The Daily Zeitgeist - Xenophobia Easier Than Policy! A.I. Is Now A Slur! 09.19.24

Episode Date: September 19, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Is there such thing as too much cream cheese on a bagel? I'm not talking about being obscene and putting a whole thing, but would you ever be like, wow, you put a lot of the cream cheese on your bagel? I think structurally, the limit physics limits you before too much. There's a saturation point. Yes, yes, yes. But I'm saying, do you like a healthy schmear of cream cheese on there versus like some people like like it light?
Starting point is 00:00:33 And I'm like, no, bro, I need I need some of that cream. For me personally, that's like asking if there's too much gravy on turkey. There's not really. Yeah, yeah. Okay. So, okay. So Justin is an intellectual. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:00:45 Um, you hit the physical limits. I will say something has changed with the kids, where the kids, my kids, and I judging from other kids who have had bagels at birthday parties that I've been around, they don't like the heavy schmear anymore. They, my, my kids want it treated like butter, like the way you butter a bagel. Like it's, you know how much butter I put on shit. Yeah. They, they, they like it so that like, you can see the bagel mostly.
Starting point is 00:01:15 And then there's just like something. What's the, the moderation that they're exercising. I know. Yeah. My kids like don't like cheese. They don't like cream cheese. Uh, they might be lactose intolerant. It might be a yucky.
Starting point is 00:01:30 Ah, no, pilot on. They don't like ice cream for some reason. They don't like milk unless it's lactate. They like sitting on the toilet for six hours. I don't know what's wrong with this. You're talking weird. Sick. for six hours. I don't know what's wrong with it. It's fucking weird.
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Starting point is 00:03:23 You can listen to Sniffy's Cruising Confessions, sponsored by Gilead, now on the iHeartRadio app, or wherever you get your podcasts. New episodes every Thursday. Hello, the internet, and welcome to season 356, episode four of Darn It, Louise, Ike Ice! The production of iHeartRadio and America's only undecided podcast
Starting point is 00:03:52 Podcast where we take a deep dive into America shared consciousness what man we keep When I was gone, oh just just the trend of manufactured Obsession with undecided. Yeah, it's the way to get attention. Oh I just want the New York Times to notice me. Yeah. It'd be like, this podcast is amazing. We can listen to how they talk. They're truly undecided.
Starting point is 00:04:14 We checked in with some undecided voters and they had this to say. This biracial flat earther is Kamala curious. It is Thursday, September 19th, 2024. Hey, you know what that is, right? Well, I do. It's national paw paw day. What is a paw paw? P-A-W-P-A-W?
Starting point is 00:04:40 It's an American fruit. It's a fruit. Yeah. It's a mango banana flavored paw flavored Papa and I'm like, yeah I didn't know they're delicious and they've been lost to history, but you guys should check out Historic culinary traditions in America. That's one of them. There it is. Yeah Yeah, they call it the Kent Kentucky banana or hillbilly mango apparently Yeah, I'm in for a Kentucky banana if you don't mind. I'm also about to change some of my responses later. I love this.
Starting point is 00:05:08 It's also National Butterscotch Day. Speaking of 100 year old things, shout out a nice bit of Butterscotch Pudding Day. Our Butterscotch. Oh yeah, I'm sorry, Butterscotch Pudding, my bad. And it's talked like a pirate day, so don't tell your kids or else they're gonna know the fuck out of you. Don't tell that guy that you work with. Don't. The guy who makes the fart noises with his mouth.
Starting point is 00:05:31 One of you guys is the coworker who does Talk Like a Pirate Day, and I'm gonna find out which one it is. Look around you. Is there somebody who's the guy who's annoying on national Talk Like a Pirate Day? Then it's you. You'd be hard pressed to prove which one of us that is. who's the guy who's annoying on national talk like a pirate day, then it's you. You come on.
Starting point is 00:05:49 You'd be hard pressed to prove which one of us that is. Well, my name's Jack O'Brien, AKA NSA. They listen to what you say. Recording you every day. It's okay. They got a podcast for you to stream now. That is courtesy of Pean peanutty Brown on the discord, just a workman like, uh, conveying information, the NSA listens to what you say and they've got a podcast for you to stream now.
Starting point is 00:06:15 It's the only other podcast that we're aware of other than the Daily Zeitgeist. Yeah. Yes. We don't acknowledge other podcasts, but, uh, we'll, we'll allow you to check that one out, folks. I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. It's Miles Gray, AK.
Starting point is 00:06:33 Crikey, it's clogged. What's down inside the drain? Oh no, it's chalkers with hair. Shout out to Scowdy of the Discord, because like I said, I'm in Drain Cleaning Australia YouTube channel where they go, oh, Mike, this is Chalkers, absolute Chalkers. So shout out Scowdy for that one, mixing it with a little Weezer. Little Beverly Hills. And that was quite decent. Thanks so much.
Starting point is 00:07:01 That's one where I read it on the Discord and I was excited to hear you sing it. Yeah, it's chocolate with hair. You did not disappoint. I think. Well, Miles, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by one of the very faces on Mount Zeitmore, a hilarious and brilliant producer and TV writer. You know him from the Yozis Racist podcast. It's Andrew T.
Starting point is 00:07:22 Andrew T! Andrew T! Rushing slowly back to Zoom land, back to the pod where my AKs are stolen. This is a host bro pod that somehow never bombs. Come learn and have fun. Come learn and have fun. Come learn and have fun. Come as we have to do the course. Every day is like takes day. Every day with Jack and Miles Gray.
Starting point is 00:08:02 Oh, that's as far as I got. Oh, wow. Song far as I got. Ooh. Wow. Song from noted racist Morris. Morrissey. Yeah, yeah. On a day we're talking about immigration. Yes. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:14 Great. He's a cool guy. I did think it was maybe a Smith song, but no. Dude, he. Straight Morrissey. When I used to work, I probably said this story before, when I used to work like events,
Starting point is 00:08:25 I worked a Morrissey show and like, it was like doing concessions and stuff. And like, no one was allowed to bring meat in. Like you couldn't even eat your own meat when he was there. I was like, my own meat? I love eating my own meat. But they don't, no, they didn't allow it. Everything vegan. Yeah. Don't play with your own meat to quote Doc Rivers. Yeah, there it is. Morrissey, I think I had to work a fish show once and just the only sober five people in the building were like, we're 10th graders.
Starting point is 00:08:58 We're just like, I don't know what we were even doing, like selling concessions or something for our basketball team. It's very weird. Oh, at a fish show? At a fish show. Yeah. Oh, when you said working a fish show, I didn't even like, what were like event stuff, like event stuff.
Starting point is 00:09:12 You just meant you went to do a fundraising, sell like bacon stuff? That was like one of the things. I mean, I remember one time we worked the parking lot at a, I think it was a horse race because this was in Kentucky, but yeah, they would just get weird jobs for us to do that would raise money for the basketball team. Which is a weird trip. Hey man, I got about 15, 14-year-olds. Yeah, exactly. If you need them for an event, you're like, what?
Starting point is 00:09:40 Just give back to the $50 donation to the team. That's so strange. Knowing you guys worked big concerts really actually makes the trailer for the movie, Trap, make a lot more sense to me. Just the part where the dude just tells him all the information about what's, like the concessions guy is like, yeah, there's an FBI sting and they're trying to catch the killer.
Starting point is 00:10:01 And it's like, yeah, that's how it would go down. Yeah, you know. It's just like, yeah, that's how it would go down. Yeah. It's just like, if any Bozo working concessions was given the full plan of the FBI. Yep. That's it. There it is. Yeah. Those massive events are like not run by the, I think, I think I think of those people as cops, but they're not, they're just people.
Starting point is 00:10:22 Pro staff. Yeah. Just like staff at like the crypto arena and stuff like that. I think it's because they walk confidently behind doors that you feel like, what even would it take for me to get access to that door? There's probably snipers back there, would be my first thought. Yeah, what a weird thing. I wonder if that has changed or if high school kids are still like working events just on, on a volunteer basis.
Starting point is 00:10:52 Well, I feel like when you're a kid, I remember doing all kinds of stuff. It's like, yo dude, my dad will give us 40 bucks if we work 12 hours at his like shop and you're like 40 bucks for 12 hours. Yeah. Okay. I'm sure kids still get into that shit free hell yeah No, actually you gotta fill out an i9. What the fuck worried about taxes in 10th grade? I mean I could be farming Bitcoin online, but it sounds much better
Starting point is 00:11:20 Yeah, kids are probably way too sophisticated to do that. You like why would I do that? I could be fucking grifting somebody. Like, yeah, they're like Forex trading. They're like, I don't know. Actually with the weakness of the sterling, the pound sterling, I don't know if I should take that job. So fucking savvy. All of a sudden, you have any idea how many old people there are in this
Starting point is 00:11:39 country who will just click on any email that I send them that has like Trump demands that you open, open this link. True passive income. All right, Andrew, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell the listeners a couple of things we're talking about. I think we have the answer. Is this racist on this first story?
Starting point is 00:12:04 Yes, it is. The Springfield story continues to dominate the headlines. I even saw a Miami Herald headline that was like, think the Springfield story is hurting Trump. Think again. And it was like an opinion piece in the Miami Herald. But that website has since the last time I went there, gone completely to hell. And when I tried to open it, seven pop-ups showed up on my... So I have no idea what their thesis is. Wait, they were trying to say it's not an issue because there's a half... There's a very significant
Starting point is 00:12:37 Haitian population in Florida. So he's like, this opinion piece, it doesn't matter. They're chill. They like Trump. Yeah. I think that's what I'm saying like it's good. We're we're good here He's doing he's he's winning voters. He's being savvy So, I don't know we're gonna talk about the continued fallout from that story we're gonna talk about their continued policy of doubling down on Making fun of Kamala Harris for not having given physically given birth to another person. We're going to talk about Trump's melting brain.
Starting point is 00:13:13 We actually have a piece of good news today. Yeah. Fatal drug overdoses have dropped drastically in the last year. So we're going to talk about that, the changing meaning of the word AI, all of that, plenty more. But first, Andrew, we're going to talk about that, the changing meaning of the word AI, all of that, plenty more. But first, Andrew, we do like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history? Oh, this is like a series of increasingly panicked and specific searches on YouTube.
Starting point is 00:13:41 My sister and nephew visited this weekend, and I had to learn how to install and then reinstall a car seat for a child in the waiting lane of Burbank Airport. Because I put it in wrong. You guys are dads. I guess you probably know about backwards versus forwards facing. I did not. As long as you can. As long as you can get them facing backwards, man. Yeah. So I put it in the front seat facing forward and shit.
Starting point is 00:14:15 You're like, hey, my young nephew. I had it on top with my knives. Like the fucking cliff at Beverly Hillbillies. Like the clampits are coming to town. As long as you got one of those roof racks, I think that's pretty legal. It was solid. No, it was one of those things where it was like my... Because it's what? The 40 pound was the limit on the fucking car seat. And I just remembered my sister bragging so much about how tall my nephew is for his age.
Starting point is 00:14:47 So I just genuinely was like, that motherfucker's probably more than 40 pounds. Right. Yeah. So I installed it. So you just didn't bring it? Yeah. Yeah. I was like, yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:58 He brought a motorcycle for him. Motorcycle sidecar. And yeah, and it was just unacceptable, which is fine. That's on me. But then having to readjust a car seat, like with my blinkers on with people honking behind me at Burbank Airport, which at least it wasn't LAX. It could have been worse, but it was not great. That's fucking stressful.
Starting point is 00:15:19 It was the most stress I, an individual who's created the least stressful life possible, has experienced in me. That's precisely, yeah, that individual who's created the least stressful life possible, has experienced in me. That's precisely, yeah, that's always how it works. It's like next thing you know, you're clogging up Burbank with, yeah, sorry, I don't have the signal to Google this shit right now. And it's like, it's also like those like, like installation YouTubes. I mean, you know, you can skip around and find it, but the fucking preamble, I was just like, yeah, lady, come on, it's fine. Yeah, you know, the you can skip around and find it, but the fucking preamble.
Starting point is 00:15:45 I was just like, yeah, lady, come on. It's fine. Yeah, I know. There's a great car. See. Yeah. A lot of great features. Tell me how to fix this quickly.
Starting point is 00:15:54 Please. Right. This is that's what the YouTube premium should be. It should just be instructional videos that actually get without preamble. Yeah. Yeah. That I would pay for that. I remember the first time installing a car seat, like before we were going to
Starting point is 00:16:09 the hospital to have our first and like they, I think they tell you that you have to like get a fire, like somebody works at the fire in the fire or say check it for you. Yeah. Which is, so I, it does make sense. It's also like, wow, that the, I'm, I must be fucking this up in some way because it seems fairly straightforward to me. Like I think, I think this YouTube video kind of explained it.
Starting point is 00:16:40 He's a wild because when we were having our kid, her majesty, she's like, you know, supposed to go to the fire station or CHP thing. thing and I was like I ain't going no fucking CHP shit for what And she's like to fucking at least know from that the people who deal with car accidents all the time Yeah, I see it is in there's like you're not going there to fucking give them money and high-five them I'm like, yeah fine. And we go, the nicest fucking guy comes out. He's like, he was like, it clearly just like wanted to be a desk CHP guy. He was like wearing he had his like shirt on, but I like jeans on. And it was just like, you guys having a kid is like, you know, I'm a grandpa
Starting point is 00:17:18 started showing me his like, very family. He's like, you know what, I'm gonna get you a pool noodle because I think this can be a little bit I don't like this give here. He got a pool noodle, like cut it by like custom fit it to our thing. And I was like, this motherfucker just whispering under your breath the whole time. Yeah, still a cab motherfucker. He's like, what was that? I'm like, thank you so much, sir. Thank you so much. Your child is adorable. Congratulations. Thank you so much. We back the we back the beige.
Starting point is 00:17:46 Because CHP wears khaki. Yes. Was the pool noodle blue? Was it blue? No, it was green. It was green. Damn. And we gave that car seat to another friend
Starting point is 00:17:55 who was having a kid and I was like, you know, take this pool noodle also goes a long way. But yeah, they definitely check it out. I was curious. It is so funny to me. It does. It makes sense when you guys say it, but like the amount, I know it's just like the fucking nanny state, I guess.
Starting point is 00:18:10 Like, but how much of infant shit falls to firefighters is wild to me. It's hard for me to imagine a firefighter and a baby at the same time. Just like, this is really nice. If you're having trouble envisioning it use AI Search that's why your fighter and baby. Yeah. Yeah, everyone everyone hit me on Twitter with Burn down a glacier melt a glacier to generate an image of firefighter with Way you can just look at this calendar. I have this Here he comes.
Starting point is 00:18:47 Look at those overalls. Yeah. I mean, you can just drop your baby off at the fire station. If you want. I know. Why is that a thing? I mean, it's great that it's a thing. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:59 Hold on. I'm sounding like a conservative now. Specifically those guys. I just, it's just like. I think because they have time There's a there's a level of like medical care like yeah literacy that firefighters have so it's not you know They're not they're not the guys with guns who shoot the poor people. Yeah, like and I guess what is it? What is my vision? I kindly none like what the fuck am I?
Starting point is 00:19:23 Where do I think you should, like, you know, They're like, oh, yeah, no, you don't have to drop them off here. You could always drop them off at the Catholic Church. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
Starting point is 00:19:36 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, Precinct. That'll be, you know, handle for you. Like baby Gats. They won't even ask questions. Yeah. What what's something you think is underrated? Well, now off of this pop pop business, I do think fruits that are so fragile, they don't handle industrialized shipping are always the best fruits you've ever had. And it's not underrated, but it's just like impossible to find
Starting point is 00:20:05 I had a fucking wax apple the other day Honestly, not that good. But are in the like the fake fruit. That's in like a fake bowl of fruit. Yes made of wax They're called were you like gallery eating the display fruit in a bowl there. I think they're called. Yeah Oh Java Apple is the other name for it jive ass Apple I think they're called, yeah. Oh, Java Apple is the other name for it. Jive ass apple? Jive ass apple, Java, like. Oh, oh, oh, what the fuck is this?
Starting point is 00:20:29 Shit looks like a pepper. Yeah, it was crazy. It honestly wasn't that good, but the only other time I'd had them was in Taiwan, and I was like, yeah, crazy. Yeah. But I also, I got a cherimoya the other day that, a cherimoya for anyone not basically in Los Angeles or Mexico,
Starting point is 00:20:48 right? Parts of maybe further down in Central America because it's like, it's the fragilist fruit I've ever like, it's basically like if a pear was made out of like, pudding. Yeah. Yeah. Right. And like to the point where I picked it up in the market, my fingers went straight up through it. And I was still like, I'll buy this one. And also, and I think I might have gone to the wrong place. It was like $26. Oh shit.
Starting point is 00:21:15 But it was so right. I wish it was literally like a, this place in Chinatown, that's a Vietnamese sort of bodega type vibe called My Dung, which has, as far as I know, the best bun mee in LA city. Wow. Oh, shit. Which is splitting a lot of hairs because there's a lot of, I think, to most, as far as I understand,
Starting point is 00:21:40 like, people, you know, a lot of really good Vietnamese food, it just sometimes often is not technically within LA city limits. Right, right, right. Places that people would still call LA certainly Orange County is certainly San Gabriel Valley, that sort of LA. Right, right, right, right. Oh, but if you are bound to what we define as LA city, municipally, that's where I believe that is that is the consensus best place. Did you get wait, you had Vietnamese ice as LA city municipally. That's where I believe that is, that is the consensus. Did you get, wait, you had Vietnamese ice coffee, right? Jack, did you finally get that?
Starting point is 00:22:09 Yeah, yeah, I did. Okay. I was just making sure I couldn't handle it, man. It was like, I took, like, I took about a quarter down and I was just like, I feel like nervous and like bad about it. Yeah, it's real drugs. That shit is. I'm like bad about myself. Yeah. It's real drugs. That shit is drugs. It's real drugs. That was the sales point that they had written on the counter when I got it. It's real drugs, Vietnamese ice coffee.
Starting point is 00:22:33 Yeah. By the way, I was just trying to make the point for people about LA city versus LA county. LA county is 4,084 square miles. Rhode Island is 1,084 square miles. Rhode Island is 1033 square miles. So LA County is four times bigger than Rhode Island. We should have eight senators. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 00:22:56 We should have eight senators. We should have eight senators. Thanks. And I should be one of them. I mean, with that many, with proportional representation, one of, one of us on this pod has a chance. I mean, what's, what's something you think is overrated? Overrated shitting on bad restaurants. It's just like, I was in, this is, I was in San Diego this weekend for this is we after literally four years finally buried my grandma at sea and my racist white uncle we did a leader a two for burial at sea. checking their calendars or just following local SoCal news, they might have put together.
Starting point is 00:23:46 That was also the day a Trump Armada rally was in San Diego Bay. Oh, God. Whoa. So it was the single most fucked up like four hours of family time. Because also my family kind of like, you know, it's that like Taiwanese conservatives, like they were often Republican voters. Some of them got split off because they thought Trump was finally too racist, but they're not not Trump people.
Starting point is 00:24:12 Yeah. Whereas every one of the younger generation obviously is like, this is fucking insane. But we went to an unbelievably racist restaurant. Unbelievably racist. Oh, hell yeah. We went to this place called Bali High. I'm going to say their name with the my full chest. It's a well known Tiki
Starting point is 00:24:32 restaurant Tiki bar. People really like it. They're statuary outside. I'm just gonna for you guys hold it up to the zoom window. It's sort of like if a California raisin was an unbelievably racist Depiction of a I guess savage I believe they supposed to be Polynesian, but it's like full-on bone and nose And it's the statue outside to announce their restaurant welcome Some of you. Yeah. So that was fucking crazy. Obviously the food was insanely bad,
Starting point is 00:25:12 but I have over my time in San Diego, a place that does have good food, but I'll just say my family specifically. I referred to this weekend with my cousins and my sister as our family's eternal quest to find the driest protein in San Diego. We had chicken kebabs, white meat chicken kebabs one day that was unreal. Chicken breast kebabs.
Starting point is 00:25:36 And then had some like... Pumice stone you're eating? It was... It was sort of like a loofah sponge, a little. Yeah, right, right, right. Like before it gets wet. There was a little giveah sponge a little. Yeah, right, right, right. Like before it gets wet. There's a little. Yeah. Yeah, there was like it was a little give, but like just strands of moisture sucking,
Starting point is 00:25:52 like whatever the holy shit. Yeah. But I think over my years going to San Diego, where my dad's family mostly is, I have learned that when you especially when you're in again, there is good food in San Diego I understand that but we are going to places that Republicans go to and You kind of just got a role with it like we went to sushi one time in a fucking strip mall white Pearson sushi place and I Like this is when I first moved to Southern California and I was like, I, a gourmand, was like, you know, oh, is the, is the uni fresh today?
Starting point is 00:26:29 Like what a, blah, blah, blah. And like the thing that you want to get is, you know, a roll that has ideally one to three deep fried ingredients and like 15 sauces on it. Just like do the thing that they do. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And that's the only way to have things. So we were at, again, unbelievably racist restaurant, Bali Hai, and I just was like, yeah, I'm getting fucking coconut shrimp
Starting point is 00:26:55 and like a fucking like burger, even though it's like played as like this, you know, they had like poke and shit. And I was just like, don't get that. No, no, no, no, no. Get the burger that has pineapple on it and just ask for no pineapple on it. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:27:10 Like just do, do the thing that the worst people want. And I was correct. And everyone else in my family was wrong as usual. They're like. And it was good. The bird, the pineapple. It was the burger with grilled shrimp on top of it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:28 It was bad, but it was by far the best thing that we got by a million miles. I guess I had a long drive ahead of me, so I didn't indulge in the tiki drinks. It did look like the tiki drinks were incredible, I will say. Yeah, that's probably what really the one thing they do good is the alcohol. Yeah. So you can scream at your whoever you're with blame the racism on the alcohol. Yeah, exactly. What'd you guys put in this thing?
Starting point is 00:28:01 That's what we're all going to be saying the day after the election. Oh man. What'd you guys put in that thing? We elected Trump again? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Well, I know a whole, a whole marina of people that are going to be fucking stoked about that.
Starting point is 00:28:16 So it was very unnerving. It was a Trump armada. So it was like a bunch of Trump supporters on boats. Like I kind of gave up counting, but at one point we were completely surrounded by Trump boats. So, wait, as you're, this was whose, whose ashes were you interning? Both my grandma and your racist white uncle. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:37 Cause we just, my grandma, we know the whole thing, but it was like between COVID and the da da da and just waiting and just hope forever to get the family. Yeah. No, I get that. Yeah. So we, but so yeah, I would estimate, I don't know. What's a 360 view of boats.
Starting point is 00:28:54 Like, yeah. Oh yeah. Judah, this video is, it looks like fucking D-Day or some shit. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It was, I mean, I don't know. I, I probably saw 20, I would say with like, oh, easily there's like, yeah, at least 20 boats even in this. Yeah. Oh, wow. Okay.
Starting point is 00:29:16 We got a winner. We got a winner, folks. That was amazing. Yeah. Well, I'm sorry for your loss with your grandma, but congratulations on the burger. Thank you. You chose wisely. All right. Let's take a quick break and we'll be right back. Daphne Caruana Galizia was a Maltese investigative journalist who on October 16th 2017 was murdered. My name is Manuel de Lilla. I am one of the hosts of Crooks Everywhere, a podcast that
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Starting point is 00:33:14 Vandalism. Vandalism being visited. The terrifying of residents. On the innocent people of Springfield. Yeah. I'm sure the campaign, Trump fans campaign loves this because they would love nothing more than to have the spotlight back on them. Because after brat summer and now it's like something that doesn't have to do with project 2025 or JD Vance like banging a barco lounger.
Starting point is 00:33:40 So they're like, yeah, this is this is where we'd like to fucking get messy and shit. So you know, the story is made up. We know it's all bullshit. But we have even more evidence that the campaign gives absolutely zero fucks about the truth as long as they can perpetuate the immigrants are the reason you have nothing narrative rather than you know, the look around and educate ourselves. So JD Vance again, like you said, first posted about this petty pet eating nonsense before the debate. Then when people called him out, it
Starting point is 00:34:09 seems like a staffer called Springfield city manager, this guy Brian heck the day before the debate to find out if there's any truth to this. This is in I think the New Republic or this might also I think it's New Republic that's probably quoting the Wall Street Journal but says heck told the staffer that there was quote, no verifiable evidence or reports and that the quote claims were baseless. And in an attempt to back up the rumor,
Starting point is 00:34:34 Vance's campaign provided a police report to the journal in which a Springfield resident, Anna Kilgore, said that her cat was possibly taken by her Haitian neighbors. When a reporter went to the woman's home last week, she said her cat came home only two days after she reported it missing and it was found safe in her basement. And it got to the point where she said, she actually apologized to her neighbor. She said, with the help of a translation app and her younger daughter. And she was like, I fucked that up. So we have the person who's like, I'm not racist with my racist Facebook post, walked
Starting point is 00:35:02 it back. The woman who said, maybe think if I fuck that up. So we have the person who's like, I'm not racist with my racist Facebook post, walked it back. The woman who said maybe someone took my cat is like, it was in my basement. And now the town has been turned completely upside down and, you know, residents are growing in increased fear of just the right wing outrage mobs. And just like the amount of fucking conservative stooges that are like there now on the ground to try and find shit and drum up any kind of fucking evidence that would help sort of
Starting point is 00:35:32 back this just xenophobic claim but yeah the thing is like these Haitian like people that have relocated to Springfield they're actually helping to revive the city of Springfield like you know the Springfield was one of those towns that it was a huge manufacturing hub. And there was some stat like some inordinate amount of like farming equipment was like manufactured in Springfield, like in the, in like the sixties. And then it obviously began to go less and less and less. But now with this like influx of like available labor,
Starting point is 00:36:00 like companies are coming back and like people are like, oh shit, like there's actually like, we have the ability to kind of get jobs now. And that's, and most people there are saying, yeah, this is actually a good thing. The mayor of Springfield is like, I'd rather not Trump visit. He's like, I'm going to go to Springfield to be there to speak to the people. And even the Republican mayor is like, yeah, no, no, no, we're good. We're good. We're good.
Starting point is 00:36:21 It's just going to eat up resources. We already are stretched thin and you don't pay for anything. So fucking please don't even fucking think about coming here. Because of all the bomb threats that you caused. Yeah, right. I don't even know if this is a... Maybe this was just a headline, but I saw it was like, Republican mayor won't commit... Springfield's Republican mayor won't commit to supporting Trump.
Starting point is 00:36:41 And it's like, what does it fucking take with these people? Like, you guys evil and actively trying to destroy your town and you're still like, can't fully commit. Undecided, undecided, undecided. That's the most powerful person on earth. Where he's like, because the mayor too is like defending his own town and he's like, this is a really terrible way to talk about immigration
Starting point is 00:37:00 that's really helped our town. And it's like, okay, so you're on the side, you're not on his side. Sounds like you are diametrically opposed on this issue. Okay, now what do you think about him? I can't really. Who can say? You know what? I actually do think they're all coming from Haitia.
Starting point is 00:37:18 That's the problem. That literally said yesterday. Yeah. I will just say also though, the thing that I don't know what fucking internal polling or triangulation the fucking Harris campaign is doing, but the fact that they haven't just been out every day like, this is racist, fuck these people, is unbelievably troubling. Yeah. Like, what is holding them up?
Starting point is 00:37:48 I think- Yeah. Making the arguments about immigration, this being one of the signs of the power of immigration. Immigration is not a scary thing, it's a great thing. Mike DeWine, who is a Republican, very popular Republican governor of Ohio, came out and was saying that these Haitians came in to work for these companies. What the companies tell us is that they are very good workers.
Starting point is 00:38:17 They're very happy to have them there, and frankly, that's helped the economy. It feels like this is a layup, and just sitting back and being like, talk about weird, like that seems to be the extent to which they've engaged with it. Well, yeah. And I think with on immigration too, I don't think she really wants to, again, because like her position on immigration is the same thing as like
Starting point is 00:38:40 what the Biden administration was wishing for, like that very, very conservative immigration bill. Again, so they had some kind of defense against attacks on their stance on immigration come the election. But most people are like, this isn't good at all. This isn't progressive in any way. This is regressive. I know when she met with
Starting point is 00:39:03 the National Association of Black Journalists, and then there was like, I think she said, it she met with the, you know, National Association of Black Journalists, and then there was like, I think it's a, I think she said it's like crying shame, like what he said, but that's, you know, very boilerplate kind of like, yeah, I'm against it. But at the same time, I think because like, you know, with immigration, it's like, what happened to our pathways to citizenship?
Starting point is 00:39:19 Like what's going on there? It's just a lot of like, I don't, they're just don't want to talk too much about these issues to try and prevent, you know, from, I guess, their, their point of view, like losing independent supporters or whatever. When we always know tacking to the middle or to the right is not the solution. The dumbest right wing dickheads on earth is who they want the votes from. It sucks.
Starting point is 00:39:45 But how do we reach them, Andrew? How do we get to them? It's so awful. Yeah. I mean, it's the thing we know is that her campaign is being run by the same people who were running the Biden campaign. And the way the Biden campaign operated was this like very defensive strategy of being like, no, he's not old actually, you're old for saying that and he's the best
Starting point is 00:40:12 candidate that we could be running. And so they're going to be like careful and defensive and it's, I don't know. Like there's probably because her polling is her polling is ticking slightly upward, it's probably not a time when she's going to be like, yeah, I need to clean house. This fucking team sucks. Right. Or come out with some sweeping position on immigration, which just fucking sucks because you're like, what are you giving us?
Starting point is 00:40:41 And I think, again, they're like, the fucking the noodle is the noodle the needle is moving in the right direction well we just shut the fuck up right just fucking keep shutting the fuck up and you know I don't I don't know how sustainable that is as a strategy but for the time being it seems to be working but it's also like why are you fucking running for president if you can't do the easiest layup right thing? Like which I know is the most naive thing I could possibly say. But seriously, what the fuck are you doing? Right. Yeah, like why are you doing this then? right
Starting point is 00:41:16 Safe i'm like just trying to see There isn't even really anything under the harris walls campaign website under issues. I don't even see anything for immigration. Yeah, dude. I'm like, what's what? What is there for all these people who are also voters who have like immigration is a huge thing that intersects with their families and their livelihoods and it's just like, you know, check, check back later. But also they have reality on their side.
Starting point is 00:41:42 It's yeah, it's like, this is good. This was good for Springfield. Oh, here it is. Secure our borders and fix our broken immigration system. Yeah. Secure our borders is just like just hair raising. And I think that's where you're like, yeah. I know that no Democrat has ever wanted my vote, but it is really weird how little they wanted this time
Starting point is 00:42:07 and last time, I guess, and the time before that. Yeah. The point is. And the time before that and the time before that. But it's like the other side so bad on it that like their calculations, the other side is so bad on it that like your hand is kind of forced. So what do we have to say about immigration when, like just look at what these assholes just said.
Starting point is 00:42:27 Cause even like when they're calculus and how they, and the campaign even talks about immigration. It's like, you know, it's like, oh, you know, as attorney general Harris went after international drug gangs, human traffickers, gun smuggled. It's like, what about fucking human beings? Like what, like where, Where's that dimension about talking about immigration that is a little more human centric? But again,
Starting point is 00:42:49 this is just sort of like the accepted rhetoric right now for both parties. So they're just they're fine with being like, we got to fix we got it. You're right. We do have to secure our border. Yeah. Yeah. God. Oh, here's one at the same time. At the same time, she knows that our immigration system is broken and needs comprehensive reform that includes stronger border security and an earned pathway to citizenship Okay, take you take that I sit corrected Earn this fucking back draft we back on the firefightership. Oh
Starting point is 00:43:20 We know that's saving private private right? Yeah. Yeah. Come on, man. Don't you know you're yeah No, no fucking hey, how old are you man? Oh, you're saying you're a 40. I thought you said you were 40 man I'm quoting I'm mistaking it an older movie. I'm like that's back draft right the even older All right, let's let's do some good news. Hey, yeah. Yeah. Oh, fine. Oh, fine.
Starting point is 00:43:50 Fatal drug overdoses have dropped across the U S for the first time in decades. Uh, in the spring, it was reported that overdose deaths were down by nearly 4%. Uh, which is super newsworthy in and of itself, but now national surveys are showing a decline in drug deaths of roughly 10.6%, which every year prior to this, it's been going up year over year by double digits. So that's pretty remarkable. It's a reversal of a very troubling trend. The data coming from the state level is even better
Starting point is 00:44:27 with some states reporting declines of 20 and 30%. People don't have like an exact explanation for why this is happening, but one possible explanation is the availability of naloxone, which is the drug that can reverse opioid overdoses. And people have really hit the streets trying to get that out there in people's hands, distributed around so that people can take care of each other if something catastrophic happens.
Starting point is 00:44:55 For a moment, I thought maybe the despair deaths that we seem to see in this country was going down. It's more like, no, we just found a way. Like it's Narcan that's working. The spare is still here, big time. Yeah, I mean, that's great. It's wild to even just think it's like, just having Narcan more available to people is like offsetting these like tragic overdoses. Yeah, if I could put in a small personal-ish plug,
Starting point is 00:45:22 Solidarity and Snacks, the mutual aid group I do stuff with in Skid Row on Saturdays at noon. That's one of the things is I had to really quickly learn how to tell a random person basically what Narcan does. It's really like, oof. Oh, right, so yeah, just yeah, I mean education is. Yeah, it's really, it's not super super hard to use but it is like, you know And it's also like sometimes just communicating. This is not a inhaler. This is different, right? Right, right
Starting point is 00:45:54 We're just like yikes. Is it the nose? Is it the one that goes up the nose? Yes Yeah. Yeah is there like I Not to be cynical, but I kind of was curious whether there's any data on just the fentanyl news, like the fentanyl marketing essentially really like took a dent out of Coke. Like anyone who was on the fence about doing Coke didn't do Coke in the last five years. Yeah, for sure.
Starting point is 00:46:24 Fentanyl, yeah. What do you mean? Like, and what's what do you mean the market? I'm just saying, like, I just feel like the bad PR for fentanyl, I feel like really people dying immediately from casual users, who are probably I would ask, I would just imagine are the most likely to overdose because they don't know what the fuck they're doing. By the way, I'm saying this like I know what I'm doing, I also don't know what I'm doing. You're not Theo Von right now.
Starting point is 00:46:52 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Aw man, you'll be out. Just rubbed like fucking Al, man. Fucking Al, homie. Beer on the street light. And that's good. But you know what I mean? I'm just like, I don't know,
Starting point is 00:47:01 this just feels like it coincides with all the news headlines being, if you do cocaine, you will. Oh, like generally to their people, right. That like the fentanyl, because then there's also just like the cops were like, I looked at fentanyl and died and then I was brought back by Christ or Trump. You pick. Yeah. Like that. I'm sure it does.
Starting point is 00:47:20 Definitely like, yeah, if people are pumping the brakes, but yeah, if you look, yeah, that's an interesting way to think about it. If there's corporate headquarters of cocaine, they're probably like, this is really bad for us. They're having marketing meetings about how bad people dying from just random fentanyl intoxication. And then the one guy's like, maybe this is a good thing for us. Maybe we can spin this.
Starting point is 00:47:52 Marketing dudes are always like, but what if it's actually good, but if it's new Coke, right, they might crystal fentanyl. Yeah. All right. Let's take a quick break and we'll be right back. Daphne Caruana Galizia was a Maltese investigative journalist who on October 16th, 2017 was murdered. There are crooks everywhere you look now. The situation is desperate. My name is Manuel de Lilla. I am one of the hosts of Crooks Everywhere, a podcast that unearths the plot to murder a one-woman WikiLeaks.
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Starting point is 00:51:27 So I think everything's just gone quiet a little bit. But New York Magazine just did a quick article that I thought made an interesting point, which is the way the meaning of the word or the phrase AI is changing, like has to be so bad. Again, like thinking of the corporate headquarters of AI. Yeah. Just sitting there.
Starting point is 00:51:50 Yeah. And being like, holy shit, this is, this couldn't have gone any worse for us. So I guess this, this part was news to me. It's still at the forefront of tech investment and excitement in Silicon Valley, Sam Altman is still just as confident and egomaniacal to the degree that somebody said, hey, when are we getting the new voice features in a post on earlier last week? And he responded, how about a couple weeks of gratitude
Starting point is 00:52:21 for magic intelligence in the sky, and then you can have more toys soon? Get the fuck out of here. So he's just like, yeah. Why don't you watch the way you talk to your god, sir? Holy shit. This is the guy again who claimed he's so spooked by his own AI that he keeps a suicide capsule on him at all times,
Starting point is 00:52:42 even though he presumably knows that his own AI is just a glorified auto-complete. It's marketing, baby. It's marketing, baby. Yeah. He's good at marketing. One thing they can't really control, obviously they can control how it's viewed by them and their peers, but the general public, like how the Internet at large uses and reacts to AI, seems to be a little bit more out of their control.
Starting point is 00:53:07 The point this article is making is just that there seems to be a drift happening that is similar to how the meaning of the word bot changed. At the advent of computing, the idea of creating a robot that could carry on a conversation and answer questions was seen as like cool and compelling and aspirational. And you know, a lot of sci-fi writers talked and thought about that. And then it was shitty cheap versions of that were used to just clog the internet with bullshit. And from basically 2007 onward, it's been used as shorthand for like a mindless broken communication tool that like just spews lifeless bullshit. Like that's what a bot is. And you can also insult someone by being like calling them a bot as like,
Starting point is 00:54:02 you know, indistinguishable from the aforementioned just soulless bullshit spewing machine. But is that is that like a shift or is that like a regression from the marketing to the reality? Because that the second the thing they are now is what they always were. Yeah, so that's the other thing. So I just think that this is basically what is happening with AI and AI also is fairly similar to what the bots were already, right? It's like a broken auto complete thing that can sometimes trick people, but for the most part it's like a thing that can be fun to play with, but is not able to do the things that people want it to.
Starting point is 00:54:44 And a lot of these companies went and like jammed their product into a bunch of tools before it was ready to be used. And now it's essentially synonymous with things that suck. Like that is essentially how people refer to AI at this point. It's just a word for a, a image that looks like shit or an article that seems to be written by someone who would have to sleep. Yeah. 6.8 weeks.
Starting point is 00:55:16 Who was being revived by Narcan. Yeah. It almost has a more accelerated life cycle than the term bot did. Yeah, exactly. Because I felt like a year and a half ago, we were like, yo, what the fuck is with AI? And now it's like, and now you're like, this is some AI bullshit. This is what we say, like all the time. There's just you just see things that you're like, oh, this is just shitty AI, like a shitty AI image.
Starting point is 00:55:40 And yet to that point, the association with it is like, now you're like critical. Like when you see someone using AI, you're like, that person's a fucking herd. Like, yeah, fuck, this is stupid. That art that they were like posting up, that's stupid. It's bullshit. And yeah, so definitely. And from that point of view, it's they're having a little bit of a problem with the with the branding, for sure. Yeah, I just don't know how you come back from it, right? Like when because so a couple of examples they use that they're like,
Starting point is 00:56:08 we're not entirely sure this is AI at all. This might just be bad art. Like the cover of the Atlantic magazine has Donald Trump like driving a horse drawn carriage with an elephant in the back. It's like supposed to, I think it like has some Dumbo vibes to it. He's captured the party, dude. It's locked up in a cage. Oh shit.
Starting point is 00:56:30 That's what it means. Okay. Got it. Yeah. No, that's deep. Um, and then, uh, it's like, it's not that there's also this tweet from, uh, someone named John Iceman who said, I'm obsessed with this obviously AI printout. My local bodega hung up to say they don't have a bathroom.
Starting point is 00:56:48 And it says, it's like a political cartoon with a line of people walking up to a door and it says no restroom for anyone. For Ione. For I-O-one. Yeah. But like bad political cartoons and like misspellings have been around forever. There's nothing at all for me to indicate that the people who own this bodega were using chat GPT to generate this bullshit image.
Starting point is 00:57:19 It's just like you could probably find that with a simple Google search. But we've just crossed a line where it is assumed that all bad art is AI generated even when it's not. And that, I feel like that's just gotta be a tough trend to bounce back from, like from a marketing perspective. When it's like, oh yeah, AI is just a word for something that sucks. Well, and I think the impressive part is just like, whoa, look what it did. It's like the impressive part is you didn't have to pay anyone for it to generate something you normally would. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:57:51 So like what, so at that point I'm like, I don't know what they do that suddenly people are like, oh my God, like we really, we really had it wrong with AI. I think that's why, I mean, having skimmed like a little bit of the like computer science research of it, it's as far as I understand, it's just like, it's, it's at a high level of complexity now, but each additional like level of complexity starts to become like logarithmically more difficult. So we're already maxing out energy usage, we need to, like just to maintain this shit that is bad, we have to like revamp the power grid, and like, figure out different more efficient computer chips and silicon, like, we would have like, it's just like, the shit that has to happen for this to be good
Starting point is 00:58:47 is not, it's like fundamentally rethinking computing, energy. Like, and by the way... The physical infrastructure of human society. If you solved those problems, even without this, you know, fake-ass AI, like like life would be immeasurably better because we made batteries that were a thousand times more like, like efficient or like chips that are like, you know, Moore's law violating more like cheap and computations per second. So it's like, yeah, all this shit otherwise that didn't and maybe can't happen hasn't happened yet
Starting point is 00:59:25 So none of this is gonna work right the irony is like people who have been you know advocates for green energy are saying It's not that the green energy isn't available or the technology is not there We don't have a fucking transmission grid to have the property and efficiently move all of this green energy We can generate that's one of the biggest fucking hangups. And the irony would be like, yeah, we're modernizing the grid for fucking AI. It's like, wait, what the fuck? Well, yeah, because the, like this is, and this is the thing you're seeing in business literature and like Wall Street literature right now is there's this
Starting point is 01:00:00 built in assumption, like we need to rebuild everything. Like we need this to completely rethink like how much electricity we have access to and how much electricity we're using. Like that's what Trump was trying to talk about in that interview with Elon Musk when he was like nuclear power, very dangerous. And then Elon Musk was like, we actually need nuclear power for like AI to continue to like be powered. And so I, I think there's going to be a moment or maybe not a moment, but like, I think that's what we're going to be facing is like, they are going to be just
Starting point is 01:00:37 trying to build in this assumption, like, well, we need to like continue developing AI, so therefore fuck climate. Like that. It really does seem like a lot of the AI stuff has coincided with the assumption changing from, well, we're gonna have to do something about climate to... Maybe not. They won't do anything to... The thing with all these tech people about climate,
Starting point is 01:01:04 because they're assertion like AI might solve climate change for us. And it's like, that might be a compelling argument. But it's also like, a version where we know what we have to stop doing. It's like, well, it might come up with an easier version. Yeah, like, I don't know, we also haven't ever implemented the other shit like using less fossil fuels. We've never done that. They will do anything and promise any technology to avoid doing the thing that is proven to work.
Starting point is 01:01:37 It's just low tech and would hurt the oil industry. It's so pathetic, all these tech, I just hate them so much. Well, yeah, they destroy the globe to power AI to get an answer to have for an answer to the question of how to fix climate change. And then the answer is like, stop using fossil fuels. Yeah, fuck.
Starting point is 01:01:59 They're like forcing us into a Hail Mary that is so unnecessary. Yeah, exactly. For humanity. They're like forcing us into a Hail Mary that is so unnecessary. Yeah. Like for humanity. It's like, okay, well, we didn't have to do any of this, but I guess it's too late to not. I don't know. Maybe the unintended consequence is if we can fucking get a good power grid and like,
Starting point is 01:02:19 I don't know, solar or nuclear that works. Nuclear does work. But yeah, I mean, it's truly it's like the transmission grid. Like it's not like we don't have vast swaths of land that are getting absolutely cooked by the sun every fucking day. Like with maybe like anomalous couple days or it isn't. But like with the right storage and transmission stuff, like you can fucking power such a significant amount of the country with a comparatively small amount of land. But again, it's just it that's that is too disruptive to like
Starting point is 01:02:53 the sort of fossil fuel status quo that we're in. It's just like, well, maybe fucking AI will can invent a thing that will be a shield for our earth. That's like, yeah, how can AI AI, dear AI? Can you how can we find a way to like not totally cook the planet while not losing any value for the worst people? Yeah. Or it'd be like, I remember like trying to fucking like, like, like cheat on a test or some shit. And I will put all this thought into being like, yo, if I could just
Starting point is 01:03:24 steal this from the teacher and then if you distract them and you fake having a medical event while their head is turned, I can do a fucking low key picture. Like the end of Ocean's 11 with your 10 of your friends like walking, like carrying briefcases, dropping it, like handing it to each other without stopping or looking at each other. Right. Exactly. Like it's like, what if you just read the chapter of the book? The. I don't know. Right. Exactly. Like, what if you just read the chapter of the book? The human ingenuity.
Starting point is 01:03:47 I don't know. Very good student. Incredibly smart, Miles. I'd rather put I'm Chad. No, I think I don't want to do that. And I know that's the answer. But what if my friend faked an epileptic seizure? Yeah. No, no, no. But you just like put a little alka cell in his mouth. Yeah, no, it's too obvious too obvious, dude Yeah, it's like the tech bros are doing this but forcing us to be in on their scheme
Starting point is 01:04:12 Yeah, exactly right. This is like if you held the rest of your classic gun point is like no, we're all doing this Hey, shut the fuck up. I don't care if you can I don't care. I don't care if you read nectar in the sieve All right, I ain't it. Yeah. Yeah. It's a. I had something to say and then it left my brain, but it's OK. And yeah, you want to ask, yeah, what was Jack about to say? No. All right. Well, those are some of the stories that are happening today.
Starting point is 01:04:44 Andrew T, what a pleasure having you as always. Where can people find you, follow you, all that good stuff? I am, yeah, podcast, Yo Is This Racist, Andrew T, Lesson Misspelled T, I, that's it. I don't know. Listen, we got bonus podcasts at suboptimalpods.com. I've been doing a lot more gambling than I should do on a podcast, but Wait, what do you mean? Like just taking weird bets on just no We're doing a bonus podcast with me versus Jessica Gao called the Goumbler Where she was of the impression that I don't want to misquote her but I am going to that
Starting point is 01:05:23 Poker was entirely a game of chance and I was like, I mean, it's not so we're doing a head to head $100 bankroll challenge I'm playing quarter poker at an unmentioned site. Maybe I'm not in the state of California doesn't matter. And she is playing scratcher scratch off tickets and we seeing who's going to win in this head to head gambling challenge. So we're gambling on top of gambling. Okay. Gamble on gamble on gamble. It's going well. Sounds fun. Is there a work of media that you've been enjoying? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:58 I watched a movie called Lady Snowblood. It was like a revival at the Alamo here in Los Angeles. And it's sort of like, it was very clear. People had said it was sort of one of the like, I guess, like it's a Japanese feudal Japan story that was sort of one of the inspirations for Kill Bill. And it's a lot of like very hilarious like I guess it's probably like you know 60s 70s Japanese special effects most importantly the like single slash with a sword and just like a fire hose of blood.
Starting point is 01:06:38 Oh wow. Like from like Sanjuro. Yeah it's I had honestly I guess I don't know that not like enough about Japanese cinema, but it was like, oh, I assume that was like an anime thing and seeing it live. No, it's from Sanjuro and that's it. It was a mechanical failure. Yeah, that. Oh, OK.
Starting point is 01:06:57 Yeah, like it was supposed to do a little bit, but that shit just went and then Kurosawa was like, keep that shit. Yeah. And then so that was Sala was like, keep that shit. Yeah. And then so that was a ship. Yeah. Anyway, yeah, Lady Silver. I don't know where you can see it. Probably find it on streaming somewhere.
Starting point is 01:07:16 It was amazing. That sounds good. Miles, where can people find you? Is there work media you've been enjoying? Find me on Twitter and Instagram and the like at miles of gray. Find Jack and I on the basketball podcast. Miles and Jack, I'm at boosties. You can find me talking 90 day fiance on 420 day fiance. I have a few. First of all, did you see that clip
Starting point is 01:07:35 that was going around of like the celebrity jeopardy when Winona Ryder was Bjork? It was like all over Twitter the other day. No, I saw it, but I didn't stop to watch. I, I don't know how the, this is like in my top three of like Bjork anythings. And I love Bjork. This is, it says therapist.
Starting point is 01:07:52 Winona Ryder was as Bjork isn't real, she can't hurt you. And then it says Winona Ryder is Bjork. I'm just gonna play a quick piece of this because this is fantastic acting from Winona Ryder. Sometimes when I look at my veins in my hands, they remind me of these two snakes that laugh. She goes on like a minute long. Her commitment is so fucking next level and that's what it takes to do a proper Bjork impersonation Another one is from at elite underscore GZ tweeted you ever see a tweet so fire It breaks the language barrier, and it's a quote tweet from at frana Smugoria that said la mayonesa es la reverb de los sandwiches
Starting point is 01:08:44 sandwiches and I'm like, yup, yup. That's right. Facts. I don't, I don't know exactly what happened. Those are facts. It is the rebirth of this. All right. Uh, you can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien.
Starting point is 01:09:03 Uh, what are some tweets I've been enjoying? Uh, I've just been enjoying a lot of the, a lot of people, you know, dealing with the news about Adrian Wojnarowski, the Woj from ESPN leaving ESPN to go be the general manager of St. Bonaventure's basketball program. And yeah, I don't, I don't know what to do with that information. Yeah. I mean, suggest maybe like ESn should treat their on-air people better I don't have any reason to suspect that's what it is. But I know more like a national icon And he just left to be the general manager of st. Bonaventure's
Starting point is 01:09:42 But I mean maybe it's just like his. His job's got to be hard. Yeah, yeah. But the Woj Bomb is such a vital part of the NBA Twitter information sphere that I guess shams, shams. It's up to you now. Craigery Smith tweeted, Adrian Wojnarowski got woken up in the middle of the night to be told Isaac O'Currow was signing a threeyear thirty eight million dollar deal to return to the Cavs and immediately reevaluated his life because that was his last work bomb.
Starting point is 01:10:12 It was like a very unimportant NBA deal. And then I also like this from Big Honkin Caboose who wrote, take me down to the Roku city where the grass is purple and everything is also purple. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, dailyzeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes. We'll link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode, as well as a song that we think you might enjoy. Miles, is there a song that you think people might enjoy? Yeah, I, you know, a lot of people who heard Andre 3000's flute album were like, where's
Starting point is 01:10:54 the beat? Like, how do I vibe with this? And it was very avant-garde. Well, you know, very, very, very iconic. Angelino and sax player, Kamasi Washington. Has, there's actually an Andre 3000 feature on his album that came out earlier this year and I was listening to it.
Starting point is 01:11:12 It's called Dream State. So if you want a little bit of Andre 3000 on a jazzier track, you can get that on this Kamasi Washington track called Dream State. So enjoy that. A bit of nice jazz. It's like a long track too. So it's nice to just put on while you're doing something. So yeah, Dream State by Komazi Washington featuring Andre 3000. All right, we will link off to that in the footnote for daily zeitgeist is a production of iHeartRadio for more podcasts from iHeartRadio. Visit the iHeartRadio app Apple podcaster wherever you listen to your favorite shows that's going to do it for us this morning back this afternoon to tell you what is trending and we will talk to y'all then. Bye. Bye.
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