when you fall asleep because I watched it and holy shit
Oh, no, it is actually terrible, but it's like so
Unpredictably like gobsmacking that it is. Yeah entertaining. Why so you have to be like inebriated to fully be like
Go with the flow. I don't know. Yeah. Yeah.
Whatever. The guy fucking came back to life or some shit.
Yeah. You might be altered.
Yeah. Yeah. I recommend taking a nap in the middle and then coming back.
It'll make more sense. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
All right. Let's get into our predictions, guys. Miles, you want to kick us off?
Anna, let's go. Miles, Anna, right.
One, two, bing bang.
You want me just fire off all my predictions?
No, no, no, just like a couple.
Just give us a couple.
I'll do I think Beyonce will leave Jay-Z.
Wow. That's going to happen in 2025.
That feels right to me.
I hadn't made that prediction, but that feels right to me.
I just throw this shit is so fucking disgusting and like she can't her.
Her brand is way too valuable.
I don't I just don't know how that how anything comes to pass,
especially with all these like supposed illegitimate children
coming out of the woodwork and shit.
I also think Grand Theft Auto six will not come out in 2025,
even though they say it will come out in fall of 2025.
But I'm just a gamer who just don't know.
Shit takes time. I don't think that's gonna happen.
I think the Luigi from Mario Brothers is going to be really
popular for maybe the first six months of the year as like
a nod to Luigi Mangione.
And then here's I think everyone has some kind of prediction
around this.
I'm not sure which way the Luigi Mangione story goes, because
like the media wants to talk about it because it gets engagement, but they don't want to
really talk about it because they don't want people to like start getting like radicalized
or really kind of like putting shit together. So I'm just that's a big one. I'm really not
sure which way that story goes. If it kicks off a bunch of copycat stuff or it just turns
into like normalizing
fucking with billionaires in like a nonviolent way,
I don't know.
But I just know there's something there.
I just don't know what happens with that seed.
I actually know which way it's gonna go,
but I'm actually not allowed to tell.
I was told I was sworn to secrecy.
So, but yeah, I do think the CEOs are gonna try
to make themselves like a protected class
Via a lot of like think pieces. Oh, yeah, like the Atlantic had a thing
It's like are we going like is this D?
Evolution in reference to what happened and I was like, wow the Atlantic you're got all the right takes at all the right times
Tread Catholic guy at the New York Times op-ed was like actually the CEO is a working-class hero
and
You should maybe think about that and I thought it was like a fake headline
But turns out it was not well of corporations are people then that is accurate therefore. Yeah. Yes, that's right
And you know what you person person and we share a lot of Luigi memes
Where do you where's the where's Luigi? Where's the Luigi story headed for you in 2025?
I mean, here's what I'm hoping. I'm hoping. Well, I mean, it's hard to know based off his like really
fucking chaotic politics, but I'm hoping he doesn't take a plea deal. I hope he takes this shit to
trial. I hope he gets a hung jury every fucking five minutes for the rest of
his life. And then I hope to see a lot of memes that say like, the jury is not the only
thing that's hung. And yeah, that's sort of the most you want out of it are hung jury
jokes. Yeah, mainly in it for the memes. You want to see some? Yeah, let's be real. I'm
in it for more sort of meme work around Luigi and then yeah, I guess I predict potentially more
Vigilante killers. I don't know. It's it's like I think like there's so much
hype
around Luigi and
There's also so many conspiracy
Conspiracy how do you say that word?
to see theories around him that like,
I think like people will be just,
here's the other thing,
he's like a rich kid who got radicalized,
so I think there is sort of this energy surrounding him
where people are kind of like, well, fuck it.
Yeah, yeah.
You know, so I think there,
maybe not necessarily like literal assassins
are gonna come out of nowhere,
but I think there's gonna be a lot more interesting, radicalized behavior from people we least expect it from.
So that's an interesting experience.
Because you're seeing it too.
Like that lady who was on the claim call and said, defend, deny, depose on the call and
said, you're next.
And then she just got arrested.
Yeah.
Yeah, she got 15 years.
Did she get 15?
Why?
Something like that. I don't know. I don't know the exact details, but they're like threatening to give her 15 years.
Oh, sure, sure. For the threat.
Which to me is crazy because it's like, they hate women.
But it's also like, what?
Yeah, they're like, well, they told you you were going to die on the phone call by denying you care, but then you evoke something like that.
Yeah, that's that's I think also too, like I feel like being anti CEO is going to get someone canceled somehow.
Yeah. You know what I mean?
Like there's that's the other thing I see is what the billionaire class does to really do.
Like they need Olivia Pope from scandal right now to change the optics around them.
And I think I'm sure they have that already.
I was going to say like it's too fast.
Like they wouldn't be able to put like turn this around quickly enough.
But I feel like behind the scenes, every every one of these billionaires
has like a biopic going into development right now.
Like they're just like, OK, we got to fight this war on like many fronts.
We need the we need a movie called Bezos.
Yeah. In which, oh, my gosh, I'm waiting for the movie. Yeah.
Musk Bezos. Yeah. In which. Oh my gosh. I'm waiting for the movie. Yeah. Musk Bezos.
He did it all.
He did.
I'm waiting for the Luigi.
Yeah.
Luigi.
Luigi played by Michael Cera.
Yeah.
And then another one that's like a Ryan Murphy version.
Where he's like someone who's like really sexualized
or Luigi by Paul Dano with Paul Dano.
It's going to be someone who wants that Oscar so bad
We're gonna over act the shit out of that movie because I just want it like they're gonna cast like timothy chalamet
I mean, I'm a the I maybe like two on the nose. It's like they're just like, I don't know
No, it's gonna be someone who's gonna be wearing prosthetics for sure because they really want that transfer transformation Oscar
Oh, maybe the mr. Robot guy, what's his name again?
Rami Malek.
Yeah, I don't think he has known it.
He's a little too spooky.
But he's not the distinct eyes, like Luigi does.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, there's, I just think there's,
that's like the thing that is the biggest question for me,
because it's such a clear moment
where there's just such shared
outrage over this that I also feel like the media, you're already seeing it, like they
are going, that's another thing. They are going to play an even bigger role in trying
to dampen any sense of like burgeoning class solidarity that comes out of this because
it feels like that's just what every piece I'm reading has to do or like you just see.
And that's interesting because they've been trying to do that all year.
Right. Reading has to do or like you just see that's interesting because they've been trying to do that all year, right? And uh, I think it's just not worth here thing. Another thing is I love to say here's the thing
Here's the thing with Anna Hosni. Here's the thing. I think like they they really want that but they've unfortunately
They've gone too far like they've pushed us and pushed us and pushed us and it like, now you got CEOs being assassinated in the streets like by rich kids,
like, come on,
that's kind of a telling sign that you maybe need to tone it down a little
because if the rich kids are radicalized, oh honey,
you saw Columbia,
it's not cheap to go to Columbia.
Those kids were trying to fight cops. Like they were taking over buildings.
They had those specialized chain weapons.
I don't know what they called a bike lock that they sold on campus.
They've got these alien technologies that they're using to assault the police.
It's a bike lock they sell on campus.
It's just like you're seeing people on levels that really shouldn't be radicalized due to their privilege and because they can really live on
Quite a nice life, but like they're you know, they're just too human and understand what's happening quite well that like I
Don't know. I think a dampening will be pushed, but I don't think I don't know how successful
Yeah, because people hey, guess what the eyes they're open
Yeah, because people hey guess what the eyes they're open
Yeah, mmm, and people and they're up here by the way no matter no matter what the op-eds say people still are having the same Lived experience so until that changes like it it's just gonna fall on deaf ears
Which is why I think so many people when they see these pieces come out with like he just came from a small town
Brian Thompson and worked his way up and people are like what is this?
Wait, but also in New York City like a hundred K is kind of low-income you know
because you can apply for the like the projects right right yeah yeah that's I
think like the other prediction is disgusting get out of here yeah you don't
even work in finance lose Lose my fucking number.
I just think also there's going to there has to be like some token
gestures of goodwill to that.
I think billionaires are going to try to do just it again.
There's going to be some kind of attempt to try and sort of distract or,
you know, again, help their reputations.
But I just don't think that much is going to happen
unless there's something really substantive in people's lives. And with Trump in office, I just don't I just don't think that much is gonna happen unless there's something really substantive in people's lives and with Trump in office
I just don't I just don't see any of that happen
It's gonna be like viral videos where Jeff Bezos delivers a free pizza to like a working-class person
It's not gonna be like anything actually. He's like, I'm I'm delivering prime today. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. All right
That's like cool. Then he like covers over
Okay. Yeah. All right.
That's actually hilarious. Then he like hovers over.
Yeah.
It's actually delicious.
Yeah.
He's carried on a like a cloud of drones over as he delivers it.
But that's me.
Who else?
I mean, I think we got Anna.
We got some Anna in there.
Anything else on it besides?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I have a few.
Um, I think climate change is going to get worse. Uh, yeah, I have a few. I think climate change is gonna get worse.
Uh-oh.
Hot take.
I have this too.
I feel like one of these years,
there's going to be a massive heat death
where the people, it gets so hot
that it's actually unsurvived,
the human body can't survive it.
We're actually on the brink of that in many places. That's like the inciting incident of that book, Ministry for the Future, but like we're not
far away. No, I don't think we are at all. I do feel like that's when you could start seeing,
because that's like direct, like heat, cause, death, you know, which is a thing that gets ignored a lot.
But I do think we'll start to see maybe some of the early glimmers of the resistance that
was going to have to happen.
Why was it like 70 degrees in New York in November?
You know what I mean?
It's like sort of like weird things like that.
Yeah.
I mean, even like in India, there was a heat wave in India where like over 200 people died.
But I think that's the thing.
Eventually it's going to not be in like-
It'll be like a million, you know?
Like it can be.
That, I mean, that's like a possibility
that people are predicting,
like a heat wave that just takes out entire cities.
This year, just basically on the track we're on,
that is we're gonna- We're on the track, yeah.
And the track seems to be accelerating,
like according to climate people.
So, uh, I don't think Luigi Mangione is going to be the only, uh, kind of
radical act of resistance that we're going to see in, you know, these 24 months.
I think people are going to start.
I have a few others.
Um, I think cocaine is going to become good again.
Oh, thank God.
Am I right?
I'm not gonna explain that any further.
If you know, you know, I think you guys know,
cocaine's bad.
And then I think-
It never went away, honey.
It went away briefly with all the sort of fentanyl
cut into it.
You had to know where you're getting it.
Did that go away?
Is cocaine no longer have fentanyl?
No, but I think, no, it definitely does.
I think you should definitely get those tests first.
But I'm just saying, I think there's gonna be
sort of a resurgence, don't ask, I don't work for anyone.
Because it's the 80s, yeah.
Wait, you work for big cocaine?
I work for big?
Don't wear, don't look into who's sponsoring this episode.
No, I think just like there's gonna be like sort of like an almost like an ethical.
Here's the thing.
I've spent some time in Berlin.
And when I talk to certain people at clubs, there's this really funny push for like ethical
drugs.
Like they talk a lot about like, well, this drug was actually made ethically.
And you're like, what?
And I think that's sort of becoming a thing amongst younger generations is like doing
ethical drugs, which to me is sort of becoming a thing amongst younger generations is like doing ethical drugs,
which to me is sort of like, it's drugs.
But that's just something I noticed.
What do you mean like,
like doing like what like the like Bonobos does and shit?
Like what's that like company that's like,
hey, if you buy, if you buy cocaine, we'll give cocaine.
Methadrone is a prime example.
Methadrone is a prime example of ethical drugs.
Cause they're like, well, the thing you need to understand example of ethical drugs. Because they're like,
well, the thing you need to understand about methadrone.
And you're like, we're in a club.
Yeah.
Is that different from methadone?
It's like.
Yeah, yeah.
It's definitely different.
It's like a drone.
So a drone comes and gives you methadone.
Sort of like an ethically made speed.
Yes.
Oh, got it, got it, got it, got it.
And you're up forever.
Wait, why is that?
Why is it ethical?
It's lab made. It's lab made. It's not like is it ethical? It's lab-made.
It's lab-made, it's not like, you know,
it's made in Europe, so it's like local.
I'm not just joking.
It's fair trade.
What are you laughing at, Miles?
Because I've been in the lab with a pen and a pad
trying to get this damn method drone off, man.
It's just these hipsters, you know,
hipster scientists making it for subscribers. Stop buying, you know, hipster scientists like making it for crepers. Stop buying like, you know, like.
Stop buying like conflict drugs
where like the trafficking leads to death.
I just cooked this shit up
in my grandmother's kitchen, literally.
No, but it's not even like that.
That weed you're smoking was probably harvested
by Bin Laden.
I remember that being like a thing
that people were saying in the early 2000s.
It was like, okay,
they might be selling that drug.
I remember when people were telling me,
they'd say don't download pirated material
because that helps terrorists,
was like a thing I remember in the aughts.
And they're like, don't download that, piracy is terrorism.
Well, you never know.
Yeah.
You really gotta be, you gotta really search back
where your piracy came from.
So Coke is back, ethical meth, what else?
Ethical meth, I think also I think
We use knitwear
Do believe knitwear will continue to be king knitwear is so hot right now
And I think it's gonna continue to be king even though temperatures are rising
I think we will continue to wear knitwear because everyone loves the bullet where
Mm-hmm.
Oh, get ahead, get ahead of me.
I think cashmere's hot, baby.
Cashmere's back.
It's breathable.
They're making it more affordable.
It's back.
I just bought one myself, so.
Exactly, see what I mean?
See how I was able to predict that within seconds.
Yeah. Boom.
I do think Italy will fall.
Italy will fall.
This is some Nostradamus shit.
Yeah, that is some Nostradamus shit
because the king will be overtaken. A Nostradamus shit. Yeah, that is some Nostradamus shit. Because the king will be overtaken.
A rotten king will lead to the fall of the boot.
I do think people are starting to realize
Italy is a goddamn facade of a nation.
You just go there to get your little son in,
and then you leave, and then you don't realize
that all the people who work as essential workers
and all the people that work in the social systems
are literally striking 24 seven
because they have no rights
because they continue to vote in fascist,
Mussolini family members into the government.
It's turning quite right over there.
So I'm just saying,
if all goes well, Italy will fall.
And I just wanna, I know you're like,
no, but I need to go to like Cincaant will go now bitch cuz it's over. I thought it was already fallen and it's already fallen
I don't I always yeah, there's that Gerard Butler movie Rome is fallen
It will fall if I have anything to do with it
I've really been talking a lot of shit about Italy and I'm gonna continue to talk shit about Italy and if I have anything
To fucking do with it. I will bring down what about your love for Luigi? I mean Luigi's not really he's Italian American. That's different
That's true. They definitely look good work out here. He's taking things into his own hands
Okay, and if Italian Americans know what's good for them, they'll take down Italy's government. Okay
Health care will continue to punish us and get worse because we killed one of them
My birth controls on back order. Isn't that crazy?
Birth control, they're like, it's not coming honey,
it's on back order.
I'm like, hey honey, I don't understand that.
Sorry about that.
It's not a T-shirt that people want, it's birth control.
I don't just stop taking it.
Hey, do you wanna add yourself to the waiting list
and we can notify you when it comes back and stop?
I literally got that text yesterday.
It was like, your birth control's on back order.
I'm like, is this because they killed a man in the streets?
I get punished?
You get a text from another number, it's like, low key?
Yes.
Yeah, it does feel like that.
Low key shouldn't have been.
All of a sudden, the meds are on fucking back order?
Make more.
As if you're not making all the money in the world
Also, I do want to really quickly say I do believe pelvic floors will continue to get stronger
Damn because Pilates is becoming more and more prominent. Oh my god. Next thing, you know
Pilates exactly we will be able to kill you with their fucking pelvic floor So watch your fucking backs men trying to kill women because we're coming for you
Okay, you don't think I can put my goddamn thighs around your goddamn head and snap
your neck.
I can, you know why?
Cause I do do the reformer method.
Okay.
Yeah.
Reformers.
You don't think this core is stronger than the goddamn core of this earth.
It is.
I can kill you with my legs.
Anyway.
Damn.
Great.
That's what I got.
And I'm telling you, the more we do Pil Pilates because we are training for battle in those small rooms
You're all gonna die yeah, we're gonna be aerodynamic and small but like
So pack a punch, you know, but that core that core. Yeah, it's not even a joke like Pilates is not a goddamn joke
It's not a no
We're doing in those rooms
It's not a trick. No, every time.
The work that we're doing in those rooms.
It's important.
You're stupid.
I was doing Pilates for a minute
cause that was like the one time I,
that was like the one workout I was like,
oh, I have zero strength in this way.
Which I think was, have you seen that video?
It creates a darkness in you.
Have you seen those videos of like those muscular dudes
trying to get on the reformer
and they're all fucking just getting, just dying.
And they're like, yeah man, different,
completely different sets of muscles to stabilize. Oh honey. Yeah. Your thick arms don't mean
shit compared to my core strength okay. I also love how brutalist the machines look you know.
Yeah yeah. It's awesome. Let's let's take a quick break. Oh yeah. Jack got scared off that pelvic
floor talk. I'm so scared. I don't know how much I'm going to kill his ass.
Looking at Pilates videos being like, how are they doing this?
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And Bay, Catherine.
Yeah.
We'd love to hear what y'all think is going to happen this year.
Bay, you want to go first or you want me to go?
Sure, I'll go because I don't have that many.
But basically what we already talked about, I just have this
feeling that there's like a, I don't know, the world is just in a weird place. I just feel like since COVID and all this stuff, I just feel like something's happening. I don't know, I just feel
like we can all just kind of like get your cash, take your money out of the banks.
Get your cash. I see, I see.
And birth control.
So and I can't have any.
Yeah. Yeah.
You know, and and
I don't know, there's going to be like fires everywhere.
I remember I was in D.C.
when Trump was elected in like twenty twenty sixteen.
So twenty sixteen. And that's how it was.
It was like fires and like dumpster fires everywhere
and it was just like havoc.
That's how I feel like what's happening right now.
And what's gonna happen.
Did it ever stop in your mind?
No, it never stopped but then after this Luigi incident,
I'm like there must be some kind of like a woke QAnon
situation happening right now.
Yeah.
You think America is gonna be Weege in the juice? Yeah, now. Yeah. You think America is going to be weegee in the juice?
Yeah, definitely.
Cool.
Polly Short.
I'm glad you allowed that.
Thank you.
Yeah.
What else?
Okay.
I think after talking to some family members who are Trump people, I feel like robots are
definitely replacing a lot of human capital next year, for sure.
They're so convinced that this will save
American producers and things like that.
They're really convinced by this
because I guess the more you get robots to work,
you're gonna have the blue collar workers
who were doing the jobs to be doing some other kind of job
that controls the robots.
So there's going to be an increase of jobs.
I don't understand the logic. Was there more robots mean someone's got to work the robots? Yeah.
Oh, that is I don't know.
Wow. I wish that were the replica of the person.
And they just like are doing the fake work while the robot does the work over
here. And yeah, that's cool.
I mean, that does sound like something. Yeah.
That Trump supporters would be telling themselves about like what automation is
like, no, automation is fine because someone has to work the robots.
And obviously the people that run the factories are like, how do I cut costs?
Let me pay for robots and human labor and double the...
Yes, yes, yes.
And then they're logic.
Yeah, exactly.
They think it's like a James Cameron movie
where like the person has to go inside the big robot
and like throw stuff around and like move things.
So we just need more exoskeletons.
Are they hiring?
I know.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Totally, totally.
But I don't know.
I feel like in their world, it's going to be like, it's just like the factories are
going to quadruple in size.
That's how American labor is going to be.
They're going to be saved.
They're in for a big surprise, a big shock, a big shock.
Okay.
All right.
Catherine, you got anything? anything I do I have a
couple really important predictions I think that 2025 is going to be the year that everyone has
the wool taken from their eyes and they realize that AI is the 3d printer of the internet like
we all thought we were all gonna have 3d printers in like a second but they like don't really work
that well and like nobody really has them.
I think people will realize like AI actually sucks
and it gives you the wrong answer 99% of the time.
And I think it's gonna be a footnote.
Footnote.
And I am also hoping that's gonna happen.
I agree.
I think people are realizing that already.
I don't, so I started writing this same prediction
and then I was like, but the thing that is
the reason AI exists is to prop up the market.
Like it's adding value to a bunch of companies that don't actually need like deserve the
value by just being like, we added AI to it.
And like the people who are making it have no incentive to like, they're just going to
keep moving the goalpost back.
Like there was a point during this year where people like,
is it going to crater because like people are starting to realize that it
like doesn't do shit. Like it doesn't work.
Like it's just fine. Yeah. Yeah. It's just Google's bullshit for you.
I think they're going to be able to just continue fooling themselves because why?
I don't know.
They just the thing that like it, it doesn't exist now and like never has.
And I don't see what is going to change to make the market be like,
guys, there's not much here.
You know, maybe I'll have that moment.
I mean, I guess they had that moment with crypto,
but I feel like maybe they like learned their lesson from crypto. They're like, oh, well, now crypto's
back. So maybe we could have just done without the whole crash where we realized we were just
standing on a bunch of thin air and just continue to pretend and fool ourselves. But I agree. I
think there's going to continue to be a lot more people being like, Hey, this thing sucks.
I just don't know if it's going to pierce the whole like market economy and like
mainstream media bubble that is like propping it up right now.
I would love to see it.
Sure.
Yeah.
I just don't know if it will.
Cause I think now when you like Sam Altman's giving money to Trump already for
his inauguration, like they're probably fixing to get some kind of like soft
landing via the like some kind of government assistance if it goes fully pear shaped.
But okay.
Yeah.
So that's my, that's my hope and prediction for AI.
Also just like a quick tidbit, you can put in your little search bar and Google whatever
you want to search for and then write minus AI and then it won't give you like the terrible
AI suggestion that tells you
to go eat bleach or whatever.
Yeah.
When you're trying to look up like biscuit recipe.
Which did happen to me.
Tells you to eat bleach?
Well, it wasn't bleach, but it was like,
yeah, you should like put this in your butt.
And I was like, no, no, no, that's poison.
Someone's gonna die from AI.
Start with a bleach and ammonia mix.
Right. A base of, yes.
It was like our idea for this show,
do a bad segment up
top. So then once we get to the predictions, it's like it tastes good. Right. So we did a juxtaposition.
Yeah. I have a question for you guys. So I think there will be a lot of copycat killers like Hot
Luigi, but I wonder if you guys think as some like TikTokers have predicted or said like,
it's nice that it's not schoolchildren this time.
Yeah.
I wonder if it's going to be a trend. What do you think?
I don't think so.
No, I think.
Yeah, I think they're just like too well protected. I think we'll see a trend of like the security
industrial complex around billionaires and CEOs like exploding. But I don't know if we're gonna see like a lot of people
doing the same thing.
Okay, all right.
But I don't know.
It's all right.
Yeah, it's certainly opened the door for that kind of thing.
Because the kind of attention he's gotten,
I think there will be a lot of people attempting that.
You know? Yeah.
I actually don't have like a strong feeling
one way or the other.
I just feel like the way that American history in my lifetime has gone,
it's just always like goes towards like protecting the billionaires.
Yeah. Yeah. Maybe this is a turning point. I don't know. Yeah.
I'm going to predict that Norway is going to be the hot place to visit in 2025.
No, my friends who went to Norway in 2024
and like people are like, Norway, it's the place to be.
It's great.
Norway.
I do wanna warn you.
Okay.
That's only to spend some time in Norway.
See, the Norwegians?
I do wanna warn you.
Very pushy people, okay?
They are not nice.
Okay, sometimes.
I like the casual European discrimination
that we're doing
I've spent some time. I mean, they're no Italians, but they're still pretty push no Italians
Yeah, I mean, I think the Italian people are fine. I think their government should fall
The so I spent some times some some, some weeks in border towns in Sweden,
where the Norwegians come into town
in just like mass amounts,
because they want to go to the like huge candy
slash cigarette shops.
And so they come and they buy candy,
buy the pounds and they buy their cigarettes.
These shops are one, it's a huge candy shop that has a cigarette section and
If you try and park in a parking lot that they are trying to park in Oh
It sounds very
That's like a Yelp review. That's like a one-star Yelp review.
And they're like, yo, they're bringing a lot into this one.
I've experienced this two years in a row.
They want their candy and they want their cigarettes
and they will fight for their goddamn lives.
They will honk and choose you walk by.
They will almost hit you with their car
if they're trying to get to a parking spot.
They are so crazy.
And then, and I'm sorry to call the Norwegians crazy,
but you know who you are.
And then, God forbid you go over one minute
over your tennis court a lot of time.
Oh, they're up in your face like nobody's business
being like, I have this tennis court,
get off my tennis court.
And I'm literally like, I'm literally just,
it's a clay court.
I'm brushing it for you to clean it up for you
after I played on it.
And you're out here trying to beat the shit out of me.
I'm like, no they're rude when you're playing tennis.
Oh no, you know they're Norwegian, they'll tell you. Anyway, yes.
Go to Norway and be very careful. I'm just saying like don't try and park in the parking lot.
Watch your fucking back. That's all I'm saying. Watch your clay court tennis playing ass when you're there.
I'm just saying like get out of their way. That's all I'm saying. Watch your clay court tennis playing ass when you're there. I'm just saying like get out of their way.
That's all I'm saying.
Get out of their way.
I will say this, historically they were the most fierce
Vikings in the area, so I feel like.
Oh, and I know where all their graves are.
I visited them.
And I know where all their graves are.
I'm not joking.
I know where they're buried.
Yeah, no, okay, I'm just warning you.
Go to Norway, it's gorgeous, it's beautiful.
I loved it.
Just be careful. The people will run you over.
Don't go over your time on a tennis court
and don't fuck around in the parking lot
for the Swedish candy cigarette stores.
Exactly, because here's the thing,
they drive over the border because they pay less taxes
in Sweden because Norway has all that oil money going on
that their taxes are more, I mean, also their quality
of life is a lot better, but like still just be careful.
I don't act like I didn't warn your ass.
Okay.
And then if you sound like Norway and you experienced this DM me, cause I want
to know your experience cause I'm telling you it's weird over there.
All right.
Uh, well, my last two are, I think that there will not wind up being a
TikTok ban either because like there's too much money involved and they're not gonna be able to make it happen or
We are gonna find a way around it and it will be fine. So I think everybody can stop worrying about that
Yeah, I agree. Yeah, I agree. In fact, like one person was just like to set your location as Canada
I don't know if that actually works, but that's what somebody said and most importantly
lastly and most importantly,
George R. R. Martin has finally revealed
that he is too old and crotchety to finish when it's winter.
I have been saying for years that the second he croaks,
they're gonna throw a ghostwriter in there
to finish the series or just like have it go on
ad nauseam forever.
So now that he has admitted that he is not fucking finishing this book,
I think they're gonna have a ghostwriter sneak on in there and and you know,
we're gonna deal with him to have somebody else finish it because
he's not going to. What's the big deal with this?
But it's supposed to be like the last book or so. I don't know anything about the books.
I don't even think it was supposed to be the last one. Oh, bro, George.
He just like you could really see in the, in the, you know, past, the last book that
he did, the name of which I can't remember at this moment, but he sort of like loses
his way and the pacing is off and he's sort of, you know, I think they're going to have
somebody else come in and, you know, finish it up, finish the job, which I'm excited about.
You think he's going to let them?
You think he's just like, fuck it?
I think he might now that he's admitted let them? You think he's just like, fuck it?
I think he might now that he's admitted like, I can't do it.
Okay. Yeah, I saw that headline. He's like, I'm not sure I will be able to finish this book.
Yeah, he's like, I'm out.
I don't know what that meant. I'm like, are you? I feel like this dude was dying for like the last 15 years.
He's very old.
He's actually, he looks old, but he's actually in his late 40s.
Oh shit.
He just like, lived a hard life.
Like Edgar Allan Poe.
Yeah.
He and his.
He and his.
He smoke one cigarette.
Yeah.
The Norwegian.
One Swedish cigarette.
He and his ships captain hat can go off into the sunset
and let Brandon Sanderson or some other novelist
finish the job.
Yeah, I mean those would be my picks for sure.
All right, a couple quick ones for me.
Utah continues to thrive. We're going to see
more cultural exports from Utah, more mainstream Utah successes.
You're talking about Real Housewives of Salt Lake City, right?
Yeah. Yeah. And just one of the greats. One of the greats.
I mean, they just got, Ana, we talked at the end of last year, they got the number one
basketball recruit in the country to go to
Brigdom Young University.
But you got to watch the secret lives of Mormon wives.
That one is like the supposedly just the best show in the history of reality TV.
Can I ask a question? Did you say Brigdom Young?
He said Brigdom.
He said Brigdom Young, right?
Brigdom?
I caught that.
Fucking fool. Go ahead. Brigham. Bregham. Brigham Young? He said Brigham. He said Brigham Young, right? Brigham? I caught that.
Brigham.
Go ahead.
Brigham.
Brigham.
Brigham?
The Pamela Andersons will continue.
I feel like she's, she got nominated for a Golden Globe
for a movie called The Last Showgirl
that not a lot of people saw.
She's in the new Naked gun reboot that's coming up.
Big prediction for me, there's going to be a Superman movie coming out in the summer.
Wait, that's announced.
What do you mean?
Did you make it up?
No. All right.
Fine. I just like Googled movies that are coming out.
And this year,
I heard it does like, you know, is going to be a fucking dead on made. Yeah, dude. I'll probably make it
That's not a pretty
Superman movie dude for sure like I just have this it's like a gut
You know like every five years I feel like it's like Superman time
Do you think there's also gonna be another minions movie?
There's not a distraction here. What's gonna happen? Why you know in the world? So Superman to save the day?
Jack Jack, who's the next spider-man? It's not gonna be Tom
Tom Tommy boy Tom Holland. All right, you tell me you're on the Google. This would be Tommy Hilfiger. Yeah
Tom Tom Tommy. There's a Michael Jackson biopic by Antoine Fuqua coming out.
Fuqua, Fuqua, Fuqua, Fuqua, Foucault's pendulum.
Riggedum Young, Antoine Fuqua.
This is the one he said, baby, baby yoga.
Remember that? Baby yoga.
Was it baby yogurt?
No, you said you were talking about baby Yoda and called him baby yoga.
Baby yoga. Yeah, yeah.
That's a classic Jack.
That sounds like me.
Do you know they're bringing back the Jurassic World
franchise for another one?
Is that a prediction?
That's a prediction in July 2nd of the year, 2025.
Wait, Jack predict something.
I am predicting that Jurassic World will experience
a rebirth with a Scarlett Johansson film called Jurassic
World Rebirth.
All right.
I mean, Scar Joe is in it.
And guys, I'm getting tinglings in the shared consciousness.
We might have another Avatar coming. A third Avatar film.
So get ready to end your seasonal Avatar.
Isn't the, I have to leave the movie Avatar
Depression Disorder relieved for a couple hours
because after three coming.
Avatar is racist and you know it, so just stop.
I think drones are gonna continue to be a thing.
I'm being told that after my mic needs to be cut.
I don't know, this New Jersey,
everybody freaking out about,
like we talked about how the New Jersey drone sightings
thing is probably just drones doing what drones can do.
And it has only grown since then, which kind of
made me realize that the past 15 years of media being hollowed out and dying
and like having budgets cut and shrinking and being replaced just by
social media is probably going to continue to have, you know, we're just going to continue
to see the mainstream media just point its attention at whatever it seems like is happening
on social media, which is fucking bonkers. So yeah, we'll see the consequences of that continue.
We'll see drones continue to inundate our reality.
Hopefully people aren't too freaked out by it
and think it's aliens.
And then finally, and the big one,
everybody waits every year for my fashion prediction.
I really think this is the year for propeller hats, guys.
I think that, I think that's it.
I talked about it last year.
We started seeing them in some fashion houses in Japan
and I just, I have a feeling.
Fashion houses in Japan.
Okay, it was a story in Japan.
But anyways.
Someone get his meds, get his meds.
Those are my predictions.
Everybody laughed at Nostradamus
when he made his predictions.
And you know, now he's synonymous
with being the best in the business.
So yeah.
I have a prediction.
There will be another iPhone.
Wow.
Okay.
No, hold on, hold on, hold on.
Now that one.
Hold on.
Where the fuck did you, are you a fucking,
how did you, wait, how do you know this?
What gives you that kind of idea?
So I'm actually, I'm really good at sort of reading
like culture and the zeitgeist
and sort of seeing what's happening
and then like being able to take that information
and then use it to predict something.
Cause you know, there's an iPhone almost every year,
so one can only assume there'll be another one.
Spot on, spot on. You're welcome.
You're welcome. Wake up dead man and knives out mystery is coming um is my prediction. That's
that's the name of the new knives out. Wake up dead man. Okay uh all Well, that's been the predictions episode.
I think we nailed it once again.
Thank you so much for joining us.
Kathmine Law, where can people find you?
You can find me at Kath Elizabeth on Instagram and on podcasts Dear Chelsea and Driving to
Disneyland.
Bei Wang, where can people find you? You can find me on Instagram, imperial.concubine.
And SoundCloud.
Bay, Bay, Bay, B-E-I, B-E-I-B-E-I.
Bay, Bay, Bay.
Super producer Ana Hosnier, where can people find you?
I am at Money Moves Hosnier on Instagram, baby.
Give me a follow. We make money moves.
I will make more predictions on there about Jack's hairline.
Hey, wait a second.
I said that was awful.
That was the first text on this doc.
Isn't it interesting he's always wearing a hat?
Anyway, weird.
Isn't it weird, isn't it interesting that he's been doing
the show from Turkey the last three weeks?
Really?
Do you see those little dots where they made the line
of where the hair will be?
What?
That's weird, right?
Very first thing on the dock.
This is fucked up.
It's just funny.
He got that blue screen background, but you can tell people kind of break through.
He's clearly in Istanbul.
You can see like a bunch of stray cats.
They're all Turkish surgeons.
Miles Gray, where can people find you? Find me as bald as ever at milesofgray, wherever they got at, sorry.
All right. You can find me at Jack underscore O'Brien on Twitter,
Jack Obi-Wan on Blue Sky, and that is going to do it for us.
January 3rd in the books.
We're back on Monday with a new episode.
Yes. That we will be recording on Monday to tell
you everything that happened over the past couple weeks while we were recording episodes like this
and relaxing. So we will talk to y'all then. I hope everybody has a nice restful holiday weekend, and we'll talk to you all on Monday. Bye.
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